Grammy museum BuckVie q&a Oct 11 (sold out)

[elle]

Surprised nobody started a thread on this - it showed up yesterday and sold out within 5 minutes on presale today. Not sure whether they'll be offering additional tickets during regular onsale or they're all gone.

[FuzzyPlum]

Surprised nobody started a thread on this - it showed up yesterday and sold out within 5 minutes on presale today. Not sure whether they'll be offering additional tickets during regular onsale or they're all gone.

Not following the original topic per-se (sorry Elle), but...

With regards to Grammy's in general, I must confess I'm a bit ignorant...

when are nominees announced?
are Buckingham and McVie realistically viable for any awards?
are they eligible for a 'Best newcomer award'?

tar

[elle]

Not following the original topic per-se (sorry Elle), but...

With regards to Grammy's in general, I must confess I'm a bit ignorant...

when are nominees announced?
are Buckingham and McVie realistically viable for any awards?
are they eligible for a 'Best newcomer award'?

tar

Haha love it!

I'd be surprised if they were viable for any of those awards... unless Grammys would measure UK success ;)

[FuzzyPlum]

Haha love it!

I'd be surprised if they were viable for any of those awards... unless Grammys would measure UK success ;)

Yes, I know its pushing the boat out... but technically I'm sure they'd be eligible as a new act, wouldn't they?

[FuzzyPlum]

A CONVERSATION WITH LINDSEY BUCKINGHAM AND CHRISTINE MCVIE

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Lindsey Buckingham and Christine McVie are two links of the figurative chain that once made up one of the most popular bands of the ’70s, Fleetwood Mac. Though the two have been making music together off and on for nearly half a century, it didn’t occur to them until recently to begin making music as a duo. Their recent collaboration turned out to be a success, leading to their first self-titled album, which became available to the public, June 9, and began their North American tour June 21. Buckingham and McVie, who have shared a mutual respect and admiration for each other since their days in Fleetwood Mac, decided it was time to combine their individual musical talents. The album is already receiving rave reviews from Rolling Stone and Variety, among others. The album features classic Fleetwood Mac tones, while also showing fans a fresh side of these two artists. Much of the album was recorded at The Village Studios in Los Angeles, the same recording studio wherein Fleetwood Mac recorded several albums. Drawing on their classic style while exploring fresh new sounds, Buckingham and McVie created a unique album, in a way paying homage to their musical beginnings, some 40 years ago. Before they head back out on tour on Oct. 14 for another 22 shows as part of their successful tour in support of the new album, the GRAMMY Museum is thrilled to welcome Lindsey Buckingham and Christine McVie to the Clive Davis Theater for an intimate conversation about their collaboration and distinguished careers. The evening will also feature a special screening of a short documentary on the making of the album, and will be hosted by Executive Director of the GRAMMY Museum, Scott Goldman.

A beefed out version of the 'Making the album' promo?

[Macfan4life]

This is so exciting. It almost makes me want to dress as a Stevie impersonator and fight my way on stage, only to be tackled by security, and dragged to jail. Now THAT would be a night to remember.
In fact I believe every one of their gigs should have such a surprising event. When you least expect it.....oh lord...here she comes (again) :eek:

[AlexD]

Hope everyone here on The Ledge is doing well. "it's been a longgggg time"

[HomerMcvie]

This is so exciting. It almost makes me want to dress as a Stevie impersonator and fight my way on stage, only to be tackled by security, and dragged to jail. Now THAT would be a night to remember.
In fact I believe every one of their gigs should have such a surprising event. When you least expect it.....oh lord...here she comes (again) :eek:

I'll bail you out!!!!!


Be screaming, "but Lindsey really loves meeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!" as they drag you away!:wavey:

[elle]

A CONVERSATION WITH LINDSEY BUCKINGHAM AND CHRISTINE MCVIE

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Lindsey Buckingham and Christine McVie are two links of the figurative chain that once made up one of the most popular bands of the ’70s, Fleetwood Mac. Though the two have been making music together off and on for nearly half a century, it didn’t occur to them until recently to begin making music as a duo. Their recent collaboration turned out to be a success, leading to their first self-titled album, which became available to the public, June 9, and began their North American tour June 21. Buckingham and McVie, who have shared a mutual respect and admiration for each other since their days in Fleetwood Mac, decided it was time to combine their individual musical talents. The album is already receiving rave reviews from Rolling Stone and Variety, among others. The album features classic Fleetwood Mac tones, while also showing fans a fresh side of these two artists. Much of the album was recorded at The Village Studios in Los Angeles, the same recording studio wherein Fleetwood Mac recorded several albums. Drawing on their classic style while exploring fresh new sounds, Buckingham and McVie created a unique album, in a way paying homage to their musical beginnings, some 40 years ago. Before they head back out on tour on Oct. 14 for another 22 shows as part of their successful tour in support of the new album, the GRAMMY Museum is thrilled to welcome Lindsey Buckingham and Christine McVie to the Clive Davis Theater for an intimate conversation about their collaboration and distinguished careers. The evening will also feature a special screening of a short documentary on the making of the album, and will be hosted by Executive Director of the GRAMMY Museum, Scott Goldman.

A beefed out version of the 'Making the album' promo?

links for tix in case some will still be available later / on regular onsale -

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[RudieCantFail]

Will they seriously enforce "no cameras allowed" because it would be too bad if no video was allowed to be taken. Someone will go rogue, I hope.

What are the odds that the Grammys people will record and upload this online?

[elle]

Will they seriously enforce "no cameras allowed" because it would be too bad if no video was allowed to be taken. Someone will go rogue, I hope.

What are the odds that the Grammys people will record and upload this online?

i hope they don't because i'm counting on everyone that will be going to give us some footage!

however i was recently at the show for a newer band where they locked everyone's phones in Yondr boxes at the entrance to the venue and there was no way to use them. hope that doesn't happen here! i have to say that at that show they didn't search bags too thoroughly so if you had a small camera and were really stealth with it theoretically there was a chance to use it... i think.

[elle]

Will they seriously enforce "no cameras allowed" because it would be too bad if no video was allowed to be taken. Someone will go rogue, I hope.

What are the odds that the Grammys people will record and upload this online?

oh and welcome - good to see you here!! :wavey:

[RudieCantFail]

Thank you, Elle. It's good to be here, especially for the 2nd leg of the tour coming up.

[amycondit]

Hi Elle,

Thank you so much For the Grammy museum info! How did you find out? I'm frustrated---I have google alerts for Lindsey, Fleetwood Mac, and Stevie and nothing came up in advance. I'm hopeful that some tix will be available for Non-pre-sale, though! :)

[elle]

Hi Elle,

Thank you so much For the Grammy museum info! How did you find out? I'm frustrated---I have google alerts for Lindsey, Fleetwood Mac, and Stevie and nothing came up in advance. I'm hopeful that some tix will be available for Non-pre-sale, though! :)

Yes it seems really hard to find. A friend posted in our LB Facebook group (its public and I think you are a part of it - Real Savage Like forum).

Good luck I hope you manage to get some tix, maybe on general onsale!

[jkmaletic]

Will they seriously enforce "no cameras allowed" because it would be too bad if no video was allowed to be taken. Someone will go rogue, I hope.

What are the odds that the Grammys people will record and upload this online?

Stevie did one of these in 2011 that I went to and they were pretty strict about the cameras. The theater is tiny and there will be people watching for people recording. However, they do archive video of these events. They are sometimes available later online, but they are always available at the Grammy Museum in their archive section to watch.

Have fun.

Jamie

[amycondit]

Hi Elle and All:

So bummed, I had a couple of screens open,got in the waiting room 4 minutes prior, and then no tickets available! Maybe I'll have luck with resellers or I'll just go downtown that day and see if people are trying to get rid of their tix.

Thanks for the reminder of the LB Facebook group-I'm not on Facebook that much, but hearing news like that first is a good impetus to be on there!

Best to everyone,
Amy

[bombaysaffires]

A CONVERSATION WITH LINDSEY BUCKINGHAM AND CHRISTINE MCVIE

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Lindsey Buckingham and Christine McVie are two links of the figurative chain that once made up one of the most popular bands of the ’70s, Fleetwood Mac.

did anyone else notice this sentence?

it doesn't say they are two links of the chain that MAKES UP FM, it says they are two links of the chain that ONCE MADE UP..... past tense... the band

the links that USED TO make up FM rather than the links that DO make up FM

Now, maybe whoever wrote this didn't realize what they wrote, or didn't think it through. But then again,

[HomerMcvie]

did anyone else notice this sentence?

it doesn't say they are two links of the chain that MAKES UP FM, it says they are two links of the chain that ONCE MADE UP..... past tense... the band

the links that USED TO make up FM rather than the links that DO make up FM

Now, maybe whoever wrote this didn't realize what they wrote, or didn't think it through. But then again,
People are stupid. They probably weren't certain that Christine had come back or something.

If in doubt, just reread my first three words. Lord I had a day today, with my mind competely boggled by how stupid they actually are. I'm amazed some people are able to continue breathing without life support.

[elle]

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still looking for audio - i know there must be at least one floating around. hopefully the museum will post the video/audio.

[jbrownsjr]

I attended and it was amazing to be in the presence of greatness.

There wasn't much new of anything said. Lindsey took a few indirect jabs at Stevie. He basically said he couldn't imagine being an artist and not wanting to write or be creative. He then said (in a round about Lindsey way) it's lucky for a band like Fleetwood Mac that the fans are ok constantly hearing the live hits and having 3 generations that expect to hear those hits. When asked what it was like to do BuckVie and then go to Dodgers' Stadium, he stated, "It's a mind****." He clearly would rather do the BuckVie shows and not FMac.

Christine was her usual funny, clever, gorgeous and slender self. She wore her brown snake skin leather with her light blue jeans, beautiful red scarf, and the white shoes.
The woman has legs for days.

She again forgot she toured solo in 1984 and was able to experience the intimate theaters across the USA. She's so humble, almost to a fault. Lindsey gave her a lot of props and the moderator did as well. Going from blues to adjusting her music to Bob Welch and then LB/SN era. When asked how her music changed as a songwriter over all those years. Christine: I don't think about it. I just write for the album. (I'm paraphrasing)

They joked about the Christine songs that FM attempted as a 4 piece. He remembered Don't Stop. But then, when a few people shouted out, Say You Love Me... Lindsey said, "No we didn't" (to the crowd) And a few people said, "oh yes you did." And Christine laughed. So Lindsey obviously blocked out that horrible moment when Stevie tried to sing both songs. He started trying to sing it on stage in his chair and then just stopped and Christine watched him with a smirk.

This event was so much fun. The genuine bond between Christine and Lindsey is so strong and really very sweet. There's absolutely no acting or faking that I see in any of it. It's just beautiful.

[HomerMcvie]

They are beautiful together, and all that phony CRAP is missing, like he portrays with OGB. You can tell that they love and respect each other, and truly are enjoying this partnership.

I'm jealous that you got to go, but it's only 16 days until my next show! :blob2::blob2::blob2:

[jbrownsjr]

They are beautiful together, and all that phony CRAP is missing, like he portrays with OGB. You can tell that they love and respect each other, and truly are enjoying this partnership.

I'm jealous that you got to go, but it's only 16 days until my next show! :blob2::blob2::blob2:

Christine said Fleetwood Mac is a Carnival.

[HomerMcvie]

Christine said Fleetwood Mac is a Carnival.

I didn't think carnivals had farm animals...:]

[jbrownsjr]

I didn't think carnivals had farm animals...:]

LOL.. you are too much. But, that was good... :laugh:

[secondhandchain]

Do carnivals have "one of the premiere song writers in the world"? According to the queen that's what Tom Petty told her she is. LOL If I were recounting that story to someone I would have said "he told me I'm a good songwriter, go write your own song" BUT NOT her!:laugh::laugh:

[button-lip]

Do carnivals have "one of the premiere song writers in the world"? According to the queen that's what Tom Petty told her she is. LOL If I were recounting that story to someone I would have said "he told me I'm a good songwriter, go write your own song" BUT NOT her!:laugh::laugh:

Why everything always has to be about her? Instead of talking about her longtime friend she turned a sweet story with a nice advice into a self-glorification of her songwriter career. :shrug:

Too bad she didn't tell that story of Tom wanting Lindsey to join The Heartbreakers during the 90's... I'm sure she blocked that story. :lol:

[AliceLover]

I'm in the minority, but I loved that 4 piece version of Say You Love Me. Lindsey's guitar was spot on.

[HomerMcvie]

Why everything always has to be about her? Instead of talking about her longtime friend she turned a sweet story with a nice advice into a self-glorification of her songwriter career. :shrug:

Too bad she didn't tell that story of Tom wanting Lindsey to join The Heartbreakers during the 90's... I'm sure she blocked that story. :lol:

Because most of her fans are just like her. Self absorbed.


And btw, I've really missed your presence here lately. :xoxo:

[haleyd]

Jesus, coming on here is so frustrating anymore. How is it that no matter what the thread is about it almost always ends up going off on some wild tangent with a bunch of you just bashing Stevie?! (and usually bashing her about something totally unrelated to the actual thread topic.... i.e. this thread)
It's no wonder The Ledge has gotten the reputation all over social media that it has. What a shame. :rolleyes:

[haleyd]

But then, when a few people shouted out, Say You Love Me... Lindsey said, "No we didn't" (to the crowd) And a few people said, "oh yes you did." And Christine laughed. So Lindsey obviously blocked out that horrible moment when Stevie tried to sing both songs. He started trying to sing it on stage in his chair and then just stopped and Christine watched him with a smirk.

LOL yes, you and me!!! :)

And btw LINDSEY ruined that song (not stevie!). I had actually said that on the way there to Ally lol. Then laughed about the fact that he blocked it out... god I wish I could too!!

[jbrownsjr]

Jesus, coming on here is so frustrating anymore. How is it that no matter what the thread is about it almost always ends up going off on some wild tangent with a bunch of you just bashing Stevie?! (and usually bashing her about something totally unrelated to the actual thread topic.... i.e. this thread)
It's no wonder The Ledge has gotten the reputation all over social media that it has. What a shame. :rolleyes:

Girl, you don't have time for this. It's time for you to get to you 100th BuckVie show. :laugh:

[haleyd]

Girl, you don't have time for this. It's time for you to get to you 100th BuckVie show. :laugh:

Hahaha that's tomorrow!! I clearly need a nap right now though! :laugh:

[jbrownsjr]

Hahaha that's tomorrow!! I clearly need a nap right now though! :laugh:

I've run into you at the Las Vegas show and now the Grammy Museum (at 3pm for a 8pm event). . You are one dedicated fan. You can scold us anytime. We actually love the abuse. :wavey:

[Buster]

I would have enjoyed reading more about this Q&A but I can't get past the bull**** comments about Stevie, especially the completely off-topic one re: Tom Petty. The obsessed people are not the Stevie fans, they are the handful of misogynist old crows who can't seem to get through their day without their backslapping posts. Probably have to post before even getting through their first dump of the day.

I'm out of this pathetic message board.

[jbrownsjr]

Well, back on topic before everyone blows a gasket.

Personally, I love a place where people are honest. Even if I don't agree. OMG you don't like McVie or Nicks or Buck?? ... and the walls came tumbling down....

Anyway,

It was a wonderful night. Sat next to my best friend and Haleyd (Haleyd is as obsessed as I am about these people so it's pure fun)

We had a blast talking Mac with our mutual friend Ally. It was fun figuring out the different things we liked about the band. Hanging out with these guys was so endearing and I hope we get to do it again. That was a pure Fleetwood Mac Treat. A plate of Buck w/ a side of sarcastic McVie.

[Buster]

Message for the owner of this **** message board below. Tried emailing but inbox was full.

That's some **** message board you run. Allowing a couple of misogynist men to dominate every discussion on the rumours section with their crass personal attacks on Stevie. She's a legendary vital part of the rumours era band and you sit there while a couple of assholes **** all over her every day no matter what the topic. You should be ashamed of yourself for not understanding the difference between allowing freedom of speech and honoring the band you've built a message board around. No wonder there are only like 10 people who are active on a board for one of the greatest bands of all time. What the **** are you thinking?

[HomerMcvie]

I think Seven Wonders is the board that you're looking for. If anyone said anything negative about Stevie(on that board), they were barred from the board(and no, I was never barred...I was actually asked to be a moderator).

Oh, but wait, it went under several years ago.

You know, not everyone in life is going to agree with you. There are people out there who don't like Stevie, just as there are people who don't like any certain member of the band(John's a republican!!!). So what? Who cares? Varying opinions are what make life interesting.

[Buster]

Please God let me die before I become some toothless old man sitting on a crapper trying to think of clever ways of calling a woman a cow without actually saying it so people don't realize I'm a hideous sexist pig. And please God let me die before I become someone who actually thinks Fleetwood Mac is still an actual band and therefore should spend every waking hour posting on a message board being all butt hurt that Stevie Nicks doesn't want to add some tracks to an album she doesn't give a **** about because she's almost 70 years old and she wants to do whatever she wants.

[HomerMcvie]

I think that maybe that ship has already sailed for you! :xoxo:

[Macfan4life]

;)...
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;)

[jbrownsjr]

So yeah, anyway. We had a really amazing time. And it was so much fun to see these legends in person. :eek:

[elle]

So yeah, anyway. We had a really amazing time. And it was so much fun to see these legends in person. :eek:

so glad you all managed to get together and have this great shared experience with fellow fans - that's what this is all about!!

my love to you, Ally, Haley and couple of my other friends who got to be there, enjoy the conversation, and hang out with you!

[jbrownsjr]

so glad you all managed to get together and have this great shared experience with fellow fans - that's what this is all about!!

my love to you, Ally, Haley and couple of my other friends who got to be there, enjoy the conversation, and hang out with you!

I wish you were there, Elle!! We would have had a blast with you. Hailey and Ally are two amazing fansters to hang with. And they could both probably out drink me. :lol:

[haleyd]

so glad you all managed to get together and have this great shared experience with fellow fans - that's what this is all about!!

my love to you, Ally, Haley and couple of my other friends who got to be there, enjoy the conversation, and hang out with you!

I wish you were there, Elle!! We would have had a blast with you. Hailey and Ally are two amazing fansters to hang with. And they could both probably out drink me. :lol:

I wish you had been there, Elle! We had a great time... in spite of security telling me I had to wait in line outside after I got my ticket :mad: lol! One day we will all have a great time together though! And yes John I'm pretty sure I could outdrink you lol but let's try and find out soon!!


Also, me to Buster :xoxo:! I love you for jumping in with me and b*tching about the unnecessary and randomly misplaced in every. single. post. Stevie hate too! #highfive lol

[jbrownsjr]

I wish you had been there, Elle! We had a great time... in spite of security telling me I had to wait in line outside after I got my ticket :mad: lol! One day we will all have a great time together though! And yes John I'm pretty sure I could outdrink you lol but let's try and find out soon!!


Also, me to Buster :xoxo:! I love you for jumping in with me and b*tching about the unnecessary and randomly misplaced in every. single. post. Stevie hate too! #highfive lol

Exactly, if you're gonna hate on Stevie make sure it's placed properly. :wavey:

[haleyd]

Exactly, if you're gonna hate on Stevie make sure it's placed properly. :wavey:

:laugh: I should have worded that differently lol... because there is NO proper placement for hating on Stevie. EVER.

[HomerMcvie]

:laugh: I should have worded that differently lol... because there is NO proper placement for hating on Stevie. EVER.

Opinions are like....something.

Yours isn't the only valid one, so don't get on a high horse about it.

You can ride high atop your pony, "I know you might fall".

[jbrownsjr]

:laugh: I should have worded that differently lol... because there is NO proper placement for hating on Stevie. EVER.

Gabriel texted me the next day and said, "It's 1pm. I bet Hailey is standing outside the San Jose arena.":laugh:

[haleyd]

Opinions are like....something.

Yours isn't the only valid one, so don't get on a high horse about it.

You can ride high atop your pony, "I know you might fall".

calm down, I wasn't even talking to you.

[haleyd]

Gabriel texted me the next day and said, "It's 1pm. I bet Hailey is standing outside the San Jose arena.":laugh:

:laugh::laugh: I'll have him know I didn't even leave until Saturday morning AND I didn't get to the venue until... actually I don't remember when? I was drunk. I think Wilderado was still on? But maybe not? :shrug:

[HomerMcvie]

calm down, I wasn't even talking to you.

Lucky you.:eek:

[elle]

I wish you had been there, Elle! We had a great time... in spite of security telling me I had to wait in line outside after I got my ticket :mad: lol! One day we will all have a great time together though! And yes John I'm pretty sure I could outdrink you lol but let's try and find out soon!!


Also, me to Buster :xoxo:! I love you for jumping in with me and b*tching about the unnecessary and randomly misplaced in every. single. post. Stevie hate too! #highfive lol

i wish i was too! it will happen, one of these days!!


i don't know, this buster person was not very nice. after his/her first post, subsequent ones went off the rails really fast.

i'm guessing expressing annoyance with celebrities you don't like might be therapeutic, for some people. like jumping around at shows or playing video games is for others, if one needs to get pent up frustrations out so can be calm in real life. and maybe for some, going over the top defending your favorite celebrities is a different way of doing the same thing and that's why buster went off, who knows?

[HomerMcvie]

~A~ person seemed to have little control over their emotions.

[jbrownsjr]

i wish i was too! it will happen, one of these days!!


i don't know, this buster person was not very nice. after his/her first post, subsequent ones went off the rails really fast.

i'm guessing expressing annoyance with celebrities you don't like might be therapeutic, for some people. like jumping around at shows or playing video games is for others, if one needs to get pent up frustrations out so can be calm in real life. and maybe for some, going over the top defending your favorite celebrities is a different way of doing the same thing and that's why buster went off, who knows?

I agree. The thing that is unreal is when someone comes over and doesn't like other posters offering their opinions. Then in turn, they start attacking the board and the other members. It's a bit hypocritical. Not everyone has to like Christine, Stevie, Lindsey, Mick, John, Bob, Peter, Danny, etc.

The thread got crazy when the Tom Petty comment came up. People are entitled to interpret her quote the way they like.

On the other hand, I don't like when people troll to get a dig in where it's not warranted. I've seen it just recently happen in the Stevie forum.

There is always the block option vs. attacking another poster.
I wouldn't mind if Buster stayed, just keep it reasonable.

[haleyd]

i wish i was too! it will happen, one of these days!!


i don't know, this buster person was not very nice. after his/her first post, subsequent ones went off the rails really fast.

i'm guessing expressing annoyance with celebrities you don't like might be therapeutic, for some people. like jumping around at shows or playing video games is for others, if one needs to get pent up frustrations out so can be calm in real life. and maybe for some, going over the top defending your favorite celebrities is a different way of doing the same thing and that's why buster went off, who knows?

I agree. The thing that is unreal is when someone comes over and doesn't like other posters offering their opinions. Then in turn, they start attacking the board and the other members. It's a bit hypocritical. Not everyone has to like Christine, Stevie, Lindsey, Mick, John, Bob, Peter, Danny, etc.

The thread got crazy when the Tom Petty comment came up. People are entitled to interpret her quote the way they like.

On the other hand, I don't like when people troll to get a dig in where it's not warranted. I've seen it just recently happen in the Stevie forum.

There is always the block option vs. attacking another poster.
I wouldn't mind if Buster stayed, just keep it reasonable.

honestly the reason I deleted my old profile I'd had for years and then decided to slowly tip toe back on is because of how everyone constantly bitches about Stevie... and it's generally the same people with the same worn out tired comments. Like we get it, you don't like her. But not everything is her fault. I don't get on here every chance I get and bring up all the abusive sh*t Lindsey has done or what a lunatic he can be (still to this day) and then turn every single post in to what an as**ole he is. Why bother? People love him (myself included, you both know that....) But if some of you actually read more on social media than just TL and RS you would see that TL has a horrible reputation everywhere and most people hate this board thanks to a select few that have turned it into a **** show with their constant bashing and constantly jumping in to nearly every single thread and bashing Stevie. It doesn't even make sense to me tbh lol. You hate her so much but jesus Christ you're obsessed with her and how much you hate her. It's such a conundrum!



annnnnyway, remember when Lindsey said "makes me want to look behind the mirror for drugs!" :]:] haha I love him!!!

[jbrownsjr]

honestly the reason I deleted my old profile I'd had for years and then decided to slowly tip toe back on is because of how everyone constantly bitches about Stevie... and it's generally the same people with the same worn out tired comments. Like we get it, you don't like her. But not everything is her fault. I don't get on here every chance I get and bring up all the abusive sh*t Lindsey has done or what a lunatic he can be (still to this day) and then turn every single post in to what an as**ole he is. Why bother? People love him (myself included, you both know that....) But if some of you actually read more on social media than just TL and RS you would see that TL has a horrible reputation everywhere and most people hate this board thanks to a select few that have turned it into a **** show with their constant bashing and constantly jumping in to nearly every single thread and bashing Stevie. It doesn't even make sense to me tbh lol. You hate her so much but jesus Christ you're obsessed with her and how much you hate her. It's such a conundrum!



annnnnyway, remember when Lindsey said "makes me want to look behind the mirror for drugs!" :]:] haha I love him!!!

Well thanks for going back on topic. You've said your piece/peace.. and now you will have to remember Love is Here To Stay.

Don't like the board.. then post more threads and change it.. It's just as much your board as it is anybody else. I personally would love you here.
You know your s***. And again, I might suggest the block option. If it's only a few people then you should love it here.

Carnival Begin.

[haleyd]

Well thanks for going back on topic. You've said your piece/peace.. and now you will have to remember Love is Here To Stay.

* sigh * Love Is Here To Stay #hearteyesemoji <3 <3 <3

[HomerMcvie]

If Stevie left the band today, and said she was only going to do her solo career from here on out, I'd be both happy for her, and the band.:wavey:

[elle]

Don't like the board.. then post more threads and change it.. It's just as much your board as it is anybody else. I personally would love you here.
You know your s***.

yes, love seeing you here Haley - please stay, you have so much to contribute! :xoxo: :nod::wavey: #LIHTS

what John said - every single one of us can change the tone. we all know better than to take social media word as any kind of truth or gospel. i've seen posts on social media shi**ing on TL and claiming they really don't understand why Elle is still staying :lol:. plus there is social media hate of TL from all sides and colors of FM fans, not just Stevie's. TL used to be a hatefest for Lindsey all. the time. if you look at the old threads, even in Lindsey forum, so maybe some of those peeps on social media just regret that's not still the case :shrug:. many people just cannot take an argument and open discussion and like a group think much better - so for those people this is definitely not the right fan forum.

but healthy and respectful argument and diversity of opinions is a good thing!

not to say that yes - some threads are unnecessarily turned into bashing of one or the other member, and it is annoying.

[jbrownsjr]

yes, love seeing you here Haley - please stay, you have so much to contribute! :xoxo: :nod::wavey: #LIHTS

what John said - every single one of us can change the tone. we all know better than to take social media word as any kind of truth or gospel. i've seen posts on social media shi**ing on TL and claiming they really don't understand why Elle is still staying :lol:. plus there is social media hate of TL from all sides and colors of FM fans, not just Stevie's. TL used to be a hatefest for Lindsey all. the time. if you look at the old threads, even in Lindsey forum, so maybe some of those peeps on social media just regret that's not still the case :shrug:. many people just cannot take an argument and open discussion and like a group think much better - so for those people this is definitely not the right fan forum.

but healthy and respectful argument and diversity of opinions is a good thing!

not to say that yes - some threads are unnecessarily turned into bashing of one or the other member, and it is annoying.

You forgot about the Christine hate at an old place we used to read. Plus, the Christine hate on FB and Twitter. That old bird stealing LB???!!! ;)

[iamnotafraid]

but healthy and respectful argument and diversity of opinions is a good thing!



Are you sure about that?

I think Stevie's biggest mistake was growing old.
It's hard to go from sex symbol to Aunt Mildred.
Not that I don't love Aunt Mildred.

[Angel75]

honestly the reason I deleted my old profile I'd had for years and then decided to slowly tip toe back on is because of how everyone constantly bitches about Stevie... and it's generally the same people with the same worn out tired comments. Like we get it, you don't like her. But not everything is her fault. I don't get on here every chance I get and bring up all the abusive sh*t Lindsey has done or what a lunatic he can be (still to this day) and then turn every single post in to what an as**ole he.

.


annnnnyway, remember when Lindsey said "makes me want to look behind the mirror for drugs!" :]:] haha I love him!!!


This is a hilarious quote.....when did he say this?!


Thanks Haley. I agree, Lindsey as much as I also love him has the worst past to note in terms of domestic abuse whilst Stevie has of course been a drug addict and slept with probably too many married men to count but that was consensual on their part. However she is always framed as the most evil person on the planet. Makes no sense. At least look at the facts people.
It is always deemed here that we must not hold others back from writing their own opinions. Of course not, but why is name calling, insults and trolling of a band members behaviour or personality deemed ok? It is crystal clear of what the few specific and current Ledge members favourite band members are. Their opinions are well and truly documented. But do we have to be reminded every single day? Surely try and play nice

[MikeInNV]

It is always deemed here that we must not hold others back from writing their own opinions. Of course not, but why is name calling, insults and trolling of a band members behaviour or personality deemed ok? It is crystal clear of what the few specific and current Ledge members favourite band members are. Their opinions are well and truly documented. But do we have to be reminded every single day? Surely try and play nice

Well that's just it. It makes no difference to me if some people don't like Stevie. But when the name-calling persists day after day, in multiple posts in multiple threads, that's not hurting Stevie, it's hurting the experience of her fans who come here to share in the Fleetwood Mac experience. And if you call that behavior out, it's just because you are a delicate chiffonhead. But honestly, if someone thought up some nasty insults about CM or LB and posted them daily, don't you think that would eventually try the patience of some of their fans here?

[elle]

and there we go off the topic again!!

Are you sure about that?

yes, very much so. seems to be very rare these days... although millennials might be changing that. i hope!


This is a hilarious quote.....when did he say this?!
read the title of this thread. that's where he said it. Haley was trying to get the thread back on the topic.

At least look at the facts people.

you can't state the allegation (domestic abuse) and call it a fact though - as the previous owner of this board would say looking at this legally (she can correct me). although you or i may believe it's the truth (and i do think it is, and it's ugly), unless it's proven in the court, it's still an allegation - and people like Stevie claim that it's not true. and if you read these boards, most Lindsey fans do not claim that it didn't happen or that he's a saint. far from it. you also cannot try to get rid of one wrongdoing by reverting to another because you are just inviting further argument.

[bwboy]

Well that's just it. It makes no difference to me if some people don't like Stevie. But when the name-calling persists day after day, in multiple posts in multiple threads, that's not hurting Stevie, it's hurting the experience of her fans who come here to share in the Fleetwood Mac experience. And if you call that behavior out, it's just because you are a delicate chiffonhead. But honestly, if someone thought up some nasty insults about CM or LB and posted them daily, don't you think that would eventually try the patience of some their fans here?

Very well said, MikeInNV. Like you said, it's not affecting the band members, but it does affect the fans. This is true whether the nasty comments are directed to Stevie or Lindsey or Christine.

[jbrownsjr]

This is a hilarious quote.....when did he say this?!


Thanks Haley. I agree, Lindsey as much as I also love him has the worst past to note in terms of domestic abuse whilst Stevie has of course been a drug addict and slept with probably too many married men to count but that was consensual on their part. However she is always framed as the most evil person on the planet. Makes no sense. At least look at the facts people.
It is always deemed here that we must not hold others back from writing their own opinions. Of course not, but why is name calling, insults and trolling of a band members behaviour or personality deemed ok? It is crystal clear of what the few specific and current Ledge members favourite band members are. Their opinions are well and truly documented. But do we have to be reminded every single day? Surely try and play nice

He said it at the Q & A.

[Angel75]

QUOTE read the title of this thread. that's where he said it. Haley was trying to get the thread back on the topic. QUOTE



Sorry I missed the joke, I had understood that he had recently said this. My mistake.

Please believe I am not one to start or get involved in any disagreements, I have always agreed with both your and Haley's points. You both make this a more positive place and I certainly respect you both for that. Using the word 'fact' was probably foolish. I just want to highlight ALL the band has their flaws and we should recognise that, rather than constantly bashing them.

[elle]

Please believe I am not one to start or get involved in any disagreements, I have always agreed with both your and Haley's points. You both make this a more positive place and I certainly respect you both for that. Using the word 'fact' was probably foolish. I just want to highlight ALL the band has their flaws and we should recognise that, rather than constantly bashing them.
yeah, didn't mean to jump on you, my apologies too, for making it look like i did. :sorry:

and thanks, i appreciate your nice words. i try! but bashing them can be sooo much fun :p :eek:!

but yeah there are some of the same people that always probably lurk and wait for the opportunity to make the same points every time - when you see the name of the poster you already know exactly what will the post say, and some posted right after you! :lol:

except bwboy, i have nothing to say against majority of his posts i've seen lately! :wavey: :cool:

[Angel75]

yeah, didn't mean to jump on you, my apologies too, for making it look like i did. :sorry:

and thanks, i appreciate your nice words. i try! but bashing them can be sooo much fun :p :eek:!

but yeah there are some of the same people that always probably lurk and wait for the opportunity to make the same points every time - when you see the name of the poster you already know exactly what will the post say, and some posted right after you! :lol:

:

Thank you....Friends?!!!

[RudieCantFail]

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10156044420923392&id=153001228391

Tomorrow on 88.5 FM in the SoCal/LA area they're going to air the pre-Grammy Museum interview at 10:30 am. I don't know if they'll post it online after the broadcast. I guess you could try to listen live online for your local time, like 1:30 east coast and etc.

I have a class during that time, so I don't know what I'm going to do other than hope for it to be posted online or recorded by someone else via a screen recorder on Windows/Microsoft.

Edited: because I saw the Twitter post from Elle on an FB group and don't want to misinform. It's an interview before the Grammy Museum event.

Also, it would be funny and typical if LB said the same spiel about cycles, machines, and 'organic' prior to doing the same thing supposedly at the Grammy Museum event later that day.

EDIT: God, I should have just left Elle to break this. I'm sorry if anyone got up to see nothing at 7:30 b/c my brain was thinking of Hawaiian time.

[RudieCantFail]

Playlist from 10/20 (today) from Nic Harcourt on 88.5. It featured Carnival Begin twice, In My World, and Lay Down for Free.

http://www.885fm.org/on-88-5-fm/playlist/?host=33&date=10/20/2017

[elle]

Playlist from 10/20 (today) from Nic Harcourt on 88.5. It featured Carnival Begin twice, In My World, and Lay Down for Free.

http://www.885fm.org/on-88-5-fm/playlist/?host=33&date=10/20/2017

thanks so much for sharing.

anybody knows whether there's any place where this interview is being streamed or where we can otherwise find it?

[RudieCantFail]

Elle, I messaged the radio station on FB and here's what they said:

Yes! We are currently having some issues with loading archived sessions, but it should be up in the next week or two here:http://www.885fm.org/on-88-5-fm/live-sessions/

[jbrownsjr]

Elle, I messaged the radio station on FB and here's what they said:

Rudie! Thanks so much. I look forward to listening.

[RudieCantFail]

The interview is up, but it doesn't work on Mac for some reason. I tried Chrome and Safari and no dice. It works decently on my iPhone.

I don't know if they've talked about "Carnival Begin" in an interview before, but it was interesting to hear from Christine that it's about her joining the band again. She also said that it was at a faster tempo before and they slowed it down to get a more bluesy tone. Slowing it down apparently reminded her how she sang the blues before. It was also neat to hear a snippet of it in the interview.

Boy, Lindsey sure does go on and on about "In My World." He does his usual spiel about how something used to mean something back then and it takes a new meaning now. He didn't mention at all that it was about Stevie though, and I don't think they mentioned Stevie much if at all in this interview.

He also talked about "Lay Down For Free" and I can't recall at the moment what he said about it. I think it's about the experience of being in a band? I just listened to it, and I don't remember what he said.

Link: http://www.885fm.org/listen/archive/?guestid=559&path=livesessions&file=Lindsey_Buckingham___Christine_McVie_2017_10_20

quick EDIT: I probably just need to restart my computer.

[jbrownsjr]

I have a MAC.. and it works. Really appreciate you posting.