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dontlookdown
10-19-2018, 12:00 AM
10/24 show has been cancelled due to "tour scheduling issues" and rescheduled for February 2nd.

All other shows remain the same.

Anyone know what happened?
Is this a court appearance day?

Lola
10-19-2018, 02:39 AM
Feb 2nd is a Saturday. Maybe they're hoping for better ticket sales?

dontlookdown
10-19-2018, 09:15 AM
Probably.
It's a small market and this tour is building momentum through word of mouth.
Reviews have ranged from great to excellent, so I think we'll see venues selling out as the weeks go on.

FM77
10-19-2018, 12:06 PM
Wasn’t it originally the only show that was a back to back? That seemed odd to me. The entire tour has at least one day between shows. I think that is important for them.

FM77
10-19-2018, 12:08 PM
Probably.
It's a small market and this tour is building momentum through word of mouth.
Reviews have ranged from great to excellent, so I think we'll see venues selling out as the weeks go on.

KC looked like a complaete sell out on TM last night.

g. fish
10-19-2018, 12:34 PM
KC looked like a complaete sell out on TM last night.

Yeah. They were giving away floor seats at $66 each. And level one (not nosebleed) at $44. I saw row three, dead center at $160. Did you look at Stubhub? Poor scalpers lost a bundle.

Great job selling out. Literally, they sold out when they fired Lindsey.

jwd
10-19-2018, 01:34 PM
Yeah. They were giving away floor seats at $66 each. And level one (not nosebleed) at $44. I saw row three, dead center at $160. Did you look at Stubhub? Poor scalpers lost a bundle.

Great job selling out. Literally, they sold out when they fired Lindsey.


Damn, I feel so sorry for them!

HomerMcvie
10-19-2018, 03:22 PM
Damn, I feel so sorry for them!

Hell, I might actually end up going to see them, at that price. I've said all along, that $40 ish is my max I'm willing to pay to see karaoke.

jwd
10-19-2018, 03:51 PM
Hell, I might actually end up going to see them, at that price. I've said all along, that $40 ish is my max I'm willing to pay to see karaoke.


That's cheaper than my BuckVie tickets were. Hopefully "Hypnotized" is back in the set. I'd like to see that and TMATTYD. Hearing Mike Campbell on guitar would make it worth it for me. But I just couldn't go, knowing what I know now. At least all I know now. I have too much respect for Lindsey and The Rumours 5. That's just how I feel.

bombaysaffires
10-19-2018, 08:02 PM
Wasn’t it originally the only show that was a back to back? That seemed odd to me. The entire tour has at least one day between shows. I think that is important for them.

Yes, in this article with the keyboardist who replaced Brett, he says to save Stevie's voice they don't do any back to back shows.

And, per him, she *is* now "running the show"


http://m.startribune.com/twin-cities...mac/497968671/

secondhandchain
10-19-2018, 11:11 PM
Hell, I might actually end up going to see them, at that price. I've said all along, that $40 ish is my max I'm willing to pay to see karaoke.

Don't you DARE David!

secondhandchain
10-19-2018, 11:13 PM
Yes, in this article with the keyboardist who replaced Brett, he says to save Stevie's voice they don't do any back to back shows.

And, per him, she *is* now "running the show"


http://m.startribune.com/twin-cities...mac/497968671/

“Stevie is running the show,” Peterson said. “But they discuss it. No one is yelling at each other. It’s very, very diplomatic. And the principals are involved. Ultimately, I think Stevie and Mick are the final decisionmakers.”
DISGUSTING that Tambourine B/witch is now running the show. WTF

dreamsunwind
10-19-2018, 11:15 PM
Yes, in this article with the keyboardist who replaced Brett, he says to save Stevie's voice they don't do any back to back shows.

And, per him, she *is* now "running the show"


http://m.startribune.com/twin-cities...mac/497968671/

What an absolutely shocking piece of information!

HejiraNYC
10-19-2018, 11:29 PM
“Stevie is running the show,” Peterson said. “But they discuss it. No one is yelling at each other. It’s very, very diplomatic. And the principals are involved. Ultimately, I think Stevie and Mick are the final decisionmakers.”
DISGUSTING that Tambourine B/witch is now running the show. WTF

Yes, how utterly disgusting it must be to have a woman in charge of the band. Fleetwood Mac needs an alpha tough guy like Lindsey to make sure Stevie stays in her place! :rolleyes:

SteveMacD
10-19-2018, 11:35 PM
Okay, is anyone surprised it’s the Stevie show by this point? Look at how many songs she’s inserted herself into. That was obvious after the first show.

As a fan of the overall body of work by Fleetwood Mac, I have to ask, so what? If anything, Stevie’s stock has risen a bit with me with the additions of Black Magic Woman and especially All Over Again. This is the type of set I’ve wanted (especially when Hypnotized was in the set, you assholes) for decades. If Stevie gets that, then that means she gets it, she gets the band’s history, the 51 year legacy. She’s not only NOT intimidated by material she wasn’t involved in, including a song made when she had an acrimonious relationship with the band, she’s the one embracing it. She appreciates the history of Fleetwood Mac on a level that surprises me. Play on.

gldstwmn
10-19-2018, 11:43 PM
Someone posted a photo of the actual set lis elsewhere and it was titled "Option 17." Maybe there is more than one set. Hypnotized definitely needs to return.

HomerMcvie
10-20-2018, 12:09 AM
Don't you DARE David!

I'm sure I won't. But I LOVE that my last FM ticket was $350, and you can see them for $40 now!:cool:

HomerMcvie
10-20-2018, 12:10 AM
Yes, how utterly disgusting it must be to have a woman in charge of the band. Fleetwood Mac needs an alpha tough guy like Lindsey to make sure Stevie stays in her place! :rolleyes:

I was really super fond of you, all that time you were MIA here.:D

SteveMacD
10-20-2018, 12:16 AM
Okay, is anyone surprised it’s the Stevie show by this point? Look at how many songs she’s inserted herself into. That was obvious after the first show.

As a fan of the overall body of work by Fleetwood Mac, I have to ask, so what? If anything, Stevie’s stock has risen a bit with me with the additions of Black Magic Woman and especially All Over Again. This is the type of set I’ve wanted (especially when Hypnotized was in the set, you assholes) for decades. If Stevie gets that, then that means she gets it, she gets the band’s history, the 51 year legacy. She’s not only NOT intimidated by material she wasn’t involved in, including a song made when she had an acrimonious relationship with the band, she’s the one embracing it. She appreciates the history of Fleetwood Mac on a level that surprises me. Play on.

I mean, All Over Again???? I didn’t think anyone but David, Homer, Chili, and me even remembered that.

AncientQueen
10-20-2018, 01:27 AM
Yes, how utterly disgusting it must be to have a woman in charge of the band. Fleetwood Mac needs an alpha tough guy like Lindsey to make sure Stevie stays in her place! :rolleyes:
Yeah! The nerve. A woman who is in charge.

Buster
10-20-2018, 01:04 PM
Yes, how utterly disgusting it must be to have a woman in charge of the band. Fleetwood Mac needs an alpha tough guy like Lindsey to make sure Stevie stays in her place! :rolleyes:

Finally, someone else who understands the sexism/misogyny/double standards behind many posts here.

Buster
10-20-2018, 01:07 PM
Okay, is anyone surprised it’s the Stevie show by this point? Look at how many songs she’s inserted herself into. That was obvious after the first show.

As a fan of the overall body of work by Fleetwood Mac, I have to ask, so what? If anything, Stevie’s stock has risen a bit with me with the additions of Black Magic Woman and especially All Over Again. This is the type of set I’ve wanted (especially when Hypnotized was in the set, you assholes) for decades. If Stevie gets that, then that means she gets it, she gets the band’s history, the 51 year legacy. She’s not only NOT intimidated by material she wasn’t involved in, including a song made when she had an acrimonious relationship with the band, she’s the one embracing it. She appreciates the history of Fleetwood Mac on a level that surprises me. Play on.

Agree. If this band must continue, the setlist is a great direction. After years of dullsville FM and Stevie solo setlists, she got it together for 24K tour and leading
this tour. Great that she’s running the show.

secondhandchain
10-20-2018, 01:47 PM
Yeah! The nerve. A woman who is in charge.

It’s not that it’s a woman it’s hiw she got there by freaking FIRING there musical director. Please you know it’s not about that. And screaming sexism won’t change what she’s done.

saniette
10-20-2018, 01:52 PM
Finally, someone else who understands the sexism/misogyny/double standards behind many posts here.

What double standard? Like Stevie getting to delay FM tours and refuse to record with the band, but Lindsey's not allowed to?

This constant harping about sexism is ridiculous. Criticizing a woman doesn't automatically equate to sexism. A woman can be a narcissist too.

SmthngOfADreamr
10-20-2018, 05:50 PM
What double standard? Like Stevie getting to delay FM tours and refuse to record with the band, but Lindsey's not allowed to?

This constant harping about sexism is ridiculous. Criticizing a woman doesn't automatically equate to sexism. A woman can be a narcissist too.

Thanks for the sane post. I really don't think the anger here has anything to do with gender at all. If Lindsey had been the one who refused to perform with Stevie anymore and insisted that she be ousted from the band I can only imagine that the anger directed towards him here would be exponentially more severe.

SteveMacD
10-20-2018, 06:40 PM
What double standard? Like Stevie getting to delay FM tours and refuse to record with the band, but Lindsey's not allowed to?

I don’t disagree in principle. However, it isn’t exactly the same equation. Stevie delayed a Fleetwood Mac tour so she could extend the IYD tour because she wasn’t ready to be done with it (which Mick very publicly called her out on it). I think she really believed in that album, and was disappointed that it wasn’t a huge hit, which is probably why she’s reluctant to make another album.

It’s a very different equation today. They are seven years older, Christine (the oldest member) is back, John survived a cancer scare, and a lot of their contemporaries are dying. There’s a greater sense of urgency.

saniette
10-20-2018, 07:28 PM
I don’t disagree in principle. However, it isn’t exactly the same equation. Stevie delayed a Fleetwood Mac tour so she could extend the IYD tour because she wasn’t ready to be done with it (which Mick very publicly called her out on it). I think she really believed in that album, and was disappointed that it wasn’t a huge hit, which is probably why she’s reluctant to make another album.

It’s a very different equation today. They are seven years older, Christine (the oldest member) is back, John survived a cancer scare, and a lot of their contemporaries are dying. There’s a greater sense of urgency.

I hear what you're saying, but time has been a factor in this band for a while now. It's not like the tour delay with Stevie was decades ago. This was only six or seven years ago, so the band members were old enough that something could have happened. It's not like Stevie had a crystal ball, to know that everyone would still be fine to do an FM tour after she was done.

And personally, I think extending a tour is a less justifiable excuse than doing a new tour. I understand why she would want to continue, but she had already done a full tour.

I think the other point in Lindsey's favor is that FM has had a cyclical routine with the solo tours and the FM tours. Lindsey toured with Christine last year, which in my mind counts as a "band year", as that should have been an FM record. Lindsey was perfectly warranted in requesting time to do a solo tour in 2018, following Stevie's own rule. He hasn't toured solo in years, and did a couple FM tours in the interim. FM could have been touring a record last year, if urgency is the paramount concern.

StreetAngel86
10-21-2018, 12:15 AM
What an absolutely shocking piece of information!

hardly shocking
when we've all suspected this for ages.
and $he herself said she is not the boss of this band

bwaaaaaah hahahaha
pinocchio

DownOnRodeo
10-21-2018, 12:50 AM
Lindsey toured with Christine last year, which in my mind counts as a "band year", as that should have been an FM record. Lindsey was perfectly warranted in requesting time to do a solo tour in 2018, following Stevie's own rule. He hasn't toured solo in years, and did a couple FM tours in the interim.

I hadn't even thought that all through before. That is such a good point!

Frankenstein
10-21-2018, 01:04 AM
I also don’t think it’s as simple as blaming sexism. What if Christine were “in charge”? People would probably react to that a bit differently.

AncientQueen
10-21-2018, 01:31 AM
It’s not that it’s a woman it’s hiw she got there by freaking FIRING there musical director. Please you know it’s not about that. And screaming sexism won’t change what she’s done.
Nope. This is about almost everyone here tries to diminish her archivements and alot of that has to do with her being a woman. And Lindsey got a "posthum" title now, as musical director? I feel that the FM formula is pretty much intact without him now, even with the new setlist. Sounds like they can manage quite well without him.

AncientQueen
10-21-2018, 01:36 AM
What double standard? Like Stevie getting to delay FM tours and refuse to record with the band, but Lindsey's not allowed to?
This constant harping about sexism is ridiculous. Criticizing a woman doesn't automatically equate to sexism. A woman can be a narcissist too.
And you don't get the underlying "how dare she, she is just a woman" all around here? Interesting, to me, that is blatant and pretty infuriating. I'm not saying that Stevie did right, no, she did not, but still, the level of added misygynist BS in here is quite astonishing.

gldstwmn
10-21-2018, 01:53 AM
I also don’t think it’s as simple as blaming sexism. What if Christine were “in charge”? People would probably react to that a bit differently.

Would they? If they felt she ousted Lindsey they'd be calling her every name in the book. Some have already started.

saniette
10-21-2018, 10:05 AM
And you don't get the underlying "how dare she, she is just a woman" all around here? Interesting, to me, that is blatant and pretty infuriating. I'm not saying that Stevie did right, no, she did not, but still, the level of added misygynist BS in here is quite astonishing.

No, I think the level of misogyny on this board is being exaggerated, and there's a big difference between sexism and misogyny anyway. Most people on this board are or were Stevie fans, so I don't really see sexism being the driver here. If we have a problem with Stevie taking charge of the band, it's because she ousted someone in order to do so. So fans have the right to object to a power play that broke up the band, without being labeled as misogynist. If Lindsey did this, I don't think people would give him a pass because he's a man.

Storms123
10-21-2018, 10:42 AM
No, I think the level of misogyny on this board is being exaggerated, and there's a big difference between sexism and misogyny anyway. Most people on this board are or were Stevie fans, so I don't really see sexism being the driver here. If we have a problem with Stevie taking charge of the band, it's because she ousted someone in order to do so. So fans have the right to object to a power play that broke up the band, without being labeled as misogynist. If Lindsey did this, I don't think people would give him a pass because he's a man.


Very well said.

annabellee
10-23-2018, 01:17 PM
No, I think the level of misogyny on this board is being exaggerated, and there's a big difference between sexism and misogyny anyway. Most people on this board are or were Stevie fans, so I don't really see sexism being the driver here. If we have a problem with Stevie taking charge of the band, it's because she ousted someone in order to do so. So fans have the right to object to a power play that broke up the band, without being labeled as misogynist. If Lindsey did this, I don't think people would give him a pass because he's a man.

Can you imagine having your career being dependent on someone so controlling? Sometimes things can't be fixed. Someone had to go. That's why they are where they are at today. If blame must be cast, it is cast across five. Now, I think I'm going to listen to some music. Maybe Jake Spears?

bwboy
10-23-2018, 01:44 PM
Now, I think I'm going to listen to some music. Maybe Jake Spears?

Did you mean Jake Shears? I heard he had a new album out- is it worth checking out?

annabellee
10-23-2018, 06:14 PM
I did mean that AND IT IS WORTH IT!

bwboy
10-23-2018, 07:26 PM
Awesome- I just ordered it from Amazon!