This article on D listed deserves it's own thread! HA HA!

[secondhandchain]

Homer you are going to love this!:lol::lol:

http://dlisted.com/2018/05/13/lindsey-buckingham-thinks-his-firing-from-fleetwood-mac-was-political/#more-291394
Sure, Fleetwood Mac is a legendary rock supergroup that could rest on their laurels and never have to work again. But retirement mansions in nice sections of Florida or Arizona can be pricey. They’re all in that stage of their lives and you would think everyone in the band could get along if only to keep those nostalgia tour dollars rolling in. Not so. With the backing of the rest of the band, co-lead singer Stevie Nicks used her fringed shawl-swathed arm and tambourine to gesture towards the exit for guitarist (and her ex) Lindsey Buckingham to leave the band this past April.

Medium reports that Lindsey spoke publicly for the first time about his dismissal while performing at a political fundraiser for Democratic Congressional candidate Mike Levin on Friday. He seems to be equating it with the current political landscape here in the US? Easy there, Lindsay. It was just a song about a Welsh witch and fallin’, fallin’, fallin’. Let’s not pump it up too much. You know you’ll be asked back when this next Buckingham-less tour doesn’t rake in as much cash as previous ones.

Lindsey was replaced with singer-guitarist Neil Finn from Crowded House and Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers guitarist Mike Campbell. The official reason for his firing was his supposedly refusing to go out on tour again.

“It’s been an interesting time on a lot of levels,” said Buckingham from the Los Feliz, California, backyard of fellow Levin donor Erica Rothschild. “For me, personally, probably some of you know that for the last three months I have sadly taken leave of my band of 43 years, Fleetwood Mac. This was not something that was really my doing or my choice.

As Lindsay went on, some rabid fan of his blamed it all on white witch Stevie and was rather eloquent about it.

“I think what you would say is that there were factions within the band that had lost their perspective [a female fan shouts, ‘F — k Stevie Nicks!,’ prompting Buckingham to raise his hand]. Well, it doesn’t really matter. The point is that they’d lost their perspective. What that did was to harm — and this is the only thing I’m really sad about, the rest of it becomes an opportunity — it harmed the 43-year legacy that we had worked so hard to build [another admirer chimes in, ‘That you built, Lindsey’]. That legacy was really about rising above difficulties in order to fulfill one’s higher truth and one’s higher destiny.”

And that’s when he equated the situation that led to his firing with the subversion of the US democratic process.

“Now, we also are at a point with our country in Washington where there’s been a loss of perspective. I think the difference was that perhaps there were more separations of powers. There was more potential for checks and balances in that loss of perspective. The loss of perspective we see now is indeed threatening to harm the legacy that is the United States.

Fleetwood Mac is scheduled to kick off a 52-date North American tour in Oklahma in October. Stevie herself spoke on her ex’s pink-slipping during a CBS This Morning appearance on April 25.

“This team wanted to get out on the road, and one of the members didn’t want to go out on the road for a year,” said Nicks. “We just couldn’t agree. When you’re in a band, it’s a team. I have a solo career. I love my solo career, and I’m the boss. But I’m not the boss in this band.”

You can not tell me that, since she broke out of her Klonopin haze, Stevie hasn’t found her sobriety threatened on the regular by having to share the stage with her ex. Those mic stand kicks are a little lower when the guy you broke up with years ago is is still necessary to your financial existence. She’s the boss alright. Stevie probably flew her ass Down Under to nab the Crowded House guy herself, and Tom Petty’s body was probably barely in the ground when she grabbed the other guy.

[HomerMcvie]

Homer you are going to love this!:lol::lol:


“This team wanted to get out on the road, and one of the members didn’t want to go out on the road for a year,” said Nicks. “We just couldn’t agree. When you’re in a band, it’s a team. I have a solo career. I love my solo career, and I’m the boss. But I’m not the boss in this band.”

:p
Team, my ass! I'm not the boss? I hate her more and more with every word I read from her. NOBODY(even her entourage) believes her SH*T. Well, nobody except herself.

[secondhandchain]

"ead singer Stevie Nicks used her fringed shawl-swathed arm and tambourine to gesture towards the exit for guitarist" LOL!

[HomerMcvie]

"ead singer Stevie Nicks used her fringed shawl-swathed arm and tambourine to gesture towards the exit for guitarist" LOL!

She's quite the witch. Oh wait, I'm one letter off.
:D

[secondhandchain]

She's quite the witch. Oh wait, I'm one letter off.
:D
This is such a visual.

"You can not tell me that, since she broke out of her Klonopin haze, Stevie hasn’t found her sobriety threatened on the regular by having to share the stage with her ex. Those mic stand kicks are a little lower when the guy you broke up with years ago is is still necessary to your financial existence. She’s the boss alright. Stevie probably flew her ass Down Under to nab the Crowded House guy herself, and Tom Petty’s body was probably barely in the ground when she grabbed the other guy."

[HomerMcvie]

This is such a visual.

"You can not tell me that, since she broke out of her Klonopin haze, Stevie hasn’t found her sobriety threatened on the regular by having to share the stage with her ex. Those mic stand kicks are a little lower when the guy you broke up with years ago is is still necessary to your financial existence. She’s the boss alright. Stevie probably flew her ass Down Under to nab the Crowded House guy herself, and Tom Petty’s body was probably barely in the ground when she grabbed the other guy."

IDK why she just doesn't own up to being the star, and having the power to force these changes.

We already know that she's evil. She should embrace it. :laugh:

[secondhandchain]

IDK why she just doesn't own up to being the star, and having the power to force these changes.

We already know that she's evil. She should embrace it. :laugh:

I actually think she is embracing it. She WANTS everyone to know she fired him. That's why she did it because now everyone is talking about it.. The world is confirming that she has the most power in the band and that is exactly what she wants to hear. And she's finally hearing it out loud over and over again. She doesn't even care if it's in a negative light at this point. This is cementing HER legacy as the supreme one in FM, and if it took destroying the bands legacy in the process, so be it.

[HomerMcvie]

I actually think she is embracing it. She WANTS everyone to know she fired him. That's why she did it because now everyone is talking about it.. The world is confirming that she has the most power in the band and that is exactly what she wants to hear. And she's finally hearing it out loud over and over again. She doesn't even care if it's in a negative light at this point. This is cementing HER legacy as the supreme one in FM, and if it took destroying the bands legacy in the process, so be it.

I agree with every word. It only took her 43 years, but $he'$ finally, officially, the bo$$.

[ryan4136]

Articles like this, I understand are designed to take shots at Stevie. But they don't do much to show Lindsey in a good light. I'm not much of a fan of these types of articles.

I'm very pro LB, and very much against Stevie's actions. But LB has been nothing but total class through all this. This article lumps him in with anti-class statements.

[secondhandchain]

Articles like this, I understand are designed to take shots at Stevie. But they don't do much to show Lindsey in a good light. I'm not much of a fan of these types of articles.

I'm very pro LB, and very much against Stevie's actions. But LB has been nothing but total class through all this. This article lumps him in with anti-class statements.

The guy who writes that website is like that with everybody so take it with a grain of salt, he is cutting and humorous.

[secondhandchain]

I agree with every word. It only took her 43 years, but $he'$ finally, officially, the bo$$.

“I had to tell them we can only go on tour three years”. Then when it suits her she’s whining about how the cat just all sit around it’s what they do.

[The Catdancer]

I actually think she is embracing it. She WANTS everyone to know she fired him. That's why she did it because now everyone is talking about it.. The world is confirming that she has the most power in the band and that is exactly what she wants to hear. And she's finally hearing it out loud over and over again. She doesn't even care if it's in a negative light at this point. This is cementing HER legacy as the supreme one in FM, and if it took destroying the bands legacy in the process, so be it.

Agreed and her people will block anything negative from her so all she hears are the opinions of her supporters.

Maybe she'll run for President in 2020 because, you know, power et all that.

[dreamsunwind]

Stevie's a very strangely emotional person, for lack of better words. She has a lot of feelings that always veer towards the extreme, contradict each other and change CONSTANTLY. I think whatever headspace she is in right now will be very different not too far from now. That's definitely going to be interesting to watch.

[button-lip]

Stevie's a very strangely emotional person, for lack of better words. She has a lot of feelings that always veer towards the extreme, contradict each other and change CONSTANTLY. I think whatever headspace she is in right now will be very different not too far from now. That's definitely going to be interesting to watch.

I think that's the most accurate description I have read of Stevie in my entire life. :nod::nod:
And I think they all know that. In the band, I mean. And they're waiting..... :D

[Murrow]

I agree with every word. It only took her 43 years, but $he'$ finally, officially, the bo$$.

I believe she has a certain MJKF round her little finger. I still say if wanting stuff delayed for solo projects was the problem then they would have ditched Stevie around 2016 if not a couple of years before.

It's only just really dawned on me what a big draw she is for the group. They could still fill big venues even when only four out of the Rumours five were in the line-up but look how tame the whole BuckVie thing was by comparison.

[HomerMcvie]

I believe she has a certain MJKF round her little finger. I still say if wanting stuff delayed for solo projects was the problem then they would have ditched Stevie around 2016 if not a couple of years before.

It's only just really dawned on me what a big draw she is for the group. They could still fill big venues even when only four out of the Rumours five were in the line-up but look how tame the whole BuckVie thing was by comparison.

I know. $HE'$ the reason many come.

My two Buck Vie shows were truly two of my favorite concerts(out of hundreds and hundreds of shows), ever.

But then, I prefer my goat curried.

[jbrownsjr]

The BuckVie shows I attended were far from tame. Especially, the sold out Greek Show. That was a show I'll never forget.

[secondhandchain]

I believe she has a certain MJKF round her little finger. I still say if wanting stuff delayed for solo projects was the problem then they would have ditched Stevie around 2016 if not a couple of years before.

It's only just really dawned on me what a big draw she is for the group. They could still fill big venues even when only four out of the Rumours five were in the line-up but look how tame the whole BuckVie thing was by comparison.

You are forgetting the fact that they didn’t have the Fleetwood Mac name.

[HomerMcvie]

You are forgetting the fact that they didn’t have the Fleetwood Mac name.

And WHY didn't it have the FM name?

Lindsey isn't in the group now, and it's still FM.

So Lindsey, Chris, John, and Dick do a record, and THAT'S not FM???

I hate that tambourine witch more than brussel sprouts! And Hitler!

[24karatstevie]

And WHY didn't it have the FM name?

Lindsey isn't in the group now, and it's still FM.

So Lindsey, Chris, John, and Dick do a record, and THAT'S not FM???

I hate that tambourine witch more than brussel sprouts! And Hitler!

Homer, we all know that you absolutely hate Stevie with every fiber of your being. Whatever, that's your right. But to compare her to Hitler??? You gotta be f***ing kidding me! You think Stevie is really as bad (or worse as you say) as a man who brought about the inhumane treatment and mass genocide of nearly an entire race of people??! Even if you're joking, I find this in really poor taste. Millions of people being murdered is not funny.

It's posts like these that make me not want to come on this website very much. I know I'm free to leave at anytime, but I've always used the ledge as my source for news, even before I became a member and just lurked. It's upsetting that this whole situation has happened. I'm not happy about Lindsey being fired. But Stevie didn't kill anyone for crying out loud! Some of you are taking your anger and hatred of her way too far.

[HomerMcvie]

Homer, we all know that you absolutely hate Stevie with every fiber of your being. Whatever, that's your right. But to compare her to Hitler??? You gotta be f***ing kidding me! You think Stevie is really as bad (or worse as you say) as a man who brought about the inhumane treatment and mass genocide of nearly an entire race of people??! Even if you're joking, I find this in really poor taste. Millions of people being murdered is not funny.

It's posts like these that make me not want to come on this website very much. I know I'm free to leave at anytime, but I've always used the ledge as my source for news, even before I became a member and just lurked. It's upsetting that this whole situation has happened. I'm not happy about Lindsey being fired. But Stevie didn't kill anyone for crying out loud! Some of you are taking your anger and hatred of her way too far.
Oh, calm down!:wavey:

AND, if you could read, I said that I hate her more than Hitler. That ISN'T a comparison.

[24karatstevie]

Oh, calm down!:wavey:

AND, if you could read, I said that I hate her more than Hitler. That ISN'T a comparison.

Excuse me for apparently being illiterate! I had no idea! Fine, you hate her MORE than Hitler. I still find it disgusting that you would rank her higher on your hate list than someone who literally caused the DEATHS of millions of people. Even if you were joking. The Holocaust was a real thing that affected the lives of so many people, and still affects many today. Whatever Stevie did cannot be worse than that.

I don't see the point of arguing with you anymore. It's clear that only a select few on this board are allowed to continually express their opinions without repercussions. I can normally ignore things said on here, but this took things too far, and I couldn't stay silent.

[sue]

And WHY didn't it have the FM name?

Lindsey isn't in the group now, and it's still FM.

So Lindsey, Chris, John, and Dick do a record, and THAT'S not FM???

I hate that tambourine witch more than brussel sprouts! And Hitler!

It wasn’t FM because Mick chose not to use the FM title....it belongs to him and his old mucker John..

[secondhandchain]

Homer, we all know that you absolutely hate Stevie with every fiber of your being. Whatever, that's your right. But to compare her to Hitler??? You gotta be f***ing kidding me! You think Stevie is really as bad (or worse as you say) as a man who brought about the inhumane treatment and mass genocide of nearly an entire race of people??! Even if you're joking, I find this in really poor taste. Millions of people being murdered is not funny.

It's posts like these that make me not want to come on this website very much. I know I'm free to leave at anytime, but I've always used the ledge as my source for news, even before I became a member and just lurked. It's upsetting that this whole situation has happened. I'm not happy about Lindsey being fired. But Stevie didn't kill anyone for crying out loud! Some of you are taking your anger and hatred of her way too far.

Homer is funny and that's what he's trying to be. You can't tell that?????? It's pretty obvious.

[bwboy]

Homer is funny and that's what he's trying to be. You can't tell that?????? It's pretty obvious.

I never think Holocaust jokes are funny:shrug:

[SteveMacD]

It wasn’t FM because Mick chose not to use the FM title....it belongs to him and his old mucker John..

He didn’t want to risk losing his bag of money. But, then again, none of them did.

[bwboy]

It wasn’t FM because Mick chose not to use the FM title....it belongs to him and his old mucker John..

Just a reminder, Lindsey did several interviews where he said the album was never meant to be a FM album... including one amusing interview where his agent or handler actually intervened when the interviewer pressed the point. But you say Mick made the choice to not call it a FM album. Guess Lindsey was lying, then?

Not that it matters to me what the reason was, but it is confusing when Lindsey made it very clear it was never meant to be a FM album.

[Macfan4life]

Just a reminder, Lindsey did several interviews where he said the album was never meant to be a FM album... including one amusing interview where his agent or handler actually intervened when the interviewer pressed the point. But you say Mick made the choice to not call it a FM album. Guess Lindsey was lying, then?

Not that it matters to me what the reason was, but it is confusing when Lindsey made it very clear it was never meant to be a FM album.
Lindsey like everyone else played the game. Do you really think Lindsey, Christine, Mick and John did not want to record a Fleetwood Mac album? Of course they did. However when Stevie was not joining them Lindsey and Christine were having so much fun they still moved forward with the project. They were not going to rub Stevie's face in the project. It also sounds a lot better than "We sat around and waited for Stevie but Stevie does not like us so we did the album anyway." Of course it sounds better to say. "Oh yes, this was our intention the entire time. We just wanted to put out this duo album from the start.
I doubt anyone seriously believes that. Its just as bad what Stevie said that she did not go to the studio because albums don't sell. Both Lindsey and Stevie are liars about this recording.

[bwboy]

Lindsey like everyone else played the game. Do you really think Lindsey, Christine, Mick and John did not want to record a Fleetwood Mac album? Of course they did.

I agree completely that Lindsey was lying, or playing the game, as you say. But the post I responded to said it was Mick's decision to keep the album from being called Fleetwood Mac, not, say, the entire band's decision. It seemed like another example of people blaming Mick solely... first it was his scheme to keep the album from being called FM, then it was his scheme to get Lindsey out of the band.

[HomerMcvie]

I never think Holocaust jokes are funny:shrug:

WHO made a holocaust joke?

[HomerMcvie]

Homer is funny and that's what he's trying to be. You can't tell that?????? It's pretty obvious.

As the Chiffonheads circle their wagons...

BTW, :xoxo:

[sue]

Just a reminder, Lindsey did several interviews where he said the album was never meant to be a FM album... including one amusing interview where his agent or handler actually intervened when the interviewer pressed the point. But you say Mick made the choice to not call it a FM album. Guess Lindsey was lying, then?

Not that it matters to me what the reason was, but it is confusing when Lindsey made it very clear it was never meant to be a FM album.

I was just giving a “jokey” reply to Homer as to the reason why it wasn’t FM.
I don’t have an opinion in reality, just a light hearted aim at Mick....
I actually think it deserved to be BM in its own right it stands up.

[SteveMacD]

Lindsey like everyone else played the game. Do you really think Lindsey, Christine, Mick and John did not want to record a Fleetwood Mac album? Of course they did. However when Stevie was not joining them Lindsey and Christine were having so much fun they still moved forward with the project. They were not going to rub Stevie's face in the project. It also sounds a lot better than "We sat around and waited for Stevie but Stevie does not like us so we did the album anyway." Of course it sounds better to say. "Oh yes, this was our intention the entire time. We just wanted to put out this duo album from the start.
I doubt anyone seriously believes that. Its just as bad what Stevie said that she did not go to the studio because albums don't sell. Both Lindsey and Stevie are liars about this recording.

They made it too difficult and confusing. They should have called it Fleetwood Mac, explained the Stevie didn’t participate in the project due to solo commitments, but is still a member of the band and will be participating in the band’s 2018 tour. It wouldn’t have been a lie and wouldn’t have put Stevie on the spot. It wouldn’t even be the first time the band made an album that didn’t feature an active member (Then Play On).

[bwboy]

I was just giving a “jokey” reply to Homer as to the reason why it wasn’t FM.
I don’t have an opinion in reality, just a light hearted aim at Mick....
I actually think it deserved to be BM in its own right it stands up.

Sorry about my confusion, sue. With message boards and texting, sometimes it can be hard to tell when people are joking around. Thanks for setting me straight :thumbsup:

[sue]

Sorry about my confusion, sue. With message boards and texting, sometimes it can be hard to tell when people are joking around. Thanks for setting me straight :thumbsup:

👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻That’s okay, no worries...

[TrueFaith77]

They made it too difficult and confusing. They should have called it Fleetwood Mac, explained the Stevie didn’t participate in the project due to solo commitments, but is still a member of the band and will be participating in the band’s 2018 tour. It wouldn’t have been a lie and wouldn’t have put Stevie on the spot. It wouldn’t even be the first time the band made an album that didn’t feature an active member (Then Play On).

exactly

but it's all over now, baby blue

p.s. re: Homer's joke: it's what one calls HYPERBOLE, a rhetorical trope used to make a point using exaggeration. ... and everybody here knows it! as is proven by the fact that NOBODY rose up in defense of the buttery-bittery goodness that is brussel sprouts!

[elle]

And WHY didn't it have the FM name?

Lindsey isn't in the group now, and it's still FM.

So Lindsey, Chris, John, and Dick do a record, and THAT'S not FM???!

It’s so idiotic especially now isn’t it? When all these self righteous people keep bringing up that Fleetwood and Mac are still there and therefore is Fleetwood Mac. Heeelllllllooooooo!?

[elle]

You are forgetting the fact that they didn’t have the Fleetwood Mac name.

Exactly. Unlike current penguins.

[elle]

The BuckVie shows I attended were far from tame. Especially, the sold out Greek Show. That was a show I'll never forget.

Oh BuckVie shows were several levels of energy above any FM show in recent decades, no comparison there!

(Well....... once when opening Trouble was outta way.)

[Murrow]

I guess the tame thing referred more to the album than anything.

What little I saw of the shows on YouTube they looked like subdued fully lit small venue affairs compared to Mac shows.

[Macfan4life]

They made it too difficult and confusing. They should have called it Fleetwood Mac, explained the Stevie didn’t participate in the project due to solo commitments, but is still a member of the band and will be participating in the band’s 2018 tour. It wouldn’t have been a lie and wouldn’t have put Stevie on the spot. It wouldn’t even be the first time the band made an album that didn’t feature an active member (Then Play On).
Of course they should have called it Fleetwood Mac. But are you crazy? They would never put their "star" in the corner. Only one member gets treated this way. If it was Christine or Lindsey who did not want to record, they would have replaced them and called it Fleetwood Mac.

[Angel75]

Excuse me for apparently being illiterate! I had no idea! Fine, you hate her MORE than Hitler. I still find it disgusting that you would rank her higher on your hate list than someone who literally caused the DEATHS of millions of people. Even if you were joking. The Holocaust was a real thing that affected the lives of so many people, and still affects many today. Whatever Stevie did cannot be worse than that.

I don't see the point of arguing with you anymore. It's clear that only a select few on this board are allowed to continually express their opinions without repercussions. I can normally ignore things said on here, but this took things too far, and I couldn't stay silent.

Agreed. Stevie HATED more than Hitler.....? What kind of person even puts them in the same sentence and thinks that is comical? Definitely someone lacking majorly in some department.

[Murrow]

Of course they should have called it Fleetwood Mac. But are you crazy? They would never put their "star" in the corner. Only one member gets treated this way. If it was Christine or Lindsey who did not want to record, they would have replaced them and called it Fleetwood Mac.

It’s worth remembering that when they talked about replacing Chris with Sheryl Crow it was Lindsey who NIXED the idea (ho ho).

Also while one can easily get session players like Brett to do keyboards, the minute a guitarist leaves (or gets pushed) very few groups would just use a sidesman - in come the replacements.

[HomerMcvie]

Agreed. Stevie HATED more than Hitler.....? What kind of person even puts them in the same sentence and thinks that is comical? Definitely someone lacking majorly in some department.

Oh, lighten up.

You're free to have your opinion, and I am to have mine.

And believe it or not, I'm not seeking your approval.:laugh:

Have a good day.:wavey:

[Buster]

Homer is funny.

No he isn’t. He’s a pathetic misogynist who spends all day long on a discussion board about a band that no longer exists posting his anger about Stevie Nicks. That’s as far from funny as it gets. As he’s the primary reason this board is a toilet with little traction. :laugh:

[HomerMcvie]

No he isn’t. He’s a pathetic misogynist who spends all day long on a discussion board about a band that no longer exists posting his anger about Stevie Nicks. That’s as far from funny as it gets. As he’s the primary reason this board is a toilet with little traction. :laugh:

You're calling me things that aren't allowed here, pal.

But you've gotten away with it before, so you probably will again.:confused:

[Angel75]

No he isn’t. He’s a pathetic misogynist who spends all day long on a discussion board about a band that no longer exists posting his anger about Stevie Nicks. That’s as far from funny as it gets. As he’s the primary reason this board is a toilet with little traction. :laugh:

Well said. Just comes across as an ugly, angry sad individual with nothing better to do with his time.