View Full Version : FM's old road crew interviewed, including Curry Grant and Ray Lindsey
Sanne2
07-09-2018, 03:19 PM
Interesting to hear about the madness from their perspective and some funny anecdotes too:
https://vimeo.com/237806777
dreamsunwind
07-09-2018, 04:00 PM
This is really cool, thanks for sharing!
The story of how Ray came to play onstage is great. I can imagine how funny it must've been when he just walked out the first time during GYOW.
sodascouts
07-09-2018, 05:09 PM
So interesting! Curry Grant was a looker "back in the day" - I can see why he caught Christine's eye.
I had no idea Lindsey tried to teach Stevie to do the second guitar part in GYOW before turning to Ray Lindsey! lol!
Steviegirl
07-09-2018, 06:54 PM
Wow! That was awesome! Thank you!
justcrazylove
07-09-2018, 07:29 PM
This has been, by far, the most interesting thing posted on this board in months. This made me happy. Thanks :blob1:
Aussie W/Heart
07-09-2018, 07:48 PM
Awesome! pretty cool seeing the printed Sydney especially Melbourne's Calder park itinerary in 77. I often wondered if they stayed at the Hilton.. It was the best day ever!! Santana was playing at the time as we were making our way to the front of the stage, squeezing inch by inch through thousands of people. My friend and i holding hands just in case we lost each other we were only 14 or 15 yrs old.. I remember looking up seeing a helicopter flying low overhead over the huge crowd. We were sooo excited knowing FM had arrived :blob1: Thanks for the memories & sharing..
Storms123
07-09-2018, 07:55 PM
This has been, by far, the most interesting thing posted on this board in months. This made me happy. Thanks :blob1:
Totally agree---would love to see more stuff like this.
lovethemac1
07-09-2018, 09:16 PM
This has been, by far, the most interesting thing posted on this board in months. This made me happy. Thanks :blob1:
This is so true. Just so interesting, and unlike anything I've seen before, both on the Ledge...or anywhere else.
Thank you, so awesome.
Hawkeye
07-09-2018, 10:05 PM
This has been, by far, the most interesting thing posted on this board in months. This made me happy. Thanks :blob1:
Agreed. That was awseome.
Very cool. Thanks for sharing this. Too bad it was only 15 minutes, I'd love to hear more from them.
Tango
07-10-2018, 06:14 AM
Thank you Sanne for putting this up! Great stuff as always from you!
sleepless child
07-10-2018, 07:47 AM
I could listen to them all day. The stories they could tell. I wish one of them would write a book.
HomerMcvie
07-10-2018, 11:14 AM
That was FANTASTIC!!! I love every minute of it!
FuzzyPlum
07-10-2018, 01:58 PM
That was great- shame it wasn't longer. There must be much more of this that was cut. I'd like to have been party to the full event.
David
07-10-2018, 02:28 PM
Fun, fun viewing, especially all the video clips from concerts in 1977 (an Australian Go Your Own Way) and 1980 (the Bowl). What sort of event was this, and when was it held?
A couple of guys are missing—Tony Todaro and Jeff Sova. I hope they're not dead. :(
FuzzyPlum
07-10-2018, 03:07 PM
Fun, fun viewing, especially all the video clips from concerts in 1977 (an Australian Go Your Own Way) and 1980 (the Bowl). What sort of event was this, and when was it held?
A couple of guys are missing—Tony Todaro and Jeff Sova. I hope they're not dead. :(
I was wondering- is this a one off as part of a series or are they doing some sort of tour?
sodascouts
07-10-2018, 03:13 PM
Looks like they're doing it more than once:
https://culturela.org/event/knights-of-rock/
Can't find any info about a tour, though. I suppose if someone is really curious, you can email the guy.
HomerMcvie
07-10-2018, 03:44 PM
Fun, fun viewing, especially all the video clips from concerts in 1977 (an Australian Go Your Own Way) and 1980 (the Bowl). What sort of event was this, and when was it held?
A couple of guys are missing—Tony Todaro and Jeff Sova. I hope they're not dead. :(
Yeah, and I loved the lighting T-shirt that one guy was wearing!!;)
dreamsunwind
07-10-2018, 07:55 PM
I hope there's more to come!
I love interesting yet lighthearted things like this.
Angel75
07-11-2018, 03:39 AM
I hope there's more to come!
I love interesting yet lighthearted things like this.
Yes... And we all certainly need something new, lighthearted and comical that's FM related to watch these days...
Macfan4life
07-11-2018, 05:20 AM
I really enjoyed this but no one talked about the elephant in the room. HELLO!!!! Curry Grant had an affair with a member of the band. THAT would be the juiciest story of anything they told. Then he gets fired for it and then the band hires him back.
Not many roadies or stage crew get to shack up with the band. DO TELL.
I would love to know his feelings on You Make Loving Fun. I cant imagine a song like that written for me ;)
Hawkeye
07-11-2018, 07:39 AM
I really enjoyed this but no one talked about the elephant in the room. HELLO!!!! Curry Grant had an affair with a member of the band. THAT would be the juiciest story of anything they told. Then he gets fired for it and then the band hires him back.
Not many roadies or stage crew get to shack up with the band. DO TELL.
I would love to know his feelings on You Make Loving Fun. I cant imagine a song like that written for me ;)
That’s true about YMLF. But imagine the flip side of how great it would feel
To have such a good song written for you and imagine how sh**ty Jane Goodall must feel :laugh:
aleuzzi
07-11-2018, 09:42 AM
I really enjoyed this but no one talked about the elephant in the room. HELLO!!!! Curry Grant had an affair with a member of the band. THAT would be the juiciest story of anything they told. Then he gets fired for it and then the band hires him back.
Not many roadies or stage crew get to shack up with the band. DO TELL.
I would love to know his feelings on You Make Loving Fun. I cant imagine a song like that written for me ;)
And for years it was widely believed he was intimate with Stevie—once Christine met Dennis. Not sure if these rumors were ever debunked outright but there are A LOT of pics of Grant cozying up with Nicks in 1978.
lovethemac1
07-11-2018, 12:13 PM
And for years it was widely believed he was intimate with Stevie—once Christine met Dennis. Not sure if these rumors were ever debunked outright but there are A LOT of pics of Grant cozying up with Nicks in 1978.
oooooooo, where are these pics?? I would love to see them.:]
sodascouts
07-11-2018, 01:45 PM
I really enjoyed this but no one talked about the elephant in the room. HELLO!!!! Curry Grant had an affair with a member of the band. THAT would be the juiciest story of anything they told. Then he gets fired for it and then the band hires him back.
Not many roadies or stage crew get to shack up with the band. DO TELL.
I would love to know his feelings on You Make Loving Fun. I cant imagine a song like that written for me ;)
I wondered if that was going to come up, too. Guess he didn't want to kiss and tell!
Macfan4life
07-11-2018, 02:56 PM
I wondered if that was going to come up, too. Guess he didn't want to kiss and tell!
I know but how do you not mention THE most exciting story of all. All other stories are boring compared to this. I would at least like to know what he feels about YMLF
SteveMacD
07-11-2018, 05:38 PM
I loved this! Fun hearing about the evolution of the band from the perspective of putting on shows.
aleuzzi
07-11-2018, 06:43 PM
oooooooo, where are these pics?? I would love to see them.:]
Type his name and Fleetwood Mac. Then do an image search. Four came up right away...
fleetwoodguy79
07-11-2018, 07:12 PM
Fun, fun viewing, especially all the video clips from concerts in 1977 (an Australian Go Your Own Way) and 1980 (the Bowl). What sort of event was this, and when was it held?
A couple of guys are missing—Tony Todaro and Jeff Sova. I hope they're not dead. :(
Whoa wait, where is the 1980 Bowl clip??
Awesome, awesome video! Thank you for posting!
dreamsunwind
07-11-2018, 07:44 PM
And for years it was widely believed he was intimate with Stevie—once Christine met Dennis. Not sure if these rumors were ever debunked outright but there are A LOT of pics of Grant cozying up with Nicks in 1978.
Someone asked Richard about those rumors on his old blog and he declined to comment which was pretty telling. CAH also suggested it in her book. And Stevie banged everyone basically so I don't have a hard time believing it.
DownOnRodeo
07-12-2018, 12:11 AM
Maybe Everybody Finds Out is about her time with Curry Grant.
lovethemac1
07-12-2018, 12:11 AM
Type his name and Fleetwood Mac. Then do an image search. Four came up right away...
Those were interesting. Thank you so much! They do look comfortable with each other............
Does anyone know if Ray Lindsey still goes on tour with Lindsey? It seems I've seen him on some of his solo tours, can't recall which.
I wonder what they are all doing now? Still in the business or moved on?
sleepless child
07-14-2018, 06:41 PM
I was wondering too why Ray was no longer with Lindsey and also why is Curry Grant no longer with the group. Age may be a factor too. Most people around 70 think about retirement.
SteveMacD
07-14-2018, 09:45 PM
At the last SYW show in Detroit, Stevie dedicated Landslide to Ray, saying that he drove her to the initial meeting with Fleetwood Mac and that it was his last show with them.
louielouie2000
07-14-2018, 10:05 PM
I was wondering too why Ray was no longer with Lindsey and also why is Curry Grant no longer with the group. Age may be a factor too. Most people around 70 think about retirement.
I thought Curry was fired after Rumours for sleeping with Christine (and Stevie)?
Regarding Ray Lindsey, wasn’t there some sort of drama behind his exit, too? Either regarding compensation or the whole Say You Will album meltdown.
dreamsunwind
07-14-2018, 11:26 PM
Does anyone know if Ray Lindsey still goes on tour with Lindsey? It seems I've seen him on some of his solo tours, can't recall which.
I wonder what they are all doing now? Still in the business or moved on?
He was with Lindsey on his solo tour after SYW.
dreamsunwind
07-14-2018, 11:30 PM
I thought Curry was fired after Rumours for sleeping with Christine (and Stevie)?
Regarding Ray Lindsey, wasn’t there some sort of drama behind his exit, too? Either regarding compensation or the whole Say You Will album meltdown.
Curry was on some of Stevie's solo tours wasn't he?
And I don't think there was drama regarding Ray leaving. As far as I know he just didn't want to tour anymore, although he did stick around to help Lindsey out on his solo tour after that. And he gave some quotes for the Life FM magazine.
Macfan4life
07-15-2018, 04:58 AM
I thought Curry was fired after Rumours for sleeping with Christine (and Stevie)?
Regarding Ray Lindsey, wasn’t there some sort of drama behind his exit, too? Either regarding compensation or the whole Say You Will album meltdown.
Curry was fired for sleeping with Chris but at some point he is hired back. If you check the Mirage tour credits he is credited as the lighting director.
Frankenstein
07-15-2018, 09:32 PM
Stevie and Curry Grant definitely had a thing. There was an interview a few years ago in which she said something like “Fleetwood Mac’s lighting director complained about my stage outfits being see-through, I told him I’m not his girlfriend while I’m up there.”
HomerMcvie
07-15-2018, 11:20 PM
Stevie and Curry Grant definitely had a thing. There was an interview a few years ago in which she said something like “Fleetwood Mac’s lighting director complained about my stage outfits being see-through, I told him I’m not his girlfriend while I’m up there.”
So would that make him the only man that ever banged $tevie AND Christine?
Yeah.... probably not. :woohoo:
dreamsunwind
07-15-2018, 11:39 PM
So would that make him the only man that ever banged $tevie AND Christine?
Yeah.... probably not. :woohoo:
I used to be skeptical about it but I'm kinda convinced Lindsey is another one. In the early days after everyone broke up I think they 'shacked up' once or twice. I was watching clips from the Rumours backstage videos and Christine is sooooo touchy with him.
But other than that I don't think there's much else.
Angel75
07-16-2018, 12:27 AM
I used to be skeptical about it but I'm kinda convinced Lindsey is another one. In the early days after everyone broke up I think they 'shacked up' once or twice. I was watching clips from the Rumours backstage videos and Christine is sooooo touchy with him.
But other than that I don't think there's much else.
I wonder too.... But he was with CAH then so who knows
dreamsunwind
07-16-2018, 01:19 AM
I wonder too.... But he was with CAH then so who knows
I don't think he was took faithful lol. Connie Hamzy the groupie said that not only did she ehem, 'spend some time' with him (as well as Mick and John) but she actually was flown out specifically for him. And he hooked up with one of Stevie's friends at some point in time.
Angel75
07-16-2018, 02:59 AM
I don't think he was took faithful lol. Connie Hamzy the groupie said that not only did she ehem, 'spend some time' with him (as well as Mick and John) but she actually was flown out specifically for him. And he hooked up with one of Stevie's friends at some point in time.
Oh I totally agree, I don't think he was faithful to CAH but she was stuck like glue to him a lot of the time so I think any other hookups would have to have been pretty sneaky
jbrownsjr
07-16-2018, 08:13 AM
So would that make him the only man that ever banged $tevie AND Christine?
Yeah.... probably not. :woohoo:
Don't forget Dennis Wilson...
AnthonyMI
07-16-2018, 03:06 PM
Don't forget Dennis Wilson...
He was a stud in his prime. I don't blame anyone for banging him. I bet even Mick and Lindsey would bang him. Heck. I bet Lindsey did bang him. he LOVED he Beach Boys.
DownOnRodeo
07-16-2018, 11:48 PM
He was a stud in his prime. I don't blame anyone for banging him. I bet even Mick and Lindsey would bang him. Heck. I bet Lindsey did bang him. he LOVED he Beach Boys.
"In this wild wanton world, let us all go down together."
HomerMcvie
07-17-2018, 01:47 AM
He was a stud in his prime. I don't blame anyone for banging him. I bet even Mick and Lindsey would bang him. Heck. I bet Lindsey did bang him. he LOVED he Beach Boys.
I've always thought that Mick and Lindsey both had a little sugar in their britches. Mick, especially. #olddramaqueen
At the last SYW show in Detroit, Stevie dedicated Landslide to Ray, saying that he drove her to the initial meeting with Fleetwood Mac and that it was his last show with them.
I've always wondered if Ray Lindsey was the roadie named Bart in "Into the Great Wide Open." Of course, I probably just have an overly active imagination.
button-lip
07-21-2018, 08:05 AM
He was a stud in his prime. I don't blame anyone for banging him. I bet even Mick and Lindsey would bang him. Heck. I bet Lindsey did bang him. he LOVED he Beach Boys.
I can picture Mick banging John, and John welcoming him with open arms. :laugh::laugh:
It’s truly a dysfunctional family. :nod::nod:
SisterNightroad
07-21-2018, 08:18 AM
Don't forget Dennis Wilson...
The Wilson that went with Stevie was Brian.
Angel75
07-21-2018, 01:59 PM
The Wilson that went with Stevie was Brian.
Really.....? Very interesting, Lindsey would have been gutted by that
dreamsunwind
07-21-2018, 02:12 PM
Really.....? Very interesting, Lindsey would have been gutted by that
I think by then he would've long since not been shocked by anything lol. I remember reading somewhere once when he was asked about her and Mick and he made a point of how he and Stevie had been broken up for a while by then and she's had a lot of boyfriends since. And he said "a lot" again for emphasis :laugh:
HomerMcvie
07-21-2018, 02:18 PM
I think by then he would've long since not been shocked by anything lol. I remember reading somewhere once when he was asked about her and Mick and he made a point of how he and Stevie had been broken up for a while by then and she's had a lot of boyfriends since. And he said "a lot" again for emphasis :laugh:
Inch by inch, mile by mile, she probably qualifies as having competed in some sort of Olympics. :wavey:
SisterNightroad
07-21-2018, 02:26 PM
Really.....? Very interesting, Lindsey would have been gutted by that
If I remember well there's a bootleg outed by Brian Wilson's official forum sites of a song called "Stevie" that apparently Brian wrote for/about her and their relationship around 1980 and produced by Dennis.
lovethemac1
07-21-2018, 02:51 PM
Inch by inch, mile by mile, she probably qualifies as having competed in some sort of Olympics. :wavey:
You always make me laugh out loud...:lol:
HomerMcvie
07-21-2018, 03:31 PM
You always make me laugh out loud...:lol:
Thank you! :woohoo::wavey:
Angel75
07-21-2018, 04:00 PM
I think by then he would've long since not been shocked by anything lol. I remember reading somewhere once when he was asked about her and Mick and he made a point of how he and Stevie had been broken up for a while by then and she's had a lot of boyfriends since. And he said "a lot" again for emphasis :laugh:
Yes I remember this interview, A LOT was certainly emphasised ;)
Yes I remember this interview, A LOT was certainly emphasised ;)
I've always wondered how dysfunctional Stevie seems to be in terms of relationships. She was only married once, to her best friends' husband.?! How many relationships has she had with married men? She's never seen with anyone in a serious long term committed relationship (Waddy was always seen escorting her to all the big time events). Lindsey is in a successful marriage with three beautiful children. What is wrong with her? Is this the lifestyle she chooses? Is this what is driving her mad in the last years of her life? That she has not found true happiness with a soulmate? Her looks are fading and her star is dimming.......What is the key to her happiness?
HomerMcvie
07-22-2018, 12:47 AM
I've always wondered how dysfunctional Stevie seems to be in terms of relationships. She was only married once, to her best friends' husband.?! How many relationships has she had with married men? She's never seen with anyone in a serious long term committed relationship (Waddy was always seen escorting her to all the big time events). Lindsey is in a successful marriage with three beautiful children. What is wrong with her? Is this the lifestyle she chooses? Is this what is driving her mad in the last years of her life? That she has not found true happiness with a soulmate? Her looks are fading and her star is dimming.......What is the key to her happiness?
I think that STARDOM was always her love. IT came first. No man could take the place of that dream.
And she's just so full of herself now, and wrapped up in it, that it's too late now. That's her life.
Which is sad, at the end of the game.
Angel75
07-22-2018, 02:02 AM
I think that STARDOM was always her love. IT came first. No man could take the place of that dream.
And she's just so full of herself now, and wrapped up in it, that it's too late now. That's her life.
Which is sad, at the end of the game.
Yes, this.
A balanced, intelligent and quite fair description of her life and headspace right now. Thank you :)
She is very far removed from reality now and no one is capable of bringing her back. Lindsey may have been able to but that relationship is no longer in existence.
Storms123
07-22-2018, 06:41 AM
Yes, this.
A balanced, intelligent and quite fair description of her life and headspace right now. Thank you :)
She is very far removed from reality now and no one is capable of bringing her back. Lindsey may have been able to but that relationship is no longer in existence.
The perception of her, which may or may not be true is she really can do nothing for herself and without her entourage. I think it's likely security for her to have them all around her, but as such, she probably is sheltered in some way from reality (probably isn't even aware of all of the backlash coming their way) It's kind of sad really.
button-lip
07-22-2018, 10:15 AM
I've always wondered how dysfunctional Stevie seems to be in terms of relationships. She was only married once, to her best friends' husband.?! How many relationships has she had with married men? She's never seen with anyone in a serious long term committed relationship (Waddy was always seen escorting her to all the big time events). Lindsey is in a successful marriage with three beautiful children. What is wrong with her? Is this the lifestyle she chooses? Is this what is driving her mad in the last years of her life? That she has not found true happiness with a soulmate? Her looks are fading and her star is dimming.......What is the key to her happiness?
Could be. I think as years went by, it was harder to please her. And not just by Lindsey but by everybody. The difference is the rest of them can hide their annoyance better than him.
I think she wasted her whole romantic life hoping they'd get back together.
I think that STARDOM was always her love. IT came first. No man could take the place of that dream.
And she's just so full of herself now, and wrapped up in it, that it's too late now. That's her life.
Which is sad, at the end of the game.
Yes, well, that was I was trying to say when I talked about how she stayed with Lindsey not because she loved him but because it was her ticket to fame.
It's sad, yes, but I don't care. Lindsey's not in a nice place right now and it's all because of her. At least she did this to herself.
The perception of her, which may or may not be true is she really can do nothing for herself and without her entourage. I think it's likely security for her to have them all around her, but as such, she probably is sheltered in some way from reality (probably isn't even aware of all of the backlash coming their way) It's kind of sad really.
Her yes-people do a very good job indeed, but I don't think she's unaware of what's going on. She's not as dumb as we think she's.
HomerMcvie
07-22-2018, 10:29 AM
Could be. I think as years went by, it was harder to please her. And not just by Lindsey but by everybody. The difference is the rest of them can hide their annoyance better than him.
I think she wasted her whole romantic life hoping they'd get back together.
Yes, well, that was I was trying to say when I talked about how she stayed with Lindsey not because she loved him but because it was her ticket to fame.
It's sad, yes, but I don't care. Lindsey's not in a nice place right now and it's all because of her. At least she did this to herself.
Her yes-people do a very good job indeed, but I don't think she's unaware of what's going on. She's not as dumb as we think she's.
Can you blame him? He's put up with her sh*t for what, 50 years(okay nerds, IDK when they were in high school)?
She wasted her whole romantic life, because she put it in the back seat. She's sorry now that she wasted it, but she's too set in her routine now, to fix it. She did do this to herself!
Hell, I'm amazed he hasn't killed her by now.
Meh, IDK. I think she might know, but she chooses not to see it. "Where are my yes people? Oh yeah, all.around.me."
I think that STARDOM was always her love. IT came first. No man could take the place of that dream.
And she's just so full of herself now, and wrapped up in it, that it's too late now. That's her life.
Which is sad, at the end of the game.
I guess it's all about being up on that stage where thousands can adore her and tell her how great she is. But hey, she does it for us, to take away our pain for a little while. She writes for us, or at least she did, until she found out it wasn't going to make her money. :laugh: I never really bought the reason that no man would ever want to be in a relationship with someone who has to go out on the road and leave them behind for months at a time. Or that a man would be jealous of her fame and fortune. There are countless other performers that are married or are in successful relationships. Could it be that Stevie is so self centered that she doesn't want to dedicate her time to being in a relationship? Her business I suppose. I just hope that dancing around in her apartment for the next ten years makes her happy.
Storms123
07-22-2018, 03:21 PM
Could be. I think as years went by, it was harder to please her. And not just by Lindsey but by everybody. The difference is the rest of them can hide their annoyance better than him.
I think she wasted her whole romantic life hoping they'd get back together.
Yes, well, that was I was trying to say when I talked about how she stayed with Lindsey not because she loved him but because it was her ticket to fame.
It's sad, yes, but I don't care. Lindsey's not in a nice place right now and it's all because of her. At least she did this to herself.
Her yes-people do a very good job indeed, but I don't think she's unaware of what's going on. She's not as dumb as we think she's.
I 100% agree she's not dumb, she's very smart. I think she's naive when it suits her and when she can hide behind Mick, Karen, Mary, Lori, Sharon, and anyone else who will tell her what she wants to hear to ensure her "brand" isn't tarnished, she will. I would argue, right now, she doesn't know how tarnished it is. I look forward to the interview, because you know it will happen, when she tries to make amends for this. It will happen,,,, it's a given.
gldstwmn
07-22-2018, 03:50 PM
Curry was on some of Stevie's solo tours wasn't he?
And I don't think there was drama regarding Ray leaving. As far as I know he just didn't want to tour anymore, although he did stick around to help Lindsey out on his solo tour after that. And he gave some quotes for the Life FM magazine.
I think Ray left to go to work for Bette Midler.
gldstwmn
07-22-2018, 04:01 PM
The perception of her, which may or may not be true is she really can do nothing for herself and without her entourage. I think it's likely security for her to have them all around her, but as such, she probably is sheltered in some way from reality (probably isn't even aware of all of the backlash coming their way) It's kind of sad really.
I always found the whole don't own a conputer\cell phone schtick particularly irksome. I would say she's pretty sheltered. And she doesn't drive so she's dependent on others. She talked about getting her drivers license. I don't know if that came to pass.If I lived in LA I would want someone to drive me around too.
gldstwmn
07-22-2018, 04:06 PM
Maybe Everybody Finds Out is about her time with Curry Grant.
Interesting. I never could figure out who that song was about.
Steviegirl
07-22-2018, 05:18 PM
If I remember well there's a bootleg outed by Brian Wilson's official forum sites of a song called "Stevie" that apparently Brian wrote for/about her and their relationship around 1980 and produced by Dennis.
Yes, and I believe the name of the bootleg is "The Cocaine Sessions" or something like that. The song is a real stinker. No offense to Beach Boys fans. I love them, especially Brian.
dreamsunwind
07-22-2018, 05:26 PM
I always found the whole don't own a conputer\cell phone schtick particularly irksome. I would say she's pretty sheltered. And she doesn't drive so she's dependent on others. She talked about getting her drivers license. I don't know if that came to pass.If I lived in LA I would want someone to drive me around too.
In one of those talks she did for her movie a few hears ago she even said herself that she lives a sheltered life. There's an old interview of Christine back in the 80s that pretty much sums it up where she talks about Stevie and says how when she first met her, she "had her feet on the ground" but now she lives in her own world (in context she was explaining why they don't socialize anymore).
It's not necessarily always a bad thing but living that lifestyle where you're kind of just in a bubble and mostly surrounded by specific people who cater to you undoubtably has its impact over the years. It's even obvious in some things Stevie will say every now and then. One thing that stood out to me was from just a year ago when Stevie was promoting her tour and talking about how it's different with Fleetwood Mac/Lindsey because he wants rehearsals at 2 in the afternoon and she doesn't even wake up until 3 so that causes conflict between them:l. I thought that was bizarre because to most people, going into work at 2:00 is totally normal, in fact it's kind of late since most people start work in the morning. But Stevie has her own schedule and she's used to everything being structured around it in her own life.
dreamsunwind
07-22-2018, 05:27 PM
Interesting. I never could figure out who that song was about.
Didn't she say it was inspired by the Lewinsky scandal? It would make sense given the time it was written. But she might've drawn from other things as well.
secondhandchain
07-22-2018, 06:06 PM
In one of those talks she did for her movie a few hears ago she even said herself that she lives a sheltered life. There's an old interview of Christine back in the 80s that pretty much sums it up where she talks about Stevie and says how when she first met her, she "had her feet on the ground" but now she lives in her own world (in context she was explaining why they don't socialize anymore).
It's not necessarily always a bad thing but living that lifestyle where you're kind of just in a bubble and mostly surrounded by specific people who cater to you undoubtably has its impact over the years. It's even obvious in some things Stevie will say every now and then. One thing that stood out to me was from just a year ago when Stevie was promoting her tour and talking about how it's different with Fleetwood Mac/Lindsey because he wants rehearsals at 2 in the afternoon and she doesn't even wake up until 3 so that causes conflict between them:l. I thought that was bizarre because to most people, going into work at 2:00 is totally normal, in fact it's kind of late since most people start work in the morning. But Stevie has her own schedule and she's used to everything being structured around it in her own life.
Yup, that quote was very telling. POOR Stevie has to go to rehearsal at 2pm. SHUT UP you whiny, entitled old brat. Stevie Nicks will always now be known as the one who killed FM's legacy. And for those of you who still dont' think it's her fault. WAKE UP.
button-lip
07-22-2018, 06:51 PM
Yup, that quote was very telling. POOR Stevie has to go to rehearsal at 2pm. SHUT UP you whiny, entitled old brat. Stevie Nicks will always now be known as the one who killed FM's legacy. And for those of you who still dont' think it's her fault. WAKE UP.
:xoxo::xoxo:
Those who think it's not her fault will never change their mind. Ever. Unless Stevie confesses and they will still think she was coerced. :lol::lol:
AnthonyMI
07-22-2018, 07:14 PM
Yes, and I believe the name of the bootleg is "The Cocaine Sessions" or something like that. The song is a real stinker. No offense to Beach Boys fans. I love them, especially Brian.
Wait. What?! Stevie and Brian Wilson!?! Eww! Who hasn’t she laid down in the tall grass and shown her stuff!?
bombaysaffires
07-22-2018, 07:21 PM
I really enjoyed this but no one talked about the elephant in the room. HELLO!!!! Curry Grant had an affair with a member of the band. THAT would be the juiciest story of anything they told. Then he gets fired for it and then the band hires him back.
Not many roadies or stage crew get to shack up with the band. DO TELL.
I would love to know his feelings on You Make Loving Fun. I cant imagine a song like that written for me ;)
possibly more than one....
bombaysaffires
07-22-2018, 07:34 PM
whoever posted this, thanks ,this was great.
Who organized that whole meet up? Fantastic.
I want to know if Frozen Love was recorded at any of those early shows that they say it was done live at. They all said it was incredible.
I want to hear it, since it is the only way we'll ever hear those two do that song live. :mad:
Angel75
07-22-2018, 07:50 PM
Didn't she say it was inspired by the Lewinsky scandal? It would make sense given the time it was written. But she might've drawn from other things as well.
Yes in the Destiny Rules doco they refer to this song as Monica (Lewinsky).... But my thoughts have been that this may have been a bit of a smoke screen to cover up lyrics that were semi-autobiographical :shrug:
bombaysaffires
07-22-2018, 07:50 PM
there are more videos on that page, if you haven't seen them
https://vimeo.com/265359879
https://vimeo.com/263160102
Angel75
07-22-2018, 07:59 PM
there are more videos on that page, if you haven't seen them
https://vimeo.com/265359879
https://vimeo.com/263160102
Thanks for posting those links :)
Steviegirl
07-22-2018, 08:29 PM
there are more videos on that page, if you haven't seen them
https://vimeo.com/265359879
https://vimeo.com/263160102
Yes! Thank you very much! This is so cool. I hope it ends up being a full documentary.
lovethemac1
07-22-2018, 08:32 PM
there are more videos on that page, if you haven't seen them
https://vimeo.com/265359879
https://vimeo.com/263160102
Thanks for posting, those are so interesting to watch.
gldstwmn
07-22-2018, 08:37 PM
Didn't she say it was inspired by the Lewinsky scandal? It would make sense given the time it was written. But she might've drawn from other things as well.
Yes. She referred to it as Monica in the Destiny Rules documentary. There are refrences in the song though that seem to be drawn from her own life.
HomerMcvie
07-22-2018, 11:26 PM
Yup, that quote was very telling. POOR Stevie has to go to rehearsal at 2pm. SHUT UP you whiny, entitled old brat. Stevie Nicks will always now be known as the one who killed FM's legacy. And for those of you who still dont' think it's her fault. WAKE UP.
OMG, it's like The Ledge has finally reached the peak I've always dreamed of.:]
She(and Mick) will always be the ones who killed it. I hope that it haunts them to their graves. Self absorbed, delusional asses, they are.
vivfox
07-23-2018, 09:57 AM
I want to know if Frozen Love was recorded at any of those early shows that they say it was done live at. They all said it was incredible.
If u do your research, it is on old bootlegs from that era.
bombaysaffires
07-23-2018, 11:26 AM
If u do your research, it is on old bootlegs from that era.
well I shall get researching then!
David
07-23-2018, 03:49 PM
well I shall get researching then!
Bombay, here's a Frozen Love (https://instaud.io/2t0n) from South Orange 1975.
bombaysaffires
07-24-2018, 01:05 AM
Bombay, here's a Frozen Love (https://instaud.io/2t0n) from South Orange 1975.
Awesome, thanks so much!!! :xoxo:
Interesting they don't trade off the verses like on the record.... and the whole "I've been searching for you" in the middle...:nod:
sodascouts
08-01-2018, 05:28 AM
If I remember well there's a bootleg outed by Brian Wilson's official forum sites of a song called "Stevie" that apparently Brian wrote for/about her and their relationship around 1980 and produced by Dennis.
If anyone is curious: the lyrics to Brian Wilson's "Stevie" (http://www.buckinghamnicks.net/sn/unreleased/stevie.html) (apologies for the antiquated site design)
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