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elle
08-19-2018, 04:53 PM
this is a thread to discuss below, instead of the Record thread which the starter asked to be devoid of interpretations and have only statements from the band members and closest friends, co-wrokers and family.

tweet / instagram comment from Kristen Buckingham as an answer to someone's instagram post showing one of those pro-LB flyers around LA. this one was saying:

"missing: Fleetwood Mac's loyalty to Lindsey Buckingham"

Kristen's comment:

"������ Actually it was found dead Jan 28 in SN basement after being held captive and tortured for many moons. MF guilty of aiding and abetting."

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elle
08-19-2018, 04:55 PM
Nancy's comment in the other thread:

Apparently so. Understandable but unfortunate in this case because as you said, she makes it quite plain who wanted Lindsey out and when the ax fell.

Nancy and John, it would be great if you guys would remove your comments / discussion / interpretation from the record thread and continue your discussion here.

jbrownsjr
08-19-2018, 04:59 PM
Ok, in the spirit of us all trying to get along. I'll delete mine.

Apologies to Nancy and DownonRodeo. I actually forgot where I was quite honestly. But, we seem to be bickering too much. And I don't enjoy it. :xoxo:

button-lip
08-19-2018, 05:12 PM
this is a thread to discuss below, instead of the Record thread which the starter asked to be devoid of interpretations and have only statements from the band members and closest friends, co-wrokers and family.

Two days after Musicares. After all those heartfelt speeches and dances and "Lindsey and I joined FM when we were 16 and 17..." :lol::lol::lol:

It still baffles me how cold some people can be. You have known the man for more than 50 years and you have been plotting his demise since last year... how twisted you can be to do something like that? :distress:

sodascouts
08-19-2018, 05:18 PM
Nancy's comment in the other thread:


Apparently so. Understandable but unfortunate in this case because as you said, she makes it quite plain who wanted Lindsey out and when the ax fell.

Nancy and John, it would be great if you guys would remove your comments / discussion / interpretation from the record thread and continue your discussion here.


Just to clarify: My comment above was in response to DownOnRodeo's query about whether or not there was a time limit to editing posts.

I deleted it anyway.

jbrownsjr
08-19-2018, 05:20 PM
Just to clarify: My comment was in response to DownOnRodeo's query about whether or not there was a time limit to editing posts.

I deleted it anyway.

Mine was also. I think her point was that the poster didn't want any discussion. Which apparently included responding.

sodascouts
08-19-2018, 05:25 PM
Mine was also. I think her point was that the poster didn't want any discussion. Which apparently included responding.

I think it was the fact that there was discussion in addition to the response to the question that was the problem. However, in the case of my post, I was just repeating what DOR had already said, not adding my own interp per se. Ah well. If deleting it keeps The Record on track, I am happy to do so.

elle
08-19-2018, 05:29 PM
Just to clarify: My comment above was in response to DownOnRodeo's query about whether or not there was a time limit to editing posts.

I deleted it anyway.

i know. i almost responded to him about that too, but then decided to keep it out.

so DownonRodeo - it seems there is a limit on how many times you can edit a single post, or maybe it's a time limit. i experienced it before too, and it's definitely there, unfortunately.

i don't think current mods can do anything to change that.


thanks so much for being so nice and keeping it on track, Nancy and John! :nod: :thumbsup:

elle
08-19-2018, 05:36 PM
Two days after Musicares. After all those heartfelt speeches and dances and "Lindsey and I joined FM when we were 16 and 17..." :lol::lol::lol:

It still baffles me how cold some people can be. You have known the man for more than 50 years and you have been plotting his demise since last year... how twisted you can be to do something like that? :distress:

against my better judgement i will add a comment in Rumours forum, since this is some new info. the timeline seems to be:

Jan 26 - Musicares event in NYC.
Jan 27 - Pattie's video with him discussing how he wants to do both Mac and solo tour at the same time in the fall was recorded on Jan 27. at the time LB was heading to the airport to fly back home to LA, and Christine McVie was flying to London at the same time.
Jan 28 - Lindsey is back in LA. Mick is still in NYC. no idea where Stevie and John are. Christine McVie lands in London.

also Jan 28 - LB is fired. since other FM members are scattered throughout the world at the time, and it's unclear whether LB was the only one in LA, must have been fired by the phone call.

this makes me wonder whether John's vote came after the firing already took place? it also confirms Christine's claim that she only heard about it after she landed in London, and that everything seemed on track for the Classic 5 FM tour to her when she got on the plane in NYC on Jan 27.

Angel75
08-19-2018, 06:07 PM
against my better judgement i will add a comment in Rumours forum, since this is some new info. the timeline seems to be:

Jan 26 - Musicares event in NYC.
Jan 27 - Pattie's video with him discussing how he wants to do both Mac and solo tour at the same time in the fall was recorded on Jan 27. at the time LB was heading to the airport to fly back home to LA, and Christine McVie was flying to London at the same time.
Jan 28 - Lindsey is back in LA. Mick is still in NYC. no idea where Stevie and John are. Christine McVie lands in London.

also Jan 28 - LB is fired. since other FM members are scattered throughout the world at the time, and it's unclear whether LB was the only one in LA, must have been fired by the phone call.

this makes me wonder whether John's vote came after the firing already took place? it also confirms Christine's claim that she only heard about it after she landed in London, and that everything seemed on track for the Classic 5 FM tour to her when she got on the plane in NYC on Jan 27.

So then the part about Mick going out to promoters to see if they would support a Stevie less or Lindsey less tour and the promoters votes 19 to 1 for a Lindsey less tour is lies too then as surely in two days they couldn't have approached and got answers back from everyone that fast?
Or do you think this is true and maybe Mick had gone and asked the promoters this all BEFORE MusiCares?

This whole premeditated plan by SN just keeps getting worse each day

elle
08-19-2018, 06:14 PM
So then the part about Mick going out to promoters to see if they would support a Stevie less or Lindsey less tour and the promoters votes 19 to 1 for a Lindsey less tour is lies too then as surely in two days they couldn't have approached and got answers back from everyone that fast?
Or do you think this is true and maybe Mick had gone and asked the promoters this all BEFORE MusiCares?

This whole premeditated plan by SN just keeps getting worse each day

if it happened, it must have been well before Musicares. which again makes it incredibly low and treasonous. which KB also said in her comments recently.

some fans said that no wonder the last song on the new CD that comes with the LB concert ticket is Treason. they might be onto something! ;)

mitzo
08-19-2018, 06:21 PM
He must have done something pretty nasty to have this happen, is all I can say. And as for Christine being caught unawares, how ridiculous.

sodascouts
08-19-2018, 06:21 PM
So then the part about Mick going out to promoters to see if they would support a Stevie less or Lindsey less tour and the promoters votes 19 to 1 for a Lindsey less tour is lies too then as surely in two days they couldn't have approached and got answers back from everyone that fast?
Or do you think this is true and maybe Mick had gone and asked the promoters this all BEFORE MusiCares?

This whole premeditated plan by SN just keeps getting worse each day

I think the promoters thing is suspect. We only heard it from one place, AFAIK - that guy on Facebook, who was a photographer and said he heard it from a friend of the band, right? There was no secondary verification. It wouldn't be the first time third hand information hasn't been accurate.

Besides, Mick didn't need to call any promoters and have them tell him Stevie was more marketable. That's a given. Now, I could see after the fact that he might have had to go tell angry promoters, all of whom had been expecting to market the Rumours 5, that Stevie had forced his hand, that it was better to fire Lindsey than to lose her, and all but one promoter agreeing.

But it's evident they acted as soon as Christine was gone so they could do their "majority rules" without her.

They waited three more days to call Campbell on his birthday and ask him to join the band officially, according to the band's story. If that's true, I think it was more to give him a nice birthday surprise than because they spent those three days deliberating on whether or not to call him.

elle
08-19-2018, 06:22 PM
He must have done something pretty nasty to have this happen, is all I can say. And as for Christine being caught unawares, how ridiculous.

when, last year?

or 40 years ago.

agree about ridiculous. these people are ridiculous. drugs must have ate all their brains, if they even had any to start with. and now everyone is laughing at the "new band" of people in their 70s and saying stupidity like this makes complete sense for FM.

sodascouts
08-19-2018, 06:30 PM
Question: has Christine said when they told her? I didn't see it in The Record thread. I know it was after the fact, but I wonder how long they waited.

button-lip
08-19-2018, 08:01 PM
He must have done something pretty nasty to have this happen, is all I can say. And as for Christine being caught unawares, how ridiculous.

You keep saying that but you still don't know what that "something" must be. Keep dreaming. :D

mitzo
08-19-2018, 08:25 PM
You keep saying that but you still don't know what that "something" must be. Keep dreaming. :D

I know as much as anyone on this board. Which is that the band fired him. I am assuming he did something to cause that. A logical cause and effect assumption.

button-lip
08-19-2018, 08:32 PM
I know as much as anyone on this board. Which is that the band fired him. I am assuming he did something to cause that. A logical cause and effect assumption.

His wife is implying he isn't. It's safe to say she knows more than all of us.

DownOnRodeo
08-19-2018, 08:55 PM
i know. i almost responded to him about that too, but then decided to keep it out.

so DownonRodeo - it seems there is a limit on how many times you can edit a single post, or maybe it's a time limit. i experienced it before too, and it's definitely there, unfortunately.

Thank you Elle, sodascouts, and jbrownsjr!
I clearly bit off more than I can chew with the "Record" thread... which is soon turning into the Kristen Buckingham SNS Repository thread anyway :laugh:

About the Instagram post--well, this seems to potentially dissipate any doubt about who was the master Sith Lord and who was the apprentice.

https://media.giphy.com/media/3oKIPzLXQYb2Bn5PLG/giphy.gif
On the Edge of Palpatine

mitzo
08-19-2018, 10:09 PM
His wife is implying he isn't. It's safe to say she knows more than all of us.

With all due respect she is pissed her husband's earning potential has evaporated, and she is likely not a Stevie fan after Stevie playing the love for Linds on stage and her writing songs with suggestive lyrics about him etc. (see eg. Thrown Down, Fall from Grace, You May Be the One...)

She is in a rage and acting out on social media, dropping f bombs and the like.

secondhandchain
08-19-2018, 11:39 PM
With all due respect she is pissed her husband's earning potential has evaporated, and she is likely not a Stevie fan after Stevie playing the love for Linds on stage and her writing songs with suggestive lyrics about him etc. (see eg. Thrown Down, Fall from Grace, You May Be the One...)

She is in a rage and acting out on social media, dropping f bombs and the like.

LB does NOT need anymore money so nice try.

dreamsunwind
08-20-2018, 03:37 AM
With all due respect she is pissed her husband's earning potential has evaporated, and she is likely not a Stevie fan after Stevie playing the love for Linds on stage and her writing songs with suggestive lyrics about him etc. (see eg. Thrown Down, Fall from Grace, You May Be the One...)

She is in a rage and acting out on social media, dropping f bombs and the like.

Well she welcomed Stevie into her home when the EP was getting made a few years ago. Let her stay there with her family and have dinner with her kids which she totally didn't have to do if she disliked Stevie in the past or didn't want her there. And prior to this whole thing she was always super supportive and encouraging about the band on social media. If you go back to even as recent as the Musicares event you can see her posts. So I doubt that's it.
She probably is not too happy about the money (who wouldn't be?) but it really does seem like the betrayal is what's upset her the most which anyone in the Buckingham family is entitled to.

bwboy
08-20-2018, 05:57 AM
LB does NOT need anymore money so nice try.

I agree Lindsey should be fine financially, but I also think he had expectations about the earnings from the tour. All of them need an income to support their lifestyles, just like we do.

button-lip
08-20-2018, 08:22 AM
With all due respect she is pissed her husband's earning potential has evaporated, and she is likely not a Stevie fan after Stevie playing the love for Linds on stage and her writing songs with suggestive lyrics about him etc. (see eg. Thrown Down, Fall from Grace, You May Be the One...)

She is in a rage and acting out on social media, dropping f bombs and the like.

So because she’s pissed (according to you), she’s lying?

I’m sure after 20+ years of being by Lindsey’s side she’s aware of Stevie’s specter and she doesn’t care. What Stevie planned for her and Lindsey to happen when they were old and what actually did happen are two different things.

So, if we’re talking about someone in a rage, that would be Stevie, not KB.

gldstwmn
08-20-2018, 12:38 PM
Oh. This is a big mistake. Please tell me she is not foolish enough to start trash talking Stevie. :distress: There will be a huge backlash.

gldstwmn
08-20-2018, 12:42 PM
He must have done something pretty nasty to have this happen, is all I can say. And as for Christine being caught unawares, how ridiculous.

If she thinks she is going to come for Stevie she is making a huge gaffe. I feared this might happen.

gldstwmn
08-20-2018, 12:49 PM
LB does NOT need anymore money so nice try.
Really? Why is Mr. Integrity having $300 meet and greets then? He watched a **** ton of money fly out the window with the loss of the FM tour and his wife has some expensive habits like building $20 million homes among other things.

sue
08-20-2018, 01:00 PM
As far as Stevie is concerned, this looks worse than I ever imagined...

And sorry, Et Tu Brute, sums up Christine’s hand in all this.

( what does KB mean about the basement? )

gldstwmn
08-20-2018, 01:27 PM
As far as Stevie is concerned, this looks worse than I ever imagined...

And sorry, Et Tu Brute, sums up Christine’s hand in all this.

( what does KB mean about the basement? )

Why doesn't KB just come out and say what really happened instead of taking pot shots at the band on social media? I'll tell you why. It's not gonna make hubby look too good. That's why. Not to mention does anyone think that the band or their management is going to allow this BS to torpedo this tour?

button-lip
08-20-2018, 01:31 PM
Really? Why is Mr. Integrity having $300 meet and greets then? He watched a **** ton of money fly out the window with the loss of the FM tour and his wife has some expensive habits like building $20 million homes among other things.

M&G = $100
Ticket = $200

jbrownsjr
08-20-2018, 01:35 PM
M&G = $100
Ticket = $200

I actually thought his ticket prices were very reasonable. BuckVie was much more.

button-lip
08-20-2018, 01:38 PM
I actually thought his ticket prices were very reasonable. BuckVie was much more.

They're reasonable to me. You can find tickets on many venues at $100. $300 for a M&G AND a concert is really good! :woohoo:

And sales are going really well. :]:]

jbrownsjr
08-20-2018, 01:52 PM
They're reasonable to me. You can find tickets on many venues at $100. $300 for a M&G AND a concert is really good! :woohoo:

And sales are going really well. :]:]

I might be in DC the weekend of his show.

sodascouts
08-20-2018, 02:33 PM
Oh. This is a big mistake. Please tell me she is not foolish enough to start trash talking Stevie. :distress: There will be a huge backlash.

Stevie's defenders are not as numerous as they used to be.

That said, I agree that it would be a bad idea to escalate this into an insult fest.

Right now, it's just a jab at the fact that Stevie was indeed disloyal to Lindsey, which even her defenders recognize; they just believe it was justifiable. If I were Kristen, I wouldn't go lower.

Angel75
08-20-2018, 03:58 PM
So because she’s pissed (according to you), she’s lying?

I’m sure after 20+ years of being by Lindsey’s side she’s aware of Stevie’s specter and she doesn’t care. What Stevie planned for her and Lindsey to happen when they were old and what actually did happen are two different things.

So, if we’re talking about someone in a rage, that would be Stevie, not KB.

I agree 100%

Angel75
08-20-2018, 04:00 PM
Right now, it's just a jab at the fact that Stevie was indeed disloyal to Lindsey, which even her defenders recognize; they just believe it was justifiable. If I were Kristen, I wouldn't go lower.

Exactly, we know enough now to know that Stevie was responsible, backed by Mick.....there is no need for KB to continue with her social media digs or she will start to look she's as petty as the rest of FM. Keep it classy and dignified so you stand above the band.

lovethemac1
08-20-2018, 05:42 PM
M&G = $100
Ticket = $200

That's a pretty inexpensive meet n greet, if you ask me.

jbrownsjr
08-20-2018, 06:00 PM
That's a pretty inexpensive meet n greet, if you ask me.

Sure is. I was shocked at the prices.

sodascouts
08-20-2018, 06:05 PM
Don Felder charged $400, and he is definitely not worth more than Lindsey. Of course, Felder did not sell very many. I think at the show I went to, he had all of three people buy a meet'n'greet. By contrast, Lindsey is selling out of VIP packages in some venues.

jbrownsjr
08-20-2018, 06:07 PM
Exactly, we know enough now to know that Stevie was responsible, backed by Mick.....there is no need for KB to continue with her social media digs or she will start to look she's as petty as the rest of FM. Keep it classy and dignified so you stand above the band.

I honestly have never seen so many $tevie defectors. I was reading some FB and instagram today and I'm shocked how many people worshiped the ground $he walked on. People that I never thought would turn on her are so vocal. I'm even like, "whoa whoa whoa" sometimes.

And then a few shippers I know are backing KB. What is going on in the world!! :laugh::laugh::laugh:

dreamsunwind
08-20-2018, 06:22 PM
Exactly, we know enough now to know that Stevie was responsible, backed by Mick.....there is no need for KB to continue with her social media digs or she will start to look she's as petty as the rest of FM. Keep it classy and dignified so you stand above the band.

IA. She's made what happened pretty clear so she can tone it down a bit now just so she doesn't look bad. Although I understand where she's coming from, I'd probably feel the same way too if it was my own family member.

gldstwmn
08-20-2018, 06:27 PM
Stevie's defenders are not as numerous as they used to be.

That said, I agree that it would be a bad idea to escalate this into an insult fest.

Right now, it's just a jab at the fact that Stevie was indeed disloyal to Lindsey, which even her defenders recognize; they just believe it was justifiable. If I were Kristen, I wouldn't go lower.

Lower than the basement? :laugh::laugh: Seriously though as far as tortured I think there's enough of that to go around. Remember in the Destiny Rules doc where Lindsey was holding Stevie's songs hostage and wouldn't let Chris Lord Alge mix them?
As far as defenders I wasn't talking about fans I was talking lawyers on the phone.
And as much ****e as people have talked about Mick he certainly has taken the high road, never once responding in kind to all of the nastiness directed at him.
I certainly don't begrudge Lindsey his ticket sales or meet and greet money. I do think that it's interesting that he has never done the meet and greet thing before and is only now doing it that his $10 million paycheck (or whatever it is) has vanished.

aleuzzi
08-20-2018, 06:36 PM
Lower than the basement? :laugh::laugh: Seriously though as far as tortured I think there's enough of that to go around. Remember in the Destiny Rules doc where Lindsey was holding Stevie's songs hostage and wouldn't let Chris Lord Alge mix them?
As far as defenders I wasn't talking about fans I was talking lawyers on the phone.
And as much ****e as people have talked about Mick he certainly has taken the high road, never once responding in kind to all of the nastiness directed at him.
I certainly don't begrudge Lindsey his ticket sales or meet and greet money. I do think that it's interesting that he has never done the meet and greet thing before and is only now doing it that his $10 million paycheck (or whatever it is) has vanished.

He did the meet and greet on his one man tour. I remember wanting to buy one but they were all sold out.

mitzo
08-20-2018, 06:37 PM
Exactly, we know enough now to know that Stevie was responsible, backed by Mick.....there is no need for KB to continue with her social media digs or she will start to look she's as petty as the rest of FM. Keep it classy and dignified so you stand above the band.
LOL but keep calling Mick a mother****er?

Angel75
08-20-2018, 07:02 PM
LOL but keep calling Mick a mother****er?

No she needs to stop that, once was enough

button-lip
08-20-2018, 07:09 PM
He did the meet and greet on his one man tour. I remember wanting to buy one but they were all sold out.

Exactly. He did many M&G along his solo career but when you're not a fan, it's "understandable" if you ignore the truth. :D;)

elle
08-20-2018, 08:49 PM
Exactly. He did many M&G along his solo career but when you're not a fan, it's "understandable" if you ignore the truth. :D;)

wow, people don't know LB did some fabulous meet and greets on his last solo tour? :rolleyes:

talking about m&gs, someone said they'd pay for m&gs with Kristen. she sounds so interesting and has been so fierce in defending her man.

her latest response to button-lip's tweet about SN basement? just wow!

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Upside Down 😂</p>&mdash; Kristen Buckingham (@KBChrush) <a href="https://twitter.com/KBChrush/status/1031244243296124933?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 19, 2018</a></blockquote>
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#queen #love #partners #family

bombaysaffires
08-20-2018, 08:58 PM
Lower than the basement? :laugh::laugh: Seriously though as far as tortured I think there's enough of that to go around. Remember in the Destiny Rules doc where Lindsey was holding Stevie's songs hostage and wouldn't let Chris Lord Alge mix them?
As far as defenders I wasn't talking about fans I was talking lawyers on the phone.
And as much ****e as people have talked about Mick he certainly has taken the high road, never once responding in kind to all of the nastiness directed at him.
I certainly don't begrudge Lindsey his ticket sales or meet and greet money. I do think that it's interesting that he has never done the meet and greet thing before and is only now doing it that his $10 million paycheck (or whatever it is) has vanished.

I do hope you're being facetious because otherwise you need to go back and watch the doc again. He didn't hold any of Stevie's songs hostage in the least. He was holding out signing a contract that Chris was demanding he sign committing to having Chris mix some of HIS songs, when Lindsey hadn't agreed at all to having Chris mix ANY of his songs. He couldn't stop Stevie from letting chris mix her stuff. Granted, he was openly condescending about Chris and his approach to mixing. If Stevie chose to not work with Chris in the end because Lindsey was being snooty about it, then shame on her. She should have told Lindsey to stuff it and have whoever she wanted mix her songs. that's the root of a lot of her unhappiness with SYW album-- she didn't like not only Lindsey's production but Mark's mixing. Well, grow a pair and stick with your choice. Don't save up your resentment and pull a fast one later.

jbrownsjr
08-20-2018, 08:59 PM
He did the meet and greet on his one man tour. I remember wanting to buy one but they were all sold out.

Definitely not the first M&G. :laugh:

sodascouts
08-20-2018, 09:09 PM
As far as defenders I wasn't talking about fans I was talking lawyers on the phone.


For what, libel? I doubt they'd want TMZ reporting that. The only way I could see her getting into trouble would be if Lindsey signed some kind of non-disclosure agreement and she was giving away too much, but even that's a stretch. Not that lawyers hesitate to go for the "stretch"!

gldstwmn
08-20-2018, 09:10 PM
Exactly. He did many M&G along his solo career but when you're not a fan, it's "understandable" if you ignore the truth. :D;)

Were you at his Soundstage in Chicago? I was. Did he sign Buckingham Nicks for you on stage? He did for me. Have you briefly met his wife in person? I have. I could go on but I think you get the picture.

gldstwmn
08-20-2018, 09:13 PM
wow, people don't know LB did some fabulous meet and greets on his last solo tour? :rolleyes:

talking about m&gs, someone said they'd pay for m&gs with Kristen. she sounds so interesting and has been so fierce in defending her man.

her latest response to button-lip's tweet about SN basement? just wow!

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Upside Down 😂</p>&mdash; Kristen Buckingham (@KBChrush) <a href="https://twitter.com/KBChrush/status/1031244243296124933?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 19, 2018</a></blockquote>
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#queen #love #partners #family

#Petty #Bitter #Notagoodlook :distress: This is going to come back to bite her in the a$$. Watch.

sands of time
08-20-2018, 09:16 PM
Were you at his Soundstage in Chicago? I was. Did he sign Buckingham Nicks for you on stage? He did for me. Have you briefly met his wife in person? I have. I could go on but I think you get the picture.

We've all had the picture for quite some time, and we all hope that you get help soon.

gldstwmn
08-20-2018, 09:17 PM
I do hope you're being facetious because otherwise you need to go back and watch the doc again. He didn't hold any of Stevie's songs hostage in the least. He was holding out signing a contract that Chris was demanding he sign committing to having Chris mix some of HIS songs, when Lindsey hadn't agreed at all to having Chris mix ANY of his songs. He couldn't stop Stevie from letting chris mix her stuff. Granted, he was openly condescending about Chris and his approach to mixing. If Stevie chose to not work with Chris in the end because Lindsey was being snooty about it, then shame on her. She should have told Lindsey to stuff it and have whoever she wanted mix her songs. that's the root of a lot of her unhappiness with SYW album-- she didn't like not only Lindsey's production but Mark's mixing. Well, grow a pair and stick with your choice. Don't save up your resentment and pull a fast one later.

Linsdey pointedly told Mick he owned the masters and would not give Chris Lord Alge the songs she wanted him to mix. Stevie's lawyers had to get involved. That lead to the off camera fight between them that was picked up by their microphones. Maybe you should go back and watch again. ;);)

gldstwmn
08-20-2018, 09:19 PM
We've all had the picture for quite some time, and we all hope that you get help soon.

And I'm quite certain you could give a flying f#ck what happens to me. :wavey:
I also want to wish you help with getting your d!ck out of your hand.

DownOnRodeo
08-20-2018, 09:24 PM
talking about m&gs, someone said they'd pay for m&gs with Kristen. she sounds so interesting and has been so fierce in defending her man.

I love that she's not being a shrinking violet in all this.
Maybe she will write a book one day--many people around Lindsey seem to!

jbrownsjr
08-20-2018, 09:28 PM
wow, people don't know LB did some fabulous meet and greets on his last solo tour? :rolleyes:

talking about m&gs, someone said they'd pay for m&gs with Kristen. she sounds so interesting and has been so fierce in defending her man.

her latest response to button-lip's tweet about SN basement? just wow!

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Upside Down 😂</p>&mdash; Kristen Buckingham (@KBChrush) <a href="https://twitter.com/KBChrush/status/1031244243296124933?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 19, 2018</a></blockquote>
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#queen #love #partners #family

I would pay to hear her!! :xoxo:

gldstwmn
08-20-2018, 09:43 PM
For what, libel? I doubt they'd want TMZ reporting that. The only way I could see her getting into trouble would be if Lindsey signed some kind of non-disclosure agreement and she was giving away too much, but even that's a stretch. Not that lawyers hesitate to go for the "stretch"!

Here's the thing. We don't know what happened. I don't care about what people have said that's "on the record." We all know that's not what really happened. I doubt there's a case for libel/slander within the Fleetwood Macs.

gldstwmn
08-20-2018, 09:44 PM
I love that she's not being a shrinking violet in all this.
Maybe she will write a book one day--many people around Lindsey seem to!

Maybe she beats him instead of the other way around? Elder abuse?

mitzo
08-20-2018, 09:46 PM
I would pay to hear her!! :xoxo:

Definitely! Would beat Real Housewives or Life after Lockup or Honey Boo Boo for sure. She is a real oracle.

gldstwmn
08-20-2018, 09:57 PM
Definitely! Would beat Real Housewives or Life after Lockup or Honey Boo Boo for sure. She is a real oracle.

Maybe she should be on The Real Housewives...

SteveMacD
08-20-2018, 10:12 PM
Maybe she should be on The Real Housewives...

The Real Housewives of Fleetwood Mac. Now, if it’s past and present wives, could Christine still be on it?

button-lip
08-20-2018, 10:22 PM
Were you at his Soundstage in Chicago? I was. Did he sign Buckingham Nicks for you on stage? He did for me. Have you briefly met his wife in person? I have. I could go on but I think you get the picture.

Wow, I'm so enthralled by your love for Lindsey I can hardly breath!

jbrownsjr
08-20-2018, 10:28 PM
Definitely! Would beat Real Housewives or Life after Lockup or Honey Boo Boo for sure. She is a real oracle.

Real Housewives with a character named Sister Honey. :laugh:

gldstwmn
08-20-2018, 10:46 PM
The Real Housewives of Fleetwood Mac. Now, if it’s past and present wives, could Christine still be on it?

Can we pitch this to Andy Cohen?

gldstwmn
08-20-2018, 10:47 PM
Wow, I'm so enthralled by your love for Lindsey I can hardly breath!

Me either Booty Lips. :woohoo:
Oops. Button Lip. Siri doesn't always get me.

worldturning
08-20-2018, 11:18 PM
wow, people don't know LB did some fabulous meet and greets on his last solo tour? :rolleyes:

talking about m&gs, someone said they'd pay for m&gs with Kristen. she sounds so interesting and has been so fierce in defending her man.

her latest response to button-lip's tweet about SN basement? just wow!

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Upside Down 😂</p>&mdash; Kristen Buckingham (@KBChrush) <a href="https://twitter.com/KBChrush/status/1031244243296124933?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 19, 2018</a></blockquote>
<script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

#queen #love #partners #family

Definitely wow! Funny with a zing of a dig :laugh:

button-lip
08-20-2018, 11:25 PM
Me either Booty Lips. :woohoo:
Oops. Button Lip. Siri doesn't always get me.

Don’t worry btchwmn. I feel for Siri, really. A younger master with a nice voice is all he wants....

dreamsunwind
08-20-2018, 11:34 PM
Maybe she beats him instead of the other way around? Elder abuse?

What a tasteless comment. I'll never understand how some people can so easily crack jokes about things like this :distress:

gldstwmn
08-21-2018, 12:29 AM
Don’t worry btchwmn. I feel for Siri, really. A younger master with a nice voice is all he wants....

Ha! :woohoo:

gldstwmn
08-21-2018, 12:30 AM
What a tasteless comment. I'll never understand how some people can so easily crack jokes about things like this :distress:

As tasteless as fighting your husband's battles for him on Instagram... :shrug:

gldstwmn
08-21-2018, 12:31 AM
Definitely wow! Funny with a zing of a dig :laugh:

9 whole posts since 2001 huh? :nod: :thumbsup:

bombaysaffires
08-21-2018, 12:32 AM
Linsdey pointedly told Mick he owned the masters and would not give Chris Lord Alge the songs she wanted him to mix. Stevie's lawyers had to get involved. That lead to the off camera fight between them that was picked up by their microphones. Maybe you should go back and watch again. ;);)

No, I think you need to watch it again. He was talking about his OWN songs. NOT Stevie's. He did not and does not own the masters to HER songs. Only his own. Lindsey would not sign a contract stipulating which of his songs Chris would mix because, as he says when you watch the doc, he hadn't even agreed Chris would mix ANY of his songs. They were testing Chris out in order to make a final choice, and Chris was acting like they were already hiring him and THAT was the fight they had on camera that led off-camera. Try again.

DownOnRodeo
08-21-2018, 12:40 AM
Drowning in the sea of La Mer

9 whole posts since 2001 huh? :nod: :thumbsup:

Better than replying to every single post with a brand new post! You're drowning in the sea of La Mer--we're drowning in a sea of posts!

dreamsunwind
08-21-2018, 02:25 AM
As tasteless as fighting your husband's battles for him on Instagram... :shrug:

No, making the petty comments online in defense of your spouse who you think was done wrong is nothing like cracking tone deaf, insensitive, unnecessary jokes about domestic abuse and elder abuse.

lovethemac1
08-21-2018, 07:53 AM
9 whole posts since 2001 huh? :nod: :thumbsup:

Has something sad happened to you recently, gldstwmn? Man, your posts lack any empathy or even a hint of civility.

Just plain mean.

jbrownsjr
08-21-2018, 08:01 AM
Has something sad happened to you recently, gldstwmn? Man, your posts lack any empathy or even a hint of civility.

Just plain mean.

This is new/recent? :laugh::wavey:

lovethemac1
08-21-2018, 08:37 AM
This is new/recent? :laugh::wavey:

Just more cutting and cruel than usual.

HomerMcvie
08-21-2018, 08:56 AM
This is new/recent? :laugh::wavey:

:lol::lol::lol:
Post of the day!!!!
:lol::lol::lol:

jmn3
08-21-2018, 10:10 AM
:lol::lol::lol:
Post of the day!!!!
:lol::lol::lol:

Agreed!!:lol:

jbrownsjr
08-21-2018, 10:13 AM
"Christine, we fired Lindsey while you were gone!!"

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v301/jbrownsjr/fired_2.jpg

HomerMcvie
08-21-2018, 10:22 AM
I remember the days where I would save every pic I'd never seen here, and label them carefully, so I'd be able to find them by name, later.

Those days have sadly passed.

worldturning
08-21-2018, 10:45 AM
9 whole posts since 2001 huh? :nod: :thumbsup:

I've been busy ;)

worldturning
08-21-2018, 10:54 AM
"Christine, we fired Lindsey while you were gone!!"

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v301/jbrownsjr/fired_2.jpg


Ouchhhhhh!;)

Feather Blade
08-21-2018, 11:13 AM
Just more cutting and cruel than usual.

Not sure it is any worse than "I'd like to punch Karen in her pie-hole." Seems like the outrage around here is fairly selective. :shrug:

jbrownsjr
08-21-2018, 11:19 AM
Not sure it is any worse than "I'd like to punch Karen in her pie-hole." Seems like the outrage around here is fairly selective. :shrug:

What is a pie-hole?

HomerMcvie
08-21-2018, 11:24 AM
What is a pie-hole?

I believe it's the orifice with which one eats pie?

sue
08-21-2018, 11:30 AM
What is a pie-hole?


It’s your savoury cake hole....
Similar to your clanging manhole.
(Not yours obviously)

jbrownsjr
08-21-2018, 11:30 AM
I believe it's the orifice with which one eats pie?

It sounds very dirty. :lol:

HomerMcvie
08-21-2018, 11:55 AM
It sounds very dirty. :lol:

Mmm, you said pie...:)

jbrownsjr
08-21-2018, 11:59 AM
Mmm, you said pie...:)

I'm more of a cakes man myself. My boyfriend was, too.

gldstwmn
08-21-2018, 12:02 PM
Has something sad happened to you recently, gldstwmn? Man, your posts lack any empathy or even a hint of civility.

Just plain mean.

Homer McVie is abusing me. :o :wavey:
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gldstwmn
08-21-2018, 12:04 PM
I've been busy ;)
Don't I know it. ;):wavey:

gldstwmn
08-21-2018, 12:05 PM
What is a pie-hole?

Booty lips?

jbrownsjr
08-21-2018, 12:32 PM
Booty lips?

Wouldn't that be a cake hole? I'm so confused. :laugh:

sleepless child
08-21-2018, 01:12 PM
So in the timeline, when did Stevie have Lindsey in the basement? LOL

jbrownsjr
08-21-2018, 01:34 PM
So in the timeline, when did Stevie have Lindsey in the basement? LOL

Referencing the meeting on Jan 28, 2018.

FuzzyPlum
08-21-2018, 02:09 PM
So in the timeline, when did Stevie have Lindsey in the basement? LOL


I thought Lindsey had Stevie in the basement...
...or is that going back a while?

FuzzyPlum
08-21-2018, 02:19 PM
Wouldn't that be a cake hole? I'm so confused. :laugh:

As far as I'm concerned cake hole and pie hole are the same thing...yer mouth.
...though for some people they may, seemingly have their own creative, personal meanings :eek:

jbrownsjr
08-21-2018, 02:40 PM
As far as I'm concerned cake hole and pie hole are the same thing...yer mouth.
...though for some people they may, seemingly have their own creative, personal meanings :eek:

I don't want to know...

stand back... LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA....

gldstwmn
08-21-2018, 05:24 PM
What a day for the USA.

KenshiMaster16
08-21-2018, 08:29 PM
Booty lips?


True story, I used to go to a cafe that served pies called The Pie Hole. Great place. Played FM music, too.

Lola
08-22-2018, 12:26 AM
True story, I used to go to a cafe that served pies called The Pie Hole. Great place. Played FM music, too.

There's biker bar near my house called the Liquor Hole:lol:

Murrow
08-22-2018, 06:17 PM
When I was a newly enthused Mac fan (round Tango time) I told my grandmother how I was into this singer called Stevie Nicks.

"How many k's is that spelt with?" quipped my grandmother.

Seems all the more appropriate given what's been revealed in KB's post.

jbrownsjr
08-22-2018, 11:14 PM
There's biker bar near my house called the Liquor Hole:lol:

I want to go there!! lol

TrueFaith77
08-23-2018, 10:00 AM
Pie Hole means "mouth"

jbrownsjr
08-23-2018, 10:01 AM
Pie Hole means "mouth"

God I hope so. :wavey:

HomerMcvie
08-23-2018, 10:21 AM
Pie Hole means "mouth"

Not in "American Pie".

Feather Blade
08-23-2018, 01:02 PM
Not in "American Pie".

Eeek!! Also, there was this one time in band ca-...never mind... ;)

jbrownsjr
08-23-2018, 04:55 PM
Eeek!! Also, there was this one time in band ca-...never mind... ;)

:laugh::laugh::lol:

jwd
08-24-2018, 05:36 PM
"Christine, we fired Lindsey while you were gone!!"

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v301/jbrownsjr/fired_2.jpg


Is this pic pre Lindsey gets screwed or post Lindsey gets screwed? I'd like to judge by that beautiful shoulder less top Stevie is wearing, has been wearing, for about ten years now, that it is pre Lindsey gets screwed. BUT........

jbrownsjr
08-24-2018, 06:29 PM
Is this pic pre Lindsey gets screwed or post Lindsey gets screwed? I'd like to judge by that beautiful shoulder less top Stevie is wearing, has been wearing, for about ten years now, that it is pre Lindsey gets screwed. BUT........

This was around 2014. pre...

jwd
08-24-2018, 06:33 PM
This was around 2014. pre...

Oh, okay, then I'm not so revolted about by it then. I was ready to unload on them if it was post. Just sayin', bitches shouldn't be so ****ing happy if it was.

bombaysaffires
08-24-2018, 07:23 PM
the two biggest culprits have their pie holes wide open.

HomerMcvie
08-25-2018, 12:15 AM
the two biggest culprits have their pie holes wide open.

If one looks closely enough(not that difficult), one can see the assh*le through the pie hole. Around the pie hole. Within the pie hole. Assh*les with pie holes... I rest my case.

jwd
08-26-2018, 09:58 PM
If one looks closely enough(not that difficult), one can see the assh*le through the pie hole. Around the pie hole. Within the pie hole. Assh*les with pie holes... I rest my case.

GUILTY AS CHARGED! :laugh:

HomerMcvie
08-26-2018, 10:55 PM
GUILTY AS CHARGED! :laugh:

Dick and $tevie truly are made from the same cloth(except Dick ain't NOTHIN' to look at). #fugly

jwd
08-26-2018, 11:06 PM
Dick and $tevie truly are made from the same cloth(except Dick ain't NOTHIN' to look at). #fugly

Is Mick single now? Maybe it is their destiny to ride off into the sunset together. Ah, the legacy of FM will have a happy ending after all. I'm at peace.

HomerMcvie
08-26-2018, 11:12 PM
Is Mick single now? Maybe it is their destiny to ride off into the sunset together. Ah, the legacy of FM will have a happy ending after all. I'm at peace.

Well god know $he's NEVER cared what her fugly a$$ed boyfriends looked like, so ye$, maybe it will be him and Old Goat Breath, riding off into the $un$et. #attentionwhoresofafeather

(and $he'll STILL be pi$$ed that Lindsey won the game of LIFE, over her).:D

jwd
08-26-2018, 11:18 PM
Well god know $he's NEVER cared what her fugly a$$ed boyfriends looked like, so ye$, maybe it will be him and Old Goat Breath, riding off into the $un$et. #attentionwhoresofafeather

(and $he'll STILL be pi$$ed that Lindsey won the game of LIFE, over her).:D

So true. I love when you put your &cent; &cent; in!