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gldstwmn
10-22-2018, 01:28 PM
Return of the Mac...

Fleetwood Mac have announced details of European tour dates for summer 2019 – including a huge stop at London’s iconic Wembley Stadium.

The classic rock veterans are currently touring with a new line-up after guitarist Lindsey Bucking was sacked back in April due to “scheduling conflicts”. The line-up now features Heartbreakers guitarist Mike Campbell and Crowded House frontman Neil Finn, as well as the band’s own Stevie Nicks, Christine McVie, John McVie, and Mick Fleetwood.

After a number of US performances, now the band have dates in Berlin, Dublin and London.

“Fleetwood Mac has always been about an amazing collection of songs that are performed with a unique blend of talents,” said Mick Fleetwood. “We jammed with Mike and Neil and the chemistry really worked and let the band realise that this is the right combination to go forward with in Fleetwood Mac style.

“We know we have something new, yet it’s got the unmistakable Mac sound.”

A full band statement added: “We are thrilled to welcome the musical talents of the caliber of Mike Campbell and Neil Finn into the Mac family. With Mike and Neil, we’ll be performing all the hits that the fans love, plus we’ll be surprising our audiences with some tracks from our historic catalogue of songs,” said the group collectively. “Fleetwood Mac has always been a creative evolution. We look forward to honouring that spirit on this upcoming tour.”

Fleetwood Mac’s upcoming UK and European tour dates are below. Tickets are on sale here from 9am on Friday October6 June 2019: Berlin, Germany – Waldbühne
13 June 2019: Dublin, Ireland – RDS Arena
16 June 2019: London, UK – Wembley Stadium
It was recently revealed that Lindsey Buckingham had begun legal proceedings against the band following his firing.

Buckingham’s manager informed the musician that Fleetwood Mac “would proceed with its upcoming and already organised 2018 to 2019 concert tour without him”, and that “not a single member of the band” had spoken to him directly about the decision.

Buckingham has now decided to sue his former bandmates for “fiduciary duty, breach of oral contract and intentional interference with prospective economic advantage”.

Responding, the band’s spokesperson Kristen Foster has disputed his claims, adding: “Fleetwood Mac looks forward to their day in court.”

Meanwhile, Fleetwood Mac were among the acts rumoured to be headlining Glastonbury 2019 – however organiser Emily Eavis has since insisted that they have not been booked.


Read more at https://www.nme.com/news/music/fleetwood-mac-2019-tour-uk-european-wembley-stadium-dublin-tickets-2392404#lYPPvHFEXh4L5T8p.99

Phil Lee
10-22-2018, 01:52 PM
I've seen the band 9 times in the UK. My first show was in 1990 at the old Wembley Stadium. I saw them 5 times in 2003 then once on each of the following tours. This is the first time I have no interest in watching them.

Mr Scarrott
10-22-2018, 01:58 PM
Well, I think they've made my mind up for me. I might just have dragged myself along to the O2 out of some sort of loyalty, but there's no way I'm going to sit in an 80 000 seater stadium for a Buckinghamless Mac with all the distance and alienation that would imply. If they've dropped Hypnotized already it's not going to be back in a country where Bob Welch fans are about as common as unicorns....

Enjoy the money, Mick. Many congratulations on your victory, Stevie. Let me know when you guys record something...

Sugar Mouse
10-22-2018, 02:04 PM
I guess this means that ticket sales aren't so bad after all ...

AncientQueen
10-22-2018, 02:08 PM
Only 3 shows? Will they add more, because that does not make so much sense, why bother for only 3 dates?

gldstwmn
10-22-2018, 02:15 PM
I guess this means that ticket sales aren't so bad after all ...

Ya think? :woohoo:

gldstwmn
10-22-2018, 02:17 PM
Only 3 shows? Will they add more, because that does not make so much sense, why bother for only 3 dates?
I'm sure there'll be more.

trackaghost
10-22-2018, 02:23 PM
I have to say, aside from the whole Lindsey issue, I have no interest at all at seeing Fleetwood Mac play Wembley Stadium, it's too huge and soulless for me. Plus the tickets range from £75 to £155 (before booking fees). That's a huge amount to essentially watch a gig on a big screen. I do wonder if they'll be able to sell it out though, last time they played Wembley Stadium (this was back in 1990 though) they had to discount the tickets hugely before the show (I remember they were going for £10 at one point, can you imagine!)

In some ways I'm relieved though, now I don't have to make a decision whether or not to see them (I'm sure Mick will be crushed of course!)

SteveMacD
10-22-2018, 02:54 PM
Neil Finn had like thirteen top 40 hits in the UK.

FuzzyPlum
10-22-2018, 03:01 PM
I guess this means that ticket sales aren't so bad after all ...

??? Instead of more than a dozen UK shows they are now playing one. Rather than 23 European shows they are now playing 3. How does this show good ticket sales? I'm sure there'll be further dates added, but its weird to only be announcing 3 initial dates. For the last few London visits they've played the O2 arena. Its easier for them to add dates to an arena than a stadium.

PS: as others have said. That's definitely my mind made up. Wembley is not a fun venue for music concerts.

trackaghost
10-22-2018, 03:11 PM
Neil Finn had like thirteen top 40 hits in the UK.

That's true but I can go see him in the relatively tiny Hackney Arts Centre (just 750 seats) in January for just £35.

SteveMacD
10-22-2018, 03:12 PM
That's true but I can go see him in the relatively tiny Hackney Arts Centre (just 750 seats) in January for just £35.

Hopefully Lindsey plays there, too.

trackaghost
10-22-2018, 03:23 PM
Hopefully Lindsey plays there, too.

I hope so! I think Neil Finn is playing two nights so I imagine Lindsey could easily do the same here.

guillamene
10-22-2018, 04:32 PM
??? Instead of more than a dozen UK shows they are now playing one. Rather than 23 European shows they are now playing 3. How does this show good ticket sales? I'm sure there'll be further dates added, but its weird to only be announcing 3 initial dates. For the last few London visits they've played the O2 arena. Its easier for them to add dates to an arena than a stadium.

PS: as others have said. That's definitely my mind made up. Wembley is not a fun venue for music concerts.

Fleetwood Mac are not a stadium band. Obviously, they want fewer shows in bigger venues like Wembley, but I would much prefer indoor. Given that they won't be doing two consecutive nights on this tour and the fact that these venues have other big names booked at this busy time of year, I can't see too many new dates being added.In Dublin, for example, they won't play an extra night after the 13th and the night after is not an option as it's too close to Wembley date. Once again, I count myself so fortunate to have seen them THREE times in Dublin in 2015: this year it will be once.....and outdoors at that.

AncientQueen
10-22-2018, 04:35 PM
I just checked the Waldbühne in Berlin. Outdoors in early june? Meh.

Murrow
10-22-2018, 05:04 PM
Well, I think they've made my mind up for me. I might just have dragged myself along to the O2 out of some sort of loyalty, but there's no way I'm going to sit in an 80 000 seater stadium for a Buckinghamless Mac with all the distance and alienation that would imply. If they've dropped Hypnotized already it's not going to be back in a country where Bob Welch fans are about as common as unicorns....

Enjoy the money, Mick. Many congratulations on your victory, Stevie. Let me know when you guys record something...

Perhaps I should wave a banner saying "Unicorns of the world unite". I too see no point in seeing this line-up while


They have no new material to promote
They've dropped Hypnotised while maintaining Monday Morning and Second Hand News.
Black Magic Woman is overly rewritten just so Stevie can sing it.
Stevie gets to sing a verse on Don't Dream It's Over and All Over Again in spite of the fact that their composers are on the stage with her.


Having seen them on the SYW and OWTS tours I'd only be there for Isn't It Midnight.

bwboy
10-22-2018, 05:24 PM
Perhaps I should wave a banner saying "Unicorns of the world unite". I too see no point in seeing this line-up while


They have no new material to promote
They've dropped Hypnotised while maintaining Monday Morning and Second Hand News.
Black Magic Woman is overly rewritten just so Stevie can sing it.
Stevie gets to sing a verse on Don't Dream It's Over and All Over Again in spite of the fact that their composers are on the stage with her.


Having seen them on the SYW and OWTS tours I'd only be there for Isn't It Midnight.

Murrow, if only more posters were like you! I'm serious. You say your piece and make some valid points, all without insulting anyone or saying anything nasty.

Unlike you, I'm glad Stevie is singing on the two songs you mention. I hate it when she leaves the stage while the other members are performing, because it seems disrespectful in a way. The fact that she is singing on those songs shows me she's really invested in the set list. She and Christine could easily leave the stage during Neil's songs (DDIO, YGM, HYP) but they don't and I love it. Although I'm bummed they've dropped Hypnotized, but maybe it'll come back. Regardless, this set list is killer and I'm happy they mixed it up so much.

vivfox
10-22-2018, 07:03 PM
I hope so!

Welcome back Sharon!!!:blob1:

bombaysaffires
10-22-2018, 07:38 PM
I hope so! I think Neil Finn is playing two nights so I imagine Lindsey could easily do the same here.

is he playing there during the FM tour?

Murrow
10-22-2018, 08:05 PM
Murrow, if only more posters were like you! I'm serious. You say your piece and make some valid points, all without insulting anyone or saying anything nasty.

Unlike you, I'm glad Stevie is singing on the two songs you mention. I hate it when she leaves the stage while the other members are performing, because it seems disrespectful in a way. The fact that she is singing on those songs shows me she's really invested in the set list. She and Christine could easily leave the stage during Neil's songs (DDIO, YGM, HYP) but they don't and I love it. Although I'm bummed they've dropped Hypnotized, but maybe it'll come back. Regardless, this set list is killer and I'm happy they mixed it up so much.

Oh I've done my fair share of nasty on here in the past (my signature comes close) but I really think there's just too much of it in the camp right now.

One reason I think Gold Dust Woman is the perfect closer to Rumours is because it's not a jab at anyone in the band, it just kind of says "You know what? We're all a bit f***ed off with each other, let's go home."

We'd do well to remember that in the fan community right now.

secondhandchain
10-22-2018, 09:23 PM
Neil Finn had like thirteen top 40 hits in the UK.

Yes but Neil finn isn't and never will be Fleetwood Mac. EVER

SteveMacD
10-22-2018, 09:32 PM
Yes but Neil finn isn't and never will be Fleetwood Mac. EVER

You don’t get it. You don’t get why Peter Green brought on a second guitarist and named the band after the rhythm section. The band has always been bigger than any one member, by design. Will Neil ever get a chance at proving his worthiness to the overall legacy of Fleetwood Mac? Maybe, maybe not. But Lindsey wasn’t Fleetwood Mac, either. He was definitely a huge part of Fleetwood Mac, but he was still just a part. And, that was always the point.

StevieandChris
10-22-2018, 09:44 PM
Yes but Neil finn isn't and never will be Fleetwood Mac. EVER

He is though. Deal with it.

bwboy
10-23-2018, 05:55 AM
Yes but Neil finn isn't and never will be Fleetwood Mac. EVER

Well, some Americans say Donald Trump isn't THEIR president...

wilsonmac
10-23-2018, 08:52 AM
Perhaps I should wave a banner saying "Unicorns of the world unite". I too see no point in seeing this line-up while


They have no new material to promote
They've dropped Hypnotised while maintaining Monday Morning and Second Hand News.
Black Magic Woman is overly rewritten just so Stevie can sing it.
Stevie gets to sing a verse on Don't Dream It's Over and All Over Again in spite of the fact that their composers are on the stage with her.


Having seen them on the SYW and OWTS tours I'd only be there for Isn't It Midnight.

I'm with you here. The only song i have interest in hearing with this new band would be "Isn't It Midnight". I think this song has one of the most blistering outro solo's Lindsey ever came up with.

Feather Blade
10-23-2018, 11:09 AM
is he playing there during the FM tour?

I don't think so, isn't he doing a short tour for himself during the band's tour hiatus? I believe that's what I heard. I'm sure someone can clarify.

SorcererJP
10-23-2018, 11:39 AM
Only 3 shows? Will they add more, because that does not make so much sense, why bother for only 3 dates?

I suspect them to play the Dutch Pinkpop-festival (8-10 June) in between the Dublin and Berlin-dates ...

Sugar Mouse
10-23-2018, 12:36 PM
Neil Finn had like thirteen top 40 hits in the UK.

Yes - Neil has had a lot of success in the UK and is obvioulsy huge in Australia/New Zealand. He usually plays to 20,000+ when he tours Aus/NZ with Crowded House or Split Enz.

Sugar Mouse
10-23-2018, 12:47 PM
I expect that the band will soon announce dates in Australia, New Zealand, and perhaps other locations.

And Neil just announced some wonderful news for Finn fans. Neil and his brother Tim have finished another Finn Brothers project. They haven't decided yet whether it will be released as an album or performed as a musical in Sydney or New York. I assume the project will be released at some point in 2019 or 2020.

AncientQueen
10-23-2018, 04:28 PM
They are now advertising the Berlin concert as the only one in Germany and one of only three in Europe. :shrug:

gldstwmn
10-23-2018, 05:00 PM
One reason I think Gold Dust Woman is the perfect closer to Rumours is because it's not a jab at anyone in the band, it just kind of says "You know what? We're all a bit f***ed off with each other, let's go home."



I love this interpretation.

gldstwmn
10-23-2018, 05:02 PM
I'm with you here. The only song i have interest in hearing with this new band would be "Isn't It Midnight". I think this song has one of the most blistering outro solo's Lindsey ever came up with.

That outro would be extremely difficult to recreate on stage and is probably what kept it from being in the set when Lindsey was in the band.

Angel75
10-23-2018, 05:16 PM
PS: as others have said. That's definitely my mind made up. Wembley is not a fun venue for music concerts.

I love Wembley for big band concerts, not that I would go now but I much prefer it to the O2 that is soul-less I think

missundercover
10-24-2018, 10:14 AM
So... although I will miss Lindsey very much, I caved: bought a ticket for the Berlin gig. First rows seem to be reserved (M&G?), but I got 7th row, which is fine. Hefty prices, but... I want to see them, so: on with the show. :o

Hope I will see Lindsey again some day, but I'm somehow not optimistic for Lindsey in Europe.

SteveMacD
10-24-2018, 12:12 PM
That outro would be extremely difficult to recreate on stage and is probably what kept it from being in the set when Lindsey was in the band.

That’s what Neale is for...

AncientQueen
10-24-2018, 01:54 PM
So... although I will miss Lindsey very much, I caved: bought a ticket for the Berlin gig. First rows seem to be reserved (M&G?), but I got 7th row, which is fine. Hefty prices, but... I want to see them, so: on with the show. :oOhhh, please tell me how (hefty) the tickets are, we are right now debating if we will go and some money facts would help.

missundercover
10-24-2018, 03:32 PM
Tickets start at 110€ (P5) and end at 240€ (P1), see attached screenshot

AncientQueen
10-25-2018, 01:50 AM
^^^Thank you!
Hefty is the word!

trackaghost
10-25-2018, 01:53 PM
Welcome back Sharon!!!:blob1:

Hey Viv! Nice to see you! :thumbsup:

trackaghost
10-25-2018, 02:00 PM
is he playing there during the FM tour?

Technically Finn is doing his UK solo dates when Fleetwood Mac are on a break during the tour (in January) but I do see your point. But then the whole solo dates thing with Lindsey was obviously just a lame excuse.

sue
10-26-2018, 03:48 AM
I was thinking about possibly going to Wembley, London...
So I did a quick calculation:

Ticket....£250... 320 dollars
Hotel......£150.. 192. #
Train.......£40.. 52
Food.......£60.. 77
Total......£500.. 641. Dollars

No I won’t be going ...£500 quid no way !!!
I saw them 2015 in Leeds for half that ..

DownOnRodeo
10-26-2018, 04:07 AM
I was thinking about possibly going to Wembley, London...
So I did a quick calculation:

Ticket....£250... 320 dollars
Hotel......£150.. 192. #
Train.......£40.. 52
Food.......£60.. 77
Total......£500.. 641. Dollars

No I won’t be going ...£500 quid no way !!!
I saw them 2015 in Leeds for half that ..

Mick: "My dear lady. Perhaps I could tempt you with the added expensive delight of another 500 quid for a meet and greet with my good self?" (dangles scarf hypnotically)

sue
10-26-2018, 04:23 AM
Mick: "My dear lady. Perhaps I could tempt you with the added expensive delight of another 500 quid for a meet and greet with my good self?" (dangles scarf hypnotically)

🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩
Oh no Mick, it’s so tempting..
And we know you need the cash.....
But please stop dangling in front of me.

gldstwmn
10-28-2018, 09:59 AM
Did Wembley sell out?

sue
10-28-2018, 10:10 AM
Did Wembley sell out?

Direct from Wembley.....they are sold out.
Viagogo (for example) states only 10% of tickets left.

gldstwmn
10-28-2018, 11:33 AM
Direct from Wembley.....they are sold out.
Viagogo (for example) states only 10% of tickets left.

Wow! I wonder if they will add more shows?

missundercover
11-15-2018, 11:25 AM
So, as I thought: first 6 rows were blocked from booking for the Berlin show and are now available through LaneOne.
650€ per ticket. Ha ha. NO. :rolleyes:

SorcererJP
11-15-2018, 12:41 PM
So, as I thought: first 6 rows were blocked from booking for the Berlin show and are now available through LaneOne.
650€ per ticket. Ha ha. NO. :rolleyes:

So I paid only 150 euro for General Admission special entrance to a section in front of the stage at the Werchter Boutique-show ... no seats, no chairs ... like a rock-/popconcert is supposed to be ... and ... I get a bunch of other artists for that price as well ...

missundercover
11-15-2018, 01:46 PM
Yeah, well. I'm crazy, but this is just... no. Last time front row was 280 € - too much already, but I paid it and didn't regret either. First row was only row allowed to stand up and go to the stage.
Just as you said: as a rock concert should be. I hate seated concerts. But 650? Common! That's just greedy. Sigh.

ali101
11-15-2018, 10:49 PM
So, as I thought: first 6 rows were blocked from booking for the Berlin show and are now available through LaneOne.
650€ per ticket. Ha ha. NO. :rolleyes:

Cheap compared to the equivalent at Wembley which are £899 to £958 or up to 1080 Euros for front row and down to bargain basement price of £699 for row H.
Are their grants available for special cases?

What on earth happened to presales that were for true fans only? It really can’t be much fun on stage with the people directly below oblivious to most of the music but just have the cash to ‘box tick’ concerts just to tell all and sundry where they have been and what bands/artists they have seen. Yes money always talks and always will but it’s getting worse. Time was you just had to work hard to get great tickets now it’s getting quite silly.

Lane one hospitality they may be £1800 for two seats outside at Wembley where the sound is usually pretty substandard? - Does this include a free rain poncho?
Cheapest seats on the top tier at Live Nation are £99 however It’s bad enough watching the football up there never mind a concert at the other end of the stadium.

I haven’t missed a tour in the UK for over 30 years and was there in 1990 but unless they will accept a kidney or I win the lottery - or even better still they play a proper venue - it might be that I will be disappointed and in an unhappy mood in mid June.
Last time FM played the old Wembley stadium they didn’t return to the UK until 2003 so I’m hoping this won’t be a repeat kiss of death.

I was hoping to get to a few shows as usual but they are not even materialising in Europe and the addition of a second Wembley show has decreased the odds of further dates.
I’m really praying that this tour will not be last chance to see this band or Stevie.
:angel:
And on that note regardless of the LB situation, the fact that they are still able to hit the road is miraculous and any chance to see the band in a mainly Rumours based lineup is a blessing. When Lindsey left in 87 followed by Stevie and Chris after the 90 tour who would have ever predicted that almost 30 years later there would be any tours at all. It’s not a perfect scenario without Lindsey but it’s still one to savour for different reasons.
For those of you Stateside you got a much bigger bite of the cherry with two extra band tours and the additional solo tours barring TOSOTM and an odd appearance. :cool:
Everyone who has a ticket or plans to grab one last minute just enjoy it whilst it’s possible. Life is for living. (Even though you may be arrested later for robbing a bank):];)