New Fleetwood Mac box set 1969-1974

[BLY]

Fleetwood Mac’s early rise to fame takes centerstage on two upcoming Rhino releases that spotlight the group’s deep-blues roots.

On September 4, FLEETWOOD MAC 1969-1974 will be available as an 8 CD boxed set that includes remastered versions of all seven studio albums the band recorded between 1969 and 1974, several bonus tracks, and an unreleased 1974 concert recorded just a few months before Lindsey Buckingham and Stevie Nicks joined the band. The set covers a five-year span that encompasses several different band lineups, from founding members Fleetwood, Green, McVie and Spencer, to later additions like Danny Kirwan, Christine McVie, Dave Walker, Bob Welch, and Bob Weston.

FLEETWOOD MAC 1973-1974, also available on September 4, includes the unreleased 1974 live album, along with ‘Penguin’ (1973), ‘Mystery To Me’ (1973), and ‘Heroes Are Hard To Find’ (1974).
All the albums are pressed on 140-gram vinyl and presented in replica sleeves made to look like the original pressings. The set also includes a 7” single with “For Your Love” (Mono Promo Edit) on one side, and the previously unreleased “Good Things (Come To Those Who Wait)” on the flipside. A limited edition, colored-vinyl edition of FLEETWOOD MAC 1973-1974 will be available exclusively from www.rhino.com. The studio albums, live recording, and 7” single will each be pressed on a different colored vinyl: ‘Penguin’ (yellow), ‘Mystery To Me’ (orange), ‘Heroes Are Hard To Find’ (gold), ‘Live from the Record Plan 12-15-74’ (white), and 7” (blue).

Preorder yours now:
8CD: https://lnk.to/FM6974
4LP/7”: https://lnk.to/FM7374

[jbrownsjr]

Miracle upon Miracles!

[BLY]

Miracle upon Miracles!


I’m thrilled for this. I already placed my order for the 8 CD set. I Can’t Wait!

[SteveMacD]

Sweet Baby Jesus!!!

This was my second biggest wish, just after Christine coming back.

The only way it could have been better is if they had gone with the more recent deluxe version of “Then Play On,” with the original track listing, but I just ordered one of those.

[Mr Scarrott]

And Purple Dancer appears as a bonus track on Kiln House...:)

Good Things is also a bonus on the MTM CD, which is a relief...I've never heard of "Stone" a bonus on Future Games, though...

[soul_drifter333]

This is pretty exciting and these desperately needed remastering. The Live Album sounds interesting. It was done right at the time Bob left. Has this been shared before as a bootleg? Was it done as promotion since it was done at the Record Plant? Hopefully there is a book or good liner notes.

[Mr Scarrott]

this is the live Record Plant broadcast, from two weeks before you-know-who joined...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5VI6w-NcO0

[SteveMacD]

This is pretty exciting and these desperately needed remastering. The Live Album sounds interesting. It was done right at the time Bob left. Has this been shared before as a bootleg? Was it done as promotion since it was done at the Record Plant? Hopefully there is a book or good liner notes.

It’s been widely circulated over the decades. However, it might be much better sound quality.

Here’s a link for the whole show.

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[jbrownsjr]

I’m thrilled for this. I already placed my order for the 8 CD set. I Can’t Wait!

I've been so sick of post McVie/Welch/Kirwan/Green era.

Plus, I've already been listening to these albums already. (And a little bit of the 1975 White album Deluxe concerts which has a few of these tunes.)

[BLY]

I've been so sick of post McVie/Welch/Kirwan/Green era.

Plus, I've already been listening to these albums already. (And a little bit of the 1975 White album Deluxe concerts which has a few of these tunes.)


I have also been listening to a lot of pre 1975 recently. I plan to listen to the entire box sets of the 5 post 1974 MAC because it’s been a while but I’m really looking forward to this box set. I hope the packaging is decent.

[aleuzzi]

HONK MY HOOTER!!!! I’m totally getting this!!!!!!!

[aleuzzi]

My only wish is that “Start Again”—the original (and to my way of thinking far superior) version of “Morning Rain”—was included.

Also, I’m not sure most of the music is remastered. It appears only the items that have already been remastered from previous reissues (THEN PLAY ON and several singles from the DON’T STOP compilation). But hopefully I’m wrong and the songs are remastered. Also curious about “Stone.”

[jbrownsjr]

My only wish is that “Start Again”—the original (and to my way of thinking far superior) version of “Morning Rain”—was included.

Also, I’m not sure most of the music is remastered. It appears only the items that have already been remastered from previous reissues (THEN PLAY ON and several singles from the DON’T STOP compilation). But hopefully I’m wrong and the songs are remastered. Also curious about “Stone.”

The Rhino Site leads me to believe everything is re-mastered.

[Murrow]

The real holy grail in this box is Stone, a previously unissued track on the Future Games disc.

Also of note:

Five out of the eight Future Games tracks appear in alternate forms here.

Penguin has no bonus tracks.

The Purple Dancer is finally out of the wilderness.

[Straightback]

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https://www.superdeluxeedition.com/news/fleetwood-mac-1969-to-1974/#more-159948

[aleuzzi]

The Rhino Site leads me to believe everything is re-mastered.

I just saw that. Awesome!

[GJK]

I bet the release will be postponed a few times but this makes me very happy and impatient. 'The purple dancer' has been my favourite FM song since 1979 and FINALLY it is going to be released on CD!!!

Track Listing

Then Play On (1969):
Coming Your Way
Closing My Eyes
Show-Biz Blues
My Dream
Underway
Oh Well
Although The Sun Is Shining
Rattlesnake Shake
Searching For Madge
Fighting For Madge
When You Say
Like Crying
Before The Beginning

Bonus Tracks
Oh Well Pts I & II
The Green Manalishi (With The Two Prong Crown)
World In Harmony

Kiln House (1970):
This Is The Rock
Station Man
Blood On The Floor
Hi Ho Silver
Jewel Eyed Judy
Buddy’s Song
Earl Gray
One Together
Tell Me All The Things You Do
Mission Bell

Bonus Tracks
Dragonfly
Purple Dancer
Jewel Eyed Judy (Single Version)
Station Man (Single Version)

Future Games (1971):
Woman Of 1000 Years
Morning Rain
What A Shame
Future Games
Sands Of Time
Sometimes
Lay It All Down
Show Me A Smile

Bonus Tracks
Sands Of Time (Single Version)
Sometimes (Alt. Version)
Lay It All Down (Alt. Version)
Stone
Show Me A Smile (Alt. Version)
What A Shame (Unedited)

Bare Trees (1972):
Child Of Mine
The Ghost
Homeward Bound
Sunny Side Of Heaven
Bare Trees
Sentimental Lady
Danny’s Chant
Spare Me A Little Of Your Love
Dust
Thoughts On A Grey Day

Bonus Tracks
Trinity
Sentimental Lady (Single Version)

Penguin (1973):
Remember Me
Bright Fire
Dissatisfied
(I’m A) Road Runner
The Derelict
Revelation
Did You Ever Love Me
Night Watch
Caught In The Rain

Mystery To Me (1973):
Emerald Eyes
Believe Me
Just Crazy Love
Hypnotized
Forever
Keep On Going
The City
Miles Away
Somebody
The Way I Feel
For Your Love
Why

Bonus Tracks
For Your Love (Mono Promo Edit)
Good Things (Come To Those Who Wait)

Heroes Are Hard To Find (1974):
Heroes Are Hard To Find
Coming Home
Angel
Bermuda Triangle
Come A Little Bit Closer
She’s Changing Me
Bad Loser
Silver Heels
Prove Your Love
Born Enchanter
Safe Harbour
Bonus Tracks
Heroes Are Hard To Find (Single Version)

Live From The Record Plant (12-15-74):
Green Manalishi (With The Two Prong Crown)
Angel
Spare Me A Little Of Your Love
Sentimental Lady
Future Games
Bermuda Triangle
Why
Believe Me
Black Magic Woman/Oh Well
Rattlesnake Shake
Hypnotized

[Neb-Maat-Re]

Released the day after my birthday, too!

How wonderful.

[LesPaul7]

I hope they got the track listing of Then Play On wrong on that list.

[Murrow]

I hope they got the track listing of Then Play On wrong on that list.

The Then Play On disc can go in the recycling bin for most of us either way since (a) a lot of us have already got it and (b) if Amazon UK is anything to go by, the set's selling at pretty much the price of a four disc set anyway.

[BLY]

I bet the release will be postponed a few times but this makes me very happy and impatient. 'The purple dancer' has been my favourite FM song since 1979 and FINALLY it is going to be released on CD!!!

Track Listing

Then Play On (1969):
Coming Your Way
Closing My Eyes
Show-Biz Blues
My Dream
Underway
Oh Well
Although The Sun Is Shining
Rattlesnake Shake
Searching For Madge
Fighting For Madge
When You Say
Like Crying
Before The Beginning

Bonus Tracks
Oh Well Pts I & II
The Green Manalishi (With The Two Prong Crown)
World In Harmony

Kiln House (1970):
This Is The Rock
Station Man
Blood On The Floor
Hi Ho Silver
Jewel Eyed Judy
Buddy’s Song
Earl Gray
One Together
Tell Me All The Things You Do
Mission Bell

Bonus Tracks
Dragonfly
Purple Dancer
Jewel Eyed Judy (Single Version)
Station Man (Single Version)

Future Games (1971):
Woman Of 1000 Years
Morning Rain
What A Shame
Future Games
Sands Of Time
Sometimes
Lay It All Down
Show Me A Smile

Bonus Tracks
Sands Of Time (Single Version)
Sometimes (Alt. Version)
Lay It All Down (Alt. Version)
Stone
Show Me A Smile (Alt. Version)
What A Shame (Unedited)

Bare Trees (1972):
Child Of Mine
The Ghost
Homeward Bound
Sunny Side Of Heaven
Bare Trees
Sentimental Lady
Danny’s Chant
Spare Me A Little Of Your Love
Dust
Thoughts On A Grey Day

Bonus Tracks
Trinity
Sentimental Lady (Single Version)

Penguin (1973):
Remember Me
Bright Fire
Dissatisfied
(I’m A) Road Runner
The Derelict
Revelation
Did You Ever Love Me
Night Watch
Caught In The Rain

Mystery To Me (1973):
Emerald Eyes
Believe Me
Just Crazy Love
Hypnotized
Forever
Keep On Going
The City
Miles Away
Somebody
The Way I Feel
For Your Love
Why

Bonus Tracks
For Your Love (Mono Promo Edit)
Good Things (Come To Those Who Wait)

Heroes Are Hard To Find (1974):
Heroes Are Hard To Find
Coming Home
Angel
Bermuda Triangle
Come A Little Bit Closer
She’s Changing Me
Bad Loser
Silver Heels
Prove Your Love
Born Enchanter
Safe Harbour
Bonus Tracks
Heroes Are Hard To Find (Single Version)

Live From The Record Plant (12-15-74):
Green Manalishi (With The Two Prong Crown)
Angel
Spare Me A Little Of Your Love
Sentimental Lady
Future Games
Bermuda Triangle
Why
Believe Me
Black Magic Woman/Oh Well
Rattlesnake Shake
Hypnotized


There is no reason for this release to be postponed, it should be released as scheduled.

[jbrownsjr]

There is no reason for this release to be postponed, it should be released as scheduled.

Let's hope not. Why announce it for months ahead, only to delay?

[Macfan4life]

This is really something and definitely going to order this. Its worth the 1974 live studio concert on CD alone.
Now dont call me greedy but having heard Bare Trees concert with Danny or something with Bob Weston.

I love the Bob Welch era but when you listen to Weston live, he adds so much more power to the live show. Speaking of which. Is the only live "Why" with Weston is the Midnight Special? If my memory is correct, the Mystery To Me tour had just started when Weston was fired and the tour cancelled. Are there any live recordings of these shows before he is fired? Mystery to Me is probably my favorite Mac album. Heroes is almost just as good. I cant imagine what what album would have been like with Weston.

[Murrow]

This is really something and definitely going to order this. Its worth the 1974 live studio concert on CD alone.
Now dont call me greedy but having heard Bare Trees concert with Bob Weston, I would have so wanted to have some more live stuff especially that concert.

I love the Bob Welch era but when you listen to Weston live, he adds so much more power to the live show. Speaking of which. Is the only live "Why" with Weston is the Midnight Special? If my memory is correct, the Mystery To Me tour had just started when Weston was fired and the tour cancelled. Are there any live recordings of these shows before he is fired? Mystery to Me is probably my favorite Mac album. Heroes is almost just as good. I cant imagine what what album would have been like with Weston.

Didn't know Weston had played any of the Bare Trees shows. Was Dave Walker there too?

[Macfan4life]

Didn't know Weston had played any of the Bare Trees shows. Was Dave Walker there too?
I just got back from vacation today and was up since 1:30. I had a brain fart and typo. You are correct, Weston was not part of Bare Trees. It was Danny and that is who I meant. I should have said, I would have loved a concert with Kirwin or with Weston but the package is still impressive.
Fleetwood Mac guitarists are sometimes hard to keep track of ;) Each is so impressive.

[jwd]

And to think I'd never buy another Fleetwood Mac record again..... This is too good to pass up. Especially the remastered cd versions of all these fantastic songs. Peter, Danny, and Bob, RIP my brothers. Never forgotten. Your music lives on forever.

Thanks for the heads up on this.

[BLY]

And to think I'd never buy another Fleetwood Mac record again..... This is too good to pass up. Especially the remastered cd versions of all these fantastic songs. Peter, Danny, and Bob, RIP my brothers. Never forgotten. Your music lives on forever.

Thanks for the heads up on this.

You are welcome.....I’m so excited for this set!

[jwd]

You are welcome.....I’m so excited for this set!

I really wouldn't have known about it unless I saw your post. :angel:

Definitely excited. I feel like it's our FM crown!!!

[SteveMacD]

I love the Bob Welch era but when you listen to Weston live, he adds so much more power to the live show. Speaking of which. Is the only live "Why" with Weston is the Midnight Special? If my memory is correct, the Mystery To Me tour had just started when Weston was fired and the tour cancelled. Are there any live recordings of these shows before he is fired? Mystery to Me is probably my favorite Mac album. Heroes is almost just as good. I cant imagine what what album would have been like with Weston.

I have the Record Plant set, but I hope this is significantly better quality.

The ‘74 Record Plant show has “Why.” I only thought they did “Miles Away” and “Believe Me” on Midnight Special. Didn’t know about “Why.”

[HomerMcvie]

I have the Record Plant set, but I hope this is significantly better quality.

The ‘74 Record Plant show has “Why.” I only thought they did “Miles Away” and “Believe Me” on Midnight Special. Didn’t know about “Why.”

Same. I've had it for years, from trading.

Is it during Sentimental Lady? Someone hands Bob something(or whatever) right before he starts singing, and he says "thanks" right before the vocal starts. I always add "thanks" right before singing along. Imma dork.

[SteveMacD]

The one thing this set is missing that would have made it perfect is Jeremy’s solo album with the aborted EP as bonus tracks.

[lazy poker]

The one thing this set is missing that would have made it perfect is Jeremy’s solo album with the aborted EP as bonus tracks.
that's a nice idea indeed! and it also raises the question why they didn't jump at that chance with the 2015 reissue of jeremy's album - maybe for the very same unknown reason?! same with "purple dancer" - why hadn't this been included on the earlier "kiln house" re-release (as this would've been an obvious choice anyway)?!
:shrug:

[Macfan4life]

I have the Record Plant set, but I hope this is significantly better quality.

The ‘74 Record Plant show has “Why.” I only thought they did “Miles Away” and “Believe Me” on Midnight Special. Didn’t know about “Why.”
I was half right. The Mac did perform Why on the Midnight Special but it was 1976 with Stevie and Lindsey. They did do the Midnight Special in 1973 but Why was not performed or recorded :(


I had the 74 studio concert recorded from the radio in late 1983 or early 1984. Believe it or not but the entire concert was aired on a top 40 radio station late one Friday or Saturday night. IMHO, I believe they may have aired it by mistake thinking its Fleetwood mac with Lindsey and Stevie. The top 40 radio station would never have played vintage Mac songs let alone a live show. But I always enjoyed it. So many highlights: Bermuda Triangle, Hypnotized, Why, Sentimental Lady, etc.

Call me greedy but I wish we could get another live show on this package either Bare Trees or elusive few Mystery to Me shows. Does anyone know if any recordings of the brief Mystery to Me tour exist? If I could go back in time, this is the Mac show I would have sold my soul to see.

[HomerMcvie]

I was half right. The Mac did perform Why on the Midnight Special but it was 1976 with Stevie and Lindsey. They did do the Midnight Special in 1973 but Why was not performed or recorded :(


I had the 74 studio concert recorded from the radio in late 1983 or early 1984. Believe it or not but the entire concert was aired on a top 40 radio station late one Friday or Saturday night. IMHO, I believe they may have aired it by mistake thinking its Fleetwood mac with Lindsey and Stevie. The top 40 radio station would never have played vintage Mac songs let alone a live show. But I always enjoyed it. So many highlights: Bermuda Triangle, Hypnotized, Why, Sentimental Lady, etc.

Call me greedy but I wish we could get another live show on this package either Bare Trees or elusive few Mystery to Me shows. Does anyone know if any recordings of the brief Mystery to Me tour exist? If I could go back in time, this is the Mac show I would have sold my soul to see.

And for the first time in history, actually RAISED the key(before they were geriatrics). The original was in D, and they were doing it live in E, with Lindsey and $tevie.

The Bob Welch years are so underrated! I'd love to have a time machine to go back and see one show from then!

[jbrownsjr]

And for the first time in history, actually RAISED the key(before they were geriatrics). The original was in D, and they were doing it live in E, with Lindsey and $tevie.

The Bob Welch years are so underrated! I'd love to have a time machine to go back and see one show from then!

That Bare Trees Concert alone gave me chills. I'd love to go back in time, too!

[nicepace]

Call me greedy but I wish we could get another live show on this package either Bare Trees or elusive few Mystery to Me shows. Does anyone know if any recordings of the brief Mystery to Me tour exist? If I could go back in time, this is the Mac show I would have sold my soul to see.

Okay, you're greedy. (lol) Me too! I have been waiting for years for a live recording to surface from the 'Mystery To Me' shows, but nothing. I just love that record so much; I think it's my favorite FM album of all time, although 'Bare Trees' is right up there with it.

[HomerMcvie]

Okay, you're greedy. (lol) Me too! I have been waiting for years for a live recording to surface from the 'Mystery To Me' shows, but nothing. I just love that record so much; I think it's my favorite FM album of all time, although 'Bare Trees' is right up there with it.

It's every bit as good as Rumours and Tusk.

For a long time, it was my summer album. Every day around noon, I'd put it on and lay by the pool for an hour, before I'd actually accomplish anything for the day!:lol:

[Murrow]

What's kind of annoying is it's not being made available on download by the looks of things. No preview on iTunes or anything. Would've been nice for those who just want the bonus tracks initially. The all or nothing deal has Mick written all over it...

[jbrownsjr]

Wow, that's a bit weird. I have to download all the songs from the cd?

[soul_drifter333]

I'm sure these have already been shared before but in case someone doesn't have them.

http://bigozine2.com/roio/?p=4919

http://bigozine2.com/roio/?p=2262

[BLY]

No audio clips on the unreleased or alternate tracks yet from the box set?

[jbrownsjr]

I'm sure these have already been shared before but in case someone doesn't have them.

http://bigozine2.com/roio/?p=4919

http://bigozine2.com/roio/?p=2262

Thanks!!:blob2:

[GJK]

So happy with this release! 'The purple dancer' has been my favourite FM song since 1979 or so, and it sounds so crisp and magnificent!

[GJK]

So happy with this release! 'The purple dancer' has been my favourite FM song since 1979 or so, and it sounds so crisp and magnificent!

And yes, TPO has the same track order as the 2013 remaster. :-)

[lazy poker]

And yes, TPO has the same track order as the 2013 remaster. :-)
does it sound any kind of different or just the same as the 2013 release?

[GJK]

does it sound any kind of different or just the same as the 2013 release?

I started with Kiln House but I can't think why this TPO release should sound any different from the 2013 (and upcoming) remaster. Even the file sizes (I ripped the TPO CD for personal use) are the same.

[GJK]

A nice surprise: 'Lay it all down [alternative version]' is totally different from the 1992 release, and with 8:15 considerably longer.
The unedited version of 'What a shame' is 8:26 and has lyrics. :-)
'Stone' is a short (2:25), acoustic Welch song.
The alternative versions of 'Sometimes' and 'Show me a smile' are indeed different versions/takes.

[lazy poker]

I started with Kiln House but I can't think why this TPO release should sound any different from the 2013 (and upcoming) remaster. Even the file sizes (I ripped the TPO CD for personal use) are the same.
thank you!

[jwd]

Mine should be arriving this afternoon. Definitely something that is going to fill my long Labor Day weekend. Great collection of work. And no goat sounds either! :)

Thanks for the updates so far.

[BLY]

A nice surprise: 'Lay it all down [alternative version]' is totally different from the 1992 release, and with 8:15 considerably longer.
The unedited version of 'What a shame' is 8:26 and has lyrics. :-)
'Stone' is a short (2:25), acoustic Welch song.
The alternative versions of 'Sometimes' and 'Show me a smile' are indeed different versions/takes.


Thanks for the post as I’m PATIENTLY waiting for the delivery today of my box set.😎

[SteveMacD]

How does “Good Things” compare to “Don’t Wait Too Long?”

Upset that I preordered from Amazon, but not getting it until next week, especially since I live a mile from a fulfillment center.

[aleuzzi]

Haven't listened to all of it yet, but here are some initial responses:

The Record Plant show sounds very crisp and clear. "Bermuda Triangle" and "Believe Me" sound especially good to my ears.

Future Games is the real gift--the extended versions of "Lay It All Down" and "What a Shame" are very R&B-influenced with punchy horn charts and guitar solos. I understand why the band went with a compressed version of "Lay" for the sake of the band foregrounding its rock roots, but I am not sure why "What a Shame" was originally cut to such a small amount. The extended version sounds really good--I guess for the same reason: they wanted to step away from the R&B association?

Stone is a very nice acoustic song. The alternative "Show Me a Smile" is essentially the same as the original without some keyboard fills and without vocal effects on the chorus.

Great to have "Dragonfly" and "Purple Dancer" available in a cd format. I wish the band had also included the live-in-studio version of "Crazy Bout You Baby."

More soon.

[aleuzzi]

Update: The Live "Homeward Bound" track is amazeballs!!!!!! The opening guitar solo is blistering and Christine's voice on this sounds way better than it does on the album. Her organ work is pretty damn funky, too. Oh, if only this version were the one that was on Bare Trees!

Wow. Just wow.

[JeremyGloff]

Did anyone else listen to "Mystery To Me" and play "Good Things" right after "The Way I Feel" just to see what it would have originally sounded like?

I remember getting the vinyl in the early 80s at 9 years old - and so curious why that lyric sheet had lyrics for a different song than was on the album! Was cool, at 45 in 2020 to FINALLY hear that song.

"For Your Love" of course is more commercial (I guess?) but "Good Things" is classic Bob Welch - could have easily fit on Penguin, Mystery, or Heroes. I personally like it better than the cover version of "For Your Love" - and love that little vocal run Christine McVie does throughout the song with the strange echo effect on her voice.

It's been years since I heard the Bob Welch solo version so I'll have to dig that out to compare.

"Homeward Bound" live is such a treat. I loved the early take of "Show Me A Smile" - the vocals on the alternate take had the rawness and tone of her vocals on the Christine Perfect album - which I loved. Some alternate lyrics too.

"What A Shame" - I almost fell of my chair when the vocals came in - I think it's Danny Kirwan (interesting how no matter which incarnation of the band they meld to sound similar sometimes).

"Stone" - the unearthed Bob Welch song - is basically just an acoustic guitar an voice song - nothing that will change anyone's life but still cool to get one more unheard Bob Welch song.

I love the CD covers which are direct replications of the LPs - right down to the "Kiln House" and "Mystery To Me" inserts (which are totally authentic with the misprinted "Good Things" lyrics - which actually are now applicable).

I love early Fleetwood Mac so this box set is a dream come true for me.

And...sorry no unearthed outtakes from Mrs. Scarrot.

[Street_Dreamer]

I'm really looking forward to this release, particularly the newly released songs by Bob. This whole period of the band is so overlooked and underappreciated. In spite of all the recent stuff that's gone on with the band in regards to Lindsey, I will always have strong feelings for it.

[brucewayne]

It doesn't look like these are available digitally :(

[HomerMcvie]

It doesn't look like these are available digitally :(You don't own a CD player or turntable?

[jwd]

How does “Good Things” compare to “Don’t Wait Too Long?”

Upset that I preordered from Amazon, but not getting it until next week, especially since I live a mile from a fulfillment center.

Very similar, with the exception that Christine's voice is featured prominently on FM's "Good Things". It's a haunting kind of echo like vocal. Whereas, if I remember correctly, it's not featured at all on Bob's solo "Don't Wait Too Long". I'd say it also has more of a FM rhythm section vibe to it as well, which is always a good thing. I didn't realize this song predated to an earlier FM version, but I recognized it as soon as I heard it.

Ordered mine from Amazon as well. Received a message that the set would be delivered mid-month, but was pleasantly surprised it was sent as originally stated. I'm super close to Amazon fulfillment centers as well, so I'm confused on why yours was delayed.

Haven't listened to everything yet (just MTM and Bare Trees so far), but what I've heard sounds amazingly clear and crisp. Bonus tracks at the end haven't disappointed either.

[aleuzzi]

Very similar, with the exception that Christine's voice is featured prominently on FM's "Good Things". It's a haunting kind of echo like vocal. Whereas, if I remember correctly, it's not featured at all on Bob's solo "Don't Wait Too Long". I'd say it also has more of a FM rhythm section vibe to it as well, which is always a good thing. I didn't realize this song predated to an earlier FM version, but I recognized it as soon as I heard it.

Ordered mine from Amazon as well. Received a message that the set would be delivered mid-month, but was pleasantly surprised it was sent as originally stated. I'm super close to Amazon fulfillment centers as well, so I'm confused on why yours was delayed.

Haven't listened to everything yet (just MTM and Bare Trees so far), but what I've heard sounds amazingly clear and crisp. Bonus tracks at the end haven't disappointed either.

Christine’s vocal is featured on “Don’t Wait Too Long.” It’s one of the best parts of that song.

[jwd]

Christine’s vocal is featured on “Don’t Wait Too Long.” It’s one of the best parts of that song.

Oh, ok. Haven't listened to that album or song in ages. Never was a particular favorite of mine.

[aleuzzi]

Oh, ok. Haven't listened to that album or song in ages. Never was a particular favorite of mine.

I hear ya. I personally like prefer the bulk of THREE HEARTS more than FRENCH KISS. But I haven't heard it in ages, either.

One thing I did notice about "Good Things" is how much of the instrumentation is a dry-run for some of the musical ideas in "Bad Loser." Mick's drumming, the guitar harmonics near the end...

[SteveMacD]

One thing I did notice about "Good Things" is how much of the instrumentation is a dry-run for some of the musical ideas in "Bad Loser." Mick's drumming, the guitar harmonics near the end...

Mine arrived this morning. I’ve only listened to “Good Things” and “Stone,” and that’s a great description of “Good Things.”

Now that I’ve heard it, I think Bob Weston may have been right. Great song, but the album needed another guitar heavy rocker.

[brucewayne]

You don't own a CD player or turntable?

Actually, no I don't.

[jwd]

8 remastered cds for under $50! Damn, I'm really loving revisiting these songs and bonus material all with enhanced sound. Christmas came early this year!

That continuum of Future Games, Bare Trees, and MTM is second only to the Rumours trifecta.

[McLamb]

Mine arrived a few days ago, and I'm so glad to have it. Finally I have great sounding recordings of "Jewel Eyed Judy", "Child Of Mine", "Remember Me", "Bad Loser", and so many more.

Absolutely love the live bonus track of "Homeward Bound" on Bare Trees. The live bonus disc far exceeds my expectations... really love these versions of "Believe Me" and "Why".

[Murrow]

And yes, TPO has the same track order as the 2013 remaster. :-)

That's a relief.

[~GoldDustWoman~]

I am not really familiar with the original lineup save a few songs. I would like to add it to my FM collection but not sure if LP or CD is the way to go given the fact I don't really know the majority of the songs. Thoughts would be appreciated.

[HomerMcvie]

I am not really familiar with the original lineup save a few songs. I would like to add it to my FM collection but not sure if LP or CD is the way to go given the fact I don't really know the majority of the songs. Thoughts would be appreciated.

Well, where do we start?

Do you listen more to CD's or LP's?

Whatever your answer is, IS your answer.

(Stevie isn't on any of them, just so you know) :D

[jbrownsjr]

(Stevie isn't on any of them, just so you know) :D

Please don't ruin this thread!! :mad:

[HomerMcvie]

Please don't ruin this thread!! :mad:

THERE IS NO FLEETWOOD MAC WITHOUT MY BELOVED $TEVIE!:mad::mad::mad:

[~GoldDustWoman~]

Well, where do we start?

Do you listen more to CD's or LP's?

Whatever your answer is, IS your answer.

(Stevie isn't on any of them, just so you know) :D

I'm well aware Stevie isn't on them. I'd probably say I listen more to CDs, but I do love collecting records. But if I don't like it hate to be out the money on records. I want to explore the original Mac more, which the CDs are more expanded I believe compared to the the LP box set.

:shrug: :confused:

[jbrownsjr]

I'm well aware Stevie isn't on them. I'd probably say I listen more to CDs, but I do love collecting records. But if I don't like it hate to be out the money on records. I want to explore the original Mac more, which the CDs are more expanded I believe compared to the the LP box set.

:shrug: :confused:

If you're truly a FMac fan, you'll love these albums. They might take a bit of getting used to. But, each album has charm and that magic that I love from this band. You can hear Christine's arc in this period and piece it together with her arc Post 1975.

If you're just a Stevie fan, don't waste your money because this most likely will disappoint you.

I would get the cd's and listen in chronological order. Hope you have fun with it.

[~GoldDustWoman~]

If you're truly a FMac fan, you'll love these albums. They might take a bit of getting used to. But, each album has charm and that magic that I love from this band. You can hear Christine's arc in this period and piece it together with her arc Post 1975.

If you're just a Stevie fan, don't waste your money because this most likely will disappoint you.

I would get the cd's and listen in chronological order. Hope you have fun with it.

I'll do that, and let everyone know what I think! :blob1:

[jbrownsjr]

I'll do that, and let everyone know what I think! :blob1:

When I was a kid, I would put Heroes on the turntable, look at the photo and think, "That woman looks like she's a lot of fun."

Turns out I was gay, and she was indeed a lot of fun. Anyway, I hope you enjoy.

[SAT]

Thanks for this thread. Having all of the original albums and many compilations I'm slow to pick up on new "product", most is a re-hash, often of stuff that really didn't need rediscovering. This box set is a bit different, it's got a proper recording of "Purple Dancer" I heard this track when it first came out and was spellbound. I've only ever been able to track it down on a 2nd hand vinyl compilation. The mastering of this set (from what I've heard so far) has been done very well. Thanks again.

[Macfan4life]

Christine was the spark for Fleetwood Mac that really made them so much better as a band. Bob was a later spark where he and Christine could sing together. In the early days before Christine, the Mac was not known for singers. You can hear Christine progress with every album. She really had the knack of writing and performing great songs. I love Sugar Daddy because its a post Stevie/Lindsey era song that easily could have been performed on an earlier album. Dont Stop's shuffle could have been on Heroes without Lindsey's slick production and it still would have been excellent.

My early favorites are Mystery to Me and Heroes are Hard to Find. Bare Trees is good too. "Why" makes Mystery to Me a gem. But overall Chris's songs on Heroes are her best. She got better with every album. Prove your love and Come A Little Bit Closer are insanely good. I wish during the Stevie/Lindsey era that Chris would have remade Come A Little Bit Closer with Stevie and Linsey's harmonies. I think it would have been a smash hit.

[Street_Dreamer]

I had never heard the Future Games story until hearing this box set. This set really leaves me wanting more which is both a good and bad thing. I love it but at the same time, I want more but I know this is probably as much as we're going to get from this period of Fleetwood Mac. It's a fantastic release though and there were a lot of little things in songs that I was able to pick up that I hadn't heard or paid attention to before.

[jbrownsjr]

UHHHHHH they edited Christine's piano solo out of Bermuda Triangle!!! :(

[FuzzyPlum]

I am not really familiar with the original lineup save a few songs. I would like to add it to my FM collection but not sure if LP or CD is the way to go given the fact I don't really know the majority of the songs. Thoughts would be appreciated.


Hi GoldDustWoman,
Just to be clear, this new box set doesn't actually feature the original line-up.
I'd personally suggest you start with Future Games and work your way through to Heroes Are Hard to Find. There's a nice progression in the music towards Rumours. Then, go back to Then Play On and then onto Kiln House.
After that you could start to investigate the original band.
Cheers

[soul_drifter333]

Anyone have the CD version? Are the disc in paper sleeves and is there liner notes or a book with credits and text/pics? I guess the vinyl version doesn't contain the bonus tracks?

[aleuzzi]

UHHHHHH they edited Christine's piano solo out of Bermuda Triangle!!! :(

Yes—it’s more than annoying. I’ve always loved that extended vamp where’s she’s really hitting those chords with gusto. Why do they always mess with her piano parts? Ugh.

I’m also annoyed that they leave in basically all of Bob’s spoken bits but none of Christine’s. They omit several bits of her banter with the crowd on the Remastered ‘75 live set, too. So annoying.

[aleuzzi]

Anyone have the CD version? Are the disc in paper sleeves and is there liner notes or a book with credits and text/pics? I guess the vinyl version doesn't contain the bonus tracks?

All the cds reproduce the original packaging (photo gallery insert for Kiln House, lyric sheet for MTM). But there is no one booklet with pics or liner notes, just a small booklet without pics and the most basic information about the tracks included.

Each cd sounds very crisp.

[jbrownsjr]

Yes—it’s more than annoying. I’ve always loved that extended vamp where’s she’s really hitting those chords with gusto. Why do they always mess with her piano parts? Ugh.

I’m also annoyed that they leave in basically all of Bob’s spoken bits but none of Christine’s. They omit several bits of her banter with the crowd on the Remastered ‘75 live set, too. So annoying.

They actually mute it on the 75 Live set. You can hear it wayyyy in the background. (At least on Station Man Intro)

But, to take out a whole solo before the vamp section??? Why??????

[aleuzzi]

They actually mute it on the 75 Live set. You can hear it wayyyy in the background. (At least on Station Man Intro)

But, to take out a whole solo before the vamp section??? Why??????

Yes, for the ‘75 set, they muted her on the intro to Station Man and the intro to Spare Me. Then a little later in the concert....

Taking out her BT solo is inexcusable. Wtf?

[soul_drifter333]

All the cds reproduce the original packaging (photo gallery insert for Kiln House, lyric sheet for MTM). But there is no one booklet with pics or liner notes, just a small booklet without pics and the most basic information about the tracks included.

Each cd sounds very crisp.

Thanks for the info!

[~GoldDustWoman~]

Hi GoldDustWoman,
Just to be clear, this new box set doesn't actually feature the original line-up.
I'd personally suggest you start with Future Games and work your way through to Heroes Are Hard to Find. There's a nice progression in the music towards Rumours. Then, go back to Then Play On and then onto Kiln House.
After that you could start to investigate the original band.
Cheers

Thanks so much for that tip! I thought this was post Peter Green at least for the LP set it is. The CDs contain the final album with Peter it looks like. Still a good way to get familiar and expand my knowledge of the Mac as whole.

[GJK]

I'm sure these have already been shared before but in case someone doesn't have them.

http://bigozine2.com/roio/?p=4919

http://bigozine2.com/roio/?p=2262

Are these concerts from March '10' & 12 actually the same and from March 12?

[soul_drifter333]

Are these concerts from March '10' & 12 actually the same and from March 12?

I think so. There's some confusion on the date and one is more complete.

[FuzzyPlum]

My set only came at the weekend. Working my way through- up to Bare Tress for today's commute.

Not quite sure what to make of the live Homeward Bound...
...it really rocks...but at times Chris doesn't sound like Chris.

Trinity sounds amazing.
Danny was a tune-genius. If only Elvis Costello or someone could have supplied him with lyrics.

[On Ice]

After waiting patiently for the set to show up digitally, finally ordered the box set from Amazon last night and can't wait till its arrival on Friday!

Re Danny a tune genius, he certainly was and most arguably on par with Green with his blistering guitar and wonderful music. His lyrics were a little spare and repetitive, but look what happens when he uses other lyrics, a soaring masterpiece such as Dust- arguably one of the best songs the band ever recorded. Future Games being the notable exception to the lyrical issues.

[Street_Dreamer]

An aside but I bought the Then Play On re-issue itself. It's exactly the same as the box set but the booklet is nice and I'm a completionist and had to have it.

[On Ice]

I received my box set and what an awesome weekend going through these recordings and hearing many sounds for the first time. My standouts were that rocking version of Homeward Bound on the Bare Trees bonus tracks, Purple Dancer, and Dragonfly on Kiln House and my god, Good Things Come to Those Who Wait, make the crown jewel of the already stellar Mystery to Me. Sounds like it was recorded in 2020 it's so fresh and invigorating. I also liked Stone on Future Games and the sounds of Kirwan's guitar are nothing short of genius . Made me haul out the CD player for the first time in a long time, and what a great journey through time.

[FuzzyPlum]

I received my box set and what an awesome weekend going through these recordings and hearing many sounds for the first time. My standouts were that rocking version of Homeward Bound on the Bare Trees bonus tracks, Purple Dancer, and Dragonfly on Kiln House and my god, Good Things Come to Those Who Wait, make the crown jewel of the already stellar Mystery to Me. Sounds like it was recorded in 2020 it's so fresh and invigorating. I also liked Stone on Future Games and the sounds of Kirwan's guitar are nothing short of genius . Made me haul out the CD player for the first time in a long time, and what a great journey through time.

Good Things Come to Those Who Wait really is very good. Should have been included over For Your Love. I love Christine's backing vocal moans/warbles.

[Street_Dreamer]

Good Things Come to Those Who Wait really is very good. Should have been included over For Your Love. I love Christine's backing vocal moans/warbles.

I love those backing vocals too. The sound just sounds so fresh and completely different from anything Fleetwood Mac ever did before or since to me.

[aleuzzi]

I love those backing vocals too. The sound just sounds so fresh and completely different from anything Fleetwood Mac ever did before or since to me.

She does them again on the THREE HEARTS reboot. They sound great there, too, though this time without the echo effect.

[jbrownsjr]

Wow, I love the ALT versions on Future Games! They seem more authentic.

[aleuzzi]

Wow, I love the ALT versions on Future Games! They seem more authentic.

Especially “Lay It All Down”

[BLY]

I’m loving these remastered masterpieces.Hypnotized just came up on a rotation....what a classic song. It was always in my Fleetwood Mac “Top 10” but it probably has moved up a notch after this release.😎

[jbrownsjr]

Especially “Lay It All Down”

Yes!!! and more keyboards!!! I can hear them so clearly.

[David]

I had hoped that Spotify would have these albums for us subscribers. Should I buy these CDs instead? Are there good photos or liner notes or extras?

[jbrownsjr]

I had hoped that Spotify would have these albums for us subscribers. Should I buy these CDs instead? Are there good photos or liner notes or extras?

I had the same thinking. Tony yelled at me for delaying, so I ordered them quickly.

The packaging seems to be exactly the same as the albums. In other words, when I bought the Reprise albums way back when, there were not lyrics printed in Heroes, or Future Games, etc. The new Live CD has a very cool photo on the cover. I was hoping for a general booklet of some kind: Nope.

I'm still very happy with it. I hope you buy it and write a review here. I loved the ALT versions on Future Games.

[soul_drifter333]

I had the same thinking. Tony yelled at me for delaying, so I ordered them quickly.

The packaging seems to be exactly the same as the albums. In other words, when I bought the Reprise albums way back when, there were not lyrics printed in Heroes, or Future Games, etc. The new Live CD has a very cool photo on the cover. I was hoping for a general booklet of some kind: Nope.

I'm still very happy with it. I hope you buy it and write a review here. I loved the ALT versions on Future Games.

I just got it a few weeks ago. The sound mastering and bonus tracks are amazing but I had hoped for a book with pics and notes. The art on the original albums was low budget so the replication for the reissue is nothing special but at least it is not as cheap as some I've seen. I like the paper sleeves over the plastic cases so that's a nice addition.

[aleuzzi]

I had the same thinking. Tony yelled at me for delaying, so I ordered them quickly.

The packaging seems to be exactly the same as the albums. In other words, when I bought the Reprise albums way back when, there were not lyrics printed in Heroes, or Future Games, etc. The new Live CD has a very cool photo on the cover. I was hoping for a general booklet of some kind: Nope.

I'm still very happy with it. I hope you buy it and write a review here. I loved the ALT versions on Future Games.

I did yell at you. I was Lou Grant to your Mary Richards. When you did buy it, I downed half a bottle of scotch.

[HomerMcvie]

I did yell at you. I was Lou Grant to your Mary Richards. When you did buy it, I downed half a bottle of scotch.

I'll admit that imma cheap bastard. Some import CD website has been promising it to me for $31, the minute they have it in stock. So I've been holding off...

I waited a month for the Mirage boxed set, and got it got half.

Scotch sucks, btw. :laugh:

[aleuzzi]

I'll admit that imma cheap bastard. Some import CD website has been promising it to me for $31, the minute they have it in stock. So I've been holding off...

I waited a month for the Mirage boxed set, and got it got half.

Scotch sucks, btw. :laugh:

I would never dream of shouting at you. I only yell at John. That’s because he loves it. :laugh:

[jbrownsjr]

I would never dream of shouting at you. I only yell at John. That’s because he loves it. :laugh:

I feel sometimes that we should lay it all down in the morning rain. What a shame the sands of time have turned you into a woman of a thousand years that have never showed you a smile, despite all your future games!

[HomerMcvie]

I would never dream of shouting at you. I only yell at John. That’s because he loves it. :laugh:

I think we all know about Johnny Boy's..... quirks. :lol:
:xoxo:

[aleuzzi]

I feel sometimes that we should lay it all down in the morning rain. What a shame the sands of time have turned you into a woman of a thousand years that have never showed you a smile, despite all your future games!

Oh, Bright Fire, I have spent many a Night Watch Dissatisfied, wondering if you’ll Remember Me.

[jbrownsjr]

I think we all know about Johnny Boy's..... quirks. :lol:
:xoxo:

You're just thoughts on a grey day! And no matter how homeward bound you think you are, you're just a ghost in the bare trees as Danny chants you into dust on the sunny side of heaven. So Spare Me!

[HomerMcvie]

So Spare Me!

I've spared you a little. Very little. Don't tell anyone. :p

[aleuzzi]

I've spared you a little. Very little. Don't tell anyone. :p

At least you didn’t Hypnotize him.

[jbrownsjr]

At least you didn’t Hypnotize him.

A little Mystified.

[HomerMcvie]

A little Mystified.

Careful, or I'll slip my hand inside your glove.

[jbrownsjr]

Careful, or I'll slip my hand inside your glove.

Into my Bermuda Triangle. :xoxo:

[HomerMcvie]

Into my Bermuda Triangle. :xoxo:

Talk about some Big Love!

[jbrownsjr]

Talk about some Big Love!

Tony flashed me those Emerald Eyes.

[HomerMcvie]

Tony flashed me those Emerald Eyes.

Come a little bit closer.

[jbrownsjr]

Come a little bit closer.

Fighting for a Vadge

[HomerMcvie]

Fighting for a Vadge

Looks like a Green Manalishi to me.

[jbrownsjr]

Looks like a Green Manalishi to me.

i'm CLOSING MY EYES

[blinker12]

Does anyone know if this set was ever released digitally or on any streaming platforms? It still doesnÂ’t seem to be on Spotify and I was hoping it would eventually show up there.

And/or, anyone know how likely it is for these Rhino sets to become available streaming?

I’d love to hear the stuff but I’m really out of the habit of listening to physical albums in any format!

[On Ice]

I've looked everywhere and it's nowhere to be found digitally. The set is a must have though- pristine remasters and buried treasures- my favs Good Things Come to Those Who Wait and the smoking hot live version of Homeward Bound. Future Games in particular must be listened to front to back and then on repeat a few more times.

[SteveMacD]

Just buy it and upload it to whatever. It’s dirt cheap, even compared to buying it all back in the day.

[blinker12]

Ordered the discs. I have a real soft spot for the 1971-74 albums in particular; Christine was my gateway to mega-fandom and these albums IMO contain her best work. These days, I love Danny’s work just as much. “Sands of Time” ranks among my very favorite of the band’s tracks.

Excited to hear!

[On Ice]

Blinker you are in for a treat! Let us know what you think after you've heard these masterpieces.

[macpai]

Boy do I love these songs just as much as any.

I often wish I could say I got into the Mac in this era. These songs just always seem to fit my mood.

[nicepace]

I have to confess I only listened to the box set after Christine's passing, but I am so glad I have finally done so. Such better sound quality, and some of the bonus tracks are must-haves (Purple Dancer, for example).

Just one question. I assume that the live disk (Live From the Record Plant) is the 4-piece version of the Welch band -- Mick, John, Christine, and Bob (no extra musicians). Am I correct about that?

I do wish the box had more extensive liner notes, but that's a minor quibble.

[SteveMacD]

I have to confess I only listened to the box set after Christine's passing, but I am so glad I have finally done so. Such better sound quality, and some of the bonus tracks are must-haves (Purple Dancer, for example).

Just one question. I assume that the live disk (Live From the Record Plant) is the 4-piece version of the Welch band -- Mick, John, Christine, and Bob (no extra musicians). Am I correct about that?

I do wish the box had more extensive liner notes, but that's a minor quibble.

There was a second keyboardist named Bobby Hunt, who had been in Head West with Bob.

The main one on tour was Doug Graves.

[nicepace]

There was a second keyboardist named Bobby Hunt, who had been in Head West with Bob.

The main one on tour was Doug Graves.

Thanks for that. I had a bootleg LP back in the day that had both Hunt and Graves on it, if I remember correctly, and my memory of it is that their keyboard playing was sometimes more aggressive than I thought was necessary. Is there an easy way to tell when Bobby Hunt is playing and when Christine is playing?

[HomerMcvie]

Thanks for that. I had a bootleg LP back in the day that had both Hunt and Graves on it, if I remember correctly, and my memory of it is that their keyboard playing was sometimes more aggressive than I thought was necessary. Is there an easy way to tell when Bobby Hunt is playing and when Christine is playing?

I think both of them(the guys) were mostly playing organ.

[lazy poker]

Hey, folks - has anybody listened to this box closely with headphones? I must say that I'm astonished that obviously nobody seems to have noticed this (should I have overlooked according posts please let me know):

The much-anticipated debut of the original studio version of "Purple Dancer" on an official CD plus its A-side companion is marred here by a sonic let-down - "Dragonfly" reveals a clearly audible hum (mostly in the right channel) from its fade-out up into the start of "Purple Dancer". At the latter's end one can hear the hum eventually fading out. To me this suggests that both these tracks were not taken from a master tape (let alone original multi-tracks), but from a somewhat inferior source. Nevertheless Justin Smith (being responsible for the remastering of the box set) could've easily covered that - at least during the fade-out of "Dragonfly". For my money this was down to some sloppiness on his part - it certainly slipped through some sort of final check (provided there was one). After all it can't be a fault on my copy only. But we probably won't get "Purple Dancer" any better anymore, I'm afraid . . .

Here's the link to a short mp3 clip of the ending of "Dragonfly":
https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/qavqwvyh3u9vyjxr3lmmb/Dragonfly-rumble.mp3?rlkey=x5f6umyto4nrbgt5kq6ry1r02&st=eepaey5j&dl=0