Hunger and Ride This Road thread.

[BLY]

I thought I would open up the thread on the two new songs from the “ best of collection”. I can’t wait to hear what Lindsey decided to select of his new songs to include in this collection.

[justcrazylove]

My thought process has been something along these lines,.... Are they completely new tracks that we haven't heard or are they just new titles, could they be Given Thing, or 'Steve's Riff'. Or maybe these are tracks with Mick and John on them that he wanted to get out before his new material next year, in a sort of 'cleanse' :shrug:

[Angel75]

My thought process has been something along these lines,.... Are they completely new tracks that we haven't heard or are they just new titles, could they be Given Thing, or 'Steve's Riff'. Or maybe these are tracks with Mick and John on them that he wanted to get out before his new material next year, in a sort of 'cleanse' :shrug:

I was hoping, but it would have no doubt been too much of a push to get it on the album in time and a bit ambitious perhaps.....but I wondered if these two tracks were an expression of his feelings about his firing. He loves to communicate through his lyrics but I guess by the titles this is not necessarily a reflection of earlier this year.
I assume they are just personal tracks he had previously written that maybe he didn't want to put on his future album :shrug::shrug:

[DownOnRodeo]

Lindsey seems to have a really slight figure these days, as if Kristen is keeping him on some sort of strict healthfood and fasting regime. So maybe 'Hunger' is about him actually just being hungry. :laugh:


'Given Thing' and 'Steve's Riff'--I hope he doesn't put those two GOS/FM tracks on his Best Of when he left out 'Wait For You'!

[Angel75]

Lindsey seems to have a really slight figure these days, as if Kristen is keeping him on some sort of strict healthfood and fasting regime. So maybe 'Hunger' is about him actually just being hungry.

Yeah it's those skinny, hollow legs right?!
He must be staaaaaarving ;);)

[Peestie]

Wasn't Hunger one of the titles someone found years ago that were registered along with a lot of other ones that became Buckingham McVie? I think Hunger will be a leftover from the Froom sessions that he wants to use up.

I don't remember Ride This Road being the same. It could be anything but I would be surprised to see a track recorded since his firing. I bet the track list for this album was settled ages ago.

[iamnotafraid]

Don't know about the songs but the single CD pre-order
is at number 16 on Amazon UK's top 100 chart.

[Fannymac]

I'm really curious to see if the new studio album will be released next year as it was intended to be released initially this year, or if some new material will be added?

[Iamwilliame]

I'm really curious to see if the new studio album will be released next year as it was intended to be released initially this year, or if some new material will be added?

My guess would be that he has been sitting on a few songs he hoped to record with Christine or even FM at some point. Since that option appears to be off the table for the foreseeable future, he may have decided to add some of those to the planned album. I think the compilation is the best release for him right now given the circumstances. It has a few radio hits most people will recognize which will make them more likely to explore his new album once it arrives. He also may want to start from scratch for his next LP and address the FM drama through his songs.

[WayOfTheDragon]

Wasn't Hunger one of the titles someone found years ago that were registered along with a lot of other ones that became Buckingham McVie? I think Hunger will be a leftover from the Froom sessions that he wants to use up.



Yes, I thought I remembered the title Hunger from the same batch of songs that included On With The Show and a few others.

[Peestie]

So Hunger is on Spotify etc. now. Thoughts?

I think it's good, if slightly lightweight. It reminds me of the soundtrack contributions from the 80s. It's also got elements of Miss Fantasy and Sad Angel. I'm guessing it was from the EP sessions or later BuckVie ones because it fits completely in that style. Sounds maybe like it was produced by Froom?

I'm hoping the new album (when it eventually arrives) abandons the style of EP and BuckVie, even if it is "poppy". But I am fairly confident that will be the case because Lindsey isn't one to stand still!

[BLY]

I can only hear a snipit on I tunes so it’s hard to say. It sounds like a left over from Seeds.

[DreamIsOver]

Sample? The song itself is basically a sample. It's a lean 2:22 and fades out just when it should be kicking in with a solo or a middle 8. I like it, just wish it had a little more to it.

[wilsonmac]

Sample? The song itself is basically a sample. It's a lean 2:22 and fades out just when it should be kicking in with a solo or a middle 8. I like it, just wish it had a little more to it.

Killer song. What's funny, is the lack of a solo is a cool trick; you wait for it and it doesn't happen. Very Buckingham. Leaves you wanting something more.

Living Legend

[DownOnRodeo]

Very catchy!
And the vocals aren't buried/reverbed to hell!

It's like he's come full circle from Law & Order (think "Trouble") and his later albums, bypassing the complex arrangements of OOTC and doling out simple, short, organic and catchy tunes.

He was criticized from the beginning for his songs being "too short", so nothing new there.

I was concerned about an untested track being included on the Anthology, but this is a winning inclusion in my book.

For those having difficulty accessing the song, here are the lyrics as I hear them:

Verse 1
I didn't notice
What I couldn't see
And what I couldn't see
I could never believe

Chorus
There was hunger, hunger
So much hunger, hunger
So much hunger, hunger
Makes me wonder

Verse 2
Beautiful sister
Told a few lies
When it came to taking names
It was all compromise

Chorus

Bridge
(Note--still only at the 1:00 minute mark here. It's a short song!)
Ooh that man he tried to stand
But he fell down to the ground
Layin' silent in the night
There was no sight or sound

Chorus x 2

Makes me wonder

Understated outro


Edit: Spotify info lists it as originally (c) 2015.

[lovethemac1]

Very catchy!
And the vocals aren't buried/reverbed to hell!

It's like he's come full circle from Law & Order (think "Trouble") and his later albums, bypassing the complex arrangements of OOTC and doling out simple, short, organic and catchy tunes.

He was criticized from the beginning for his songs being "too short", so nothing new there.

I was concerned about an untested track being included on the Anthology, but this is a winning inclusion in my book.

For those having difficulty accessing the song, here are the lyrics as I hear them:

Verse 1
I didn't notice
What I couldn't see
And what I couldn't see
I could never believe

Chorus
There was hunger, hunger
So much hunger, hunger
So much hunger, hunger
Makes me wonder

Verse 2
Beautiful sister
Told a few lies
When it came to taking names
It was all compromise

Chorus

Bridge
(Note--still only at the 1:00 minute mark here. It's a short song!)
Ooh that man he tried to stand
But he fell down to the ground
Layin' silent in the night
There was no sight or sound

Chorus x 2

Makes me wonder

Understated outro


Edit: Spotify info lists it as originally (c) 2015.

I wonder who these lyrics are about????? :eek:

[Street_Dreamer]

It amazes me how Lindsey is always able to find these amazing hooks/melodies. From Trouble to Gypsy to Little Lies to Sad Angel and many songs in between and now this song. Brilliant!

[ryan4136]

Good foot tapper and upbeat. To me sounds like it was written in the same mood as the "This is 40" songs, might be from that time period. Probably been sitting on this since the EP didn't turn into an album.

For those that haven't heard it's on youtube now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0AlukAOVWFA

[Hawkeye]

Anyone else hear a Show You How connection in the music? But much better then Show You How. In fact I’d say this is Lindsey’s best song since the 2008 gift of Screws album with the exception of One Take, Sad Angel, Rockaway Blind and maybe In my world.

This replacing Sleeping Around the Corner would’ve made the BuckVie album absolute perfection.

[BLY]

After hearing the entire track I don’t hear it as a “Seeds” leftover. I’d does remind me a bit of his “This is 40” contributions. Bring it on Lindsey wish we didn’t have to wait until 2019 for new studio album.😎

[jwd]

Good foot tapper and upbeat. To me sounds like it was written in the same mood as the "This is 40" songs, might be from that time period. Probably been sitting on this since the EP didn't turn into an album.

For those that haven't heard it's on youtube now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0AlukAOVWFA


Thanks, I hadn't heard it. I was waiting for that solo explosion, but it never quite came. :laugh: It has it's appeal, but doesn't blow me away.

[Street_Dreamer]

After hearing the entire track I don’t hear it as a “Seeds” leftover. I’d does remind me a bit of his “This is 40” contributions. Bring it on Lindsey wish we didn’t have to wait until 2019 for new studio album.😎

What?! I'm just now finding out about these songs from This Is 40. Could someone kindly hook me up? It doesn't look like Lindsey's contributions to the soundtrack are available to download anymore.

[DownOnRodeo]

What?! I'm just now finding out about these songs from This Is 40. Could someone kindly hook me up? It doesn't look like Lindsey's contributions to the soundtrack are available to download anymore.

Brother and Sister
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OT6FowIAhLg

She Acts Like You
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCuxoEMtki8

I was disappointed that She Acts Like You wasn't included on the Anthology.
These two songs and Hunger are killer tracks.

[michelej1]

What?! I'm just now finding out about these songs from This Is 40. Could someone kindly hook me up? It doesn't look like Lindsey's contributions to the soundtrack are available to download anymore.

Matt! You shock me.

[michelej1]

Wasn't Hunger one of the titles someone found years ago that were registered along with a lot of other ones that became Buckingham McVie? I think Hunger will be a leftover from the Froom sessions that he wants to use up.

I don't remember Ride This Road being the same. It could be anything but I would be surprised to see a track recorded since his firing. I bet the track list for this album was settled ages ago.

You think Hunger is that old? When I heard the “beautiful sister” line, I thought it was directed at Christine over recent events.

[ryan4136]

Don’t forget

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ajfCD9rzF8c

[Sugar Mouse]

"Hunger" sounds like a good fragment of a song that needed some work on the middle 8 and the coda.

[DownOnRodeo]

Don’t forget

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ajfCD9rzF8c

Thanks, I forgot Sick of You.

[Peestie]

You think Hunger is that old? When I heard the “beautiful sister” line, I thought it was directed at Christine over recent events.
Sonically, it reminds me of the stuff from that era. We'll know if in a few weeks when we see who it was produced by or if John and Mick are on it. Plus we have this thread showing it being registered the same time as some EP and BuckVie tracks:
ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/showpost.php?p=1082958&postcount=1

That's not to say he didn't go back and change/add lyrics, but I think this one has been in the can for 6 years and he just wants to get it out there.

[ryan4136]

If I recall correctly LB was thought to have around 20 songs in the hopper in that window of time. We know that 3 made the EP, 3 made This Is 40, 5 have made Buckvie, likely both on the Anthology too. That leaves 5+ from that era plus anything written since then. For the next solo album.

[elle]

If I recall correctly LB was thought to have around 20 songs in the hopper in that window of time. We know that 3 made the EP, 3 made This Is 40, 5 have made Buckvie, likely both on the Anthology too. That leaves 5+ from that era plus anything written since then. For the next solo album.

i don't think i ever heard it was that many. he may have, but that was not the number floated around. i do think this song is a leftover from 2012 sessions, so EP / BuckVie era, but i think he re-recorded vocals and put in new lyrics that can easily be interpreted as covering the firing situation:

1st verse - i didn't see it coming
2nd verse - beautiful sister lied, and band / management / promoters voted for a compromise
3rd verse - i tried to fight it but in the end had to give up

more/less.

[ryan4136]

i don't think i ever heard it was that many. he may have, but that was not the number floated around. i do think this song is a leftover from 2012 sessions, so EP / BuckVie era, but i think he re-recorded vocals and put in new lyrics that can easily be interpreted as covering the firing situation:

1st verse - i didn't see it coming
2nd verse - beautiful sister lied, and band / management / promoters voted for a compromise
3rd verse - i tried to fight it but in the end had to give up

more/less.

I agree I don’t think we have the 2012 rough here. We have a reworked 2018 version. Even if he had 20ish songs then, they may not have all been ready for the fair.

[bombaysaffires]

i don't think i ever heard it was that many. he may have, but that was not the number floated around. i do think this song is a leftover from 2012 sessions, so EP / BuckVie era, but i think he re-recorded vocals and put in new lyrics that can easily be interpreted as covering the firing situation:

1st verse - i didn't see it coming
2nd verse - beautiful sister lied, and band / management / promoters voted for a compromise
3rd verse - i tried to fight it but in the end had to give up

more/less.

hmmm.... I dunno.... the songs for the movie were about a dysfunctional relationship between a man and a woman, so the lyrics may be coincidental....but who know :shrug:

[elle]

hmmm.... I dunno.... the songs for the movie were about a dysfunctional relationship between a man and a woman, so the lyrics may be coincidental....but who know :shrug:

right right This is 40 songs like Brother and Sister which this very much hearkens back to, musically.

i've heard many different interpretations already, and it can be what i wrote above, or something completely unrelated. that's the beauty of it - rorschach, as LB would say.

[Street_Dreamer]

Matt! You shock me.

I know, I'm embarrassed. I feel like I've been living under a rock.

[ryan4136]

Also forgot to add “Poor Little Raven” to the songs from that era.

[secondhandchain]

Good song, wish it was longer!

[elle]

about which LB song this one reminds you off -

i finally listened to Hunger last night with good speakers, and it struck me: people were talking about the start sounding like Sad Angel, and the structure somewhat reminding them of This is 40 Brother and Sister, or some UTS songs like Show You How. but you know what? after listening to it, the way he pronounces / signs lyrics in verses and the beat underneath, i think -

this song is One Take lite!

[bombaysaffires]

hmmm.....not sure I hear that. I had to go back and listen to One Take as it is so not one of my faves. :sorry:

I think even more it comes from the outtakes/leftovers from This is 40. There's a song on that he did called "Brother and Sister" and it ties thematically to the line about "sister" in Hunger. And musically to me at least they all sound of a piece.

I really, really hope he does write some new material that addresses current events at some point.