“I won’t join without Stevie”: FULL TRANSCRIPT!

[SteveMacD]

K: Mick Fleetwood wants you two to join Fleetwood Mac.

L: Well, I won’t join without Stevie.

K: Actually, he wants both of you.

L: Well, I don’t want to play Peter Green songs.

S: Really? You’d have me continue waitressing and cleaning houses instead of half-assing it on pentatonic scales for a few songs?

L: But I’m an artist and...

S: AT WHAT?!? I’m schlocking cheeseburgers and cleaning this asshole’s house to keep us afloat while you and Richard get stoned and screw around on the four track!!!

L: And I love you for that, but I...

S: So help me God, I’ll emasculate you if we don’t join that band!!’

L: But I...

S: Keith, get me a needle...

K: Okay...

L: Alright, we’ll give them six months. Okay?

S: Thanks, sweetie!!!

[soul_drifter333]

What I enjoy most from this website these days is the sense that I feel normal and sane. Some of the behavior on this site is extreme if not ridiculous. :shrug:

[elle]

What I enjoy most from this website these days is the sense that I feel normal and sane. Some of the behavior on this site is extreme if not ridiculous. :shrug:

:thumbsup:

like making up transcripts. :]

[HomerMcvie]

:thumbsup:

like making up transcripts. :]

Fan fiction?

[elle]

Fan fiction?

i find it interesting that according to that "transcript" Stevie was the abusive one in Stevie-Lindsey relationship. :shrug:

[HomerMcvie]

i find it interesting that according to that "transcript" Stevie was the abusive one in Stevie-Lindsey relationship. :shrug:

She's very assertive.:lol::lol::lol:

[button-lip]

Funny to read Stevie getting all mad at Lindsey because he was getting stoned while she was BY FAR the person with more addictions in the band (including the doll phase :eek: )

Fan fiction indeed. :thumbsup:

[SteveMacD]

Funny to read Stevie getting all mad at Lindsey because he was getting stoned while she was BY FAR the person with more addictions in the band (including the doll phase :eek: )

That’s certainly how it played out. Early in their relationship, Christine was a heavier drinker than John, too.

[UnwindedDreams]

This thread is as great as a dream setlist thread.:blob1:
Is the transcript to suggest that Lindsey should've have had a job(s) with a paycheck too? Maybe he could've worked as a cashier in a grocery store rather than the agreement he had with Stevie where she worked in service & then cooked for Lindsey and herself & he stayed at home during the day working out the music.

[button-lip]

This thread is as great as a dream setlist thread.:blob1:
Is the transcript to suggest that Lindsey should've have had a job(s) with a paycheck too? Maybe he could've worked as a cashier in a grocery store rather than the agreement he had with Stevie where she worked in service & then cooked for Lindsey and herself & he stayed at home during the day working out the music.

She said multiple times that it was HER choice to have two jobs to support themselves while he stayed at home working on THEIR music. Did he work on their music all the time? No.

Was she the Queen of cleaning and cooking? No. She wasn't exactly Betty Crocker. Even Keith Olsen said she didn't do much of a cleaning anyway…. :rolleyes:

[HomerMcvie]

She said multiple times that it was HER choice to have two jobs to support themselves while he stayed at home working on THEIR music. Did he work on their music all the time? No.

Was she the Queen of cleaning and cooking? No. She wasn't exactly Betty Crocker. Even Keith Olsen said she didn't do much of a cleaning anyway…. :rolleyes:

He should have left her when he had the chance, pre joining FM.

$he'd be a retired waitress, now.

[Macfan4life]

He should have left her when he had the chance, pre joining FM.

$he'd be a retired waitress, now.
She would still be eating hamburger helper if Lindsey had not put the electric skillet on the stove :eek:

[HomerMcvie]

She would still be eating hamburger helper if Lindsey had not put the electric skillet on the stove :eek:

$he would!!!

I seriously don't think $he's smart enough to successfully dial a phone number.


Edit - why did he put the electric skillet on the stove?

Oh, I get it.... *eyeroll* ;)

[SteveMacD]

She said multiple times that it was HER choice to have two jobs to support themselves while he stayed at home working on THEIR music. Did he work on their music all the time? No.

Was she the Queen of cleaning and cooking? No. She wasn't exactly Betty Crocker. Even Keith Olsen said she didn't do much of a cleaning anyway…. :rolleyes:
Yes, she CHOSE to work so he could hone his craft, but after getting dropped and having no viable path forward, that he even had to think about it really wasn’t fair to her (and Keith, for that matter). Here was a golden opportunity for both of them to have legitimate work in a band on a major label where gender wasn’t an issue, and his instinct wasn’t to simply go for it. He put his dreams (and possible insecurities) ahead of their joint best interests. It’s no wonder she started plotting a solo career as early as 1976.

He should have left her when he had the chance, pre joining FM.
He wouldn’t have joined without her pushing him into it.

[UnwindedDreams]

He put his dreams (and possible insecurities) ahead of their joint best interests. It’s no wonder she started plotting a solo career as early as 1976.


He wouldn’t have joined without her pushing him into it.

As far as Lindsey's "dreams," Stevie has said that she & Lindsey would've made it in music if they didn't join Fleetwood Mac. She often phrases that belief in the context of "the simmering of Buckingham Nicks in the South," where they played to 5,000 persons in a concert. She said they probably would've had many kids. She said she sometimes thinks about if life had gone that way.

On the plotting of her solo career, she said at her Induction Ceremony that the solo career planning started in 1979 and then she did the act of whispering to Paul Fishkin to be discreet about making a solo album.

[Macfan4life]

$he would!!!

I seriously don't think $he's smart enough to successfully dial a phone number.


Edit - why did he put the electric skillet on the stove?

Oh, I get it.... *eyeroll* ;)
**Sigh**
I have deep regrets that I did not ask Lindsey during the meet and greet about the electric skillet. Or better yet, I could have brought a new electric skillet as a gift :)
I would bet my life if an electric skillet was put on the stove to cook hamburger helper it was her!

[HomerMcvie]

**Sigh**
I have deep regrets that I did not ask Lindsey during the meet and greet about the electric skillet. Or better yet, I could have brought a new electric skillet as a gift :)
I would bet my life if an electric skillet was put on the stove to cook hamburger helper it was her!

Missed opportunity!!!


I will give her that $he managed to go far in life, while appearing to be a barely functional being.:laugh:

[bombaysaffires]

this nonsense of him never working while they were together has gone on long enough.

first, he was working on arranging and producing their music -- including HER songs. If left to her they would never have gotten beyond playing two notes on a piano in a dumpster apartment. Arranging her songs and working out all the instrumental parts WAS working. Who sat and fell asleep in the coffee plant while someone else was doing all the instrument playing, engineering, harmonizing, mic set ups, etc??

Who was sitting in the studio all night doodling in notebooks and painting her nails or whatever while OTHER PEOPLE (Lindsey, Keith, Richard etc) did all of the above?

Further, Lindsey DID have an outside job (at least for a while) doing telemarketing. I've got (or had) a tape of him in an interview describing how he'd be selling ad space in some sort of yellow pages type directory and would have to start at like 4 or 5 am to start calling businesses on the east coast (where it would be 7 or 8 am) to try and get them to buy ads. It was in his words a scam and he quit after like maybe a week or two....but then, how long was Miss Thang a dental assistant? She quit after a day. Suffice to say neither of them is particularly cut out for work as anything other than artists.

I will say at least Chris would carry and set up her own gear even after she had roadies. Stevie, by her own admission, has NEVER carried an amp or a mic stand or ANY sort of equipment. Who began having an entourage of assistants as soon as she could afford one? It was only on Chris's first tour back with the 5 that she talked about finally agreeing to get a second/adjoining hotel room for setting up her stage clothes etc. Chris has also talked about in the time before Stevie joined she (Chris) usually carried her own suitcases etc. Not our Queen.

As for your transcript, Stevie wouldn't have been as aggressive with him in those days-- she would have done the passive/aggressive girly thing of pouring on the tears, and saying things like "You've broken my heart", embroidering sad faces on his jeans, and then taking over Richard's room/bed forcing Richard to find somewhere else to sleep.

[michelej1]

Stevie may have gotten them regular weekly income from her jobs. The kind of regular cash flow that you need to pay the utility bills. But Lindsey had gigs. We all know that he was working when she wrote Landslide and she was pouty about it. He also was working when Mick made him an offer, because I remember someone mentioned it in the Warren Zevon book, that they told him he didn’t need Fleetwood Mac because he was making a whopping $400 with them.

Lindsey used that 10k he inherited from the aunt towards their equipment, but said he had some left over. And remember, Stevie left him briefly and went away and he was maintaining the apartment with Richard in her absence. She said she had to come back when she ran out of money and she had to eat humble pie to move back in with him. He was managing to pay rent somehow without her or getting Richard to pay his share. He may have been on the floor smoking hash, ruining their electrical appliances, bouncing checks and being lazy, but all told he probably contributed at least as much money to the household as she did.

[UnwindedDreams]

Stevie may have gotten them regular weekly income from her jobs. The kind of regular cash flow that you need to pay the utility bills. But Lindsey had gigs.
Skilled versus unskilled work?

[button-lip]

As for your transcript, Stevie wouldn't have been as aggressive with him in those days-- she would have done the passive/aggressive girly thing of pouring on the tears, and saying things like "You've broken my heart", embroidering sad faces on his jeans, and then taking over Richard's room/bed forcing Richard to find somewhere else to sleep.

We all know the story that Lindsey used to spend his days getting stoned and doing nothing while $tevie was the martyr who spent her days scrubing and cooking is a nice and fabricated fiction.
$tevie herself had talked many times about that period of her life and she never implied a transcript like that. :wavey:

[SteveMacD]

$tevie herself had talked many times about that period of her life and she never implied a transcript like that. :wavey:

”Parody: an imitation of the style of a particular writer, artist, or genre with deliberate exaggeration for comic effect.” :wavey:

[michelej1]

Skilled versus unskilled work?

Yeah, but I don’t say that gal could not have earned a living. Really. She can make a song with her background vocals alone. I don’t deny her that. I am sure she could have been a studio singer, if she did not break out as a lead.

[HomerMcvie]

Yeah, but I don’t say that gal could not have earned a living. Really. She can make a song with her background vocals alone. I don’t deny her that. I am sure she could have been a studio singer, if she did not break out as a lead.

I don't know about the studio singer part. She's never been a strong singer, nor had much stamina.

And on harmony, she can't seem to lose her vibrato, which doesn't blend on harmonies. Remember Lindsey asking her in the Tusk doc outtakes, 'as little vibrato as you can go for, Stevie'. Her vibrato is fine on lead, but not on harmonies. It clashes.

[SteveMacD]

I don't know about the studio singer part. She's never been a strong singer, nor had much stamina.

And on harmony, she can't seem to lose her vibrato, which doesn't blend on harmonies. Remember Lindsey asking her in the Tusk doc outtakes, 'as little vibrato as you can go for, Stevie'. Her vibrato is fine on lead, but not on harmonies. It clashes.

It never seems to hurt Emmylou.