What's next for the man who defined the Rumours line up? What's next for the rest?

[secret love]

Many fans here feel that Lindsey somewhat defined the Rumours line up and without him it's not Fleetwood Mac. I partly agree. He produced and played on so many of their songs and is probably the only Remoura 5 member who can produce and craft an entire song from start to finish all on his own without any input from someone else. Christine might be able to do that, Stevie certainly can't and Mick and John have Buckley's chance.
But what seems to be missing from the discussion about Lindsey is the many positives from him leaving- solo pop album to drop probably sooner than expected! Solo tour! Chance of reunion with just Christine to make a proper BuckVie album rather than a quasi Fleetwood Mac album with Mick and John.
So- what are you looking forward to with Lindsey?
And- what are you either dreading or excited about with the new Fleetwood Mac?

[ryan4136]

I think you might be disappointed here. Several hurdles for LB to jump over now.

[TrueFaith77]

I think you might be disappointed here. Several hurdles for LB to jump over now.

Exactly. They did him beyond dirty

[elle]

I think you might be disappointed here. Several hurdles for LB to jump over now.

Exactly. They did him beyond dirty

i know. i love it when fans are like "positive positive positive". there's nothing positive so far for Lindsey. now IF he announces that Best Of release in the next few weeks and a tour to start in the early fall - then it will be positive. :nod:

but we have no idea how tied his hands are right now and whether he can do anything and what and when. :distress:

so yeah some of us are realists. he's tied to the label that already screwed him up at least once this year, that we know of. we have no idea how much they'll screw him up now when he doesn't have FM corporation behind him. promoters for the solo tour were also tied to FM corporation as far as we know, so that's out too and has to start from scratch. the list goes on.

[Storms123]

i know. i love it when fans are like "positive positive positive". there's nothing positive so far for Lindsey. now IF he announces that Best Of release in the next few weeks and a tour to start in the early fall - then it will be positive. :nod:

but we have no idea how tied his hands are right now and whether he can do anything and what and when. :distress:

so yeah some of us are realists. he's tied to the label that already screwed him up at least once this year, that we know of. we have no idea how much they'll screw him up now when he doesn't have FM corporation behind him. promoters for the solo tour were also tied to FM corporation as far as we know, so that's out too and has to start from scratch. the list goes on.


When you take a step back and realize the possible ramifications of the bands actions, it just makes you sick all over again.

[Storms123]

Many fans here feel that Lindsey somewhat defined the Rumours line up and without him it's not Fleetwood Mac. I partly agree. He produced and played on so many of their songs and is probably the only Remoura 5 member who can produce and craft an entire song from start to finish all on his own without any input from someone else. Christine might be able to do that, Stevie certainly can't and Mick and John have Buckley's chance.
But what seems to be missing from the discussion about Lindsey is the many positives from him leaving- solo pop album to drop probably sooner than expected! Solo tour! Chance of reunion with just Christine to make a proper BuckVie album rather than a quasi Fleetwood Mac album with Mick and John.
So- what are you looking forward to with Lindsey?
And- what are you either dreading or excited about with the new Fleetwood Mac?

I don't want him to tour again with Christine. I am probably more disgusted by her in all of this, given they were just recently on tour, did the album,..... Staring at her fingernails through that entire interview, claiming she wasn't aware (I am sure it's true she wasn't aware) but that just highlights the larger dysfunction in all of this. Nope--don't want him to tour with her again at all.

[SteveMacD]

It depends on his priorities what he does. He’s got enough money that he and his family can live comfortably for the rest of their lives and he could still put out albums and go on tours. It’s not like he’s exactly some obscure artist. He’s a legend who has had some really big hits.

If artists like Richard Thompson and Guided by Voices, who aren’t multi-millionaires and never had hits, can tour and make a living, why can’t Lindsey?

[HomerMcvie]

I don't want him to tour again with Christine. I am probably more disgusted by her in all of this, given they were just recently on tour, did the album,..... Staring at her fingernails through that entire interview, claiming she wasn't aware (I am sure it's true she wasn't aware) but that just highlights the larger dysfunction in all of this. Nope--don't want him to tour with her again at all.
I'm torn on saying the first part. Buck Vie was my favorite FM project(album and tour) in many years. I loved the connection they(appeared) to share.

So even though I'd love another Buck Vie, I hope he never goes back again, to FM. F*ck them for doing him this way. AndI agree that I'm most let down by Christine. She COULD HAVE saved the day, but she didn't do sh*t. Superwoman? I used to think so. Company shill is more like it... :shocked:

[elle]

It depends on his priorities what he does. He’s got enough money that he and his family can live comfortably for the rest of their lives and he could still put out albums and go on tours. It’s not like he’s exactly some obscure artist. He’s a legend who has had some really big hits.

If artists like Richard Thompson and Guided by Voices, who aren’t multi-millionaires and never had hits, can tour and make a living, why can’t Lindsey?

:laugh::laugh: you keep saying this over and over. you keep assuming he's not tied to the label - when we know he is.

[SteveMacD]

:laugh::laugh: you keep saying this over and over. you keep assuming he's not tied to the label - when we know he is.

He could still do a tour independent of the label. He might lose money on it, but artists do it all the time.

[elle]

He could still do a tour independent of the label. He might lose money on it, but artists do it all the time.

noooooooo..... really?????? :p :rolleyes:

yes he did all that in the past. and yes many artists do it all the time. and he will be able in some future too, i'm sure. the question is NOW. this year. the year he was planning to do it and it was all set up already. and it is not now. so no that's not positive. we have no idea how he's tied up now. i know he WANTS to do a tour this fall. hopefully he actually can.

[WatchChain]

Part of me is still pissed off and OUTRAGED over The Mac's decision to FIRE Lindsey.

Part of me foolishly suspects that this is part of some grand scheme to give Lindsey and The Mac a few years apart....A trial separation of sorts. All setting the stage for a GRAND Rumours 5 REUNION/FAREWELL Tour in 2021-2022 that will send ticket sales through the roof. Perhaps Buckingham is "in on it". Maybe they just want to recreate the enthusiasm of "The Dance". What better way to do that than to have Buckingham "go his own way" for a spell?

I know, wishful thinking.

#WhoAreYouPeople?

[dreamsunwind]

Part of me is still pissed off and OUTRAGED over The Mac's decision to FIRE Lindsey.

Part of me foolishly suspects that this is part of some grand scheme to give Lindsey and The Mac a few years apart....A trial separation of sorts. All setting the stage for a GRAND Rumours 5 REUNION/FAREWELL Tour in 2021-2022 that will send ticket sales through the roof. Perhaps Buckingham is "in on it". Maybe they just want to recreate the enthusiasm of "The Dance". What better way to do that than to have Buckingham "go his own way" for a spell?

I know, wishful thinking.

#WhoAreYouPeople?

I would think that too if it wasn't for the fact they're too old. Christine would be 80 by the time that happens.

[Storms123]

I'm torn on saying the first part. Buck Vie was my favorite FM project(album and tour) in many years. I loved the connection they(appeared) to share.

So even though I'd love another Buck Vie, I hope he never goes back again, to FM. F*ck them for doing him this way. AndI agree that I'm most let down by Christine. She COULD HAVE saved the day, but she didn't do sh*t. Superwoman? I used to think so. Company shill is more like it... :shocked:

I loved the album, loved the show---pains me to say it, but I am more ticked off by Christine than anyone else. I also think she needs him (or FM) more than he needs her (I know that sounds harsh--musically I love her, but her time away from the band has taken it's toll--I think that's fair to say)
What I'd love is FM to come crawling back to HIM after this disaster rolls thru the US, and tell Mick to shove a drumstick up his...... That's what I would love.

[ryan4136]

LB isn’t interested in losing money on a tour. And I think there’s reason to believe his profits from the MAC tour was his plan for funding the solo tour. And it seems unlikely the label wants to release the solo album prior to a best of money grab. And it’s likely he might’ve had label support because they were thinking they might get a FM album. To say things become complicated is an understatement. LB is an artist and won’t stay silent forever. But everything that was in the works has likely been heavily slowed up.

I think the best thing that might come out of this is possibly an even newer batch of high intensity songs. Maybe he will channel his Not That Funny self and give us some gems.

[dreamsunwind]

I'm sure Lindsey will be fine. Like Jimmy Iovine said, he's as talented as anyone could ever be and it seems like he really loves going out in support of his solo projects. Plus, he's not stupid. I once read something where someone said Lindsey always had a knack for seeing how certain things would play out before they happened. Maybe he saw this coming?

I think the rest of the band are the ones to think about. How will the tour go? They're gonna need to seriously drop those prices consider the terrible ticket sales so far. And how about the guilt? I can just imagine a few years down the line how much this is gonna tug at Stevie.

[secondhandchain]

Part of me is still pissed off and OUTRAGED over The Mac's decision to FIRE Lindsey.

Part of me foolishly suspects that this is part of some grand scheme to give Lindsey and The Mac a few years apart....A trial separation of sorts. All setting the stage for a GRAND Rumours 5 REUNION/FAREWELL Tour in 2021-2022 that will send ticket sales through the roof. Perhaps Buckingham is "in on it". Maybe they just want to recreate the enthusiasm of "The Dance". What better way to do that than to have Buckingham "go his own way" for a spell?

I know, wishful thinking.

#WhoAreYouPeople?

Not at their age. That would be really stupid. Let's hold off and get together when we are 80? Not what is going on here.

[SteveMacD]

He could do another OMS tour. Hell, he could do it right and not have the karaoke background tracks. Just him playing solo acoustic guitar. Arrangements stripped to their very basics. It would be amazing, it would be his most artistic statement ever, and he could make a profit.

[ryan4136]

I think the plausible outcome is post Christmas/Spring tour.....likely a One Man Show, heavy backing tracks

[Lola]

He could do another OMS tour. Hell, he could do it right and not have the karaoke background tracks. Just him playing solo acoustic guitar. Arrangements stripped to their very basics. It would be amazing, it would be his most artistic statement ever, and he could make a profit.

I LOVE this idea

[HomerMcvie]

I loved the album, loved the show---pains me to say it, but I am more ticked off by Christine than anyone else. I also think she needs him (or FM) more than he needs her (I know that sounds harsh--musically I love her, but her time away from the band has taken it's toll--I think that's fair to say)
What I'd love is FM to come crawling back to HIM after this disaster rolls thru the US, and tell Mick to shove a drumstick up his...... That's what I would love.

I know. I think Christine has become somewhat frail, and you're right, she needs him far more than the other way around.

I'll never get over her not standing up for him.

If Lindsey is half the man I hope he is, he'll never go back. F*ck them for letting this be how the legacy ends. Going back is accepting that this was okay. F*ck them.

[Storms123]

He could do another OMS tour. Hell, he could do it right and not have the karaoke background tracks. Just him playing solo acoustic guitar. Arrangements stripped to their very basics. It would be amazing, it would be his most artistic statement ever, and he could make a profit.

I would love this....would be amazing

[iamnotafraid]

If Lindsey is half the man I hope he is, he'll never go back.

I feel the same.

[SteveMacD]

I'll never get over her not standing up for him.

Who’s to say she didn’t? However, he was voted off the island before they even told her about it. I’m sure she was not happy with any of them, and probably made that very clear under no uncertain terms.

But what’s she supposed to do? Leave the band again? And then what? Stay at home while all the legalities are worked out, losing more of whatever precious time she has left? And, it’s not like she doesn’t have her loyalties and allegiances with them, too.

She was put in a very awkward situation. I at least respect that she’s said nothing but glowing things about Lindsey in the wake of all this and isn’t throwing him under the bus. She’s made it clear that she wasn’t part of the decision and wasn’t happy about it, but is trying to make the best of the situation.

[Storms123]

I'm sure Lindsey will be fine. Like Jimmy Iovine said, he's as talented as anyone could ever be and it seems like he really loves going out in support of his solo projects. Plus, he's not stupid. I once read something where someone said Lindsey always had a knack for seeing how certain things would play out before they happened. Maybe he saw this coming?

I think the rest of the band are the ones to think about. How will the tour go? They're gonna need to seriously drop those prices consider the terrible ticket sales so far. And how about the guilt? I can just imagine a few years down the line how much this is gonna tug at Stevie.

When do you think they announce/make a decision on taking this boondoggle global?

[elle]

I think the plausible outcome is post Christmas/Spring tour.....likely a One Man Show, heavy backing tracks

no. i want his solo tour THIS fall, with the band. Best Of. as he had planned (and that's already pushed back from the original solo tour dates which were supposed to be happening now).

next spring he can tour the album of new music that he planned to release in Jan 2019, with added angry tracks about current situation. OMS would be great i loved OMS better than with the band actually.

[elle]

When do you think they announce/make a decision on taking this boondoggle global?

i'm hoping that John and Christine will walk after the spring US leg. like Christine did after the Dance.

[Storms123]

i'm hoping that John and Christine will walk after the spring US leg. like Christine did after the Dance.

If ticket sales stay like they are now, and reviews are not of the OWTS caliber--I don't think this goes global...if this is their farewell tour......wah wah.

Where are all the insiders now to tell us how rehearsals are going? Or to tell us if Neil has learned "Go Your Own Way" or "World is Turning" yet...lol

[dreamsunwind]

When do you think they announce/make a decision on taking this boondoggle global?

I'm sure they'll announce some ticket discounts soon enough. They have to or they're going to seriously run the risk of playing half empty arenas. I don't know what they thought, they're going to fire a critical member and then expect people to pay more?

[secondhandchain]

I'm sure they'll announce some ticket discounts soon enough. They have to or they're going to seriously run the risk of playing half empty arenas. I don't know what they thought, they're going to fire a critical member and then expect people to pay more?

The deserve nothing more then to go out with an absolute failure. That's what they deserve.

[SteveMacD]

The tour starts in five months. Hell, I didn’t get my LBCM tickets until a few days prior to the show. Lots of time. They may have to play on the Today show or something like that in August if sales are sluggish. I seriously doubt they’re too worried at this point.

[dreamsunwind]

The tour starts in five months. Hell, I didn’t get my LBCM tickets until a few days prior to the show. Lots of time. They may have to play on the Today show or something like that in August if sales are sluggish. I seriously doubt they’re too worried at this point.

That is true but there's still quite a big difference as to how this tour is selling compared to how previous tours sold during that same time. In Los Angeles at least, the last tour was mostly all filled up very quickly after going on sale. In bigger cities like that, that's usually how it works. People buy the tickets as soon as possible to get them before they sell out.

[SteveMacD]

I wouldn’t measure it by the last tour. The 2014 tour was a much bigger tour than the 2013 tour because there was a compelling reason for that tour. Christine retuning was something special, and even casual concert goers who might not actually know her name still knew the full classic Fleetwood Mac was back for the first time in a generation. I doubt this tour will be as successful as last tour, but it wouldn’t have been even if Lindsey was still in the band.

[GypsySorcerer]

I doubt this tour will be as successful as last tour, but it wouldn’t have been even if Lindsey was still in the band.

Perhaps. But if they billed it their as "their farewell tour," it probably would have been as successful. I work at a university, and FM is hugely popular with the students. They would have jumped at the chance to see the Rumours 5 one final time. Since most of them were born in the late 1990s to 2000, they are actually more familiar with Lindsey than Christine, since Christine only rejoined a few years ago.

[SteveMacD]

Perhaps. But if they billed it their as "their farewell tour," it probably would have been as successful.

I agree, but it being billed as a farewell tour was already off the table.

[Storms123]

“An Evening with Fleetwood Mac....the going down in a haze of confusion tour”

[jeets2000]

The tour starts in five months. Hell, I didn’t get my LBCM tickets until a few days prior to the show. Lots of time. They may have to play on the Today show or something like that in August if sales are sluggish. I seriously doubt they’re too worried at this point.

I remember thinking even a week out from Stevie's 24k tour in DC that the place was going to be half-full. I was surprised to see exactly how full it was on show night, but they did curtain off the upper deck. I got front row tickets the morning of the show, thanks to a surprising ticket drop. But the map looked similar to how it does now for many of these FM shows. I do think there's enough time for them to make up ground.

But it would serve them right if the arenas didn't fill. :mad:

[sasja]

I 'm not a bit worried about anything, knowing how Karma goes around in this universe.

Who knows what he inadvertently might not escape, while not traveling with that bunch.

And Lindsey is still, thankfully, in all other respects a fortunate human bean with a wonderful fam, those kids seem awesome too, and he has his health! ( or at least I never heard of him having to fight any major illnesses just yet) And his talent. And a cool studio at his house, right?
I am hoping he's not nearly as bend out of shape as we are, he deserves good times in his future.

Also, so he can give us some more good music. I am not just entirely altruistic.