View Full Version : Reasonable ways to change up the tired setlist for 2018-19 tour.
Wdm6789
09-05-2017, 01:04 PM
We saw that Stevie and Mick want to change it up a little bit. I think the Classic West and East setlist was perfect for those shows where they had to cater to a mass audience. But assuming they get more "die hard" fans at a Fleetwood Mac concert, I think they would appreciate a few surprises.
Lindsey: Get rid of Never Going Back Again, I'm So Afraid, Big Love, and maybe even Tusk. I'm pretty bored with these live. Possible replacements: Eyes of the World, Not That Funny, Save Me a Place, and maybe a full band version of Big Love, finally. Go Your Own Way pretty much has to stay as his signature song.
Christine: I cannot imagine ever getting rid of You Make Loving Fun, Say You Love Me, Everywhere, or Little Lies. The only replaceable setlist song of Christine's is Think About Me. I would replace that with either Hold Me, which could also be used to replace one of Lindsey's songs as well, Oh Daddy, which is kind of a dull song, in my opinion, but the "die hard" fans world appreciate it, or Over & Over, which could be used as her Tusk song. I would also love for them to play Why, although extremely unlikely.
Stevie: Like Christine, I find it very difficult to replace any of Stevie's songs. I feel like if they were to omit any of Stevie's signature Dreams, Rhiannon, Sara, Gold Dust Woman, Gypsy, Landslide, people would be upset. Personally, I could do without Landslide and Rhiannon. I would not throw Silver Springs back in either. I would definitely keep Sara and Gypsy, those are my two favorites from Stevie. I would enjoy Stand Back and Storms, Angel would be cool too. I would love Thats Alright, but like Why, extremely unlikely.
Blue Letter would be awesome. Oh Well would be cool, Frozen Love would be cool too.
Macfan4life
09-05-2017, 01:39 PM
Oh gosh no.... NOT THAT FUNNY that's not funny :eek:
No Stand Back please
Stevie is playing Gypsy on her solo tour too. I am over Gold Dust Woman too. I do agree Never Going Back Again and Big Love need to never be performed live again.
How About
Isnt It midnight
Straight Back
Save Me A Place
Love In Store
bwboy
09-05-2017, 01:43 PM
Interesting ideas you have there! The problem is, we all have different opinions- for me, Landslide is a must, but I'm sick of Gold Dust Woman. But FM would be smart to alternate certain songs. For example, do Rhiannon one night, and alternate it with Gold Dust Woman the next. Both are theatrical in nature and require intense vocals, so Stevie could benefit her voice if she alternated them, rather than doing both on the same night. Same thing with Lindsey- he could alternate I'm So Afraid with one of his other songs with a long guitar solo. Christine could alternate Everywhere with Little Lies. Second Hand News sounds similar to Eyes of the World, so Lindsey could alternate those. Doing this would create more room on the tour for more deep cuts.
Imagine Stevie singing Storms one night and Beautiful Child in it's place the next. Lindsey singing Save Me a Place one night and Never Going Back Again the next. If the band just alternated their set list even slightly during the tour, they could sing more deep cuts without sacrificing all the classics.
24karatstevie
09-05-2017, 02:03 PM
I'd kill for Frozen Love, Why, Beautiful Child, and Angel.
secondhandchain
09-05-2017, 03:31 PM
It would be quite easy. Add the following two songs or even 3:
Stevie: Straight Back, Angel (I don't wanna Know)
Lindsey: The Ledge, Save Me a Place (Walk a Thin Line)
Christine: Isn't It Midnight, Hold Me, (Wish you were here)
Remove:
Stevie: Sisters of the Moon, Landslide, (Rhiannon, yes it's tired)
Lindsey: I know I"m not wrong, Big Love, (Second Hand News)
Christine: Over my head, Little Lies, (Say You love me)
sands of time
09-05-2017, 03:42 PM
Save Me a Place is a must. ISA and NGBA have got to go. Tango in the Night can replace ISA. World Turning is beyond tiresome. I wouldn't miss Second Hand News at all.
Say You Will should be represented somehow--Bleed to Love Her better not disappear. Thrown Down or Running Through the Garden would be amazing. Crystal or Long Distance Winner would make me jump for joy. It would be fun to hear Sweet Girl and Temporary One live again.
Twenty years ago it was fresh and exciting, but now Big Love has become a snoozefest. It would be neat if Lindsey did a similar solo arrangement for a completely unexpected song, maybe That's Enough For Me or Blue Letter.
A guy can dream, can't he?
FuzzyPlum
09-05-2017, 04:06 PM
Lindsey: Get rid of Never Going Back Again, I'm So Afraid, Big Love, and maybe even Tusk. I'm pretty bored with these live. Possible replacements: Eyes of the World, Not That Funny, Save Me a Place, and maybe a full band version of Big Love, finally. Go Your Own Way pretty much has to stay as his signature song.
Don't think I could ever tire of Tusk. I think that might be one of the dead certs they'd never drop- its just too much of a crowd pleaser.
Angel would be cool. Following the Tusk rotation on the recent tours it seems as if its Angel's turn next.
I'd happily take a Stevie solo song or three if we could have some Buckingham McVie.
HomerMcvie
09-05-2017, 05:13 PM
I'd happily take a Stevie solo song or three if we could have some Buckingham McVie.
Amen to that. Give Stevie a 15 minute break in the middle, and let them do 4 songs from BV!
bombaysaffires
09-05-2017, 05:20 PM
Must-go's:
Gold Dust Woman
I'm So Afraid
Big Love
Should- go's:
Everywhere
Rhiannon
Silver Springs
Add-in's:
Angel- it hasn't been worn out like the rest
Isn't it Midnight-- great Chris song and big LB solo
I don't want to know- never been done, why not?
Frozen Love-- homage to B&N before FM; was the song that hooked Mick
Oh Well- they need some homage to the band before B&N
maybe Sugar Daddy; I know some don't like it but it's fun
Seven Wonders- replace Gypsy with this
Tango - gives him a big guitar solo
Straight Back- this has such a great Stevie/Chris vocal interplay
I'd take Red Rover acoustic
It Takes Time... with Chris playing keys?
secondhandchain
09-05-2017, 06:10 PM
There are others I would have like to have seen gone, like I'm so afraid, Landslide, Big Love, but I'm trying to be reasonable. Some of these will never go.
iamnotafraid
09-05-2017, 07:23 PM
Amen to that. Give Stevie a 45 minute break in the middle, and let them do 10 songs from BV!
I fixed that for you David.
ryan4136
09-05-2017, 07:56 PM
The older they get the more they will rely on what they are comfortable with.
dreamsunwind
09-05-2017, 08:01 PM
The snail-paced NGBA can go. That unnecessary, super slow way he sings it now ruins it for me.
I'd love to see Eyes of the World live, similar to how it was on the Mirage tour.
I wish they would do Beautiful Child again like they did on the SYW tour.
I would also like to see I Don't Wanna Know performed live at least once in their lifetimes.
bwboy
09-05-2017, 08:42 PM
Why do the same people always turn the threads they post on into something negative? Every single time? How about simply answering the thread without being negative? :eek:
HomerMcvie
09-05-2017, 11:41 PM
I fixed that for you David.
Thank you!!! I'm sure you know that that's what I'd like!
But I think 4 songs would be the least they should do. I'll bet Stevie's people wouldn't allow even that.:mad:
iamnotafraid
09-06-2017, 12:31 AM
Thank you!!! I'm sure you know that that's what I'd like!
You're welcome.
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Stevie Nicks RIP 1973 - 1983
She will be missed.
HomerMcvie
09-06-2017, 12:45 AM
You're welcome.
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Stevie Nicks RIP 1973 - 1983
She will be missed.
It was a great 10 years she had!!!
RIP.
chiliD
09-06-2017, 03:21 AM
It was a great 10 years she had!!!
RIP.
She's just not the girl I used to know, so I had to put her down. (there's a blues song in there somewhere!)
HomerMcvie
09-06-2017, 09:31 AM
She's just not the girl I used to know, so I had to put her down. (there's a blues song in there somewhere!)
Blame it on her wild heart.
And drugs.:laugh::laugh::laugh:
FuzzyPlum
09-06-2017, 12:49 PM
Must-go's:
Gold Dust Woman
I'm So Afraid
Big Love
Should- go's:
Everywhere
Rhiannon
Silver Springs
Add-in's:
Angel- it hasn't been worn out like the rest
Isn't it Midnight-- great Chris song and big LB solo
I don't want to know- never been done, why not?
Frozen Love-- homage to B&N before FM; was the song that hooked Mick
Oh Well- they need some homage to the band before B&N
maybe Sugar Daddy; I know some don't like it but it's fun
Seven Wonders- replace Gypsy with this
Tango - gives him a big guitar solo
Straight Back- this has such a great Stevie/Chris vocal interplay
I'd take Red Rover acoustic
It Takes Time... with Chris playing keys?
Yeah, I could go along with this- though, as others have also said I'd add NGBA to the 'Must go' list. Also not sure about Seven Wonders...wasn't it a bit lame last time they tried it? (cant remember).
bombaysaffires
09-06-2017, 01:00 PM
Yeah, I could go along with this- though, as others have also said I'd add NGBA to the 'Must go' list. Also not sure about Seven Wonders...wasn't it a bit lame last time they tried it? (cant remember).
hmmm...good question, anyone know?
She was still in the throes of her cocaine voice on that one, maybe it doesn't translate well to her more measured voice these days. :shrug:
Buster
09-06-2017, 01:21 PM
So weaving around the Stevie bashing. :cool:
I would love a complete reworking of the setlist but that's never gonna happen.
Stevie: add Angel and get rid of Gypsy or Sara. It would be brilliant to have Angel back if she could pull it off even decently. I'd also love I Don't Wanna Know but really feel like it couldn't be pulled off.
Lindsey: I'd love to never hear Big Love acoustic again. ADD CAROLINE.
Christine: What the hell, add Sugar Daddy.
Add 30 minute intermission for Stevie and her band to do Moonlight, Wild Heart/Bella Donna, Gold and Braid, Stand Back. :blob1:
FuzzyPlum
09-06-2017, 01:21 PM
hmmm...good question, anyone know?
She was still in the throes of her cocaine voice on that one, maybe it doesn't translate well to her more measured voice these days. :shrug:
I recall it was done on the last tour but dropped fairly early on.
HomerMcvie
09-06-2017, 01:22 PM
Must-go's:
Big Love
I HATE Big Love acoustic! GIVE US A FREAKING CHANGE! Do it with the band!!!!
Buster
09-06-2017, 01:22 PM
wasn't it a bit lame last time they tried it? (cant remember).
I thought it was great but maybe just because I was so happy it was in the setlist.
bombaysaffires
09-06-2017, 01:32 PM
Lindsey: I'd love to never hear Big Love acoustic again. ADD CAROLINE.
I was thinking about this one also... the verses are kinda lame but the chorus is great.... but in part because the bass line really funks it up. If he did it solo acoustic, that would be lost.....but I'd still probably be cool with it because it would be NEW and DIFFERENT:eek:
ETA: I can never make out what he says at the very end after the music dies out.... "I don't wanna..." something??? Anyone have ideas?
I HATE Big Love acoustic! GIVE US A FREAKING CHANGE! Do it with the band!!!!
A-MEN to that ...and whilst they're sorting Big Love out..
Sort out....Never going back again.
I can't stand the way it's done these days, it's almost embarrassing.
FuzzyPlum
09-06-2017, 01:43 PM
I was thinking about this one also... the verses are kinda lame but the chorus is great.... but in part because the bass line really funks it up. If he did it solo acoustic, that would be lost.....but I'd still probably be cool with it because it would be NEW and DIFFERENT:eek:
ETA: I can never make out what he says at the very end after the music dies out.... "I don't wanna..." something??? Anyone have ideas?
I always thought it was... 'what have I done, what have I done, what have I done, what have I done aaaahaaaa'
StreetAngel95
09-06-2017, 01:51 PM
Would be happy to leave behind NGBA, Sara, Bleed To Love Her, and Gypsy. I honestly don't think Tusk or I'm So Afraid should go - they are absolute tour de forces live, and they're always played slightly differently. As with Gold Dust Woman.
While my instinct is to ask for SYW songs, because of Chris they're limited to BTLH, but I think if you balance it enough you could do:
- Isn't It Midnight
- Tango in the Night OR Caroline (Lindsey could totally find a way to rework them and transfer to stage)
- Beautiful Child
- Love In Store
- Thrown Down
- Big Love (full band, a la Go Insane 2009 which SLAYED)
- Save Me a Place
- As Long As You Follow (shot in the freaking dark. one can hope)
- Think About Me
- find a way to add Stevie to On With the Show. It's just so fitting.
and I am SO on board with adding Oh Well back. That, along with Storms and Go Insane were my highlights of Unleashed. Lindsey always crushed it!
StevieandChris
09-06-2017, 03:55 PM
Believe this is the same number of songs as 2014...I would love to hear.
The Chain
Say You Love Me
Dreams
I Don't Want to Know
As Long As You Follow
Rhiannon
Peacekeeper
Tusk
Angel
You Make Loving Fun
Fireflies
Bleed to Love Her
Landslide
Never Going Back Again
Over My Head
Straight Back
Think About Me
Gold Dust Woman
I'm So Afraid
Go Your Own Way
World Turning (Encore)
Don't Stop (Encore)
Silver Springs (Encore)
Songbird (Encore)
bombaysaffires
09-06-2017, 04:08 PM
Would be happy to leave behind NGBA, Sara, Bleed To Love Her, and Gypsy. I honestly don't think Tusk or I'm So Afraid should go - they are absolute tour de forces live, and they're always played slightly differently. As with Gold Dust Woman.
While my instinct is to ask for SYW songs, because of Chris they're limited to BTLH, but I think if you balance it enough you could do:
- Isn't It Midnight
- Tango in the Night OR Caroline (Lindsey could totally find a way to rework them and transfer to stage)
- Beautiful Child
- Love In Store
- Thrown Down
- Big Love (full band, a la Go Insane 2009 which SLAYED)
- Save Me a Place
- As Long As You Follow (shot in the freaking dark. one can hope)
- Think About Me
- find a way to add Stevie to On With the Show. It's just so fitting.
and I am SO on board with adding Oh Well back. That, along with Storms and Go Insane were my highlights of Unleashed. Lindsey always crushed it!
definitely if Big Love stays it has to be the band version. He needs to let go of some of his sacred cows. For someone as innovative as he is in the studio, he needs to not be so staid live. No more of the speech that goes with it either.
Save me A Place has always been kinda bland to me...sorry... and it's charm is all about his harmonizing with himself. Not sure how that would go with the band. On a solo tour, with a lot of his pre recorded tracks stuff, I could see it. :shrug:
I gotta say Love In Store is not one my personal faves; it is another song that never really gets off the ground but just kinda drones. However, the vocals are nicely done and you have cool Lindsey and especially Stevie parts to it so it could totally work live.
StreetAngel95
09-06-2017, 06:27 PM
Save me A Place has always been kinda bland to me...sorry... and it's charm is all about his harmonizing with himself. Not sure how that would go with the band. On a solo tour, with a lot of his pre recorded tracks stuff, I could see it. :shrug:
I gotta say Love In Store is not one my personal faves; it is another song that never really gets off the ground but just kinda drones. However, the vocals are nicely done and you have cool Lindsey and especially Stevie parts to it so it could totally work live.
Agreed. We're at the unfortunate place, however, where they just don't have the physical vocal power to plow through song after song so it's a hard balance to find the right selections to excite the audience and actually sound nice.
bwboy
09-06-2017, 08:55 PM
Believe this is the same number of songs as 2014...I would love to hear.
The Chain
Say You Love Me
Dreams
I Don't Want to Know
As Long As You Follow
Rhiannon
Peacekeeper
Tusk
Angel
You Make Loving Fun
Fireflies
Bleed to Love Her
Landslide
Never Going Back Again
Over My Head
Straight Back
Think About Me
Gold Dust Woman
I'm So Afraid
Go Your Own Way
World Turning (Encore)
Don't Stop (Encore)
Silver Springs (Encore)
Songbird (Encore)
If they sang I Don't Want to Know and As Long As You Follow, I would be the first in line to buy a ticket! I know Lindsey didn't play on Follow, but it is on both of the FM Greatest hits album, and I bet the casual listener might think he's on it. I've always thought that song was a thank you to the fans for sticking with them throughout the years, and it's so damn beautiful. Would be awesome to hear Stevie and Lindsey on this.
Buster
09-07-2017, 01:23 PM
Yeah, I could go along with this- though, as others have also said I'd add NGBA to the 'Must go' list. Also not sure about Seven Wonders...wasn't it a bit lame last time they tried it? (cant remember).
I think FM performed Seven Wonders quite well on the latest tour. I wouldn't add it to the 2018 setlist,though.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=jR8Rb96AWpY
bombaysaffires
09-07-2017, 02:09 PM
I think FM performed Seven Wonders quite well on the latest tour. I wouldn't add it to the 2018 setlist,though.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=jR8Rb96AWpY
yeah it's ok. her voice is so nasally it sounds rather different.
And its somehow just.....lackluster in that performance. It does not have the energy that Little Lies has on the BuckVie tour.:shrug:
Wdm6789
09-07-2017, 02:14 PM
For Stevie, I think it would be cool to alternate Rhiannon and Gold Dust Woman, add Storms and/or Stand Back.
Christine, you pretty much can't change any of her songs. I think Over My Head is a better choice than Think About Me though, it's more recognizable. Although if Christine were to introduce Over & Over "Some of you might remember this song, it was the very first song on the Tusk album" there might be a positive reaction.
Lindsey, please at least get rid of Never Going Back Again and Big Love. I want Eyes of The World or Not That Funny. I could also do without Second Hand News. Blue Letter would be awesome, but I would want it to be a band song with all three singing like they did back in the day.
Japhry
09-07-2017, 05:17 PM
Please Please play Running through the Garden!
would also be nice to have Love In Store, Over and Over and "Murrow Turning Over in His Grave" if only for Lindsey's incredible guitar solos in that song.
Rod~A~Little
09-07-2017, 06:10 PM
I think it would be awesome if they added the NEW Buckingham/McVie's Too Far Gone with Stevie's vocals on it and maybe Linsdey could drop the wore out Big Love and replace it with In My World. I was disappointed that they didn't do Carnival Begin in the B'ham/McVie tour. Christine could do Carnival Begin. It's such a "Fleetwood Mac"ish song!
I want NEW, NEW, NEW songs! Then, maybe I'll buy a ticket. They have got to change things up!(Shake the Cage) Otherwise, I'll just stay home and listen to their Greatest Hits and my vinyl Buckingham/McVie album!!!
:nod:
annabellee
09-07-2017, 08:05 PM
MY wishlist is:
Nothing from the BuckMcVie album. There's already too many bathroom breaks in the set.
Let's hope there's new music from the entire band, then they can play some of that.
If not, then alternates from all of the studio albums that they haven't played since Mirage.
No solo songs either.
secondhandchain
09-07-2017, 08:41 PM
Please Please play Running through the Garden!
would also be nice to have Love In Store, Over and Over and "Murrow Turning Over in His Grave" if only for Lindsey's incredible guitar solos in that song.
There is a better chance of being hit by lightning a thousand times in one day then them playing Running through the Garden. The songs is awful anyway.
Hawkeye
09-07-2017, 10:03 PM
I'm gonna do my set in themed clusters like Lindsey and Chris are basically doing on their tour
Intro/get the crowd going with huge songs
1. The Chain
2. You make loving fun
3. Dreams
4. Eyes of the World
5. Everywhere
6. Rhiannon
Set of New Solo/BV songs
7. In my world
8. Too Far Gone
9. 24 Karot Gold
Tusk set
10. Think About Me
11. The Ledge
12. Angel
13. Tusk
Acoustic
14. Big Love
15. Landslide
16. Oh Daddy
Pre 75 set (longest shot here but micks Chris blues song comment gives me hope, maybe this section can be tied into A BN song
17. Why
18. Oh Well
19. Frozen Love
Main set Finale
20. Isn't it Midnight
21. Gold Dust Woman
22. Go Your Own Way
Encore
23. Blue Letter (Micks solo if he insists)
24. Don't Stop
25. Silver Springs
26. Songbird
pattyfan
09-07-2017, 10:24 PM
If it were up to me... :)
(not necessarily in this order)
Second Hand News
Save Me a Place
The Ledge
I Know I'm Not Wrong
Tango in the Night
Goodbye Angel
Blue Letter
Sad Angel
Love in Store
Hold Me
One More Night
Red Sun
Over and Over
You Make Loving Fun
Say You Love Me
Everywhere
Fireflies
That's Alright
Angel
Gold Dust Woman
Straight Back
Landslide
Thrown Down
Silver Springs
The Chain
Farmer's Daughter
:)
Kevin
HomerMcvie
09-07-2017, 11:36 PM
MY wishlist is:
Nothing from the BuckMcVie album. There's already too many bathroom breaks in the set.
Let's hope there's new music from the entire band, then they can play some of that.
If not, then alternates from all of the studio albums that they haven't played since Mirage.
No solo songs either.
Well that's a really realistic wish list you've got going there.
Have you listened to BV? I'm guessing "no"?
Japhry
09-08-2017, 08:13 PM
There is a better chance of being hit by lightning a thousand times in one day then them playing Running through the Garden. The songs is awful anyway.
well, that's subjective, but thanks for your "input"
Wdm6789
09-08-2017, 11:29 PM
Monday Morning instead of Second Hand News.
FuzzyPlum
09-09-2017, 01:28 AM
Please Please play Running through the Garden!
There is a better chance of being hit by lightning a thousand times in one day then them playing Running through the Garden. The songs is awful anyway.
There's more chance of being kicked by a snake than them ever playing that god-awful Running Through the Garden :shocked:
HomerMcvie
09-09-2017, 02:37 AM
There's more chance of being kicked by a snake than them ever playing that god-awful Running Through the Garden :shocked:
god I love this place. Because no one will ever catch a break, here. :lol::lol::lol:
Macfan4life
09-09-2017, 06:57 AM
I think its safe to say we will never ever hear anything live from the albums Behind the Mask, Time, or Say You Will.
The white album and Rumours have been played extensively live. I wish they could dig deeper into Tusk, Tango and Mirage. Love that Chris is doing Wish You Were here on this current tour. Love to hear Straight Back, Isn't It Midnight, Tango In The Night, Angel, etc
HomerMcvie
09-09-2017, 09:20 AM
I think its safe to say we will never ever hear anything live from the albums Behind the Mask, Time, or Say You Will.
The white album and Rumours have been played extensively live. I wish they could dig deeper into Tusk, Tango and Mirage. Love that Chris is doing Wish You Were here on this current tour. Love to hear Straight Back, Isn't It Midnight, Tango In The Night, Angel, etc
You're correct. I don't think they want to stray from the "greatest hits" machine. They're convinced that that's what keeps them selling BIG tickets. Maybe they're right...even if that doesn't say much for "artistic credibility".
An odd song here or there is all they're ever going to give us.
Macfan4life
09-09-2017, 09:30 AM
You're correct. I don't think they want to stray from the "greatest hits" machine. They're convinced that that's what keeps them selling BIG tickets. Maybe they're right...even if that doesn't say much for "artistic credibility".
An odd song here or there is all they're ever going to give us.
Exactly...at this stage in their careers and possibly the last Mac tour, all the standards will be there. But I think each singer will pull out 1 song from the closet. But it will mostly be the same set. If you go back each tour, they do not mix it up that much.
HomerMcvie
09-09-2017, 09:36 AM
Exactly...at this stage in their careers and possibly the last Mac tour, all the standards will be there. But I think each singer will pull out 1 song from the closet. But it will mostly be the same set. If you go back each tour, they do not mix it up that much.
Which of course is very sad for us "deep catalog" fans. But we're probably not 5% of the audience.
Hell, someone above said that BV songs would be "bathroom break" songs.:mad::mad::mad:
Hell, acoustic Big Love has been my pee song for years!!!!!
I think its safe to say we will never ever hear anything live from the albums Behind the Mask, Time, or Say You Will.
The white album and Rumours have been played extensively live. I wish they could dig deeper into Tusk, Tango and Mirage. Love that Chris is doing Wish You Were here on this current tour. Love to hear Straight Back, Isn't It Midnight, Tango In The Night, Angel, etc
Say You Will songs were played on the last 2 FM tours - Say Goodbye in 2013 and Bleed To Love Her in 2015. Lindsey almost always plays at least one SYW song, whether it's a FM tour or LB solo tour (Come and BTLH on his last solo tour).
i agree with more stuff from Tusk, not just the ones they play regularly (like Lindsey plays always the same 2 deep cuts from Tusk - Not That Funny and IKINW and ignores all others).
also love Chris' BuckVie live version of WYWH. never in a million years will i understand fans who keep calling for deep cuts and then list sonmgs heavily played on FM tours but call for Chris to drop WYWH. :rolleyes:
Hell, someone above said that BV songs would be "bathroom break" songs.:mad::mad::mad:
i know. and then those same people wonder why other fans have the same thing to say about SN songs - but saying Rhiannon or Dreams suck live is hate hate hate negativity don't ya know?! :lol:
bwboy
09-09-2017, 01:01 PM
The new songs are usually considered 'bathroom breaks' no matter who is singing them. A Buck/Vie song would be a bathroom break at a FM concert, just like Running Through the Garden was during the Say You Will tour, and would be at the next FM tour.
I'm surprised people are sensitive about or surprised by this. I've seen it happen at just about every concert I've been to by artists past their peak.
Macfan4life
09-09-2017, 05:11 PM
Say You Will songs were played on the last 2 FM tours - Say Goodbye in 2013 and Bleed To Love Her in 2015. Lindsey almost always plays at least one SYW song, whether it's a FM tour or LB solo tour (Come and BTLH on his last solo tour).
i agree with more stuff from Tusk, not just the ones they play regularly (like Lindsey plays always the same 2 deep cuts from Tusk - Not That Funny and IKINW and ignores all others).
also love Chris' BuckVie live version of WYWH. never in a million years will i understand fans who keep calling for deep cuts and then list sonmgs heavily played on FM tours but call for Chris to drop WYWH. :rolleyes:
LOL of course they were playing songs from SYW especially since they were promoting the songs on that album one of those tours ;)
HELLO
I am talking about TODAY with Christine back in the group. She does not know those songs. But more important for a big farewell tour, they will stick to the brand and play a relatively big variety of hits with probably only one or two deep cuts thrown in. The Mac is probably the most ritualistic band when it comes to concert sets. As HomerMcVie stated we (this board) are only 5% of the attendees at these concerts. The mass machine and big money of concert ticket buyers want ALL the hits and no obscure or deep cuts.
jbrownsjr
09-09-2017, 05:47 PM
Say You Will songs were played on the last 2 FM tours - Say Goodbye in 2013 and Bleed To Love Her in 2015. Lindsey almost always plays at least one SYW song, whether it's a FM tour or LB solo tour (Come and BTLH on his last solo tour).
i agree with more stuff from Tusk, not just the ones they play regularly (like Lindsey plays always the same 2 deep cuts from Tusk - Not That Funny and IKINW and ignores all others).
also love Chris' BuckVie live version of WYWH. never in a million years will i understand fans who keep calling for deep cuts and then list sonmgs heavily played on FM tours but call for Chris to drop WYWH. :rolleyes:
WYWH was beautiful!!
LOL of course they were playing songs from SYW especially since they were promoting the songs on that album one of those tours ;)
:laugh: you do know there's 10 years difference between 2003 and 2013, right? :xoxo:
they were definitely NOT promoting SYW album on 2013 greatest hits tour. they did a bit promote the EP though. :wavey:
and they were not promoting SYW on 2015 tour with Chris either, but they were doing BTLH.
The new songs are usually considered 'bathroom breaks' no matter who is singing them.
yeah for the majority of the audience. not for an FM hardcore fan.
FM would be smart to alternate certain songs. [/I]For example, do Rhiannon one night, and alternate it with Gold Dust Woman the next. Both are theatrical in nature and require intense vocals, so Stevie could benefit her voice if she alternated them, rather than doing both on the same night. Same thing with Lindsey- he could alternate I'm So Afraid with one of his other songs with a long guitar solo. Christine could alternate Everywhere with Little Lies. Second Hand News sounds similar to Eyes of the World, so Lindsey could alternate those. Doing this would create more room on the tour for more deep cuts.
Imagine Stevie singing Storms one night and Beautiful Child in it's place the next. Lindsey singing Save Me a Place one night and Never Going Back Again the next. If the band just alternated their set list even slightly during the tour, they could sing more deep cuts without sacrificing all the classics.
i love your ideas by far the best of anything written in this thread. :thumbsup::woohoo:
and you are completely right, just look at how different proposed setlists from different people are in this thread. i look at most of those setlists and i severely dislike all of them. but i love what you are proposing, too bad that like you said, FM will never do it - cos with all their rehearsing, they are too lazy to prepare double the setlist... even though most of those songs they can do in their sleep. :shrug:
bwboy
09-10-2017, 06:28 AM
i love your ideas by far the best of anything written in this thread. :thumbsup::woohoo:
and you are completely right, just look at how different proposed setlists from different people are in this thread. i look at most of those setlists and i severely dislike all of them. but i love what you are proposing, too bad that like you said, FM will never do it - cos with all their rehearsing, they are too lazy to prepare double the setlist... even though most of those songs they can do in their sleep. :shrug:
Thanks! But like you said, even though FM has been lazy with their set list in the past, Stevie mixed up hers with her 24 Karat Gold tour, and Lindsey and Christine shocked us with their set list for the Buck/Vie album, so I actually have hope that the upcoming FM tour will have some real surprises.
bwboy
09-10-2017, 06:57 AM
Looking at their set list objectively, the typical FM concert has about 24 songs. To break it down a bit, FM has 15 well-known hits:
Say You Love Me
Rhiannon
Over My Head
Go Your Own Way
You Make Loving Fun
Don't Stop
Tusk
Sara
Hold Me
Gypsy
Big Love
Seven Wonders
Little Lies
Everywhere
I didn't include Love in Store, Sisters of the Moon, or Family Man because they weren't big hits. Seven Wonders ranked about the same as Love in Store, but had a video that got a lot of airtime on MTV, which added more exposure.
They have at least 7 'standards,' or songs they sing virtually every tour:
The Chain
Songbird
Gold Dust Woman
Silver Springs
Landslide
Never Going Back Again
Second Hand News
Assuming they played all the hits and standards, that leaves two slots for deep cuts. We know they don't play every hit- Hold Me, Big Love, and Seven Wonders have been played the least, so if they left those out, that would open up 3 more slots. 12 hits +7 standards =19 songs, leaving room for 5 deep cuts. Not a lot of flexibility there :distress:
I would have to think Hold Me and Wish You Were Here might be added to the set list, since they were so well-received on the Buck/Vie tour. Angel is a good balance to Stevie's other songs. That would leave 2 songs for Lindsey. I'm sure he would pick 2 songs with long guitar solos, such as I'm So Afraid and/or Not That Funny, or two deep cuts like Tango in the Night and one other. Except for ISA and NTF, these songs would certainly qualify as deep cuts and would be a welcome addition.
My question to you guys is, are 5 deep cuts enough for us hardcore fans to pay big money to see them next year?
FuzzyPlum
09-10-2017, 09:33 AM
Looking at their set list objectively, the typical FM concert has about 24 songs. To break it down a bit, FM has 15 well-known hits:
Say You Love Me
Rhiannon
Over My Head
Go Your Own Way
You Make Loving Fun
Don't Stop
Tusk
Sara
Hold Me
Gypsy
Big Love
Seven Wonders
Little Lies
Everywhere
I didn't include Love in Store, Sisters of the Moon, or Family Man because they weren't big hits. Seven Wonders ranked about the same as Love in Store, but had a video that got a lot of airtime on MTV, which added more exposure.
They have at least 7 'standards,' or songs they sing virtually every tour:
The Chain
Songbird
Gold Dust Woman
Silver Springs
Landslide
Never Going Back Again
Second Hand News
Assuming they played all the hits and standards, that leaves two slots for deep cuts. We know they don't play every hit- Hold Me, Big Love, and Seven Wonders have been played the least, so if they left those out, that would open up 3 more slots. 12 hits +7 standards =19 songs, leaving room for 5 deep cuts. Not a lot of flexibility there :distress:
I would have to think Hold Me and Wish You Were Here might be added to the set list, since they were so well-received on the Buck/Vie tour. Angel is a good balance to Stevie's other songs. That would leave 2 songs for Lindsey. I'm sure he would pick 2 songs with long guitar solos, such as I'm So Afraid and/or Not That Funny, or two deep cuts like Tango in the Night and one other. Except for ISA and NTF, these songs would certainly qualify as deep cuts and would be a welcome addition.
My question to you guys is, are 5 deep cuts enough for us hardcore fans to pay big money to see them next year?
Big Love has been played at every possible opportunity since 1997.Its their 19th most played song ever. As much as I really don't want to hear it again I don't think you can count on it not being included. I just hope- like everyone else we finally get the full band treatment.
annabellee
09-10-2017, 03:13 PM
The new songs are usually considered 'bathroom breaks' no matter who is singing them. A Buck/Vie song would be a bathroom break at a FM concert, just like Running Through the Garden was during the Say You Will tour, and would be at the next FM tour.
I'm surprised people are sensitive about or surprised by this. I've seen it happen at just about every concert I've been to by artists past their peak.
I was the one that posted that about the bathroom break. The PP explains all I was saying about the new Buck/Vie songs (which I cherish). If people come to a FM concert expecting to hear FM, then that's what they want to hear.
Looking at their set list objectively, the typical FM concert has about 24 songs. To break it down a bit, FM has 15 well-known hits:
Say You Love Me
Rhiannon
Over My Head
Go Your Own Way
You Make Loving Fun
Don't Stop
Tusk
Sara
Hold Me
Gypsy
Big Love
Seven Wonders
Little Lies
Everywhere
I didn't include Love in Store, Sisters of the Moon, or Family Man because they weren't big hits. Seven Wonders ranked about the same as Love in Store, but had a video that got a lot of airtime on MTV, which added more exposure.
They have at least 7 'standards,' or songs they sing virtually every tour:
The Chain
Songbird
Gold Dust Woman
Silver Springs
Landslide
Never Going Back Again
Second Hand News
Assuming they played all the hits and standards, that leaves two slots for deep cuts. We know they don't play every hit- Hold Me, Big Love, and Seven Wonders have been played the least, so if they left those out, that would open up 3 more slots. 12 hits +7 standards =19 songs, leaving room for 5 deep cuts. Not a lot of flexibility there :distress:
I would have to think Hold Me and Wish You Were Here might be added to the set list, since they were so well-received on the Buck/Vie tour. Angel is a good balance to Stevie's other songs. That would leave 2 songs for Lindsey. I'm sure he would pick 2 songs with long guitar solos, such as I'm So Afraid and/or Not That Funny, or two deep cuts like Tango in the Night and one other. Except for ISA and NTF, these songs would certainly qualify as deep cuts and would be a welcome addition.
My question to you guys is, are 5 deep cuts enough for us hardcore fans to pay big money to see them next year?
nice thinking!
i'd do some cuts in your "hits" list since they are not using some of them as staples live - so i bolded the ones that seems to be their "must play" - same as in your standards list.
Big Love acoustic while not played (shockingly and refreshingly!) on BuckVie tour has been a staple of live Mac shows so i don't see it going away (or making it a full-band version which would defeat it's purpose, so that's not gonna happen, and unlike most here who are [astonishingly] wishing for a full band version, i think it should be either acoustic version or not in the set).
you are missing Dreams from the hits/staples list.
that 17 staples - 6 Christine , 5 Stevie, 5 Lindsey, and the Chain. since Christine had the most hits that makes sense that she would have more "must include" songs.
so now we have 6-7 spaces - 2 each Stevie and Lindsey, and 1 Christine and if you include World Turning that has been a staple, you are done.
if we are including Hold Me which has not been performed with FM in this century but it's performed on BuckVie tour, and possibly adding World Turning which is a staple, than Christine will have 7 songs. maybe Thuink ABout Me instead of Hold Me, but they've been doing that at the last leg of the FM tour. if Christine decides not to do Everywhere or Songbird, maybe Carnival Begin can be added?
i will leave to Stevie fans to pick 2 of her deeper cuts she can do - my picks would be Angel and Sisters. if i had my way i would also drop Rhiannon and Dreams, and replace these with something more interesting of SN fans' choosing.
for Lindsey, there are many choices, imo and from what i've seen on wishlists thrown around, most FM fans are either unfamiliar or tend to overlook his FM (not to even mention solo!) work. i wish he would do What Makes You Think You're The One and Walk A Thin Line. alternatively the Ledge and Save Me A Place. or Bleed To Love Her and Murrow. Red Rover. Peacekeeper together with Christine would be nice. or Steal Your Heart Away might be interesting (although i didn't like Soundstage version). so basically real deep cuts that were performed maybe on a single FM tour. no bs like Blue Letter which used to be performed all the time or IKINW and NTF that was performed as a "seep cut" at many FM tours. or if Christine adds Carnival Begins maybe Lindsey can add On With the Show?
btw Not That Funny at 2013 was 2-3 minutes short and punky - nothing like 10 minute versions from Mirage era. it was pretty incredible, but it has been drudged out at many tours now and it's time for another Tusk LB deep cut.
I was the one that posted that about the bathroom break. The PP explains all I was saying about the new Buck/Vie songs (which I cherish). If people come to a FM concert expecting to hear FM, then that's what they want to hear.
isn't that somewhat artificial line in the sand though? the Eagles play Joe Walsh solo songs. i'm assuming if Sting tours with the Police, that they play some of his solo songs too. when solo songs from band members are popular casual fans don't tend to distinguish band from solo that much. and majority of FM arena audience will be casual concert goers, as you and others have been saying. they won't care, as long as it's something familiar or rocking. BuckVie songs may not be that familiar but many of them sound familiar since they are so reminiscent of FM hits of the past. if they played Too Far Gone, probably more casual audience members would enjoy it than if they play World Turning which is FM staple.
Except for ISA and NTF, these songs would certainly qualify as deep cuts and would be a welcome addition.
My question to you guys is, are 5 deep cuts enough for us hardcore fans to pay big money to see them next year?
argh forgot ISA. so yeah then just one deep cut for Lindsey, since he doesn't want to drop that awful slow NGBA :distress:, and audiences seems to have good reaction to it.
so i guess either What Makes You Think or Walk a Thin Line would be my choice.
my first choice? Lindsey solo tour at the beginning of next year! :nod::]:thumbsup: and all those deeper cuts i meantione somewhere above to be included, plus 6 new songs from his Jan 2018 upcoming album. :cool::thumbsup:
it's a great question about whether basically a couple of deep cuts would be worth shelling tons of money to see FM tour in 2018/19. i would see a single show, when they come to my area. but i would not follow their tour like i've been following the last 2, or LB solo or BuckVie.
if none of what i would consider deep cuts are there, i would skip the tour all together, like i skipped the Classic show in which i had no interest whatsoever. :shrug:
FuzzyPlum
09-10-2017, 03:36 PM
If they opened with The Chain and then went into something like On With The Show it'd be too early for a bathroom break. As Elle says, it sounds familiar so casual fans would enjoy it as much (if not more than) a deep cut FM song.
In fact, damn... On With The Show would be such a great song to open with, though I'm sure Stevie would never allow it.
HomerMcvie
09-10-2017, 03:54 PM
In fact, damn... On With The Show would be such a great song to open with, though I'm sure Stevie would never allow it.
:mad::mad::mad:
Oh Stevie's ass!!!
I wonder if she has any regrets over not joining them on BV?
bwboy
09-10-2017, 06:21 PM
elle, I can't believe I left off Dreams- although I'm sick of it, that would definitely be a staple of the set, unfortunately. You're right, Lindsey has several songs that could qualify as deep cuts that would be awesome to hear live, which was why I didn't really delve into which ones he could add to the set list. Steve's FM catalog is easier because she has less songs than Lindsey or Christine.
That's why I really, REALLY wish the band would consider alternating even just a handful of songs. Like I said before, all of them have some songs that are a little similar to each other, so Stevie singing Gold Dust Woman one night and Rhiannon the next would really open the set list up for more deep cuts. The acoustic versions of Big Love and Never Going Back Again could be alternated, leaving room for a deep cut by Lindsey.
bwboy
09-10-2017, 06:51 PM
Say You Love Me OR Think About Me
Rhiannon OR Gold Dust Woman
Over My Head OR Everywhere
Go Your Own Way
Dreams
You Make Loving Fun
Don't Stop
Tusk
Sara
Hold Me
Gypsy OR Angel
Big Love OR Never Going Back Again
Seven Wonders OR a Stevie deep cut
Little Lies
The Chain
Songbird
Second Hand News OR I know I'm Not Wrong
Silver Springs
I'm So Afraid OR a Lindsey deep cut
Landslide
Storms OR Beautiful Child
These songs haven't been performed live before, as far as I know:
Crystal
Warm Ways
I Don't Want to Know
Never Forget
You'll Never Make Me Cry
Honey Hi
I am not sure which songs Lindsey has sang live from Tusk, but I know he performed several at least once, so I didn't even try to list them.
Straight Back
Only Over You
Empire State
Oh Diane
That's Alright
Can't Go Back
Book of Love
Tango in the Night
Caroline
When I See You Again
Welcome to the Room Sara
Mystified
You and I part II
Family Man
Fireflies
One More Night
Obviously, I didn't include songs from Behind the Mask, Say You Will, Time, the EP, or Buck/Vie.
Wdm6789
09-11-2017, 05:52 AM
(These are in no particular order)
Lindsey:
Monday Morning
Eyes of The World
Tusk
Not That Funny
Save Me a Place
Go Your Own Way
Oh Well
Stevie:
Dreams
Gold Dust Woman
Rhiannon or Landslide
Sara
Storms or Angel
Gypsy
Stand Back
Christine:
You Make Loving Fun
Say You Love Me
Everywhere
Little Lies
Over & Over
Hold Me
Songbird
Band songs:
The Chain
Don't Stop
Blue Letter (as an encore)
StevieandChris
09-12-2017, 10:23 AM
I really hope they never, ever do Not That Funny again. I will happily listen to the slow Big Love twice if they leave Not That Funny out.
bwboy
09-12-2017, 04:13 PM
I really hope they never, ever do Not That Funny again. I will happily listen to the slow Big Love twice if they leave Not That Funny out.
I agree completely... a really polarizing song! Lindsey's performed it enough that it I'd rather hear ANY other song from Tusk.
I really hope they never, ever do Not That Funny again. I will happily listen to the slow Big Love twice if they leave Not That Funny out.
I agree completely... a really polarizing song! Lindsey's performed it enough that it I'd rather hear ANY other song from Tusk.
while i agree that he needs to pull out his other Tusk songs instead of NTF that he played very diverse versions on enough tours, from both your comments i have to assume that neither one of you went to see any shows at 2013 Fleetwood Mac tour?
bwboy
09-12-2017, 08:18 PM
while i agree that he needs to pull out his other Tusk songs instead of NTF that he played very diverse versions on enough tours, from both your comments i have to assume that neither one of you went to see any shows at 2013 Fleetwood Mac tour?
I didn't see that tour, but considering how much I hate the song, I can't imagine I would like it live no matter how long or short or diverse it was. The recorded version is one of the few FM songs I hate and skip whenever I listen to Tusk. But I hate Gold Dust Woman, too, and a lot of folks like that one.
Wdm6789
09-12-2017, 08:50 PM
I didn't see that tour, but considering how much I hate the song, I can't imagine I would like it live no matter how long or short or diverse it was. The recorded version is one of the few FM songs I hate and skip whenever I listen to Tusk. But I hate Gold Dust Woman, too, and a lot of folks like that one.
https://youtu.be/1Fi3NGwnE3c
https://youtu.be/1Fi3NGwnE3c
that and other Tusk tour versions are punkier than Mirage , but not as tight as 2013 two-minute version -
<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/eLGxCzZI9Rg" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/mqXBskBFJLA" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
also for good measure, Tusk tour rehearsals :D
<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/Z0fQw8yDBfQ" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
Wdm6789
09-13-2017, 03:59 AM
I think it's just the way the video is edited, but I love how prominent the piano is in the video that I posted from 1980. I think it's actually the same one from Tusk Deluxe, but you can't hear the piano as much on that one.
jbrownsjr
09-13-2017, 07:38 AM
If they play NTF, I want the long version.
Macfan4life
09-13-2017, 09:19 AM
I hated Not That Funny on the Dance tour. I was like...please can we stop replaying the same Mac setlists over and over. For God's sake they did not even play little lies on the Dance. I was like... give it up Lindsey...what is your fascination with this song.
The only reason I would love to see it if Christine played the upright piano again. I love the Mirage video with her singing and playing along. That ain't going to happen so please don't play it. I will shoot myself if he plays Big Love one more time.
HomerMcvie
09-13-2017, 10:08 AM
I hated Not That Funny on the Dance tour. I was like...please can we stop replaying the same Mac setlists over and over. For God's sake they did not even play little lies on the Dance. I was like... give it up Lindsey...what is your fascination with this song.
The only reason I would love to see it if Christine played the upright piano again. I love the Mirage video with her singing and playing along. That ain't going to happen so please don't play it. I will shoot myself if he plays Big Love one more time.
Growing up on the Mirage video, the ONE concession I had to make to all my friends, making them watch it daily was that WE ALWAYS SKIP NTF! All that screaming.... It's f*cking stupid! I too have never understood his undying love for it. Give it up, Lindsey! It's the worst song on Tusk!
If he plays Big Love acoustic again, feel free to shoot me along with you!
StevieandChris
09-14-2017, 11:06 PM
while i agree that he needs to pull out his other Tusk songs instead of NTF that he played very diverse versions on enough tours, from both your comments i have to assume that neither one of you went to see any shows at 2013 Fleetwood Mac tour?
I saw them in 2013 at MSG. I have never liked NTF --- live or on the actual album. Probably my least favorite Lindsey.
iamnotafraid
09-15-2017, 01:09 AM
I have never liked NTF --- live or on the actual album.
I must be in the minority here, but I think
Not That Funny is better than most any
song he's done since Out Of The Cradle.
I double dog dare them to open the new tour
with that song. It's more likely that Yukon and
I find that peppermint mine we've been searching
for since 1964 than for that to happen.
Macfan4life
09-15-2017, 07:17 AM
I must be in the minority here, but I think
Not That Funny is better than most any
song he's done since Out Of The Cradle.
I double dog dare them to open the new tour
with that song. It's more likely that Yukon and
I find that peppermint mine we've been searching
for since 1964 than for that to happen.
I tend to notice that you are always in the minority here :eek:
I think you like to troll everyone with your OUTRAGEOUS opinions ;)
(Just teasing)
;)
FuzzyPlum
09-15-2017, 12:52 PM
I must be in the minority here, but I think
Not That Funny is better than most any
song he's done since Out Of The Cradle
I think you are chatting breeze.
I double dog dare them to open the new tour
with that song. It's more likely that Yukon and
I find that peppermint mine we've been searching
for since 1964 than for that to happen.
I have no idea what you just said here.
jbrownsjr
09-15-2017, 12:57 PM
I must be in the minority here, but I think
Not That Funny is better than most any
song he's done since Out Of The Cradle.
I double dog dare them to open the new tour
with that song. It's more likely that Yukon and
I find that peppermint mine we've been searching
for since 1964 than for that to happen.
Rusty says they play BuckVie, SYW, and B/N tunes.
iamnotafraid
09-16-2017, 02:25 AM
Macfan4life,
I prefer to be called a contrarian over the "t" word.
At least we can agree to agree that I'm always in the
minority. But I'm almost always right.
FuzzyPlum,
Chatting Breeze - I had to look that up.
Don't go pretending you don't know about Yukon
and my adventures. Though you're probably more
familiar with the silver and gold stories. When we
get closer to Christmas I'll reveal more.
jbrownsjr,
If Rusty says it, I believe it.
jbrownsjr
09-16-2017, 12:58 PM
Macfan4life,
I prefer to be called a contrarian over the "t" word.
At least we can agree to agree that I'm always in the
minority. But I'm almost always right.
FuzzyPlum,
Chatting Breeze - I had to look that up.
Don't go pretending you don't know about Yukon
and my adventures. Though you're probably more
familiar with the silver and gold stories. When we
get closer to Christmas I'll reveal more.
jbrownsjr,
If Rusty says it, I believe it.
Ask Rusty why BuckVie isn't going to UK. Or, if they are still considering it.
BlueLantern
09-16-2017, 03:05 PM
I'd like for them to have 8 to 10 extra songs down pat, and mix up the set list just a little bit each night. Each crowd gets to walk away knowing they saw a unique, one-time set. I love seeing bands (e.g. Wilco) that do this. But I respect that FMac are getting older and older, and it is a blessing they're all healthy enough to tour at all (knock wood that'd still be the case next year)
I'd like to see more songs that feature a combo of Lindsey/Christine/Stevie, and fewer that are like a 4 minute "solo act" (e.g., really don't need to see Stand Back again on a Fleetwood Mac set list... ditto for Acoustic Big Love). Choices here could be things like Honey Hi (from Tusk), Crystal, World Turning, and their gorgeous cover of Farmer's Daughter (Beach Boys)...
Macfan4life
09-16-2017, 03:21 PM
I'd like for them to have 8 to 10 extra songs down pat, and mix up the set list just a little bit each night. Each crowd gets to walk away knowing they saw a unique, one-time set. I love seeing bands (e.g. Wilco) that do this. But I respect that FMac are getting older and older, and it is a blessing they're all healthy enough to tour at all (knock wood that'd still be the case next year)
I'd like to see more songs that feature a combo of Lindsey/Christine/Stevie, and fewer that are like a 4 minute "solo act" (e.g., really don't need to see Stand Back again on a Fleetwood Mac set list... ditto for Acoustic Big Love). Choices here could be things like Honey Hi (from Tusk), Crystal, World Turning, and their gorgeous cover of Farmer's Daughter (Beach Boys)...
Hello (waving over here)
How about Love In Store. Its a great 3 piece sing along
annabellee
09-16-2017, 06:03 PM
Hello (waving over here)
How about Love In Store. Its a great 3 piece sing along
I would very much like Love In Store. And Honey Hi - full on Harmony. Farmer's Daughter. Fireflies. Yes please!
iamnotafraid
09-17-2017, 01:26 AM
Ask Rusty why BuckVie isn't going to UK. Or, if they are still considering it.
Rusty only knows why Fleetwood Mac won't
tour Germany.
HomerMcvie
09-17-2017, 01:36 AM
Rusty only knows why Fleetwood Mac won't
tour Germany.
I'm sure that for them to leave the contiguous 48 here is VERY costly. They're probably not making a ton on this tour, so I can see why they wouldn't mess with leaving here. No offense! But it ain't about you, it's about them being comfortable at their age...with it being enjoyable for them.
iamnotafraid
09-17-2017, 02:01 AM
I'm sure that for them to leave the contiguous 48 here is VERY costly. They're probably not making a ton on this tour, so I can see why they wouldn't mess with leaving here. No offense! But it ain't about you, it's about them being comfortable at their age...with it being enjoyable for them.
From my understanding, and I hesitate to mention it.
Rusty is referring to Stevie's ill feelings towards the
German people. Which is why Fleetwood Mac won't
tour there.
You're probably right about Buckingham McVie.
Rusty is not me in the third person. If anyone was
wondering.
FuzzyPlum
09-17-2017, 02:21 AM
From my understanding, and I hesitate to mention it.
Rusty is referring to Stevie's ill feelings towards the
German people. Which is why Fleetwood Mac won't
tour there.
You're probably right about Buckingham McVie.
Rusty is not me in the third person. If anyone was
wondering.
http://cdn.playbuzz.com/cdn/6c3d4aa6-2d09-4f03-8146-274c00467257/2068d651-3796-469c-8c27-9750d2a3ddf9.jpg
It can be hard letting go, I'm sure.
secondhandchain
09-17-2017, 02:27 AM
I must be in the minority here, but I think
Not That Funny is better than most any
song he's done since Out Of The Cradle.
I double dog dare them to open the new tour
with that song. It's more likely that Yukon and
I find that peppermint mine we've been searching
for since 1964 than for that to happen.
You are not the only one. I LOVED that song when tusk first came out. I remember thinking it should have been a single, and then reading a review where the song was a "can't miss" as a single. Don't really like the live version though.
HomerMcvie
09-17-2017, 02:35 AM
Rusty is not me in the third person. If anyone was
wondering.
I wasn't wondering, because I am Rusty!!!!!!
bwboy
09-17-2017, 08:08 AM
Fun video from the Say You Will tour in Germany:
https:// m.youtube.com/watch?v=nWn63hZXaul
Stevie and Lindsey seem quite happy.
Netter75
09-17-2017, 08:29 PM
I've thought about ways to reasonably change the setlist and have come up with a couple options that I like...
But screw it! Here's the most unreasonable setlist I could think of that I would love to see:
1. Tango in the Night (This would be a great opener, maybe with added vocal parts for both Christine and Stevie)
2. Fireflies
3. Isn't It Midnight (as arranged for the Tango tour)
4. Running Through the Garden
5. Monday Morning
6. Brown Eyes (as arranged for the Tango tour)
7. Angel (as played on Stevie's solo tours but with more Lindsey vocal)
8. Don't Let Me Down Again
9. Nights in Estoril (or Heart of Stone... I can't decide)
10. Thrown Down
Acoustic Section
11. Honey Hi (not sure how she'll pull it off but I believe in her)
12. Beautiful Child
13. Crystal
14. Love in Store
15. I Don't Want to Know
16. Without a Leg to Stand On
17. Carnival Begin
18. Sisters of the Moon
19. On With the Show
20. All Over Again (or Never Forget)
Encore
21. I Know I'm Not Wrong
22. Why
23. Without You
McLamb
09-18-2017, 02:15 PM
This is wishful thinking, and surely an unreasonable way to "change up the tired setlist for the 2018-19 tour", but here goes:
Monday Morning
Say You Will
Say You Love Me
Can't Go Back
Spare Me A Little Of Your Love
Fireflies
Caroline
Behind The Mask
What Makes You Think You're The One
That's Alright
Everywhere
Beautiful Child
Second Hand News
Remember Me
Angel
Heroes Are Hard To Find
Affairs Of The Heart
Big Love
Silver Springs
Over & Over
Go Your Own Way
ENCORE
Tango In The Night
I Don't Want To Know
Why
jbrownsjr
09-18-2017, 03:47 PM
This is wishful thinking, and surely an unreasonable way to "change up the tired setlist for the 2018-19 tour", but here goes:
Monday Morning
Say You Will
Say You Love Me
Can't Go Back
Spare Me A Little Of Your Love
Fireflies
Caroline
Behind The Mask
What Makes You Think You're The One
That's Alright
Everywhere
Beautiful Child
Second Hand News
Remember Me
Angel
Heroes Are Hard To Find
Affairs Of The Heart
Big Love
Silver Springs
Over & Over
Go Your Own Way
ENCORE
Tango In The Night
I Don't Want To Know
Why
I love this!!
Macfan4life
09-18-2017, 05:02 PM
Some of you guys are higher than Red Rocks :eek:
The thread is "reasonable" ways to change the set, not your dream that will never happen ;)
Its nice to dream but some of these sets are not reasonable when it comes to the Mac. We will get almost the exact same setlist as On With The Show except a 4 song swing. 4 dropped and 4 added.
Dream on silly dreamers :)
HomerMcvie
09-18-2017, 10:52 PM
Some of you guys are higher than Red Rocks :eek:
The thread is "reasonable" ways to change the set, not your dream that will never happen ;)
Its nice to dream but some of these sets are not reasonable when it comes to the Mac. We will get almost the exact same setlist as On With The Show except a 4 song swing. 4 dropped and 4 added.
Dream on silly dreamers :)
I LIKE you. Like, really really LIKE you!!!!
Because you're not delusional. Like some. Or several. Or MANY.
Seriously. Thank you for being real.:xoxo:
KenshiMaster16
09-19-2017, 04:28 AM
Here's a reasonable setlist change;
The Chain
You Make Loving Fun
Dreams
Eyes Of The World
Rhiannon
Everywhere
What Makes You Think You're The One
Tusk
Angel
Say You Love Me
Sara
Big Love
Landslide
Save Me A Place
Think About Me
Gypsy
Little Lies
Gold Dust Woman
Tango In The Night
Go Your Own Way
World Turning
Don't Stop
Silver Springs
Songbird
jbrownsjr
09-19-2017, 11:54 AM
Fun video from the Say You Will tour in Germany:
https:// m.youtube.com/watch?v=nWn63hZXaul
Stevie and Lindsey seem quite happy.
That's because the meddling Christine wasn't there breaking up their relationship!! :laugh::laugh:
bwboy
09-19-2017, 12:59 PM
That's because the meddling Christine wasn't there breaking up their relationship!! :laugh::laugh:
I know! That darn English busy-body, always nosing in where she doesn't belong! :laugh:
iamnotafraid
09-20-2017, 01:33 AM
You are not the only one. I LOVED that song when tusk first came out. I remember thinking it should have been a single, and then reading a review where the song was a "can't miss" as a single. Don't really like the live version though.
Finally someone with great taste in music!
What I do like about Not That Funny is that it's
before the Mac decided to add a tablespoon's worth
of sugar to nearly each and every song on the albums
that came after Tusk.
This will all be laid out in my upcoming book (available for
pre-order on Amazon) Lindsey - The Gelded Stallion.
____________________________________________
Rusty...
So many replies, so little time.
FuzzyPlum
09-20-2017, 01:26 PM
Just a few tweaks...most have appeared in the set list somewhere over the past 20 years but just a couple of new additions.
The Chain
You Make Loving Fun
Monday Morning
Second Hand News
Hold Me
Everywhere
Bleed to Love Her
Tusk
I Know I’m Not Wrong
Say You Love Me
Big Love
Never Going Back Again
Over My Head
Think About Me
Go Insane
Little Lies
Isn’t It Midnight
I’m So Afraid
Go Your Own Way
Encore
World Turning
Don’t Stop
Tango in The Night
Encore 2
Songbird
jbrownsjr
09-20-2017, 01:35 PM
Isn't It Midnight
I'm So Afraid
and
Tango in the Night
Yes!! I love it.
Macfan4life
09-20-2017, 01:46 PM
How about...
The Chain
Dreams
Never Going Back Again
You make loving fun
Big Love (acoustic)
Landslide (acoustic)
Everywhere
Gold Dust Woman
I'm so afraid
Gypsy (with story intro)
World Turning
Go your own way
Don't Stop
Songbird
Someone has to have a sense of humor around here
:)
jbrownsjr
09-20-2017, 03:04 PM
I know! That darn English busy-body, always nosing in where she doesn't belong! :laugh:
We laugh because that's ridiculous. But, there are shippers that really feel that way. Twitter and FB are places that truly defeat any animosity on this site. :lol:
We are small time in the tension dept.
jbrownsjr
09-20-2017, 03:07 PM
How about...
The Chain
Dreams
Never Going Back Again
You make loving fun
Big Love (acoustic)
Landslide (acoustic)
Everywhere
Gold Dust Woman
I'm so afraid
Gypsy (with story intro)
World Turning
Go your own way
Don't Stop
Songbird
Someone has to have a sense of humor around here
:)
Wow, THAT WOULD BE AMAZING. They never play these tunes anymore.
annabellee
09-20-2017, 06:10 PM
Wow, THAT WOULD BE AMAZING. They never play these tunes anymore.
I don't think they'll stray too far from the formula, as much as us fans wish they would. They have to fill seats. I'm content with seeing them one more time before I can't.
Dragon
10-03-2017, 02:26 PM
One way to change the set list is to include new songs.
I would not mind seeing "Save Me" from Behind the Mask performed.
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