Unbelievable- there still must be a few dimes to be made from Rumours

[FuzzyPlum]

This website is suggesting Fleetwood Mac will reissue yet another version of the Rumours Deluxe. Really? what possible rationale can there be? Unbelievable. Yawn.

Best Classic Bands
Fleetwood Mac ‘Rumours’ Getting New Deluxe Edition
by Best Classic Bands Staff

https://bestclassicbands.com/fleetwood-mac-rumours-deluxe-2019-8-30-19/


Fleetwood Mac are releasing a deluxe edition of their 1977 juggernaut, Rumours, to coincide with the band’s ongoing tour. The 4-CD set, coming October 25 via Rhino, replicates the 2013 deluxe edition that included numerous previously unreleased takes from the album’s recording sessions and live performances from the subsequent world tour.

In recent years, the band have been methodically issuing deluxe editions of much of their 1970s and 1980s output. The new Rumours release raises eyebrows since the 2013 deluxe edition of the album is still in print. (The new edition omits the latter’s DVD and vinyl release of the studio LP.)

The 2019 deluxe edition of Rumours includes the original album and the b-side “Silver Springs,” a dozen live recordings from the group’s 1977 world tour, an entire disc filled with takes from the album’s recording sessions, and an additional disc of outtakes.


The album, Fleetwood Mac’s 11th studio effort, was originally released on February 4, 1977. With the band having switched from their longtime home of Reprise Records to the parent company Warner Bros., Rumours, co-produced by Fleetwood Mac with Ken Caillat and Richard Dashut, found immediate success. Record buyers related to the intimate songs, several of which were inspired by romantic entanglements and disentanglements (John McVie and Christine McVie had divorced while Lindsey Buckingham and Stevie Nicks were having their own spats).

The album yielded four Top 10 singles in the U.S., though none fared particularly well in the U.K.: “Go Your Own Way” (#10 in the U.S.; #38 in the U.K.), “Dreams” (#1, #24), “Don’t Stop” (#3, #32) and “You Make Loving Fun” (#9, #45).

The new deluxe edition includes a disc of live recordings that’s identical to the 2013 release, namely 12 performances in Oklahoma City, Tulsa, Nashville and Columbia, S.C. from the band’s 1977 Rumours tour. The songs include “The Chain,” “Gold Dust Woman,” “Don’t Stop” and “Go Your Own Way,” as well as “World Turning” and “Rhiannon,” two tracks from the group’s 1975 self-titled release.

[jcalzaretta]

I love the idea of Rumours selling more. I won't gain from this. I'd rather have other stuff. But to each his own.

[HomerMcvie]

I love the idea of Rumours selling more. I won't gain from this. I'd rather have other stuff. But to each his own.

The remasters in 2003 were my last purchase of Rumours. #last

[tothegypsy]

I was really surprised by this release...until I realized that this is just the same 4CD set released in 2013, now available without the DVD and LP.

[cbBen]

I was really surprised by this release...until I realized that this is just the same 4CD set released in 2013, now available without the DVD and LP.

What was on the DVD, and is it anything otherwise unavailable?

[Netter75]

What was on the DVD, and is it anything otherwise unavailable?

The Rosebud documentary film made to promote Rumours, the one containing those performances of I'm So Afraid, Rhiannon, Go Your Own Way, part of World Turning, Say You Love Me, and You Make Loving Fun. All of that footage is on YouTube in decent quality.

[Villavic]

this is just the same 4CD set released in 2013

So this could confirm there is no unknown material worthwhile anymore, from the Rumours sessions. No surprise they are reissuing this collection since, in spite of Lindsey not in the band, there still is a band called Fleetwood Mac on tour. Why they chose Rumours? Well since apparently as of 2013, sales were over 40 million copies, it is obvious. Bussines are bussiness.

[Steviegirl]

Good GRIEF. Will they ever stop embarrassing themselves?! Gross.

[HomerMcvie]

Good GRIEF. Will they ever stop embarrassing themselves?! Gross.

Do they not know(or CARE?) how it makes them look?

Cheesy, CHEAP, money grubbing, with no class.

I guess they need the money.:D

[aleuzzi]

Mick is shameless.

[Steviegirl]

Do they not know(or CARE?) how it makes them look?

Cheesy, CHEAP, money grubbing, with no class.

I guess they need the money.:D

We always knew that it was Lindsey who served as the moral compass where this kind of embarrassing money-grubbing was concerned. No doubt, he was over-ruled at times, but now that he's gone, I'm expecting to see the release of a "Rumours" perfume or ball chafing cream. Little did Lindsey know when he spoke of them, "dishonoring the band's legacy" how low they would sink. Sad and maddening.

[TheMacAttack]

At this point it would not surprise me in the least if the current line up released a new version Rumours-cut out all of Lindsey's parts--and had Neil and Mike rerecord them . That's how truly shameless I think they have become :shrug:

[David]

To put out the same "special edition" with exactly the same content on it smacks of unbelievable laziness. I know plenty of people like this at work and I despise them. They provide the barest minimum to collect their paycheck, and they don't give a damn that their irresponsibility often burdens their colleagues with more work (because their colleagues care about their own work).

I know what's left of Fleetwood Mac doesn't give a damn about anything. But there ought to be someone left at Rhino who cares about these products. I guess not. Rhino is a painful disappointment these days. They used to be such great content curators. They should be ashamed of themselves. They don't deserve to use their old name anymore.

[aleuzzi]

We always knew that it was Lindsey who served as the moral compass where this kind of embarrassing money-grubbing was concerned. No doubt, he was over-ruled at times, but now that he's gone, I'm expecting to see the release of a "Rumours" perfume or ball chafing cream. Little did Lindsey know when he spoke of them, "dishonoring the band's legacy" how low they would sink. Sad and maddening.

RUMOURS perfume! Haha. That’s awesome: “the smell of cocaine, Chinese take-out, and desperation.”

[jwd]

RUMOURS perfume! Haha. That’s awesome: “the smell of cocaine, Chinese take-out, and desperation.”

:laugh: And don't forget smelly platform boots and moldy wooden balls.

[Storms123]

For all of the ridiculous interviews from Mick about the ever evolving line up of FM and how they've never been happier, yet I don't see them rereleasing Kiln House or Time....ever. But Rumours seems to get re released and remastered every few years. Mick is such a joke. I'd love to know how he's going to try to orchestrate the grand "make up"......if for no other reason than he's a money grubbing ick!
I am so glad this tour is almost over.

[button-lip]

At this point it would not surprise me in the least if the current line up released a new version Rumours-cut out all of Lindsey's parts--and had Neil and Mike rerecord them . That's how truly shameless I think they have become :shrug:

And I wouldn't be surprised if they agree. They're as money grubbing as those four as*holes. They knew from the beginning what was going on, they looked the other way, grabbed the cash and jumped on the 'Stevie adulation' wagon. Truly pathetic and shameless. All of them.

[aleuzzi]

For all of the ridiculous interviews from Mick about the ever evolving line up of FM and how they've never been happier, yet I don't see them rereleasing Kiln House or Time....ever. But Rumours seems to get re released and remastered every few years.

A Rhino rerelease of KILN HOUSE would be fantastic. I’d be the first one to pre-order.

And let’s not forget the 1971-1974 catalogue.

[HomerMcvie]

A Rhino rerelease of KILN HOUSE would be fantastic. I’d be the first one to pre-order.

And let’s not forget the 1971-1974 catalogue.

And all 15 of us are going to buy it.

The goat defines FM. :(

There's certainly no accounting for taste of the masses. #trash #lowestcommondenominator

[jbrownsjr]

And all 15 of us are going to buy it.

The goat defines FM. :(

There's certainly no accounting for taste of the masses. #trash #lowestcommondenominator

Do it for the music!! $tevie doesn't care about music anymore. $he cares about power.

[aleuzzi]

Do it for the music!! $tevie doesn't care about music anymore. $he cares about power.

I also think there’s a small but select circle of musicians and discriminating listeners whose respect for the musicianship on those albums from 70-74 would lead them to buy rereleases of them.

[jbrownsjr]

I also think there’s a small but select circle of musicians and discriminating listeners whose respect for the musicianship on those albums from 70-74 would lead them to buy rereleases of them.

They are incredible albums. In many respects, I love Christine more w/ Welch and Kirwan. There's a different but similar beauty and mystery in those songs and albums..

I believe the constant has always a collaboration with McVie/McVie/Fleetwood.

The BuckVie album had a certain magic and charm that you get with Fleetwood Mac. It had nothing to do with B/N. One of the pluses of $tevie not being on that album. And yet, you can still hear her on Lay Down For Free and and Red Sun.

Oh ahh oh.... oh ahh oh....

[Villavic]

I agree they have squeezed the Rumours era records but I'm not sure if Mick or any member is the only responsible of a no Kiln House reissue or any other non Rumours lineup album. As I said, business are business, and I don't see Rhino, Warner, Reprise or any record company interested in reissuing an album that reached #69 in Billboard, or #67 (Mystery to me), and sold 300k to 500k albums at its momentum.

Probably a market research gave the record company no great sales expectations about the old FM albums reissues or deluxe editions. And they are interested in $, not the legacy.

[aleuzzi]

I agree they have squeezed the Rumours era records but I'm not sure if Mick or any member is the only responsible of a no Kiln House reissue or any other non Rumours lineup album. As I said, business are business, and I don't see Rhino, Warner, Reprise or any record company interested in reissuing an album that reached #69 in Billboard, or #67 (Mystery to me), and sold 300k to 500k albums at its momentum.

Probably a market research gave the record company no great sales expectations about the old FM albums reissues or deluxe editions. And they are interested in $, not the legacy.

This is all true, of course. But Rhino has rereleased boutique or cult records. Kiln House and Mystery in particular fit each of those.

When members of Guns and Roses are citing Bob Welch and Kirwan as inspiration, it's clear those obscure records have a following.

[Street_Dreamer]

Why would even the most ardent Fleetwood Mac fan want this release when there is zero new material? You would have to be a mad completionist.

[FuzzyPlum]

I agree they have squeezed the Rumours era records but I'm not sure if Mick or any member is the only responsible of a no Kiln House reissue or any other non Rumours lineup album. As I said, business are business, and I don't see Rhino, Warner, Reprise or any record company interested in reissuing an album that reached #69 in Billboard, or #67 (Mystery to me), and sold 300k to 500k albums at its momentum.

Probably a market research gave the record company no great sales expectations about the old FM albums reissues or deluxe editions. And they are interested in $, not the legacy.

This is all true, of course. But Rhino has rereleased boutique or cult records. Kiln House and Mystery in particular fit each of those.

When members of Guns and Roses are citing Bob Welch and Kirwan as inspiration, it's clear those obscure records have a following.


Individual albums might be a tough ask. Would it be beyond expectation though to put out a collective release covering the whole 70-74 period. I think there'd be a wide market there. People who are curious of the band's pre-75 catalogue but who might not purchase individual albums may be encouraged to buy a single collection. Obviously more ardent fans would jump at anything with rarities/outtakes/alternate versions.

[jbrownsjr]

Individual albums might be a tough ask. Would it be beyond expectation though to put out a collective release covering the whole 70-74 period. I think there'd be a wide market there. People who are curious of the band's pre-75 catalogue but who might not purchase individual albums may be encouraged to buy a single collection. Obviously more ardent fans would jump at anything with rarities/outtakes/alternate versions.

That would be wonderful. We did get one Welch rare tune on the Chain Box Set.

Here's hoping.

[Disneyval]

So why don't the release the DVD with 5.1 surround sound of the Rumours album with it as well? I have been wanting to get that version of the album for a while and I can not find it at a reasonable price anywhere.

[vivfox]

Why would even the most ardent Fleetwood Mac fan want this release when there is zero new material? You would have to be a mad completionist.


I didn't buy the original version of this compilation but I did download the entire thing from the internet. I might buy it because I want a hard copy CD version of that incredible Live Rhiannon from Tucson on the Tusk Tour. So based on everything I have read here, I might be the only person in the world purchasing this "new" release. I'm not interested in vinyl. Just CD's.

[Hawkeye]

I didn't buy the original version of this compilation but I did download the entire thing from the internet. I might buy it because I want a hard copy CD version of that incredible Live Rhiannon from Tucson on the Tusk Tour. So based on everything I have read here, I might be the only person in the world purchasing this "new" release. I'm not interested in vinyl. Just CD's.


That is a great version of Rhiannon! Unfortunately itÂ’s not on the Rumours reissue, itÂ’s on the Tusk reissue.

[sasja]

:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

He thinks the world's a collection of idiots.

That rumours-ship 's so sailed 30 years ago.

[jbrownsjr]

:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

He thinks the world's a collection of idiots.

That rumours-ship 's so sailed 30 years ago.

They should change the name to: Now There You Go Again:)

[aleuzzi]

They should change the name to: Now There You Go Again:)

Alternate alternates might be:

I DON’T WANNA KNOW
NEVER GOING BACK AGAIN
SECOND HAND NEWS

[nodmod]

Now that we are getting another re-packaging of the same songs as the 2013 super-deluxe edition, what are the odds of an Alternate Rumours vinyl release for RSD 2020?

[jbrownsjr]

alternate alternates might be:

I don’t wanna know
never going back again
second hand news

WHY :o

[vivfox]

That is a great version of Rhiannon! Unfortunately itÂ’s not on the Rumours reissue, itÂ’s on the Tusk reissue.


Well you just saved me a nice chunk of change. This was truly a V-8 moment. I'm losing my mind!!

[Disneyval]

Why don’t they release the DVD with the 5.1 surround sound of the Rumours with the release?

[FM77]

Mick is shameless.

LB benefits and has to sign off on this too...

[elle]

LB benefits and has to sign off on this too...

you know what LB would benefit from? public apology. a lot of grovelling.

or in the very least for Mick and the rest to stop shi**ing on him every time they open their mouths. it's been almost 2 years since they ousted him - time to get over it!

[HomerMcvie]

you know what LB would benefit from? public apology. a lot of grovelling.

or in the very least for Mick and the rest to stop shi**ing on him every time they open their mouths. it's been almost 2 years since they ousted him - time to get over it!

I would love to know Mick's IQ. I'll bet it's one typical of a dullard.

Stevie's, too! :lol:

[button-lip]

I would love to know Mick's IQ. I'll bet it's one typical of a dullard.

Stevie's, too! :lol:

And their fans are not far behind if they truly think Lindsey has had some kind of "benefit" from everything that happened to him these past two years…. :rolleyes:

[jeets2000]

LB benefits and has to sign off on this too...

Wait, does he have to sign off on it? I always thought these reissues were the result of the record company wanting to juice these albums for all they're worth (and more, frankly).

[Nicks Fan]

He may have to sign off on it. I know Grace Slick did even after she retired she attended meetings or signed off on reissues or something. I remember one of the members of the band saying that was her only interaction in the music business since retiring in 89 ( with the exception of a handful of one off performances or guest vocals on CD'S etc as well a some press for her 98 autobiography)

[Nicks Fan]

you know what LB would benefit from? public apology. a lot of grovelling.

or in the very least for Mick and the rest to stop shi**ing on him every time they open their mouths. it's been almost 2 years since they ousted him - time to get over it!

I agree with that. Fans keep saying to us to get over it and yet seem to have no trouble with Mick and or the others constantly getting their digs in.

[Storms123]

I agree with that. Fans keep saying to us to get over it and yet seem to have no trouble with Mick and or the others constantly getting their digs in.

Thankfully this tour is in the home stretch..Neil and Mike can go to work with THEIR bands, Mick can go back to his restaurant in Hawaii, John can float around the Pacific, Christine can go back to London and Stevie can rejoin her coven. Can't wait for this to end.

[David]

Thankfully this tour is in the home stretch..Neil and Mike can go to work with THEIR bands, Mick can go back to his restaurant in Hawaii, John can float around the Pacific, Christine can go back to London and Stevie can rejoin her coven. Can't wait for this to end. Not me. I'm so eager to see what's in store for this group of legends. I'm filled with anticipation over what's just around the bend for these guys: reissues, reissues of prior reissues, appearances on American Horror Story and assorted spinoffs, new recordings of Landslide with Lil Tecca and Young Thug and other up-and-comers, and of course more accolades and honors from such organizations as the Academy of Mid-Seventies Concept Albums and the Foundation for the Charitable Support of Wizened Rockers Who Can't Remember Where They Live.

[Storms123]

Not me. I'm so eager to see what's in store for this group of legends. I'm filled with anticipation over what's just around the bend for these guys: reissues, reissues of prior reissues, appearances on American Horror Story and assorted spinoffs, new recordings of Landslide with Lil Tecca and Young Thug and other up-and-comers, and of course more accolades and honors from such organizations as the Academy of Mid-Seventies Concept Albums and the Foundation for the Charitable Support of Wizened Rockers Who Can't Remember Where They Live.

THANK YOU This made me LOL---hysterical. Let's not give them any ideas :)

[sasja]

Not me. I'm so eager to see what's in store for this group of legends. I'm filled with anticipation over what's just around the bend for these guys: reissues, reissues of prior reissues, appearances on American Horror Story and assorted spinoffs, new recordings of Landslide with Lil Tecca and Young Thug and other up-and-comers, and of course more accolades and honors from such organizations as the Academy of Mid-Seventies Concept Albums and the Foundation for the Charitable Support of Wizened Rockers Who Can't Remember Where They Live.

Thanks, David. Now how am I going to get this spray of diet sprite out from between the keys on the keyboard?
:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol: