People Magazine quotes from Lindsey's CBS Sunday Morning Buckingham interview

[vivfox]

Lindsey Buckingham is claiming that Stevie Nicks had a large part in his exit from Fleetwood Mac.

In his first television interview since being fired in the spring, Buckingham, 69, opened up about why he believes he was ousted from the band decades after he was asked to join in December 1974.

“It appeared to me that she was looking for something to hang on me, in order to instigate some kind of coup,” he tells CBS This Morning: Saturday, adding that he first learned of the trouble when the band’s manager Irving Azoff called him and told him that Nicks was furious at him.

“Irving told me – a couple of days later – that she’d given the band an ultimatum, and either I had to go or she was going to go,” he recalls.

Buckingham first joined the band in December 1974 at the request of drummer Mick Fleetwood. “Mick actually asked me to join first,” Buckingham told PEOPLE last year. “And I said, ‘Well, you’ve gotta take my girlfriend too.’”

The girlfriend in question was Nicks, who became the band’s bewitching front-woman and creative powerhouse during the group’s mid-’70s glory years. Nicks and Buckingham’s tumultuous personal life inspired what would become the band’s most famous album, the chart-busting Rumours, which remains one of the best-selling albums of all time. Buckingham previously told a similar anecdote about his conversation with Azoff. In October, the musician quoted a message from Azoff, telling Rolling Stone: “Stevie never wants to be on a stage with you again.” In the same interview, Buckingham said Azoff told him that he was “getting ousted” and that Nicks gave the rest of the band “an ultimatum: Either you go or she’s gonna go.”

Also during the CBS sit-down, Buckingham says he has yet to talk directly with anyone in Fleetwood Mac. “I actually have not spoken to any of the band. And it’s been almost a year now,” he shares. “Nobody. I have had, only in the last couple of weeks, I have gotten an email, which I expected to get, from Christine McVie,” he says of the songwriter and keyboardist, with whom he released an album in 2017.

Buckingham’s first TV interview comes nearly two months after he leveled a lawsuit against his former Fleetwood Mac bandmates following his sudden dismissal. In the suit, filed in October in Los Angeles Superior Court and obtained by PEOPLE, the guitarist accused his ex-band of seven offenses, including breach of fiduciary duty, breach of oral contract and intentional interference with prospective economic advantage.

In the suit, Buckingham claims that he had signed on for a 2-year run of 60 shows with Fleetwood Mac, for a fee of $14 million. However, he says he requested that they postpone their 2018 dates three months to allow him to tour with his solo band; a request that was apparently refused.

Buckingham explains he rescheduled his solo trek, only to be notified of his termination from the group shortly before the tour announcement.

“Fleetwood Mac strongly disputes the allegations presented in Mr. Buckingham’s complaint and looks forward to their day in court,” the band’s publicist Kristen Foster said in a statement to PEOPLE at the time. “The band has retained Dan Petrocelli to handle the case.”

Buckingham’s spot would ultimately be filled by Mike Campbell — formerly of Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers — and Neil Finn.

Buckingham’s interview with CBS This Morning: Saturday airs Dec. 8.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/music/news/lindsey-buckingham-says-stevie-nicks-gave-fleetwood-mac-an-ultimatum-he-goes-or-i-go/ar-BBQEsdG?li=BBnb7Kz

[sodascouts]

It sounds like this interview will be worth a watch!

[Nicks Fan]

Social media will be very active tomorrow once this airs. I still maintain the reason she didn't want to make a new album had nothing to do with him but the fact that while he and Christine had new material she had nothing to offer but likely some old demos. So she declined to participate and when they released the music without her she was angry and decided to get even. If he had truly done something awful they should have said it from day 1 and they never did. If you have to fire him behind Christine's back and essentially convince her and John to go along with it then you know you are doing something shady.

Sad to say I have lost so much respect for them.

[Macfan4life]

This interview was front page on the msn home page this morning. Its still amazing the power one individual has in the band.

[Storms123]

This interview was front page on the msn home page this morning. Its still amazing the power one individual has in the band.

I am thrilled he's able to fully tell his story.

[vivfox]

This interview was front page on the msn home page this morning.

That's exactly where I pulled it from last night.

[sleepless child]

Just watched the CBS interview. I just felt sad for Lindsey watching this. The lawsuit is settled and he didn't say for how much, but he said it was enough.

According to him, it was just as has been speculated, Stevie orchestrated it all without cause and the others went along with it to keep Fleetwood Mac going.

I was struck by how Lindsey said Irving Azoff screamed at him on the phone saying "you've done it this time". Not sure what that meant or maybe it shows the Irving is like the rest, all about the money. Also Christine reached out in an email saying she had nothing to do with it and thinks deep in her heart that Stevie is sorry. I don't know if I buy that one.

Lindsey also did two songs, Turn it out and Big Love showing that even though Mike Campbell is a great guitarist, he doesn't have the stage presence of Lindsey Buckingham.

So thanks a lot Stevie for ruining the band I have loved for 43 years over pettiness.

[Street_Dreamer]

Here is the interview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QhCDc_2Ml8

[BLY]

After watching this interview all I have left to say is...He is one class act!

[lovethemac1]

I was so impressed by him. I agree, he is very classy.

What a great interview.

I still feel so very sad for him though. He seems ok, but admitted that for a few months he was very hurt.

Stevie/Mick, you guys blew it big time. No respect at all for either of you.

[vivfox]

Here is the interview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QhCDc_2Ml8


Fantastic interview! It even brought a tear to my eyes. I love this man.

[snroxman]

Thank you so much for posting a link to this interview; otherwise I'd have totally missed it.

It's good to know that -
1. The lawsuit has been settled and that Lindsey says "it's enough".
2. Christine reached out to him.

I look forward to Lindsey's next work. And, if Christine can join him again, even better!

[vivfox]

Thank you so much for posting a link to this interview; otherwise I'd have totally missed it.

I'm sorry I wrote Sunday instead of Saturday but once we post an article we can change all the words within it but not the title of the topic. I shudder to think of all the people I misdirected into thinking it's going to air tomorrow. Glad we have Ledgie's who record and post things for all of us to enjoy in case we do miss anything.It also spares me from having books and erasures thrown at my head. LOL

[Macfan4life]

Its like a train wreck that keeps going. Stevie orchestrated a coup but Lindsey does not know why. IMHO it all started with the Buckingham McVie album when the rest of the band recorded without her.
Dear Christine: Its a nice gesture to email Lindsey and say you had nothing to do with it. However, YES, YOU could have stopped it. Everyone looked at dollar signs instead of having integrity and the legacy of the band.
Good grief, Stevie has regret? She feels the cover band mentality of this band now.

[vivfox]

Its like a train wreck that keeps going. Dear Christine: Its a nice gesture to email Lindsey and say you had nothing to do with it. However, YES, YOU could have stopped it.


I felt this same way for most of the year until another Ledgie mentioned that Chris might have been contractually obliged to remain in Fleetwood Mac after Lindsey told her you can't just come and go. So maybe, just maybe Christine gets to remain blameless in all of this.

[Macfan4life]

I felt this same way for most of the year until another Ledgie mentioned that Chris might have been contractually obliged to remain in Fleetwood Mac after Lindsey told her you can't just come and go. So maybe, just maybe Christine gets to remain blameless in all of this.
Even if that was true, she still had power. The coup happened when she was in London. She still had options. I don't believe at her age she is obligated to tour with the Mac. But that's just my opinion.

[elle]

i love what he said about Christine's letter. i love what she wrote to him, starting with i miss you and i had nothing to do with this.

#majorityrules

[sleepless child]

It seems to be all about the "Big Machine" and money. Lot's of money. Irving Azoff screaming at Lindsey that he did it this time. Lindsey talks in his lawsuit of "others" being involved. Irving wanted his big payout too. So crass.

I wish the others in the group would have told Stevie to suck it up. If you don't like it then you leave. Call her bluff. I think they thought about how it worked in 86 when Lindsey left so it would work again. People are flocking to the concerts, but it leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

[David]

I think it's time for Lindsey to put away Fleetwood Mac for good, and permanently take up his own work. This ending is his opportunity to devote himself to himself, without having to pull musical punches for the functional aspects of a circus and spectacle. He said so himself earlier in the year, so let him treat it like one.

He can do anything he wants now (as long as he can afford it): He can record when he wants and what he wants, and he can play out live when he wants and what he wants. He can find whatever other outlets he wants, too, whether that's scoring movies (everybody knows James Newton Howard and Danny Elfman more for their movie scores than their earlier band work) or painting or writing or even teaching master classes in music technology so that the Brian Wilson and George Martin approaches aren't lost forever.

Do your Whitman thing, Buckingham.

THE untold want by life and land ne'er granted,
Now voyager sail thou forth to seek and find.

[jeets2000]

I saw him in DC the week after the lawsuit was filed, and I saw him last week in York. Granted, these were not M&G experiences, but he looked and acted so much happier on stage last week than he did in October. Could have just been the day, the set (DC had some technical glitches), or any number of things. But I wonder if it wasn’t the settlement and putting all this behind him. But I secretly hope it was the email from Chris that really lifted his spirits. Still holding out hope for BuckVie 2!! :thumbsup:

[cbBen]

If Christine had quit, the band could have sued her.

The one who could have stopped it was Mick. He could have told Stevie, "We're not firing anyone. Sleep on it for a month and then decide whether you want to stay or go, but we'll dissolve the band or (if you quit) carry on without you before we fire anyone."

Stevie would have calmed down, stayed, and the show would have gone on.

[BLY]

If Christine had quit, the band could have sued her.

The one who could have stopped it was Mick. He could have told Stevie, "We're not firing anyone. Sleep on it for a month and then decide whether you want to stay or go, but we'll dissolve the band or (if you quit) carry on without you before we fire anyone."

Stevie would have calmed down, stayed, and the show would have gone on.



I agree with this. On another note that interview when Stevie said “ 4 of us were going to tour and one wasn’t go to” ok.... well, 4 of us wanted to record an album but.....? That’s the next question that should have been asked in that interview.

[cbBen]

I agree with this. On another note that interview when Stevie said “ 4 of us were going to tour and one wasn’t go to” ok.... well, 4 of us wanted to record an album but.....? That’s the next question that should have been asked in that interview.

Great parallel. By the standard that prevailed on that project, they should call this tour non FM but McVie-Nicks.

[SteveMacD]

I agree with this. On another note that interview when Stevie said “ 4 of us were going to tour and one wasn’t go to” ok.... well, 4 of us wanted to record an album but.....? That’s the next question that should have been asked in that interview.
It’s about money. Tours make money, albums don’t, especially the way they make albums.

[tsitopen]

I think it's time for Lindsey to put away Fleetwood Mac for good, and permanently take up his own work. This ending is his opportunity to devote himself to himself, without having to pull musical punches for the functional aspects of a circus and spectacle. He said so himself earlier in the year, so let him treat it like one.

He can do anything he wants now (as long as he can afford it): He can record when he wants and what he wants, and he can play out live when he wants and what he wants. He can find whatever other outlets he wants, too, whether that's scoring movies (everybody knows James Newton Howard and Danny Elfman more for their movie scores than their earlier band work) or painting or writing or even teaching master classes in music technology so that the Brian Wilson and George Martin approaches aren't lost forever.

Do your Whitman thing, Buckingham.

THE untold want by life and land ne'er granted,
Now voyager sail thou forth to seek and find.

Couldn’t he do that while he was in the band though? In addition whether he was in the band or not over the past 30 years I don’t think he did much production (besides for himself), painting or scoring work, if any.

He could have been Whitman anytime. He’ll be back in this band.

[DownOnRodeo]

CbBen -- Mick threatening to dissolve Fleetwood Mac? There would have been a pregnant pause followed by Stevie laughing hysterically for five minutes.

Mick would corral John to keep touring if all they could find as replacement members were a taxidermied squirrel and an antique hat stand.

[StreetAngel86]

Also Christine reached out in an email saying she had nothing to do with it and thinks deep in her heart that Stevie is sorry. I don't know if I buy that one.


yeah. right.

if $tevie was sorry she would say so
but then she'd have to be sorry about something ... and this was all lindsey's fault :rolleyes:

[michelej1]

I felt this same way for most of the year until another Ledgie mentioned that Chris might have been contractually obliged to remain in Fleetwood Mac after Lindsey told her you can't just come and go. So maybe, just maybe Christine gets to remain blameless in all of this.

But to not even answer his email until settlement time? I understand that her lawyer instructed her not to have any communication with him, but what happens if you disobey your lawyer. He doesn’t kill you. She could’ve answered his email. Even now she could pick up a phone rather than emailing him

[DownOnRodeo]

But to not even answer his email until settlement time? I understand that her lawyer instructed her not to have any communication with him, but what happens if you disobey your lawyer. He doesn’t kill you. She could’ve answered his email. Even now she could pick up a phone rather than emailing him

Yes. Of all the crappy behavior this year, John's was the least crappiest in order of crapitude.

"Sorry mate but I'm not allowed to talk to you" or whatever was the reply he sent.

[Angel75]

But to not even answer his email until settlement time? I understand that her lawyer instructed her not to have any communication with him, but what happens if you disobey your lawyer. He doesn’t kill you. She could’ve answered his email. Even now she could pick up a phone rather than emailing him

Absolutely....I'll never understand her lack of communication....If she'd simply written an email, what would have happened...FM firing her or lawyers suing her as a result...as if......She was ball-less

I am happy she has finally communicated with him but a year later....

[Angel75]

Yes. Of all the crappy behavior this year, John's was the least crappiest in order of crapitude.

"Sorry mate but I'm not allowed to talk to you" or whatever was the reply he sent.

Exactly....John was the best of the worst....he ignored the gag orders and had the decency to at least acknowledge Lindsey

[vivfox]

Exactly....John was the best of the worst....he ignored the gag orders and had the decency to at least acknowledge Lindsey

Though how odd that Lindsey did not tell the reporter about John's e mail. Said he only heard from Christine of all the band members.

[DownOnRodeo]

Though how odd that Lindsey did not tell the reporter about John's e mail. Said he only heard from Christine of all the band members.

Well I forget where the John email was originally mentioned (a previous interview?), but come on--it was barely worth mentioning this time around, considering how perfunctory it was. Plus I'm inclined to assume that the main reason John sent it was because he and his family apparently live directly opposite the Buckinghams or something. So for the most part it may have been necessitated by practicalities related to that.

[FuzzyPlum]

CbBen -- Mick threatening to dissolve Fleetwood Mac? There would have been a pregnant pause followed by Stevie laughing hysterically for five minutes.

Mick would corral John to keep touring if all they could find as replacement members were a taxidermied squirrel and an antique hat stand.


That's very funny but oh, so true.


https://images.antiquesatlas.com/dealer-stock-images/elmgarden/19th_Cent_Tall_French_Hat_Wig__as284a1476b.jpg

This one already has Stevie's top hat



https://i.cbc.ca/1.4009887.1488588079!/fileImage/httpImage/image.JPG_gen/derivatives/original_780/squirrel-art.JPG

and this is the spitting image of Mike Campbell


Mick Fleetwood: Fleetwood Mac is a band that continually seeks to evolve and move forward. This is a new line up. We'll likely record something in the near future as a calling card.

[Angel75]

Though how odd that Lindsey did not tell the reporter about John's e mail. Said he only heard from Christine of all the band members.

Not odd at all...he mentioned it in the Rolling Stone interview that discussed the lawsuit.....as he had already stated John was the only one who had any contact in the beginning of the year there was no need to mention it again

[jbrownsjr]

I saw him in DC the week after the lawsuit was filed, and I saw him last week in York. Granted, these were not M&G experiences, but he looked and acted so much happier on stage last week than he did in October. Could have just been the day, the set (DC had some technical glitches), or any number of things. But I wonder if it wasn’t the settlement and putting all this behind him. But I secretly hope it was the email from Chris that really lifted his spirits. Still holding out hope for BuckVie 2!! :thumbsup:

I was at that DC show!! He was in a great mood.

[DownOnRodeo]

https://images.antiquesatlas.com/dealer-stock-images/elmgarden/19th_Cent_Tall_French_Hat_Wig__as284a1476b.jpg

This one already has Stevie's top hat

https://i.cbc.ca/1.4009887.1488588079!/fileImage/httpImage/image.JPG_gen/derivatives/original_780/squirrel-art.JPG

and this is the spitting image of Mike Campbell

Mick Fleetwood: Fleetwood Mac is a band that continually seeks to evolve and move forward. This is a new line up. We'll likely record something in the near future as a calling card.

:laugh::woohoo: Perfect!

Even the curtain behind the hatstand makes it look like it's on stage.

[Feather Blade]

If Christine had quit, the band could have sued her.

The one who could have stopped it was Mick. He could have told Stevie, "We're not firing anyone. Sleep on it for a month and then decide whether you want to stay or go, but we'll dissolve the band or (if you quit) carry on without you before we fire anyone."

Stevie would have calmed down, stayed, and the show would have gone on.

No way would Mick have dissolved the band. I suspect he'll do his best to keep things going in one form or another until the day he dies.