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ricohv
09-14-2018, 12:21 AM
http://www.fleetwoodmacnews.com/2018/09/mick-fleetwood-talks-moving-forward.html
Mick Fleetwood Talks Moving Forward Without Lindsey Buckingham, Working a Tom Petty Tune Into Fleetwood Mac's Setlist
By Gary Graff
Billboard
BILLBOARD
"Change is not an unfamiliar thing in Fleetwood Mac," drummer and co-founder Mick Fleetwood tells Billboard as the group gears up for the Oct. 3 launch of its An Evening with Fleetwood Mac tour.
But even by Mac standards -- 18 members, not counting touring adjuncts, over its 51 years -- the latest shift is a doozy.
You'd have to be living under a rock to not know that Lindsey Buckingham is out of the group again, due to disagreements over the timing of the upcoming tour and other issues. Joining Fleetwood, bassist John McVie, singer Stevie Nicks and signer-keyboardist Christine McVie now is the eyebrow-raising duo of Split Enz/Crowded House veteran Neil Finn and Heartbreakers guitarist Mike Campbell in his first public endeavor since Tom Petty's death last Oct. 2.
It's as dramatic a move as any in Fleetwood Mac's storied career -- perhaps even greater than Buckingham's last departure, in 1987, which brought Billy Burnette and Rick Vito into the band. The schism still rankles, of course, but as the Mac makes ready to hit the road in North America -- with dates booked into early April -- Fleetwood is accentuating the positive and predicting plenty of, er, future games for what he promises is not a one-off but rather the new lineup of his band.
All parties, including Lindsey, were talking during the past couple of years about a definite tour for 2018. The events that transpired probably weren't the way you envisioned commemorating the 50th anniversary of Fleetwood Mac's first two albums.
No, it's fair to say that it wasn't. Having said that, the reality was, in simple language, we weren't happy, and the details of that are part of the fabric, almost, of the story of Fleetwood Mac. We weren't expecting this time, but it also does not seem surprising. Every man and woman in Fleetwood Mac wish Lindsey well in any ventures he's doing and also have a huge respect for what he did with Fleetwood Mac; Having said that, it wasn't working for us and we made the decision as a band to continue, and that's what we've done with open heart. We've found two unbelievably talented gentlemen that have more than their own story to tell -- which, by the way, is what's made this work. They're stylists, and they have their own integrity as artists, which I think was a huge help in what we're doing.
And it's not the first time you've been to this rodeo, as it were.
That's right. If you look at the track record of this crazy outfit known as Fleetwood Mac over the last 50-odd years, change is not an unfamiliar thing. We don't look at it in a flippant way or in a light way. This is a huge change. But we went into it with spirit and knew that it was really, really good and had to feel right. And now we are able to say that and feel that and, now, play that. That's how we got where we are. It's a big decision and it had to be right, and with Mike and Neil that spirit has been ignited in a way that made this really make sense.
A lot of bands crumble when the first change happens. What is it about Fleetwood Mac that's allowed you to stay the course through some truly seismic shifts?
I don't actually know. Sometimes me and John McVie sit there with tongue in cheek and go, "What is that?" For sure it's part of the story. I think it's stubbornness...and the love of what we do. Being the rhythm section of Fleetwood Mac, the reality is we don't function unless we're in a band. I'm not being sort of flip; I think that may very well having something to do with it. We want to play, and if we're going to play there has to be a band around us. We're not all 18 years old, but we're certainly not too ancient to be doing what we're doing -- which, by the way, I believe we do better now than when we were 18 years old.
So how do you make a big change like this work?
I think one of the reasons we've survived is that we welcome people for who they are, not have them feel they need to be a karaoke copycat or anything. Anyone who's come into this band has been free to be who they are and they've been accepted as such and they've not been trained to, "You've got to do this, you've got to do that," and it's the same now. For sure there are moments in time where certain lineups of Fleetwood Mac have prevailed at a much larger sort of proportion than other moments in our band's history, but I can't think of another band that has done it like we have.
Does that track record for change in a way make it easier for Neil and Mike to step in than maybe it was for Lindsey and Stevie back in 1975?
You are completely correct, absolutely. I think one of the amazing things is both Mike and Neil have their own credibility in their own right from their careers, but they were thrilled to be playing songs that are not their songs. The amount of absolute pleasure they're having in playing these songs energizes the rest of us, and of course their own styles have affected some of the things we're doing, which is invigorating. They have huge deference to what we're doing and huge respect for this long story which is Fleetwood Mac, but they bring their own substance and we're having fun reinterpreting a couple things here and there which I think is going to be different and fun for our audience, too.
You've indicated that having Neil and Mike in the band has really opened up the setlist possibilities. What can we expect from the shows?
It has opened up musical sort of variances. We're over 50 years old, so we're quietly having fun delving into some stuff that we haven't done for 45 years. That's been really exciting and adventurous to be able to do that and put a great set together where I think there will be some surprises. I won't give you the song titles, but we also have two really talented gentlemen who have their own story to tell, and Fleetwood Mac is more than loving being able to pay a tribute to from whence these two gentlemen have come. You'll be hearing a couple things they're connected to from their history. And the bulk of these songs are going to be focused on what people know and love and expect. We're not going to walk on a stage and not play "Dreams" or "You Make Loving Fun" or "Landslide," so all of that is part and parcel of what we're doing.
There's also a certain intertwining of a big Fleetwood Mac's tenure with what Mike did with the Heartbreakers, too?
Stevie, of course, is well versed with Mike and Tom Petty, and that's a lot of fun to be able to do that. It is hugely appropriate that we're doing a Tom Petty and Mike Campbell song on stage, a Heartbreakers song. He wasn't sure whether he wanted to do it, but we said, "You've got to do it!" I won't tell you the song, but we love it and we are doing it.
What's it like for you and John to play some of the really old stuff again? Will you see ghosts when you start rolling them out?
It is amazing and we are playing a few very old songs and we pay kudos to Peter Green, who started this band; People think it's me and John, but it's Peter Green, and when Peter left we carried on. So there will be those, as you said, ghosts or reappearances of a type of energy we've been connected to. It's a lot of fun going back, and how cool is it that we're playing "Oh Well" and Mike's kicking the hell out of it -- and, coincidentally, Tom Petty used to do "Oh Well" in his show. So all of this funny, connective stuff has been sort of a reminder of from whence we have come.
Everything happened so quickly here. Have you had time to consider what the future holds?
Well, this IS the new lineup of Fleetwood Mac. (Finn and Campbell) are not just passing through. I look forward to making music with Mike and Neil; I think we all do. It isn't right now, but this is a highly creative bunch of people that still have a lot in that bag, in that mojo bag, that I would love to see, and I think we will see some of that over the next couple years or so. We're on the first level now with touring, and my vision and hope, knowing the creativity that's alive not only with the songwriting talents of Stevie and Chris but with both Neil and Mike is we have a lot to look forward to. That's what makes a band a real band.
So onward...and upward?
I hope so. It's all very different, and once you've got the notion to go forward and with your head held high, this is what it's about. We have a vibrant band and we're really excited about what we're doing and have unbelievably good feelings about Mike and Neil being part of Fleetwood Mac. So onward we go.
BombaySapphire3
09-14-2018, 12:32 AM
God.. I can't stand this shyster.
HomerMcvie
09-14-2018, 12:39 AM
God.. I can't stand this shyster.
Amen. What a f*cking dirtbag.
Nathan
09-14-2018, 01:11 AM
Wow, kind of wishing my ticket would well on StubHub.
I’ll happily go still but I can’t say that I’m excited to hear Dreams, You Make Loving Fun, or Landslide. Or especially Stop Dragging My Heart Around.
AncientQueen
09-14-2018, 02:26 AM
This is going to be the Allstar Revue everyone was fearing. Old FM tunes, Heartbreakers, Crowded House, some Stevie/Mike Campbell duet plus the most beaten to dead horses from FM. And I don't see whom of this people will take charge and go through this mish-mash and render it homogenous enough to make them sound like a band.
What the hell is this Stevie/Mike duet? SDMHA, I Need To Know?? Will it be an unexpected song...hmm. A Heartbreakers song he says-Don't Come Around Here No More?
Macfan4life
09-14-2018, 04:17 AM
A few things stood out to me. Finn and Campbell really like playing another band's music? Maybe but you know most musicians like to play THEIR music and things they created. Love the integrity that Campbell has in not wanting to do a Heartbreaker song on Fleetwood Mac's stage. He gets it. Is this Fleetwood Mac or not? Of course Stevie insisted and got her way.
I never read this but someone said on another thread that the song is SDMHA.
Truly they have become Crowded Heartbreakers Mac.
I was thinking INTK cause it's an uptempo song and she's done it in her solo shows. Then I thought about Don't Come Around cause the girls or Stevie sang backup on it. SDMHA makes the most sense tho. She got a good response to the song on her 24K tour and can tell the story of the song. Maybe have a little banter with Mike about the song. If this is the song I won't be surprised. At this point nothing will surprise me.
Storms123
09-14-2018, 04:58 AM
The more this guy opens his mouth, the saddened and disgusted I get about the entire situation. And every time he opens his mouth, he makes it worse for him/FM
Totally agree. All of his "positive" remarks about Lindsey come off as perfunctory and that pisses me off. Never mind trying to convince the public about the new FM--I think he's trying to convince himself.
sodascouts
09-14-2018, 06:16 AM
SDMA isn't a Heartbreakers song that features Mike and his former band to the degree where he would feel uncomfortable ("you've got to do it"). It is a Stevie solo song and I daresay it wouldn't be her only solo song in the set, so why would he feel discomfort with it?
They still might do SDMA on top of this, but I think this is something else.
SDMA isn't a Heartbreakers song that features Mike and his former band to the degree where he would feel uncomfortable ("you've got to do it"). It is a Stevie solo song and I daresay it wouldn't be her only solo song in the set, so why would he feel discomfort with it?
They still might do SDMA on top of this, but I think this is something else.
yup. they'll be doing both SDMA and a Petty solo song, i have no doubt.
meanwhile, Lindsey is talking to fans on social media, and discussing songs people are asking for that he might be considering.
lovethemac1
09-14-2018, 07:40 AM
Was he high when he did this? It's so rambling and annoying.
sodascouts
09-14-2018, 07:55 AM
We're not all 18 years old, but we're certainly not too ancient to be doing what we're doing -- which, by the way, I believe we do better now than when we were 18 years old.
Who's "we"? He may be performing better than ever (in his own opinion), but Christine and Stevie certainly aren't by any objective standard (not to be harsh - age takes its toll upon us all). Is John at the height of his powers?
how cool is it that we're playing "Oh Well"
It was cool when you did "Oh Well" a couple tours ago too, Mick. I guess Mick assumes we've all forgotten about that. Lindsey's refusal to touch anything pre-1975: another false narrative... but it's especially contemptible when his example of something older that it's oh-so-exciting to finally be able to play (now that Lindsey's implied reign of terror is over) is the one older song they've actually performed in recent years!
I look forward to making music with Mike and Neil; I think we all do. It isn't right now, but this is a highly creative bunch of people that still have a lot in that bag, in that mojo bag, that I would love to see, and I think we will see some of that over the next couple years or so.
So much for the "calling card." I'm actually relieved. They don't need to embarrass themselves on an album the way they're doing live.
aleuzzi
09-14-2018, 08:05 AM
He talks and talks and says nothing.
Storms123
09-14-2018, 08:31 AM
He talks and talks and says nothing.
The more he speaks, the more it becomes clear he can’t remember all the lies he told
HomerMcvie
09-14-2018, 09:47 AM
The more he speaks, the more it becomes clear he can’t remember all the lies he told
It's actually hard to tell who's more delusional, Dick or $tevie. They both spew such bullsh*t.
nicepace
09-14-2018, 09:53 AM
I wonder how many of the people buying tickets for this tour know any of the pre-1975 material. Maybe they've heard a handful of songs because they were covered by other musicians, but does the average concert goer know "Station Man," "Hypnotized," "Rattlesnake Shake," even "Oh Well"?
It seems highly unlikely to me that this configuration of the band will play many of those pre-1975 songs. Or, if they start the tour with playing them, they will start dropping them from the set when they see the lack of interest from the audience.
Hardcore FM fans who enjoy all the eras of the band would like to hear those songs, but I suspect fans who fit that description are a tiny percentage of those who will be attending these shows.
DownOnRodeo
09-14-2018, 10:20 AM
Did someone say--20 minute drum solo? :thumbsup:
dontlookdown
09-14-2018, 10:22 AM
He talks a good game.
And he sounded great on Ellen. Nobody else in the band did -- hoping it was a mix issue...
Sounds like they'll be doing I Need To Know.
I'm looking at this tour as a Stevie Nicks show with special guests.
lovethemac1
09-14-2018, 10:57 AM
Did someone say--20 minute drum solo? :thumbsup:
Frick, that was funny!!!:laugh::laugh::laugh:
ricohv
09-14-2018, 11:52 AM
The REALLY weird thing to me is that my LEAST favorite member (Mick) now seems to be the only one left with any zest, showmanship, stage presence or mojo. YIIIIIIIIIIIIKESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!
BigAl84
09-14-2018, 12:04 PM
What the hell is this Stevie/Mike duet? SDMHA, I Need To Know?? Will it be an unexpected song...hmm. A Heartbreakers song he says-Don't Come Around Here No More?
It will be Runaway Trains because it will allow stevie to tell another 15 minute story about how she stole the instrumental track and got busted by tom.
It has to be all about her!
HomerMcvie
09-14-2018, 12:08 PM
The REALLY weird thing to me is that my LEAST favorite member (Mick) now seems to be the only one left with any zest, showmanship, stage presence or mojo. YIIIIIIIIIIIIKESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!
Maybe that's why he wanted Lindsey out. He couldn't outperform him!
Sugar Mouse
09-14-2018, 12:36 PM
Gary Graff's article makes some great points about how Fleetwood Mac has always been about changing members. They have more albums without Lindsey than with Lindsey after all. Looking forward to hearing some Peter Green and Danny Kirwan songs in the upcoming set list.
SteveMacD
09-14-2018, 12:47 PM
He talks and talks and says nothing.
It reminded me of that moment in DR...
Mick: I want to say something.
John: You’ve said enough! Jesus Christ, you should be in the Senate or something.
wilsonmac
09-14-2018, 12:56 PM
It reminded me of that moment in DR...
Mick: I want to say something.
John: You’ve said enough! Jesus Christ, you should be in the Senate or something.
hahaha. it reminded me of exactly the same thing! John said something like "you've said enough"
I really cant stand this guy anymore. This whole thing is ridiculous.
Street_Dreamer
09-14-2018, 01:18 PM
It was cool when you did it a couple tours ago too. I guess Mick assumes we've all forgotten about that. Lindsey's refusal to touch anything pre-1975: another false narrative... but it's especially contemptible when his example of something older that it's oh-so-exciting to finally be able to play (now that Lindsey's implied reign of terror is over) is the one older song they've actually performed in recent years!
Yeah, somehow we're supposed to believe that Mick and John have zero say as to what's in the touring set list. GTFOH! Hypnotized SHOULD be and have been a featured song the past few tours since the man that "saved Fleetwood Mac", Bob Welch is no longer with us.
aleuzzi
09-14-2018, 01:29 PM
It reminded me of that moment in DR...
Mick: I want to say something.
John: You’ve said enough! Jesus Christ, you should be in the Senate or something.
Yes!!!! Good tie-in.
It will be Runaway Trains because it will allow stevie to tell another 15 minute story about how she stole the instrumental track and got busted by tom.
It has to be all about her!
I can totally see this happening. Chris will have to use her whistle. I want to see how Neil handles standing around while she talks. Lindsey always interacted with the audience
BigAl84
09-14-2018, 02:55 PM
Gary Graff's article makes some great points about how Fleetwood Mac has always been about changing members. They have more albums without Lindsey than with Lindsey after all. Looking forward to hearing some Peter Green and Danny Kirwan songs in the upcoming set list.
Yes and I believe you've echoed the same comments about...
150,000,000,000,000,000,000 times
Time for some new material.
bombaysaffires
09-14-2018, 03:47 PM
Funny how they think new music won't work because people don't know it..... but somehow think youngsters will know songs from the 1960s. Most were born in the 1990s so Rumours material is golden oldies from their parents. :laugh:
AncientQueen
09-14-2018, 04:36 PM
Hypnotized SHOULD be and have been a featured song the past few tours since the man that "saved Fleetwood Mac", Bob Welch is no longer with us.I totally agree. Plus - it is just a great song, FM should have played it proudly on every tour.
Street_Dreamer
09-14-2018, 06:26 PM
I totally agree. Plus - it is just a great song, FM should have played it proudly on every tour.
I mean, the signature of the song is the rhythm section. Other than The Chain, it's the band's most well known song that prominently features John.
So sadly, I've come to the realization that for the first time in my life, FM is no longer my favorite band. And I don't give a crap what they do from this point onward. Which I'll say has never happened before, even with TIME BOMB Mac. I'll always treasure the past. But the way things are "ending" with them just makes me ill. Mick is a real card!
Sugar Mouse
09-14-2018, 07:56 PM
Yes and I believe you've echoed the same comments about...
150,000,000,000,000,000,000 times
Time for some new material.
Thank you so much for letting me know about the Ledge's policy about not repeating oneself. I feel so much better knowing that you won't be repeating the same anti-Mick and anti-Stevie rubbish that you and others have been repeating for months.
button-lip
09-14-2018, 08:00 PM
So sadly, I've come to the realization that for the first time in my life, FM is no longer my favorite band. And I don't give a crap what they do from this point onward. Which I'll say has never happened before, even with TIME BOMB Mac. I'll always treasure the past. But the way things are "ending" with them just makes me ill. Mick is a real card!
Same here. Today, I finally wished them on Twitter the worst you can posible wish a person. So, yeah....
I'm planning on bringing one of my FM tshirts to Lindsey's concerts, but it will be a protest tshirt. They're no longer part of my life, so I'm gonna literally cross them out of my tshirt. :woohoo:
button-lip
09-14-2018, 08:02 PM
Thank you so much for letting me know about the Ledge's policy about not repeating oneself. I feel so much better knowing that you won't be repeating the same anti-Mick and anti-Stevie rubbish that you and others have been repeating for months.
Rubbish? Are you still defending them? Seriously? Enjoy your pre BN concert. At this rate, it will be the only leg of this shameful tour.
Same here. Today, I finally wished them on Twitter the worst you can posible wish a person. So, yeah....
I'm planning on bringing one of my FM tshirts to Lindsey's concerts, but it will be a protest tshirt. They're no longer part of my life, so I'm gonna literally cross them out of my tshirt. :woohoo:
You know that this was the first band I fell in love with back in '75 and have been ever so faithful to up until this point. You have no idea how many magazines I collected, radio interviews I listened to, concerts I attended, and albums I so highly anticipated over the years. Now, it's just **** to me. Wow, I can't even believe I'm typing this.
Sugar Mouse
09-14-2018, 08:07 PM
Rubbish? Are you still defending them? Seriously? Enjoy your pre BN concert. At this rate, it will be the only leg of this shameful tour.
Yes, it's rubbish. What did Mick say that was untrue?
Storms123
09-14-2018, 08:07 PM
Same here. Today, I finally wished them on Twitter the worst you can posible wish a person. So, yeah....
I'm planning on bringing one of my FM tshirts to Lindsey's concerts, but it will be a protest tshirt. They're no longer part of my life, so I'm gonna literally cross them out of my tshirt. :woohoo:
I have an Rumours Vinyl from my uncle that he got the day the album was released. I am going to bring to the NY show with the hope he will sign it
button-lip
09-14-2018, 08:12 PM
Yes, it's rubbish. What did Mick say that was untrue?
Hmmm, that he has balls? If he truly has them, he will be answering Lindsey's calls, WHICH HE ISN'T, in case you haven't understand it.
Pass the message to him, please.
button-lip
09-14-2018, 08:13 PM
I have an Rumours Vinyl from my uncle that he got the day the album was released. I am going to bring to the NY show with the hope he will sign it
Oh, I will also bring my vinyls and stuff for him to sign. NYC? I will see you there. :wavey:
Hmmm, that he has balls? If he truly has them, he will be answering Lindsey's calls, WHICH HE ISN'T, in case you haven't understand it.
Pass the message to him, please.
**** YEAH!
HomerMcvie
09-14-2018, 08:37 PM
You know that this was the first band I fell in love with back in '75 and have been ever so faithful to up until this point. You have no idea how many magazines I collected, radio interviews I listened to, concerts I attended, and albums I so highly anticipated over the years. Now, it's just **** to me. Wow, I can't even believe I'm typing this.
From the late 70s-late 80s, I have VOLUMES of magazine clippings, etc.
They're dead to me now.
From the late 70s-late 80s, I have VOLUMES of magazine clippings, etc.
They're dead to me now.
The White Album was the FIRST album I bought! Followed by The Eagles "One of These Nights" and Queen's "A Night at the Opera". I've been following these MF's a long time!!!!!!! I just don't give a **** anymore! :distress:
HomerMcvie
09-14-2018, 08:46 PM
The White Album was the FIRST album I bought! Followed by The Eagles "One of These Nights" and Queen's "A Night at the Opera". I've been following these MF's a long time!!!!!!! I just don't give a **** anymore! :distress:
Ha! Hotel California was my first real(non-K-tel) album.
Then my older cousin moved in with us, with her FM collection, and I was never the same.
Ha! Hotel California was my first real(non-K-tel) album.
Then my older cousin moved in with us, with her FM collection, and I was never the same.
You HEARD THE MAC!! :woohoo:
HomerMcvie
09-14-2018, 08:49 PM
You HEARD THE MAC!! :woohoo:
Became completely and utterly OBSESSED.
Became completely and utterly OBSESSED.
I went from '75 back, kinda like Stevie did. And yes, I believed there was something I could tap in to! What a fantastic experience it was/has been!
HomerMcvie
09-14-2018, 08:56 PM
I went from '75 back, kinda like Stevie did. And yes, I believed there was something I could tap in to! What a fantastic experience it was/has been!
Agreed. And I ventured back through the Bob Welch years, too. Although the Rumours lineup will always be #1(past tense, now).
Agreed. And I ventured back through the Bob Welch years, too. Although the Rumours lineup will always be #1(past tense, now).
Rumours 5 first for me, then the Middle Mac years with Kirwan and Welch second.
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bombaysaffires
09-14-2018, 09:22 PM
Richard Dashut on his Twitter 53 minutes ago:
Look I’m clearly on Lindsey’s side but I refuse to trash the rest of the band for a decision I was not present for. They were all my friends so I find myself in a rather difficult position. I am not here to judge, I shall leave that to you. The music shall outlive the bull****!
sasja
09-14-2018, 09:47 PM
Truly, that piece can hardly be a surprise to anyone, can it? I mean, what else would one expect from that shyster, and, by association, that whole bunch?
May their concerts be dark holes of awfulness, and may they get the worst reviews in the history of Rock 'n Roll.
Richard Dashut on his Twitter 53 minutes ago:
Look I’m clearly on Lindsey’s side but I refuse to trash the rest of the band for a decision I was not present for. They were all my friends so I find myself in a rather difficult position. I am not here to judge, I shall leave that to you. The music shall outlive the bull****!
A thread of its' own perhaps? Not Mick's Billboard Interview. I really think that is a very interesting topic to begin on its' own. Or tie it into some other twitter thread?
sodascouts
09-14-2018, 09:58 PM
Richard Dashut on his Twitter 53 minutes ago:
Look I’m clearly on Lindsey’s side but I refuse to trash the rest of the band for a decision I was not present for. They were all my friends so I find myself in a rather difficult position. I am not here to judge, I shall leave that to you. The music shall outlive the bull****!
It always annoys me when people announce that they're NOT going to say something negative/trash talk/whatever. It's like they want to be applauded or something.
Just don't trash the band and leave it at that.
Unless, of course, he wants to make sure he doesn't piss anyone off, in which case a clear "declaration of friendship" is necessary, perhaps.
A thread of its' own perhaps? Not Mick's Billboard Interview. I really think that is a very interesting topic to begin on its' own. Or tie it into some other twitter thread?
start it if you feel like it. that tweet was preceeded by 2 other tweets earlier today where RD was claiming that he doesn't think LB would be on social media, and fans replying to him that he is, as also confirmed by his wife, and RD ultimately conceding that point. here are those tweets, starting from the bottom:
Richard Dashut
Verified account
@RichardDashut
2h2 hours ago
Look I’m clearly on Lindsey’s side but I refuse to trash the rest of the band for a decision I was not present for. They were all my friends so I find myself in a rather difficult position. I am not here to judge, I shall leave that to you. The music shall outlive the bull****!
Richard Dashut
Verified account
@RichardDashut
2h2 hours ago
Apparently you all out there know a lot more than I do because I must admit I don’t do much social media myself anymore except Twitter. So I guess it really is Lindsey. No I’m not going to call & ask him, I shall take your word for it. Will be looking to you for further info. o&o
Richard Dashut
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@RichardDashut
4h4 hours ago
I can’t picture Lindsey doing much social media. To distracting from his music which defines his art, in turn defining his life. (Along with his family) I remain skeptical.. r
Richard Dashut
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@RichardDashut
5h5 hours ago
I don’t doubt you, it just doesn’t sound like him. To bad this whole thing has turned into one big “sh*itshow”. It’s supposed to be about the music. Getting sidetracked is not the legacy the records deserve, the band members are acting like a distraction at this point.
start it if you feel like it. that tweet was preceeded by 2 other tweets earlier today where RD was claiming that he doesn't think LB would be on social media, and fans replying to him that he is, as also confirmed by his wife, and RD ultimately conceding that point. here are those tweets, starting from the bottom:
Richard Dashut
Verified account
@RichardDashut
2h2 hours ago
Look I’m clearly on Lindsey’s side but I refuse to trash the rest of the band for a decision I was not present for. They were all my friends so I find myself in a rather difficult position. I am not here to judge, I shall leave that to you. The music shall outlive the bull****!
Richard Dashut
Verified account
@RichardDashut
2h2 hours ago
Apparently you all out there know a lot more than I do because I must admit I don’t do much social media myself anymore except Twitter. So I guess it really is Lindsey. No I’m not going to call & ask him, I shall take your word for it. Will be looking to you for further info. o&o
Richard Dashut
Verified account
@RichardDashut
4h4 hours ago
I can’t picture Lindsey doing much social media. To distracting from his music which defines his art, in turn defining his life. (Along with his family) I remain skeptical.. r
No not me. Up to the Ledgie who brought it up. So I guess he is doubting this is Lindsey tweeting? Why not call Lindsey and ask him? Cynical much Richard? Why be so mysterious about it? Seems like RD just wants to sweep all this under the carpet and LIVE FOR THE MUSIC!? WTF?!
BigAl84
09-14-2018, 10:50 PM
Thank you so much for letting me know about the Ledge's policy about not repeating oneself. I feel so much better knowing that you won't be repeating the same anti-Mick and anti-Stevie rubbish that you and others have been repeating for months.
Anti stevie and Mick? Yeah you have no clue regarding my past with this band, so keep your ignorant trite garbage to yourself. How dare a bunch of Fleetwood Mac fans on a Fleetwood Mac message board fail to start praising Neil Finn, Neil Diamond, or whoever as a new member of the band and fail to immediately start worshipping the ground that Stevie or Mick walk on.
I've been buying tickets and supporting this band lovingly since I was 14 in 1997. The image in my signature - I sent them a letter to the village recorder when word got out they were recording. I was a huge fan of all of them, Stevie included for most of my life. This isn't a who's been a fan longer contest, but don't start implying im just bashing Mick or Stevie because I'm just a hater. I've absolutely shown my support for this band and have really had very little negative things to say until the recent events of the past six months. So take your ignorant garbage judgements and hop back on the garbage barge you arrived on.
From the late 70s-late 80s, I have VOLUMES of magazine clippings, etc.
They're dead to me now.
Do you remember Hit Parader and Cream magazines? :laugh: I wish I still had those magazines. I took all the pics from them and RS etc and made a pic collage/album, which I still have. All the trite verbage gone, just photos remain.
bombaysaffires
09-14-2018, 11:10 PM
A thread of its' own perhaps? Not Mick's Billboard Interview. I really think that is a very interesting topic to begin on its' own. Or tie it into some other twitter thread?
Why does it merit its own thread? There's only so many things to be said about it. I just tossed it into the mix of opinions about the band's behavior. It is what is, nothing more.
Why does it merit its own thread? There's only so many things to be said about it. I just tossed it into the mix of opinions about the band's behavior. It is what is, nothing more.
Well it certainly doesn't belong in Mick's Billboard interview thread. Do what you want with it.
On edit I wanted to say that it was more significant, in my opinion, than to be buried in a Billboard thread about Mick Fleetwood. I apologize if I came across as being crass. I was really saying that I thought what you posted was more significant than that.
sodascouts
09-15-2018, 01:17 AM
I've been buying tickets and supporting this band lovingly since I was 14 in 1997. The image in my signature - I sent them a letter to the village recorder when word got out they were recording. I was a huge fan of all of them, Stevie included for most of my life. This isn't a who's been a fan longer contest, but don't start implying im just bashing Mick or Stevie because I'm just a hater. I've absolutely shown my support for this band and have really had very little negative things to say until the recent events of the past six months. So take your ignorant garbage judgements and hop back on the garbage barge you arrived on.
Isn't that the great irony? Most of us who are so unhappy now have, for years, poured our hearts, time, and money into this band. We're so upset now BECAUSE of our love for Fleetwood Mac, or for what it once was.
I had been looking forward to a Fleetwood Mac tour pretty much since Glenn Frey died and the true Eagles died with him. FM was going to be my balm.
Ha! Mick and Stevie took my broken heart and threw it on the ground...and then Stevie danced a jig on it with a big smile on her face!
I'm well and truly crushed.
sodascouts
09-15-2018, 01:21 AM
Well it certainly doesn't belong in Mick's Billboard interview thread. Do what you want with it.
On edit I wanted to say that it was more significant, in my opinion, than to be buried in a Billboard thread about Mick Fleetwood. I apologize if I came across as being crass. I was really saying that I thought what you posted was more significant than that.
Agreed. By posting it here, it'll get buried, never to be seen again, it about 36 hours.... and if anybody thinks "I wonder where the Dashut tweets were," it's not going to occur to them to look in a thread about Mick Fleetwood's Billboard article, of all places.
David
09-15-2018, 12:01 PM
Gary Graff's article makes some great points about how Fleetwood Mac has always been about changing members. I know! What a keen insight!
They have more albums without Lindsey than with Lindsey after all.. . . and Peter and Danny and Jeremy and Stevie and Weston and Welch and Walker and Vito and Burnette and Bramlett and Mason.
Looking forward to hearing some Peter Green and Danny Kirwan songs in the upcoming set list.Well, hold your breath! :blob1:
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