Songs they will keep/drop/add

[secret love]

What songs will Fleetwood Mac keep or drop or add? And no, I didn't mean to post this in Post Rumours. If it's Fleetwood Mac without Christine, then it's Fleetwood Mac without Lindsey. And all who disagree can go cry in the corner.

Keep:
Christine - You Make Loving Fun, Say You Love Me, Everywhere, Little Lies, Don't Stop, World Turning
Stevie - Dreams, Gold Dust Woman, Gypsy, Landslide (with Mike), Silver Springs, Rhiannon

Drop:
Christine - Over My Head, Think About Me
Stevie - Sisters of the Moon, Sara

Add:
Christine - New song (could be a BuckVie song, maybe Red Sun or Carnival Begin), Get Like You Used To Be, Why, Just Crazy Love
Stevie - Stand Back, Crying in the Night, Stop Dragging My Heart Around, I Need to Know, Free Falling, new song (maybe My Mother's Rings)

[annabellee]

Stevie
Add: Angel, Everybody Finds Out, Paper Doll, Freedom
Do not add: Any solo or TP songs.

Christine
Add: Think About Me, Love In Store, Songbird, Isn't It Midnight, Save Me

That is all.

[ryan4136]

8,363,838th thread on this topic.

[TrueFaith77]

What songs will Fleetwood Mac keep or drop or add? And no, I didn't mean to post this in Post Rumours. If it's Fleetwood Mac without Christine, then it's Fleetwood Mac without Lindsey. And all who disagree can go cry in the corner.


It's post-Rumours because the touring band has new (post-Rumours) members, just like when Lindsey left and Christine and Stevie were still in the band. Would you do a thread completely devoted to the touring setlist of the Behind the Mask crew in Rumours or Post-Rumours?

SYW Mac didn't have new members.

[jmn3]

It's post-Rumours because the touring band has new (post-Rumours) members, just like when Lindsey left and Christine and Stevie were still in the band. Would you do a thread completely devoted to the touring setlist of the Behind the Mask crew in Rumours or Post-Rumours?

SYW Mac didn't have new members.

Why is this so hard for people? The 2003-2013 band didn’t add any members to replace Christine. The 2018+ band is a completely different lineup with official members added to the band in replacement of Lindsey.

The OP is really suggesting that there should just be a 1975+ forum no matter which of the five different lineups from that era are being discussed.

[sodascouts]

What they need to do is change the post-Rumours forum description. I agree that this is post-Rumours due to new members being added that are not of the Rumours era, but the other forum's description confuses people since it does not apply as stated there.

[FuzzyPlum]

This is not a discussion pertaining to the Rumours-era band.
Could mods please move this to one of the existing threads in Post-Rumours?
Many thanks :thumbsup:

[Feather Blade]

I believe Sister NightRoad said the moderators had a discussion and agreed that for the sake of simplicity items related to the new line up should stay here.

[Netter75]

Stevie
Add: Angel, Everybody Finds Out, Paper Doll, Freedom
Do not add: Any solo or TP songs.

Christine
Add: Think About Me, Love In Store, Songbird, Isn't It Midnight, Save Me

That is all.

Kill Paper Doll and substitute for Thrown Down or Illume or something and I'll agree whole-heartedly.

Straight Back substituted for SotM would be interesting as well, but it'll never happen.

[SteveMacD]

Drop:
All of Lindsey’s songs except GYOW, and possibly SHN.
Stevie: All songs NOT Dreams, Landslide, Rhiannon, GDW, or Gypsy
Christine: All songs NOT SYLM, YMLF, Don’t Stop, Songbird, or Everywhere

Add:
Station Man
Oh Well
Rattlesnake Shake
Man of the World
Spare Me A Little Of Your Love
Hypnotized
DDIO
Something So Strong
Running Down A Dream
Stop Dragging My Heart Around


Including The Chain and World Turning, that’s 23-24 songs, which is about right, give or take.

[SteveMacD]

Why is this so hard for people? The 2003-2013 band didn’t add any members to replace Christine. The 2018+ band is a completely different lineup with official members added to the band in replacement of Lindsey.

The OP is really suggesting that there should just be a 1975+ forum no matter which of the five different lineups from that era are being discussed.

Actually, there needs to be a new section: Post-Reunion

Post-Rumours is part of a linear timeframe that has nothing to do with current lineup, except maybe for the fact Mike Campbell co-wrote “Freedom.”

[BombaySapphire3]

No one mentioned "Don't Dream ..It's Over" which is sure to be performed .A fitting epitaph for a once great band.

[SteveMacD]

No one mentioned "Don't Dream ..It's Over" which is sure to be performed .A fitting epitaph for a once great band.

I think Stevie confirmed they were doing it. How could they not? It’s arguably the best pop song of the 1980s. You don’t have THAT guy in the band and not do THAT song.

[guillamene]

Surely with news of the sad passing of Danny Kirwan, including Station Man in the set would be a lovely tribute to the man and this great song?

[David]

I think Stevie confirmed they were doing it. How could they not? It’s arguably the best pop song of the 1980s.
Good Lord, Steve. NFW.

I mean, it's a nice ditty. We all sang along back in the day. I'm sure the band will play it.

[HomerMcvie]

Surely with news of the sad passing of Danny Kirwan, including Station Man in the set would be a lovely tribute to the man and this great song?

Yeah right!!!! Just like they did for Bob Welch, who was infinitely more important to the history of the band!

[jmn3]

I think Stevie confirmed they were doing it. How could they not? It’s arguably the best pop song of the 1980s. You don’t have THAT guy in the band and not do THAT song.

You could argue that but I'm not going to agree. I mean, there is a LOT of pop songs in that decade. It's a good song, but the best? :shrug:

Maybe it's a result of my age (born at the end of the first year of said decade), I knew the song Don't Dream it's Over and could probably have sung along to it for most of my life (at least since it's release), but I never knew who sang it until this whole "we fired Lindsey" thing happened.

[jmn3]

Yeah right!!!! Just like they did for Bob Welch, who was infinitely more important to the history of the band!

And if they do play it, one of two things will happen:
1) The put it in the middle of the set and half the audience shrugs and goes to take a leak or get more beer and it gets yanked out of the set after a few shows
or
2) They play it as the first song (a la 197-...6?) and half the audience shrugs but sits there with blank stares and it gets yanked out of the set after a few shows

The band ignored it's own past for so long that by now the vast majority of what has been cultivated as a Fleetwood Mac audience in 2018 doesn't even realize or care that there was other singers than Stevie, Chris, and he who shall not be named. I highly doubt they'd have the balls to keep a song in their set long term where they get no audience reaction or half of them use it as a beer run. Springsteen they are not.

[HomerMcvie]

And if they do play it, one of two things will happen:
1) The put it in the middle of the set and half the audience shrugs and goes to take a leak or get more beer and it gets yanked out of the set after a few shows
or
2) They play it as the first song (a la 197-...6?) and half the audience shrugs but sits there with blank stares and it gets yanked out of the set after a few shows

The band ignored it's own past for so long that by now the vast majority of what has been cultivated as a Fleetwood Mac audience in 2018 doesn't even realize or care that there was other singers than Stevie, Chris, and he who shall not be named. I highly doubt they'd have the balls to keep a song in their set long term where they get no audience reaction or half of them use it as a beer run. Springsteen they are not.
They WON'T do it. Trust me. I'll wager pretty much any amount.

It's the $tevie Nick$ show now.

[Storms123]

And if they do play it, one of two things will happen:
1) The put it in the middle of the set and half the audience shrugs and goes to take a leak or get more beer and it gets yanked out of the set after a few shows
or
2) They play it as the first song (a la 197-...6?) and half the audience shrugs but sits there with blank stares and it gets yanked out of the set after a few shows

The band ignored it's own past for so long that by now the vast majority of what has been cultivated as a Fleetwood Mac audience in 2018 doesn't even realize or care that there was other singers than Stevie, Chris, and he who shall not be named. I highly doubt they'd have the balls to keep a song in their set long term where they get no audience reaction or half of them use it as a beer run. Springsteen they are not.


The one interesting thing about this tour is going to be how much gets "yanked out" after the first few shows. I actually think the set list for this mini tour could move around a bit--they are going to try to dig into their gothic trunk of lost songs, which I actually think is cool--but the jukebox generation that is paying up for this isn't going to recognize the old stuff (pre S&L) and stuff will get dropped and rejiggered.

I for one don't think they should sing any of Lindsey's songs. I know Mick thinks you need to end the show with GYOW, but it will just call out the elephant in the room. I am sure they will keep it--but they shouldn't.
And I am sure Mick Fleetwood's all-star band will add DDIO and TPH tunes-
I also think Songbird will come and go throughout the tour, depending on the strength of Christine's voice (similar to OWTS--although I believe then the issue was a hand injury and she couldn't play piano?)

[elle]

Surely with news of the sad passing of Danny Kirwan, including Station Man in the set would be a lovely tribute to the man and this great song?

of course, Stevie is adamant that Station Man is a Christine song and has apparently never heard of Danny Kirwan. :distress:

[SteveMacD]

And if they do play it, one of two things will happen:
1) The put it in the middle of the set and half the audience shrugs and goes to take a leak or get more beer and it gets yanked out of the set after a few shows

Here’s the thing that I don’t get, nobody ever suggests that they shouldn’t do NEW songs because half the crowd will get up to for a leak or beer run, just the old songs.

The one interesting thing about this tour is going to be how much gets "yanked out" after the first few shows.

Their history suggests otherwise. They kept Peter Green songs in the set that were from long out of print albums and not available on CD in America at the time during the 1987-88 and 1990 tours. The songs they are talking about are not nearly as obscure.

[elle]

Their history suggests otherwise. They kept Peter Green songs in the set that were from long out of print albums and not available on CD in America at the time during the 1987-88 and 1990 tours. The songs they are talking about are not nearly as obscure.

as a rule, LB would never drop more obscure or new songs they played where he was the lead - think his SYW songs or Sad Angel, as the recent example.

SN would always drop her songs that are more obscure as the tour would go on - like her new songs on SYW tour, or Without You on 2013 tour, or Seven Wonders on OWTS tour.

since i have to assume none of the pre-BN era songs will be performed primarily by SN, it is possible they won't be dropped.

[SteveMacD]

SN would always drop her songs that are more obscure as the tour would go on - like her new songs on SYW tour, or Without You on 2013 tour, or Seven Wonders on OWTS tour.

And with Stevie, I think she drops stuff that becomes more taxing on her voice as the tour goes on.

since i have to assume none of the pre-BN era songs will be performed primarily by SN, it is possible they won't be dropped.

The other thing is that they'll need to fill Lindsey’s space in the setlist, so the old songs are now a necessity.

[HomerMcvie]

The other thing is that they'll need to fill Lindsey’s space in the setlist, so the old songs are now a necessity.

Not if they do 4 $tevie Nick$ solo songs, especially the long, drawn out ones. Throw in a couple Crowded House songs, and a couple Petty songs, and....."Lindsey WHO?" :mad::mad::mad:

[SteveMacD]

Not if they do 4 $tevie Nick$ solo songs, especially the long, drawn out ones. Throw in a couple Crowded House songs, and a couple Petty songs, and....."Lindsey WHO?" :mad::mad::mad:

I don’t think Stevie wants to sing more than her 6-8 songs. That said, I think they will do five old Mac songs, 1-2 CH songs, 1-2 TPATH songs, and SDMHA.

[Storms123]

Here’s the thing that I don’t get, nobody ever suggests that they shouldn’t do NEW songs because half the crowd will get up to for a leak or beer run, just the old songs.



Their history suggests otherwise. They kept Peter Green songs in the set that were from long out of print albums and not available on CD in America at the time during the 1987-88 and 1990 tours. The songs they are talking about are not nearly as obscure.

S&L Yanked their own songs out. I don't think Stevie will have any issue yanking someone else's song out if she looks out to the masses and sees empty seats :) LOL

[SteveMacD]

S&L Yanked their own songs out. I don't think Stevie will have any issue yanking someone else's song out if she looks out to the masses and sees empty seats :) LOL

Again, though, they didn’t yank songs like “I Loved Another Woman” or “Stop Messin’ Round” and those hadn’t been in-print in America since the mid-1970s, so I don’t know why people are expecting anything different on this tour.

[dreamsunwind]

Again, though, they didn’t yank songs like “I Loved Another Woman” or “Stop Messin’ Round” and those hadn’t been in-print in America since the mid-1970s, so I don’t know why people are expecting anything different on this tour.

Well that was still decades ago and things could have changed. Their audience has certainly changed. But either way if they're gonna drop any songs as the tour progresses it will probably be a group agreement based on crowd reaction.

[SteveMacD]

Well that was still decades ago and things could have changed. Their audience has certainly changed. But either way if they're gonna drop any songs as the tour progresses it will probably be a group agreement based on crowd reaction.

Did Stevie drop songs on her last tour?

[Storms123]

Did Stevie drop songs on her last tour?

Yes she did, but it was subtle. Leather and Lace was in there in the beginning and ultimately punted, although I can't figure out why. It was really well done. I feel like there was one more change too, but for the life of me, can't recall it.

[dreamsunwind]

Did Stevie drop songs on her last tour?

I'm not sure actually. What I saw, she played like 2 songs from the 24KG album and 2 from IYD if I'm remembering correctly. Those were the probably the 'least' known songs. All the other songs were her older, more well known ones. Oh and Crying in the Night. I don't know if the set list changed throughout the tour.

[dreamsunwind]

Yes she did, but it was subtle. Leather and Lace was in there in the beginning and ultimately punted, although I can't figure out why. It was really well done. I feel like there was one more change too, but for the life of me, can't recall it.

Oh I do know that. It was replaced by Landslide.

[elle]

And with Stevie, I think she drops stuff that becomes more taxing on her voice as the tour goes on.
that would be interesting thought except it runs contrary to the facts. not all non-staple songs are taxing on her voice yet generally keep being dropped, while some staples are, yet keep staying in the set. Silver Springs has been a staple and is taxing on her voice, and while is dropped some shows it's generally always brought back during a tour. of course, now without LB it seem asinine to still have it in the set, but it's even more asinine to have the Chain in the set and you know they will. :rolleyes:

[elle]

S&L Yanked their own songs out. I don't think Stevie will have any issue yanking someone else's song out if she looks out to the masses and sees empty seats :) LOL

Lindsey does not yank his songs out, staples or deep cuts.

on OWTS they did replace 1 each song for the Australian leg - IKINW came out and BTLH in, Sara replaced SOTM, and TAM replaced OMH.

however Seven Wonders was completely dropped during US leg already.

[elle]

Did Stevie drop songs on her last tour?

if i remember correctly, she had a really impressive deep cut / new releases setlist at first, with hardly any staples / FM hits. several not well known songs were eventually replaced by FM hits as the tour was going on, but i think even in the end it was pretty impressive setlist for her.

[Storms123]

if i remember correctly, she had a really impressive deep cut / new releases setlist at first, with hardly any staples / FM hits. several not well known songs were eventually replaced by FM hits as the tour was going on, but i think even in the end it was pretty impressive setlist for her.

She did a fantastic job of pulling the obscure stuff out. I loved her last tour. It was fantastic.

[Netter75]

Did Stevie drop songs on her last tour?

She dropped Annabel Lee entirely (bummer) after a show or two and replaced Leather & Lace with Landslide (Not something that bothered me personally).

Outside the Rain/Dreams was replaced with Gypsy for a while before they were both added back to the set to replace New Orleans, with Gypsy remaining.

So yes, but still good for her with 8-9 non-staples (depending on your definition) persistent throughout.
1. Crying in the Night
2. Belle Fleur
3. Moonlight
4. If You Were My Love
5. Starshine
6. Gold & Braid
7. Enchanted (kind of a staple at this point but not a mainstream song)
8. Wild Heart
9. Bella Donna
10. New Orleans (replaced right at the end)
11. Annabel Lee (dropped)

[SteveMacD]

So, Stevie has no aversion to doing obscure stuff, and the band has shown in a different era that they don’t have an aversion to playing obscure stuff. Then, the question still remains why people think she or the others will drop lesser known stuff when there’s nothing in their history to suggest that they will?

Oh Well, Rattlesnake Shake, Hypnotized, and Station Man are not really all that obscure, especially compared to what the Mac did with Rick Vito or what Stevie did on her last tour.

[HomerMcvie]

So, Stevie has no aversion to doing obscure stuff, and the band has shown in a different era that they don’t have an aversion to playing obscure stuff. Then, the question still remains why people think she or the others will drop lesser known stuff when there’s nothing in their history to suggest that they will?

Oh Well, Rattlesnake Shake, Hypnotized, and Station Man are not really all that obscure, especially compared to what the Mac did with Rick Vito or what Stevie did on her last tour.

It never ceases to amaze me, at how down you are with this new lineup.


You know this isn't 1987, right? Do you realize the attention span of the average person, now? 98% of people couldn't give AF about Station Man, or ANY of the other songs you listed. SURE, WE DO, but we're in the 2%, NOT the asses that they want in the freaking seats. Not the asses that are going to shell out big dough, en masse, for this debacle of a lineup.

[Storms123]

So, Stevie has no aversion to doing obscure stuff, and the band has shown in a different era that they don’t have an aversion to playing obscure stuff. Then, the question still remains why people think she or the others will drop lesser known stuff when there’s nothing in their history to suggest that they will?

Oh Well, Rattlesnake Shake, Hypnotized, and Station Man are not really all that obscure, especially compared to what the Mac did with Rick Vito or what Stevie did on her last tour.

But they aren't Stevie's songs. Stevie doing her OWN obscure stuff is one thing. Doing someone else's, when It may not be resonating with the people that are actually going to go--that's where I think she/they are going to be more prone to removing it.

BTW---I would love it if Christine put her foot down and INSISTED something from Buck Vie makes it's way into the set list!! LOL

[Storms123]

Lindsey does not yank his songs out, staples or deep cuts.

on OWTS they did replace 1 each song for the Australian leg - IKINW came out and BTLH in, Sara replaced SOTM, and TAM replaced OMH.

however Seven Wonders was completely dropped during US leg already.


I was thinking of SYW when there was quite a bit of set list maneuvering in the beginning. And yes, the set list changes during OWTS--which I thought were great replacements.

[SisterNightroad]

Did Stevie drop songs on her last tour?
Yes this was the overall setlist with all the changes:

Gold and Braid
If Anyone Falls
Stop Draggin’ My Heart Around
Belle Fleur
Gypsy (added to set 11/19/16)
Outside the Rain (dropped from 11/19/16 and resumed from 11/04/17)
Dreams (dropped from 11/19/16 and resumed from 11/04/17)
Wild Heart
Bella Donna
Annabel Lee (dropped from 11/04/2016)
Enchanted
New Orleans (dropped from 11/04/2017)
Starshine
Moonlight - A Vampire’s Dream
Stand Back
Crying in the Night
If You Were My Love
Gold Dust Woman
Edge of Seventeen
Rhiannon
Landslide (added to set 11/29/16)
Leather and Lace (dropped from 11/27/16)

[elle]

I was thinking of SYW when there was quite a bit of set list maneuvering in the beginning. And yes, the set list changes during OWTS--which I thought were great replacements.

yes. and it was always Stevie that couldn't deal with keeping her more obscure songs.

playing older / preBN era FM songs has nothing to do with Stevie because they don't affect her part of the FM setlist. and Stevie and Mick were insisting in the interviews that they cannot play more obscure songs because public will run for the bathrooms. yet now, they like to pretend those interviews (even from 2013 tour!) don't exist and the 2 of them were always the staunchest proponents of the obscure. :laugh:

Stevie's last solo tour was the only one where she was finally bold with the setlist - good for he! maybe she continues on this Mac tour too and drops Rhiannon and Dreams in favor of her deeper FM cuts. :thumbsup:

[elle]

BTW---I would love it if Christine put her foot down and INSISTED something from Buck Vie makes it's way into the set list!! LOL
yes! but you know she won't. she would have left the band already after the sh*t they pulled to Lindsey if she was not walking on eggs in this band since she re-joined.

i was really happy that she / they added Think About Me in Australia and that she and Lindsey added Hold Me at the BuckVie tour.

Hold Me was the song they supposedly kept trying to add to the set for OWTS and some previous tours and could never make it work. yet for BuckVie they had no problem whatsoever to make it work! wonder what the problem was in FM? before they threw out Lindsey i was sure Hold Me will be on 2018 FM setlist. i have no idea now, not that i even care. i would definitely not be able to listen to that song live if Neil is singing it with her, like it may happen.

[jmn3]

yes. and it was always Stevie that couldn't deal with keeping her more obscure songs.

playing older / preBN era FM songs has nothing to do with Stevie because they don't affect her part of the FM setlist. and Stevie and Mick were insisting in the interviews that they cannot play more obscure songs because public will run for the bathrooms. yet now, they like to pretend those interviews (even from 2013 tour!) don't exist and the 2 of them were always the staunchest proponents of the obscure. :laugh:

Stevie's last solo tour was the only one where she was finally bold with the setlist - good for he! maybe she continues on this Mac tour too and drops Rhiannon and Dreams in favor of her deeper FM cuts. :thumbsup:

Stevie's little dig that they couldn't go into the pre-1975 catalog because of Lindsey in their most recent CBS interview was simply nauseating. If she so loved Station Man or Rattlesnake Shake, why didn't she figure out a way to sing them (imagine her singing RS...lordy) in lieu of one of her own songs.

And she absolutely should consider shelving Dreams (although she would likely point out that SHE wrote that song and it's the only #1 that their version of Fleetwood Mac ever had so they HAVE to play it!), and that ramshackle version of Rhiannon that she's been lumbering along to for the last 20 years, and replace both with something deeper.

[David]

I don't know, all this talk about deep cuts in the next set doesn't feel realistic. These guys are going out on the road to fill arenas all winter, not to reach deep into their past (or contribute anything from their present). They have one job on this tour, and they all know it: fill arenas.

Even any songs they add from Crowded House will boil down to song recognition. They aren't going to sing a Crowded House b-side.

That stretch of time between Peter Green's classics and 1975-1977 classics will be mostly ignored. Hypnotized, Station Man, Tell Me All the Things You Do, Spare Me a Little, and so on.

But as long as we're dreaming, how about Emerald Eyes?

Thoughts?

[David]

She did a fantastic job of pulling the obscure stuff out. I loved her last tour. It was fantastic.

And back in -- 1998, was it? -- she did After the Glitter Fades, Garbo, Sleeping Angel, Enchanted, Gold and Braid, Rose Garden, and Twisted.

For her, it was really -- twisted. It was shocking. Fans were in heaven.

Last year, Bella Donna and the Wild Heart were the big shockers. Good stuff.

For me, the set list of any tour isn't important. I'm more interested in whether the performances are passionate or just phoned in. The other day on Spotify, I was listening to Lindsey's live concert at Bass Hall, and even the standard Fleetwood stuff he did was so passionate -- it was as if he were singing those songs for the first time. That's what makes a concert worth attending.

[SteveMacD]

It never ceases to amaze me, at how down you are with this new lineup.

Really? Why would that surprise you? I’ve always been a fan of all the different eras of Fleetwood Mac, and Neil Finn and Mike Campbell are certainly beyond worthy additions. I probably wouldn’t be as down with it if they had gotten subpar talents (and I was very worried/skeptical about who they’d get for second new guy), but they didn’t this time, which actually surprised me. For all they do wrong, I cannot think of better choices to bring into Fleetwood Mac.

Lindsey and Stevie were never the main attraction for me, which isn’t to say that I didn’t love what they brought to the band or that the Rumours lineup wasn’t the best overall version of the band. But, the English contingent were the primary draw for me, and I think the other versions were also great.

I don’t know enough of what went on behind the scenes to know how it all went down to have an absolute, definite opinion about what happened, but I’ve been around or a part of enough bands to know that band politics is a reality for all bands. I’m open to there being a scenario where they just wanted different things and couldn’t resolve their differences.

I also have to say that a little Lindsey goes a long way for me these days. His sui generis production style seems to have been stunted after “Go Insane.” My big gripe with LBCM is how you couldn’t really hear their voices together. Ditch the effing Fairlight already! Be old and mature! Listen to later Peter, Paul, & Mary. They might not sound as good as when they were in their prime, but their voices still had the passion in what they were singing and still sounded great together. Top 40 waved bye-bye long ago, so quit trying to make Pet Sounds. And, I get lots of bands do it, but I never want to ask if it was live or if it was Memorex during a Fleetwood Mac-related show, or worse, know the answer.

His excessive use of psychobabble for banter is brutal for me as a social worker, but even moreso as a friend of someone who has the greatest banter in rock (he has two albums of just his banter). Just say thanks for coming to the show and rock. Nobody cares. He comes off less as enlightened as he does pompous and oblivious. At least Mick waits until the show is over!

And, it’s not like we wouldn’t have gotten near note-for-note versions of IAS, Tusk, SHN, Big Love, GYOW, and probably NGBA that we’ve been hearing for decades now. Maybe a slight variation here or there, but those variations have been sketchy for me, especially Tusk. Going softer isn’t rock! I’m okay with not hearing those in lieu of other songs and having a scenario where the band can’t be on autopilot.

If anything, I’m more surprised by your reaction. I remember when you felt that SYW was basically just Buckingham Nicks II, that it wasn’t Fleetwood Mac without Christine, and that “Mystery…” was the Mac at their pinnacle. I didn’t realize you were such a Lindsey fan. If nothing else, for sixteen years, but really more like 23 years, I wanted Christine back on stage. She’s back, now, and still has a great band up there with her. Good enough reason for me.

You know this isn't 1987, right?

Yes. This time around, they got guys who’ve had legendary careers, not glorified sidemen.

Do you realize the attention span of the average person, now? 98% of people couldn't give AF about Station Man, or ANY of the other songs you listed.

I don’t think it’s that static, and I don’t think it really matters. A good show has a flow to it.

[UnwindedDreams]

Lindsey does not yank his songs out, staples or deep cuts.

on OWTS they did replace 1 each song for the Australian leg - IKINW came out and BTLH in, Sara replaced SOTM, and TAM replaced OMH.

however Seven Wonders was completely dropped during US leg already.
That's interesting about Seven Wonders. I saw them do it in January of 2015. She said during the tour that millions of people heard the song on the Coven episode.

Continuing with song removal, didn't Christine stop playing Songbird for a number of concerts because of hand pain?

[Storms123]

yes. and it was always Stevie that couldn't deal with keeping her more obscure songs.

playing older / preBN era FM songs has nothing to do with Stevie because they don't affect her part of the FM setlist. and Stevie and Mick were insisting in the interviews that they cannot play more obscure songs because public will run for the bathrooms. yet now, they like to pretend those interviews (even from 2013 tour!) don't exist and the 2 of them were always the staunchest proponents of the obscure. :laugh:

Stevie's last solo tour was the only one where she was finally bold with the setlist - good for he! maybe she continues on this Mac tour too and drops Rhiannon and Dreams in favor of her deeper FM cuts. :thumbsup:

You know she's not dropping either one of these...LOL!!!

[Storms123]

[QUOTE=UnwindedDreams;1230553]That's interesting about Seven Wonders. I saw them do it in January of 2015. She said during the tour that millions of people heard the song on the Coven episode.

[B[/B] Yes she did. I would argue Songbird does cameos throughout this tour, less so for hand pain and more so because Christine can't hit the notes anymore. May be controversial but just my opinion.

[Storms123]

That's interesting about Seven Wonders. I saw them do it in January of 2015. She said during the tour that millions of people heard the song on the Coven episode.

Continuing with song removal, didn't Christine stop playing Songbird for a number of concerts because of hand pain?



Yes she did. And I would argue Songbird has cameos throughout this tour, not because of hand pain but more so that Christine can't hit the notes anymore

[elle]

Continuing with song removal, didn't Christine stop playing Songbird for a number of concerts because of hand pain?

Songbird was not removed / dropped though. she didn't play it at some of the show, and as soon as she could handle it, it was added back in. that's different than dropping and never playing through the rest of the tour because of the perceived reception of the audience. once Seven Wonders was dropped it was not brought back again, and was not played in AUS / NZ (as far as i remember the setlists).

[Hawkeye]

[/B]

You know she's not dropping either one of these...LOL!!!

Dreams wasn’t done on her 24 KG tour other then in Australia where it replaced New Orleans. But that was like 10 our of the 70 shows.


That being said I think they’ll definitely do Dreams on this tour, I just don’t think Dreams is as unthinkable to not be played as Rhiannon. I think Dreams will sound great with Mike Campbell, breakdown and Dreams have a similar guitar tone. Sara and Gypsy are 2 hits they i really hope don’t get played.

[Storms123]

Dreams wasn’t done on her 24 KG tour other then in Australia where it replaced New Orleans. But that was like 10 our of the 70 shows.


That being said I think they’ll definitely do Dreams on this tour, I just don’t think Dreams is as unthinkable to not be played as Rhiannon. I think Dreams will sound great with Mike Campbell, breakdown and Dreams have a similar guitar tone. Sara and Gypsy are 2 hits they i really hope don’t get played.

Dreams is FM only #1---I don't think she can get away with not playing it on an "FM" tour. Just my opinion though.

[SteveMacD]

Dreams is FM only #1---I don't think she can get away with not playing it on an "FM" tour. Just my opinion though.

I have to say that I like that she largely skipped it and LBCM skipped Don’t Stop last year.

[UnwindedDreams]

Songbird was not removed / dropped though. she didn't play it at some of the show, and as soon as she could handle it, it was added back in. that's different than dropping and never playing through the rest of the tour because of the perceived reception of the audience. once Seven Wonders was dropped it was not brought back again, and was not played in AUS / NZ (as far as i remember the setlists).
I appreciate this insight. I did not know it was known that Stevie dropped Seven Wonders for the perceived audience reception. I always thought it was due to the key it was played in and the song's pace. I personally thought she sounded like she was exhausted when she sang it and had to push herself through it. To me, Sisters had no vocal standouts other than the 2013 and 10/6/14 versions at The Garden.

I would guess Songbird and Sisters of the Moon were not played at The Classic concerts because of either the time budgeted for their whole set or a desire to keep the set somewhat moving.

[elle]

I appreciate this insight. I did not know it was known that Stevie dropped Seven Wonders for the perceived audience reception. I always thought it was due to the key it was played in and the song's pace. I personally thought she sounded like she was exhausted when she sang it and had to push herself through it. To me, Sisters had no vocal standouts other than the 2013 and 10/6/14 versions at The Garden.

I would guess Songbird and Sisters of the Moon were not played at The Classic concerts because of either the time budgeted for their whole set or a desire to keep the set somewhat moving.

you are right, i don't really know why it was dropped.

they always end their festival performances with Don't Stop / on a high note, rather than their usual slow song.

SOTM was not played at the Classics because they played their Australian 2015 setlist, which had Sara, Think About Me and Bleed To Love Her.

[UnwindedDreams]

The Songbird closing with Lindsey during OWTS was so touching that I would guess the song doesn't get performed this Winter Tour. I do believe the shows will close with Silver Springs. I remember when she wanted to sing it during the Crystal Visions Tour. that tour did not reflect the CV compilation.

I think Chris will have a go at more white album numbers.

[HomerMcvie]

Really? Why would that surprise you? I’ve always been a fan of all the different eras of Fleetwood Mac, and Neil Finn and Mike Campbell are certainly beyond worthy additions. I probably wouldn’t be as down with it if they had gotten subpar talents (and I was very worried/skeptical about who they’d get for second new guy), but they didn’t this time, which actually surprised me. For all they do wrong, I cannot think of better choices to bring into Fleetwood Mac.

Lindsey and Stevie were never the main attraction for me, which isn’t to say that I didn’t love what they brought to the band or that the Rumours lineup wasn’t the best overall version of the band. But, the English contingent were the primary draw for me, and I think the other versions were also great.

I don’t know enough of what went on behind the scenes to know how it all went down to have an absolute, definite opinion about what happened, but I’ve been around or a part of enough bands to know that band politics is a reality for all bands. I’m open to there being a scenario where they just wanted different things and couldn’t resolve their differences.

I also have to say that a little Lindsey goes a long way for me these days. His sui generis production style seems to have been stunted after “Go Insane.” My big gripe with LBCM is how you couldn’t really hear their voices together. Ditch the effing Fairlight already! Be old and mature! Listen to later Peter, Paul, & Mary. They might not sound as good as when they were in their prime, but their voices still had the passion in what they were singing and still sounded great together. Top 40 waved bye-bye long ago, so quit trying to make Pet Sounds. And, I get lots of bands do it, but I never want to ask if it was live or if it was Memorex during a Fleetwood Mac-related show, or worse, know the answer.

His excessive use of psychobabble for banter is brutal for me as a social worker, but even moreso as a friend of someone who has the greatest banter in rock (he has two albums of just his banter). Just say thanks for coming to the show and rock. Nobody cares. He comes off less as enlightened as he does pompous and oblivious. At least Mick waits until the show is over!

And, it’s not like we wouldn’t have gotten near note-for-note versions of IAS, Tusk, SHN, Big Love, GYOW, and probably NGBA that we’ve been hearing for decades now. Maybe a slight variation here or there, but those variations have been sketchy for me, especially Tusk. Going softer isn’t rock! I’m okay with not hearing those in lieu of other songs and having a scenario where the band can’t be on autopilot.

If anything, I’m more surprised by your reaction. I remember when you felt that SYW was basically just Buckingham Nicks II, that it wasn’t Fleetwood Mac without Christine, and that “Mystery…” was the Mac at their pinnacle. I didn’t realize you were such a Lindsey fan. If nothing else, for sixteen years, but really more like 23 years, I wanted Christine back on stage. She’s back, now, and still has a great band up there with her. Good enough reason for me.



Yes. This time around, they got guys who’ve had legendary careers, not glorified sidemen.



I don’t think it’s that static, and I don’t think it really matters. A good show has a flow to it.
I don't have time to respond to a book. I wish I did.

I get it that you've appreciated many lineups, as have I? But again, this isn't 30 years ago. They're a LEGACY act now, and most(IMO) of those tickets sales are for THE LEGACY. The FIVE fireflies. It's too late for reinvention now. That's only cheapening the brand, and how it will be remembered.

Lindsey does babble on, I will give you that. Regurgitating the same old spiel. It wears on me, too. BUT, I allow him that, if I can allow an old fool to twirl around like an idiot.

I hated SYW, and still hate SYW. I like maybe 4-5 songs, and that's being generous. Rumours band without Christine is like....well.....SYW(crap).

Lindsey was always my second favorite(in the past decade or so), after Chris, UNTIL the Bob Welch HOF story. I still held her up there, but began having serious doubts. After Lindsey's firing, I'm over her. "Super Woman"? Company shill now....I've never been more disappointed in a human being in my life, than her just sitting back and taking his firing.

AGAIN, it's to late for reinvention. YES, YOUR GBV AND BOB can reinvent themselves until they're covered with dirt, and good for them. But this ain't no indie band. They needed to end their legacy as the legacy that really defined them.

[sodascouts]

"Destiny Rules" and "Running Through the Garden" were dropped from the SYW tour rather quickly.

The fact is that despite the new narrative, those who remember the interviews where Stevie talked about how it was a bad idea to add more than four songs from Rumours during the 1977 tour know that it's simply not true that she's been gung-ho about taking risks with the FM setlist, despite what she's done on her own tours.

Additional thoughts on the topic....

I believe they will indeed play "Station Man." Stevie made an effort to bring it up (although she embarrassed herself with her inaccurate pegging of it as a Christine song) and now with Danny Kirwan's death, it's especially relevant.

"Oh Well" will be there, of course, but that was there with Lindsey, despite the collective amnesia about doing old songs with him in the band.

I think they will probably do "Black Magic Woman" and maybe one more old song, but I doubt they'll do more than four. I doin't think they'll drop them. Neil Finn needs something to do that's not a Lindsey song. He brings nothing Mac-related to the table unless they do new music, which will presumably be performed.

I'm sure they'll do "Don't Dream It's Over" and "Stop Draggin' My Heart Around" with Mike Campbell on vocals, the latter probably preceded by several minutes of Stevie talking about how Tom Petty's death affected her personally. This speech will probably become longer and longer as the tour progresses, until it reaches the double digits.

"Stand Back" will perhaps also find its way into the setlist again. As to whether they'll do any more solo songs in addition to those two... perhaps one more, but I doubt any more than that.

It would be a pleasant surprise if she pulls out a never-before-performed Fleetwood Mac song, unless it's a song where Lindsey's part is prominent. Then, it would be lame.

They need to ditch any signature Lindsey/Stevie songs like "Silver Springs", "Gypsy", and "Landslide." Unfortunately, I fear they'll keep "Landslide" with Mike Campbell, and Stevie will do some icky kind of "cuddle Mike from behind as if he's Lindsey" thing, reinforcing the whole "I've replaced Lindsey" angle.

"World Turning" and Mick's extended drum solo, complete with him prancing about and spitting for an extended period from center stage, will no doubt be featured once more.

I'm sure there will be a shameless performance of "The Chain."

Obviously they'll do the big hits including "Go Your Own Way" despite it being a Lindsey song and of course all of Stevie and Christine's hits, including "Don't Stop."

I think "Songbird" will never be performed again.

[bwboy]

"Destiny Rules" and "Running Through the Garden" were dropped from the SYW tour rather quickly.

The fact is that despite the new narrative, those who remember the interviews where Stevie talked about how it was a bad idea to add more than four songs from Rumours during the 1977 tour know that it's simply not true that she's been gung-ho about taking risks with the FM setlist, despite what she's done on her own tours.

Additional thoughts on the topic....

I believe they will indeed play "Station Man." Stevie made an effort to bring it up (although she embarrassed herself with her inaccurate pegging of it as a Christine song) and now with Danny Kirwan's death, it's especially relevant.

"Oh Well" will be there, of course, but that was there with Lindsey, despite the collective amnesia about doing old songs with him in the band.

I think they will probably do "Black Magic Woman" and maybe one more old song, but I doubt they'll do more than four. I doin't think they'll drop them. Neil Finn needs something to do that's not a Lindsey song. He brings nothing Mac-related to the table unless they do new music, which will presumably be performed.

I'm sure they'll do "Don't Dream It's Over" and "Stop Draggin' My Heart Around" with Mike Campbell on vocals, the latter probably preceded by several minutes of Stevie talking about how Tom Petty's death affected her personally. This speech will probably become longer and longer as the tour progresses, until it reaches the double digits.

"Stand Back" will perhaps also find its way into the setlist again. As to whether they'll do any more solo songs in addition to those two... perhaps one more, but I doubt any more than that.

It would be a pleasant surprise if she pulls out a never-before-performed Fleetwood Mac song, unless it's a song where Lindsey's part is prominent. Then, it would be lame.

They need to ditch any signature Lindsey/Stevie songs like "Silver Springs", "Gypsy", and "Landslide." Unfortunately, I fear they'll keep "Landslide" with Mike Campbell, and Stevie will do some icky kind of "cuddle Mike from behind as if he's Lindsey" thing, reinforcing the whole "I've replaced Lindsey" angle.

"World Turning" and Mick's extended drum solo, complete with him prancing about and spitting for an extended period from center stage, will no doubt be featured once more.

I'm sure there will be a shameless performance of "The Chain."

Obviously they'll do the big hits including "Go Your Own Way" despite it being a Lindsey song and of course all of Stevie and Christine's hits, including "Don't Stop."

I think "Songbird" will never be performed again.

This is a well written post and you make compelling points. I don't agree that Landslide and especially Gypsy are considered Stevie and Lindsey signature songs, though. Silver Springs, yes, Landslide and Gypsy, no. That's a matter of opinion, though, no wrong and no right.

I think Lindsey may not have ever wanted to do Oh Well again since the Dance, the last time he sang it was for the Mirage tour. It's a song I could do without on the set list, but I don't hate it.

Curious why you think Christine won't do Songbird? Because she isn't playing keyboards like she used to? Maybe they could use guitar instead. I would be ok without it, but it's a little hard for me to imagine she won't perform it.

I do think Stevie will pull out at least one rarely performed song, either Angel, That's Alright, or I Don't Want any to Know.

[sodascouts]

I think Lindsey may not have ever wanted to do Oh Well again since the Dance, the last time he sang it was for the Mirage tour. It's a song I could do without on the set list, but I don't hate it.

They played "Oh Well" as recently as 2009, actually.



Curious why you think Christine won't do Songbird? Because she isn't playing keyboards like she used to? Maybe they could use guitar instead. I would be ok without it, but it's a little hard for me to imagine she won't perform it.


When they dropped "Songbird" during the last tour, I kept hoping it was temporary and would come back when the "hand injury" healed, but it never did. It seemed to me that Christine just didn't want to do it anymore; the hand injury allowed her to break that tradition and once the tradition had been broken, she didn't want to bring it back.

Maybe Christine didn't want to do "Songbird" because of difficulty with the playing, or maybe it was because her voice is out there all alone during that song and there's no disguising any missteps. While those things can be fixed with changed arrangements, I think they'll just go the route of leaving it off entirely. I hope I'm wrong.


I do think Stevie will pull out at least one rarely performed song, either Angel, That's Alright, or I Don't Want any to Know.

Lindsey has a prominent role in the latter two; the first started out as a BN song. It would also be pretty ironic to do IDWTK since it is the only Rumours song that has not been performed live.

What would really be appropriate would be to do "No Questions Asked" or "Paper Doll" - those are strong post-Lindsey songs and they've never been done before, to my knowledge.

Regarding older songs, apparently it's a done deal that they are doing "Rattlesnake Shake." I have no idea why Stevie is down with this when she was against "Come." Does she not know what it is about?? So gross.

If I were Neil, I would be "Um, Mick, I really would rather not sing about you doing that...how about Heart Beat Like A Hammer...Loved Another Woman...Stop Messin' Round... Love That Burns... I'll even just stand over here silently and we can all play Fighting for Madge... anything but Rattlesnake Shake...."

[SteveMacD]

Regarding older songs, apparently it's a done deal that they are doing "Rattlesnake Shake." I have no idea why Stevie is down with this when she was against "Come." Does she not know what it is about?? So gross.

Maybe the visual image of one of the great loves of her life spanking it doesn’t repulse her. :shrug:

If I were Neil, I would be "Um, Mick, I really would rather not sing about you doing that...how about Heart Beat Like A Hammer...Loved Another Woman...Stop Messin' Round... Love That Burns... I'll even just stand over here silently and we can all play Fighting for Madge... anything but Rattlesnake Shake...."

I’m betting Mike sings it for some reason.

[Angel75]

Regarding older songs, apparently it's a done deal that they are doing "Rattlesnake Shake." I have no idea why Stevie is down with this when she was against "Come." Does she not know what it is about?? So gross.

I think Stevie was appalled with Come as she believed it was written about her, despite Lindsey saying it wasn't.

[Angel75]

Maybe the visual image of one of the great loves of her life spanking it doesn’t repulse her. :shrug

Laugh out loud

[sodascouts]

I’m betting Mike sings it for some reason.

Did he sing "Rattlesnake Shake" the last time they performed it?

Anyway, to sum up, the songs I think they will do, in no particular order:

Don't Dream It's Over
Stop Draggin' My Heart Around
Stand Back
Oh Well
Rattlesnake Shake
Station Man
Black Magic Woman
The Chain
Go Your Own Way
Don't Stop
World Turning
Dreams
Rhiannon
Sara
Sisters of the Moon
Gold Dust Woman
Say You Love Me
You Make Lovin' Fun
Everywhere
Over My Head
[I don't want it, but I fear they'll do Landslide and/or Gypsy, esp. Landslide]
[Two new songs if they release any]
[one never-before-performed-FM song or rarely performed FM song from Stevie - I would rather No Questions Asked or Paper Doll but they will probably do Angel if they do this]
[Maybe another Stevie solo song and/or Petty cover]

[SteveMacD]

Did he sing "Rattlesnake Shake" the last time they performed it?

The last time Fleetwood Mac performed it, Rick Vito sang it. The only Peter Green songs I know Mike has played publicly are Oh Well (Tom with TPATH, Mike with Dirty Knobs) and Man Of The World with Neil Finn (Neil).

I just can’t imagine Neil singing it and I can’t imagine Mike not singing it.

[dreamsunwind]

I think Stevie was appalled with Come as she believed it was written about her, despite Lindsey saying it wasn't.

I don't think she actually thought it was about her, she probably just thought it was too sexual. She doesn't like Tusk either for that same reason ('real savage like').

[dreamsunwind]

This is a well written post and you make compelling points. I don't agree that Landslide and especially Gypsy are considered Stevie and Lindsey signature songs, though. Silver Springs, yes, Landslide and Gypsy, no. That's a matter of opinion, though, no wrong and no right.

I think Lindsey may not have ever wanted to do Oh Well again since the Dance, the last time he sang it was for the Mirage tour. It's a song I could do without on the set list, but I don't hate it.


I think Landslide comes across as very S&L esque song because of what it was written about, the famous guitar parts on that song were written by him and how the means of performing it with just her and her guitarist, very kind of close and intimate started with them. And it's always easy for me at least to tell when he's playing or when it's someone else. BUT she's performed it so many times now with so many different people it's kind of lost that.
Gypsy on the other hand, also for what the song is about and the beautiful guitar on it, but the thing about Gypsy for me at least is that I've absolutely hated every single live version she does of it with her solo band. I don't know why the heck Waddy butchers it like that. I still shudder when I think about the WH tour version of it. If they do perform it on this tour I hope that Mike and Neil can figure out SOMETHING better than that. Lindsey's guitar/playing is very unique and special for that song yes but that god awful keyboard heavy, altered guitar riff literally ruins the whole song.

[sodascouts]

The last time Fleetwood Mac performed it, Rick Vito sang it. The only Peter Green songs I know Mike has played publicly are Oh Well (Tom with TPATH, Mike with Dirty Knobs) and Man Of The World with Neil Finn (Neil).

I just can’t imagine Neil singing it and I can’t imagine Mike not singing it.

Sorry, I misread your initial post as speculating that Mick would sing it. Now I understand!

[AncientQueen]

Regarding older songs, apparently it's a done deal that they are doing "Rattlesnake Shake." I have no idea why Stevie is down with this when she was against "Come." Does she not know what it is about??
They should bring Harold the Dildo back as a full member.

[HomerMcvie]

They should bring Harold the Dildo back as a full member.

Now there's a band member replacement I can get behind.

[SteveMacD]

They should bring Harold the Dildo back as a full member.

IIRC, Harold was quite a bit more than a full member.

[Angel75]

IIRC, Harold was quite a bit more than a full member.

I wonder if there is a photo anywhere of Harold, that may be the only thing that would could make me laugh out loud when I now see a photo of a Fleetwood Mac member

[bwboy]

Drop:
All of Lindsey’s songs except GYOW, and possibly SHN.

Wow SteveMacD, you sure called it about Second Hand News!

Deep cuts (songs never performed or only performed once) by Christine and Stevie would include:

Angel
Oh Daddy
Sugar Daddy
Straight Back
As Long As You Follow
No Questions Asked
Over and Over
I Don't Want to Know
Isn't It Midnight
Crystal
Save Me
Mystified
When I See You Again
Wish You Were Here
Hold Me
Welcome to the Room Sara
Love in Store
Storms
Beautiful Child
Never Make Me Cry
Freedom
Skies the Limit

I didn't include songs from Say You Will, the EP, or Buck/Vie. Obviously they're going to want to have Neil sing, but I say except for singing Go Your Own Way and Lindsey's parts on duets or harmonies, he'd be better utilized singing Man of the World, Oh Well, Hypnotized, and Sentimental Lady. I have a feeling I'm going to be disappointed, though :(

[HomerMcvie]

Sentimental Lady? I'll never believe they'll do a Bob Welch song! :mad:

[FM77]

I think Stevie confirmed they were doing it. How could they not? It’s arguably the best pop song of the 1980s. You don’t have THAT guy in the band and not do THAT song.

What about I GOT YOU from Split Enz? Really good song.

[BombaySapphire3]

What about I GOT YOU from Split Enz? Really good song.

I wonder if Neil even performs that one anymore..It has such a youthful of it's time energy to it that it's difficult to imagine some very elderly folks croaking along to it.

[StevieandChris]

Wow SteveMacD, you sure called it about Second Hand News!

Deep cuts (songs never performed or only performed once) by Christine and Stevie would include:

Angel
Oh Daddy
Sugar Daddy
Straight Back
As Long As You Follow
No Questions Asked
Over and Over
I Don't Want to Know
Isn't It Midnight
Crystal
Save Me
Mystified
When I See You Again
Wish You Were Here
Hold Me
Welcome to the Room Sara
Love in Store
Storms
Beautiful Child
Never Make Me Cry
Freedom
Skies the Limit

I didn't include songs from Say You Will, the EP, or Buck/Vie. Obviously they're going to want to have Neil sing, but I say except for singing Go Your Own Way and Lindsey's parts on duets or harmonies, he'd be better utilized singing Man of the World, Oh Well, Hypnotized, and Sentimental Lady. I have a feeling I'm going to be disappointed, though :(

Angel - PLEASE!
Oh Daddy - PLEASE!
Sugar Daddy - No thanks!
Straight Back - PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE!
As Long As You Follow - PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE!
No Questions Asked - No thanks!
Over and Over - PLEASE!
I Don't Want to Know - PLEASE!
Isn't It Midnight - PLEASE!
Crystal - Sure, why not!
Save Me - Sure, why not!
Mystified - PLEASE!
When I See You Again - No thanks!
Wish You Were Here - Sure, why not!
Hold Me - PLEASE!
Welcome to the Room Sara - No thanks!
Love in Store - PLEASE!
Storms - PLEASE!
Beautiful Child - PLEASE!
Never Make Me Cry - Sure, why not!
Freedom - PLEASE!
Skies the Limit - Sure, why not!

[Kubrick2788]

Sentimental Lady would be a perfect choice...especially for Neil to sing. So that means it's way at the bottom of the list. Could be an easy duet with Christine...plus it's great. Sigh. Guess it'll be Rattlesnake Shake then.

[bwboy]

Angel - PLEASE!
Oh Daddy - PLEASE!
Sugar Daddy - No thanks!
Straight Back - PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE!
As Long As You Follow - PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE!
No Questions Asked - No thanks!
Over and Over - PLEASE!
I Don't Want to Know - PLEASE!
Isn't It Midnight - PLEASE!
Crystal - Sure, why not!
Save Me - Sure, why not!
Mystified - PLEASE!
When I See You Again - No thanks!
Wish You Were Here - Sure, why not!
Hold Me - PLEASE!
Welcome to the Room Sara - No thanks!
Love in Store - PLEASE!
Storms - PLEASE!
Beautiful Child - PLEASE!
Never Make Me Cry - Sure, why not!
Freedom - PLEASE!
Skies the Limit - Sure, why not!

StevieandChris, your response made me laugh so much- I think PLEASE!, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE!, No thanks!, and Sure, why not! should be the way everyone answers which songs they'd like to hear :]

[bwboy]

Wow SteveMacD, you sure called it about Second Hand News!

Deep cuts (songs never performed or only performed once) by Christine and Stevie would include:

Angel
Oh Daddy
Sugar Daddy
Straight Back
As Long As You Follow
No Questions Asked
Over and Over
I Don't Want to Know
Isn't It Midnight
Crystal
Save Me
Mystified
When I See You Again
Wish You Were Here
Hold Me
Welcome to the Room Sara
Love in Store
Storms
Beautiful Child
Never Make Me Cry
Freedom
Skies the Limit

I didn't include songs from Say You Will, the EP, or Buck/Vie. Obviously they're going to want to have Neil sing, but I say except for singing Go Your Own Way and Lindsey's parts on duets or harmonies, he'd be better utilized singing Man of the World, Oh Well, Hypnotized, and Sentimental Lady. I have a feeling I'm going to be disappointed, though :(

I left off That's Alright.

[StevieandChris]

I left off That's Alright.

This gets a PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE! too!

[StevieandChris]

StevieandChris, your response made me laugh so much- I think PLEASE!, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE!, No thanks!, and Sure, why not! should be the way everyone answers which songs they'd like to hear :]

:]:D :) :D:angel:

[bombaysaffires]

Sentimental Lady? I'll never believe they'll do a Bob Welch song! :mad:

Especially since it was Lindsey's arranging/producing and playing on the redone version that made it a hit single. :nod: :eek:

[SteveMacD]

Especially since it was Lindsey's arranging/producing and playing on the redone version that made it a hit single. :nod: :eek:

I became a fan in 1987 and checked out “Bare Trees” from the library. While I grew up hearing the solo version, I immediately recognized the song.

[Angel75]

I wonder if Neil even performs that one anymore..It has such a youthful of it's time energy to it that it's difficult to imagine some very elderly folks croaking along to it.

To answer your question and before SugarMouse bombards us with YouTube clips, as far as I'm aware Neil last performed I Got You with Split Enz in 2009

Would be a great inclusion in a FM set as its a great rocker, that or History Never Repeats....DDIO is a yawnfest

[bwboy]

Oct 3 is almost here!

[jcalzaretta]

So many comments.

No to Don't Dream it's Over.

Yes to Over My Head with Stevie singing chorus with Christine. I love when the two of them sing together and MAYBE without LB, we get MORE of this. That would be heaven to me. [I find the version of Oh Daddy with Stevie's vocals a missed opportunity. Damn that was gorgeous.

Yes to Station Man. And I would love Why and Spare Me a Little. And maybe we can see how Neil can do with I Loved Another Woman.

No to 4 Stevie solo songs. I presume Standback will come back but they played that so often that many probably think of that as Fleetwood Mac anyway. But that is it.

I understand SHN was played at the I Heart Radio. How was Neil on lead for that? I need to see if I can stomach him on too much of LB led songs.

[gldstwmn]

I wonder if there is a photo anywhere of Harold, that may be the only thing that would could make me laugh out loud when I now see a photo of a Fleetwood Mac member

To be clear Harold was a fake member. :lol:

[gldstwmn]

What about I GOT YOU from Split Enz? Really good song.

I love that song. I bet they can do it justice. Also don't know if this has been posted but there are some set list spoilers from Mike on Rolling Stone's website.

[Buster]

I understand SHN was played at the I Heart Radio. How was Neil on lead for that? I need to see if I can stomach him on too much of LB led songs.

Mildly acceptable at best.

Based on the Campbell interview today, DDIO and Free Fallin’ and at least one pre-Rumours song is in.

Looks like Stevie’s songs will be:

Dreams
Gypsy
Rhiannon
Stand Back
Gold Dust Woman
Landslide
Free Fallin’
Maybe one more?

[jbrownsjr]

Mildly acceptable at best.

Based on the Campbell interview today, DDIO and Free Fallin’ and at least one pre-Rumours song is in.

Looks like Stevie’s songs will be:

Dreams
Gypsy
Rhiannon
Stand Back
Gold Dust Woman
Landslide
Free Fallin’
Maybe one more?

I"m bored reading this.

[Hawkeye]

Mildly acceptable at best.

Based on the Campbell interview today, DDIO and Free Fallin’ and at least one pre-Rumours song is in.

Looks like Stevie’s songs will be:

Dreams
Gypsy
Rhiannon
Stand Back
Gold Dust Woman
Landslide
Free Fallin’
Maybe one more?


She’ll be singing more then that for sure. Also I’m thinking/hoping Stand a back won’t be played. I bet we get between 9 and 11 Stevie lead vocal songs.

[Macfan4life]

After reading all the guesses and speculation, the only thing I can say is what Ozzy used to say to the audience after his first song in concert.
IS EVERYBODY HIGH?

[SteveMacD]

Mildly acceptable at best.

Based on the Campbell interview today, DDIO and Free Fallin’ and at least one pre-Rumours song is in.

Looks like Stevie’s songs will be:

Dreams
Gypsy
Rhiannon
Stand Back
Gold Dust Woman
Landslide
Free Fallin’
Maybe one more?
Stop Dragging My Heart Around

[Buster]

Stop Dragging My Heart Around

Do you think so? Seems like Free Fallin’ is the TP tribute some Mick was talking about.

As for the comment above that Stevie will sing 10-11 singes, I’m not so sure.

Figure CM sings (minimum)
YMLF
Little Lies
Everywhere
Something from Tusk
Something from the white album

Plus:
The Chain
SHN
Pre-Rumours era song
GYOW
Tusk and/or World Turning
Don’t Stop
DDIO
FF

That is 13 songs and I’m sure CM will sing more than 5. I’m
Not sure how many total songs there will be but I doubt there will 23 or more.

In fact, I predict the setlist is what I wrote earlier about Stevie’s songs plus my list in this post plus one additional CM song. If Stevie does a surprise song, it will be in place of SB.

[bwboy]

I'm completely ok with Don't Dream It's Over being in the set list- I think Christine and Stevie will have great harmonies on it, plus it's a great song anyway. I would prefer Free Fallin' if Mike sang it rather than Stevie. I think Stop Dragging My Heart would be interesting IF Stevie and Christine sang it, like when Stevie and Chrissie Hynde sang it on the 24 Karat Gold tour. That would be a great twist to the song and their on stage dynamic. Too bad it won't happen :distress:

[SteveMacD]

Do you think so? Seems like Free Fallin’ is the TP tribute some Mick was talking about.

Stevie talked about them doing it. I don’t think SDMHA would be considered the TP tribute song, since it was the big hit on her album.

[Macfan4life]

I'm completely ok with Don't Dream It's Over being in the set list- I think Christine and Stevie will have great harmonies on it, plus it's a great song anyway. I would prefer Free Fallin' if Mike sang it rather than Stevie. I think Stop Dragging My Heart would be interesting IF Stevie and Christine sang it, like when Stevie and Chrissie Hynde sang it on the 24 Karat Gold tour. That would be a great twist to the song and their on stage dynamic. Too bad it won't happen :distress:
Those are good ideas. Free Fallin can easily be transformed into a duet which is better than either singing the entire song.
A good tribute would be Insider. But its an unknown to the casual fan.

[SteveMacD]

Those are good ideas. Free Fallin can easily be transformed into a duet which is better than either singing the entire song.
A good tribute would be Insider. But its an unknown to the casual fan.

Stevie couldn’t sing that one anymore. She couldn’t do the faux-Emmylou anymore.

[AncientQueen]

What do they play:
The Chain
Dreams
Don't dream it's over
Rhiannon
Free Fallin
Little Lies
Stop Draggin my heart around/Leather and Lace
Second Hand News
Gypsy
Everywhere
Oh Well
You make loving fun
Gold Dust Woman
World Turning (with a 10 minutes solo from Mick)

Encore:
Don't Stop
Go Your Own Way
Landslide/Songbird

and then some. I doubt that they will play 23 songs.

[Macfan4life]

No one loved Petty more than me but I don't think its appropriate to do a Petty tribute years after his death in the middle of a Fleetwood Mac concert. If anything of Petty is played, its a tribute to Mike Campbell who joined the band and not Tom Petty.

[aleuzzi]

I"m bored reading this.

Agreed. I'm so bored I could bite myself just so I might feel something.

[FM77]

Stop Dragging My Heart Around

They are not doing that one. She played it for over a year on her solo tour with CH. Free Fallin' is the TP song.

[SteveMacD]

They are not doing that one. She played it for over a year on her solo tour with CH. Free Fallin' is the TP song.

Again, I don’t think it would be done as “the TP song” since it was on her album.

[jbrownsjr]

Agreed. I'm so bored I could bite myself just so I might feel something.

I just stabbed myself and that was so much more exciting than hearing Dreams again. And the bill was less, too!

[SteveMacD]

I"m bored reading this.

Any moreso than you would have been?

The band has been on autopilot since the SYW tour. The sad truth is Christine coming out of retirement was the most interesting thing to happen to the band in a decade. They went from being an oldies act to being an oldies act with the full lineup!

ETA: If they hadn’t parted ways with Lindsey, we would have had these plus two to four other songs:

The Chain
World Turning

SYLM
YMLF
Everywhere
Don’t Stop
Little Lies
Songbird

Dreams
Rhiannon
Gold Dust Woman
Landslide
Gypsy

SHN
I’m So Afraid
Tusk
Big Love
NGBA
GYOW

[jbrownsjr]

Any moreso than you would have been?

The band has been on autopilot since the SYW tour. The sad truth is Christine coming out of retirement was the most interesting thing to happen to the band in a decade. They went from being an oldies act to being an oldies act with the full lineup!

The SYW tour at least had new music. Thanks to LB rallying the troops.

Christine coming back we got to hear her songs. Which was a pure delight after 15 years. Little Lies w/ Lindsey for first time. Everywhere, SYLM, YMLF with a huge cheer. Stripped down Over My Head and Don't Stop (she actually solo'd 16 bars or so... Songbird w/ LB.

And they played SOTM and Seven Wonders. I Know I'm Not Wrong That was awesome.

I will agree 100%. Had they toured with LB and NOT changed the set. I would probably be waiting for BuckVie II. Time pending...


On the Dance, I loved Christine's beautiful piano intro for Rhiannon and SS. The acoustic set of Go Insane and Big Love. TemP One, Sweet Girl, Demon, Bleed.. They did the long cool version of Not That Funny.

But now, they just need a new album more than anything. THEY NEED NEW MUSIC. That's what makes the hits so interesting because they ignite the crowd after some new material. That's what happened at BuckVie. And most of the fans had the BuckVie album.

I do not want to hear Neil or Mike's material. No more than I wanted to hear any of Rick's album or Billy's. Although I loved Tear it Up because it was on I'm Not Me.

BTW... had Canton been on a different day of the week (a weekend day), I would have gone to that LB show.

[SteveMacD]

But now, they just need a new album more than anything. THEY NEED NEW MUSIC.

Maybe this change will eventually result in new music.

I do not want to hear Neil or Mike's material. No more than I wanted to hear any of Rick's album or Billy's. Although I loved Tear it Up because it was on I'm Not Me.

There’s a big difference there, though. Neil and Mike have timeless iconic hits. DDIO was a given. You can’t put that guy in the band and not do that song. As for the Mike/TP stuff, I’m thinking it’ll just be FF and SDMHA, both of which Stevie has recorded.

[BigAl84]

Maybe this change will eventually result in new music.



There’s a big difference there, though. Neil and Mike have timeless iconic hits. DDIO was a given. You can’t put that guy in the band and not do that song. As for the Mike/TP stuff, I’m thinking it’ll just be FF and SDMHA, both of which Stevie has recorded.

Hahah what? you mean their new cover of Free Fallin' doesn't count as new music? It will be a moment.

[BigAl84]

Again, I don’t think it would be done as “the TP song” since it was on her album.

That's a real stretch. Free Falling is a Tom Petty song and the whole world knows that first. Hardly anybody is going to know nor care that she covered it twenty years ago for a soundtrack and had it on the third disc of a boxed set.

Quote me now. If FF is done on this tour, it will include a self indulgent intro story that somehow turns into a Stevie story, not a Tom story.

[jbrownsjr]

That's a real stretch. Free Falling is a Tom Petty song and the whole world knows that first. Hardly anybody is going to know nor care that she covered it twenty years ago for a soundtrack and had it on the third disc of a boxed set.

Quote me now. If FF is done on this tour, it will include a self indulgent intro story that somehow turns into a Stevie story, not a Tom story.

This next song is called Free Fallin. Like Prince, who had spent the best 15 minutes of his life with me. I had spent a lot of time with Tom. And I told Tom, this is my song. I have to cover this song. I want it. And he gladly gave it to me because I told him it was my song. And he didn't argue. I'm not the boss here in Fleetwood Mac, but really, I'm the boss. Because when Mick doesn't give me what I want, I threaten to quit and do my solo career. And Mike is new, so he has to listen to me.. hahahahaha That's when I told Tom, I don't really like to write anymore, so I want this song. 5 more minutes.... of blabbing...

people running back from the bathroom...

........... and this is called Free Fallin.... ok Christine, you can speak now..

Christine.. uh 1.. uh2........

[HomerMcvie]

This next song is called Free Fallin. Like Prince, who had spent the best 15 minutes of his life with me. I had spent a lot of time with Tom. And I told Tom, this is my song. I have to cover this song. I want it. And he gladly gave it to me because I told him it was my song. And he didn't argue. I'm not the boss here in Fleetwood Mac, but really, I'm the boss. Because when Mick doesn't give me what I want, I threaten to quit and do my solo career. And Mike is new, so he has to listen to me.. hahahahaha That's when I told Tom, I don't really like to write anymore, so I want this song. 5 more minutes.... of blabbing...

people running back from the bathroom...

........... and this is called Free Fallin.... ok Christine, you can speak now..

Christine.. uh 1.. uh2........
$tevie, i$ that ewe?

[aleuzzi]

There’s a big difference there, though. Neil and Mike have timeless iconic hits. DDIO was a given. You can’t put that guy in the band and not do that song.

Then they shouldn't have put him in the band.

[Buster]

You can’t put that guy in the band and not do that song. i

Of course you can. It’s not a Fleetwood Mac song. If you want to showcase Finn, then write a new song with the band. FM singing DDIO is one of the craziest things this band has done.

[Storms123]

There’s a big difference there, though. Neil and Mike have timeless iconic hits. DDIO was a given. You can’t put that guy in the band and not do that song. As for the Mike/TP stuff, I’m thinking it’ll just be FF and SDMHA, both of which Stevie has recorded.[/QUOTE]

I kind of disagree with this. This is Fleetwood Mac tour. People expect to hear FM songs. If you are going to put these guys in a band and want to hear their stuff,record new music (they won’t. Stevie said it doesn’t sell). Also, no one is a bigger TP fan than me, but why on earth are they doing a tribute to him within the context of a FM concert. Just because he was a friend of Stevie’s and she hired his out of work guitarist? Where’s the Danny Kirwan tribute, that’s a bit more fitting.

[jbrownsjr]

There’s a big difference there, though. Neil and Mike have timeless iconic hits. DDIO was a given. You can’t put that guy in the band and not do that song. As for the Mike/TP stuff, I’m thinking it’ll just be FF and SDMHA, both of which Stevie has recorded.

I kind of disagree with this. This is Fleetwood Mac tour. People expect to hear FM songs. If you are going to put these guys in a band and want to hear their stuff,record new music (they won’t. Stevie said it doesn’t sell). Also, no one is a bigger TP fan than me, but why on earth are they doing a tribute to him within the context of a FM concert. Just because he was a friend of Stevie’s and she hired his out of work guitarist? Where’s the Danny Kirwan tribute, that’s a bit more fitting.[/QUOTE]

A Danny Kirwan tribute might happen if they play Station Man.

[sodascouts]

A Danny Kirwan tribute might happen if they play Station Man.

That would be nice, although without a rambling intro by Stevie, it'll no doubt be a lot shorter.

Speaking of more appropriate tributes - how about a tribute to Bob Welch?

[SteveMacD]

That's a real stretch. Free Falling is a Tom Petty song and the whole world knows that first. Hardly anybody is going to know nor care that she covered it twenty years ago for a soundtrack and had it on the third disc of a boxed set.

Quote me now. If FF is done on this tour, it will include a self indulgent intro story that somehow turns into a Stevie story, not a Tom story.

I was talking about SDMHA, not FF. I think they'll do both songs, but SDMHA won't be part of a TP tribute, since that was on her album and was her biggest "solo" hit.

Just based on what Mike has said, I have no doubt we'll get a cringe-worthy TP tribute from Stevie with FF.

[SteveMacD]

Of course you can. It’s not a Fleetwood Mac song. If you want to showcase Finn, then write a new song with the band. FM singing DDIO is one of the craziest things this band has done.

At the first Fleetwood Mac show, they played "The Supernatural," which Peter recorded with the Bluesbreakers. Mick, Jeremy, and Bob Brunning were not on the original, and it wasn't a Fleetwood Mac song.

When Christine joined, they did "I'd Rather Go Blind," "Get Like You Used To Be," and "Crazy 'Bout You, Baby," which were either Chicken Shack or solo.

When Lindsey and Stevie joined, they did "Don't Let Me Down Again" and (briefly) "Frozen Love."

When Billy was in the band, they did "Tear It Up" and "The Bigger The Love."

When Dave Mason was in the band, they did "We Just Disagree," "Only You Know and I Know," "Feelin' Alright," and "Dear Mr. Fantasy."

ETA: The band has also done "Stand Back," "Go Insane," and HAEWAFY, which were also not Fleetwood Mac songs.

How is doing "Don't Dream It's Over" any crazier, or even slightly out of character?

[jbrownsjr]

At the first Fleetwood Mac show, they played "The Supernatural," which Peter recorded with the Bluesbreakers. Mick, Jeremy, and Bob Brunning were not on the original, and it wasn't a Fleetwood Mac song.

When Christine joined, they did "I'd Rather Go Blind," "Get Like You Used To Be," and "Crazy 'Bout You, Baby," which were either Chicken Shack or solo.

When Lindsey and Stevie joined, they did "Don't Let Me Down Again" and (briefly) "Frozen Love."

When Billy was in the band, they did "Tear It Up" and "The Bigger The Love."

When Dave Mason was in the band, they did "We Just Disagree," "Only You Know and I Know," "Feelin' Alright," and "Dear Mr. Fantasy."

ETA: The band has also done "Stand Back," "Go Insane," and HAEWAFY, which were also not Fleetwood Mac songs.

How is doing "Don't Dream It's Over" any crazier, or even slightly out of character?

Did they ever do any Welch material that wasn't FM?

And.... The Bigger The Love!!! I couldn't think of that!! Nice one..

[SteveMacD]

I kind of disagree with this. This is Fleetwood Mac tour. People expect to hear FM songs. If you are going to put these guys in a band and want to hear their stuff,record new music (they won’t. Stevie said it doesn’t sell). Also, no one is a bigger TP fan than me, but why on earth are they doing a tribute to him within the context of a FM concert. Just because he was a friend of Stevie’s and she hired his out of work guitarist? Where’s the Danny Kirwan tribute, that’s a bit more fitting.

They tried using relative unknowns with Billy and Rick, and it only worked on that first tour because the band was promoting a new hit album. However, when that lineup made its own album, Billy and Rick ultimately proved that they couldn’t be the creative driving force the band needs. Nor could they effectively overcome the specter of Lindsey.

Obviously, this tour doesn’t have the benefit of a new hit album, so they needed to put in internationally known musicians who have their own public images to make up for the parting with Lindsey. People won’t expect Mike Campbell or Neill Finn to be Lindsey Buckingham. Compare that to 1987 when they initially dressed Billy up like Lindsey for that first press conference and had him play a white Les Paul Custom.

As for a Tom Petty tribute, it would become the elephant in the room to not do something, with Mike and Stevie up there, and around the anniversary of Tom’s passing. At least it’s coming from a genuine place. Tributes to Danny and especially Bob would be nice and in order, but Danny wasn’t an especially endearing character and Bob may have burned one too many bridges.

[SteveMacD]

Did they ever do any Welch material that wasn't FM?

Maybe. I’ve only seen only one boot from the FG tour, although they also did Dragonfly and Lay It All Down on TV.

Tell Me All the Things You Do
Future Games
Morning Rain
Woman of 1000 Years
Black Magic Woman
Get Like You Used to Be
Homeward Bound
Trinity
Child of Mine
Oh Well
Whole Lotta Shakin' Goin' On

[aleuzzi]

At the first Fleetwood Mac show, they played "The Supernatural," which Peter recorded with the Bluesbreakers. Mick, Jeremy, and Bob Brunning were not on the original, and it wasn't a Fleetwood Mac song.

When Christine joined, they did "I'd Rather Go Blind," "Get Like You Used To Be," and "Crazy 'Bout You, Baby," which were either Chicken Shack or solo.

When Lindsey and Stevie joined, they did "Don't Let Me Down Again" and (briefly) "Frozen Love."

When Billy was in the band, they did "Tear It Up" and "The Bigger The Love."

When Dave Mason was in the band, they did "We Just Disagree," "Only You Know and I Know," "Feelin' Alright," and "Dear Mr. Fantasy."

ETA: The band has also done "Stand Back," "Go Insane," and HAEWAFY, which were also not Fleetwood Mac songs.

How is doing "Don't Dream It's Over" any crazier, or even slightly out of character?

I knew you were going to cite all those precedents, had anticipated them earlier today. Here's one difference: When Christine joined, FM didn't have a particularly high profile in the US. The band were free to explore and try on hats. Even when they toured Europe (considered without Green to be non-events) they were free to reinvent themselves because they were young and had no other choice.

Here's another difference: doing DDIO is A LOT crazier than "Stand Back" and "Go Insane" because those songs were written and sung by longstanding FM band members whose solo careers, no matter how popular they became, were still considered satellite projects of the mothership.

Stevie and Lindsey could do Buckingham/Nicks songs for the same reason Christine could sing Chicken Shack songs--moreover, neither Chicken Shack nor BN had any name recognition in America when they incorporated them into the band. No one really knew Billy Burnette when he joined, so his pre-FM songs were considered FM material in the same way--even if longstanding fans weren't really interested.

The only parallel you cite that resembles FM doing DDIO is with Dave Mason doing famous Traffic songs on the Time tour. Well--as everyone knows--that was an embarrassing low point for the band. It didn't make sense then and doing Crowded House tunes on an FM tour don't make any sense now.

We all know you want this new configuration to work and you are supporting the band's attempt to reboot. Cool. But most of us are just not buying it, not now. Had this been 1970 or 75--or even 1988, maybe....but it would have sucked even in 1973 if, say, a member of a once genuinely famous band came into the FM lineup and did former glories with them. Imagine Rod Stewart singing "Maggie Mae" on the PENGUIN tour. No thanks.

[Buster]

At the first Fleetwood Mac show, they played "The Supernatural," which Peter recorded with the Bluesbreakers. Mick, Jeremy, and Bob Brunning were not on the original, and it wasn't a Fleetwood Mac song.

When Christine joined, they did "I'd Rather Go Blind," "Get Like You Used To Be," and "Crazy 'Bout You, Baby," which were either Chicken Shack or solo.

When Lindsey and Stevie joined, they did "Don't Let Me Down Again" and (briefly) "Frozen Love."

When Billy was in the band, they did "Tear It Up" and "The Bigger The Love."

When Dave Mason was in the band, they did "We Just Disagree," "Only You Know and I Know," "Feelin' Alright," and "Dear Mr. Fantasy."

ETA: The band has also done "Stand Back," "Go Insane," and HAEWAFY, which were also not Fleetwood Mac songs.

How is doing "Don't Dream It's Over" any crazier, or even slightly out of character?

Doing DDIO is basically saying “we know it doesn’t make a lot of sense that we brought Neil Finn to this band at this very late stage of our existence but hey here’s that famous song he did that you all know”. Had they instead chosen to write a new FM song or two with Finn, then the message would be “here’s a couple of songs by this new version of FM to introduce this great addition and show you why we chose him”. Also - it’s really lazy of them.

[Buster]

Re: Petty tribute. Stevie already did a tribute to him when was alive during the 24 Karat tour before singing Starshine. I’m guessing, but could be wrong, that she spoke about him after he passed during the Australia leg of that tour. She also spent much of her time at Music Cares talking about him.

I love Tom Petty very much and today brings up all the memories of that horrible day a year ago. But I don’t see the need for FM to do a tribute a year after his death regardless of Stevie and Mike. I don’t think people expect it. I think they expect a FM concert and hoo boy are they in for a surprise with this tribute or not.

It appears Stevie is driving this despite what Mike Campbell wants and that makes it particularly unsettling. Had he talked about how excited he is to do a tribute on this tour, perhaps I’d think differently.

[David]

And.... The Bigger The Love!!! I couldn't think of that!! Nice one..
Remember that Graham Nash interview/profile show on A&E? When Mick was interviewed, Billy & Co. sang "The Bigger the Love."

[David]

Here's another difference: doing DDIO is A LOT crazier than "Stand Back" and "Go Insane" because those songs were written and sung by longstanding FM band members whose solo careers, no matter how popular they became, were still considered satellite projects of the mothership. Agree.

Stevie and Lindsey could do Buckingham/Nicks songs for the same reason Christine could sing Chicken Shack songs--moreover, neither Chicken Shack nor BN had any name recognition in America when they incorporated them into the band. No one really knew Billy Burnette when he joined, so his pre-FM songs were considered FM material in the same way--even if longstanding fans weren't really interested. Agree.

The only parallel you cite that resembles FM doing DDIO is with Dave Mason doing famous Traffic songs on the Time tour. Well--as everyone knows--that was an embarrassing low point for the band. It didn't make sense then and doing Crowded House tunes on an FM tour don't make any sense now. Agree. I attended a couple of 1994 gigs, with Bramlett singing her parents' music and "Gold Dust Woman" and even a song by John Lennon, Mason singing "We Just Disagree" and "All Along the Watchtower," and Burnette singing his family's music and "Go Your Own Way." Mason also sang "Only You Know and I Know," which as everyone knows is connected to Delaney and Bonnie. But a concert that is an illustration of the Six Degrees of Separation game is not necessarily a good time. Everybody but Mason performed earnestly and skillfully, but there was depression at the core of it. The band didn't know why it was playing all this stuff—it was frantically trying to connect.

Imagine Rod Stewart singing "Maggie Mae" on the PENGUIN tour. No thanks.Agreed. That was the effect of the 1994 tour.

[BombaySapphire3]

Doing DDIO is basically saying “we know it doesn’t make a lot of sense that we brought Neil Finn to this band at this very late stage of our existence but hey here’s that famous song he did that you all know”. Had they instead chosen to write a new FM song or two with Finn, then the message would be “here’s a couple of songs by this new version of FM to introduce this great addition and show you why we chose him”. Also - it’s really lazy of them.

The new compilation of old material would have been the perfect time to record some new songs. Neil can write a catchy pop ditty in his sleep and I think Christine can still write. Stevie is a dried up old husk of her former self as a writer but she could kick in another vault song. This entire thing smacks of a karaoke cash grab.

[jbrownsjr]

Remember that Graham Nash interview/profile show on A&E? When Mick was interviewed, Billy & Co. sang "The Bigger the Love."

I don't recall this. I'll look it up. Sometimes, I will see something and then remember it after the fact.

[Storms123]

Re: Petty tribute. Stevie already did a tribute to him when was alive during the 24 Karat tour before singing Starshine. I’m guessing, but could be wrong, that she spoke about him after he passed during the Australia leg of that tour. She also spent much of her time at Music Cares talking about him.

I love Tom Petty very much and today brings up all the memories of that horrible day a year ago. But I don’t see the need for FM to do a tribute a year after his death regardless of Stevie and Mike. I don’t think people expect it. I think they expect a FM concert and hoo boy are they in for a surprise with this tribute or not.

It appears Stevie is driving this despite what Mike Campbell wants and that makes it particularly unsettling. Had he talked about how excited he is to do a tribute on this tour, perhaps I’d think differently.

Stevie’s cringeworthy speech at Musicares was a TP tribute through and through. Apart from screwing up her and Lindsey’s ages when they joined the band (the band beingFM and not TPH) I don’t think she mentioned FM at all. How’s that as a thank you to the band that made you famous

[jbrownsjr]

. The band didn't know why it was playing all this stuff—it was frantically trying to connect.

Agreed. That was the effect of the 1994 tour.

This ^^^^^

From an artistic standpoint, it feels just like this. ^^^^^^ Desperate to keep the vase together so it can still hold flowers. But, once you arrange it you realize it's very old and fragile and don't quite know what to do with it because it's nearly embarrassing.

[KenshiMaster16]

Considering whom we're speaking of and their reluctance to change a setlist that drastically over the last decade or so, I'd be willing to bet we end up with something along these lines;

The Chain
Dreams
Everywhere
Second Hand News
Rhiannon
Rattlesnake Shake
Stop Draggin' My Heart Around
Say You Love Me
Sara
Station Man
Free Fallin'
Landslide
Hold Me
Gypsy
Little Lies
Don't Dream It's Over
Gold Dust Woman
Oh Well
Go Your Own Way
World Turning
Don't Stop
Silver Springs
Songbird

[SteveMacD]

Considering whom we're speaking of and their reluctance to change a setlist that drastically over the last decade or so, I'd be willing to bet we end up with something along these lines;

The Chain
Dreams
Everywhere
Second Hand News
Rhiannon
Rattlesnake Shake
Stop Draggin' My Heart Around
Say You Love Me
Sara
Station Man
Free Fallin'
Landslide
Hold Me
Gypsy
Little Lies
Don't Dream It's Over
Gold Dust Woman
Oh Well
Go Your Own Way
World Turning
Don't Stop
Silver Springs
Songbird

Pretty much. I doubt Silver Springs will be played, though. Maybe Sara?

[SteveMacD]

Funny thing: Fleetwood Mac won’t be the only legendary band doing a Tom Petty tribute tomorrow night. The Byrds (McGuinn and Hillman w/ Marty Stuart) have been doing a couple of Tom Petty songs, too.

[Storms123]

Considering whom we're speaking of and their reluctance to change a setlist that drastically over the last decade or so, I'd be willing to bet we end up with something along these lines;

The Chain
Dreams
Everywhere
Second Hand News
Rhiannon
Rattlesnake Shake
Stop Draggin' My Heart Around
Say You Love Me
Sara
Station Man
Free Fallin'
Landslide
Hold Me
Gypsy
Little Lies
Don't Dream It's Over
Gold Dust Woman
Oh Well
Go Your Own Way
World Turning
Don't Stop
Silver Springs
Songbird

Without LB in the mix, I doubt we will ever hear Hold Me, Silver Springs or Sara again live.

[Storms123]

Re: Petty tribute. Stevie already did a tribute to him when was alive during the 24 Karat tour before singing Starshine. I’m guessing, but could be wrong, that she spoke about him after he passed during the Australia leg of that tour. She also spent much of her time at Music Cares talking about him.

I love Tom Petty very much and today brings up all the memories of that horrible day a year ago. But I don’t see the need for FM to do a tribute a year after his death regardless of Stevie and Mike. I don’t think people expect it. I think they expect a FM concert and hoo boy are they in for a surprise with this tribute or not.

It appears Stevie is driving this despite what Mike Campbell wants and that makes it particularly unsettling. Had he talked about how excited he is to do a tribute on this tour, perhaps I’d think differently.


I am struggling with the premise and notion as to why you would do a "tribute" to someone who was never a part of the band.

[SteveMacD]

I am struggling with the premise and notion as to why you would do a "tribute" to someone who was never a part of the band.

Well, two members of the band have extensive histories with him. Mike was his best friend, collaborator, and right hand man for nearly 50 years, and the biggest hit Tom ever had a hand in was SDMHA. It would be weirder, especially a day after the anniversary of Tom’s death, for them not to acknowledge it somehow.

[Storms123]

Well, two members of the band have extensive histories with him. Mike was his best friend, collaborator, and right hand man for nearly 50 years, and the biggest hit Tom ever had a hand in was SDMHA. It would be weirder, especially a day after the anniversary of Tom’s death, for them not to acknowledge it somehow.


The only reason Mike has this job, and I don't mean to sound crass, is because Tom is no longer here. Stevie paid her tribute during her solo tour. Yes he's an integral part of her musical evolution, but Mike has even gone so far to allude to and say, he really isn't on board with this (i.e. Free Fallin comments). At least that's how I took his comments in the article earlier this week. I respect your opinion and I hope we can respectfully agree to disagree on this front. I assume this group has collective connections to many artists who have passed on, if it's not being billed as such, I think it seems odd to earmark a part of a show (granted we are all assuming that's what they are doing and until tomorrow we won't know for sure) to someone who was never an integral part to the entire band.

[Buster]

Considering whom we're speaking of and their reluctance to change a setlist that drastically over the last decade or so, I'd be willing to bet we end up with something along these lines;

The Chain
Dreams
Everywhere
Second Hand News
Rhiannon
Rattlesnake Shake
Stop Draggin' My Heart Around
Say You Love Me
Sara
Station Man
Free Fallin'
Landslide
Hold Me
Gypsy
Little Lies
Don't Dream It's Over
Gold Dust Woman
Oh Well
Go Your Own Way
World Turning
Don't Stop
Silver Springs
Songbird

I don’t think SS, SDMHA, or Songbird will be in the setlist. Although maybe Songbird for the first few shows then dropped. I think only Oh Well for the pre-BN but maybe a 2nd one that is dropped. Not sure why I care but my setlist prediction, not in order:

The Chain
Dreams
Rhiannon
Free Fallin
Sara
Gypsy
Stand Back
Landslide with annoying dedication to those supporting this farce of a new band
Say You Love Me
You Make Loving Fun
Everywhere
Little Lies
Over My Head
Brown Eyes
Something else from Tusk by Christine
Don’t Dream It’s Over :eyeroll:
Go Your Own Way :eyeroll:
Second Hand News :eyeroll:
World Turning
Don’t Stop
One surprise

[jbrownsjr]

I don’t think SS, SDMHA, or Songbird will be in the setlist. Although maybe Songbird for the first few shows then dropped. I think only Oh Well for the pre-BN but maybe a 2nd one that is dropped. Not sure why I care but my setlist prediction, not in order:


Landslide with annoying dedication to those supporting this farce of a new band

One surprise

Imagine if $he actually said that!! :laugh::laugh:

[KenshiMaster16]

The only way I would even remotely change my mind about not going and try and grab some tickets is if they use this opportunity to really change things up (which will only happen if Hell freezes). Something along these lines;

The Chain
Dreams
Everywhere
Second Hand News
Rhiannon
Rattlesnake Shake
Fireflies
Say You Love Me
Angel
Station Man
Why
Crystal
As Long As You Follow
Gypsy
Little Lies
Don't Dream It's Over
Gold Dust Woman
Oh Well
You Make Loving Fun
Go Your Own Way
Hypnotized
Don't Stop
Landslide
Songbird

[bwboy]

The only way I would even remotely change my mind about not going and try and grab some tickets is if they use this opportunity to really change things up (which will only happen if Hell freezes). Something along these lines;

The Chain
Dreams
Everywhere
Second Hand News
Fireflies
Angel
Station Man
Why
Crystal
As Long As You Follow
Gypsy
Little Lies
Don't Dream It's Over
Oh Well
You Make Loving Fun
Go Your Own Way
Hypnotized
Landslide
Songbird

Throw in Brown Eyes, I Don't Want to Know, Man of the World, and Sentimental Lady and I agree- your song selections would really shock the fans!

[dreamsunwind]

I am struggling with the premise and notion as to why you would do a "tribute" to someone who was never a part of the band.

IA. I'd understand if it's just a one-time thing for the opening show or the anniversary of his death and it would make sense considering how Stevie and Mike were close to him but a tribute to him in the form of covering one of the most covered songs in the history of humanity as part of the regular setlist for what's supposed to be a 'Fleetwood Mac' tour seems unnecessary. Especially if they're already planning on doing SDMHA.

[SteveMacD]

but a tribute to him in the form of covering one of the most covered songs in the history of humanity as part of the regular setlist

TPATH did “Oh Well” when Stevie toured with them, so turn around seems fair.

[WatchChain]

The only way I would even remotely change my mind about not going and try and grab some tickets is if they use this opportunity to really change things up (which will only happen if Hell freezes). Something along these lines;

The Chain
Dreams
Everywhere
Second Hand News
Rhiannon
Rattlesnake Shake
Fireflies
Say You Love Me
Angel
Station Man
Why
Crystal
As Long As You Follow
Gypsy
Little Lies
Don't Dream It's Over
Gold Dust Woman
Oh Well
You Make Loving Fun
Go Your Own Way
Hypnotized
Don't Stop
Landslide
Songbird

You are absolutely right. I still have NOT purchased tickets to my local show in February. As it stands now, this is the FIRST Fleetwood Mac show that I will MISS in over 40 years.

Depending on what I wake up to tomorrow morning regarding news of the set list, I may or may not break down and buy seats. If I wake up and find that the band is really stepping outside their comfort zone and performing tunes like "Why", "Hypnotized", "Over and Over", "That's Alright", "Station Man", "Angel", and "Hold Me", I will consider attending.

However, doing the same set list sans Lindsey songs and just adding "Oh Well" and "Rattlesnake Shake" won't cut it for me. Moreover, Fleetwood Mac playing "Don't Dream It's Over" is sacrilegious. No offense to Crowded House, but WHY?

[WatchChain]

By the way, if anyone is in the wordly city of Tulsa tonight, can you provide a play by play set list?

[sands of time]

By the way, if anyone is in the wordly city of Tulsa tonight, can you provide a play by play set list?

The Chain

..

[WatchChain]

"Sands of Time"----thank you! It looks like you'll be our lifeline tonight. Please let us know of any surprises.

[sands of time]

I wouldn't be caught dead at that travesty. Just watching setlist.fm.

The Chain
YMLF
Dreams
SHN

[secondhandchain]

I wouldn't be caught dead at that travesty. Just watching setlist.fm.

The Chain
YMLF
Dreams
SHN

They started with the CHAIN!!???? OMFG How dare they!

[gldstwmn]

Black Magic Woman! Sounds superb!

[secondhandchain]

Black Magic Woman! Sounds superb!

the lack of excitement about opening night on ALL of the boards is palpable!

[sands of time]

Black Magic Woman! Sounds superb!

Yeah, not really

[WatchChain]

I wouldn't be caught dead at that travesty. Just watching setlist.fm.

The Chain
YMLF
Dreams
SHN

:laugh:

It sure is quiet on here tonight. I will also add that you couldn't pay me to enjoy a vacation in the chic and diverse city of Tulsa.

[bwboy]

:laugh:

It sure is quiet on here tonight. I will also add that you couldn't pay me to enjoy a vacation in the chic and diverse city of Tulsa.

Of course it is... when I saw the setlist could be found at another site, I started checking there. The people who are miserable (like you) come to this site and try to make other people miserable, so naturally we go somewhere else. Your whining is incessant, that's all.

[KenshiMaster16]

Copying and pasting the beginning of the last tour - no bueno.

Adding Black Magic Woman? Props for that. So far, impressed. Honestly was expecting I Loved Another Woman lol.

[thepoetinmyhear]

Where are people going to listen or see the setlist that isn't here?

[sands of time]

Where are people going to listen or see the setlist that isn't here?

https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/fleetwood-mac/2018/bok-center-tulsa-ok-1be905bc.html

[thepoetinmyhear]

Thank you!

[thepoetinmyhear]

Who sang lead on BMW? Neil? Mike?

[gldstwmn]

I Got You! :]:]:]

[ryan4136]

Everywhere
I got you
Rhiannon

[KenshiMaster16]

Wow, Stevie sings Black Magic Woman. Huh......interesting.

[thepoetinmyhear]

Wow, Stevie sings Black Magic Woman. Huh......interesting.

Is there a periscope link or something?

[BombaySapphire3]

I Got You! :]:]:]

Did Stevie and Chris wear leather mini skirts and stiletto heels for that one:lol:

[KenshiMaster16]

Is there a periscope link or something?

Ivory Keys group on Facebook had a feed going for a few songs, that was one of them.

[gldstwmn]

Tell Me All The Things You Do

[KenshiMaster16]

Tell Me All The Things You Do

:shocked: Holy crap.

[WatchChain]

Of course it is... when I saw the setlist could be found at another site, I started checking there. The people who are miserable (like you) come to this site and try to make other people miserable, so naturally we go somewhere else. Your whining is incessant, that's all.

Yep, that's pretty much spot on. I've been wallowing in my "misery" since 2011. Speaking of, I'm going to start "whining" again real soon if I don't pour myself another glass of wine. :laugh::laugh::laugh::]:xoxo:

#whinetime #miserywithnocompany #WhineItUp #miserable

[kak125]

Storms! Excited for this one.

[gldstwmn]

:shocked: Holy crap.

Yup. Fleetwood Mac still got it. Holee sh#t!

[KenshiMaster16]

Yup. Fleetwood Mac still got it. Holee sh#t!

Alright, I take back a lot of the harsh things I said about set predictability. :lol: So far, so good.

[StevieandChris]

Stevie sounds great tonight!

[AliceLover]

Omg what a CRAPPY set list!

[gldstwmn]

Hypnotized :D

[StevieandChris]

Hypnotized :D

Wow! :blob2::blob1::)

[WatchChain]

Omg what a CRAPPY set list!

Alice Lover, cut it out! You're being simply "miserable". Carry that fabulous stiletto in your garter and lighten up! :laugh: This set list is fabulous! Can't wait for the "World Turning" DRUM SOLO.....that body drum vest is "OFF THE CHAIN".

#WhineItUp #SunshineMisery

[thepoetinmyhear]

This setlist is shockingly full of surprises. I am very excited for the concert I have tickets to later this year.

[FM77]

Killer set list. I’d go just for Storms alone.

[Hawkeye]

Hypnotized :D


YES! That along with TMATYD as choices have won me over already. I just need a pre 75 Christine song to have my minimum expectations met.

[BombaySapphire3]

It's really too bad that they could not have come up with at least a couple of new songs..So far nothing more recent than 31 years ago.

[AliceLover]

Alice Lover, cut it out! You're being simply "miserable". Carry that fabulous stiletto in your garter and lighten up! :laugh: This set list is fabulous! Can't wait for "Go Your Own Way".

#WhineItUp #SunshineMisery

I will gladly admit I paid $600 for tix in the first 5 rows because I am a Mac addict, but I can’t lie...the footage and set list is making me cringe.

Stevie’s last tour was unbelievable, this is a travesty.

[Hawkeye]

It's really too bad that they could not have come up with at least a couple of new songs..So far nothing more recent than 31 years ago.

Valid complaint but not really news they didn’t have anything new yet. What is news is they’re following through an mixing the set up. The fact that it’s much OLDER this time around is actually the newest thing we could realistically hope for tonight, right?

[BombaySapphire3]

I will gladly admit I paid $600 for tix in the first 5 rows because I am a Mac addict, but I can’t lie...the footage and set list is making me cringe.

Stevie’s last tour was unbelievable, this is a travesty.

Something old..nothing new ..something borrowed Split Enz too.

[AliceLover]

Something old..nothing new ..something borrowed Split Enz too.

I’m truly speechless. It’s so bad.

[WatchChain]

It's really too bad that they could not have come up with at least a couple of new songs..So far nothing more recent than 31 years ago.

More positivity needed, Bombay Sapphire. They're pulling out all the stops tonight. The city of Tulsa is moving and shaking! Girl, I can't wait for that "World Turning" DRUM SOLO.....14 minutes in a body sized drum vest is off the chain!

#MoreWhinePlease

[AliceLover]

They could’ve at least took a page out of the Rito/Burnette playbook...Isn’t it Midnight.

[Hawkeye]

The short clip of Black Magic Woman is amazing. I hope they rerecord the song! Props to Stevie for sacrificing one of her songs to give tribute to Peter Green and similtaioisly showcase MC better then a lousy Lindsey cover.

[gldstwmn]

I imagine quite a few of you are having a sad right now. Me? I'm
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[Hawkeye]

Also my other odd minimum requirement was for them not to be lazy enough to keep the same danmed encores they’ve had the past 20 years and sure enough WT has been done already.

[gldstwmn]

Oh and one more thing. I didn't see one goat t shirt and no one yelled for Lindsey.
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[WatchChain]

I will gladly admit I paid $600 for tix in the first 5 rows because I am a Mac addict, but I can’t lie...the footage and set list is making me cringe.

Stevie’s last tour was unbelievable, this is a travesty.

Alice lover, you have me in stitches...I'm laughing so hard!!! We are kindred spirits....I've been plopping down hundreds of dollars for 40 years on this dysfunctional outfit.....I guess I'm not about to stop now! It's like a traffic accident that I can't turn away from! Happiness or "misery", the music is in my soul and I've got a bad case of it! Don't worry-- after a few cocktails, that $600 will be well worth it! We can't help it, it's just what we do. For the love of God, stop me before I pull out my credit card to hear "Hypnotized"......:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

#IncessantWhining #MiseryAmericanExpress

[Hawkeye]

On the negative side I had never heard I Got You but I just listened and boy does it suck! I love DDIO but I Got You is awful. Maybe Mick, John, Mike and Chris playing on it will make it listenable or even good?


Either Way, at least this DIFFERENT!

[gldstwmn]

Alice lover, you have me in stitches...I'm laughing so hard!!! We are kindred spirits....I've been plopping down hundreds of dollars for 40 years on this dysfunctional outfit.....I guess I'm not about to stop now! It's like a traffic accident that I can't turn away from! Happiness or "misery", the music is in my soul and I've got a bad case of it! Don't worry-- after a few cocktails, that $600 will be well worth it! We can't help it, it's just what we do. For the love of God, stop me before I pull out my credit card to hear "Hypnotized"......:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

#IncessantWhining #MiseryAmericanExpress

This tour is going to be amazing. I knew you could do it Fleetwood Mac! Christine's voice sounded really good on Say You Love Me and I didn't detect any sweeteners.

[WatchChain]

They could’ve at least took a page out of the Rito/Burnette playbook...Isn’t it Midnight.

STOP!!! You are going to induce a stroke!!! :laugh::laugh:

#SaveMe #AliceisDangerous #WhineIsTheLimit

[gldstwmn]

On the negative side I had never heard I Got You but I just listened and boy does it suck! I love DDIO but I Got You is awful. Maybe Mick, John, Mike and Chris playing on it will make it listenable or even good?


Either Way, at least this DIFFERENT!

That song was a biiig hit. :nod: :sorry:

[AliceLover]

Alice lover, you have me in stitches...I'm laughing so hard!!! We are kindred spirits....I've been plopping down hundreds of dollars for 40 years on this dysfunctional outfit.....I guess I'm not about to stop now! It's like a traffic accident that I can't turn away from! Happiness or "misery", the music is in my soul and I've got a bad case of it! Don't worry-- after a few cocktails, that $600 will be well worth it! We can't help it, it's just what we do. For the love of God, stop me before I pull out my credit card to hear "Hypnotized"......:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

#IncessantWhining #MiseryAmericanExpress

Exactly, I’ll never not go. But this is just something else. I guess it’s hard to not compare to last tours. But I am. Maybe it’ll grow on me. But for some reason actually seeing it live on stage without the 5th firefly is really hitting me. But change happens.

[AliceLover]

STOP!!! You are going to induce a stroke!!! :laugh::laugh:

#SaveMe #AliceisDangerous #WhineIsTheLimit

Now Save Me would’ve been fantastic! Love that song!

[Hawkeye]

Never heard it once and I have a great memory. The other song I HAVE known forever through hearing it almost daily at work is “something so strong” and I’ve always HATEF it, sorry sugar mouse, I’ve hated long before I knew who Neil Finn was.

[sands of time]

I imagine quite a few of you are having a sad right now. Me? I'm
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That's nice.

13112

[gldstwmn]

That's nice.

13112

Yes. Yes it is.

[sands of time]

That song was a biiig hit. :nod: :sorry:

So was Gangnam Style :rolleyes::rolleyes:

[AliceLover]

They could’ve at least took a page out of the Rito/Burnette playbook...Isn’t it Midnight.

I’ll eat my words...isn’t it midnight is cool. :)

[Hawkeye]

Don’t know where this is in the order but they are doing Isn’t it Midnight! Someone mentioned that earlier as I wish cant remember who or what thread, sorry

[Hawkeye]

Mystery Solved!

[gldstwmn]

Don’t know where this is in the order but they are doing Isn’t it Midnight! Someone mentioned that earlier as I wish cant remember who or what thread, sorry

You know I almost wonder if they are going to do a changing set list on this tour. :shocked:

[WatchChain]

Don’t know where this is in the order but they are doing Isn’t it Midnight! Someone mentioned that earlier as I wish cant remember who or what thread, sorry

Say it isn't so, Hawkeye. Why, Dolores! Why?!?! :laugh:

[KenshiMaster16]

All Over Again.....wow. Kinda speechless.

[HomerMcvie]

They started with the CHAIN!!???? OMFG How dare they!

This is Old Goat Breath's band now. $he's the bo$$.

You get that, right? :mad::mad::mad:

[KenshiMaster16]

Stevie shares verses with Christine in All Over Again. Shes the one that sings the lines;

But I have to let you go
It's time to move on, don't you know
But you can rely on a love that won't die
For haven't I told you so

Message much, Stevie?

[gldstwmn]

So was Gangnam Style :rolleyes::rolleyes:

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[secondhandchain]

That song was a biiig hit. :nod: :sorry:

It pains me to say this but I LOVED I got you when it came out.

[gldstwmn]

This is Old Goat Breath's band now. $he's the bo$$.

You get that, right? :mad::mad::mad:

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[gldstwmn]

It pains me to say this but I LOVED I got you when it came out.

It's a fun song. Split Enz was great. The show is going to be a lot of fun.

[HomerMcvie]

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I see that it's your night on work release.

[APerfectLie]

You know I almost wonder if they are going to do a changing set list on this tour. :shocked:

Yeah, it’s going to change... from 24 songs down to about 17 in the next few weeks. The casual FM fans will have plenty of time between Rhiannon and Landslide to go take a piss and grab a pretzel.

[gldstwmn]

Yeah, it’s going to change... from 24 songs down to about 17 in the next few weeks. The casual FM fans will have plenty of time between Rhiannon and Landslide to go take a piss and grab a pretzel.

You keep hoping. :shrug:

[APerfectLie]

You keep hoping. :shrug:

Lol no, I hope nothing gets dropped! But I know most concert goers are pretty basic and take any opportunity they can to get another beer and there is a large segment of the set that will create a lot of empty seats, to which the band might just decide to cut the length.

[gldstwmn]

Lol no, I hope nothing gets dropped! But I know most concert goers are pretty basic and take any opportunity they can to get another beer and there is a large segment of the set that will create a lot of empty seats, to which the band might just decide to cut the length.

They're not going to I don't think. They worked hard on this set list and it shows.

[Hawkeye]

Lol no, I hope nothing gets dropped! But I know most concert goers are pretty basic and take any opportunity they can to get another beer and there is a large segment of the set that will create a lot of empty seats, to which the band might just decide to cut the length.

Happened during the 24KG tour too. The increase in obscure songs and even more so her long stories not only created more bathroom runs but a lot of complaints being yelled from front sections. Never phased her.

[secondhandchain]

So are their any reviews of Stevie's show?

[ricohv]

All my misgivings about this new line-up aside, I am excited to hear the Fleetwood Mac version of Split Enz's "I GOT YOU"-it seems like a song that they might do well by! I had to look for that song on Youtube-I knew it as a kid but didn't recognize it by name or make the Neil Finn connection.
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[Mr Scarrott]

I am stunned. Given the situation they have contrived to get themselves into, major kudos to them. Fleetwood Mac plays a song from Mystery to Me, Kiln House and Time. Stevie sings Black Magic Woman, an idea that's only 43 years overdue. The world's still turning on its axis, I take it?

[Macfan4life]

https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/fleetwood-mac/2018/bok-center-tulsa-ok-1be905bc.html
I think opening night should have had its own thread. I had to go through 5 pages on this thread just to get the setlist :eek:
I give the setlist a solid B I am surprised.

Here is what I love:

Hypnotized OMG just to hear John's bass is probably worth the show. I cant believe the Mac is playing Bob Welch. That surprises me.


Isn't It Midnight - one of my favorites but its sad no Lindsey on guitar or vocals. But I am sure Mike rocks this one out.


No Stop Draggin My Heart Around - OMG when this was discussed I could not think of of a more UN-Fleetwood Mac song. It seemed odd to play just because Mike is in the band. Let alone the irony that Mike never wanted Stevie to have the song.

Storms - great Tusk deep cut. Although I cant imagine this song without Lindsey on guitar. That is going to sound weird.

No more Gypsy story - Nuff said

Love Kiln House is represented but this is not the song I would have done


Things I am cool about the setlist:

Too many Lindsey songs. Are you kidding me? Monday Morning and Second Hand News. I will give them a pass on Go Your Own Way

Could not do a concert without the sing along Landslide

Free Fallin as an encore. I suppose that is the place for it?


Things I HATE about the setlist:


I give them a pass on Don't Dream Its Over. Ok let the new guy sing one of his hits. But giving him 2 songs is just too much. Is this Crowded House/Spit Enz (almost the same thing)? It tells me Neil sounded horrible singing other Mac songs. Stevie had to sing Black Magic Woman probably for this reason

[Feather Blade]

Hypnotized :D

Hooray!!! :blob1:

[Feather Blade]

I think opening night should have had its own thread. I had to go through 5 pages on this thread just to get the setlist :eek:
I give the setlist a solid B I am surprised.

Here is what I love:

Hypnotized OMG just to hear John's bass is probably worth the show. I cant believe the Mac is playing Bob Welch. That surprises me.


Isn't It Midnight - one of my favorites but its sad no Lindsey on guitar or vocals. But I am sure Mike rocks this one out.


No Stop Draggin My Heart Around - OMG when this was discussed I could not think of of a more UN-Fleetwood Mac song. It seemed odd to play just because Mike is in the band. Let alone the irony that Mike never wanted Stevie to have the song.

Storms - great Tusk deep cut. Although I cant imagine this song without Lindsey on guitar. That is going to sound weird.

No more Gypsy story - Nuff said

Love Kiln House is represented but this is not the song I would have done


Things I am cool about the setlist:

Too many Lindsey songs. Are you kidding me? Monday Morning and Second Hand News. I will give them a pass on Go Your Own Way

Could not do a concert without the sing along Landslide

Free Fallin as an encore. I suppose that is the place for it?


Things I HATE about the setlist:


I give them a pass on Don't Dream Its Over. Ok let the new guy sing one of his hits. But giving him 2 songs is just too much. Is this Crowded House/Spit Enz (almost the same thing)? It tells me Neil sounded horrible singing other Mac songs. Stevie had to sing Black Magic Woman probably for this reason

Agree on the separate thread issue. Also, we are closing in on a year since the last Buckingham/McVie tour date and the Mac tour has started. Why hasn't the B/M tour date thread been taken down and replaced with a Mac tour date thread? I find it strange.

[jbrownsjr]

I love this set list! Wow!! A bit bothered they did Monday Morning.

Why? Because it's more of a deep cut that they could have done something more adventurous from the ladies or even Mike singing Peter Green or Bob Welch.

The Chain sounded great on the youtube I saw. Very surprised at how good it sounds.

Black Magic Woman w/ $tevie was cringeworthy... oy.. really really bad. Very nasal, like nails on a chalkboard. Why not have Mike sing this?
Same with FF. God that woman can butcher a song. I hope she sounded better on her own tunes.

I can't wait to hear IIM and Oh Well w/ Mike.

Ending with All Over Again is awesome! A duet with the ladies. Hasn't happened since, HAEWAFY.

I hope more vids get posted. Kudos for a great set list. I was bored reading some of the ones presented.

Final note: THIS BAND NEEDS NEW MUSIC. Wasted opportunity: Could have recorded 3 new tunes for the tour. It would help them gel and have some chemistry. (like The Dance. Bleed, Temp One, Sweet Girl(My favorite) and Demon.

[Storms123]

I love this set list! Wow!! A bit bothered they did Monday Morning.

Why? Because it's more of a deep cut that they could have done something more adventurous from the ladies or even Mike singing Peter Green or Bob Welch.

The Chain sounded great on the youtube I saw. Very surprised at how good it sounds.

Black Magic Woman w/ $tevie was cringeworthy... oy.. really really bad. Very nasal, like nails on a chalkboard. Why not have Mike sing this?
Same with FF. God that woman can butcher a song. I hope she sounded better on her own tunes.

I can't wait to hear IIM and Oh Well w/ Mike.

Ending with All Over Again is awesome! A duet with the ladies. Hasn't happened since, HAEWAFY.

I hope more vids get posted. Kudos for a great set list. I was bored reading some of the ones presented.

Final note: THIS BAND NEEDS NEW MUSIC. Wasted opportunity: Could have recorded 3 new tunes for the tour. It would help them gel and have some chemistry. (like The Dance. Bleed, Temp One, Sweet Girl(My favorite) and Demon.

I will say this, I have long hoped for a duet between Christine and Stevie. Nice way to end

[jbrownsjr]

I will say this, I have long hoped for a duet between Christine and Stevie. Nice way to end

They have always sounded great together. $tevie keeps Christine in tune, and Christine can keep $tevie from sounding so nasal.

[Buster]

Credit where credit is due - very interesting setlist. Had Lindsey not been fired and the Rumours 5 did this setlist (minus Finn songs obviously), I would have gone to several shows this tour.

[gldstwmn]

Credit where credit is due - very interesting setlist. Had Lindsey not been fired and the Rumours 5 did this setlist (minus Finn songs obviously), I would have gone to several shows this tour.

That never would have happened with Lindsey. He would not have been willing to do these songs. :sorry::sorry::sorry::sorry:

[gldstwmn]

I am stunned. Given the situation they have contrived to get themselves into, major kudos to them. Fleetwood Mac plays a song from Mystery to Me, Kiln House and Time. Stevie sings Black Magic Woman, an idea that's only 43 years overdue. The world's still turning on its axis, I take it?

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[gldstwmn]

Here is what I love:

Hypnotized OMG just to hear John's bass is probably worth the show. I cant believe the Mac is playing Bob Welch. That surprises me.




Johnny Mac sounded very, very good last night. He looked like he was having fun.

[Buster]

That never would have happened with Lindsey. He would not have been willing to do these songs. :sorry::sorry::sorry::sorry:

I guess I’m not familiar with that side of Lindsey - was he opposed to doing pre-BN era music?

[gldstwmn]

I guess I’m not familiar with that side of Lindsey - was he opposed to doing pre-BN era music?

Yes. :nod: :nod:

[MoonSister75]

Oh and one more thing. I didn't see one goat t shirt and no one yelled for Lindsey.
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I need to make sure this post isn't buried in this thread - priceless!

That never would have happened with Lindsey. He would not have been willing to do these songs. :sorry::sorry::sorry::sorry:

Exactly! It's a sad fact, but we wouldn't be witnessing this wonderful new show if he was still in the band. Sometimes things just need to change, whether you like it or not.

[FM77]

I love this. All of it. Kudos for their willingness to be fresh and get out of their comfort zone. I know Mike C had a LOT to do with that.

[gldstwmn]

I love this. All of it. Kudos for their willingness to be fresh and get out of their comfort zone. I know Mike C had a LOT to do with that.
Hopefully that will clear up the misguided notion by some that he was a hired gun. Watching him on stage at certain points last night he was leading the band. This is a good thing.

[Neal]

Just... wow. This set list has me floored. :shocked:

I mean, odds are they'll drop several* and/or replace them with tired old standards by the time I see them in late November :rolleyes:, but in the meantime I shall remain floored! :nod:



*If I don't hear "Isn't It Midnight", there will be hell to pay!

[jeets2000]

Black Magic Woman w/ $tevie was cringeworthy... oy.. really really bad. Very nasal, like nails on a chalkboard. Why not have Mike sing this?

I don't disagree, and changing the words around to fit her perspective... :rolleyes: But what did you think of Chris's extended "solo" during BMW? If it was her coming through the speakers, and it certainly looked like it, she sounded great on the keys. Of all the clips I've seen thus far, that's been the coolest part I've seen... a mini-jam, of sorts.

[jbrownsjr]

I don't disagree, and changing the words around to fit her perspective... :rolleyes: But what did you think of Chris's extended "solo" during BMW? If it was her coming through the speakers, and it certainly looked like it, she sounded great on the keys. Of all the clips I've seen thus far, that's been the coolest part I've seen... a mini-jam, of sorts.

I haven't been able to witness, my clip ended short..... gldstwnn??? any review of Christine during the show?

[jeets2000]

I haven't been able to witness..... gldstwnn??? any review of Christine during the show?

I can't figure out how to embed, but here's a link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaS5Y_SbyeY

[jbrownsjr]

I can't figure out how to embed, but here's a link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaS5Y_SbyeY

Wow!!! They jam it at the end... If only someone else sang it!! Vocals were so bad it almost ruins the whole performance.

[Hawkeye]

Wow!!! They jam it at the end... If only someone else sang it!! Vocals were so bad it almost ruins the whole performance.

Really? I think that song as a whole is by far the best song of the night (only seen about 7 songs so far so that’s a bit premature maybe) the jam at eh end is the best part but I also find Stevie’s vocal amazing. I guess we just have drastic different measuring sticks for Stevie’s voice. I pretty much only judge her based on passion and delivery these days, and she had that here.

Gypsy on Ellen, I’ll agree. Nails on a chalkboard. But BMW, whatever the opposite of that is:laugh:

[SteveMacD]

Wow!!! They jam it at the end... If only someone else sang it!! Vocals were so bad it almost ruins the whole performance.

Neil should do it the way Danny sang it on the FG/BT bootlegs.

[jbrownsjr]

Really? I think that song as a whole is by far the best song of the night (only seen about 7 songs so far so that’s a bit premature maybe) the jam at eh end is the best part but I also find Stevie’s vocal amazing. I guess we just have drastic different measuring sticks for Stevie’s voice. I pretty much only judge her based on passion and delivery these days, and she had that here.

Gypsy on Ellen, I’ll agree. Nails on a chalkboard. But BMW, whatever the opposite of that is:laugh:

Well, after hearing Peter Green and Greg Rolie sing it, I find her vocals like a bad karaoke singer on this one. It's so nasal and croaky..

But hey!! Christine is playing keys!!! who cares!!!