Stand Back 1981-2017 Disc 2

[BLY]

I’m listening to disc 2 of this greatest hits album which is the duets of her career. I always loved when Stevie sings with others. Listening to the disc in the sequence as released is amazing. She does some fantastic harmonies.

[cbBen]

I’m listening to disc 2 of this greatest hits album which is the duets of her career. I always loved when Stevie sings with others. Listening to the disc in the sequence as released is amazing. She does some fantastic harmonies.

I feel the same way. "I Will Run To You" is such a great song. Should have been a single.

[BLY]

I feel the same way. "I Will Run To You" is such a great song. Should have been a single.


Yes! I do love the vocal on that one. I like all the tunes when Stevie sings on back vocals and harmonies. It’s probably also while I have never been a fan of Lori or Sharon on the studio recordings. It’s ok in the live shows but I prefer Stevie harmonizing with herself.

[Macfan4life]

I feel the same way. "I Will Run To You" is such a great song. Should have been a single.
Yeah, I was confused it was not the third single from Wild Heart esp since SDMHA with Tom was her biggest solo hit of her career.
Could You imagine if they had a video set ready to go with the song during the peak age of MTV. Would have been a solid hit especially on the rock stations.

[BLY]

Yeah, I was confused it was not the third single from Wild Heart esp since SDMHA with Tom was her biggest solo hit of her career.
Could You imagine if they had a video set ready to go with the song during the peak age of MTV. Would have been a solid hit especially on the rock stations.


Yes but if you remember the success and airplay of SDMHA kept the radio stations from playing Petty’s singles at the time. There was no way they were going to release IWRTY as a single.

[Macfan4life]

Yes but if you remember the success and airplay of SDMHA kept the radio stations from playing Petty’s singles at the time. There was no way they were going to release IWRTY as a single.
Sorry but that is a bridge too far. This was late 1983 and Petty could have used some airplay. You are speaking in 1981 where Petty felt their best song given to Stevie hurt their album.
Completely different in late 1983. The third single from WH was peaking in Feb 1984. Petty had no singles in sight since Long After Dark was released in late 1982.

[cbBen]

Yeah, I was confused it was not the third single from Wild Heart esp since SDMHA with Tom was her biggest solo hit of her career.
Could You imagine if they had a video set ready to go with the song during the peak age of MTV. Would have been a solid hit especially on the rock stations.

Tom may have not signed off on it.

[cbBen]

Yes but if you remember the success and airplay of SDMHA kept the radio stations from playing Petty’s singles at the time. There was no way they were going to release IWRTY as a single.

True, but in mid-'83 Petty didn't have competing material out or even on the horizon.

[cbBen]

I like all the tunes when Stevie sings on back vocals and harmonies. It’s probably also while I have never been a fan of Lori or Sharon on the studio recordings. It’s ok in the live shows but I prefer Stevie harmonizing with herself.

I agree. Her voice is one-of-a-kind and should be utilized as much as possible. I would however say "I Can't Wait' is an exception to this rule. The backing vocals make the song.

[BLY]

Sorry but that is a bridge too far. This was late 1983 and Petty could have used some airplay. You are speaking in 1981 where Petty felt their best song given to Stevie hurt their album.
Completely different in late 1983. The third single from WH was peaking in Feb 1984. Petty had no singles in sight since Long After Dark was released in late 1982.


Stand corrected. My head was in 1981. I’m still not sure if it would have been a good call in 83. Who knows? Everything Stevie sang those days seem to turn to “Gold”

[vivfox]

I guess you can say I was "lucky" enough to watch Tom and Stevie sing I Will Run To You in person at least two times in my life. I've never been a huge fan of that song. If I was playing the vinyl, I would let it spin thru every song but nowadays I always skip over it when I play the CD. Not sure if it would have made a great single at that time.

[Macfan4life]

Tom may have not signed off on it.
Nah, I think its been talked about before that the guy at Stevie's record company regretted picking Nightbird as the 3rd single and publicly stated they could have sold a half million more albums or something like that.
Fishkin states they purposely marketed Stevie as a rocker for Bella Donna. When I listen to the Wild Heart reissued demos and takes, its clear Iovine wanted a more commercial album and safe. IMHO, if they still marketed Stevie as a rocker, IMHO the Wild Heart would have been more successful.
I actually think Enchanted or Nothing Ever Changes should have been the 3rd single. However back in 1983 I was expecting I will run to you. Its not the catchiest tune which is why I would have picked anything else but Nightbird.

[cbBen]

Nah, I think its been talked about before that the guy at Stevie's record company regretted picking Nightbird as the 3rd single and publicly stated they could have sold a half million more albums or something like that.
Fishkin states they purposely marketed Stevie as a rocker for Bella Donna. When I listen to the Wild Heart reissued demos and takes, its clear Iovine wanted a more commercial album and safe. IMHO, if they still marketed Stevie as a rocker, IMHO the Wild Heart would have been more successful.
I actually think Enchanted or Nothing Ever Changes should have been the 3rd single. However back in 1983 I was expecting I will run to you. Its not the catchiest tune which is why I would have picked anything else but Nightbird.

"Enchanted" a great choice.

[mitzo]

Nah, I think its been talked about before that the guy at Stevie's record company regretted picking Nightbird as the 3rd single and publicly stated they could have sold a half million more albums or something like that.
Fishkin states they purposely marketed Stevie as a rocker for Bella Donna. When I listen to the Wild Heart reissued demos and takes, its clear Iovine wanted a more commercial album and safe. IMHO, if they still marketed Stevie as a rocker, IMHO the Wild Heart would have been more successful.
I actually think Enchanted or Nothing Ever Changes should have been the 3rd single. However back in 1983 I was expecting I will run to you. Its not the catchiest tune which is why I would have picked anything else but Nightbird.

I love Nightbird, though, for me it is a classic Stevie composition. I am not a Stevie-as-rocker fan, so it seemed perfectly radio-friendly to me.

[HomerMcvie]

"Enchanted" a great choice.

I remember People magazine reviewing it, and mocking her arrhythmic count off at the beginning of Enchanted.

[snroxman]

In my area at the time, 'Nothing Ever Changes" was being played as the next big song from THW. When "Nightbird" arrived later instead, after playing "Nightbird" one day, the DJ started talking about this song as a single, and ended his comments with "Yeah Right!" (... "Cry for the Nightbird..." Yeah Right!)

Soooo... it probably wasn't the best choice. I'm glad to finally read somewhere that even the record company regretted it!

I would have much preferred "I Will Run To You" over "Nightbird".

[cbBen]

In my area at the time, 'Nothing Ever Changes" was being played as the next big song from THW. When "Nightbird" arrived later instead, after playing "Nightbird" one day, the DJ started talking about this song as a single, and ended his comments with "Yeah Right!" (... "Cry for the Nightbird..." Yeah Right!)

Soooo... it probably wasn't the best choice. I'm glad to finally read somewhere that even the record company regretted it!

I would have much preferred "I Will Run To You" over "Nightbird".

They probably saw a connection to "Edge Of Seventeen" ("I hear the call of a nightbird") that they erroneously thought would make for a sequel-type hit.

[Macfan4life]

I just remembered probably why Enchanted was not released as a single. Its really a copy, cut/paste job from Bob Segar's "Even Now" which was a big hit for Bob earlier that year.
Iovine was working on Bob's "The Distance" almost the same time as the Wild Heart. Stevie was actually invited to the release party of The Distance. Even Now was the second single but it was supposed to be the first single. In any event, the musicians like Russ Kunkel and Roy Bittan are the same. You can pretty much sing Enchanted to the song they are so similar. Even the ending is the same.
Take a listen:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfMMdf7U7Rc

[BLY]

I just remembered why Enchanted was not released as a single. Its really a copy, cut/paste job from Bob Segar's "Even Now" which was a big hit for Bob earlier that year.
Iovine was working on Bob's "The Distance" almost the same time as the Wild Heart. Stevie was actually invited to the release party of The Distance. Even Now was the second single but it was supposed to be the first single. In any event, the musicians like Russ Kunkel and Roy Bittan are the same. You can pretty much sing Enchanted to the song they are so similar. Even the ending is the same.
Take a listen:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfMMdf7U7Rc


I never thought Even Now sounded like Enchanted. Listening to it you can hear some similarities in the keys but that’s it for me.

[Macfan4life]

I never thought Even Now sounded like Enchanted. Listening to it you can hear some similarities in the keys but that’s it for me.
Funny. When Even Now comes on the radio on the car, I sing Enchanted to it. It sounds the same because it has the same players and producers and probably recorded just 5 months apart.

Take away the vocals and each song is almost identical. Of course its not the exact track and Roy is a bit more subtle on Even Now but its almost the same track even how the song ends. Enchanted is a bit more bouncy and Roy's playing is more pronounced.

Its easy to sing along because Even Now is 3 syllables and so is Enchanted. The Distance and Wild Heart also both peaked at #5 on Billboard charts and both sold 2 million copies in addition to both being produced by Jimmy Iovine.

[David]

Don’t you guys think Sable on Blond, with its evocation of Dreams and Mick Fleetwood’s Mick Fleetwoody drumming, might have charted?

[HomerMcvie]

Don’t you guys think Sable on Blond, with its evocation of Dreams and Mick Fleetwood’s Mick Fleetwoody drumming, might have charted?

I thought it was Outside The Rain that $he ripped off?