Closing another chapter.......What will you most?i [Archive]

BLY

08-08-2018, 09:58 PM

So I have always loved all the chapters of Fleetwood Mac but my favorite being the fab 5.My all time second favorite band has always been Crowded House so you can only imagine what I’m going through..........

What I will miss from this chapter...

1. Recordings with Buckingham. He made these albums amazing...I will include SYW and BM...even though all 5 weren’t present.

2. Live ... when promoting new music and adding new tracks and ones never performed and making the live shows fresh.

3.The chance that a new album would be released by these 5.

4.That this would be the “last” chapter of this band and end this amazing “ “Dance” on a high note.

jbrownsjr

08-08-2018, 10:47 PM

I will miss Buckingham/McVie. They really make each other shine in such a profound circular organic process. Seriously, I really believe they were meant to write together. And their stage behavior with each other is a gem, too. They truly respected each other.

I will miss the pull of Buckingham to make FM better. Christine has always been solid. Her BTM material was great. Even her vocal on "In The Back of My Mind" puts the sunshine in that song.

But Nicks' material on BTM and No Questions asked. Ehhhhhh... Let's hope Mike can make her sound good. I'm the one person that really enjoys, When I See You Again. I think Lindsey knew what to do with her, even when she was floundering.

I actually like most of her SYW contributions, but again, she had LB.

I will miss the tension of the 5 as a whole that made the band interesting. Even when they were playing the same bull****.

I will miss the magic.

aleuzzi

08-08-2018, 11:58 PM

I will NOT miss the maddening frustration of these five almost recording a follow up to TITN on several occasions. In this sense, I’m glad the fab five are over. At least there’s no more reason to pull our hair out asking why these five people cannot get it together for one incredible last album.

However, I will miss that possibility. Even when all reason told me they would never make new music in the form of a full new album. I still held out hope that creativity would prevail. LB/CM came as close to fulfilling that dream as possible. And yes, it was a great alternative.

I will miss hoping they would stretch out a little and work harder to break their repetitive, predictable setlists. I will miss the ways in which LB and SN balanced one another—his intelligence and creative drive against her shallow narcissism; her warmth and easy allure to his occasionally cold and paranoid affect.

I will miss the hope of a second BuckVie album.

So...as you see...what I’m really missing is the potential of the Rumours five to do something substantial together. But even if LB stayed, there’s little likelihood new music and a more adventurous approach to touring would have resulted.

sasja

08-09-2018, 12:59 AM

Ethics and common human decency.

Once people start behaving thusly, that's it for me.

DownOnRodeo

08-09-2018, 01:55 AM

.That this would be the “last” chapter of this band and end this amazing “Dance” on a high note.

You made me realize that Lindsey's final three major albums with the band have titles related to dancing:

- Tango In The Night - 1987
- The Dance - 1997
- Say You Will (the whole chorus of the title song is about getting someone to dance) - 2003

Maybe it's a sign that they will all reunite one day on Dancing with the Stars...

Angel75

08-09-2018, 03:06 AM

Maybe it's a sign that they will all reunite one day on Dancing with the Stars...

That one definitely made me laugh out loud, thank you....laughter is good therapy for being a fan of this band

Shame that Lindsey HATES dancing

iamnotafraid

08-09-2018, 03:44 AM

Nothing at all.

This fake drama about a band that should have
called it quits after Say You Will is getting old
to me fast. I can hardly participate anymore.

As far as the 5 go, I'm only interested in what
Lindsey cares to put out musically.

Free, free at last...

Storms123

08-09-2018, 04:55 AM

I will miss the chemistry they all have---you can't fake that. I will miss their live shows, truly incredible. I will miss the chemistry they have with the fans. I will miss the generations of people that know, appreciate, and show up to their shows to hear the music these 5 created, sung by the 5 that created it. I will miss what could have been. There's still a lot of "life" in most of them.
I will miss Fleetwood Mac

HomerMcvie

08-09-2018, 08:31 AM

BigAl84

08-09-2018, 08:32 AM

I will miss being a fan of one of the VERY FEW bands from the 70's or even the 80's that still had all of their original members in one equation or another. I came aboard in '97 and there was no comparison when hearing the Billy Burnette era material. Even as a young kid at the time, I could tell the difference. Nothing agains Vito and Burnette, but trying to play Buckingham's guitar parts just didn't work, it's just not the same sound or tone that made '75 era Fleetwood Mac what it was.

There was something special about their ability to come together and still play despite all the odds that were against them. All of the Stevie and Lindsey shipping aside, I still think there was always a sense of the music and respect for one another prevailing above all else.

Perhaps it's due to becoming a fan during the "reunion" themed time (1997) but the magic of that reunion stayed lit well, well after that tour had come and gone. I'm going all out Anthony Bourdain here...but folks who became fans due to The Dance, I think their fandom came with an additional framework that I can't quite come to describe. Perhaps it's because many of us heard the 97 material and worked our way backwards through the material and history. There was a 4 year stretch between the end of the dance tour and that first gig together minus Christine in 2001. A lot of folks thought they were done, that was it. It made the years working up to the release of Say You Will super exciting because it was a gift nobody thought would happen again.

I guess that's what I'll miss - somehow the band that tried to keep it together since 1997 and the thought that the dark days were long behind them.

Villavic

08-09-2018, 11:43 AM

I will miss being a fan of one of the VERY FEW bands from the 70's or even the 80's that still had all of their original members in one equation or another.

Good point.

JohnL

08-10-2018, 09:19 AM

HomerMcvie

08-10-2018, 09:48 AM

I will miss being able to come to this board and have a good friendly conversation about the music and the members. I miss the days when insults were not the norm and people could express their favor for one band member over the other without having to resort to personal attacks.

Other than that, I am good with Fleetwood Mac in their current flavor. I look forward to having some new blood in the band and some new harmonies.

Perhaps if you weren't so defensive and hyper sensitive, concerning all i$$ue$ with $tevie, you wouldn't have any issues yourself? Just a thought...

You've stated MANY times that you were leaving, and never coming back, but you're still here.

Have a nice day.:woohoo:

DownOnRodeo

08-10-2018, 12:20 PM

That Lindsey OWNS the show. Casual fans think it's all Old Goat Breath, but they leave the live show completely wowed by Lindsey. His energy and musical style(the one that DEFINES the FM sound) is unparalleled, and will be sorely missed.

I went in to my four FM concerts (on the Say You Will tour) as a Lindsey fan mainly (but also a fan of the band as a whole, although more Christine than Stevie), but I remember being very impressed with what I did see and hear of Stevie--ie I was expecting subpar vocals but that wasn't what she delivered. What she did with the vocals on the last, quiet part of Silver Springs at at least one of the concerts has particularly stuck with me even 14 years on.

So I think there might also be some sort of expectation bias at play--many people might go to a concert barely even knowing who Lindsey is let alone expecting him to have as terrific a stage aura as the likes of Stevie or Mick.

BigAl84

08-10-2018, 03:02 PM

I'll miss all those mini adventures to see them in concert and sitting in anticipation to see 5 individuals who really, against all odds are still together making music. I'll miss thinking through all of the years they have helped me through all the ups and downs in life and looking forward to what may be around the corner for them.

Of all the shows I've been to, I think opening night in Columbus 2013 stands out. Perhaps the most relaxed I've seen Lindsey and Stevie to date and I like to remember their dynamic the way they were that night. Stevie left her sunglasses on for The Chain & Dreams. Sad Angel and Without You were played for the first time live. I was less than ten feet from them most of the show. I was so excited for what I thought may be coming in the near future. I'll miss that excitement and love I had for that group of people, in that configuration.

I wrote this on my phone a few years back while waiting for them to come out in Cleveland, February 2015. The last time I actually saw all 5.

"Im really lucky to have the chance to see this band from every angle over the past 15 years and thats a lot of great memories and dreams to have come true. Every time i see them i'm reminded of that 14 year old kid in his room who just wanted to play guitar like Lindsey Buckingham. For some Kids it was jimmy Page or hendrix...for me it was that travis fingerpicking style on a rick turner model 1 guitar. okay...yes rumours has become overplayed 70s Pop...but Tusk was some sort of tribal-punk-pop cocktail of an album that i didnt appreciate until my 20s. Mirage taught me the true meaning of less is more and the power of being understated. What it really means to hone your craft and master it. from that fuzz on the ledge...the solo in gypsy...or those signature lines on the chain...or those beautiful guitar arpeggioss on Sara..that never gets old. that 14 year year old kid remains."

jwd

08-10-2018, 05:56 PM

I'll miss the collaborative efforts of Chris and Lindsey, backed by the awesome rhythm section of Mick and John. I'll miss a Tango II or a BuckVie II. And the three part harmonies of Chris, Lindsey, and Stevie.

THIS

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AND THIS

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jwd

08-10-2018, 06:56 PM

AND I'LL MISS THIS

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DEDICATED TO MY FELLOW LEDGIE mitzo :wavey:

jwd

08-10-2018, 07:06 PM

AND DEFINITELY THIS

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jwd

08-10-2018, 07:19 PM

mitzo

08-12-2018, 10:43 AM

BigAl84

08-12-2018, 08:57 PM

LOL ...I'm sick of pretending it's 1987, thinking this new lineup is going to mean aaaannnyyything in 5 years.:shocked:

button-lip

08-12-2018, 10:57 PM

LOL ...I'm sick of pretending it's 1987, thinking this new lineup is going to mean aaaannnyyything in 5 years.:shocked:

It won't, no matter how much some wanted it will. The fact that casual fans think Lindsey's still in the band proves it.

Lindsey was the only one that wanted to record new material, so creativity at this point is practically out of the question. Do you think Neil and Mike will share what they have with the rest of the band? They came to fill a gap, and they know they're not part of the band. If they were, promotional pictures will be something more significant than two penguins gossiping. :D

jbrownsjr

08-13-2018, 07:21 AM

It won't, no matter how much some wanted it will. The fact that casual fans think Lindsey's still in the band proves it.

Lindsey was the only one that wanted to record new material, so creativity at this point is practically out of the question. Do you think Neil and Mike will share what they have with the rest of the band? They came to fill a gap, and they know they're not part of the band. If they were, promotional pictures will be something more significant than two penguins gossiping. :D

Christine did want to keep creative, too.

Agree with the penguins. That's so deceptive.

jwd

08-14-2018, 05:32 PM

I will not miss anything, really, to me it was over years ago when it became obvious there would be no new recording and only endless oldies tours. I am more optimistic now than I have been since SYW. Sick of pretending it is still 1982 and happy we may get something new from this new lineup.

Yeah, I guess somebody in the band had to get booted from the band for the dynamics to change. But you can't blame Lindsey for the scenario you're complaining about. That's what a lot of us are so ****ing mad about!

JohnL

08-16-2018, 06:26 AM

Perhaps if you weren't so defensive and hyper sensitive, concerning all i$$ue$ with $tevie, you wouldn't have any issues yourself? Just a thought...

You've stated MANY times that you were leaving, and never coming back, but you're still here.

Have a nice day.:woohoo:

God you are a piece of work. I am hyper sensitive yeah right. Why dont you just ignore my posts like I do most of yours anymore. I think we would both be a lot happier. I am tired of your constant bullying here. Go away!!

I put you on my Ignore list long ago. The only time I see your posts are when someone responds to them. And the only time I respond to that is when you are being nasty (which I realize is about 99% of the time though I guess). Take a long walk on a short pier. I am not interested in your opinions either. You are not a nice person and I do not wish to associate with you.

jbrownsjr

08-16-2018, 08:14 AM

SteveMacD

08-16-2018, 11:07 AM

Here’s the only promo pic of the new crew I’m familiar with.

13108

David

08-16-2018, 05:02 PM

Here’s the only promo pic of the new crew I’m familiar with.

13108 I love Stevie's Pasquale di Fabrizio boots! :thumbsup:

If the boots are back, Fleetwood Mac has a fighting chance.

secondhandchain

08-16-2018, 05:25 PM

God you are a piece of work. I am hyper sensitive yeah right. Why dont you just ignore my posts like I do most of yours anymore. I think we would both be a lot happier. I am tired of your constant bullying here. Go away!!

I put you on my Ignore list long ago. The only time I see your posts are when someone responds to them. And the only time I respond to that is when you are being nasty (which I realize is about 99% of the time though I guess). Take a long walk on a short pier. I am not interested in your opinions either. You are not a nice person and I do not wish to associate with you.

David is HARMLESS and most times is just trying to be funny. He never offends me. Ever.

HomerMcvie

08-16-2018, 05:28 PM

David is HARMLESS and most times is just trying to be funny. He never offends me. Ever.

Now I owe you multiple cocktails! :xoxo::xoxo::xoxo:

JohnL

08-17-2018, 07:10 AM

David is HARMLESS and most times is just trying to be funny. He never offends me. Ever.

Well then consider yourself lucky because that is NOT the case with anyone who has anything positive to say or think about Stevie Nicks. Anyone who reads these posts cannot deny it and, if they do, they are not being honest. Too bad I am not going anywhere.

BigAl84

08-17-2018, 09:39 AM

JohnL

08-17-2018, 10:01 AM

Ok this is the most amusing thing I've read on these forums in a decade.

David!? you're getting your knickers in a twist because of David? Seriously, one of the nicest, sarcastic, intelligent folks on this forum who has been around for 15 years, probably more.

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Well then keep him all for yourself. There are LOTS of us who feel this way. Unfortunately he and others like him have chased a lot of us away because they are sick of fighting. He obviously thrives on it. Quite an admirable character trait. Oh and by the way, I think I have been here longer. I know I joined in the mid 90s...not that it matters.

The Chain

08-17-2018, 10:09 AM

Well then consider yourself lucky because that is NOT the case with anyone who has anything positive to say or think about Stevie Nicks. Anyone who reads these posts cannot deny it and, if they do, they are not being honest. Too bad I am not going anywhere.

..or maybe most people just don't take it as personally if somebody else has a negative opinion about a celebrity you like? This isn't family we're talking about here, it's a pampered diva most of us have never, will never meet.:shrug:

HomerMcvie

08-17-2018, 10:26 AM

..or maybe most people just don't take it as personally if somebody else has a negative opinion about a celebrity you like? This isn't family we're talking about here, it's a pampered diva most of us have never, will never meet.:shrug:

Never have I felt so popular...

I don't like $tevie, and they can't take it. I make fun of her, and they can't take it. The two or three of them think they're going to gang up, and run me out of town. I applaud their efforts, while:lol::lol::lol:

Have a nice day. :woohoo:

sue

08-17-2018, 10:35 AM

When I first joined at the end of 2012, I think comments were a bit tamer, than now.
But I find no-one and no comment so offensive I would want to leave.

90% of the stuff posted is really interesting and worth reading.
Some is funny, comical even. Some is downright belly laugh stuff.

And about 2% is sometimes a bit...oooo ouch !!! a bit near the edge.
I can live with that.
It’s life, you know, roll with it, life’s too short..

David

08-17-2018, 11:40 AM

David!? you're getting your knickers in a twist because of David? Seriously, one of the nicest, sarcastic, intelligent folks on this forum who has been around for 15 years, probably more.
Why, thank you, Al! :xoxo:

HomerMcvie

08-17-2018, 11:51 AM

Why, thank you, Al! :xoxo:

Thunder thief.:mad:

Nathan

08-17-2018, 11:55 AM

Well then keep him all for yourself. There are LOTS of us who feel this way. Unfortunately he and others like him have chased a lot of us away because they are sick of fighting. He obviously thrives on it. Quite an admirable character trait. Oh and by the way, I think I have been here longer. I know I joined in the mid 90s...not that it matters.

I think the person you’re talking about fits the definition of a troll. I keep the ignore feature on.

DownOnRodeo

08-17-2018, 12:07 PM

Just to be clear (for those who have signatures set to not display when logged in, or who have blocked people and thus don't see their signatures), there are (at least) two 'Davids' actively posting on the Ledge; one with the username 'David' and the other with the username 'HomerMcVie'.

secondhandchain

08-17-2018, 12:36 PM

For those of you complaining about the fighting..... Fleetwood Mac FIRED Lindsey F@@king Buckingham. LINSEY BUCKINGHAM. This is a HUGE deal. So deal with it.

BigAl84

08-17-2018, 12:43 PM

Well then keep him all for yourself. There are LOTS of us who feel this way. Unfortunately he and others like him have chased a lot of us away because they are sick of fighting. He obviously thrives on it. Quite an admirable character trait. Oh and by the way, I think I have been here longer. I know I joined in the mid 90s...not that it matters.

and here you are stirring the pot every chance you get with folks who dare have an opinion other than yours LMAO ....and taking it as a personal attack if people dont have glowing things to say about specific band members. Are you seriously referring to David? (not homemcvie)

BigAl84

08-17-2018, 12:56 PM

for the record, I was referring to the David with the actual screename of david, not homermcvie.

BigAl84

08-17-2018, 12:58 PM

Why, thank you, Al! :xoxo:

youre welcome. who knew one day Id be declaired one of the "stevie haters" and youre a troll. thats some serious funny sh*t...

sodascouts

08-17-2018, 04:03 PM

I hesitate to speak for anyone, but surely JohnL is referring to Homer McVie. Not to sound harsh, but Homer McVie's posts typically feature characterizations of Stevie as a barnyard animal. The original David's posts may critique Stevie at times, but you won't find that kind of thing there. The tone is entirely different.

That said, let's talk about the band, not each other, shall we?

mitzo

08-17-2018, 04:31 PM

For those of you complaining about the fighting..... Fleetwood Mac FIRED Lindsey F@@king Buckingham. LINSEY BUCKINGHAM. This is a HUGE deal. So deal with it.

Sure. Or alternatively, you could deal with the fact he is gone and that things are moving on. Bitterness is tacky.

secondhandchain

08-17-2018, 05:16 PM

Sure. Or alternatively, you could deal with the fact he is gone and that things are moving on. Bitterness is tacky.

WHY? When LB is probably 60 percent of why I came to love FM? No not going to happen. I'm here now just waiting for this gross tour to fail. Do you really think I care if others think how I'm feeling is "tacky"?

jbrownsjr

08-17-2018, 05:19 PM

sue

08-17-2018, 05:52 PM

You had me cracking up with this. :xoxo:

Oh you’re funny....almost spat my red wine out, whilst watching “Night of the Demon”......haha

jwd

08-17-2018, 06:02 PM

I've actually seen a new promo pic pop up with the ACTUAL band. It's not bad. The photo features mainly Christine and Neil. Again, they are all looking in different directions, which is kind of strange and a bit funny.

I'm anxiously awaiting for you to share this with us. The only photo I've seen of the new band is all of them featured equally. They are looking in different directions in that shot too.

singertobe

08-17-2018, 10:05 PM

I'll miss the Stevie/Lindsey chemistry shared onstage. The loving glances, the chatter. The more I think about those times the more I say "WTF Stevie?!"

gldstwmn

08-18-2018, 01:10 PM

David is HARMLESS and most times is just trying to be funny. He never offends me. Ever.

That's what they said about Hitler.

HomerMcvie

08-18-2018, 01:13 PM

That's what they said about Hitler.

Gee, thanks for the personal attack. :mad:

gldstwmn

08-18-2018, 01:16 PM

WHY? I'm here now just waiting for this gross tour to fail.

You're going to be waiting a long time.

gldstwmn

08-18-2018, 01:19 PM

Gee, thanks for the personal attack. :mad:

It was a joke. You know what that is right? You're always making them about Stevie and Mick and anybody else who gets in your way. Now I'll wait for your friends who are never offended by anything to start screaming about how offensive this is.

DownOnRodeo

08-18-2018, 01:36 PM

David is HARMLESS and most times is just trying to be funny.

That's what they said about Hitler.

People in the 30s said Hitler was "just trying to be funny"? I guess they confused him with one of those standup comics that angrily rants about everything. :laugh:

"So, what's the deal with that Versailles Treaty, ja?"

(I know you were referring to "harmless"--just having some fun. :))

gldstwmn

08-18-2018, 01:44 PM

People in the 30s said Hitler was "just trying to be funny"? I guess they confused him with one of those standup comics that angrily rants about everything. :laugh:

"So, what's the deal with that Versailles Treaty, ja?"

(I know you were referring to "harmless"--just having some fun. :))
His first vocation was as an artist so...:shrug: :p

HomerMcvie

08-18-2018, 04:42 PM

It was a joke. You know what that is right? You're always making them about Stevie and Mick and anybody else who gets in your way. Now I'll wait for your friends who are never offended by anything to start screaming about how offensive this is.

You DO understand that $tevie and Dick are fair game, and members AREN'T? Don't you? I mean, you USED to be a mod here....

jbrownsjr

08-18-2018, 08:37 PM

You DO understand that $tevie and Dick are fair game, and members AREN'T? Don't you? I mean, you USED to be a mod here....

$tevie has a dick?

button-lip

08-18-2018, 08:46 PM

$tevie has a dick?

Thanks to KB we also learnt today that she has a basement... :lol::lol:

SteveMacD

08-18-2018, 08:46 PM

$tevie has a dick?

She’s had a lot of them…

button-lip

08-18-2018, 08:50 PM

It was a joke. You know what that is right? You're always making them about Stevie and Mick and anybody else who gets in your way. Now I'll wait for your friends who are never offended by anything to start screaming about how offensive this is.

Maybe it's not so much that we are never offended by anything but more like you are always offended by EVERYTHING.

button-lip

08-18-2018, 08:52 PM

She’s had a lot of them…

Still has, but unfortunately not the one she wants the most....

SteveMacD

08-18-2018, 09:13 PM

Still has, but unfortunately not the one she wants the most....

Yeah, Joe Walsh has moved on.

gldstwmn

08-18-2018, 09:16 PM

Maybe it's not so much that we are never offended by anything but more like you are always offended by EVERYTHING.

Nope. :cool:

gldstwmn

08-18-2018, 09:17 PM

Yeah, Joe Walsh has moved on.

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

jbrownsjr

08-18-2018, 09:43 PM

She’s had a lot of them…

Best post ever!!! I fell off my chair!!! :xoxo:

button-lip

08-18-2018, 10:02 PM

Yeah, Joe Walsh has moved on.

And all the other “loves of her life”.

What, you thought I was talking about Lindsey? She always hated him, and that includes every part of his body.

SteveMacD

08-18-2018, 10:14 PM

And all the other “loves of her life”.

What, you thought I was talking about Lindsey? She always hated him, and that includes every part of his body.

Actually, I thought you were talking about Mick.

button-lip

08-18-2018, 10:40 PM

Actually, I thought you were talking about Mick.

No, you clearly stated you thought I was talking about Joe Walsh, hence your answer, so don't change the dick now just because you want to win the game.

She has Mick's 24/7. That's why they're always together. So, no need to wish what you clearly have.

SteveMacD

08-18-2018, 10:45 PM

No, you clearly stated you thought I was talking about Joe Walsh, hence your answer, so don't change the dick now just because you want to win the game.

She has Mick's 24/7. That's why they're always together. So, no need to wish what you clearly have.

Quit over complicating dick jokes!!!!

FFS, do you have to troll EVERYTHING?!?!?

button-lip

08-18-2018, 10:52 PM

Quit over complicating dick jokes!!!!

FFS, do you have to troll EVERYTHING?!?!?

No, I'm actually ANSWERING your posts. But hey, if it's too much for you....

SteveMacD

08-18-2018, 11:12 PM

No, I'm actually ANSWERING your posts. But hey, if it's too much for you....

You were answering something that wasn’t asked.

It was a rock solid dick joke. It started from nothing, grew into something a bit bigger, worked it’s way up into a decent punchline, but then you had to put the comedic equivalent to Spyro Gyra on to give it the cold shower. Just like a humor-crippling, life-sucking troll.

button-lip

08-18-2018, 11:23 PM

You were answering something that wasn’t asked.

It was a rock solid dick joke. It started from nothing, grew into something a bit bigger, worked it’s way up into a decent punchline, but then you had to put the comedic equivalent to Spyro Gyra on to give it the cold shower. Just like a humor-crippling, life-sucking troll.

I wasn’t answering anything, just adding something to your post, that you clearly didn’t like. No need to call me a troll over and over again.

Have a nice life.

SteveMacD

08-18-2018, 11:47 PM

No, I'm actually ANSWERING your posts.

I wasn’t answering anything

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button-lip

08-18-2018, 11:57 PM

https://www.annielytics.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/bang-head-here.jpg

I was answering your posts. But I wasn’t answering any question. That’s what I meant.

I hope it didn’t hurt. The head, I mean. Oh, wait....

Angel75

08-19-2018, 02:25 AM

And all the other “loves of her life”.

What, you thought I was talking about Lindsey? She always hated him, and that includes every part of his body.

I'm once again confused because you seem to continually contradict yourself, firstly you basically say she never loved Lindsey to which a few of us disagreed and said that it was pretty obvious in the early 70s she did........then after that you write
"I don't think she's pretending to still be in love with him. I think she still is. She has a hate-love relationship with him like never seen before"

Now she's always hated him?
I can't keep up ......is it love, hate or love and hate equally?!!!

AncientQueen

08-19-2018, 02:29 AM

I can't keep up ......is it love, hate or love and hate equally?!!!I'm pretty sure Stevie herself never knew. One thing is for sure, it is FINALLY over now.

button-lip

08-19-2018, 07:04 AM

I'm once again confused because you seem to continually contradict yourself, firstly you basically say she never loved Lindsey to which a few of us disagreed and said that it was pretty obvious in the early 70s she did........then after that you write
"I don't think she's pretending to still be in love with him. I think she still is. She has a hate-love relationship with him like never seen before"

Now she's always hated him?
I can't keep up ......is it love, hate or love and hate equally?!!!

I can’t believe you took the time to search for a post that was written probably a month ago only to satisfy your shipper heart. Please, get over it.

JohnL

08-19-2018, 09:44 AM

I can’t believe you took the time to search for a post that was written probably a month ago only to satisfy your shipper heart. Please, get over it.

So you try to disguise your obvious self contradiction by implying that someone else has an issue. I am sure Angel75 realizes that you, once again, try to insult someone hidden in fake courtesy. Have a great day and keep a smile on your beautiful face! :wavey::wavey:

elle

08-19-2018, 09:57 AM

button-lip

08-19-2018, 10:10 AM

So you try to disguise your obvious self contradiction by implying that someone else has an issue. I am sure Angel75 realizes that you, once again, try to insult someone hidden in fake courtesy. Have a great day and keep a smile on your beautiful face! :wavey::wavey:

Ah, another shipper! SnL is dead. Face it! My point was: who cares?! I didn’t think I need to explain it, but well....

Funny how you’re trolling but nobody seems to notice. I think we never ever spoke to each other.

I’m always smiling. :)

HomerMcvie

08-19-2018, 10:19 AM

Ah, another shipper! SnL is dead. Face it! My point was: who cares?! I didn’t think I need to explain it, but well....

Funny how you’re trolling but nobody seems to notice. I think we never ever spoke to each other.

I’m always smiling. :)

You're one of my VERY favorite people here, and I can't wait until we get to meet up at a Lindsey show!:xoxo:

button-lip

08-19-2018, 10:59 AM

You're one of my VERY favorite people here, and I can't wait until we get to meet up at a Lindsey show!:xoxo:

:xoxo::xoxo::D

Angel75

08-19-2018, 01:29 PM

I can’t believe you took the time to search for a post that was written probably a month ago only to satisfy your shipper heart. Please, get over it.

Seriously, my shipper heart? I am pretty sure there isn't one single post where I have indicated I want SnL to runaway into the sunset together, WTF?!

My point is that I can't work out what side of the fence you are on because you change your opinion every other week. My views have always remained the same. Just keep it consistent and then it's easier for others to interrupt, either you think Stevie's in love with Lindsey still or she hates him, which one is it?

Angel75

08-19-2018, 01:35 PM

people!

wasn't that dick joke already long dead in someone's basement after being held captive and tortured for many moons? :eek:

and i hear people wonder why i don't come here anymore. :rolleyes::lol:

beating the dead horse, engaging in highly personal attacks, calling other board members nasty, losers, dumping on whole countries wherever board member you disagree is from, the list goes on. while not adding or discussing any new info, just going in old circles over and over. what could be so disengaging and unattractive on this board, i wonder?? especially when there are actually fantastic new news ongoing at the other boards! :blob1::blob1:

Agreed, it's getting crazier here by the minute. I'm certainly guilty of retaliating to comments I think are untrue, nasty or uncalled for when that is probably only poking the bear further....it's difficult to just ignore those times and not post something in disgust...but true, probably best to focus on the very positiveness of Lindsey's new tour and album, right?!

sodascouts

08-19-2018, 01:50 PM

jbrownsjr

08-19-2018, 02:51 PM

SnL have been love / hate but the pendulum seems to be stuck at the far edge of the "hate" side now. Stevie jammed it there tight. So sad! I just hope it can be pried loose before one of them dies, God forbid, because this would be a tragic way for them to end.

I respectfully disagree. I don't see any pendulum. They are competitors; two people that have almost zero in common when it comes to what they want from art. One wants "to be happy" and ride out pretending that she's some kind of important diva, and the other wants to continue to use his gifts and create and play new music. And it's been moving in that direction for a very long time.

They dated in the 70s, broke up and maybe had some break up sex along the way. But the truth of the matter is, people keep calling this part of some love/hate back and forth. I call bs on that.

And from a human level, (let's assume that $tevie did what most of us know $he did) that's really really the lowest thing you can do. Knowingly put into action the him or me. Having full knowledge of the consequences in that $he would end someone's legacy and career in the band. Just Wow. I mean really think about that. The fans, the crew, the people involved, etc. It's a lot.

Anyone would have a hard time convincing me that there's any sort of love there. And if they do, I say it's very disgusting and a sick love. (meaning not love) $he's hit a very low point in her life and doesn't realize it. $he will at some point.

I can't imagine the guilt I would feel from ending an institution. Unless of course, I had no $oul.

Angel75

08-19-2018, 04:29 PM

I respectfully disagree. I don't see any pendulum. They are competitors; two people that have almost zero in common when it comes to what they want from art. One wants "to be happy" and ride out pretending that she's some kind of important diva, and the other wants to continue to use his gifts and create and play new music. And it's been moving in that direction for a very long time.

They dated in the 70s, broke up and maybe had some break up sex along the way. But the truth of the matter is, people keep calling this part of some love/hate back and forth. I call bs on that.

And from a human level, (let's assume that $tevie did what most of us know $he did) that's really really the lowest thing you can do. Knowingly put into action the him or me. Having full knowledge of the consequences in that $he would end someone's legacy and career in the band. Just Wow. I mean really think about that. The fans, the crew, the people involved, etc. It's a lot.

Anyone would have a hard time convincing me that there's any sort of love there. And if they do, I say it's very disgusting and a sick love. (meaning not love) $he's hit a very low point in her life and doesn't realize it. $he will at some point.

I can't imagine the guilt I would feel from ending an institution. Unless of course, I had no $oul.

I both agree and disagree with you. I think it has been a definite pendulum for them for years but agree with you now, it is like you said WOW...having the knowledge and MOTIVATION to wilfully end someone's legacy is quite mind blowing really.

button-lip

08-19-2018, 04:30 PM

Seriously, my shipper heart? I am pretty sure there isn't one single post where I have indicated I want SnL to runaway into the sunset together, WTF?!

My point is that I can't work out what side of the fence you are on because you change your opinion every other week. My views have always remained the same. Just keep it consistent and then it's easier for others to interrupt, either you think Stevie's in love with Lindsey still or she hates him, which one is it?

Or you can not interrupt at all. That’s easier yet. I mean, I don’t interrupt on subjects I’m not interested in.

I’m think I’m gonna choose the “I don’t care what’s the current status of Lindsey and Stevie’s relationship” option. But I think I already said I don’t care.

jbrownsjr

08-19-2018, 04:31 PM

I both agree and disagree with you. I think it has been a definite pendulum for them years but agree with you now, it is like you said WOW...having the knowledge and MOTIVATION to wilfully end someone's legacy is quite mind blowing really.

I can respect that. Personally for me, I just think it was a fantasy for some people to have them together. And both of them knew it and played it like a fiddle.

Or is it a drum? lol.. I can't remember.

Angel75

08-19-2018, 04:36 PM

Or you can not interrupt at all. That’s easier yet. I mean, I don’t interrupt on subjects I’m not interested in.

Interrupt? Sorry, how was I interrupting?
Is it policy here now to have to put your hand up and ask to be allowed to comment when it's your turn rather than just comment when you wish to?

button-lip

08-19-2018, 04:51 PM

Just keep it consistent and then it's easier for others to interrupt, either you think Stevie's in love with Lindsey still or she hates him, which one is it?

Yeah, well....

Do whatever you want. I don't care. Just like SnL.

Angel75

08-19-2018, 04:57 PM

Yeah, well....

Do whatever you want. I don't care. Just like SnL.

Oh gosh, thats very embarrassing....actual apologies to you then.
I was actually supposed to write I.N.T.E.R.P.R.E.T !!!! Interpret, Not INTERRUPT at all. Typing the wrong word has the complete different meaning to what I intended too.

Shows how well I proof read what I write. Sorry again, you were right to think I was totally nuts and crazy....

dreamsunwind

08-19-2018, 05:00 PM

I respectfully disagree. I don't see any pendulum. They are competitors; two people that have almost zero in common when it comes to what they want from art. One wants "to be happy" and ride out pretending that she's some kind of important diva, and the other wants to continue to use his gifts and create and play new music. And it's been moving in that direction for a very long time.

They dated in the 70s, broke up and maybe had some break up sex along the way. But the truth of the matter is, people keep calling this part of some love/hate back and forth. I call bs on that.

And from a human level, (let's assume that $tevie did what most of us know $he did) that's really really the lowest thing you can do. Knowingly put into action the him or me. Having full knowledge of the consequences in that $he would end someone's legacy and career in the band. Just Wow. I mean really think about that. The fans, the crew, the people involved, etc. It's a lot.

Anyone would have a hard time convincing me that there's any sort of love there. And if they do, I say it's very disgusting and a sick love. (meaning not love) $he's hit a very low point in her life and doesn't realize it. $he will at some point.

I can't imagine the guilt I would feel from ending an institution. Unless of course, I had no $oul.

IA with you on most of this actually. I was usually an optimist about the two of them, I knew they obviously had their issues and were obviously very up and down for ages but I always thought that wasn't that unusual for a band dynamic like that and that in the end they'd always have a different kind of love and care for each other, the kind that you would think is impossible to NOT have for someone you've known THAT long and been through so much with. That's why what happened this year just absolutely floored me. I mean, even Don and Glenn never did THAT to each other. Neither have Mick and Keith. It's just insane to me. I can't imagine doing that to someone who's been such a part of your life for that long or even just letting it happen. It genuinely blows my mind.

button-lip

08-19-2018, 05:02 PM

Oh gosh, thats very embarrassing....actual apologies to you then.
I was actually supposed to write I.N.T.E.R.P.R.E.T !!!! Interpret, Not INTERRUPT at all. Typing the wrong word has the complete different meaning to what I intended too.

Shows how well I proof read what I write. Sorry again, you were right to think I was totally nuts and crazy....

I don't think you're nuts and crazy, and no need to apologize. You did nothing wrong. :thumbsup::angel:

sodascouts

08-19-2018, 05:13 PM

I respectfully disagree. I don't see any pendulum. They are competitors; two people that have almost zero in common when it comes to what they want from art. One wants "to be happy" and ride out pretending that she's some kind of important diva, and the other wants to continue to use his gifts and create and play new music. And it's been moving in that direction for a very long time.

They dated in the 70s, broke up and maybe had some break up sex along the way. But the truth of the matter is, people keep calling this part of some love/hate back and forth. I call bs on that.

And from a human level, (let's assume that $tevie did what most of us know $he did) that's really really the lowest thing you can do. Knowingly put into action the him or me. Having full knowledge of the consequences in that $he would end someone's legacy and career in the band. Just Wow. I mean really think about that. The fans, the crew, the people involved, etc. It's a lot.

Anyone would have a hard time convincing me that there's any sort of love there. And if they do, I say it's very disgusting and a sick love. (meaning not love) $he's hit a very low point in her life and doesn't realize it. $he will at some point.

I can't imagine the guilt I would feel from ending an institution. Unless of course, I had no $oul.

I know what Stevie did was awful. I don't understand it.

The only thing I can think of is that grief messed her up, and that she's lost touch with reality and become so egregiously egocentric that she's destructive not only to those around her but to her own spiritual growth.

I mean the whole "I want to spend the rest of my life dancing around my apartment" thing... that's the way a child thinks, and she's displaying a child's selfishness, a child's tantrums, a child's cruelty.

Will anyone or anything be able to bring her back to reality, or will she continue this scary devolution until she lies dying with a plethora of people who adore her from afar, but no one near who's not on the payroll, or who doesn't hope to get a piece of her estate?

That's the way she's headed if she doesn't WAKE UP before it's too late.

WAKE UP, STEVIE!!

jbrownsjr

08-19-2018, 05:24 PM

I know what Stevie did was awful. I don't understand it.

The only thing I can think of is that grief messed her up, and that she's lost touch with reality and become so egregiously egocentric that she's destructive not only to those around her but to her own spiritual growth.

I mean the whole "I want to spend the rest of my life dancing around my apartment" thing... that's the way a child thinks, and she's displaying a child's selfishness, a child's tantrums, a child's cruelty.

Will anyone or anything be able to bring her back to reality, or will she continue this scary devolution until she lies dying with a plethora of people who adore her from afar, but no one near who's not on the payroll, or who doesn't hope to get a piece of her estate?

That's the way she's headed if she doesn't WAKE UP before it's too late.

WAKE UP, STEVIE!!

I was a fool for thinking Christine could bridge that gap. I think it may have made things worse because of the very beautiful chemistry between BuckVie.

Angel75

08-19-2018, 05:35 PM

Will anyone or anything be able to bring her back to reality, or will she continue this scary devolution until she lies dying with a plethora of people who adore her from afar, but no one near who's not on the payroll, or who doesn't hope to get a piece of her estate?

See no one in her immediate circle will dear encourage her to do the right thing now by Lindsey and apologise, or at least make some sort of peace.

The only person in my mind who could have had the biggest impact and stopped this was Christine and she either chose not to or didn't try hard enough.

Angel75

08-19-2018, 05:39 PM

I don't think you're nuts and crazy, and no need to apologize. You did nothing wrong. :thumbsup::angel:

Well I was pretty annoyed you said I was interrupting you which was unkindof me, when it was my fault I wrote that word by mistake in the first place....anyways, the apology was there in case you wanted it ;)

Back on topic then :rolleyes:

Angel75

08-19-2018, 05:49 PM

I was a fool for thinking Christine could bridge that gap. I think it may have made things worse because of the very beautiful chemistry between BuckVie.

We were all fools to think she could bridge the gap.
It's still in her power too, it's whether she choose to act on it

sodascouts

08-19-2018, 06:06 PM

See no one in her immediate circle will dear encourage her to do the right thing now by Lindsey and apologise, or at least make some sort of peace.

The only person in my mind who could have had the biggest impact and stopped this was Christine and she either chose not to or didn't try hard enough.

I don't think a person will be able to do it, you're right. I think at this point it will have to be an event... something happening that makes her understand. Maybe while touring without him, maybe later... but there's only so much time at this point. That's what I'm afraid of.... that they'll run out of time.

And Christine decided to accept that Stevie is the boss and she (Christine) doesn't even need to be told until after the fact, much less asked her opinion. I don't see her rocking the boat now.

jbrownsjr

08-19-2018, 06:11 PM

I don't think a person will be able to do it, you're right. I think at this point it will have to be an event... something happening that makes her understand. Maybe while touring without him, maybe later... but there's only so much time at this point. That's what I'm afraid of.... that they'll run out of time.

And Christine decided to accept that Stevie is the boss and she (Christine) doesn't even need to be told until after the fact, much less asked her opinion. I don't see her rocking the boat now.

According to Richard's tweet, Christine is torn and feels bad. And while I hate to assume her circumstances: contract, etc. I honestly feel like she should feel like crap that she didn't say something and stop it.

wondergirl9847

08-19-2018, 07:11 PM

jbrownsjr

08-19-2018, 07:36 PM

I agree. Stevie loves the IDEA of her and Lindsey in some great love affair that broke apart. It fits in with her whole storybook fantasyland type of thinking/living. They both continue to write songs about one another, but as for their spectacular "love"....meh, they only dated a few years. I don't doubt they still love one another deep down....it's hard to not care about people, even after they massively hurt you. :( You can certainly love someone, but not like them. LOL

They are just too different in their personalities, goals and ways of thinking to be together...in any capacity, really.

I agree. But, I think it's more of a real love than a romantic love. I love one of my ex boyfriends. (even tho he's still an big jackass). But not with romantic love. More like caring love. Like a family member.

jbrownsjr

08-19-2018, 08:06 PM

I agree. But, I think it's more of a real love than a romantic love. I love one of my ex boyfriends. (even tho he's still an big jackass). But not with romantic love. More like caring love. Like a family member.

Having said that, I think after what has happened, it just well could be a point of no return.
And the sad part is, $he won't realize it until it's too late.

button-lip

08-19-2018, 08:08 PM

I agree. But, I think it's more of a real love than a romantic love. I love one of my ex boyfriends. (even tho he's still an big jackass). But not with romantic love. More like caring love. Like a family member.

It's sad to think that she even lost that connection with Lindsey, that thing they shared since they were kids. Even Lindsey's relatives, people who knew her all her life, despise her now.

button-lip

08-19-2018, 08:11 PM

Having said that, I think after what has happened, it just well could be a point of no return.
And the sad part is, $he won't realize it until it's too late.

I hate to say this, but I think Lindsey want to mend things. He doesn't want to end on a bad note with them. They don't deserve it but that's how he is. And they're gonna take advantage of it whenever suits them best.

Angel75

08-19-2018, 08:41 PM

I hate to say this, but I think Lindsey want to mend things. He doesn't want to end on a bad note with them. They don't deserve it but that's how he is. And they're gonna take advantage of it whenever suits them best.

I agree, I think it bothers him to not be 'at peace' in life....I think by nature he prefers to avoid drama and chaos, he is most comfortable in calm, routine and uncomplicated environments. I wouldn't be surprised despite being the one WRONGED that he breaks the ice first.

button-lip

08-19-2018, 08:48 PM

I agree, I think it bothers him to not be 'at peace' in life....I think by nature he prefers to avoid drama and chaos, he is most comfortable in calm, routine and uncomplicated environments. I wouldn't be surprised despite being the one WRONGED that he breaks the ice first.

He wants to live his family life and do his music. He was always a fish out of the water. And those 4 don't deserve him. But it's gonna happen.

And before haters say it, of course money will be an issue too, but not the most important one. :p

jwd

08-24-2018, 05:58 PM

people!

wasn't that dick joke already long dead in someone's basement after being held captive and tortured for many moons? :eek:

and i hear people wonder why i don't come here anymore. :rolleyes::lol:

beating the dead horse, engaging in highly personal attacks, calling other board members nasty, losers, dumping on whole countries wherever board member you disagree is from, the list goes on. while not adding or discussing any new info, just going in old circles over and over. what could be so disengaging and unattractive on this board, i wonder?? especially when there are actually fantastic new news ongoing at the other boards! :blob1::blob1:

Wasn't about a disagreement with a "board member", just a rebuttal to what the poster commented on about the USA, preceded by the oh so convenient comment, "I know this is political" BUT I'm gonna ****ing say it anyway! I just put things in what I thought was a good perspective.

jwd

08-24-2018, 06:18 PM

SteveMacD

08-28-2018, 05:41 PM

jwd

09-02-2018, 10:42 PM

jwd

09-02-2018, 11:00 PM

jwd

09-02-2018, 11:08 PM

Here's to the next chapter of FM

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Mr Scarrott

09-05-2018, 08:04 AM

"It's not the despair," John Cleese once said, "I can take the despair..it's the hope I can't stand."

So on this day, when we get the first real look at the fourteenth (or thereabouts) version of my favourite band, what are my feelings?

There is interest, certainly in the new line-up, combined with a worry that too many years may have taken its toll on one or two members that the live experience will not quite pass full muster. There is optimism that some recordings may emanate- there is enough talent, and maybe some new chemistry which could produce this. But a full album? I'm not holding my breath.

There is despair that a mixture of bloody-mindedness, finance, art, animosity, impatience and lack of perspective have led them to this day.

There is relief, at a personal level, that I was fortunate to witness the most celebrated manifestation of this band play live. And they were bloody good.

There was hope. I will miss the hope that somehow those five people would produce a worthy and fitting album to close their association. But it was not to be. Yes, despair I can take, but the hope, it's the hope I can't stand.

Street_Dreamer

09-08-2018, 01:14 AM

I was listening to I Will Run To You earlier today (which is vastly superior to Stop Draggin' My Heart Around by the way) and it sunk in just how much of an injustice Lindsey being fired has been. Less than a month from now will be the one year anniversary of Tom Petty's death. He didn't have a chance to do a farewell tour with his band. He was here one day and gone the next.

Fleetwood Mac had that opportunity with their most (in)famous and commercially successful lineup. As fans, we could have been given a proper send off and in return showed the band how much we appreciated them and the impact Fleetwood Mac's music has had on our lives. We won't get it because of the pettiness (pun intended) of a particular member and we almost certainly never will.