Stevie Nicks gets 2nd in the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame fan vote. Will she be inducted?

[Jondalar]

The fan vote is over

1. Def Leppard
2. Stevie Nicks
3. Todd Rundgren
4. The Zombies
5. The Cure

Janet Jackson finished 6th.

I still am still very doubtful she gets in, especially because she is already in and the controversy with the Lindsey firing. Todd Rundgren was slowly catching up to her.

[Fannymac]

She and Def Leppard are shoo-ins....the Top Two have gotten in four of the five last years.
Plus, the Hall is VERY aware that the lack of female inductees is still a VERY big problem (one of the reasons I think you'll also see Janet inducted).
And the press that would be garnered over the first female to be inducted twice could only benefit the Hall!
(And while he did cut her lead by about 10,000 votes in the last week, Stevie was still more than 60,000 votes ahead of Todd!).

[Jondalar]

She and Def Leppard are shoo-ins....the Top Two have gotten in four of the five last years.
Plus, the Hall is VERY aware that the lack of female inductees is still a VERY big problem (one of the reasons I think you'll also see Janet inducted).
And the press that would be garnered over the first female to be inducted twice could only benefit the Hall!
(And while he did cut her lead by about 10,000 votes in the last week, Stevie was still more than 60,000 votes ahead of Todd!).

I was voting for her faithfully until about 3 weeks ago when we got more news about Lindsey. I know that controversy hurt her.

I don’t think she is a shoe in and I doubt many care if she is a woman. I’ve read too many articles and watched too many videos about particular to believe that. If she gets in, she will be extremely lucky.

[Feather Blade]

Anything can happen, but I would be very surprised if she doesn't get in. This honor is based on her body of solo work and she deserves it. The firing of Lindsey will make no difference whatsoever to the vast majority of the general public.

[Jondalar]

Anything can happen, but I would be very surprised if she doesn't get in. This honor is based on her body of solo work and she deserves it. The firing of Lindsey will make no difference whatsoever to the vast majority of the general public.

The general public doesn’t vote. Industry insiders vote and they do pay attention.

[Fannymac]

Stevie has been a very good friend to the Hall....that will be remembered.
Plus, she has a number of good friends on the voting panel, starting with Dave Grohl, who will no doubt campaign for her induction.

[Feather Blade]

The general public doesn’t vote. Industry insiders vote and they do pay attention.

And they should be voting on the basis of her solo efforts only, correct? Personnel changes of an entity not related to solo work should have no bearing.

[Jondalar]

We will find out this Thursday if she gets in.

[Feather Blade]

We will find out this Thursday if she gets in.

Yes, and you may very well be right. We'll soon know.

[Storms123]

And they should be voting on the basis of her solo efforts only, correct? Personnel changes of an entity not related to solo work should have no bearing.

Totally agree, based on the merits of her work and the imprint she has left, and will continue to leave on the industry, she deserves it

[FM77]

That is a lock.

[Jondalar]

That is a lock.

If you say so...

[bwboy]

And they should be voting on the basis of her solo efforts only, correct? Personnel changes of an entity not related to solo work should have no bearing.

Excellent point, Feather Blade- can't argue with that one!

Mike drop :]

[Jondalar]

And they should be voting on the basis of her solo efforts only, correct? Personnel changes of an entity not related to solo work should have no bearing.

You are forgetting that many people have a stronger solo career than Nicks, including Pat Benatar who has never even been nominated. People keep making comparisons when they complain about Stevie being nominated because it’s not Stevie’s solo career that makes her more worthy than Pat or others, it is the total body of work and Stevie is already in the Hall. It doesn’t seem fair to a lot of Ripley.

[bwboy]

You are forgetting that many people have a stronger solo career than Nicks, including Pat Benatar who has never even been nominated. People keep making comparisons when they complain about Stevie being nominated because it’s not Stevie’s solo career that makes her more worthy than Pat or others, it is the total body of work and Stevie is already in the Hall. It doesn’t seem fair to a lot of Ripley.

I like Pat Benatar a lot, I think she's underrated. However, I don't think an argument can really be made that Stevie shouldn't be in the HoF because someone else isn't, you know what I mean? And I'm not sure that Pat has or had a stronger solo career than Stevie, either. Steve's last 3 albums charted pretty high, much much higher than any of Pat's in the last decade.

When I think of other women in similar situations as Stevie- in a group and solo, there's Belinda Carlisle and the Go-Go's, Beyonce and Destiny's Child, and Diana Ross and the Supremes are the only ones I can think of right away, and Stevie is the only one who still juggles both successfully. I don't know, I think that gives her an edge.

[cbBen]

Listen to Buckingham Nicks and tell me she doesn't belong. As a writer, she carries that album. Pet Benatar never wrote like that. No one did.

[secondhandchain]

Listen to Buckingham Nicks and tell me she doesn't belong. As a writer, she carries that album. Pet Benatar never wrote like that. No one did.

Yeah because Lindsey is a wall flower on that album. LMFAO. She doesn't deserve to be in it after what she's done. BTW Buckingham Nicks is a DUET THAT is not included in her body of work. Her first two albums were good then she went WAY down hill. Are you proud of your girl now? BUCKINGHAM: I did this thing with Christine last year, which was actually a really nice album. We had a ball taking it out on the road. Initially, the idea was that maybe we do a Fleetwood Mac album. She was still not in the band, but Mick and John and I had gone in with Mitchell Froom and cut some songs. So a few of the things of mine were already there, and of course when we got to that point and tried to engage Stevie in that idea, she didn’t want to do it.

STEREOGUM: Didn’t want to do an album?

BUCKINGHAM: No. And I’m the one who gets fired, right?

STEREOGUM: I read you haven’t spoken to any of them since then.

BUCKINGHAM: I haven’t spoken to any of them. Once we signed some papers a few weeks ago, I did hear from Christine in an email, as I expected to. I know Mick would probably like to, but I think he’s too embarrassed and just a little too weak-willed to do it. I won’t hear from Stevie because it was all her trip anyway. Again, I just have to forgive them because it’s really just Stevie being so needy for a certain kind of attention and maybe not wanting to compete with the vitality that I have.

[BombaySapphire3]

You are forgetting that many people have a stronger solo career than Nicks, including Pat Benatar who has never even been nominated. People keep making comparisons when they complain about Stevie being nominated because it’s not Stevie’s solo career that makes her more worthy than Pat or others, it is the total body of work and Stevie is already in the Hall. It doesn’t seem fair to a lot of Ripley.

I'm not being an apologist for Stevie .Her recent behavior is reprehensible . Pat Benatar has not had a top ten album since 1982 and not one of her albums is as stellar as Bella Donna.However Stevie's body of work as a solo artist does not compare well with Radiohead and Roxy and they are not even getting in . Stevie for better or worse will be inducted in 2019.

[SteveMacD]

I’m betting she gets in as a solo artist.

Stevie is considerably more important/relevant to the history of rock than Pat Benatar. Need I remind everyone here about the jokes everyone made about the REO Speedwagon/Fleetwood Mac/Pat Benatar tour in 1995?

[BombaySapphire3]

I’m betting she gets in as a solo artist.

Stevie is considerably more important/relevant to the history of rock than Pat Benatar. Need I remind everyone here about the jokes everyone made about the REO Speedwagon/Fleetwood Mac/Pat Benatar tour in 1995?

Agreed ..Benatar was big for a few years and then she wasn't .She is kind of like the Helen Reddy of early '80s arena rock.

[MikeInNV]

I think Pat deserves to be in and believe that she will be someday, but she has not had the cultural impact Stevie has, not even close.

And who develops the initial list of potential nominees anyway? Don't many of the same people who vote for induction have a hand in shaping the initial list from which the inductees are eventually selected? If so, and they haven't even nominated Pat, they can't feel too bad about voting Stevie in ahead of her.

And as far as the whole Lindsey issue is concerned, as TheWildHeart67 so aptly pointed out in another thread, not that many people outside the Ledge are that worked up about it. And even if they were, controversy and drama like that fuels rock and roll. There are plenty of bands already inducted with that kind of animosity in their ranks. Anyone remember Blondie's induction?

I'm not 100% certain she will get in. Many people have had to be nominated multiple times. But if she doesn't, it won't be because of the Lindsey thing.

[Jondalar]

I'm not being an apologist for Stevie .Her recent behavior is reprehensible . Pat Benatar has not had a top ten album since 1982 and not one of her albums is as stellar as Bella Donna.However Stevie's body of work as a solo artist does not compare well with Radiohead and Roxy and they are not even getting in . Stevie for better or worse will be inducted in 2019.

Pat did sell more solo albums than Stevie and she had more Top 40 hits. She has won a Grammy and she is a great singer, which are reasons why people always cite her. However, she is more a product than Stevie. She is not much of a writer and she never seemed that involved in the music part of it.

[bwboy]

I think Pat deserves to be in and believe that she will be someday, but she has not had the cultural impact Stevie has, not even close.

And as far as the whole Lindsey issue is concerned, as TheWildHeart67 so aptly pointed out in another thread, not that many people outside the Ledge are that worked up about it. And even if they were, controversy and drama like that fuels rock and roll. There are plenty of bands already inducted with that kind of animosity in their ranks. Anyone remember Blondie's induction?

Agreed- hopefully Pat Benatar will be nominated and inducted sometime.

But MikeInNV, what's this about animosity at Blondie's induction? I am way out of the loop- what happened?

[Nick]

She definitely deserves to be in there. The way anyone treated poor LB means nothing to the voters. Get over it already. It’s old news.

[DownOnRodeo]

She definitely deserves to be in there.

If the Hall is an actual room that can be locked up, then yes.

[jbrownsjr]

If the Hall is an actual room that can be locked up, then yes.

Put her in the Iron Maiden. :shocked:

[cbBen]

BTW Buckingham Nicks is a DUET THAT is not included in her body of work.

So is "Stop Draggin' My Heart Around": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UD0c58nNCQ

[DownOnRodeo]

Put her in the Iron Maiden. :shocked:

You're on a roll!

[MikeInNV]

But MikeInNV, what's this about animosity at Blondie's induction? I am way out of the loop- what happened?

When Blondie reformed in the late 90s, a couple of members from their heyday were not invited back, which led to a lawsuit. Wounds were still fresh when they all got on stage together to be inducted, and words were exchanged for all to see and hear.

[Jondalar]

When Blondie reformed in the late 90s, a couple of members from their heyday were not invited back, which led to a lawsuit. Wounds were still fresh when they all got on stage together to be inducted, and words were exchanged for all to see and hear.

Here is the link to Blondie’s screwed up acceptance speech. Watch the ending.
https://youtu.be/M_bY7t06haY

[cbBen]

Chocolate and vanilla and all that, but how you induct Blondie but not Stevie Nicks is a mystery to me.

Long ago, someone predicted with the relative dearth of new talent coming along (unlike in sports) the standard for induction would get progressively lower as time went on.

[bwboy]

MikeInNV and Jondalar, thanks for the info and link. Wow, that was hard to watch, but Debbie and the others handled it very well.

[SteveMacD]

Does anyone think less of Blondie and their legacy because of that?

Asking for a friend.

[bwboy]

Does anyone think less of Blondie and their legacy because of that?

Asking for a friend.

:laugh: You're funny, SteveMacD. But you make a good point. As whacked out as that induction speech was, and the turmoil surrounding the comings and goings of various members, it doesn't affect Blondie's legacy in any way. At the end of the day, it's all about the music.

I love Blondie, btw. Dreaming, Hanging on the Telephone, Call Me, Atomic, In the Flesh, the Tide is High, Maria, and so many other great songs!

[Jondalar]

Tomorrow, Thursday, December 13th at 8am is when they are announcing who made it. She will need all the magic she can muster.

[BombaySapphire3]

Tomorrow, Thursday, December 13th at 8am is when they are announcing who made it. She will need all the magic she can muster.

Nah ..she is going to get in.The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame voters don't care about her most recent bitchery.

[Keith]

I guess we will find out tomorrow if Stevie is inducted in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame as a solo artist.

Of course, as a big fan, I hope she makes it. But if she doesn't I will be ok with it. I mean, she is in the Fame as a member of Fleetwood Mac where her best work is located.

I did vote for Stevie on the fan site, but I also voted for Todd Rundgren each time I voted for Stevie because he really deserves to be in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. And I personally would rather he get in over Stevie if it comes down to the both of them. I mean Stevie is already in as a Fleetwood Mac member and will probably make it eventually as a solo artist. Go Stevie. AND GO TODD! "Hello it's me.. I thought about us for a long, long time.. Maybe I think too much but something's wrong.. There's something here doesn't last too long.."

[Jondalar]

I guess we will find out tomorrow if Stevie is inducted in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame as a solo artist.

Of course, as a big fan, I hope she makes it. But if she doesn't I will be ok with it. I mean, she is in the Fame as a member of Fleetwood Mac where her best work is located.

I did vote for Stevie on the fan site, but I also voted for Todd Rundgren each time I voted for Stevie because he really deserves to be in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. And I personally would rather he get in over Stevie if it comes down to the both of them. I mean Stevie is already in as a Fleetwood Mac member and will probably make it eventually as a solo artist. Go Stevie. AND GO TODD! "Hello it's me.. I thought about us for a long, long time.. Maybe I think too much but something's wrong.. There's something here doesn't last too long.."

I voted for Todd too. He definitely deserves to be in there. He is a no brainer.