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Wdm6789
11-28-2018, 07:22 PM
I was pretty bummed it wasn’t on the setlist for On With The Show, because it definitely should have been. I cannot believe they would do this song without Lindsey. I have not seen videos of it yet. I keep checking Instagram and YouTube. The only way that it would be okay for them to play Hold Me without Lindsey is if Christine sings all the lead vocals by herself.

David
11-28-2018, 07:27 PM
I was pretty bummed it wasn’t on the setlist for On With The Show, because it definitely should have been. I cannot believe they would do this song without Lindsey. I have not seen videos of it yet. I keep checking Instagram and YouTube. The only way that it would be okay for them to play Hold Me without Lindsey is if Christine sings all the lead vocals by herself.

Do you remember she did this one on her 1984 tour, and she sang with — I think it was — George Hawkins. Maybe Todd Sharp sang, too?

Wdm6789
11-28-2018, 07:40 PM
Do you remember she did this one on her 1984 tour, and she sang with — I think it was — George Hawkins. Maybe Todd Sharp sang, too?


Yes, I almost mentioned that in my post. I still stand by my claim. Christine’s solo tour in 1984 was a totally different situation. It’s like Stevie playing Dreams or Gypsy on her solo tours. Christine, of course, was going to play a few of her popular Fleetwood Mac songs on her solo tour and Hold Me was a big early 80s hit. This new lineup is a completely different situation, not comparable to Christine’s mid 80s solo tour.

Feather Blade
11-28-2018, 07:51 PM
I was pretty bummed it wasn’t on the setlist for On With The Show, because it definitely should have been. I cannot believe they would do this song without Lindsey. I have not seen videos of it yet. I keep checking Instagram and YouTube. The only way that it would be okay for them to play Hold Me without Lindsey is if Christine sings all the lead vocals by herself.

You said you haven't been able to see a video of it yet (I haven't either and I'd love to give it a listen). Perhaps wait until you do before you pass judgement on it? Just a thought...

Macfan4life
11-28-2018, 08:06 PM
Of course. The addition of Hold Me at this phase of the tour is desperation. The arenas are packed but very low energy crowds compared with On With The Show. The band feels this and keeps dropping any deep tracks for more hits. We lost Hypnotized, Storms, Isn't It Midnight, and some Finn song. The casual "fans" want the hits because they never heard these other songs. The fans are like a deer caught in the headlights when the deep tracks are played. If things continue at this rate, don't be surprised to see Stand Back come into the set.

SteveMacD
11-28-2018, 08:26 PM
I don’t see why not. It’s not like Lindsey wrote it.

MikeInNV
11-28-2018, 08:56 PM
I don’t see why not. It’s not like Lindsey wrote it.

Exactly. And he's a co-writer on Isn't It Midnight, and no one seemed to mind having that in the set. (But it's readily apparent that the band can do no right....including Lindsey is shameful but leaving him out is disrespectful.)

Storms123
11-28-2018, 09:08 PM
Exactly. And he's a co-writer on Isn't It Midnight, and no one seemed to mind having that in the set. (But it's readily apparent that the band can do no right....including Lindsey is shameful but leaving him out is disrespectful.)

It's Christine's song--she can do whatever she wants with it. Personally, I was thrilled to hear it during BuckVie, but full disclosure, I don't think it sounded that great. That's neither here nor there at this point though. Like I said, it's her song ultimately, and she's part of the band. I will say though, and I believe an earlier poster mentioned it, stripping back the set list now to include the "standards" or well known songs is disappointing. While I am not thrilled about the LB situation, I was intrigued by the earlier set list. They don't come around my way til next year--my curiosity was starting to get the best of me--but the more obscure/less known/less "commercial" stuff they strip out--the less interested I am. At this rate, by the time the 2019 iteration of the tour rolls around, I fear OWTS part deux. And I don't need to pay these prices for that.

secondhandchain
11-29-2018, 12:25 AM
Of course. The addition of Hold Me at this phase of the tour is desperation. The arenas are packed but very low energy crowds compared with On With The Show. The band feels this and keeps dropping any deep tracks for more hits. We lost Hypnotized, Storms, Isn't It Midnight, and some Finn song. The casual "fans" want the hits because they never heard these other songs. The fans are like a deer caught in the headlights when the deep tracks are played. If things continue at this rate, don't be surprised to see Stand Back come into the set.

The low energy is coming from people who are saying "WHERE THE F IS LINDSEY?" And you KNOW that's part of it. Many people had no idea.

SteveMacD
11-29-2018, 01:32 AM
The most offensive part of the current lineup’s rendition is the horrid pink Windows 95 screensaver going on in the background.

David
11-29-2018, 01:40 AM
The most offensive part of the current lineup’s rendition is the horrid pink Windows 95 screensaver going on in the background.

What is the significance of the weird crap they're putting on the video screen behind the band? Dare I ask whose idea it is to show breaching whales, horses, and other flora and fauna in slow motion and split screen?

Since it took them long enough to play Hold Me, I went ahead and played it meself on drugs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_lfezASuZQ

HomerMcvie
11-29-2018, 02:20 AM
What is the significance of the weird crap they're putting on the video screen behind the band? Dare I ask whose idea it is to show breaching whales, horses, and other flora and fauna in slow motion and split screen?

Since it took them long enough to play Hold Me, I went ahead and played it meself on drugs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_lfezASuZQ

I much prefer it in D. Dropping it to B was far too obvious a key change for Buck Vie(and I can only assume, this current infarcenation).

Was that Max Simmons in your video montage?

And Honest Abe would be rolling over in his grave, at Lindsey's expulsion.

The horrors. My god, the horrors.

mirror69
11-29-2018, 02:49 AM
Of course. The addition of Hold Me at this phase of the tour is desperation. The arenas are packed but very low energy crowds compared with On With The Show. The band feels this and keeps dropping any deep tracks for more hits. We lost Hypnotized, Storms, Isn't It Midnight, and some Finn song. The casual "fans" want the hits because they never heard these other songs. The fans are like a deer caught in the headlights when the deep tracks are played. If things continue at this rate, don't be surprised to see Stand Back come into the set.

Right now I'm not surprise if they drop Black Magic Woman or Tell me for "Stand back" they lost another time to do something new without a record a new work they have no fantasy.....it's more sad with Lindsey would be same because with him in 15 years same 14/15 songs in all tour........Always the same

Macfan4life
11-29-2018, 06:11 AM
Of course they have a right to play Hold Me and its a great song. However when they first announced their set list, I think most of us were surprised the dare they were taking on with deep tracks. Its apparent with dropping the deep tracks, the band feels the mood of the arena is off.
I could be in the minority but the longer this tour goes on, the more odd it is to me. I think the band would have been better off hiring a guitarist who does not sing. I think they are fully trying to replicate Lindsey in replacing him vocally and musically. I think Stevie and Chris have enough material to carry a full concert set. For the band to fire Lindsey and hire another guitarist to not only play guitar but sing Lindsey songs is still very strange to me. Imagine if the Rolling Stones fired Keith Richards and the band hired a new guitarist. The band puts "Little T&A" in the set. The fans would boo and throw food at the stage. Its bad enough you fire the guitarist but sing his songs too? I am not being harsh on Finn. He was put in this position because they want him to sing and be like Lindsey. The band cant have Finn sing vintage Mac songs because apparently the audience is bored. They dropped Hypnotized only after a few weeks. So the band feels they must play Lindsey's Rumours songs. These songs most of the audience knows. Its so strange for the band to be playing Monday Morning, Second Hand News, and Go Your Own Way. Ok, I may give them a pass at GYOW. Its always closed their sets. It was done in the years Lindsey left. However, even in those years the band did not dare do Lindsey songs. Blue Letter was played in 1987 but Lindsey did not write it. They found a way not to try and reproduce Lindsey. You cant reproduce a guitarist AND vocalist in a band. Its impossible. This is what I feel the band is experiencing right now. The concert numbers are pretty good. But something still does not feel right.
And they wonder why?

bwboy
11-29-2018, 07:41 AM
Of course they have a right to play Hold Me and its a great song. However when they first Its so strange for the band to be playing Monday Morning, Second Hand News, and Go Your Own Way. Ok, I may give them a pass at GYOW. Its always closed their sets. It was done in the years Lindsey left. However, even in those years the band did not dare do Lindsey songs. Blue Letter was played in 1987 but Lindsey did not write it. They found a way not to try and reproduce Lindsey. You cant reproduce a guitarist AND vocalist in a band. Its impossible. This is what I feel the band is experiencing right now. The concert numbers are pretty good. But something still does not feel right.
And they wonder why?

Just wanted to remind you that Billy Burnette also sang Don't Let Me Down Again, a song that Lindsey recorded before he even joined FM. To me, that was more brazen than Neil singing Second Hand News.

Also, I understand what you're saying about Hold Me, but the fact that FM hasn't performed it live since 1982 does, to me, make it a surprising and pleasing addition! Although I hate they gave up Isn't It Midnight, at least they replaced it with Hold Me and not Over My Head, for example, a song I love but has been performed several times by FM, unlike Hold Me.

I kind of thought there was a good chance Hold Me and Wish You Were Here would be on the original set list, since they were performed by Buck/Vie last year.

ryan4136
11-29-2018, 08:07 AM
Of course. The addition of Hold Me at this phase of the tour is desperation. The arenas are packed but very low energy crowds compared with On With The Show. The band feels this and keeps dropping any deep tracks for more hits. We lost Hypnotized, Storms, Isn't It Midnight, and some Finn song. The casual "fans" want the hits because they never heard these other songs. The fans are like a deer caught in the headlights when the deep tracks are played. If things continue at this rate, don't be surprised to see Stand Back come into the set.

Which again shows you that the fans aren't showing up for "this new energized FM" they are just there to hear the jukebox.

elle
11-29-2018, 09:44 AM
I kind of thought there was a good chance Hold Me and Wish You Were Here would be on the original set list, since they were performed by Buck/Vie last year.
Yes I was sure they were gonna do Hold Me on this tour because they had it down for BuckVie. If Lindsey was not kicked out I have no doubt it would have been a part of the standard setlist.

For some reason this one hurts. I’m happy they are doing Second Hand News and Monday Morning. I hate they are doing GYOW but Lindsey’s solo tour is healing for that. But Hold Me? I don’t know why but it just hurts. She was doing that nice intro to it last year, how it was one of their duets, her and Lindsey. How much the two of them always had a connection and worked so great together. It just finally feels like she’s really betraying him.

And people, please don’t come back to this with some stupid reasoning and trying to rationalize why it’s ok. It is not, not to me.

elle
11-29-2018, 09:53 AM
Which again shows you that the fans aren't showing up for "this new energized FM" they are just there to hear the jukebox.

Public filling arenas, yeah. As most nostalgia bands. They are there for a notch in the belt, beer and jukebox.

As far as the actual FM fans, from looking across social media it’s mainly Stevie Nicks rabid fans who always hated LB, and couldn’t care less about the Mac. All of the sudden they are going to tons of Mac shows, even though they are getting nothing different from Nicks from any other FM tour (unless you count 3 covers). Oh and Steve. 😂

jbrownsjr
11-29-2018, 11:14 AM
Do you remember she did this one on her 1984 tour, and she sang with — I think it was — George Hawkins. Maybe Todd Sharp sang, too?

I thought her solo version was better than the Mirage tour version.

jbrownsjr
11-29-2018, 12:53 PM
They are doing World Turning which was the first ever BuckVie co-write.

elle
11-29-2018, 01:40 PM
They are doing World Turning which was the first ever BuckVie co-write.

There you go with rational points - what did I say about that somewhere up in this thread? :distress: :xoxo:

jbrownsjr
11-29-2018, 02:01 PM
There you go with rational points - what did I say about that somewhere up in this thread? :distress: :xoxo:

If they did Mystified, I would be seriously pissed. Because that would be some serious BuckVie taunting. lol

SteveMacD
11-29-2018, 03:36 PM
Just wanted to remind you that Billy Burnette also sang Don't Let Me Down Again, a song that Lindsey recorded before he even joined FM. To me, that was more brazen than Neil singing Second Hand News.
Agreed.

I used to think that it was brazen, too, until I learned that Billy and his dad were given a copy of Buckingham Nicks in 1973 and Billy immediately fell in love with the album. He thought it was reminiscent of Delaney & Bonnie. He may have been familiar with them before being familiar with Fleetwood Mac. Anyway, DLMDA was a natural fit for his style.

David
11-29-2018, 04:25 PM
Agreed.

I used to think that it was brazen, too, until I learned that Billy and his dad were given a copy of Buckingham Nicks in 1973 and Billy immediately fell in love with the album. He thought it was reminiscent of Delaney & Bonnie. He may have been familiar with them before being familiar with Fleetwood Mac. Anyway, DLMDA was a natural fit for his style. I never thought it was brazen, for those very reasons. Billy had a baker's dozen links to Fleetwood Mac by that time, and loved Lindsey. You can bet that DLMDA was in the set in 1987 expressly because Billy wanted to do it. So it wasn't brazen at all—it was a tribute from a fan (a fan who appeared with Lindsey on SNL in 1981).

jbrownsjr
11-29-2018, 04:51 PM
I never thought it was brazen, for those very reasons. Billy had a baker's dozen links to Fleetwood Mac by that time, and loved Lindsey. You can bet that DLMDA was in the set in 1987 expressly because Billy wanted to do it. So it wasn't brazen at all—it was a tribute from a fan (a fan who appeared with Lindsey on SNL in 1981).

I remember being quite pleased with the Billy choice back in 1987. I was so familiar with his music and style that I didn't mind it at all.

Netter75
11-29-2018, 04:59 PM
Also, I understand what you're saying about Hold Me, but the fact that FM hasn't performed it live since 1982 does, to me, make it a surprising and pleasing addition! Although I hate they gave up Isn't It Midnight, at least they replaced it with Hold Me and not Over My Head, for example, a song I love but has been performed several times by FM, unlike Hold Me.

I'm unbelievably sad about IIM's dissapearance from the setlist. It's one of my favorite songs and it's inclusion is what got me hyped for this tour and convinced me to buy my ticket. Hoping they don't cut anymore...

You've got a point though that seeing Hold Me is a rarity in it of itself, even if I'm not necessarily a huge fan of the song. From the video I saw of it though I did like it better than the album cut, so that's something.

If they had cut IIM for the low-energy Over My Head I would have thrown a chair :laugh:.

jbrownsjr
11-29-2018, 05:15 PM
I'm unbelievably sad about IIM's dissapearance from the setlist. It's one of my favorite songs and it's inclusion is what got me hyped for this tour and convinced me to buy my ticket. Hoping they don't cut anymore...

You've got a point though that seeing Hold Me is a rarity in it of itself, even if I'm not necessarily a huge fan of the song. From the video I saw of it though I did like it better than the album cut, so that's something.

If they had cut IIM for the low-energy Over My Head I would have thrown a chair :laugh:.

Agree... Over My Head Live... zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Macfan4life
11-29-2018, 06:07 PM
Just wanted to remind you that Billy Burnette also sang Don't Let Me Down Again, a song that Lindsey recorded before he even joined FM. To me, that was more brazen than Neil singing Second Hand News.

Also, I understand what you're saying about Hold Me, but the fact that FM hasn't performed it live since 1982 does, to me, make it a surprising and pleasing addition! Although I hate they gave up Isn't It Midnight, at least they replaced it with Hold Me and not Over My Head, for example, a song I love but has been performed several times by FM, unlike Hold Me.

I kind of thought there was a good chance Hold Me and Wish You Were Here would be on the original set list, since they were performed by Buck/Vie last year.
That's correct. One difference is that Stevie sings the entire song (Don't let me down again). I love Hold Me and welcome it to the set. That's not my point. I just see their bravery falling apart. I think they had too much faith in their casual fans. You know, the ones who only show up for Stevie which is about 80% of the crowd.

Macfan4life
11-29-2018, 06:08 PM
Agree... Over My Head Live... zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
True.
Give us the Live Album (1980) version or go home.

DownOnRodeo
11-29-2018, 07:07 PM
Soon they'll just play the Greatest Hits cd over the PA, watching on hesitantly from backstage while the audience is hosed down with jets of cheap beer.

lovethemac1
11-29-2018, 08:01 PM
Soon they'll just play the Greatest Hits cd over the PA, watching on hesitantly from backstage while the audience is hosed down with jets of cheap beer.

OMG, this is just hilarious.....thank you!!!! I'm still laughing.:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

Netter75
11-29-2018, 08:27 PM
True.
Give us the Live Album (1980) version or go home.

I agree. The Live album version has some energy, as well as the live versions from the '75 tour. Beyond that? Gawdddd it's dull. The Dance performance in particular was lame as all hell. They made a good move to replace it with Oh Daddy on the ensuing tour. Wish they had done that for the special as well.

Sidenote does anyone else completely LOVE the '97 rendition of Oh Daddy? Chris' voice is strong and I love the instrumentation/backing vocals

Storms123
11-29-2018, 10:19 PM
Soon they'll just play the Greatest Hits cd over the PA, watching on hesitantly from backstage while the audience is hosed down with jets of cheap beer.

But only every third night.

dontlookdown
11-30-2018, 01:08 AM
I actually think they sounded pretty great - judging by the youtube videos I've seen of Hold Me.
And I'm one of the most disappointed Lindsey fans I know.

If Chris sings Don't Stop w/o Lindsey, there's no reason why she shouldn't do Hold Me w/o him.

I love Mike Campbell, but I still think it's weird they're doing Second Hand News and Monday Morning w/o Lindsey.

jbrownsjr
11-30-2018, 11:03 AM
I agree. The Live album version has some energy, as well as the live versions from the '75 tour. Beyond that? Gawdddd it's dull. The Dance performance in particular was lame as all hell. They made a good move to replace it with Oh Daddy on the ensuing tour. Wish they had done that for the special as well.

Sidenote does anyone else completely LOVE the '97 rendition of Oh Daddy? Chris' voice is strong and I love the instrumentation/backing vocals

The way she sang Oh Daddy on the Dance Tour had me in tears. It was so good.

BlanketMan
11-30-2018, 03:45 PM
Of course. The addition of Hold Me at this phase of the tour is desperation. The arenas are packed but very low energy crowds compared with On With The Show. The band feels this and keeps dropping any deep tracks for more hits. We lost Hypnotized, Storms, Isn't It Midnight, and some Finn song.

"some Finn song"?!? Aargh, they dropped "I Got You"! That was one of the two big reasons I was still contemplating seeing FM in March. I've seen Finn four times since 1987 and never has he done "I Got You," one of my all-time favorite tunes. Seems unlikely they'll bring it back for the spring leg...

Storms123
11-30-2018, 06:17 PM
"some Finn song"?!? Aargh, they dropped "I Got You"! That was one of the two big reasons I was still contemplating seeing FM in March. I've seen Finn four times since 1987 and never has he done "I Got You," one of my all-time favorite tunes. Seems unlikely they'll bring it back for the spring leg...

At the rate they are going, by the spring leg, they will have dropped everything that made this sort of intriguing and you will have OWTS part 2, with a tribute to Tom Petty.

jmn3
12-01-2018, 08:35 AM
Finally saw the Phoenix Hold Me video on YouTube and...it's alright. It's less lame than the BuckVie tour with all the canned vocals, but not by much. With all the people on stage able to sing, why on Earth they are using canned vocals for the "Come on and" parts just like they did on BuckVie is just beyond me. It's hard to tell from the video but is Neil, just like Lindsey did, mouthing that part too? Lame.

It looks (again hard to tell in the video for certain) like Chris isn't playing the solo...again. And I'll just say it, Mike Campbell's solos on this song absolutely suck.

They can play whatever they want, and Hold Me should have been in the set in 1997 and 2014-15, so I don't care if this group also wants to play it, but it definitely continues to lack the oomph that this great track should have.

Give me the raw and ridiculous "Hold me, hold me, yeaahhhhhh's" from the Mirage Tour any day of the week.

BLY
12-02-2018, 11:26 AM
Finally saw the Phoenix Hold Me video on YouTube and...it's alright. It's less lame than the BuckVie tour with all the canned vocals, but not by much. With all the people on stage able to sing, why on Earth they are using canned vocals for the "Come on and" parts just like they did on BuckVie is just beyond me. It's hard to tell from the video but is Neil, just like Lindsey did, mouthing that part too? Lame.

It looks (again hard to tell in the video for certain) like Chris isn't playing the solo...again. And I'll just say it, Mike Campbell's solos on this song absolutely suck.

They can play whatever they want, and Hold Me should have been in the set in 1997 and 2014-15, so I don't care if this group also wants to play it, but it definitely continues to lack the oomph that this great track should have.

Give me the raw and ridiculous "Hold me, hold me, yeaahhhhhh's" from the Mirage Tour any day of the week.



It is Neil singing “Come on and”

kak125
12-02-2018, 01:05 PM
Just watched the Phoenix & Vegas videos and it sounds ok it just seems too slow and lacking any sort of energy. I am so glad I got to hear Isn’t It Midnight in Pittsburgh at least.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5Zs5aVUdxn8

David
12-02-2018, 07:45 PM
Finally saw the Phoenix Hold Me video on YouTube and...it's alright.
Haven't seen these videos yet, but I can hear the performance in my head. I know exactly what this band sounds like already, and I know exactly how they'd arrange and play Hold Me.

DownOnRodeo
12-02-2018, 08:34 PM
Mike's guitar solo on this is vomit.

And though Neil is still persona non grata in my book for signing up to this in the first place, I sure hope he is getting paid double whatever Mike is.

KenshiMaster16
12-02-2018, 11:46 PM
Never been a fan of this song live ever but it honestly sounded better last summer on the BuckVie tour.

HomerMcvie
12-03-2018, 12:42 AM
Never been a fan of this song live ever but it honestly sounded better last summer on the BuckVie tour.

I just checked, and they were doing it in the key of B for BuckVie(original is in D). And now they've raised it to C. Weird.

(I'm going by the vids that Viv posted of Hold Me on this tour)

Does Mike Campbell SUCK, or why did he start the solo at the end in the wrong key? WTF? Did he skip their rehearsals?

BlanketMan
12-03-2018, 08:09 AM
Just watched the Phoenix & Vegas videos and it sounds ok it just seems too slow and lacking any sort of energy. I am so glad I got to hear Isn’t It Midnight in Pittsburgh at least.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5Zs5aVUdxn8

Yikes, that's tough to watch, and tougher to listen to! They seem like they're half-asleep. For one of their bigger hits, it's sad seeing the crowd completely uninvolved here.

I saw LB on Friday night and the difference in the energy level from the clips I've seen of the NuMac is palpable. As a Finn Fan, I've been hoping this new incarnation succeeds, so it's not like I'm Pro-Lindsey, Anti-Mac. But from what I've heard/read/seen-on-YouTube, they definitely miss LB's energy on stage. Campbell seems to be a big disappointment.

bwboy
12-03-2018, 09:11 AM
I saw LB on Friday night and the difference in the energy level from the clips I've seen of the NuMac is palpable. As a Finn Fan, I've been hoping this new incarnation succeeds, so it's not like I'm Pro-Lindsey, Anti-Mac. But from what I've heard/read/seen-on-YouTube, they definitely miss LB's energy on stage. Campbell seems to be a big disappointment.

I thought FM had a lot of energy at the show I saw them at, but I agree that Mike Campbell did just seem to be going through the motions. He did a good job, but he seemed to isolate himself from the others, interacting only occasionally with Christine. He spent more time with the back up singers than anyone in the band. Maybe I'm reading too much into it, but it wouldn't surprise me if he leaves the band after this tour. Even during his performance of Oh Well, it seemed like he didn't really want to be singing it.

DownOnRodeo
12-03-2018, 08:51 PM
I thought FM had a lot of energy at the show I saw them at, but I agree that Mike Campbell did just seem to be going through the motions. He did a good job, but he seemed to isolate himself from the others, interacting only occasionally with Christine. He spent more time with the back up singers than anyone in the band. Maybe I'm reading too much into it, but it wouldn't surprise me if he leaves the band after this tour. Even during his performance of Oh Well, it seemed like he didn't really want to be singing it.

Yes--after two months on the road with Stevie, at this point he's probably trying to get fired.

But why wouldn't they be bored with three days between every concert.
No wonder he is pursuing his peculiar side project simultaneous to the FM tour.
For Lindsey? A fireable offense. For Mike? A hireable offense.

cbBen
12-03-2018, 09:33 PM
Yes--after two months on the road with Stevie, at this point he's probably trying to get fired.

He toured with Stevie in 2006 (when she joined the Heartbreakers), so to that extent he knew what he was getting into.

David
12-03-2018, 10:11 PM
He toured with Stevie in 2006 (when she joined the Heartbreakers), so to that extent he knew what he was getting into.
Well, he's been hanging out with Stevie for 37 years. Nothing about her surprises him, surely, but the experience of playing lead guitar for Fleetwood Mac may not be what he thought it would be, or it may be precisely what he thought it would be, or something in between. I don't know what the others in the thread think, but I don't think Mike loves being in the band. I don't have any anecdotes in mind, just a sense that playing "Rhiannon," "Don't Stop" and "Say You Love Me" every week for ten months is going to pall for him sooner or later. Without knowing for sure, of course, I would say he has absolutely no emotional investment in or connection to Fleetwood Mac 2018. It's just a gig. I had these thoughts when he joined, and voiced them here. I'd eat my hat if he gave an interview and said, "I really love this band and its amazing catalog of music, and I'm going to be part of Fleetwood Mac for a long time. Working with John, Mick, Christine, and Stevie night after night is invigorating. I feel like a new man."

HomerMcvie
12-04-2018, 02:26 AM
Working with John, Mick, Christine, and Stevie night after night is invigorating. I feel like a new man."

Hell, these days, working with them would make me highly suspect that my family had committed me to a nursing home.

cbBen
12-04-2018, 11:13 AM
I think Stevie and Chris have enough material to carry a full concert set.

Could they have pulled off the "Chain" without a male vocalist (or just not done it)? What about "World Turning"?

Could they have had Stevie sing "Go Your Own Way" (or, again, not done it)?

Buster
12-04-2018, 12:03 PM
Just watched the Phoenix & Vegas videos and it sounds ok it just seems too slow and lacking any sort of energy. I am so glad I got to hear Isn’t It Midnight in Pittsburgh at least.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5Zs5aVUdxn8

Oooff that’s a tough listen. Love love Christine but she’s unlistenable to me this tour. Sounds like she has a really bad cold. Maybe it all sounds better in the arena.

DownOnRodeo
12-04-2018, 06:49 PM
He toured with Stevie in 2006 (when she joined the Heartbreakers), so to that extent he knew what he was getting into.

That was Tom's band.
This one is now hers.

SteveMacD
12-04-2018, 06:51 PM
Guess I’m the only one watching his bathroom jams videos.

He seems happy.

kak125
12-04-2018, 07:39 PM
Guess I’m the only one watching his bathroom jams videos.

He seems happy.

I love those bathroom jams they are the best! The ones with Sharon & Marilyn are my fav! Good stuff! I agree Mike looks like he’s having a good time on this tour. I follow Taku too and it’s fun to see them all hanging out on their off days.