Reflections on Mick

[elle]

no-creativity water-treading shameless a$$hole going by the name Mick Fleetwood.

i'm sorry, but how can anyone calling themselves any era FM fan (Peter Green, Bob Welch, Classic 5, post-Rumours - any version and/or members) give money to this guy in concert is way way beyond me. every time he opens his mouth he buries the current FM version deeper and deeper.

this Mick guy apparently doesn't seem to have an ounce of creativity left in him. he recycles Lindsey's words about treading water, importance of remaining creative, or throwing out some music as calling cards before the tour... so nauseating.

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/mick-fleetwood-new-fleetwood-mac-important-remain-creative-not-tread-water-233748621.html?_guc_consent_skip=1529090510

Mick Fleetwood on the new Fleetwood Mac: 'It's important to remain creative and not tread water'

[sodascouts]

"In fact, [after firing Lindsey] they even considered not going forward at one point, but it didn’t take long before they realized they wanted to stick together.

'Well, it was a huddle, really. It was a team huddle of the existing band members to really not panic into anything, other than really following our hearts as to what this meant — which was huge, any which way you look at it,' Fleetwood muses."

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How can he say it was a "team huddle of the existing band members" when it directly contradicts what he said earlier in the CBS interview, about making the decision to fire Lindsey without consulting Christine?

And how can he say that they considering disbanding after firing Lindsey when they fired him in order for the band to tour? That's just asinine! Obviously, if it were down to keeping him or disbanding, they'd just keep him!

Can't even keep track of his own lies...

[jwd]

no-creativity water-treading shameless a$$hole going by the name Mick Fleetwood.

i'm sorry, but how can anyone calling themselves any era FM fan (Peter Green, Bob Welch, Classic 5, post-Rumours - any version and/or members) give money to this guy in concert is way way beyond me. every time he opens his mouth he buries the current FM version deeper and deeper.

this Mick guy apparently doesn't seem to have an ounce of creativity left in him. he recycles Lindsey's words about treading water, importance of remaining creative, or throwing out some music as calling cards before the tour... so nauseating.

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/mick-fleetwood-new-fleetwood-mac-important-remain-creative-not-tread-water-233748621.html?_guc_consent_skip=1529090510

Mick Fleetwood on the new Fleetwood Mac: 'It's important to remain creative and not tread water'


That's what he should have told Stevie before he fired HER a few years ago.

[sasja]

All I can say is, I am pleased to not have given that shyster a penny of my money since purchasing the Tango in the Night album. Very, very pleased!


:blob2::thumbsup:

[Storms123]

All I can say is, I am pleased to not have given that shyster a penny of my money since purchasing the Tango in the Night album. Very, very pleased!


:blob2::thumbsup:

It's beyond a head scratcher. Firing is a "Dirty word" but much kudos and respect now and into the future.......What does that even mean? No bueno.

[DownOnRodeo]

Don't all his meandering cliches make you want to play Mad Libs?

“Well, it was a _______, really. It was huge, any which way you look at it"

"We took the ______ by the ______. It was really as simple as that. But it certainly took a real, meaningful breath."

"All of us, probably in our various ways, came to that decision that we want to, we need to, _______."


Meanwhile, I think I detect a hint of actual meaning behind his rambling.

Nancy points out that the logic doesn't fit because "how can he say that they considering disbanding after firing Lindsey when they fired him in order for the band to tour?"

My theory for translating what he's saying is that there were at least two main factions (an anti-LB side spearheaded by Stevie and (in response to that) a pro-LB side solely or primarily constituted by Christine) and that all of Mick's musings about "taking a real, meaningful breath," "galvanizing," "needing to feel good about it" are references to the reservations on the side of the pro-LB faction, and the efforts by the anti-LB side to convince them. But whenever Mick speaks, he only permits himself to talk of the LB-less band as if it's a five-legged octopus missing one tentacle and has only one collective brain controlling its decisions, which results in this conflated nonsense.

So I think that what he is saying is probably an accurate description of what happened per se, once you translate it to two account for the existence of the two factions, and read between the lines accordingly.

But yes, as a statement of record, it ends up sounding contradictory in the way it's currently phrased.

[Storms123]

Don't all his meandering cliches make you want to play Mad Libs?

“Well, it was a _______, really. It was huge, any which way you look at it"

"We took the ______ by the ______. It was really as simple as that. But it certainly took a real, meaningful breath."

"All of us, probably in our various ways, came to that decision that we want to, we need to, _______."


Meanwhile, I think I detect a hint of actual meaning behind his rambling.

Nancy points out that the logic doesn't fit because "how can he say that they considering disbanding after firing Lindsey when they fired him in order for the band to tour?"

My theory for translating what he's saying is that there were at least two main factions (an anti-LB side spearheaded by Stevie and (in response to that) a pro-LB side solely or primarily constituted by Christine) and that all of Mick's musings about "taking a real, meaningful breath," "galvanizing," "needing to feel good about it" are references to the reservations on the side of the pro-LB faction, and the efforts by the anti-LB side to convince them. But whenever Mick speaks, he only permits himself to talk of the LB-less band as if it's a five-legged octopus missing one tentacle and has only one collective brain controlling its decisions, which results in this conflated nonsense.

So I think that what he is saying is probably an accurate description of what happened per se, once you translate it to two account for the existence of the two factions, and read between the lines accordingly.

But yes, as a statement of record, it ends up sounding contradictory in the way it's currently phrased.

OMG---Fleetwood MAC libs could be so fun! Great idea.

[AncientQueen]

Mhhhokay, Mick is running in circles.

Nice tribute to Lindseys outstanding work as a wordsmith over the years.:)

[iamnotafraid]

no-creativity water-treading shameless a$$hole going by the name Mick Fleetwood...

Poor Mick. I think that pin in the voodoo doll finally
caught up with him.

Note to self, don't befriend Mick Fleetwood

p.s.
That article finally addressed why Stevie hates Germany.
I never would have guessed the reason...

[guillamene]

Agree!
Said it before: why is he using the prospect of Neil/Mike solo material in the set to promote a FLEETWOOD MAC tour?
Pathetic and sad...….at least we have great tours to look back on.

[DownOnRodeo]

It's beyond a head scratcher. Firing is a "Dirty word" but much kudos and respect now and into the future.......What does that even mean?

It means that if Stevie, heaven forbid, drops dead tomorrow from too much dancing around her apartment, Lindsey will be Mick's new and oldest BFF who he could not possibly have ever magined touring without.

[sleepless child]

From the sound of the article, it's almost like Mick is trying to say Lindsey quit them and left the Mac not knowing what to do. You fired Lindsey Mick, your decision. And moving forward and not treading water? Stevie is the one not doing that with only wanting to do a hits tour every 3 years. Lindsey wanted new material. I am starting to lose it with these people. I really wish Lindsey would do an interview and tell us what happened. None of this makes sense.

[sodascouts]

From the sound of the article, it's almost like Mick is trying to say Lindsey quit them and left the Mac not knowing what to do. You fired Lindsey Mick, your decision. And moving forward and not treading water? Stevie is the one not doing that with only wanting to do a hits tour every 3 years. Lindsey wanted new material. I am starting to lose it with these people. I really wish Lindsey would do an interview and tell us what happened. None of this makes sense.

Yes, acting as if they had no idea who they should call to replace him, and all four of them as a team thought about it hard...and then they came up with Mike Campbell! I bet all that might have been inspired by the TMZ question about Stevie getting Lindsey fired with the explicit purpose of replacing him with Mike.

Nevermind the fact that they had Mike Campbell on the phone to replace Lindsey so quickly that it's possible he might have known about the firing before Lindsey and Christine did!

What was it - 6 days after MusiCares? And Christine and Lindsey left the day after thinking he was still in the band, so they have to wait until Christine goes, so assuming Christine left the very same day and they decided the very next day...

They called Mike at most 4 days after they fired Lindsey.

[HomerMcvie]

I'd bet anything that $tevie had already "what if?'d" Mike, and knew he'd be on board.

[jbrownsjr]

I'd bet anything that $tevie had already "what if?'d" Mike, and knew he'd be on board.

Of course they had it planned before they ousted him. $tevie played this perfectly.

[sodascouts]

Of course they had it planned before they ousted him. $tevie played this perfectly.

True. Stevie must have floated it by him to make sure he'd be available and willing.

I wonder if he feels even a smidge guilty, considering how much he claims to respect Lindsey?

[jbrownsjr]

True. Stevie must have floated it by him to make sure he'd be available and willing.

I wonder if he feels even a smidge guilty, consider how much he claims to respect Lindsey?

$$$$ washes all the guilt away.

[dreamsunwind]

Just ridiculous. Those are basically Lindsey's own words.

[Macfan4life]

I think everyone is freaking out over nothing. Of course Mick is going to say these things. My prediction will come true of them doing a new song in concert just to try to legitimize the band so everyone thinks they are the real deal. What else is Mick going to say? Of course he is being very optimistic about creativity and music. I don't see him saying anything other than what he has to say to convince himself and others this is not some replacement to do one final tour.

[secondhandchain]

Mick you are an a$$h$ole!

[sodascouts]

Meanwhile, I think I detect a hint of actual meaning behind his rambling.

Nancy points out that the logic doesn't fit because "how can he say that they considering disbanding after firing Lindsey when they fired him in order for the band to tour?"

My theory for translating what he's saying is that there were at least two main factions (an anti-LB side spearheaded by Stevie and (in response to that) a pro-LB side solely or primarily constituted by Christine) and that all of Mick's musings about "taking a real, meaningful breath," "galvanizing," "needing to feel good about it" are references to the reservations on the side of the pro-LB faction, and the efforts by the anti-LB side to convince them. But whenever Mick speaks, he only permits himself to talk of the LB-less band as if it's a five-legged octopus missing one tentacle and has only one collective brain controlling its decisions, which results in this conflated nonsense.

So I think that what he is saying is probably an accurate description of what happened per se, once you translate it to two account for the existence of the two factions, and read between the lines accordingly.

But yes, as a statement of record, it ends up sounding contradictory in the way it's currently phrased.

I don't think his phrasing is an accident. I think he's purposefully trying to obfuscate what really happened. He is making it sound like they all had a crisis when really it was just Christine who was upset, and she found out after the fact. He's being deliberately misleading, IMHO, and that is as dishonest as an outright lie.

[sasja]

I don't think his phrasing is an accident. I think he's purposefully trying to obfuscate what really happened. He is making it sound like they all had a crisis when really it was just Christine who was upset, and she found out after the fact. He's being deliberately misleading, IMHO, and that is as dishonest as an outright lie.

More so, in my book, as it requires so much forethought and planning. It's so malicious. It's depressing, the lack of balls here. And for Mick, no less. :] :lol:

[lennonfan]

Hot off the presses!!! NEW ALBUM TITLE!!!

FLEETWOOD MAC - JUMPS THE SHARK

[snroxman]

Lemonfan - great title!! I love it.

This situation is so sad. Mick is doing PR, but still! I'd like to think that one or two of the members would have a conscience and a respect for their own legacy. I keep hoping common sense will prevail, but I guess not.

[lennonfan]

Lemonfan - great title!! I love it.

This situation is so sad. Mick is doing PR, but still! I'd like to think that one or two of the members would have a conscience and a respect for their own legacy. I keep hoping common sense will prevail, but I guess not.

had it been a situation where Lindsey said 'I've had enough, I'm out' I would look at this situation so differently.....not that I would be enthused in the least, but at least I'd have an ear bent toward hearing the new results. Not now, not at all. I'm not understanding this at all, this bit from Mick about 'being creative' sounds like it came from a script written by Lindsey.

I think it really is about Stevie not wanting to work with him anymore. If she had, they would be! So, continued respect for Stevie the artist but Stevie the Diva looks about as bad as it gets.

[SteveMacD]

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[David]

Mick Fleetwood is so messed up in the head (we've all known for years) that I have to admit it IS fun to knock him over and over. In the Seventies, when he headed Seedy, he had integrity, if not personally then at least for Fleetwood Mac. He rightfully slammed Frampton for allowing himself to be marketed with gimmicky saturation campaigns (tchotchkes and other giveaways packed inside albums), and prevented Fleetwood Mac from being packaged and sold in like manner. But the integrity in Mick completely withered up within, say, five years of that. It was actually fun in those days being a fan of a superstar band that was so hip because of its music and its self-management. I remember how cool I thought it was that a band whose music was not a sellout also didn't crassly market itself like a Teen Beat idol. It was a rock band in those days, first and last. Probably without much in the way of obstruction from the others, Mick took it down over the years with his wines and eateries and his stupid lineups and all his other crap, so it's fun raking him over the hot coals. It's self-sustaining.

[secondhandchain]

When I saw the dollar signs, I immediately knew what this thread was about.

[secret love]

no-creativity water-treading shameless a$$hole going by the name Mick Fleetwood.

i'm sorry, but how can anyone calling themselves any era FM fan (Peter Green, Bob Welch, Classic 5, post-Rumours - any version and/or members) give money to this guy in concert is way way beyond me. every time he opens his mouth he buries the current FM version deeper and deeper.

this Mick guy apparently doesn't seem to have an ounce of creativity left in him. he recycles Lindsey's words about treading water, importance of remaining creative, or throwing out some music as calling cards before the tour... so nauseating.

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/mick-fleetwood-new-fleetwood-mac-important-remain-creative-not-tread-water-233748621.html?_guc_consent_skip=1529090510

Mick Fleetwood on the new Fleetwood Mac: 'It's important to remain creative and not tread water'

Mick is many things. Greedy and self serving yes, but of those many things-An orifice is not one of them. You ought to be ashamed of the hate and dare I say it, DEFAMATION you are spreading, given you get so upset when your boyfriend Lindsey is defamed. No doubt you won't like to hear this but you need to listen and take it on board. I know he's not actually your boyfriend and yes I'm antagonizing you by saying that but YOU are antagonizing me and other fans of Mick by calling him an a-hole. :distress:

[trackaghost]

Of course they had it planned before they ousted him. $tevie played this perfectly.

This. Stevie wanted him in the band and knew he would do it. I think the idea of Mike being in the band has been forming ever since Tom died.

[StreetAngel86]

Fleetwood Mac the band is DEAD

Mick "dollar signs" Fleetwood needs to rebrand
so this new band can disappear into the cosmos and we don't have to hear about them ever again.


ETA: secretlove Mick Fleetwood IS an A$ $ HO LE. class 1. he doesn't give a a flying F about this band or the fans. can't even keep track of his own lies and doesn't value the longterm fans, lindsey's loyalty or the legacy of the band to even tell a remote sliver or Truth. if that doesn't make him an asshole, dunno what does.

[button-lip]

Agree 100% - what a shameless shyster. I'll chuckle at the inevitable YouTube videos posted for Finnwood Mike but no way would I do anything that would line the pockets of this MF <-his initials are quite apt! :mad:

I'm not even gonna waste my time on those YT videos :rolleyes:

Yes, acting as if they had no idea who they should call to replace him, and all four of them as a team thought about it hard...and then they came up with Mike Campbell! I bet all that might have been inspired by the TMZ question about Stevie getting Lindsey fired with the explicit purpose of replacing him with Mike.

Nevermind the fact that they had Mike Campbell on the phone to replace Lindsey so quickly that it's possible he might have known about the firing before Lindsey and Christine did!

What was it - 6 days after MusiCares? And Christine and Lindsey left the day after thinking he was still in the band, so they have to wait until Christine goes, so assuming Christine left the very same day and they decided the very next day...

They called Mike at most 4 days after they fired Lindsey.

I asked if when MC was approached he knew what was gonna happen to Lindsey, because I think the question was inevitable. And the answer was "yes".


Mick is many things. Greedy and self serving yes, but of those many things-An orifice is not one of them. You ought to be ashamed of the hate and dare I say it, DEFAMATION you are spreading, given you get so upset when your boyfriend Lindsey is defamed. No doubt you won't like to hear this but you need to listen and take it on board. I know he's not actually your boyfriend and yes I'm antagonizing you by saying that but YOU are antagonizing me and other fans of Mick by calling him an a-hole. :distress:

Are you kidding? Mick is all those things and more. What other fans of Mick? Anyway, being an a$$hole is different than being an a*shole. :angel:

[Storms123]

Lemonfan - great title!! I love it.

This situation is so sad. Mick is doing PR, but still! I'd like to think that one or two of the members would have a conscience and a respect for their own legacy. I keep hoping common sense will prevail, but I guess not.

I think he's doing what he needs to do to legitimize this lineup and their actions. I'd like to see if/how the narrative changes once the tour starts and reviews come out. Who knows, maybe they purposefully left Christine out of it, so she would be the one to go and try to mend fences when this all goes south! LOL

[sasja]

Mick is many things. Greedy and self serving yes, but of those many things-An orifice is not one of them. You ought to be ashamed of the hate and dare I say it, DEFAMATION you are spreading, given you get so upset when your boyfriend Lindsey is defamed. No doubt you won't like to hear this but you need to listen and take it on board. I know he's not actually your boyfriend and yes I'm antagonizing you by saying that but YOU are antagonizing me and other fans of Mick by calling him an a-hole. :distress:

Holy moley close call between which of all these statements is the most flabbergasting; an interesting choice, as well, to be fan-atical about a "greedy and self-serving, yes" - person. IMHO.

In other news though, I do know THIS -- rest assured that that man hardly needs any help from us denizens, reputationwise. He seems to be managing the vicious spiral downwards quite well without any outside help. :rolleyes:

[BigAl84]

Mick is many things. Greedy and self serving yes, but of those many things-An orifice is not one of them. You ought to be ashamed of the hate and dare I say it, DEFAMATION you are spreading, given you get so upset when your boyfriend Lindsey is defamed. No doubt you won't like to hear this but you need to listen and take it on board. I know he's not actually your boyfriend and yes I'm antagonizing you by saying that but YOU are antagonizing me and other fans of Mick by calling him an a-hole. :distress:


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[Angel75]

Mick is many things. Greedy and self serving yes, but of those many things-An orifice is not one of them. You ought to be ashamed of the hate and dare I say it, DEFAMATION you are spreading, given you get so upset when your boyfriend Lindsey is defamed. No doubt you won't like to hear this but you need to listen and take it on board. I know he's not actually your boyfriend and yes I'm antagonizing you by saying that but YOU are antagonizing me and other fans of Mick by calling him an a-hole. :distress:


You are a Mick fan you say, I'm just interested in what you believe his redeeming features are these days?

[JohnL]

no-creativity water-treading shameless a$$hole going by the name Mick Fleetwood.

i'm sorry, but how can anyone calling themselves any era FM fan (Peter Green, Bob Welch, Classic 5, post-Rumours - any version and/or members) give money to this guy in concert is way way beyond me. every time he opens his mouth he buries the current FM version deeper and deeper.

this Mick guy apparently doesn't seem to have an ounce of creativity left in him. he recycles Lindsey's words about treading water, importance of remaining creative, or throwing out some music as calling cards before the tour... so nauseating.

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/mick-fleetwood-new-fleetwood-mac-important-remain-creative-not-tread-water-233748621.html?_guc_consent_skip=1529090510

Mick Fleetwood on the new Fleetwood Mac: 'It's important to remain creative and not tread water'

In all seriousness, can you please express your opinion without calling anyone names? I cannot believe this continues to be allowed over and over on this board. And Lindsey does not have the market on pretty words. Mick has always spoken pretty eloquently without sounding rehearsed.

[JohnL]

Mick is many things. Greedy and self serving yes, but of those many things-An orifice is not one of them. You ought to be ashamed of the hate and dare I say it, DEFAMATION you are spreading, given you get so upset when your boyfriend Lindsey is defamed. No doubt you won't like to hear this but you need to listen and take it on board. I know he's not actually your boyfriend and yes I'm antagonizing you by saying that but YOU are antagonizing me and other fans of Mick by calling him an a-hole. :distress:

Hallelujah!!

[FuzzyPlum]

I think there should probably be a stand alone thread for times when Mick Fleetwood was an ass.
Personally, the more I've read about it, the more I feel he was a complete ass during the fake Fleetwood Mac period. He's an ass. I don't hate him. He has some redeeming features, but he's still an ass.

[jbrownsjr]

I think there should probably be a stand alone thread for times when Mick Fleetwood was an ass.
Personally, the more I've read about it, the more I feel he was a complete ass during the fake Fleetwood Mac period. He's an ass. I don't hate him. He has some redeeming features, but he's still an ass.

We don't always agree. But, I've always respected your clear and direct opinions. :lol:

[FuzzyPlum]

I think there should probably be a stand alone thread for times when Mick Fleetwood was an ass.
Personally, the more I've read about it, the more I feel he was a complete ass during the fake Fleetwood Mac period. He's an ass. I don't hate him. He has some redeeming features, but he's still an ass.

We don't always agree. But, I've always respected your clear and direct opinions. :lol:


Erm, that probably was a tad OTT actually. I'm afraid that post came a little while after England beat Tunisia in the football (soccer) World Cup (and several pints of finest German lager) ;)

[SteveMacD]

Erm, that probably was a tad OTT actually. I'm afraid that post came a little while after England beat Tunisia in the football (soccer) World Cup (and several pints of finest German lager) ;)

Don’t apologize for drunk posting! Those might be the best thing ever.

[sodascouts]

Don’t apologize for drunk posting! Those might be the best thing ever.

The timing was a bit awkward, though. I had just said that Fuzzy Plum was not a vulgar poster only a few hours before!

[FuzzyPlum]

Don’t apologize for drunk posting! Those might be the best thing ever.


I really...hic...love you...hic

[button-lip]

Erm, that probably was a tad OTT actually. I'm afraid that post came a little while after England beat Tunisia in the football (soccer) World Cup (and several pints of finest German lager) ;)

I was also planning to watch the game on some pub near my hotel, but everthing was packed. Great win, btw! :nod: And being drunk because of football is one of the best feelings, so never apologize! :D;)

Then I came home and found out we were losing. :( Hope my team wakes up on Tuesday. :D

[bombaysaffires]

I'd bet anything that $tevie had already "what if?'d" Mike, and knew he'd be on board.


you know it

[MoonSister75]

Thank you to the sensible person who changed the title of this thread to "reflections of Mick" :thumbsup:

[elle]

Thank you to the sensible person who changed the title of this thread to "reflections of Mick" :thumbsup:

:laugh: you didn't like my title? so now we have a completely misleading title about the actual content of the thread. :] because lately apparently bashing board members is completely ok (something typically done on the internets when one runs out of sensible argument!), but calling band members on their bs is apparently now verboten here. :nod:

[HomerMcvie]

:laugh: you didn't like my title? so now we have a completely misleading title about the actual content of the thread. :] because lately apparently bashing board members is completely ok (something typically done on the internets when one runs out of sensible argument!), but calling band members on their bs is apparently now verboten here. :nod:

I agree with you on the member bashing. The band was always fair game, but personal attacks on members weren't....which seemingly has changed here of late. I don't like it, either.

Thick skin has always been (pretty much) a requirement to ~hang~ on here, I guess it just has to be thicker, now. You got this, Elle.:angel:

[Buster]

I agree with you on the member bashing. The band was always fair game, but personal attacks on members weren't....which seemingly has changed here of late. I don't like it, either.

Thick skin has always been (pretty much) a requirement to ~hang~ on here, I guess it just has to be thicker, now. You got this, Elle.:angel:

Misogynist comments about band members should not be considered fair game. The same way a racist comment wouldn’t be considered acceptable. They perpetuate nasty behavior against women and allowing it in the board sends a message that it is acceptable behavior. If Homer and others can’t understand this, that is on them. But they are hardly victims. They are bullies who hide behind a computer to express their misogyny but cry foul when the recipient of a personal attack.

The misogyny also plays out in how these posters interact with women who have the nerve to disagree strongly with them.

If owners want to ban me for calling out misogyny, feel free. There is very little useful or interesting dialogue here anyway, just a lot of chit-chat and backslapping among a handful of people.

[button-lip]

:laugh: you didn't like my title? so now we have a completely misleading title about the actual content of the thread. :] because lately apparently bashing board members is completely ok (something typically done on the internets when one runs out of sensible argument!), but calling band members on their bs is apparently now verboten here. :nod:

For some of us, this thread will always be known as: the "Mick is an a$$hole" thread. Mick isn't capable of any reflection at all. :lol::lol::lol:

I agree with you on the member bashing. The band was always fair game, but personal attacks on members weren't....which seemingly has changed here of late. I don't like it, either.

Thick skin has always been (pretty much) a requirement to ~hang~ on here, I guess it just has to be thicker, now. You got this, Elle.:angel:

I see some with pretty thin skin here who get what they want. And then they have the audacity to say moderators do nothing. :rolleyes:

[HomerMcvie]

Misogynist comments about band members should not be considered fair game. The same way a racist comment wouldn’t be considered acceptable. They perpetuate nasty behavior against women and allowing it in the board sends a message that it is acceptable behavior. If Homer and others can’t understand this, that is on them. But they are hardly victims. They are bullies who hide behind a computer to express their misogyny but cry foul when the recipient of a personal attack.

The misogyny also plays out in how these posters interact with women who have the nerve to disagree strongly with them.

If owners want to ban me for calling out misogyny, feel free. There is very little useful or interesting dialogue here anyway, just a lot of chit-chat and backslapping among a handful of people.

The difference is that PERSONAL ATTACKS ARE FORBIDDEN HERE(whether enforced or not). Are you able to comprehend the difference?

And just because someone doesn't like $tevie Nick$ doesn't make them a misogynist. It means they have excellent taste, somewhat above the general masses.

But just keep ranting and pointing your finger. Few care.

[sodascouts]

:laugh: you didn't like my title? so now we have a completely misleading title about the actual content of the thread. :] because lately apparently bashing board members is completely ok (something typically done on the internets when one runs out of sensible argument!), but calling band members on their bs is apparently now verboten here. :nod:

Probably "Reflections on Mick's Yahoo Interview" would be most descriptive, as that was what triggered your anger, and what we were first commenting upon. This title makes the thread sound a lot more philosophical than it is, lol. Of course, as is the case with most of our longer threads, we have strayed from that topic!