Favorite Stevie background vocal on MAC albums..

[BLY]

Fleetwood Mac- Blue Letter
Rumours- Second Hand News
Tusk-Honey Hi
Mirage- Love in Store
Tango in the Night-Everywhere
Say You Will- Miranda

[DownOnRodeo]

Tango in the Night-Everywhere

Someone mentioned in another thread that one of the FM-related memoirs claims that Stevie had some issues with the recording of Everywhere. Can someone tell me what they were?

Say You Will- Miranda

Agreed.
But generally speaking I prefer all of Lindsey's post-Tango songs sans Stevie (including Peacekeeper)--with one big exception: "Say Goodbye." Particularly her harmonies on the live version (Lindsey's Soundstage, the SYW tour).

Also, Stevie always does such awesome, high harmonies on live versions of I'm So Afraid.

Maybe she should have been a backing vocalist...

[Macfan4life]

You are going to cause a fight because there was a fierce debate if its really Stevie's vocals on Everywhere. In Mick's first book he describes Stevie being outraged that she was not on the song and Christine threw it back in her face that she was never there but wanted her on the song. Stevie's voice appears to be layered into the song but others are not that convinced and its Lindsey doing his tricks.

Now my songs:
Love in Store
Honey Hi
Sugar Daddy I just love her ending "I'm not asking for loooooove"

You make loving fun - its faint but if you strip everything down you can hear Stevie with all the ooooos and ahhhhhh

[DownOnRodeo]

You are going to cause a fight because there was a fierce debate if its really Stevie's vocals on Everywhere. In Mick's first book he describes Stevie being outraged that she was not on the song and Christine threw it back in her face that she was never there but wanted her on the song. Stevie's voice appears to be layered into the song but others are not that convinced and its Lindsey doing his tricks.

Thanks for explaining that.
I don't want to be unduly controversial on the Stevie forum, but when I'd seen that mention of Stevie on Everywhere I could not for the life of me think of where she appears on the song. And after reading your explanation, I listened to the 2017 remaster on headphones at high volume, and sure enough she is nowhere to be seen or heard (just in my opinion), so I guess this might have been a case where Mick was drawing on something that actually transpired.

Although clearly the OP believes that Stevie is on Everywhere, and for the purposes of this thread I'm cool with deferring to that interpretation.

[JohnL]

Fleetwood Mac- Blue Letter
Rumours- Second Hand News
Tusk-Honey Hi
Mirage- Love in Store
Tango in the Night-Everywhere
Say You Will- Miranda

I absolutely love her vocals on Miranda. I dont like many Lindsey songs but that is one that I REALLY do.

[StevieandChris]

My favorite is the version of Over & Over on Fleetwood Mac Live.

[StevieandChris]

Thanks for explaining that.
I don't want to be unduly controversial on the Stevie forum, but when I'd seen that mention of Stevie on Everywhere I could not for the life of me think of where she appears on the song. And after reading your explanation, I listened to the 2017 remaster on headphones at high volume, and sure enough she is nowhere to be seen or heard (just in my opinion), so I guess this might have been a case where Mick was drawing on something that actually transpired.

Although clearly the OP believes that Stevie is on Everywhere, and for the purposes of this thread I'm cool with deferring to that interpretation.

Ha I have never thought she was on this song either, I cannot hear her!

[jbrownsjr]

My favorite is the version of Over & Over on Fleetwood Mac Live.

That's my absolute favorite. The crescendo at the end makes the hair on my arm stand up. It's so good. :thumbsup:

[jbrownsjr]

FM Crystal
Rumours Oh Daddy
Tusk Never Forget
Mirage Love In Store
Tango Everywhere
SYW Say Goodbye

[Jondalar]

Brown Eyes, Honey Hi

[Macfan4life]

My favorite is the version of Over & Over on Fleetwood Mac Live.
Oh yes! I was not counting live performances but agree with you on this one.
Being that some of the live album was "touched" do you think these background vocals were enhanced? I have heard other versions during the Tusk tour and nothing compares to this one.
Even if it is touched, its still the best background vocal.

[FuzzyPlum]

On reflection, Stevie isn't audibly present on many of Chris or Lindsey's songs at all to my ear. On Christine's songs its mostly Lindsey and Christine herself singing harmony and on Lindsey's songs its mostly Lindsey. As mentioned, Crystal and Love in Store are stand outs. I can just about make her out on a handful of others- but not that many really.
Aside from Love In Store is she on any of the other writers' songs on Mirage? Aside form Little Lies is she on any of the other writers' songs on Tango?
I'm in the camp that can't really hear her on Everywhere despite numerous play over and over trying to make her voice out. Plenty of distorted Lindsey but nothing I can definitely hear as Stevie. The closest I can get is at 2.28/2.29 but even then I'm not convinced as if it were her voice I'm sure it would be more prominent.

[BombaySapphire3]

On reflection, Stevie isn't audibly present on many of Chris or Lindsey's songs at all to my ear. On Christine's songs its mostly Lindsey and Christine herself singing harmony and on Lindsey's songs its mostly Lindsey. As mentioned, Crystal and Love in Store are stand outs. I can just about make her out on a handful of others- but not that many really.
Aside from Love In Store is she on any of the other writers' songs on Mirage? Aside form Little Lies is she on any of the other writers' songs on Tango?
I'm in the camp that can't really hear her on Everywhere despite numerous play over and over trying to make her voice out. Plenty of distorted Lindsey but nothing I can definitely hear as Stevie. The closest I can get is at 2.28/2.29 but even then I'm not convinced as if it were her voice I'm sure it would be more prominent.

She is very audible on Second Hand News, Blue Letter ,Say You Love Me and Go Your Own Way ..on that song
there are sections where it is just her singing .I can't hear her on any Mirage songs other than the ones you mentioned on the studio outtake of Hold Me she is all over the song though. Same with Tango but we all know she wasn't there for that one.

[Nick]

You guys have mentioned some good ones, I would add:

"Save Me"
"Skies The Limit"

[bwboy]

You guys have mentioned some good ones, I would add:

"Save Me"
"Skies The Limit"

And As Long As You Follow...

[jbrownsjr]

And As Long As You Follow...

I love her on this.

[FuzzyPlum]

She is very audible on Second Hand News, Blue Letter ,Say You Love Me and Go Your Own Way ..on that song
there are sections where it is just her singing .I can't hear her on any Mirage songs other than the ones you mentioned on the studio outtake of Hold Me she is all over the song though. Same with Tango but we all know she wasn't there for that one.


I'll have to respectfully ask you to point out where you think Stevie can be heard on Go Your Own Way. Its a song you assume she's on as she takes such a prominent part in the live set. I'm not convinced she's on the recording though- certainly not the version on the record. All I hear is Lindsey's double-tracked harmony.

[BLY]

I'll have to respectfully ask you to point out where you think Stevie can be heard on Go Your Own Way. Its a song you assume she's on as she takes such a prominent part in the live set. I'm not convinced she's on the recording though- certainly not the version on the record. All I hear is Lindsey's double-tracked harmony.


Stevie is most definitely on GYOW. She is deep in the mix like she is on many of the songs on Rumours. Buckingham is a studio genius and when that album was recorded all three voices were present.

[Macfan4life]

Speaking of GYOW. I like her on the song live. However her background vocal on the Live album (1980) GYOW ruined the song for me. I don't know why but its just way too pronounced.

[FuzzyPlum]

Stevie is most definitely on GYOW. She is deep in the mix like she is on many of the songs on Rumours. Buckingham is a studio genius and when that album was recorded all three voices were present.

Maybe she is on there- but she certainly isn't identifiable. Certainly there's nothing that can be held up as an example of her stellar backing harmony.

[HoursAndHours]

Maybe she is on there- but she certainly isn't identifiable. Certainly there's nothing that can be held up as an example of her stellar backing harmony.

I can clearly hear her in all the chorus harmonies on GYOW. It's a really tight harmony, but that ring in her 1970s voice is clear as a bell to me.

[BombaySapphire3]

I can clearly hear her in all the chorus harmonies on GYOW. It's a really tight harmony, but that ring in her 1970s voice is clear as a bell to me.

Same here ..it is really obvious in fact on the word "day " in " you can call it another lonely day" she is still singing after everyone else stops .Not sure how someone could miss it:shrug:

[FuzzyPlum]

Same here ..it is really obvious in fact on the word "day " in " you can call it another lonely day" she is still singing after everyone else stops .Not sure how someone could miss it:shrug:

Nope, really sorry guys...I'm still just not convinced. Pretty sure that's just Lindsey's voice.

[BLY]

Nope, really sorry guys...I'm still just not convinced. Pretty sure that's just Lindsey's voice.


Sorry but no......Go Your Own Way has all 3 voices on it. If you can’t hear it on the the album or cd then listen to the DVD version.

[dreamsunwind]

Maybe she is on there- but she certainly isn't identifiable. Certainly there's nothing that can be held up as an example of her stellar backing harmony.

She is definitely on GYOW, if you listen to the isolated vocals of it you can hear her pretty clearly. However she's not particularly prominent on it so I would never really consider it to be a 'favorite' of her background vocals.

[FuzzyPlum]

Clearly I'll have to bow to those who know much better than me.

[Macfan4life]

I think she is on GYOW and Don't Stop but of course you cant really hear her. During the Rumours 20th anniversary, Christine said for the end of Don't Stop everyone was in the studio plus family or friends were singing in the end. I am sure Stevie was part of it too. But her prevalent voice is toned down to almost inaudible.

[jeets2000]

Thanks for explaining that.
I don't want to be unduly controversial on the Stevie forum, but when I'd seen that mention of Stevie on Everywhere I could not for the life of me think of where she appears on the song. And after reading your explanation, I listened to the 2017 remaster on headphones at high volume, and sure enough she is nowhere to be seen or heard (just in my opinion), so I guess this might have been a case where Mick was drawing on something that actually transpired.

:laugh:

This actually brings up something I've given some thought to over the years. In the years of Lindsey's absence, Stevie sang, "I wanna be with you," just before Christine did in the chorus, which is obviously a departure from the album track. Here's one example from 1990 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNr7ThE4AJo), and probably the most widely available version from the Tango tour VHS (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KrfOspHdVM).

These are probably unanswerable questions, but was this Stevie's way of putting her signature on the song since she wasn't on the album track? Is this maybe what she suggested she could add when they told her sorry, the track is finished? And then in 1997, did someone have to tell her that they didn't want her to do it this way anymore? I don't know why this sparks my curiosity so much, but it really does.

[Macfan4life]

:laugh:

This actually brings up something I've given some thought to over the years. In the years of Lindsey's absence, Stevie sang, "I wanna be with you," just before Christine did in the chorus, which is obviously a departure from the album track. Here's one example from 1990 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNr7ThE4AJo), and probably the most widely available version from the Tango tour VHS (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KrfOspHdVM).

These are probably unanswerable questions, but was this Stevie's way of putting her signature on the song since she wasn't on the album track? Is this maybe what she suggested she could add when they told her sorry, the track is finished? And then in 1997, did someone have to tell her that they didn't want her to do it this way anymore? I don't know why this sparks my curiosity so much, but it really does.
I have always attributed that to Stevie coming in late and off time and not knowing the words LOL
Seriously though, she is famous for coming in late or off time and IMHO that is what she was doing during the Klonopin era Everywhere's
:)

[Kyle]

Thanks for explaining that.
I don't want to be unduly controversial on the Stevie forum, but when I'd seen that mention of Stevie on Everywhere I could not for the life of me think of where she appears on the song. And after reading your explanation, I listened to the 2017 remaster on headphones at high volume, and sure enough she is nowhere to be seen or heard (just in my opinion), so I guess this might have been a case where Mick was drawing on something that actually transpired.

Although clearly the OP believes that Stevie is on Everywhere, and for the purposes of this thread I'm cool with deferring to that interpretation.

I think Mick got confused in his book. I think he is referring to "Little Lies". Some people think that some of Stevie's vocals on "Little Lies" are hers and some are "Lindsey's trickery". I don't have an opinion.

My favorite is the "Hold Me" outtake.

[DownOnRodeo]

I think Mick got confused in his book. I think he is referring to "Little Lies". Some people think that some of Stevie's vocals on "Little Lies" are hers and some are "Lindsey's trickery". I don't have an opinion.

Interesting.
I'll admit to a slight possibility that the "tell me lies" could possibly be Lindsey (ie on helium), but there's no way that the "you can't disguise" part could be Lindsey and not Stevie. There's no way to emulate that deep 80s Stevie raspy timbre, however many dials you twist or Fairlights you program.

But yes that doesn't change the fact that the track is almost entirely Chris and Lindsey.

Fleetwood Mac--the band where the girls have boys names and sing in low voices, and the guy has a girl's name and sings in a high voice. Diversity ahead of its time!

[Macfan4life]

If it's Lindsey performing Stevie on Little Lies, he deserves a lifetime achievement award of some sorts. My theory is she may have been on some rough cut of the song and Lindsey took those parts and layered them into the final track. That explains why she is not on the main chorus. Still genius!

[bombaysaffires]

The bits that are Lindsey are in the body of the chorus to make it sound like her harmonies were in the mix.

Later she showed up and added her bits. Don't know if they kept what harmonies of her own she added to the choruses or not, but the "You can't disguise" and "tell me liiiiieees" parts are clearly her. Her pitch was lower by then from all the cigs, years touring, and drugs.

[petep9000]

Tango in the Night-Everywhere


You're saying you can actually pick Stevie's vocal out of that shimmery wall of sound? I don't believe Mick's book, he's confused. I'm sure his ghostwriter mixed up the songs, and "Little Lies" was the song that FM "gleefully layered her vocals in" on.

On the other hand, people say that Lindsey provided the "I am what I am what I am what I am what I am what I am...." bridge on "Family Man" himself using some kind of vocal emulator. We don't know that for sure. It sounds a LOT like Stevie, unlike the "uh, AH" sounds on "Big Love" which Mick's book says is Lindsey. I think "Family Man" includes Stevie and I can't be convinced otherwise unless someone from the band goes on record saying it isn't. I know Lindsey felt Stevie's vocals weren't up to par and he cut as much of her out as possible.

[petep9000]

I'll have to respectfully ask you to point out where you think Stevie can be heard on Go Your Own Way.

On the final "You can call it another lonely day" before the guitar solo. You can't miss her. She's unmistakable.

[Macfan4life]

You're saying you can actually pick Stevie's vocal out of that shimmery wall of sound? I don't believe Mick's book, he's confused. I'm sure his ghostwriter mixed up the songs, and "Little Lies" was the song that FM "gleefully layered her vocals in" on.

On the other hand, people say that Lindsey provided the "I am what I am what I am what I am what I am what I am...." bridge on "Family Man" himself using some kind of vocal emulator. We don't know that for sure. It sounds a LOT like Stevie, unlike the "uh, AH" sounds on "Big Love" which Mick's book says is Lindsey. I think "Family Man" includes Stevie and I can't be convinced otherwise unless someone from the band goes on record saying it isn't. I know Lindsey felt Stevie's vocals weren't up to par and he cut as much of her out as possible.
I don't think Mick confused songs in his book because its pretty clear Stevie IS on Little Lies even though its a small part. Stevie was upset about songs she was not on. Mick never stated they layered in her voice. That would have been insulting to her and the band. Its speculation that after she returned and threw a fit that it happened.
If I remember, the situation happened just as Stevie returned to the studio after rehab and the album was almost finished. Stevie was listening to the album and threw a fit and threatened the band to tell Rolling Stone she had nothing to do with the album. She picked Everywhere and said "that should be me singing background" Christine was having none of it after having a few glasses of wine and yelled at Stevie "I wanted you to be on Everywhere but you were not here'

[petep9000]

I don't think Mick confused songs in his book because its pretty clear Stevie IS on Little Lies even though its a small part. Stevie was upset about songs she was not on. Mick never stated they layered in her voice. That would have been insulting to her and the band. Its speculation that after she returned and threw a fit that it happened.
If I remember, the situation happened just as Stevie returned to the studio after rehab and the album was almost finished. Stevie was listening to the album and threw a fit and threatened the band to tell Rolling Stone she had nothing to do with the album. She picked Everywhere and said "that should be me singing background" Christine was having none of it after having a few glasses of wine and yelled at Stevie "I wanted you to be on Everywhere but you were not here'

I don't have a copy of his book anymore, do you? I could have sworn he specifically says they "layered" her vocals in, but I admit I could be wrong it's been many years.

Of course it's clear she's on "Little Lies" but the backing vocals on "Everywhere" all blend into each other. You never hear any of the distinguishing Stevie Nicks features pop out, and by 86-87 her voice was pretty easy to pick out due to how haggy it was. If she's on there it's not in any kind of way that makes a difference, to my ear anyway.

[bombaysaffires]

You're saying you can actually pick Stevie's vocal out of that shimmery wall of sound? I don't believe Mick's book, he's confused. I'm sure his ghostwriter mixed up the songs, and "Little Lies" was the song that FM "gleefully layered her vocals in" on.

On the other hand, people say that Lindsey provided the "I am what I am what I am what I am what I am what I am...." bridge on "Family Man" himself using some kind of vocal emulator. We don't know that for sure. It sounds a LOT like Stevie, unlike the "uh, AH" sounds on "Big Love" which Mick's book says is Lindsey. I think "Family Man" includes Stevie and I can't be convinced otherwise unless someone from the band goes on record saying it isn't. I know Lindsey felt Stevie's vocals weren't up to par and he cut as much of her out as possible.

wait, so who do you think is singing the "I am what I am" bit on Family Man? Stevie ??? :lol:
I hear no one on that bit but him.

[Macfan4life]

I remember when Big Love came out. Many DJ's were reporting it was Stevie doing the grunts LOL
One particular one I remember was also a fat joke stating it was Stevie trying to fit into her jeans :eek:

[petep9000]

wait, so who do you think is singing the "I am what I am" bit on Family Man? Stevie ??? :lol:
I hear no one on that bit but him.

The bridge part, not the chorus. I don’t know how Lindsey could achieve a replica of Stevie’s voice like that using 1987 technology. There are too many identical features to her shaggy 1986-1987 pre Klonopin voice. How people don’t actually hear that amazes me. It’s my belief that she laid down some vocals and then he took them and then manipulated them. All it probably needed was one or two “I am what I am” and then he took it from there.

This is what I was told from a former friend who used to post on here until he had some sort of a break: Lindsey was dead set on releasing the album without Stevie because he hated/was jealous of her so much. He thought the parts she recorded for Lindsey and Christine’s songs were terrible and cut them out. I’ve heard Stevie herself admit to that in interviews. Warner told him in no uncertain terms the album wouldn’t be released without more Stevie on it, and that she had to be prominently featured on the album art and videos, AND that she had to have a big single. He had to agree else the album would have been shelved.