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Storms123
04-30-2018, 04:42 PM
Is there any way to get a sense on how it’s going? I already got 3 emails from ticketmaster today. When I looked at the show at MSG out of curiosity, I noticed the upper tier, furthest seats away from stage, it says tix not available. I know for OWTS they were. Wondering if it’s by design to hold these back or intentional on the part of band mgt
I saw cities today where those seats were available. Pre-sales are generally designed to buy the best seats available. But the prices for this tour might be sending people to upper tiers or back of arena.
dreamsunwind
04-30-2018, 07:05 PM
The prices are astounding. $1,300 for the front. $700 for the M&G. Mick has absolutely no shame.
dontlookdown
04-30-2018, 09:35 PM
The prices are astounding. $1,300 for the front. $700 for the M&G. Mick has absolutely no shame.
Highest prices offered are 299. Anything above that is resale. (for regular tickets)
If it makes you feel any better, other bands do the meet and greet - Tom Petty did it for years. I think it's cheesy and I go for the music - not for the celebrity.
It's not Mick who decides the ticket prices - it's Live Nation, the venues, the insurance companies, the band management, the management for each musician, the agents, the production staff, and on down the line.
But I think it makes people feel better to be able to target one individual. It's the industry in general - and the cost of living in 2018.
To blame Mick would be the same as blaming Springsteen for charging the crazy prices for his NYC broadway theater run. He's up against the theater unions who won't budge on ticket prices. And it's very similar for Fleetwood Mac -- or any big name act that tours from arena to arena.
I haven't seen any decent tickets below $299. All the reasonably priced tickets are upper sections and nosebleed. (at least for the LA shows). They sold a lot for the Amex presale today.
If the first day of presale is any indication for the rest of the tour, there is huge demand to see Mike Campbell play with Fleetwood Mac.
I can't decide if I want to shell out that kind of money for what is likely the last Fleetwood Mac tour; or settle for crappy seats and feel detached from the show and watch as a quiet observer with mediocre sound...
WatchChain
04-30-2018, 09:54 PM
Somebody help me now! After being disgusted and outraged with this band's decision to fire Buckingham, I'm actually fighting back the urge to pull out my American Express Gold card to shell out $600 for two seats to this clown outfit.
God save me! I may be showing my face at this garage sale!
#SaveLindsey #WhoAreYouPeople
Somebody help me now! After being disgusted and outraged with this band's decision to fire Buckingham, I'm actually fighting back the urge to pull out my American Express Gold card to shell out $600 for two seats to this clown outfit.
God save me! I may be showing my face at this garage sale!
#SaveLindsey #WhoAreYouPeople
just say no!
save your money.
plus, amex presales are almost always crap. way better seats show up on drops closer to the show. and VIP / plats that don't sell lower the prices like 10 days before the show.
sodascouts
04-30-2018, 10:10 PM
$700 for the M&G. Mick has absolutely no shame.
Almost everyone I knew who did the M&G last time did it for the guaranteed ticket; meeting Mick was a boon, an incentive to pay more for the ticket, but not the sole reason to pay the money.
I seriously doubt the same number of people will pay $700 to meet him when they will not get a ticket in the bargain. In fact, I think Mr. Fleetwood may be in for a very rude awakening when he sees the number of people at his VIP events this tour.
WatchChain
04-30-2018, 10:11 PM
just say no!
save your money.
plus, amex presales are almost always crap. way better seats show up on drops closer to the show. and VIP / plats that don't sell lower the prices like 10 days before the show.
Thanks ELLE--you really know who to hold a gal back from the edge of insanity. I've just put the AMEX back inside my fringed carpet bag purse.
Should I feel that cash demon possess me again, remind me that I won't hear to comforting strains of "Never Going Back Again" and "Eyes of the World". Warn me that, although my love for The High Priestess is eternal, the magic will be gone.
ELLE, you are my rock throughout this battle.
#WhoAreYouPeople #Judas #ClownOutfit
dreamsunwind
04-30-2018, 10:20 PM
Highest prices offered are 299. Anything above that is resale. (for regular tickets)
If it makes you feel any better, other bands do the meet and greet - Tom Petty did it for years. I think it's cheesy and I go for the music - not for the celebrity.
It's not Mick who decides the ticket prices - it's Live Nation, the venues, the insurance companies, the band management, the management for each musician, the agents, the production staff, and on down the line.
But I think it makes people feel better to be able to target one individual. It's the industry in general - and the cost of living in 2018.
To blame Mick would be the same as blaming Springsteen for charging the crazy prices for his NYC broadway theater run. He's up against the theater unions who won't budge on ticket prices. And it's very similar for Fleetwood Mac -- or any big name act that tours from arena to arena.
I haven't seen any decent tickets below $299. All the reasonably priced tickets are upper sections and nosebleed. (at least for the LA shows). They sold a lot for the Amex presale today.
If the first day of presale is any indication for the rest of the tour, there is huge demand to see Mike Campbell play with Fleetwood Mac.
I can't decide if I want to shell out that kind of money for what is likely the last Fleetwood Mac tour; or settle for crappy seats and feel detached from the show and watch as a quiet observer with mediocre sound...
I'm not sure what you're talking about.... 60% of the tickets offered are FAR above 299.
I'm literally staring at the ticket page screen for one of the Forum shows and the front is well over 1,000. The MIDDLE averages at about 500. Only the most nosebleeds are affordable.
And considering that Mick is the one who does M&G, I do blame him.
dreamsunwind
04-30-2018, 10:22 PM
Almost everyone I knew who did the M&G last time did it for the guaranteed ticket; meeting Mick was a boon, an incentive to pay more for the ticket, but not the sole reason to pay the money.
I seriously doubt the same number of people will pay $700 to meet him when they will not get a ticket in the bargain. In fact, I think Mr. Fleetwood may be in for a very rude awakening when he sees the number of people at his VIP events this tour.
It's just insane. These prices are higher than the last tour, which was already ridiculously priced. You expect people to pay even more WITHOUT 90% of your stage energy?
dontlookdown
04-30-2018, 10:47 PM
I'm not sure what you're talking about.... 60% of the tickets offered are FAR above 299.
I'm literally staring at the ticket page screen for one of the Forum shows and the front is well over 1,000. The MIDDLE averages at about 500. Only the most nosebleeds are affordable.
And considering that Mick is the one who does M&G, I do blame him.
Those are all verified resale tickets. They were purchased for face value $299 and people are re-selling them for whatever they think the market will bear.
If you're looking at tickets through the map, those are seats that have already been sold and are put back up for sale.
I think the face value for the Forum shows start at 69 and go up to 299.
Those are all verified resale tickets. They were purchased for face value $299 and people are re-selling them for whatever they think the market will bear.
If you're looking at tickets through the map, those are seats that have already been sold and are put back up for sale.
I think the face value for the Forum shows start at 69 and go up to 299.
i don't know what you are looking at. they are in red?
i checked DC and Baltimore and regular ticket prices for back of the floor ar $249 plus fees, which means over $300. row O on the floor in DC is platinum, $525 plus fees (so i guess 600+). lower bawl the same plats.
multiple people have posted that front row VIP or whatever tix are around $1000 plus fees, depending on the venue. these are all regular ticket prices - but note these are platinums, so if they don't sell they'll lower the price.
no resales yet.
sodascouts
04-30-2018, 10:57 PM
Those are all verified resale tickets. They were purchased for face value $299 and people are re-selling them for whatever they think the market will bear.
If you're looking at tickets through the map, those are seats that have already been sold and are put back up for sale.
I think the face value for the Forum shows start at 69 and go up to 299.
The "verified" high priced ones you are seeing on TM now are not "resale" tickets. They are what TM euphemistically calls "Official Platinum." TM is helping the artist and/or "event provider" scalp their own tickets. Here is how they explain it:
What are Official Platinum Seats?
Official Platinum Seats are premium tickets to concerts and other events made available by artists and event providers through Ticketmaster. They give fans fair and safe access to some of the best seats in the house.
Are Official Platinum Seats resale tickets?
No. Official Platinum Seats were not purchased initially and then posted for resale; they are being sold for the first time through Ticketmaster. Ticketmaster's Official Platinum Seats program enables market-based pricing (adjusting prices according to supply and demand) for live event tickets, similar to how airline tickets and hotel rooms are sold. The goal is to give the most passionate fans fair and safe access to the best tickets, while enabling artists and other people involved in staging live events to price tickets closer to their true value.
What is the Current Price per ticket?
The price you pay is the original price of the ticket. Official Platinum Seats were not purchased initially and then posted for resale; they are being sold for the first time through Ticketmaster on behalf of the artist or event provider.
http://www.ticketmaster.com/h/platinum/buyerfaq.html?_ga=2.114933636.2019528006.1525136746-1836244851.1524739879
LB Freakazoid
05-01-2018, 12:01 AM
Didn't know where to post this...
I'm on the Tom Petty email list and got an email today advertising FM's tour... oh my...
HomerMcvie
05-01-2018, 12:57 AM
The "verified" high priced ones you are seeing on TM now are not "resale" tickets. They are what TM euphemistically calls "Official Platinum." TM is helping the artist and/or "event provider" scalp their own tickets. Here is how they explain it:
What are Official Platinum Seats?
Official Platinum Seats are premium tickets to concerts and other events made available by artists and event providers through Ticketmaster. They give fans fair and safe access to some of the best seats in the house.
Are Official Platinum Seats resale tickets?
No. Official Platinum Seats were not purchased initially and then posted for resale; they are being sold for the first time through Ticketmaster. Ticketmaster's Official Platinum Seats program enables market-based pricing (adjusting prices according to supply and demand) for live event tickets, similar to how airline tickets and hotel rooms are sold. The goal is to give the most passionate fans fair and safe access to the best tickets, while enabling artists and other people involved in staging live events to price tickets closer to their true value.
What is the Current Price per ticket?
The price you pay is the original price of the ticket. Official Platinum Seats were not purchased initially and then posted for resale; they are being sold for the first time through Ticketmaster on behalf of the artist or event provider.
http://www.ticketmaster.com/h/platinum/buyerfaq.html?_ga=2.114933636.2019528006.1525136746-1836244851.1524739879
That's the biggest load of SH*T that I've ever read. No wonder the ENTIRE WORLD hates Ticketbastard. It equals the bands saying, "we LOVE our rich fans, and f*ck the poor ones".
sodascouts
05-01-2018, 09:58 AM
That's the biggest load of SH*T that I've ever read. No wonder the ENTIRE WORLD hates Ticketbastard. It equals the bands saying, "we LOVE our rich fans, and f*ck the poor ones".
It is a little galling to see TM claim that the people who spend a fortunate on Official Platinum tickets are the "most passionate fans."
No, they're simply the richest fans.
(Yes, there are some big fans who save up and break the bank to get up front, but most of those sitting in the high priced seats are high income bracket.)
bombaysaffires
05-01-2018, 02:42 PM
Are Official Platinum Seats resale tickets?
No. Official Platinum Seats were not purchased initially and then posted for resale; they are being sold for the first time through Ticketmaster. Ticketmaster's Official Platinum Seats program enables market-based pricing (adjusting prices according to supply and demand) for live event tickets, similar to how airline tickets and hotel rooms are sold. The goal is to give the most passionate fans fair and safe access to the best tickets, while enabling artists and other people involved in staging live events to price tickets closer to their true value.
this is such crap-- it's not fair pricing at all, because you could easily buy a ticket a higher price when demand was predicted to be high (like now) only to find it selling for a lot less when the market shows that the demand is not as high (like closer to the show date when they realize tickets are not selling).
That's like when you call for an Uber or Lyft and it's $10 early in the evening and then it's up to $75 or whatever around midnight when everyone's trying to get home safely after drinking at a club. (Last New Year's Uber charged a rider in Toronto $14,400 for a 20 min ride across town). So whenever you decide to pull the trigger and buy your tickets you are gambling that the price won't go down later. They count on you wanting tickets in hand at any price versus the risk of tickets selling out or going up.
I'm so glad I started going to concerts when you could get tickets for $10. I still have all my ticket stubs and Peter Frampton at the height of his fame was $10.00 and even the Bee Gees at the height of their fame were like $15. In today's money those would be like $40.00 and $60.00 (per my currency calculator). $1300?? you gotta be f'ing kidding me. It's so people like Stevie and Mick can continue the lifestyle they had when albums sold more. Why don't THEY have to adjust to the changing market like everyone else? Coz we're suckas.
HomerMcvie
05-01-2018, 03:38 PM
this is such crap-- it's not fair pricing at all, because you could easily buy a ticket a higher price when demand was predicted to be high (like now) only to find it selling for a lot less when the market shows that the demand is not as high (like closer to the show date when they realize tickets are not selling).
That's like when you call for an Uber or Lyft and it's $10 early in the evening and then it's up to $75 or whatever around midnight when everyone's trying to get home safely after drinking at a club. (Last New Year's Uber charged a rider in Toronto $14,400 for a 20 min ride across town). So whenever you decide to pull the trigger and buy your tickets you are gambling that the price won't go down later. They count on you wanting tickets in hand at any price versus the risk of tickets selling out or going up.
I'm so glad I started going to concerts when you could get tickets for $10. I still have all my ticket stubs and Peter Frampton at the height of his fame was $10.00 and even the Bee Gees at the height of their fame were like $15. In today's money those would be like $40.00 and $60.00 (per my currency calculator). $1300?? you gotta be f'ing kidding me. It's so people like Stevie and Mick can continue the lifestyle they had when albums sold more. Why don't THEY have to adjust to the changing market like everyone else? Coz we're suckas.
I agree. It's completely insane now. The problem is that too many people ARE willing to pay $1300! I paid $350 for OWTS, and I swore that it was a one time thing. Okay, then I decided I'd do it again, for whenever their next tour would be(my rationale of this, is that they're the band of my life, and someone is gonna kick the bucket, then it's all over). Well, guess what? It's now ALL OVER.
IF I did change my mind for this tour(which is doubtful), I would ONLY consider the absolute cheapest nosebleed POS seat they have. And I'm sure my limit would be like $75. Because FM is dead, now.
And I love that I started seeing shows when I was in JR High. Peter Frampton was my first(non country) concert. My hippie aunt took me, and I think it was $6(I still have the stub somewhere). FM Mirage? We were like row 12 or something, and the ticket was $16!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BigAl84
05-01-2018, 06:24 PM
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jeets2000
05-03-2018, 12:31 PM
So, I'm a member of the Tom Petty Highway Companion Club (was $50 to get first access to tix on their last tour... probably worth it). As someone mentioned earlier, they emailed saying "a very limited allotment of tickets" would be available to folks with the code. That started at 10am, and granted this is only anecdotal, but at 1:30pm today there are literally hundreds of tickets available for the Washington, DC show. What was also interested was that tickets that appeared to be $229 earlier in the week were now going for $199. Maybe they're different seats, but they're on the floor and in the same section as the $229 Amex pre-sale tickets, so... :shrug: Anyway, just reporting from the field with what I saw.
It took me a while, but I think I'm finally at peace with not going to see this tour. Raising ticket prices is one thing, but doing so for THIS line-up ("We're a new band" :rolleyes:)... no thanks.
Well it would appear sales aren't what they expected them to be. I've been watching all of the California shows since Monday, and today all venues appear to have dropped their prices. Anywhere from $20-$60.
I'm thinking I might wait until day of the show. Maybe by that time they'll pay ME to take a seat! :D
lovethemac1
05-03-2018, 01:27 PM
I agree. It's completely insane now. The problem is that too many people ARE willing to pay $1300! I paid $350 for OWTS, and I swore that it was a one time thing. Okay, then I decided I'd do it again, for whenever their next tour would be(my rationale of this, is that they're the band of my life, and someone is gonna kick the bucket, then it's all over). Well, guess what? It's now ALL OVER.
IF I did change my mind for this tour(which is doubtful), I would ONLY consider the absolute cheapest nosebleed POS seat they have. And I'm sure my limit would be like $75. Because FM is dead, now.
And I love that I started seeing shows when I was in JR High. Peter Frampton was my first(non country) concert. My hippie aunt took me, and I think it was $6(I still have the stub somewhere). FM Mirage? We were like row 12 or something, and the ticket was $16!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Love all of this, this is EXACTLY how I feel. Thank you for summarizing it for me!!:xoxo:
Feather Blade
05-03-2018, 02:01 PM
Well it would appear sales aren't what they expected them to be. I've been watching all of the California shows since Monday, and today all venues appear to have dropped their prices. Anywhere from $20-$60.
I'm thinking I might wait until day of the show. Maybe by that time they'll pay ME to take a seat! :D
Someone reported in the MacNuggets thread that 12 out of 20 of the best selling ticketed events currently are Mac shows though it is early yet, I suppose sales could definitely fall off at some point. I can't decide whether to grab tickets soon or wait things out and hope for ticket drops later.
lilyfee
05-03-2018, 02:04 PM
I was disappointed in the ticket options for shows nearby me. I think I’ll wait until tomorrow when they hopefully expand the options.
StevieandChris
05-03-2018, 02:59 PM
I tried to do the Livenation pre-sale for MSG and it said I could only get a single seat based on what was available. Have never seen that message bolefore. Will try again for public on-sale. I like to go with a friend.
HomerMcvie
05-03-2018, 04:23 PM
Love all of this, this is EXACTLY how I feel. Thank you for summarizing it for me!!:xoxo:
You're welcome.
They let greed and petty bickering ruin the legacy they've been building for 43 years. It's over, now. RIP FM.
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