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David
10-22-2018, 03:39 PM
Have we thought about who we want to present Stevie's induction?


Sheryl Crow
Mike Campbell
Lady Antebellum
Haim
Chrissie Hynde
Billy Corgan
Courtney Love (is she still alive?)
Ryan Murphy
Dave Stewart
Adam Levine
Lindsey Buckingham

BombaySapphire3
10-22-2018, 03:59 PM
Sheryl already inducted Fleetwood Mac ..I dunno how about the ghost of Bob Welch:shrug:

bwboy
10-22-2018, 05:43 PM
Have we thought about who we want to present Stevie's induction?


Sheryl Crow
Mike Campbell
Lady Antebellum
Haim
Chrissie Hynde
Billy Corgan
Courtney Love (is she still alive?)
Ryan Murphy
Dave Stewart
Adam Levine
Lindsey Buckingham


Your last suggestion nearly made me fall off the couch :laugh::laugh::laugh: Funniest thing I've seen in a while! But the rest of your list sounds really plausible, especially Adam Levine, Courtney Love, and Billy Corgan. Maybe Harry Styles is another possibility?

I think it would be awesome if Christine McVie presented the honor- first, I think it would be touching, because Christine avoids the limelight but would probably do it for Stevie and second, it would be fabulous to see Christine doing something like that.

jwd
10-22-2018, 05:46 PM
IF Stevie gets in this time, I'd say it will be Mick.

He's her biggest cheerleader. He's been her lover and her friend. He's worked with her in FM and her solo career as well. Her partner in crime. They are inseparable. I wonder what he'd say about the GDW?!

reebokandlace
10-22-2018, 05:54 PM
Natalie Maines
Sarah McLachlan
Joan Baez
Vanessa Carlton

FM77
10-22-2018, 05:57 PM
None of the above...most likely Jimmy Iovine.

lovethemac1
10-22-2018, 08:19 PM
I vote for Don Henley and Joe Walsh together :lol::lol::lol:

StreetAngel86
10-22-2018, 09:29 PM
+1
Lindsey Buckingham.


i will fly there myself to laugh at this happen :lol:

I vote for Don Henley and Joe Walsh together :lol::lol::lol:


Lindsey. Don AND Joe

#dead

Storms123
10-22-2018, 09:30 PM
I am hard pressed to think anyone from FM will be involved. Mick will probably go b/c he loves/wants/needs the publicity she helps bring to FM, but I think they will largely stay away. I agree on the Jimmy Iovine angle given he helped launch her solo career, which is what this would be honoring.

DownOnRodeo
10-22-2018, 09:37 PM
(Assuming she "wins"), Stevie and her minders will ensure that the presenter is the person with the biggest name value and cache. Don't like your chances, Mick.

lovethemac1
10-22-2018, 09:39 PM
+1
Lindsey Buckingham.


i will fly there myself to laugh at this happen :lol:




Lindsey. Don AND Joe

#dead

:laugh::laugh::laugh: I will join you, because that would be pretty entertaining.

Fannymac
10-22-2018, 10:59 PM
I would have said Sheryl, Chrissie or HAIM, but I doubt they would have Sheryl do it again, and as much as Chrissie has bonded with Stevie, she had to be dragged kicking and screaming to her own induction, so I just don't see it!
So.....in addition to attracting a younger audience....I would go with HAIM!

gldstwmn
10-23-2018, 01:08 AM
I think it would be awesome if Christine McVie presented the honor- first, I think it would be touching, because Christine avoids the limelight but would probably do it for Stevie and second, it would be fabulous to see Christine doing something like that.
Christine gets my vote.

gldstwmn
10-23-2018, 01:10 AM
None of the above...most likely Jimmy Iovine.

Love this idea. Also I think Grace Slick would be an excellent choice.

FuzzyPlum
10-23-2018, 08:17 AM
Love this idea. Also I think Grace Slick would be an excellent choice.

You've got more chance of sh***ing in the Queens handbag.
Why you would want to though...I don't know.

FuzzyPlum
10-23-2018, 08:30 AM
Dave Grohl?
Florence Welch?
Haim or Sheryl Crow most likely though.

Feather Blade
10-23-2018, 10:45 AM
Love this idea. Also I think Grace Slick would be an excellent choice.

Didn't Grace have some nasty things to say at one point about how awful she thought it was for rock bands to still be playing when they got older?

gldstwmn
10-23-2018, 12:10 PM
Didn't Grace have some nasty things to say at one point about how awful she thought it was for rock bands to still be playing when they got older?

She did. I know she's one of the few females left that Stevie has said influenced her early on. I figured they could just cut the mic if she starts talking about Germany. :lol::lol::lol: But Jimmy Iovine for the win. That's going to be great.:lol:

David
10-23-2018, 02:34 PM
She did. I know she's one of the few females left that Stevie has said influenced her early on. I figured they could just cut the mic if she starts talking about Germany. :lol::lol::lol: But Jimmy Iovine for the win. That's going to be great.:lol: Iovine and Dave Grohl are two very obvious, apt choices I just totally spaced on. They're both industry heavies, much loved, status guys who would very willingly induct Stevie. Henley would also be an obviously good choice. (If Frey were still alive, he and Henley together would have been a remarkable pair to induct Stevie. I can almost hear them now, kidding around a bit and being genuinely proud of her.) Harry Styles, too.

What about Jessica Lange and Ryan Murphy?

gldstwmn
10-23-2018, 05:47 PM
Iovine and Dave Grohl are two very obvious, apt choices I just totally spaced on. They're both industry heavies, much loved, status guys who would very willingly induct Stevie. Henley would also be an obviously good choice. (If Frey were still alive, he and Henley together would have been a remarkable pair to induct Stevie. I can almost hear them now, kidding around a bit and being genuinely proud of her.) Harry Styles, too.

What about Jessica Lange and Ryan Murphy?

Henley would make an incredible speech. It would be cool if she and Dave did that Hendrix flavored version of GDW they did for the Sound City mini tour. I think she will only do solo hits for her performance which would be a great reason to see it live. I would watch Jessica Lange in just about anything but I think she and Ryan Murphy are relatively new acquaintances.

Storms123
10-23-2018, 08:27 PM
Or the entire Coven from AHS?
Personally, for any creditability for her solo work, which she is potentially getting inducted for, it should be Iovine on his own inducting her. Grohl, Crow, Lady Antebellum, Miley, Haim, Vanessa.....sing her classics out loud and proud. I think anyone associated with or playing in any version of FM should stay away. Iovine should induct her solo. It gives her more credibility, especially now. She was always pretty vocal about separating the 2, and her crew here (right now) is slightly diminished.

jwd
10-26-2018, 07:23 PM
Iovine and Dave Grohl are two very obvious, apt choices I just totally spaced on. They're both industry heavies, much loved, status guys who would very willingly induct Stevie. Henley would also be an obviously good choice. (If Frey were still alive, he and Henley together would have been a remarkable pair to induct Stevie. I can almost hear them now, kidding around a bit and being genuinely proud of her.) Harry Styles, too.

What about Jessica Lange and Ryan Murphy?


Harry could nominate and duet with Stevie on "Stop Dragging My Heart Around".



Anyone else think Pat Benatar had a more successful solo career than Stevie? Is she in yet?




The song that beat Stevie's "Stand Back" for a Grammy.



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BombaySapphire3
10-26-2018, 08:55 PM
Harry could nominate and duet with Stevie on "Stop Dragging My Heart Around".



Anyone else think Pat Benatar had a more successful solo career than Stevie? Is she in yet?




The song that beat Stevie's "Stand Back" for a Grammy.



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Benatars last top 10 Billboard album was 1982's Get Nervous.:shrug:

jwd
10-26-2018, 09:10 PM
Benatars last top 10 Billboard album was 1982's Get Nervous.:shrug:


"Invincible" and "We Belong" went to the Top 10 in '85. :shrug: In the same time period, early to mid 80s where Stevie and Pat were most successful, I believe Pat was more successful than Stevie solo.


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FuzzyPlum
10-28-2018, 08:35 AM
"Invincible" and "We Belong" went to the Top 10 in '85. :shrug: In the same time period, early to mid 80s where Stevie and Pat were most successful, I believe Pat was more successful than Stevie solo.




I'd say they had remarkably similar solo success both in terms of singles and albums. Perhaps Benatar had a slight edge. Stevie is more enduring and influential though.

gldstwmn
10-28-2018, 11:23 AM
"Invincible" and "We Belong" went to the Top 10 in '85. :shrug: In the same time period, early to mid 80s where Stevie and Pat were most successful, I believe Pat was more successful than Stevie solo.


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Perhaps but she doesn't have Stevie's songwriting capability.

jwd
10-28-2018, 11:25 AM
I'd say they had remarkably similar solo success both in terms of singles and albums. Perhaps Benatar had a slight edge. Stevie is more enduring and influential though.


If there is anything Stevie has over Pat is that she is indeed more influential and relevant today, even though Pat is still out there touring and sounding good. Bottom line is that these are two very strong women, both of whom have survived a male dominated business. Both of whom deserve to be in the RRHOF, and neither are, yet.

jwd
10-28-2018, 12:10 PM
Perhaps but she doesn't have Stevie's songwriting capability.


Linda Ronstadt didn't write any of her songs to the best of my knowledge. I'd say Pat had a stronger hand in writing some of her biggest hits than Stevie had in hers'. Examples, SDMHA and "Talk To Me" weren't written by Stevie. Anyway, not sure if songwriting is one thing "The Hall" looks at when nominating and voting an artist in.

Fannymac
10-30-2018, 01:57 PM
Hopefully Pat will get in in the next few years, but only after Carly Simon and Carole King!

jwd
10-30-2018, 06:00 PM
Hopefully Pat will get in in the next few years, but only after Carly Simon and Carole King!

I think she will, and they will. Geesh Carole King isn't in yet?!! I love Carly Simon too! Seems like R&R is still giving women the back seat. I brought up Pat because she and Stevie are so similar in when they attained great success as solo Rock women. Here's another good clip of Pat on Oprah with Avril Lavigne. Stevie and Joan Jett are mentioned at the end of the segment. Pat and Avril do "Love Is A Battlefield" together. Excellent!


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BLY
10-30-2018, 06:23 PM
Hopefully Pat will get in in the next few years, but only after Carly Simon and Carole King!

Amen to Carly Simon. She is my all time favorite female singer. Great albums, lyrics and vocal range.

Storms123
10-30-2018, 07:52 PM
Stevie has definitely stayed relevant in a more balances way--she's also transcended other genres and art forms in a way Pat Benatar has not. I also think Stevie's eclectic song writing style gives her a bit of an edge (I understand we aren't talking about the songwriters HOF). But the fact these 4 women aren't in yet....jeez. Carly Simon and Carole King give me goosebumps in ways no other artists can. As an aside, The Billy Joel Station (I believe it was the FM station a few months back) did a show with Billy playing the songs of the songwriters--and he spoke so highly of Carole and Carly. It amazing to hear artists fan girl over each other.

gldstwmn
10-30-2018, 11:40 PM
Linda Ronstadt didn't write any of her songs to the best of my knowledge. I'd say Pat had a stronger hand in writing some of her biggest hits than Stevie had in hers'. Examples, SDMHA and "Talk To Me" weren't written by Stevie. Anyway, not sure if songwriting is one thing "The Hall" looks at when nominating and voting an artist in.

I don't know. Pat was certainly a wonderfully trained singer in the classic sense. She even wrote some of her songs.
Someone once said that it sounds like Linda's voice cries a little when she sings and I think that description nails it. She sang folk, pop, rock Broadway show tunes and fronted Nelson Riddle's orchestra. Her voice is the product of a god given talent like that of being struck by lightning. They both belong there but for different reasons.

DownOnRodeo
10-31-2018, 01:25 AM
At the 0:40 mark of the We Belong video I thought she was clapping together two pieces of lettuce.

What about Cyndi Lauper? Maybe it's the look or the voice but she seems more "rock n roll" than Carole King or Pat Benatar, to me. (Obviously not intended to dismiss Carole King--who deserves something better than the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame anyway, such as the Gershwin Prize she's already pocketed.)

cbBen
10-31-2018, 04:32 AM
producer and co-writer

FuzzyPlum
10-31-2018, 03:42 PM
producer and co-writer


I thought Stevie had some sort of falling out with Dave. Or have I got that wrong?
Anyway, I don't think she'd see him as a big enough name to do the honours. He;s not really what you'd consider to be a big heavyweight within the rock world.

jwd
10-31-2018, 09:07 PM
At the 0:40 mark of the We Belong video I thought she was clapping together two pieces of lettuce.

What about Cyndi Lauper? Maybe it's the look or the voice but she seems more "rock n roll" than Carole King or Pat Benatar, to me. (Obviously not intended to dismiss Carole King--who deserves something better than the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame anyway, such as the Gershwin Prize she's already pocketed.)

I'm assuming you were under the influence, or just making a lame attempt at being funny, but I'd say she wasn't clapping two pieces of lettuce together, without even re-watching the video. :laugh:

Cyndi Lauper is more ROCK than Pat Benatar?! Now that's funny!

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What do ya got Cyndi? Hit me with your best shot!

DownOnRodeo
10-31-2018, 11:56 PM
It just happens in a split second so I had to attempt pausing the video quite a few times to confirm that it wasn't lettuce. (It was long green gloves by the way.)

dreamsunwind
11-01-2018, 03:14 PM
Probably Jimmy Iovine. But if Tom Petty was still alive it would've been him.

Mr Scarrott
11-01-2018, 07:59 PM
Stevie is so full of it these days that I wouldn't be surprised if she inducts herself.

DownOnRodeo
11-02-2018, 02:55 AM
Stevie is so full of it these days that I wouldn't be surprised if she inducts herself.

:lol::lol: This is doubly funny/sad because I can just about imagine it.
I Can't Wait.

I just realized--it only figures that Stevie and her management have been engineering a HOF induction. Stevie loves HALLS.

I float through the halls of the hospitals

Well, then suddenly
There was no one left standing
In the hall

Well, I went searching for an answer
Up the stairs...and down the hall

So she walks slowly down the hall
There are many doors in the hallway

cbBen
11-03-2018, 04:17 AM
Mick Fleetwood

sue
11-03-2018, 05:06 PM
Bette Miller and Jimmy Iovine

cbBen
11-04-2018, 03:42 AM
my prediction: Dave Grohl

Storms123
11-04-2018, 07:05 PM
Mick Fleetwood

I am guess she's going to be keeping her FM "family" very far away from this.

Feather Blade
11-04-2018, 07:59 PM
I am guess she's going to be keeping her FM "family" very far away from this.

Do the inductees have any say over who does it? How does it work?

Storms123
11-04-2018, 08:07 PM
Do the inductees have any say over who does it? How does it work?

I'm not really sure TBH, but I assume if they call up and say "I want ..... to induct" perhaps they can influence a bit...lol

DownOnRodeo
11-05-2018, 09:51 AM
Do the inductees have any say over who does it? How does it work?

The artist's management would definitely be orchestrating it all behind the scenes.
Because it plays into brand image etc.

I note that Def Leppard and Stevie are with the same management group.

David
11-05-2018, 04:09 PM
The artist's management would definitely be orchestrating it all behind the scenes.
Because it plays into brand image etc.
Much as I've always liked Sheryl Crow, I thought she was kind of a lightweight in 1998 when she inducted Fleetwood (she grew in musical stature later with The Globe Sessions). Everything she said was really vapid; do you remember her talking about the trendy shag haircut? And she didn't mention the great blues-rock years of the band at all.

Then again, the Eagles were inducted that same year by Jimmy Buffett, so let's be thankful for small favors.

I'd have been thrilled in 1998 if REM had done the honors, or Smashing Pumpkins or Courtney Love or Jane's Addiction or the Verve or Tonic or Ben Folds Five. But Sheryl in 1998 was more like the Dave Matthews Band—hitmakers but very adult-contemporary, which just reinforced Fleetwood Mac's innate blandness. Even Matchbox 20 would have been a little more exciting than Sheryl in 1998. The Foo Fighters wouldn't have done it in 1998—they probably hated Mac the way the Heartbreakers hated Mac in 1977, before realizing (uh, d'uh) that it was a great band.

Speaking of all these big music stars in 1998, has anyone played their copy of the Rumours tribute from 1998 in the last dozen years or so? See how bad musical choices become camp? That's why you have to listen to critics and people with judgment instead of to Mick Fleetwood. Jon Pareles (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/19/arts/music/prince-piano-a-microphone-1983-review.html?rref=collection%2Fbyline%2Fjon-pareles&action=click&contentCollection=undefined&region=stream&module=stream_unit&version=latest&contentPlacement=7&pgtype=collection) would never have given the green light to such a pukey album.

bwboy
12-15-2018, 06:45 PM
Now that Stevie is definitely going to be inducted to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, I thought this thread should be bumped.

How does it work? Does the person who announces her nomination perform also? How many different people usually perform for the artist? Is Jimmy Iovine famous enough to announce her induction, or is it always a celebrity/musician?

cbBen
12-15-2018, 06:55 PM
Others play the artist's material only if the artist himself does not perform. So Stevie may invite a guest to play with her, but she will be the main performer. It won't be a tribute to her as in the case, say, of Linda Ronstadt, who did not perform herself.

As Stevie said, she'll perform one to three songs. That's standard.

Jondalar
12-15-2018, 07:06 PM
The ghost of Prince

SteveMacD
12-15-2018, 07:25 PM
It’ll probably be someone she’s influenced, but I’d like to see Mick give the speech, like Paul did for John and Ringo.

luminol
12-15-2018, 08:48 PM
My immediate thought was HAIM. They're young, hip, pop rock ladies that adore Stevie. They'd check all the right boxes for PR etc. Harry Styles also came to mind but honestly, they'd probably prefer HAIM given the historic occasion of a twice-elected woman to the hall... get three ladies who look up to her.

Or Don Henley. Or Iovine. :shrug:

Jondalar
12-15-2018, 08:53 PM
Correct me if I’m wrong but you have to be inducted by a current member.

cbBen
12-15-2018, 09:11 PM
No, Sheryl Crow indicted Fleetwood Mac and she's not a member. Eddie Vedder inducted REM and Neil Young before he was a member. Dave Grohl inducted Queen before he was a member.

My money is on Grohl to indict Stevie.

luminol
12-15-2018, 09:11 PM
Correct me if I’m wrong but you have to be inducted by a current member.

But didn't the Black Keys induct Steve Miller a few years ago? I remember because he was apparently an ass to them for no reason.

secondhandchain
12-15-2018, 09:18 PM
Goat will get someone like Adam Levine.

luminol
12-17-2018, 11:40 AM
Yes, Adam Levine is a great possibility. He had her as his "guest coach" or whatever they call it on The Voice a few years ago. He or HAIM seem like the best bets unless they go old school like Don Henley.

By the way, not that this has anything to do with Stevie, but here's the writeup on the Steve Miller / Black Keys fiasco a few years ago. What a grump!

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/black-keys-we-regret-inducting-steve-miller-after-rock-hall-insults-234363/

bombaysaffires
12-17-2018, 02:59 PM
People, it will be Jimmy Iovine.

He's one of the heaviest hitters there is. That matters to her. A lot.

He was THE person she thanked onstage when she learned she'd won. She said, in her words, that HE was responsible for her solo career. That she owed it all to him. She has in fact said this before.

:sorry:

luminol
12-17-2018, 03:17 PM
People, it will be Jimmy Iovine.

He's one of the heaviest hitters there is. That matters to her. A lot.

He was THE person she thanked onstage when she learned she'd won. She said, in her words, that HE was responsible for her solo career. That she owed it all to him. She has in fact said this before.

:sorry:

Ok! It's fun to speculate.

I do think the young generation matters a LOT to her, too. Therefore the youngsters like HAIM and Harry Styles are her ticket to remaining relevant to the millennials. And that really matters to her, too. Even Adam Levine falls a bit into that category even though he's a bit older/established... her spot with him on The Voice a few years ago provided her with multiple nights of primetime tv airtime for a whole new chunk of youngsters. She enjoys being the rock icon these young people like to idolize.

(I'd go so far as to say that without the same next generation of supporters/fans/musicians sharing their limelights with her, she doesn't win this award. She hasn't won it purely on solo musical merits, even though she's released many albums and had decent hits... why aren't Tina Turner and Carole King in as performers, if that's the case? These youngsters have been critical to her remaining in the public eye and relevant and she knows it.)

:]

David
12-17-2018, 05:42 PM
It’ll probably be someone she’s influenced, but I’d like to see Mick give the speech, like Paul did for John and Ringo.

ZZZzzzzz. . . .

I'd rather see Iovine, Styles, Campbell+Tench, Sky Ferreira+Haim, Billy Corgan, Courtney Love (who's looking great these days), Grohl, Henley, Miley Cyrus (https://i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article12600090.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/Miley-Cyrus-and-Stevie-Nicks.jpg), etc.

Or Flo Rida, Tiesto, Bruno Mars, DeJ Loaf, or Calvin Harris.

secondhandchain
12-17-2018, 06:28 PM
She'll pick whoever the flavor of the month is. She loves to attach herself to what's hot. Vom.

Jondalar
12-17-2018, 06:36 PM
She'll pick whoever the flavor of the month is. She loves to attach herself to what's hot. Vom.

Sad but true. Or the biggest name she can get. She’s as deep as a raindrop.

bwboy
12-17-2018, 07:01 PM
Stevie has worked with a lot of people throughout her career, so there are a lot of real possibilities. Please feel free to add to this list:

Don Henley
Adam Levine
Haim
The Dixie Chicks
Sheryl Crow
Macy Gray
Bruce Hornsby
Kenny Loggins
Kenny G
Lana Del Rey
Jesse Valenzuela
Dave Stewart
Chris Isaak
Peter Frampton
Rod Stewart
Chrissie Hynde
Lady Antebellum

cbBen
12-17-2018, 07:59 PM
Stevie has worked with a lot of people throughout her career, so there are a lot of real possibilities. Please feel free to add to this list:

Don Henley
Adam Levine
Haim
The Dixie Chicks
Sheryl Crow
Macy Gray
Bruce Hornsby
Kenny Loggins
Kenny G
Lana Del Rey
Jesse Valenzuela
Dave Stewart
Chris Isaak
Peter Frampton
Rod Stewart
Chrissie Hynde
Lady Antebellum

Dave Grohl (even wrote a song with him): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sound_City:_Real_to_Reel

bwboy
12-17-2018, 09:16 PM
Dave Grohl (even wrote a song with him): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sound_City:_Real_to_Reel

Good one! Also:
Jon Bon Jovi
Bret Michaels
David Crosby
Robin Zander

NurseDJackson
12-18-2018, 06:14 AM
No, Sheryl Crow indicted Fleetwood Mac and she's not a member. Eddie Vedder inducted REM and Neil Young before he was a member. Dave Grohl inducted Queen before he was a member.

My money is on Grohl to indict Stevie.


DISTRICT ATTORNEYS OF ROCK (It was just a typo but gave me the heartiest laugh in ages!!):laugh:

bwboy
12-18-2018, 12:39 PM
Yes, Adam Levine is a great possibility. He had her as his "guest coach" or whatever they call it on The Voice a few years ago. He or HAIM seem like the best bets unless they go old school like Don Henley.

By the way, not that this has anything to do with Stevie, but here's the writeup on the Steve Miller / Black Keys fiasco a few years ago. What a grump!

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/black-keys-we-regret-inducting-steve-miller-after-rock-hall-insults-234363/

Thanks for posting that, luminol. Steve Miller was a real a$$hole! And the Black Keys really came across like unsung heroes. I also appreciated learning little behind the scenes tidbits, like the fact that the acts don't get paid for their participation.

bwboy
12-18-2018, 12:40 PM
DISTRICT ATTORNEYS OF ROCK (It was just a typo but gave me the heartiest laugh in ages!!):laugh:

That was funny!!! :]

cbBen
12-18-2018, 01:19 PM
acts don't get paid for their participation.

Just the opposite. These ceremonies are fundraisers for the organization bestowing the awards, and recipients effectively have to pay to receive them. I concur with Miller's complaint.

luminol
12-18-2018, 02:08 PM
Just the opposite. These ceremonies are fundraisers for the organization bestowing the awards, and recipients effectively have to pay to receive them. I concur with Miller's complaint.

Sure, I have no problem with him having complaints.... but he should not have made The Black Keys feel like crap for being there to induct him. Unacceptable, rude, self centered... all the grumpy things I’d heard about him through the years, actually validated. I always liked his music but it’s hard to listen to it since this... kind of like FM since April.

cbBen
12-18-2018, 03:32 PM
Yes, that much I understand; I was speaking only to the content (if not the delivery) of his complaint about the Hall.

bwboy
12-18-2018, 04:01 PM
Just the opposite. These ceremonies are fundraisers for the organization bestowing the awards, and recipients effectively have to pay to receive them. I concur with Miller's complaint.

Respectfully, then if Steve Miller didn't want the honor, he shouldn't have paid for it LOL. But really, that guy from the Black Keys made a great point- how ironic that Miller called the HoF out for being a "boy's club" when he's had over 30 different men play in his band, and not one woman. And even if Miller had a valid complaint, why be so disrespectful to the Black Keys, who only wanted to honor him?

cbBen
12-18-2018, 05:19 PM
I'm not condoning his treatment of the Black Keys, or even defending anything he said or did; only making the narrow point that I concur with his financial complaint about the Hall (not how he expressed it, not his gender bias allegation, and not his complaints about anyone or anything else).

annabellee
12-18-2018, 06:12 PM
Sad but true. Or the biggest name she can get. She’s as deep as a raindrop.

Be kinder. Raindrops are fascinating. https://physics.aps.org/story/v7/st14

Frankenstein
12-19-2018, 01:34 AM
I think Jimmy Iovine would be the best choice.

Storms123
12-19-2018, 09:01 AM
I think Jimmy Iovine would be the best choice.

Agreed, and I think she should keep FM away from this completely. Mick of course will not tolerate that. But this is about HER not FM

He's So Unusual
02-10-2019, 07:34 AM
It won't be LB. He'd never go up on stage to give Stevie an award he doesn't stand a chance at winning himself. His ego is far too big and fragile.

mitzo
02-10-2019, 10:30 AM
It won't be LB. He'd never go up on stage to give Stevie an award he doesn't stand a chance at winning himself. His ego is far too big and fragile.

Agreed 100%.

lilyfee
02-10-2019, 11:59 AM
It won't be LB. He'd never go up on stage to give Stevie an award he doesn't stand a chance at winning himself. His ego is far too big and fragile.

I honestly wonder though, if he swallowed his pride and performed a gesture like this, would Stevie be moved and forgive him/invite him to rejoin the band? A girl can dream!:shrug:

bombaysaffires
02-10-2019, 03:38 PM
I honestly wonder though, if he swallowed his pride and performed a gesture like this, would Stevie be moved and forgive him/invite him to rejoin the band? A girl can dream!:shrug:

Doubtful. He's been trying to play nice with her for years now, public proclamations via songs, interviews etc..... no avail. Sh&t's too deep by now.

MikeInNV
02-14-2019, 09:58 PM
I was listening to Mark Goodman on XM Radio this morning, and he was talking about Def Leppard being inducted. He said that the artist does not select who inducts them. I'd be curious to know how it all works.

Sanne2
03-13-2019, 08:09 AM
Ugh it's Harry Styles: https://963kklz.com/2019/03/13/harry-styles-to-present-stevie-nicks-at-the-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-induction/

Storms123
03-13-2019, 08:32 AM
Ugh it's Harry Styles: https://963kklz.com/2019/03/13/harry-styles-to-present-stevie-nicks-at-the-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-induction/

This is disappointing. I know he’s her “love child” but could have been a bit more rooted in her history as a solo artist.

cbBen
03-13-2019, 09:29 AM
Dave Grohl, folks. You heard it here first.

AliceLover
03-13-2019, 03:04 PM
I'm very surprised it's Harry. I get that it's the "cool" option. Many people will probably tune in just to see him, but I figured she would choose someone from her past. I really thought it would be Jimmy Iovine.

I'm really surprised she didn't ask Vanessa Carlton? They have been friends for years, musically and personally. Definitely a weird choice.

bombaysaffires
03-13-2019, 03:11 PM
if the whole thing is she's the first woman to get in twice, why not have one of the many, many women whom she's influenced be the speaker??

Or someone who's known her for more than five minutes?

Or someone who has some credibility in the music community?

this is just trashy. And yet so typical of who she's become-- chasing elusive youth,

bombaysaffires
03-13-2019, 03:13 PM
I was listening to Mark Goodman on XM Radio this morning, and he was talking about Def Leppard being inducted. He said that the artist does not select who inducts them. I'd be curious to know how it all works.

I highly doubt that. The whole RRHOF is so political and influenced by managers etc. Or the RRHOF people know nothing about her, and just did a super quick Google search and he came up in one of the most recent clips of her in the news.

Jondalar
03-13-2019, 03:25 PM
Stevie is soo smart. It’s the youth that make you relevant and remembered. When she sang with Harry it was all over Twitter. The night of the induction, Stevie will be all over Twitter because of Harry Styles. She is trying to remain relevant and capture the youth. Very smart but it’s also demeaning.

Steviegirl
03-13-2019, 03:29 PM
She'll pick whoever the flavor of the month is. She loves to attach herself to what's hot. Vom.

Annnnnd...we have a winner. Sigh. So much for "The Year of the Woman." What happened to the gracious, cool person many of us admired for most of our lives?

Jondalar
03-13-2019, 03:29 PM
Ummm Stevie is all over Twitter now and she was trending in Yahoo. Very smart.

MikeInNV
03-13-2019, 06:40 PM
I highly doubt that. The whole RRHOF is so political and influenced by managers etc. Or the RRHOF people know nothing about her, and just did a super quick Google search and he came up in one of the most recent clips of her in the news.

Maybe it's the artist and the RRHOF working together to find someone. The RRHOF wants to attract attention, and Harry does that. And it seems like they often use newer and younger artists to induct because it helps demonstrate the inductee's influence on subsequent generations, which is one of the criteria for induction. He wouldn't have been my first choice, but I can see where he checks a lot of the boxes.

bombaysaffires
03-13-2019, 09:23 PM
Maybe it's the artist and the RRHOF working together to find someone. The RRHOF wants to attract attention, and Harry does that. And it seems like they often use newer and younger artists to induct because helps demonstrate the inductee's influence on subsequent generations, which is one of the criteria for induction. He wouldn't have been my first choice, but I can see where he checks a lot of the boxes.

Either way it's totally tone deaf.

No female hipsters? Really? Miley loves her, Haim, Taylor, etc.

And TONS of women who were inspired to go into music because of her-- Sheryl, Florence, Vanessa, Courtney, blah blah blah.

It's a sad yet appropriate summation of who she has become.

Jondalar
03-13-2019, 09:24 PM
Maybe it's the artist and the RRHOF working together to find someone. The RRHOF wants to attract attention, and Harry does that. And it seems like they often use newer and younger artists to induct because helps demonstrate the inductee's influence on subsequent generations, which is one of the criteria for induction. He wouldn't have been my first choice, but I can see where he checks a lot of the boxes.

She is a huge influence to women. I think they should of used women/girls instead of someone from a boy band. It doesn’t seem right.

BombaySapphire3
03-13-2019, 10:06 PM
Yeah tacky and tone deaf..but I wouldn't expect anything less at this point.

AliceLover
03-14-2019, 01:20 PM
I'm actually more concerned about what her vocals are going to sound like live on TV. Did anyone catch "Stand Back" from Hyde Park that was on TV? It was really bad, vocally. Visually, she was awesome, very energetic.

I just hope she chooses the right songs. I think the "Wild Heart/Bella Donna" medley would be a perfect reflection of her solo career and a good choice for her voice. Then, a bigger hit. I would assume Edge of Seventeen?

sleepless child
03-14-2019, 04:37 PM
I'm surprised at the choice of Harry Styles. I would love to have seen Chrissie Hynde. Or better yet, Waddy and Sharon and Lori. That would have been awesome.