View Full Version : The Rhiannon film is finally happpening?
ricohv
02-24-2020, 11:18 PM
According to this interview with Mike Campbell, he mentions that he'd like to do an album instead of only live shows, but that won't happen until Stevie finishes her Rhiannon film. Something must be happening with Stevie & that film...maybe?!
https://consequenceofsound.net/2020/02/kyle-meredith-with-mike-campbell/
SteveMacD
02-24-2020, 11:56 PM
That was his subtle way of saying there won’t be a new Fleetwood Mac album.
jbrownsjr
02-25-2020, 08:39 AM
Yes, I felt that was sarcasm.
ricohv
02-25-2020, 09:41 AM
Yes, I felt that was sarcasm.
If that's the case, it's actually kind of funny. I guess I just didn't suspect it coming from him! :]
vivfox
02-25-2020, 10:40 AM
Goodbye Yellow Brick Road
jbrownsjr
02-25-2020, 01:02 PM
If that's the case, it's actually kind of funny. I guess I just didn't suspect it coming from him! :]
It's really funny. People have gotten fired for less! :xoxo:
Villavic
02-25-2020, 04:23 PM
People have gotten fired for less! :xoxo:
Now THIS was really funny. I didn't see that coming.:thumbsup:
jbrownsjr
02-25-2020, 09:23 PM
Now THIS was really funny. I didn't see that coming.:thumbsup:
Did you smirk or waltz?
David
02-26-2020, 02:29 PM
The Rhiannon film? Directed by Christopher Guest, maybe — a mockumentary about a wealthy superstar who keeps bringing up an idea for a movie based on her song, despite the fact that she is no closer to seeing it realized than she was forty years ago, thus making her the Edward Casaubon of pop.
jbrownsjr
02-26-2020, 06:53 PM
The Rhiannon film? Directed by Christopher Guest, maybe — a mockumentary about a wealthy superstar who keeps bringing up an idea for a movie based on her song, despite the fact that she is no closer to seeing it realized than she was forty years ago, thus making her the Edward Casaubon of pop.
Not sure who Edward Casaubon is. Is he a character in a Jane Austen novel?
But there is a Family Guy joke. (running joke) Where Brian keeps talking about writing his novel. After a while, Stewie keeps asking him how his book is coming along. And each time he asks, his voice goes up an octave or so. :]
vivfox
02-26-2020, 11:04 PM
If by any insane reality Stevie manages to kick out a Rhiannon movie in the next year and a half, my guess is it will end up being a 15 minute video containing outdated graphics we'll laugh at. But at least we'll get the music we have waited forever and a day for. Hopefully she'll give us the originals from the 1970's.
HomerMcvie
02-26-2020, 11:39 PM
Did you smirk or waltz?
Listen, Sleazy Nicks has been talking about this thing for at least 41 years. I'd figure at her age she'd have forgotten about it by now.
Maybe goats remember where they left a tin can 41 years ago? Or however long goats live....
Not sure who Edward Casaubon is. Is he a character in a Jane Austen novel?
But there is a Family Guy joke. (running joke) Where Brian keeps talking about writing his novel. After a while, Stewie keeps asking him how his book is coming along. And each time he asks, his voice goes up an octave or so. :]
Edward Casaubon is a main character in Middlemarch by George Eliot.
He marries Dorothea just for her to be his assistant.
jbrownsjr
02-27-2020, 09:27 AM
Edward Casaubon is a main character in Middlemarch by George Eliot.
He marries Dorothea just for her to be his assistant.
Oh well I think I got the time period correct. The name sounds 1800's. :lol:
Villavic
02-27-2020, 10:36 AM
But at least we'll get the music we have waited forever and a day for. Hopefully she'll give us the originals from the 1970's.
What music? Is there any (wanted) no released material? More than the included in the 5784 deluxe and expanded editions Mick released?
vivfox
02-27-2020, 10:58 AM
What music? Is there any (wanted) no released material? More than the included in the 5784 deluxe and expanded editions Mick released?
Well technically we probably have heard them already with our digital remasters. I have the list somewhere that I don't feel like looking for but one of the songs is Forest of the Black Roses.I can tell you that.
bombaysaffires
02-27-2020, 11:30 AM
Well technically we probably have heard them already with our digital remasters. I have the list somewhere that I don't feel like looking for but one of the songs is Forest of the Black Roses.I can tell you that.
And Birds of Rhiannon.
Isn't Sisters of the Moon from that bunch too?
I believe she's said there are several that got picked up as FM songs. Not sure what the others are. Or if she used any for solo albums.:shrug:
Someone in the chiffdom must know.
Wonder what happened to the idea of making it a ballet..... I think it should be a stage play or something live. Not sure I can see a musical movie...? Unless she's been inspired by stuff like GoT.
Villavic
02-27-2020, 12:32 PM
Isn't Sisters of the Moon from that bunch too?
It's possible. Mick mentioned in his first book she wrote that song in the mid 70s, but no mention about a recording from those days.
She also felt a lot better after "Over My Head" jammed into the American Top Ten in November 1975. Stevie's harmonies were a crucial element in that record's sound, so the airplay and good sales gradually invalidated banal jibes in the press. In fact, like many artists, she was able to turn her blues into something creative and beautiful. I have a strong image of her during that first tour, sitting backstage and writing the Iyrics to "Sisters of the Moon" in her notebook, working into her art some of the torn and frayed feelings from those earliest days on the road.
David
02-27-2020, 01:57 PM
A lot of people think that Mistaken Love is from that cycle.
In addition to Forest of the Black Roses, there’s one called The Maker of Birds (copyrighted with that title in 1978). Some people think Blue Water, Stay Away, Kind of Woman, and Sorcerer were originally part of that cycle. And is Sisters of the Moon really a Rhiannon song? Why, just because it’s dark and mystical? So is Planets of the Universe.
I’ve heard people say that even Angel was originally part of the song cycle, but I never bought it—the only connection to Rhiannon is a tenuous one: in a 1979 radio interview with Jim Ladd, Stevie says that one of the lines refers tangentially to the story (“so I close my eyes softly till I become that part of the wind that we all long for sometime”).
Stevie said in 1989 that she had 11 Rhiannon songs fully recorded. Problem is that she has never really explained what makes or doesn’t make a Rhiannon song: the theme? the date of writing? the original intent to use as part of a movie project? A lot of these songs have not much in common thematically or even musically. I guess you could argue that something like Kind of Woman, which is pretty oblique in its images and general in its recollection of unrequited love, could apply as much to Rhiannon as to Lindsey–Stevie. But Stevie hasn’t ever given us a clear idea of what it means to be a Rhiannon song.
bombaysaffires
02-27-2020, 02:17 PM
A lot of people think that Mistaken Love is from that cycle.
In addition to Forest of the Black Roses, there’s one called The Maker of Birds (copyrighted with that title in 1978). Some people think Blue Water, Stay Away, Kind of Woman, and Sorcerer were originally part of that cycle. And is Sisters of the Moon really a Rhiannon song? Why, just because it’s dark and mystical? So is Planets of the Universe.
I’ve heard people say that even Angel was originally part of the song cycle, but I never bought it—the only connection to Rhiannon is a tenuous one: in a 1979 radio interview with Jim Ladd, Stevie says that one of the lines refers tangentially to the story (“so I close my eyes softly till I become that part of the wind that we all long for sometime”).
Stevie said in 1989 that she had 11 Rhiannon songs fully recorded. Problem is that she has never really explained what makes or doesn’t make a Rhiannon song: the theme? the date of writing? the original intent to use as part of a movie project? A lot of these songs have not much in common thematically or even musically. I guess you could argue that something like Kind of Woman, which is pretty oblique in its images and general in its recollection of unrequited love, could apply as much to Rhiannon as to Lindsey–Stevie. But Stevie hasn’t ever given us a clear idea of what it means to be a Rhiannon song.
in one of the Bella Donna interviews Viv posted links to Stevie talks in detail about Kind of Woman being specifically about Lindsey and about him going off on tour (presumably the everly brothers tour) and her fearing he would meet someone on the road and have a fling and what that would mean for them etc. I hadn't heard that specific clip before. 'you have another waiting at home' is her. etc.
But I agree, it hasn't been clear in anything she's said what counts as a Rhiannon song. But given that the ones we know for sure are specifically talk about either Rhiannon herself or contain concrete descriptions of things in the Mabinogion (she takes the description of the three birds in Birds of Rhiannon almost verbatim out of the book) or plot elements ('kill the dark lord of death' etc) it's hard to fit some of her other songs into that. Could there be some great demos still unheard from the 70s?? Now THAT would be exciting.
mitzo
02-27-2020, 04:28 PM
The idea of a film is nuts, she has no training or skills to make one and hiring directors and so on is too expensive. She needs to just collect all the Rhiannon songs and make a concept album. Call up Dave Stewart and get cracking. Add lush photos and some of her paintings, rambling lyrics and "poetry", a fancy package.
bombaysaffires
02-27-2020, 04:51 PM
The idea of a film is nuts, she has no training or skills to make one and hiring directors and so on is too expensive. She needs to just collect all the Rhiannon songs and make a concept album. Call up Dave Stewart and get cracking. Add lush photos and some of her paintings, rambling lyrics and "poetry", a fancy package.
hmm...I dunno. her voice these days just wouldn't do those songs the same justice as the demos. she couldn't hit some of those high notes and her voice is way too raggedy now versus how smooth and clear it was then.:sorry:
David
03-23-2020, 06:19 PM
For the film, is there any chance that they could get Amy Schumer?
mitzo
03-23-2020, 06:32 PM
For the film, is there any chance that they could get Amy Schumer?
I was hoping for Rupaul.
Feather Blade
03-23-2020, 06:52 PM
Just saw a post from Stevie on Facebook. She says being stuck inside during this virus scare is sparking her creativity and besides working on drawing and painting,
she is writing a bunch of new poems and songs. Not holding my breath, but it would be nice if something eventually saw the light of day.
bombaysaffires
03-23-2020, 07:04 PM
A lot of people think that Mistaken Love is from that cycle.
In addition to Forest of the Black Roses, there’s one called The Maker of Birds (copyrighted with that title in 1978). Some people think Blue Water, Stay Away, Kind of Woman, and Sorcerer were originally part of that cycle. And is Sisters of the Moon really a Rhiannon song? Why, just because it’s dark and mystical? So is Planets of the Universe.
I’ve heard people say that even Angel was originally part of the song cycle, but I never bought it—the only connection to Rhiannon is a tenuous one: in a 1979 radio interview with Jim Ladd, Stevie says that one of the lines refers tangentially to the story (“so I close my eyes softly till I become that part of the wind that we all long for sometime”).
Stevie said in 1989 that she had 11 Rhiannon songs fully recorded. Problem is that she has never really explained what makes or doesn’t make a Rhiannon song: the theme? the date of writing? the original intent to use as part of a movie project? A lot of these songs have not much in common thematically or even musically. I guess you could argue that something like Kind of Woman, which is pretty oblique in its images and general in its recollection of unrequited love, could apply as much to Rhiannon as to Lindsey–Stevie. But Stevie hasn’t ever given us a clear idea of what it means to be a Rhiannon song.
Blue Water is a Goldfish and Ladybug song
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