Next Year

[BigAl84]

Thought I would pass this along, for what it's worth. This is just somebody else's account of what they heard on the radio from Mike Campbell.

"Dirty Knobs update: Get excited people. On my way to work this morning, I heard a new message from Mike Campbell on Tom Petty Radio. He said the Dirty Knobs album, the bulk of which was recorded in a quick two-week session a year ago, is nearly complete. He mentioned that he is working with a voice coach to become more confident with his vocals, and he plans to finish off the record with the band and co-producer George Drakoulias in the next month or so. He is contemplating how to begin rollout of the material this fall after the FM tour wraps up. A CD release will follow before the end of the year, and Mike said next year is entirely reserved for a Dirty Knobs tour!"

Not sure how that affects the possibility of new material from the new band.

[aleuzzi]

In other words: "I made some good money on the Mac tour to fund my real passion."

Meanwhile, the band that fired its chief creative instigator will spend the year buying things.

[lovethemac1]

In other words: "I made some good money on the Mac tour to fund my real passion."

Meanwhile, the band that fired its chief creative instigator will spend the year buying things.

Yep and yep.

[Feather Blade]

Devoting an entire year for touring with a project the size of the Dirty Knobs seems like a long time.

[secondhandchain]

If you think this band is recording ANY new music you are seriously fooled. They are together for a cash grab and that's IT. Stevie does not have any more gas in the tank. DONE

[BigAl84]

An entire year for a rinse and repeat tour sure feels like a long time too. To each their own.

I'm glad Mike will have some time to devote to his other projects, I just hope it doesn't get him fired too LMAO....

[Storms123]

In other words: "I made some good money on the Mac tour to fund my real passion."

Meanwhile, the band that fired its chief creative instigator will spend the year buying things.

Exactly! So sad really. But good for Mike to still have the creative outlet most musicians of his caliber still aspire too. Good for him!

[button-lip]

In other words: "I made some good money on the Mac tour to fund my real passion."

Meanwhile, the band that fired its chief creative instigator will spend the year buying things.

Same goes to Neil Finn. And it's not like the rest of the band didn't know that. It was pure business on both sides. But we're "happier than ever". :rolleyes:

They all screwed up Lindsey big time.

[bombaysaffires]

I hope he didn't take voice coach recommendations from the leader of his new band......

[secondhandchain]

I hope he didn't take voice coach recommendations from the leader of his new band......

Stevie on vocal technique "Mike it's easy, just sing your songs within 2 notes of each other and you'll sound great!" "And if you are writing a song do the same and they will be very easy to sing!"

[lovethemac1]

I hope he didn't take voice coach recommendations from the leader of his new band......

Hahahahahahahaha, awesome!! Love it!

[sleepless child]

There will never be any new Fleetwood Mac music. All Stevie wants is a touring band.

I guess at this stage all they care about is the money and that's why they chose team Stevie.

[sue]

There will never be any new Fleetwood Mac music. All Stevie wants is a touring band.

I guess at this stage all they care about is the money and that's why they chose team Stevie.


Well Stevie is unable to write any new music..
And without their artistic powerhouse, (Lindsey) I doubt that the other three are capable either.
(I wasn’t counting Neil or Mike in the equation)

So yes, all they are is an oldies touring band.
Shame big big shame.

[Storms123]

Well Stevie is unable to write any new music..
And without their artistic powerhouse, (Lindsey) I doubt that the other three are capable either.
(I wasn’t counting Neil or Mike in the equation)

So yes, all they are is an oldies touring band.
Shame big big shame.

Mick Fleetwood’s “Allstar” jamboree

[sue]

Mick Fleetwood’s “Allstar” jamboree

Nearly dropped my toad in the hole, then, laughing

[Storms123]

In other words: "I made some good money on the Mac tour to fund my real passion."

Meanwhile, the band that fired its chief creative instigator will spend the year buying things.

I’ve been wondering, maybe it’s out there somewhere and I missed it, but do you think the 4 remaining of the Rumours 5 paid out the settlement with Lindsey, or do you think the 6 of them collectively took less to pay him?

[secondhandchain]

I’ve been wondering, maybe it’s out there somewhere and I missed it, but do you think the 4 remaining of the Rumours 5 paid out the settlement with Lindsey, or do you think the 6 of them collectively took less to pay him?

To find the answer to that, follow the $$$ in front of Mick and Stevie's nose. EVERYONE.PAID. Mick is probably the worst of them...it's all about $$$.

[aleuzzi]

I’ve been wondering, maybe it’s out there somewhere and I missed it, but do you think the 4 remaining of the Rumours 5 paid out the settlement with Lindsey, or do you think the 6 of them collectively took less to pay him?

No idea. But whatever they paid him likely only took a chunk out of a still-sizeable chunk of money all six of them have made. Otherwise, they wouldn't have settled so quickly.

[hopingtofly]

No idea. But whatever they paid him likely only took a chunk out of a still-sizeable chunk of money all six of them have made. Otherwise, they wouldn't have settled so quickly.

Doubt they had much choice but to settle. Whatever the amount, Lindsey got what he felt was his rightful share. Getting paid millions for NOT touring? Sweet.

[Nicks Fan]

Mick Fleetwood’s “Allstar” jamboree

Yep coming soon to a county fair near you.

[vivfox]

Yep coming soon to a county fair near you.
In yer dreams buddy. As long as your fave Gypsy is on that stage, you will be continually irritated knowing they are performing at your local pro basketball arena with a telephone name.

[aleuzzi]

Doubt they had much choice but to settle. Whatever the amount, Lindsey got what he felt was his rightful share. Getting paid millions for NOT touring? Sweet.

They would have had to settle, yes--but the process would have been likely much slower and painful if whatever Lindsey received prevented them from making handsome profits.

[Murrow]

If you think this band is recording ANY new music you are seriously fooled. They are together for a cash grab and that's IT. Stevie does not have any more gas in the tank. DONE

All the more reason why she should have just quit the kitchen while she couldn't stand the heat. Her and Mick are really showing their true colours now.

[button-lip]

I’ve been wondering, maybe it’s out there somewhere and I missed it, but do you think the 4 remaining of the Rumours 5 paid out the settlement with Lindsey, or do you think the 6 of them collectively took less to pay him?

I think the four a$$holes paid out the settlement. I don't think their two contracted players take any decisions regarding the band. In fact these two made good money for just a couple of concerts and a half FM tour. That's what I call "sweet". :nod::nod:

[FuzzyPlum]

I'd be so annoyed if Lindsey ever went back to a Stevie-involved Fleetwood Mac. Indeed, this would never happen.

However, I can envisage Stevie breaking from FM after this tour. Mike Campbell has his own thing to do. I think Neil Finn is just waiting to get out and do his own this as soon as possible. Thus, I can see Fleetwood Mac disbanding after this tour.

Mick will be sat idol twiddling his thumbs.
If Mick decides he cant wait 2 or 3 years for Stevie to come back to FM I can envisage him reaching out and apologising to Lindsey. I can see Mick seeking a Mick/John/Christine/Lindsey incarnation of the band (Mick:I cant make the same bucks as I can with Stevie, but it would still represent a decent income).

If this happens I'll feel bittersweet...
a) I'd be disappointed in Lindsey if he reconciled.
b) I'd be overwhelmingly happy if Lindsey reconciled.

[Storms123]

I'd be so annoyed if Lindsey ever went back to a Stevie-involved Fleetwood Mac. Indeed, this would never happen.

However, I can envisage Stevie breaking from FM after this tour. Mike Campbell has his own thing to do. I think Neil Finn is just waiting to get out and do his own this as soon as possible. Thus, I can see Fleetwood Mac disbanding after this tour.

Mick will be sat idol twiddling his thumbs.
If Mick decides he cant wait 2 or 3 years for Stevie to come back to FM I can envisage him reaching out and apologising to Lindsey. I can see Mick seeking a Mick/John/Christine/Lindsey incarnation of the band (Mick:I cant make the same bucks as I can with Stevie, but it would still represent a decent income).

If this happens I'll feel bittersweet...
a) I'd be disappointed in Lindsey if he reconciled.
b) I'd be overwhelmingly happy if Lindsey reconciled.

Mick needs people who will help him stay relevant. And for as relevant as Stevie makes herself, she's not making new music so she can't "help" him for long. He needs Christine and John, and they need Lindsey, because as many have said, Neil and Mike have priorities, and FM isn't one of them.

[button-lip]

I'd be so annoyed if Lindsey ever went back to a Stevie-involved Fleetwood Mac. Indeed, this would never happen.

However, I can envisage Stevie breaking from FM after this tour. Mike Campbell has his own thing to do. I think Neil Finn is just waiting to get out and do his own this as soon as possible. Thus, I can see Fleetwood Mac disbanding after this tour.

Mick will be sat idol twiddling his thumbs.
If Mick decides he cant wait 2 or 3 years for Stevie to come back to FM I can envisage him reaching out and apologising to Lindsey. I can see Mick seeking a Mick/John/Christine/Lindsey incarnation of the band (Mick:I cant make the same bucks as I can with Stevie, but it would still represent a decent income).

If this happens I'll feel bittersweet...
a) I'd be disappointed in Lindsey if he reconciled.
b) I'd be overwhelmingly happy if Lindsey reconciled.


I doubt they will ask Lindsey to rejoin. Not gonna happen.

He probably will be back if they ask him to. Maybe that changed after his heart surgery. Hard to tell since no one is talking.

Stevie won't leave FM. Ever. She swore she won't be the one to break up the band. And she kept her promise. She chose to fire Lindsey instead.

Mick worships the ground Stevie walks on. He won't betray her with Lindsey. None of them will betray her with Lindsey. They're a united front now.

[Dragon]

Fleetwood Mac needs to take time off and make and execute decisions to remain relevant. Mike Campbell has the Dirty Knobs and possibly the Heartbreakers. Neil Finn has a solo career and possibly Crowded House.

[ryan4136]

This will be the last official tour for the band. They won't announce it, but they'll take a break, and father time will finally catch up. We might see them play a show somewhere, but this will be it.

If they do what's left in 2019, and take 2020 away, by spring of 2021 look at what we have here....
Mick will be almost 74,
John will be 75
Stevie will be turning 73,
And Chris will be closing in on...78!!!

While we might see a 1 off, for a special occasion this is over soon folks.

[michelej1]

Chris 78. That is mind blowing.

[TrueFaith77]

Fleetwood Mac needs to take time off and make and execute decisions to remain relevant. Mike Campbell has the Dirty Knobs and possibly the Heartbreakers. Neil Finn has a solo career and possibly Crowded House.

I suspect there is a reason Mick didn't pick artists who would become full-time Mac members. All this "new" band talk is a lie.

It's the final cashgrab.

Glad Lindsey got some of his.

I'm not sorry I missed it (I would never pay to hear "Don't Dream It's Over--EVER), but I am truly sorry I didn't see the previous two tours because like a whiny baby I wanted a new album. But I saw Unleashed, which was great, and I saw BuckVie, which was lovely.

Here's hoping Lindsey gets better so I can still see one of them on tour in the future.

[secret love]

I suspect there is a reason Mick didn't pick artists who would become full-time Mac members. All this "new" band talk is a lie.

It's the final cashgrab.

Glad Lindsey got some of his.

I'm not sorry I missed it (I would never pay to hear "Don't Dream It's Over--EVER), but I am truly sorry I didn't see the previous two tours because like a whiny baby I wanted a new album. But I saw Unleashed, which was great, and I saw BuckVie, which was lovely.

Here's hoping Lindsey gets better so I can still see one of them on tour in the future.
They are full-time Mac members. Already. And they were chosen by the whole quartet, not just by Mick. Billy Burnette also auditioned but was not selected.
I disagree about it being the final cash grab, but if it is the final cash grab, how can Lindsey claim to be morally superior when he sued to get... you guessed it... his final cash grab?
Don't Dream It's Over is a beautiful song, regardless of whether it is performed by Crowded House or Fleetwood Mac.
I have only seen Fleetwood Mac once, in Sydney on the On With the Show tour. They were fantastic. I'd count yourself very lucky to have seen BuckVie. They didn't come to Australia, so I missed out.

[Feather Blade]

They are full-time Mac members. Already. And they were chosen by the whole quartet, not just by Mick. Billy Burnette also auditioned but was not selected.
I disagree about it being the final cash grab, but if it is the final cash grab, how can Lindsey claim to be morally superior when he sued to get... you guessed it... his final cash grab?
Don't Dream It's Over is a beautiful song, regardless of whether it is performed by Crowded House or Fleetwood Mac.
I have only seen Fleetwood Mac once, in Sydney on the On With the Show tour. They were fantastic. I'd count yourself very lucky to have seen BuckVie. They didn't come to Australia, so I missed out.

I remember seeing how much you hoped that they would make it down to Australia. Were you able to get tickets to any of the shows?

[cactusjack]

I suspect there is a reason Mick didn't pick artists who would become full-time Mac members. All this "new" band talk is a lie.

It's the final cashgrab.

Glad Lindsey got some of his.

I'm not sorry I missed it (I would never pay to hear "Don't Dream It's Over--EVER), but I am truly sorry I didn't see the previous two tours because like a whiny baby I wanted a new album. But I saw Unleashed, which was great, and I saw BuckVie, which was lovely.

Here's hoping Lindsey gets better so I can still see one of them on tour in the future.

so you've missed 3 tours of a rapidly aging band with a finite life left, just because they didn't do everything EXACTLY as you wanted? slow clap...

[bombaysaffires]

They are full-time Mac members. Already. And they were chosen by the whole quartet, not just by Mick. Billy Burnette also auditioned but was not selected.
I disagree about it being the final cash grab, but if it is the final cash grab, how can Lindsey claim to be morally superior when he sued to get... you guessed it... his final cash grab?
Don't Dream It's Over is a beautiful song, regardless of whether it is performed by Crowded House or Fleetwood Mac.
I have only seen Fleetwood Mac once, in Sydney on the On With the Show tour. They were fantastic. I'd count yourself very lucky to have seen BuckVie. They didn't come to Australia, so I missed out.

Lindsey sued to make a point. When someone screws you over, you don't just lie down and take it. He chose to hit them where it matters to them the most.

[secret love]

I remember seeing how much you hoped that they would make it down to Australia. Were you able to get tickets to any of the shows?
Maybe, there are some seats reserved by a website called Lane One which is linked to American Express but also has tickets available to non-cardholders.

I want to go to the first Sydney show. We shall see.

[secret love]

Lindsey sued to make a point. When someone screws you over, you don't just lie down and take it. He chose to hit them where it matters to them the most.
How childish, to feel the need "to make a point" by suing and engaging lawyers and buckets of your own money. :distress:
I thought he was better than that, and not all about money or getting revenge, him suing to me just shows he is on the same level as Stevie and Mick.

[jmn3]

How childish, to feel the need "to make a point" by suing and engaging lawyers and buckets of your own money. :distress:
I thought he was better than that, and not all about money or getting revenge, him suing to me just shows he is on the same level as Stevie and Mick.

It’s not childish at all. It’s a business, as so many have said. Mick chose Stevie over Lindsey because of business sense. This is what the narrative has been around here for a year plus. Lindsey clearly felt that the decision violated a contractual agreement that the band made to tour, including him. They settled to make it go away which indicates that they either felt he was right or that they didn’t have enough legally to disprove his assertions.

My God, the hypocrisy by so many around here (Lindsey is on the same level as Mick and Stevie....but Mick and Stevie just did what they did for the sake of the band) never ceases to amaze me.

[lovethemac1]

How childish, to feel the need "to make a point" by suing and engaging lawyers and buckets of your own money. :distress:
I thought he was better than that, and not all about money or getting revenge, him suing to me just shows he is on the same level as Stevie and Mick.

You want to talk childish? Stevie still wins for the most childish behaviour of all.

[secret love]

It’s not childish at all. It’s a business, as so many have said. Mick chose Stevie over Lindsey because of business sense. This is what the narrative has been around here for a year plus. Lindsey clearly felt that the decision violated a contractual agreement that the band made to tour, including him. They settled to make it go away which indicates that they either felt he was right or that they didn’t have enough legally to disprove his assertions.

My God, the hypocrisy by so many around here (Lindsey is on the same level as Mick and Stevie....but Mick and Stevie just did what they did for the sake of the band) never ceases to amaze me.
Don't verbal me. Don't misrepresent my position. No, they did not do it for the sake of the band. But no, they did not do it for the sake of the money, either. They would have made even more money if they stuck with Lindsey, don't you think?

Look at the setlist this time around. Blues band hits and rarities. Cover songs. Isn't it Midnight. Lindsey purportedly did not want to do blues songs. And a lot of fans including myself wanted to hear him sing the blues songs of Fleetwood Mac's founder.

The band changed to change the setlist and to stay relevant. Ok, no new music, and that for one is a monetary decision.

[BigAl84]

The band changed to change the setlist and to stay relevant.


LOL please tell me this is sarcasm, right?

Most of the interesting things they added to the set have since been taken off the set.

Fleetwood Mac is way more relevant now that they are covering Tom Petty with a member of the Heartbreakers and Crowded House singing Lindsey Buckingham tunes....riiiiiggghht.

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[jmn3]

Don't verbal me. Don't misrepresent my position. No, they did not do it for the sake of the band. But no, they did not do it for the sake of the money, either. They would have made even more money if they stuck with Lindsey, don't you think?

Look at the setlist this time around. Blues band hits and rarities. Cover songs. Isn't it Midnight. Lindsey purportedly did not want to do blues songs. And a lot of fans including myself wanted to hear him sing the blues songs of Fleetwood Mac's founder.

The band changed to change the setlist and to stay relevant. Ok, no new music, and that for one is a monetary decision.

Okay....what? I don't even follow any of this. But..

They took the most interesting parts of the new setlist and got rid of them. Stevie bastardizing Black Magic Woman is a big shrug moment for me. You mention Isn't it Midnight - which was replaced with the far more well known Hold Me. Neil sounded fantastic on Hypnotized. That lasted long... Don't Dream It's Over and Free Fallin' in a Fleetwood Mac setlist are simply appalling.

[jeets2000]

Look at the setlist this time around. Blues band hits and rarities. Cover songs. Isn't it Midnight. Lindsey purportedly did not want to do blues songs. And a lot of fans including myself wanted to hear him sing the blues songs of Fleetwood Mac's founder.

The band changed to change the setlist and to stay relevant. Ok, no new music, and that for one is a monetary decision.

I triple checked the date on this post to make sure I wasn't somehow in a VERY old thread...

Okay....what? I don't even follow any of this. But..

They took the most interesting parts of the new setlist and got rid of them. Stevie bastardizing Black Magic Woman is a big shrug moment for me. You mention Isn't it Midnight - which was replaced with the far more well known Hold Me. Neil sounded fantastic on Hypnotized. That lasted long... Don't Dream It's Over and Free Fallin' in a Fleetwood Mac setlist are simply appalling.

^^^All of this is spot on.

[TheWildHeart67]

I hope this is the last tour. It's time.

[dontlookdown]

I doubt they will ask Lindsey to rejoin. Not gonna happen.

He probably will be back if they ask him to. Maybe that changed after his heart surgery. Hard to tell since no one is talking.

Stevie won't leave FM. Ever. She swore she won't be the one to break up the band. And she kept her promise. She chose to fire Lindsey instead.

Mick worships the ground Stevie walks on. He won't betray her with Lindsey. None of them will betray her with Lindsey. They're a united front now.

Stevie Nicks broke up Fleetwood Mac as we knew them. Despite what she wants to believe, she killed the band.

Based on what i've heard from a few music people in LA, this tour is a one-off situation and there is no intention to continue FM with Mike and Neil. I think they're done and I think they're aware that this is the public perception. It's almost as if they decided to go out with negative drama, instead of on a high note.

[Storms123]

Stevie Nicks broke up Fleetwood Mac as we knew them. Despite what she wants to believe, she killed the band.

Based on what i've heard from a few music people in LA, this tour is a one-off situation and there is no intention to continue FM with Mike and Neil. I think they're done and I think they're aware that this is the public perception. It's almost as if they decided to go out with negative drama, instead of on a high note.

Interesting, and not at all surprising. Mike is also in the studio with the Dirty Knobs. New music and planning a tour in 2020. I would expect Stevie would go out solo next year. Neil probably has gotten a little surge in popularity so perhaps some new stuff from CH? That leaves John, Christine and Mick.......there's an irony here. #KARMA

[michelej1]

That leaves John, Christine and Mick.......there's an irony here. #KARMA

They'll be wandering around in orange groves looking for another California couple.

Tee, you have broken my heart. You made me love when you could see into the future and always knew that it would burn to the ground.

[michelej1]

Stevie Nicks broke up Fleetwood Mac as we knew them. Despite what she wants to believe, she killed the band.

Based on what i've heard from a few music people in LA, this tour is a one-off situation and there is no intention to continue FM with Mike and Neil. I think they're done and I think they're aware that this is the public perception. It's almost as if they decided to go out with negative drama, instead of on a high note.

Hard to believe Mick is resigned to leaving the "Farewell" money on the table.

[dontlookdown]

True, but I honestly don't think they have what it takes to mount another big tour.
Chris's voice is shot for touring, and who knows how much energy John has left in him.
I think it's a done deal.
Had things gone differently, next year would probably be when Lindsey and Stevie could have put together a Buckingham Nicks reissue project -- but that'll never happen now.

[Murrow]

Interesting, and not at all surprising. Mike is also in the studio with the Dirty Knobs. New music and planning a tour in 2020. I would expect Stevie would go out solo next year. Neil probably has gotten a little surge in popularity so perhaps some new stuff from CH? That leaves John, Christine and Mick.......there's an irony here. #KARMA

New stuff from CH? Chance would be a fine thing. Neil has zero enthusiasm for that band now. He says the more people say they want new CH stuff the more he just wants to record with his wife and sons. Frustrating for me as I've never gotten into his work solo or with family or his endless charity and collaborative endeavours.

[elle]

New stuff from CH? Chance would be a fine thing. Neil has zero enthusiasm for that band now. He says the more people say they want new CH stuff the more he just wants to record with his wife and sons. Frustrating for me as I've never gotten into his work solo or with family or his endless charity and collaborative endeavours.

i have no idea whether that means anything, but he did say in that AUS interview that CH is just waiting for him, like an old car parked in the garage up the street, that he might take out for a spin now when he's a bit more known because of the mac stint. he said that in response to question whether he sees any expiration date on his tenure with FM (or something like that) and he basically said they are all old so he doesn't expect much from them.

[Storms123]

i have no idea whether that means anything, but he did say in that AUS interview that CH is just waiting for him, like an old car parked in the garage up the street, that he might take out for a spin now when he's a bit more known because of the mac stint. he said that in response to question whether he sees any expiration date on his tenure with FM (or something like that) and he basically said they are all old so he doesn't expect much from them.

And we've found MF's next gig--lead drummer for CH. Or the Finn Family Band

[BombaySapphire3]

And we've found MF's next gig--lead drummer for CH. Or the Finn Family Band

Ugh.. I actually like Crowded House and have their most recent albums. Guess I won't be buying the next one if that slimy old MFer is on it .