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elle

11-13-2018, 10:25 AM

Waiting for some videos and impressions.

I’ll link some tweets later if nobody else does.

Maybe people calling him St Lindsey are right.

jbrownsjr

11-13-2018, 10:32 AM

That's pretty classy! :thumbsup:

lovethemac1

11-13-2018, 10:36 AM

That's so sweet, what a nice gesture. Not sure it will happen in return...:shrug:

ryan4136

11-13-2018, 12:12 PM

Oh you and I we sure can dream
Of conversations that might have been

I know that I treat you unkind
And long ago I lost my mind

And even after all these years
I can't even see you clear

I know that you must lie sometimes
To hide the truth you're trying to find

Oh I won't shut us down
No I will stay around
As long as I can
As long as I can

Even after all these years
I can't even see you clear

A child is born another dies
And every life has its price

Oh I won't shut us down
No I will stay around
As long as I can
As long as I can
As long as I can
As long as I can
As long as I can

sodascouts

11-13-2018, 12:34 PM

I was going to start a review thread on this but silly work got in the way, lol.

Yes, it was a very intense moment.

The song was preceded by Lindsey talking about how special Birmingham was because it was one of only a couple places where Buckingham Nicks was appreciated back in 1974. He noted that there were actually people in the audience who had seen Stevie and him performing there so many years ago, and that he appreciated that those people were still with him. He said in some ways, things had come full circle... and this was a new beginning.

He smiled a bit sadly and said, "So maybe I'll dedicate this next one to Stevie."

I heard a few people do some chortling and "yeahs" and the like. They obviously were unfamiliar with the setlist and were expecting a snarky song, or an angry song.... something like "Wrong," or "Never Going Back Again."

But it was "Shut Us Down."

And on that first line... "You and I, we sure can dream..." for just a moment... he got a little choked up.

Everyone fell silent as he ripped his heart open for the song. He got himself under control for the remainder of it, but oh my gosh. As someone who was into BN (obviously) and has mourned the loss of that as much as the loss of Fleetwood Mac, I was getting choked up, too.

After the song, as the notes died, it seemed the air was vibrating with the emotional power of it. You couldn't help but feel it - his vulnerability, his passion, his frustration, his confusion, his grief, his regret, his longing, his defiance... everything. He got a standing ovation. It was the first of the night, but not the last.

I'll never hear that song the same way again.

lovethemac1

11-13-2018, 01:07 PM

I was going to start a review thread on this but silly work got in the way, lol.

Yes, it was a very intense moment.

The song was preceded by Lindsey talking about how special Birmingham was because it was one of only a couple places where Buckingham Nicks was appreciated back in 1974. He talked about how there were people in the audience who had seen Stevie and him performing so many years ago, and that he appreciated that they were still with him. He said in some ways, things had come full circle... and this was a new beginning.

He smiled a bit sadly and said, "So maybe I'll dedicate this next one to Stevie."

I heard a few people do some chortling and "yeahs" and the like. They obviously were unfamiliar with the setlist and were expecting a snarky song, or an angry song.... something like "Wrong," or "Never Going Back Again."

But it was "Shut Us Down."

And on that first line... "You and I, we sure can dream..." for just a moment... he got a little choked up.

Everyone fell silent as he ripped his heart open for the song. He was fine for the remainder of the it, but oh my gosh. As someone who was into BN (obviously) and has mourned the loss of that as much as the loss of Fleetwood Mac, I was getting choked up, too.

After the song, as the notes died, it seemed the air was vibrating with the emotional power of it. You couldn't help but feel it - his vulnerability, his passion, his frustration, his confusion, his grief, his regret, his longing, his defiance... everything. He got a standing ovation. It was the first of the night, but not the last.

I'll never hear that song the same way again.

Just reading this Nancy, made me tear up. Thank you for telling us.
What an unbelievable special moment to have witnessed. I wonder if anyone has it on video??

Storms123

11-13-2018, 02:07 PM

I was going to start a review thread on this but silly work got in the way, lol.

Yes, it was a very intense moment.

The song was preceded by Lindsey talking about how special Birmingham was because it was one of only a couple places where Buckingham Nicks was appreciated back in 1974. He talked about how there were people in the audience who had seen Stevie and him performing so many years ago, and that he appreciated that they were still with him. He said in some ways, things had come full circle... and this was a new beginning.

He smiled a bit sadly and said, "So maybe I'll dedicate this next one to Stevie."

I heard a few people do some chortling and "yeahs" and the like. They obviously were unfamiliar with the setlist and were expecting a snarky song, or an angry song.... something like "Wrong," or "Never Going Back Again."

But it was "Shut Us Down."

And on that first line... "You and I, we sure can dream..." for just a moment... he got a little choked up.

Everyone fell silent as he ripped his heart open for the song. He was fine for the remainder of the it, but oh my gosh. As someone who was into BN (obviously) and has mourned the loss of that as much as the loss of Fleetwood Mac, I was getting choked up, too.

After the song, as the notes died, it seemed the air was vibrating with the emotional power of it. You couldn't help but feel it - his vulnerability, his passion, his frustration, his confusion, his grief, his regret, his longing, his defiance... everything. He got a standing ovation. It was the first of the night, but not the last.

I'll never hear that song the same way again.

Wow, so much class. And he’s really demonstrated classy behavior throughout this situation. That’s the part that hurts the most about this situation. The history between these two people.
My curiosity is burning though, I wonder if it made its way back to her?

dontlookdown

11-13-2018, 02:20 PM

Wow.

I know Shut Us Down was a co-write.
Does anyone know if Lindsey wrote all or most of the lyrics?

sodascouts

11-13-2018, 02:44 PM

I believe Lindsey only modified the lyrics slightly, but they obviously spoke to him immensely.

BTW, I forgot to add that before "Shut Us Down," he wondered aloud what would have happened if he and Stevie had just kept going as Buckingham Nicks and had never joined Fleetwood Mac, sounding a bit wistful. He concluded with something to the effect of, "Who knows how things would have turned out if we had made a different choice."

sodascouts

11-13-2018, 02:56 PM

I found the version with her lyrics in another thread (http://ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/showthread.php?t=33699) - more was changed than I'd remembered:

Oh you and I sure do dream
You and I surely see
But open arms one sweet night
I hold that we will touch in time

After all these crazy years
I can't even see you clear
I know that I was bending some truth
Defensive me, missing you

Oh, I won't shut us down
No, I'll be around
As long as I can
As long as I can

After all these growing years
I recall all my fears
We built a wall between us two
But I still love the thought of you

I won't shut us down
No, I'll be around
As long as I can
As long as I can

Oh, I won't shut us down
No, I'll be around
As long as I can
As long as I can

Angel75

11-13-2018, 03:34 PM

I was going to start a review thread on this but silly work got in the way, lol.

Yes, it was a very intense moment.

The song was preceded by Lindsey talking about how special Birmingham was because it was one of only a couple places where Buckingham Nicks was appreciated back in 1974. He talked about how there were people in the audience who had seen Stevie and him performing so many years ago, and that he appreciated that they were still with him. He said in some ways, things had come full circle... and this was a new beginning.

He smiled a bit sadly and said, "So maybe I'll dedicate this next one to Stevie."

I heard a few people do some chortling and "yeahs" and the like. They obviously were unfamiliar with the setlist and were expecting a snarky song, or an angry song.... something like "Wrong," or "Never Going Back Again."

But it was "Shut Us Down."

And on that first line... "You and I, we sure can dream..." for just a moment... he got a little choked up.

Everyone fell silent as he ripped his heart open for the song. He got himself under control for the remainder of it, but oh my gosh. As someone who was into BN (obviously) and has mourned the loss of that as much as the loss of Fleetwood Mac, I was getting choked up, too.

After the song, as the notes died, it seemed the air was vibrating with the emotional power of it. You couldn't help but feel it - his vulnerability, his passion, his frustration, his confusion, his grief, his regret, his longing, his defiance... everything. He got a standing ovation. It was the first of the night, but not the last.

I'll never hear that song the same way again.

Wow, thanks for sharing this. What a special moment.
Lindsey is amazing to be the bigger person in this. Not an easy task of anyone considering.

sodascouts

11-13-2018, 04:51 PM

Other impressions:

I had sprung for VIP and got to meet Lindsey before the show. He seemed to be in good spirits. I thanked him for doing "Soul Drifter" and said it meant a lot to me; he said that it had taken on a new meaning for him due to recent events. I replied that I could imagine so, lol.

Then it was time for the show. I was on my game in my ticket purchasing and got front row center, so I got to enjoy Lindsey from the best seat in the house! (And what a house it was - the gorgeous Lyric Theatre has great acoustics. The only drawbacks were a huge gap between the front row and the stage, and security with stern faces that discouraged people from going up to the stage until at the encore I just went for it lol).

Lindsey was strong vocally and energetic. He was having a good night.

It was so great to hear songs that I never thought I would hear live - so many tunes from OOTC and then there are the tracks from Go Insane as well. Of special note: Although I love the intensity of the acoustic "Go Insane", hearing the live version with effects really rocked and brought a different kind of energy which was really cool. Of course, my favorite "Soul Drifter" was wonderful and went by all too quickly. Also, I liked the way he incorporated the slower instrumental coda of "Slow Dancing" into the live version.

The only moments I wasn't really into: I've never enjoyed the repetitive "I Must Go" and the live version doesn't enchant me any more than the original. Also, the "silence of stone" bridge of "Surrender the Rain" was quite obviously not him actually singing. He needs to either drop it down an octave so he can sing it himself or make that recording sound more natural. It was jarring and took me out of the moment of a lovely song. Otherwise, I was happy as can be with the show.

For those wondering - we did get "Down on Rodeo"! I was praying he would do this as I know not just one but two fans who would have been devastated if he had skipped it. I, of course, would have been quite disappointed as well.

Finally, I really like that he ends on "Treason." Not only is it a beautiful song, but it also just works so well thematically. I was looking up at his face and singing along with "At the end of the season, we will rise from this treason," and I couldn't help but think how true it was for Lindsey. More power to him.

Amazing show. Long live Lindsey Buckingham and his solo efforts!

lovethemac1

11-13-2018, 05:10 PM

Other impressions:

I had sprung for VIP and got to meet Lindsey before the show. He seemed to be in good spirits. I thanked him for doing "Soul Drifter" and said it meant a lot to me; he said that it had taken on a new meaning for him due to recent events. I replied that I could imagine so, lol.

Then it was time for the show. I was on my game in my ticket purchasing and got front row center, so I got to enjoy Lindsey from the best seat in the house! (And what a house it was - the gorgeous Lyric Theatre has great acoustics. The only drawbacks were a huge gap between the front row and the stage, and security with stern faces that discouraged people from going up to the stage until at the encore I just went for it lol).

Lindsey was strong vocally and energetic. He was having a good night.

It was so great to hear songs that I never thought I would hear live - so many tunes from OOTC and then there are the tracks from Go Insane as well. Of special note: Although I love the intensity of the acoustic "Go Insane", hearing the live version with effects really rocked and brought a different kind of energy which was really cool. Of course, my favorite "Soul Drifter" was wonderful and went by all too quickly. Also, I liked the way he incorporated the slower instrumental coda of "Slow Dancing" into the live version.

The only moments I wasn't really into: I've never enjoyed the repetitive "I Must Go" and the live version doesn't enchant me any more than the original. Also, the "silence of stone" bridge of "Surrender the Rain" was quite obviously not him actually singing. He needs to either drop it down an octave so he can sing it himself or make that recording sound more natural. It was jarring and took me out of the moment of a lovely song. Otherwise, I was happy as can be with the show.

For those wondering - we did get "Down on Rodeo"! I was praying he would do this as I know now just one but two fans who would have been devastated if he had skipped it.

Finally, I really like that he ends on "Treason." Not only is it beautiful song, but is also just works so well thematically. I was looking up at his face and singing along with "At the end of the season, we will rise from this treason," and I couldn't help but think how true it was for Lindsey. More power to him.

Amazing show. Long live Lindsey Buckingham and his solo efforts!

Fabulous add on comments for your review. Thank you!!

gldstwmn

11-13-2018, 06:20 PM

elle

11-13-2018, 06:55 PM

tweet stating basically the same what sodascouts described to us in more detail (and as i told you in messages - i'm so happy for you that you of all people were there to witness it, Nancy!) -

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">It was very generous. He was talking about Birmingham Nicks playing Birmingham bc there were some folks in the audience at that show and he just slipped it in saying, We'll do this one for Stevie. There were a few gasps bc I don't think anybody expected him to mention names.</p>— Kirk Curnutt (@KirkCurnutt) <a href="https://twitter.com/KirkCurnutt/status/1062358525685497856?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 13, 2018</a></blockquote>
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also some descriptions from our FB group including what i was told, and then description from somebody who was at the show:

Braden: He said “Maybe, just maybe I’ll dedicate this one to Stevie tonight” then played Shut Us Down.

Elle: Shut Us Down is the song he uses for dedications on this tour.
Apparently he talked about buckingham nicks success in Alabama and how he’s making a fresh start and how everything is circular and how he and Stevie kinda had their first taste of success there and that this year certainly turned out differently than he expected and so maybe he will dedicate this song to Stevie - something like that. People who were there should correct me.

Braden: Yep, that's correct. Tuscaloosa (and Birmingham I think) were the two shows that Buckingham Nicks played with arguably, their most success. The album was huge in Alabama, compared to other places. He kinda ruminated on the idea of "what would have happened if they responded to that success in Alabama and not joined Fleetwood Mac?" I've heard him say something similar in interviews before, but it was really cool to see him acknowledge it in Birmingham. I think he even indicated that some of the people who were there that night had seen him and Stevie in Buckingham Nicks at one of those shows. It was a very special moment in the show.

elle

11-13-2018, 06:58 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Is <a href="https://twitter.com/LBuckingham?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@LBuckingham</a>'s solo show a declaration of independence from <a href="https://twitter.com/fleetwoodmac?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@fleetwoodmac</a>? <a href="https://t.co/JkrvpyQDck">https://t.co/JkrvpyQDck</a> <a href="https://t.co/5Yap6p6sex">pic.twitter.com/5Yap6p6sex</a></p>— Mary Colurso (@MaryColurso) <a href="https://twitter.com/MaryColurso/status/1062488263716421633?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 13, 2018</a></blockquote>
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https://www.al.com/life/2018/11/is-lindsey-buckinghams-solo-show-a-declaration-of-independence-from-fleetwood-mac.html#incart_river_index

ALABAMA LIFE & CULTURE

Is Lindsey Buckingham’s solo show a declaration of independence from Fleetwood Mac?

Updated 6:12 PM; Posted 6:00 PM
27 Photo Gallery: Lindsey Buckingham Concert at the Lyric Theatre

By Mary Colurso | [email protected] [email protected]

Lindsey Buckingham has always been an intriguing artist, an exacting craftsman, a compelling performer … and a guy who likes to be in charge of his destiny.

Plays well with others? Sure, but not always. The history of his most famous band, Fleetwood Mac, is fraught with tensions — both personal and professional — that have been a creative spur for some enduring, and truly wonderful, pop-rock music.

Buckingham comes with baggage, in other words.

It’s interesting baggage, and it doesn’t prevent him from excelling on stage. But longtime fans have to wonder how Buckingham is feeling these days, after his ouster from Fleetwood Mac earlier this year and his exclusion from the band’s 2018-2019 tour. (It comes to Birmingham on Feb. 13.)

We know that Buckingham is suing Fleetwood Mac for breach of fiduciary duty, breach of oral contract and more. (An October story by Rolling Stone includes a copy of the legal complaint.) But is he hurt? Angry? Frustrated? Determinedly pushing past the rift to focus on his future?

About 750 people in Birmingham have an inkling, after seeing Buckingham perform with his solo band on Monday at the Lyric Theatre. The singer-guitarist, 69, was large and in charge at this sold-out show, delivering nearly two hours of music with passion and intensity.

Buckingham’s 9 p.m. setlist, 21 songs full, reached into the past, pulled from his hit list and offered listeners a mini-retrospective of his solo career. His work with Fleetwood Mac was part of the mix — ticketholders likely would rebel if Buckingham ignored that — but the primary emphasis was on his very own catalog.

Buckingham’s selections included “Trouble” (a standout on his first solo album, 1981’s “Law and Order”), “Go Insane” (the title track from his 1984 record and a top 40 single) and “Holiday Road” (featured in the 1983 movie “National Lampoon’s Vacation”). The artist also chose lesser-known but equally effective tunes such as “I Must Go,” “Doing What I Can,” “Don’t Look Down,” “Turn it On,” “Down on Rodeo” and “Treason.”

His skills as a guitarist were abundantly on display, via percussive picking and sinewy solos, and Buckingham displayed a certain amount of stage swagger. He became playful during at least one of his interactions with the band — was that a modified duckwalk? — and Buckingham’s voice, although not consistently strong, rang out with clarity and conviction throughout much of the show.

Buckingham’s confidence in front of a crowd is a given. His outsize talent is, too, and it served him well here in 2012, during a one-man show at the Alys Stephens Center. On that occasion, Buckingham came off as stellar but rather severe, keeping himself at a distance from the crowd. This time, though, he seemed to have something to prove: Buckingham tried harder, played longer, talked more, smiled often and made a concerted effort to show his appreciation for the audience.

Although you’d never call him emotionally vulnerable, Buckingham let his reserve melt and he opened up a bit, telling listeners that he was beginning a new chapter with this four-man band. He said it several times, in fact, mentioning an album that’s in the works as part of his “new start."

In this context, some of the songs on Buckingham’s agenda — “Shut Us Down,” “Go Your Own Way,” “Never Going Back Again” — could be interpreted as mission statements, declaring his final independence from Fleetwood Mac and his resolution to thrive on his own.

“I love all of you for being here,” Buckingham said. And it was easy to believe that he meant it.

The affection went both ways, of course. Birmingham’s love affair with Buckingham dates back to 1975, when he and Stevie Nicks performed at Municipal Auditorium (now called Boutwell Auditorium) to promote their self-titled debut album, “Buckingham Nicks.”

Thanks to airplay on a local radio station, the record was wholeheartedly embraced here, and Birmingham was one of a few cities where fans turned out in force for the duo. Buckingham and Nicks, who were shortly to join Fleetwood Mac, have said the Birmingham concert provided their first taste of stardom.

45 years later Buckingham Nicks album still casts spell

Stevie Nicks and Lindsey Buckingham's pre-Fleetwood Mac LP was a flop, but duo found unlikely stardom in Alabama.

Buckingham made sure to acknowledge that connection during Monday’s appearance, reminiscing about the Buckingham Nicks show and paying gracious tribute to those long-ago ticketholders.

“There are people here who saw Stevie and me back then,” Buckingham said. “And it’s great. It’s so circular.”

At this point in his career, Buckingham certainly has no need to court an audience, but it was gratifying — and kind of refreshing — to see him do so at the Lyric. In a way, Buckingham was asking listeners to stick with him, Fleetwood Mac or no Fleetwood Mac.

With a standing ovation, shouts and cheers, Birmingham fans responded with a resounding yes.

The Chain

11-13-2018, 08:19 PM

The only moments I wasn't really into: I've never enjoyed the repetitive "I Must Go" and the live version doesn't enchant me any more than the original. Also, the "silence of stone" bridge of "Surrender the Rain" was quite obviously not him actually singing. He needs to either drop it down an octave so he can sing it himself or make that recording sound more natural. It was jarring and took me out of the moment of a lovely song. Otherwise, I was happy as can be with the show.

I noticed the same thing, and was even wondering if it was not just a piped in track that he was lip syncing to, but perhaps a vocal pedal, tweaking his voice in real time. As a vocalist in a band myself, I've got a few effects pedals with gender settings, basically just slow-mo'ing or chipmunking your voice at extremes, with everything in between possible, and they can be applied very easily live.:shrug:

button-lip

11-13-2018, 09:45 PM

Wow, so much class. And he’s really demonstrated classy behavior throughout this situation. That’s the part that hurts the most about this situation. The history between these two people.
My curiosity is burning though, I wonder if it made its way back to her?

I'm sure it did. And I don't think he will get a response for some time. Maybe San Jose does to her what Birmingham did to him. :shrug:

sodascouts

11-14-2018, 04:09 PM

I noticed the same thing, and was even wondering if it was not just a piped in track that he was lip syncing to, but perhaps a vocal pedal, tweaking his voice in real time. As a vocalist in a band myself, I've got a few effects pedals with gender settings, basically just slow-mo'ing or chipmunking your voice at extremes, with everything in between possible, and they can be applied very easily live.:shrug:

I suppose it could have been, but it didn't sound "chipmunked," just a bit "off." My money is on lip syncing. Regardless, IMHO, it didn't work. It's a shame, because I love that song.

sodascouts

11-14-2018, 04:12 PM

A couple more videos:

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The Chain

11-14-2018, 04:26 PM

I suppose it could have been, but it didn't sound "chipmunked," just a bit "off." My money is on lip syncing. Regardless, IMHO, it didn't work. It's a shame, because I love that song.

Yeah, you don't have to go full chipmunk on such pedals lol, you can shift your voice's pitch slightly in either direction, to make it a little deeper or higher.. but you're probably right, Linds prob wouldn't go to that trouble if he could just pipe it in.. if he is, kind of a low point for him in his karaoke backing-track era:sorry:

gldstwmn

11-14-2018, 04:44 PM

I'm sure it did. And I don't think he will get a response for some time. Maybe San Jose does to her what Birmingham did to him. :shrug:

The response will come in the ad libs at the end of Gold Dust Woman, maybe even tonight. http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll27/christina_fox1/45788845_10213148209679314_4837425492300660736_n_zpsevgbicwg.jpg (http://s284.photobucket.com/user/christina_fox1/media/45788845_10213148209679314_4837425492300660736_n_zpsevgbicwg.jpg.html)

bombaysaffires

11-14-2018, 04:53 PM

The Chain

11-14-2018, 05:38 PM

The response will come in the ad libs at the end of Gold Dust Woman, maybe even tonight. http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll27/christina_fox1/45788845_10213148209679314_4837425492300660736_n_zpsevgbicwg.jpg (http://s284.photobucket.com/user/christina_fox1/media/45788845_10213148209679314_4837425492300660736_n_zpsevgbicwg.jpg.html)

That's funny, he's certainly saved/fixed one or two of her lackluster songs in the past... As for taking someone down, the person who's recently had a hand in that is Stevie herself. And that someone was Lindsey. Nice try, though.

button-lip

11-14-2018, 07:39 PM

That's funny, he's certainly saved/fixed one or two of her lackluster songs in the past... As for taking someone down, the person who's recently had a hand in that is Stevie herself. And that someone was Lindsey. Nice try, though.

Oh, but she’s ALWAYS the victim. Don’t you ever forget that.

elle

11-14-2018, 11:07 PM

here is a video of 99.9% of the Shut Us Down dedication (yay!) -

https://www.facebook.com/esknight/videos/10157871813059863/

ryan4136

11-15-2018, 07:24 AM

I always thought these Stevie lines were the most telling of all to the lack of communication since 2000 between the two.

"She rarely goes out
She spends every day
Waiting for the day
When everybody finds out
Don't you know, don't you know
You can't love him
You can't have him
I do have him, most of the time
Anywhere we can
Anytime we can
Get away, get away"

sleepless child

11-15-2018, 03:28 PM

God, this makes me cry. What could this man possibly have done to have gotten fired.

I've always been a huge Stevie fan, but this year, I have become a bigger Lindsey fan. This has always been one of my favorite songs and the whole album is also one of my favs.

sodascouts

11-15-2018, 07:28 PM

God, this makes me cry. What could this man possibly have done to have gotten fired.

It breaks my heart when I think of all the history between them that has been torn asunder! It's an absolute tragedy.

bombaysaffires

11-16-2018, 01:34 AM

Frankenstein

11-17-2018, 12:17 AM

The response will come in the ad libs at the end of Gold Dust Woman, maybe even tonight. http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll27/christina_fox1/45788845_10213148209679314_4837425492300660736_n_zpsevgbicwg.jpg (http://s284.photobucket.com/user/christina_fox1/media/45788845_10213148209679314_4837425492300660736_n_zpsevgbicwg.jpg.html)

I see everyone speculating that these ad-libs are a message to LB, but she’s been singing them at the end of GDW for years

secondhandchain

11-17-2018, 05:28 PM

The response will come in the ad libs at the end of Gold Dust Woman, maybe even tonight. http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll27/christina_fox1/45788845_10213148209679314_4837425492300660736_n_zpsevgbicwg.jpg (http://s284.photobucket.com/user/christina_fox1/media/45788845_10213148209679314_4837425492300660736_n_zpsevgbicwg.jpg.html)

Yeah because she's a bitter old hag. He was classy....she got him fired.

dreamsunwind

11-17-2018, 06:30 PM

I see everyone speculating that these ad-libs are a message to LB, but she’s been singing them at the end of GDW for years

Lol right? She's done things like that for lots of songs throughout the years. And even if it was a "response" what is it even supposed to mean lmao.

Storms123

11-17-2018, 06:41 PM

Lol right? She's done things like that for lots of songs throughout the years. And even if it was a "response" what is it even supposed to mean lmao.

She's been ad libbing this song, and many others for years. She has no problem tossing out a dedication when the mood suits her. Methinks folks are reading into this iteration a bit too much. But I guess if it suits the narrative one is trying to spin, so be it....?........

DownOnRodeo

11-18-2018, 06:01 AM

elle

11-18-2018, 12:21 PM

Here it is folks.

https://youtu.be/CqL2Httbryw
Lindsey Buckingham - Shut Us Down - Live in Alabama November 12, 2018

Found through Twitter.
It doesn't include the speech at the start, or the couple of lines of the song.
yeah that one is somewhere up here shared already. as is the video of his speech (without the last line of the speech):
here is a video of 99.9% of the Shut Us Down dedication (yay!) -

https://www.facebook.com/esknight/videos/10157871813059863/

come on man - we are anxiously awaiting your review!! how was it? i've heard that Birmingham got Rodeo thanks to you?!

DownOnRodeo

11-18-2018, 08:54 PM

Oh, that's great that the speech was recorded.
Yes, he finished the speech and then returned to the mic to say that "maybe, just maybe" he'd like to dedicate the song to Stevie.

You'll have to wait a bit for my review--I'm like Lindsey with his perfectionism and time-taking. :nod: I think it might be you who I have to thank for getting DOR played, though. Thank you so much for your advocacy on Twitter!

jmn3

11-18-2018, 10:48 PM

She's been ad libbing this song, and many others for years. She has no problem tossing out a dedication when the mood suits her. Methinks folks are reading into this iteration a bit too much. But I guess if it suits the narrative one is trying to spin, so be it....?........

There was that time in 1990 when she belted out (to Mick obviously, because that's who she hated that time.. :rolleyes:) "take your silver SPRINGS....and dig your grave!"

But these current ad libs have been around a while. I'm with you but I suppose it's entirely possible she was singing them for the last few tours with the intent of Lindsey having to suck it up and play through it similar to the 1990 silver springs wahhhhhh-fest.

Storms123

11-18-2018, 11:04 PM

There was that time in 1990 when she belted out (to Mick obviously, because that's who she hated that time.. :rolleyes:) "take your silver SPRINGS....and dig your grave!"

But these current ad libs have been around a while. I'm with you but I suppose it's entirely possible she was singing them for the last few tours with the intent of Lindsey having to suck it up and play through it similar to the 1990 silver springs wahhhhhh-fest.

That is hilarious. I love that!

DownOnRodeo

11-23-2018, 01:30 AM

Posting the first half of my review today as a Thanksgiving to all my North American friends here.

The trip.

I live in Tokyo. I took one week off work and travelled on a direct flight to the Empire State, appropriately watching LBJ on the way over. After two days in the Big Apple (which was just enough!), it was back to JFK Airport for my flights down to the southern states (where I had heard rumor that a talented young musician by the name of Buckingham was touring..).

There I was, sitting at the airport gate at 4:30 am on the day of the concert, thinking about the day ahead and filled with uncertainty about all the unknowns (Would the flights be on time? Would I survive driving on the wrong side of the road? Would I find the way without GPS? Would I make it in time for the concert? Would I get on well with the fans I was meeting? Would the jetlag hold off until after the concert?)--and then I hear a familiar synthesizer sound playing through the airport concourse: it was Seven Wonders. An encouraging omen!

On the flight from NYC to Charlotte, I watched a documentary called Three Identical Strangers--about triplets who were separated at birth and later reunited. Now, I was jetlagged and sleep-deprived and it was 5 am at 35,000 feet, with plans to see a Lindsey Buckingham concert later that very same day, but I swear that the triplets looked like a young Lindsey!

Bluegrass country

From Memphis it was driving. Not only had I never driven on right side of road before, there was heavy rain and very poor visibility. Being unfamiliar with sitting on the left seat of the car, I was constantly veering to the right shoulder of the road.

After a brief stopover at The Mississippi Museum Of Fleetwood Mac Memorabilia (owned and operated by a megafan who even has expert commentary published in literature on the subject (https://www.amazon.com/Fleetwood-Mac-FAQ-Iconic-Survivors/dp/1617136670)) (NB: "museum" closed to the general public! :-)), three of us fans embarked on a road trip to the concert!

The venue.

The venue--a restored old concert hall in downtown Birmingham called the Lyric Theatre--was gorgeous. Buckingham Nicks had performed there back in the day.

It was rainy for pretty much the whole 24 hours I was down Dixie way, and before they let us in for the Meet and Greet we were all locked outside the venue in the wet and cold, peering in through the glass to where the tour and venue personnel were standing around in the warm and spacious foyer inside. It was a most unbecoming experience for a so-called VIP package, but each venue is different I guess.

The merchandise was fun to get. Some of the notebooks were in slightly poor repair--sizeable dents in the faux-leather covers, etc. I picked up a signed copy of the 3-CD Anthology. But because it’s a cardboard case, there was nothing to protect the signed cover. And the merch seller didn’t have anything to offer except a bunch of napkins, which I gladly accepted! So that was the crown in my VIP cake--”deluxe napkin wrapping” for a signed CD! I also ended up getting the LB tote bag (justified it as a means of transporting the merch).

Meet and greet.

The theatre was incredibly similar in scale, layout and design to the Majestic Theatre on Broadway, where I’d just seen The Phantom Of The Opera two days prior. And here I was about to see another tortured musical genius who crafts beautiful music for a backstabbing diva!

Standing in line for the meet and greet, we were positioned behind the backing screen against which the photos are taken. The result was that Lindsey’s silhouette was projected onto the screen for us to watch while we waited for our turn. It was quite entertaining. He may be stone-faced and still in the photos, but watching him between snaps was like watching Indonesian shadow puppet theatre--a lithe, gesturing, cavorting silhouette.

We were near the end of the line. As our turns came closer, we got to hear some of what Lindsey was saying to the other meet and greeters. It was difficult to pay full attention because we were also anxious about our own impending minute with him. But I caught the tail end of one conversation. Lindsey was saying to one of the fans, “...Well it’s about motivating people. I was thinking we’d do a reunion… But people weren’t interested… Well, certain people.”

(to be continued on Side B)
(Disclaimer in advance--regrettably I didn't take any notes during the concert so I don't have much in the way of song-by-song commentary.)

DownOnRodeo

11-23-2018, 05:01 AM

Lest I never get around to it, here is the rest of the review as well!

Moment with Lindsey.

Knowing that the ladies I was with would be dressed to kill, I did my best too and bought a suave leather jacket on sale at Macy’s in NYC. I’d like to think I nailed the “Lindsey look”--or a close approximation thereof.

When it was my turn, I stepped forward and said, “Hey, man.” (I’d decided to start with his language--Californianese.) I went on to say that I live in Japan but had travelled here to the Birmingham show. (According to my friend, at this juncture Lindsey said “Wow, you came from Japan? Thank you!”--but I was too focused on my own spiel to remember that myself.) I told him that I had been vacillating about whether to do the trip, but had heard that he was playing Down On Rodeo in the setlist, and saw that he had posted on Twitter that the meaning of the song was about taking the plunge, so I decided to do it. At this point Lindsey said, “Which song?” (Which was doubly funny, because I’d spent the entire road trip to the venue coaching my friend on how to enunciate her favorite song title more clearly when she mentioned it to him. I should have been rehearsing how to say “Down On Rodeo” clearly!) Who knows how I pronounced it--"Dorritos", probably. But he heard it on my second attempt. He laughed and said, “Well.. that’s what I think the song means.” (The subtext in his demeanour when he said this seemed to be, “You’re free to enjoy the songs as your own!”)

We had our standard photo taken. Then I asked the photographer if we could take one more. I said to Lindsey, “Can we do this?” and I held up my hands in that “namaste” position he puts them in sometimes. He was laughing with surprise and was like, “What? I do that?”

“Yeah, like when you talk,” I said. He was apparently laughing pretty much all the time before and after the photo was taken--and sure enough in the second photo he is somewhat smiling. BUT stupid me had on my Lindsey Face! What was I thinking? Also my “prayer hands” were all askew! (In retrospect, I had meant to rehearse the pose more in advance but then forgot all about it.) So it’s probably not the most shareable pic unfortunately; although Lindsey came out great in it. I hung around and got a group pic with Lindsey and my two fellow fans as well.

Before the concert.

It was difficult to find any restaurants in downtown Birmingham open past 6pm on a Monday night. We ended up finding a nearby place that Google Maps claimed offered “comfort food”--which turned out to be inauthentic Japanese gourmet finger food… hardly comfort food for me, and certainly not for the US locals accompanying me! It was a fun twist in the evening though. In the end we fared better at the venue’s bar, grabbing a drink to take into the show. By that point, J.S.’s set was half over. He had an eerily terrific voice. I’d only just re-read To Kill A Mockingbird before doing this trip--in that context, watching J.S. perform here in command of the audience and get a rousing reception was meaningful.

Am I the only one who would have really liked J.S. to come back on stage for just one of the Lindsey songs and join in on the vocals? (Say, the Stevie harmonies on I’m So Afraid?) I mean, he’s there. I think it would be a nice gesture from Lindsey and lend a nice coherence to the evening.

Lindsey sings.

There was a bubbly fan from Genoa, Italy sitting next to me who had been to about three shows already and was probably going to the next one as well. It was reassuring that I wasn’t the only one who had made such a big trip out if this tour. If you ever wonder who is the random person who yelps out during the quietest moment of an acoustic song--it is this person. Lol But she was lovely, and her enthusiasm was infectious. I was lucky to be seated next to her.

I think this was one of the most perfect concerts to go to out of this tour in terms of Lindsey’s voice. It was right in the middle of the tour, so he knew exactly what he was doing. But it was the first concert after a few days’ break, so his voice was in top form. I mean, really--he LANDED every note strong and full. I saw an otherwise positive local review that suggested he didn’t always have full voice strength or something. That guy must have been at a different concert. I was blown away by every note Lindsey sang. IMO, better than any of his live recordings post-The Dance.

It also made me think that he must have improved his technique in recent years, or even this year. He seemed to strategically inhale a lot of air through his nose, like the swimmer he is, right before songs and at certain key points during them. It worked. Also, all the backing sampling etc. seems to allow him to focus on voice quality rather than always doing everything at once--a bit closer to like Stevie has the luxury of doing when she performs. But Stevie doesn’t sound as good and strong as this for 21 songs in a row, even with her 3 days off between shows.

And then all the color. There were so many places where he had just the right vibrato, just the right accent, just the right ending note. As examples, look no further than the videos posted in this thread.

Also, this was the first concert after the mid-terms, so I figure that the Dem victory in the House must have given him some extra good vibes, considering the campaigning he’d done on that front.

Lindsey plays.

I’ve always wondered how Lindsey’s fingers can sustain such playing.

Something I did notice during Not Too Late, from my front row, right side vantage, was that (in my opinion) some sort of support/backing track is being used on the constant fingerpicking part in Not Too Late, such that he can better focus on landing those chorus vocals, and to give his fingers a bit of a break. BUT it was definitely him playing the guitar at the end of the song, so either way I imagine that it’s a mix of both. Let’s face it--the guitar on that song is insane; so if he’s doing that as well as Big Love etc. night after night, the man would have no fingers left. Then there’s also his age. Meanwhile, my friend who was also in front row didn’t necessarily agree with my theory anyway.

Big, busy bass.

They really found a way to bring all these solo songs to life. The drummer was great but Frederico on bass was a revelation to me. Because I was front row I felt a lot of eye contact with Lindsey (even if it was my imagination--after all, he can’t really see the audience most of the time, I imagine), and for some reason I began to feel like that airplane pilot in Seinfeld who sits in the audience during Jerry’s set and freaks him out.

Searching for somewhere else to rest my eyes, I found a goldmine in Frederico. It was so much fun to watch him play the bass parts on many of the songs--especially on the chorus of I Must Go, the one redeeming feature for me of that otherwise endlessly repetitive song. Honestly, how does Lindsey even keep track of how many “I must gos” he’s meant to be singing? Clearly there is some kind of arcane logic to that song that makes perfect sense to him, but not me.

Shut Us Down.

As widely reported, this song was a standout among standouts, particularly in the context of the Buckingham Nicks speech and Stevie dedication he preceded it with.

Sodascouts mentions in her review that she thinks he was tearing up a bit at the start of this. I just thought he was doing his air intaking thing through his nose, but she might very well be right! I like how the “as long as I can” parts have been shortened just slightly, to better match lung capacity.

The Alabama crowd.

There was a good mix in the audience, although generally skewing older. Which was brilliant, because it felt so significant to be here at a Lindsey concert with these people who had likely been following him from before Fleetwood Mac. Sure enough, when Lindsey did his Buckingham Nicks and Alabama talk before Shut Us Down, he called out to those older fans in the audience, and I looked across and saw a bunch of them hollering back at him. I felt transported back across the years. I could see they were the same people as when they were young--the magic of music.

One of them, who was also in front of me in line at the meet and greet, was a veritable Lindsey lookalike--with the 2000s Lindsey hair, leather jacket and all. In fact, it’s the guy that Elle quoted from Twitter in this thread! It would have been fascinating to hang out with some of these people if there had been more time after the show--for example, if the meet and greet had been after the show.

The security.

So this venue had a good cop, bad cop thing going on with the security guards. Both were sitting on chairs with their backs to the stage, facing the front row of the audience. They were not way off to the side--they were quite a few seats in. One was frequently turning around to watch the show, and was thumping his leg along with the music and really enjoying it. The other one, however, looked highly disinterested and was chewing gum with a surly, bored look. He was right in my line of sight--not blocking my view per se, but very much in the corner of my eye. But more to the point, I was definitely in his line of sight, and it was a real wet blanket effect feeling monitored that way.

Clearly I wasn’t the only one who felt the dampening effect of their presence, because only about three isolated individuals stood up during Tusk/GYOW (one of which, the bubbly Genovese next to me, was told by a person behind her to sit down halfway through). It was VERY weird to be sitting during Tusk and GYOW--not because I go to heaps of shows and am used to people standing during those songs; just because the songs make you want to stand and move!
I’m fairly tall and I have a big of a complex about standing up in front of others (even sitting in front of others), although on the Say You Will tour the stage was much higher so it wasn’t an issue at all.

Once the encores started, a brave megafan in the front row took the lead and went to the stage--after which everyone followed (it felt like the whole first floor was at the stage). What’s more, neither of the security guys displayed any concern whatsoever. They just sat where they’d been sitting the whole time, now surrounded by standing fans. Before he began singing the first encore, Lindsey says with puzzled irony, “Oh, so now you’re allowed up front!” But I felt a bit weird that now we were all standing for what are fairly soft encore songs, especially given that we’d been sitting through the likes of Tusk. And I think that Lindsey was also laughing and shaking his head about the fact that we had been seated for the rockers and were standing for the ballads.

Check out the recording of Big Love from this concert, posted above in this thread. That’s my head down in front row! (There I am caught on camera sneaking a drink at the start of Big Love; a local cocktail called a “Birmingham Mule”, in fact.) And you can also see the “wet blanket” security guard sitting right in front of me...

After the music ended...

As has been reported, DownOnRodeo got his Down On Rodeo. And although Lindsey thankfully seems to have now added it back into the setlist somewhat permanently, the Birmingham show was right between a number of shows at which he did not play it, so I can’t help but feel that it was a close call. It was only later that I saw some Tweets by elle and wondergirl (Christy) trying to advertise my little story to Lindsey (and Kristen!), so if the decision to include Rodeo that night had anything at all to do with my being there, I most likely have those two to thank!

Lindsey introduced Brett as “the guy who knows where all the bodies are buried”--not sure if that’s his standard patter. Brett made a funny throat-cutting and eye-rolling gesture, ie that Lindsey should stop talking.

After the Southern sojourn, my trip continued to New England--four days in New Haven, Plymouth and Boston. The cashier at a Boston bookstore noticed my suitcase and asked me if I was coming or going. I told her where I’d been that week and she said that I’d probably seen more of the US than she. Later, at the pizza restaurant across the road from the bookstore, the “Psychemagik” remix of Dreams was playing over the soundsystem.

A new cycle.

For me, at this juncture, Fleetwood Mac is just one of the bands that Lindsey Buckingham has been in in the past, along with Fritz and Buckingham Nicks. Fleetwood Mac’s appeal is to me now diluted beyond all recognition, while that of Lindsey Buckingham is now more distilled and concentrated than ever before. You can have all the bluesy, hippie pre-Rumours Fleetwood Mac you like; for me, Lindsey brought the sensibility that I most like about the band’s music. And now he’s given us so much, much more in these past two decades--both with that band and solo.

Now, even without dipping very far at all into his Fleetwood Mac catalogue, he has a large enough body of work--from the past, and hopefully the future--that can stand, run, and jump on its own. And so can he--along with his latest, groovy band!

elle

11-23-2018, 12:51 PM

Wow so looking forward to reading this DownOnRodeo. And he did Rodeo because you told him about your love for it and traveling from Japan. I have no doubt about it. We did Twitter campaign for other shows too but he specifically did it at you show!

DownOnRodeo

11-23-2018, 07:45 PM

Forgot to mention--After a lengthy discussion with fellow fans, it was agreed that the theory that Lindsey wrote I Don't Want To Know was "without a leg to stand on," so I decided not to ask Lindsey about it during the meet and greet (plus, I didn't really want to be asking a Stevie-related question anyway).

While we were flank to flank looking at the camera getting our photo taken, I said quietly to Lindsey, "Thank you for your work." Emotions were high in that moment so that's all that came out, lol. Wish now that I'd said a bit more along those lines, but I guess he's heard it all before anyway. (Or, after a life of rocking and recording he probably has poor hearing, he may not have even heard me at all :().

lovethemac1

11-24-2018, 11:34 AM

luminol

11-24-2018, 12:52 PM

I am late reading this, but this is incredibly powerful... just wow... I am tearing up reading it all. I wish I'd managed to score tickets to this show (I tried!). I attended Chattanooga the following night instead (and it was a great show but no mention of FM or Stevie, of course, and not the same level of personal emotion, it seems).

I am continuously amazed at how classy he has been through this shocking situation. Such immense betrayal and yet he hasn't bitten back. It breaks my heart for him after all his contributions and getting her into the band to start.

I used to love Stevie but after this, I just can't find much affection for her anymore. This is just me rambling but I think comparing her solo work to her songs in FM reveals a lot about her abilities. Her solo work (to me) just cannot compare to her gems on FM albums. And the reason is, of course, that Lindsey and numerous other musicians and producers elevated her poems into incredible, masterful works of art. However she doesn't have those same helping hands on her solo albums, and it shows. I never, and I sincerely mean NEVER, want to listen to any of her solo work. I do however listen to Lindsey's frequently.

Such a sad situation but I'm glad he's making the most of it. I will be back when the small machine comes back through.

Thanks again to all for the details and reviews of this moment and show.

elle

11-24-2018, 10:29 PM

Sat down with a hot tea, and my iPad to read your review Joe.
Absolutely loved every minute of it. It was like going to the concert with you.
Thank you. :xoxo:

same! :]

thanks so much for such a nice detailed story of your whiole trip DownOnRodeo! i was loling at yoour description of you guys watching LB's animated silhouette through that background thingy during m&gs. and so glad you and sodascouts and a friend managed to get together and enjoy it. and the Italian Girl! short blonde right? she's everywhere, she was last year at tons of BuckVie shows too!

David

11-25-2018, 02:20 PM

There's an old ledgie named Paolo from Genoa. Does he know this other girl?

DownOnRodeo

11-26-2018, 03:55 AM

There's an old ledgie named Paolo from Genoa. Does he know this other girl?

David: "Genoa?"
Paolo: "Do I ever!"

DownOnRodeo

11-27-2018, 08:11 PM

sodascouts

11-29-2018, 05:17 PM

Thank you so much for adding your review, Joe! I 100% believe we got "Down on Rodeo" thanks to you, and it was only right that he perform it after what you told him.

I'll never forget being front row center for this show, and getting to look right into his eyes as he sang some of the more intense songs (including "Shut Us Down" - and I saw more than a breathing exercise after that first line, my friend!) It was an amazing show and I can't wait for him to circle back around.

Fleetwood Mac is just a shadow of its former self, but Lindsey continues to fly high. Still, I am just so freaking sad I can't be enjoying both of them now, and wish so very much that they could have worked it out.

Anyway, Joe, it was such a pleasure to finally meet you "in real life" after all these years. I'm just sorry your stay was so short, and I hope one day we will find ourselves in the same place at the same time once more.