This deserves it's own thread..Dlisted!

[secondhandchain]

http://dlisted.com/2019/02/10/lindsey-buckingham-had-emergency-open-heart-surgery-which-messed-up-his-vocal-cords/#more-325045
This guy kind of nails it. Those last two paragraphs :) David you are going to LOVE this.

Lindsey Buckingham Had Emergency Open Heart Surgery Which Messed Up His Vocal Cords
February 10, 2019

Fleetwood Mac ditched a sizable chunk off the lineup of their glory days of the 1970s and 80s when they unceremoniously dumped Lindsey Buckingham from the group ahead of their tour this past Fall. Lindsey turned around and sued the remaining members of Fleetwood Mac for $12 million claiming potential lost wages from the tour. Both sides eventually settled on a figure, but the battle must’ve caused a helluva lot of stress on Lindsey, because he just went through emergency open heart surgery that has damaged his vocal cords. It’s uncertain if he will recover.


Lindsey’s wife Kristen Buckingham posted the news on her Instagram page, noting that Lindsey’s father and brother passed away from heart related issues at the ages of 56 and 46. Lindsey is 69.

It’s probable that the real cause of Lindsey’s problems are due to the pin pricked doll made from his hair (stolen from his silver brush in the late 1960s), and flickering black candles lining the goat blood pentagram in Stevie Nicks‘ attic, freshly laid out around the time he sued the band and a little after those accusations of him abusing her made it into a book. Stevie probably pre-recorded the incarnations on an old tape recorder to save her own vocals for tour, which may have weakened the spell a bit because he still got his cut of their tour money. But Stevie did post a statement, a pretty basic one, about Lindsey’s health scare on Instagram. I can practically taste the blood from the band’s teeth gritting and biting their tongues through having to type this statement.


Perhaps they posted it on Stevie’s Instagram because the Fleetwood Mac Instagram is full of photos of the new lineup sans Lindsey featuring Neil Finn and Mike Campbell and they didn’t want him to suffer any future heart palpitations from his angry eyeballs jumping over the page.

[HomerMcvie]

I love it. He must really know the hateful old goat!:wavey:

[michelej1]

I have noticed that most people who only follow the band casually still believe the delaying the tour story.

[cbBen]

Which even if true shouldn't fly, given 2:22-3:08 of www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEXglFYtGCk:

“Fleetwood Mac [had planned to go out this year but now] is going out next year.... I kind of put them on hold. I mean, I made this record. That was a year. Then I toured last year–off and on all last year–and did lots and lots of press. And then I decided to take this year also to tour all summer, because I did not feel that this record was finished. And so it did not make Fleetwood Mac happy but I said to them, ‘I’m taking 2012 for In Your Dreams. I’m sorry. And if you can’t understand that in your heart–how important this is to me–then I’m sorry, but I’m doing it, and I will see you in 2013.'”–Stevie Nicks 2012

I understand she rightly has more pull in the band, and that's a key difference. Fine. Then say something to that effect.

But don't say bs like 3:20-3:41 of www.youtube.com/watch?v=346fynuN-b4:

"This team wanted to get out on the road, and one of the members did not want to go out on the road for a year.” “We just couldn’t agree and, you know, when you’re in a band it’s a team. I mean, I have a solo career and I love my solo career. And I’m the boss, absolutely – but I’m not the boss in this band.”–Stevie Nicks 2018

[jeets2000]

Thanks for putting that stuff together like that CbBen. I haven't seen these quotes back to back like this before, but I work at a research organization, and this is exactly how we lay out our facts... provides a really stark contrast when they're side by side like this. And of course, the word of the year, frustrating.

[cbBen]

"I’m sorry, but I’m doing it."–not the boss

[sodascouts]

Which even if true shouldn't fly, given 2:22-3:08 of www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEXglFYtGCk:

“Fleetwood Mac [had planned to go out this year but now] is going out next year.... I kind of put them on hold. I mean, I made this record. That was a year. Then I toured last year–off and on all last year–and did lots and lots of press. And then I decided to take this year also to tour all summer, because I did not feel that this record was finished. And so it did not make Fleetwood Mac happy but I said to them, ‘I’m taking 2012 for In Your Dreams. I’m sorry. And if you can’t understand that in your heart–how important this is to me–then I’m sorry, but I’m doing it, and I will see you in 2013.'”–Stevie Nicks 2012

I understand she rightly has more pull in the band, and that's a key difference. Fine. Then say something to that effect.

But don't say bs like 3:20-3:41 of www.youtube.com/watch?v=346fynuN-b4:

"This team wanted to get out on the road, and one of the members did not want to go out on the road for a year.” “We just couldn’t agree and, you know, when you’re in a band it’s a team. I mean, I have a solo career and I love my solo career. And I’m the boss, absolutely – but I’m not the boss in this band.”–Stevie Nicks 2018

Does she even recognize her own hypocrisy? She makes the latter statement so brazenly, without a trace of hesitation and a completely earnest expression.... either she believes her own BS or she is a very accomplished liar without a sense of shame.

[cbBen]

Does she even recognize her own hypocrisy? She makes the latter statement so brazenly, without a trace of hesitation and a completely earnest expression.... either she believes her own BS or she is a very accomplished liar without a sense of shame.

The 2018 answer is to a question she expected, probably following some PR prep. The 2012 answer is to an off-topic question during a fan Q&A for her movie – a less guarded moment.

[button-lip]

"I’m sorry, but I’m doing it."–not the boss

That's my favorite one! :laugh::laugh:

My best friend, who only knows random things about the band, finds it really hard to believe she's the boss. After what happened last year, she's now convinced.

[g. fish]

I have noticed that most people who only follow the band casually still believe the delaying the tour story.

So true. They also believe that...

1) The band sounds better than ever. I wonder how many of these casual fans are seeing their first FM show?

2) Lindsey was an egomaniac. We all know that Stevie has the biggest ego of all. In reality, Lindsey was driven by his quest for perfection, not by a strong ego.

3) Stevie was the victim, but now she's twirling into the sunset for the next ten years.


Never going back again.

[singertobe]

Did Stevie really say something on her Instagram?

[cbBen]

She posted the text of Fleetwood Mac's tweet: https://www.instagram.com/p/Bto6NXhjGV3/

[button-lip]

She posted the text of Fleetwood Mac's tweet: https://www.instagram.com/p/Bto6NXhjGV3/

Wow! I'm touched. :confused::confused:

So, this is probably the most we're gonna get from the woman that have known Lindsey for the past 50+ years, and wasn't showing any signs of discomfort near him until the day she fired him.

It's really hard to explain and/or justify her current behavior. It was already hard to justify her reasons to fire him, but this? If her ONLY problem with Lindsey was his desire to delay the FM tour, isn't acting cold towards his health condition a bit too much?

She's only showing her true colors, and giving her fans a tough job into justifying their Queen. She was probably NOT expecting that her little tantrum from last year will end up in Lindsey on a hospital bed. :(

[SteveMacD]

That wasn’t exactly the same situation, though. Stevie wasn’t ready to stop touring an album that was already released, but more importantly wasn’t ready to come back to Fleetwood Mac after the death of her mom. Hell, Christine basically quit touring for 23 years after her dad passed away, so a one year delay was inconsequential by comparison. It was also seven years ago, before John had a cancer scare and before the eldest member returned.

Stevie’s comments on CBS were outrageous, but when haven’t they been in the past two decades? Although, Lindsey admitted to requesting a delay at the late November/early December, 2017 meeting, where the band “stonewalled” on the issue. Personally, I think Lindsey was toast going into that meeting.

[cbBen]

Wow! I'm touched. :confused::confused:

So, this is probably the most we're gonna get from the woman that have known Lindsey for the past 50+ years, and wasn't showing any signs of discomfort near him until the day she fired him.

It's really hard to explain and/or justify her current behavior. It was already hard to justify her reasons to fire him, but this? If her ONLY problem with Lindsey was his desire to delay the FM tour, isn't acting cold towards his health condition a bit too much?

She's only showing her true colors, and giving her fans a tough job into justifying their Queen. She was probably NOT expecting that her little tantrum from last year will end up in Lindsey on a hospital bed. :(

A $12 million lawsuit, however justified, is a declaration of war.

[button-lip]

A $12 million lawsuit, however justified, is a declaration of war.

Hmmm, I thought the declaration of war was her decision to fire him….

[sleepless child]

Very interesting that it's ok for Stevie to say well, my album is important and I'm taking as long as I want to tour with it and I don't care if Fleetwood Mac is ready to tour. Tough. I'm doing my own thing for a year and you can suck it.

But Lindsey asks for the same thing and he is thrown to the wolves. And so he decides to not do his own thing and tour with the group and he is still out.

Stevie will not go onstage with him ever again. Something happened between the two of them last fall. I'm sure down the road we will get more of the story, but It just keeps showing me that this group of people are seriously flawed.

There was no reason for Lindsey to be let go. It had to be some terrible fight between he and Stevie and not the BS we got about smirking at Musicares. Something big went down. Maybe it wasn't PC for Lindsey to say that Stevie might be jealous of his family, but maybe it's not so far off from the truth.

[David]

So true. They also believe that...

1) The band sounds better than ever.That's constantly trotted out like press agent copy from an old issue of Variety. I know it's a nonquantifiable, largely nondemonstrable cliche. But I despise it because it shuts down conversation about something that could and should be talked about.

[cbBen]

Hmmm, I thought the declaration of war was her decision to fire him….

Call it return fire then. In any case, a full-scale war was on.

[bombaysaffires]

A $12 million lawsuit, however justified, is a declaration of war.

If you are trying to say it's Lindsey's fault, the lawsuit was a return punch for the sucker punch they gave him first.

And that's BUSINESS.

Don't ever kid yourself....Stevie's team (Howard Kaufman, Azoff, Sheryl Louis) played mega hardball over things like demanding bigger and bigger shares of money for her all along, bigger and better ($$$) perks for her (paid for out of the gross, not out of her personal cut) etc etc.... so why should it be wrong for Lindsey and his team to sue for what's rightfully his?

A lawsuit is business. Personal relationships are personal.

Remember, this is a woman whose team got her a Rolling Stone cover on her OWN during a BAND TOUR. And she was totally fine with it.

[cbBen]

If you are trying to say it's Lindsey's fault, the lawsuit was a return punch for the sucker punch they gave him first.

No, that's not what I was trying to say (note the inclusion of "however justified"). I would have sued too.

[sodascouts]

Stevie wasn’t ready to stop touring an album that was already released, but more importantly wasn’t ready to come back to Fleetwood Mac after the death of her mom.
Does she say that it was due to the death of her mom elsewhere? Because in that interview, she does not. There, she explicitly states that the delay was due to her desire to dedicate more time to In Your Dreams.

Did you not read the quote? I will post it again for you:

“Fleetwood Mac [had planned to go out this year but now] is going out next year.... I kind of put them on hold. I mean, I made this record. That was a year. Then I toured last year–off and on all last year–and did lots and lots of press. And then I decided to take this year also to tour all summer, because I did not feel that this record was finished. And so it did not make Fleetwood Mac happy but I said to them, ‘I’m taking 2012 for In Your Dreams. I’m sorry. And if you can’t understand that in your heart–how important this is to me–then I’m sorry, but I’m doing it, and I will see you in 2013.'”–Stevie Nicks 2012

[Newzchspy]

A $12 million lawsuit, however justified, is a declaration of war.
No it's not. It's just business ( and money).....

[Newzchspy]

If you are trying to say it's Lindsey's fault, the lawsuit was a return punch for the sucker punch they gave him first.

And that's BUSINESS.

Don't ever kid yourself....Stevie's team (Howard Kaufman, Azoff, Sheryl Louis) played mega hardball over things like demanding bigger and bigger shares of money for her all along, bigger and better ($$$) perks for her (paid for out of the gross, not out of her personal cut) etc etc.... so why should it be wrong for Lindsey and his team to sue for what's rightfully his?

A lawsuit is business. Personal relationships are personal.

Remember, this is a woman whose team got her a Rolling Stone cover on her OWN during a BAND TOUR. And she was totally fine with it.
Yes, you're correct, it's business and money is money.

However, don't be deluded into thinking that people do not take lawsuits personally, as they do. For some, it haunts them for life. There's an emotional involvement to being sued. It's the ultimate FU to the recipient.

[michelej1]

Wow! I'm touched. :confused::confused:

So, this is probably the most we're gonna get from the woman that have known Lindsey for the past 50+ years, and wasn't showing any signs of discomfort near him until the day she fired him.

It's really hard to explain and/or justify her current behavior. It was already hard to justify her reasons to fire him, but this? If her ONLY problem with Lindsey was his desire to delay the FM tour, isn't acting cold towards his health condition a bit too much?

She's only showing her true colors, and giving her fans a tough job into justifying their Queen. She was probably NOT expecting that her little tantrum from last year will end up in Lindsey on a hospital bed. :(

I am just glad they spelled his name right. They could have played the Lindsay card.

[bombaysaffires]

Yes, you're correct, it's business and money is money.

However, don't be deluded into thinking that people do not take lawsuits personally, as they do. For some, it haunts them for life. There's an emotional involvement to being sued. It's the ultimate FU to the recipient.

and in this case I'd agree with you if he'd hit them with the lawsuit unprovoked. But here I think the firing was the ultimate FU to the recipient, who then felt compelled to defend himself with a lawsuit.

[Jondalar]

You know she wants him dead.

[singertobe]

Wow! I'm touched. :confused::confused:

So, this is probably the most we're gonna get from the woman that have known Lindsey for the past 50+ years, and wasn't showing any signs of discomfort near him until the day she fired him.

It's really hard to explain and/or justify her current behavior. It was already hard to justify her reasons to fire him, but this? If her ONLY problem with Lindsey was his desire to delay the FM tour, isn't acting cold towards his health condition a bit too much?

She's only showing her true colors, and giving her fans a tough job into justifying their Queen. She was probably NOT expecting that her little tantrum from last year will end up in Lindsey on a hospital bed. :(

And to think she was once in love with the guy. I wonder what her younger self would have to say if she saw their future.

[elle]

You know she wants him dead.

please stop saying that.