Need setlist tweaks for 2nd leg!!

[elle]

Just sayin'.

When Lindsey first started doing lots of solo tours - you know, continuing to grow as an artist, on his own terms, etc etc - he was much more fast and loose with his setlists adding stuff randomly and changing stuff up on his Under The Skin tour. Yet now setlists seem set in stone! What happened? Getting old and too set up in one way??

I really really think they need to change up a few songs for the next leg! Be an artist and take risks guys!! :p

[Macfan4life]

A very welcome thread. I was just thinking about this. The Mac are very ritualistic about their sets and I would be surprised to see any changes. But like you I would welcome a few changes. Christine is not a fan of her solo work. She never wanted to cut a solo album but in any event, her 1984 album is very good and holds up especially coming from the mid 80's. It also had 2 hits. I would love to see any Christine's solo work included in the set. I would not even care what song it was. Give me Got a hold on me, the smile I live for or Friend, or even Love will show us how. I would also like to see another Lindsey solo song. I would drop Little Lies but I believe there is reason this is in the set. It was the Mac's last big top ten hit. I would even drop You Make Loving fun for any other song. We hear it every Mac tour. I would also drop Never Going Back Again.

[dontlookdown]

Yes on losing Little Lies.
It doesn't work well with this band. Sounds awkward and clunky.

Add Brown Eyes and World Turning.
Lose Wish You Were Here.

You Make Loving Fun was really great in LA. I think they should keep it in.

[jenniferuk]

I'd welcome a few changes and a dusting off of some of the treasures. However, they're so stuck in their ways that I'm not optimistic. I know they will never, but I'm one for Spare Me a Little, WATL or such.

I don't know if it's age, stubbornness (gotta play the hits) or the fact that they feel they have to include those awful backing tracks, but I wish they'd realise how talented they are and mix it up. Their enthusiasm is at a peak and I'd love some musical spontaneity. Or, are they so insecure / nervous that change isn't possible?

At least we've got Hold Me and WYWH, both of which I enjoyed, and I'm thrilled they finally got over the 'Oh Me doesn't work' mindset. I'd enjoy World Turning but am happy with TFG.

[lbfan]

I would prefer Carnival Begin in lieu of I'm So Afraid. I thought a "mash up" of the two songs would be great, but LB would never violate the purity of single songs. I would like to see/hear Save Me a Place and Isn't it Midnight. While Game of Pretend has grown on me, it's a pretty weak closer (doesn't have the kind of iconic status as Songbird - but I prefer a more upbeat closer for the encore).

[bwboy]

Yes on losing Little Lies.
It doesn't work well with this band. Sounds awkward and clunky.

Add Brown Eyes and World Turning.
Lose Wish You Were Here.

You Make Loving Fun was really great in LA. I think they should keep it in.

I love Brown Eyes! But many people have pointed out how much alike Too Far Gone sounds like World Turning.

I also think Christine's presence is why they don't adjust their set.

[nicepace]

Drop "Shut Us Down." It's a mis-step to include a LB deep cut without something equivalent from Christine. I'd love to have "Spare Me a Little" or "Love Will Show Us How" in that slot.

Add both "Carnival Begin" and "On with the Show." They are two of the best songs on the BuckVie album and both relate to the personal histories that led to the BuckVie project. They could drop "Feel About You" and maybe "Lay Down For Free."

Keep "Game of Pretend" as the closer. It is such a beautiful song, and it makes such a strong statement that this is NOT Fleetwood Mac. However, I'd like to see Chris stop apologizing for playing it instead of "Songbird."

I liked "Little Lies" when I heard it in Boston (I disagree with fans who say it doesn't work with this configuration), but it's been played at so many FM concerts, it would be great to replace it with "Isn't It Midnight."

[snroxman]

My votes -
1. Keep "Little Lies". I think its inclusion is also a statement - an important one. It works.
2. Add the acoustic version of "Friend". I think it would work very well with them alone.
3. Drop "I'm So Afraid". It's overdone. Huge Bonus if he would also drop "Tusk". There are better choices.
4. Add a Christine song earlier in the show. Again, there are so many choices between Fleetwood Mac and solo career. "So Excited", "Got a Hold On Me", etc.
5. Yes to the suggestion for "Isn't It Midnight".

[Wdm6789]

Christine 1984 solo song would be cool. Only Over You would be cool. They should drop Little Lies for Isn't It Midnight, especially since Lindsey does backup vocals on that song. Everywhere is perfect for an encore on this tour.

[Macfan4life]

I see Lindsey controlling this set. He is being his unconventional self. Its against the grain to open with an acoustic set. Most bands open with a rocker or a hit song. Its very unconventional to open with 3 acoustic songs. I am not complaining though. He just feels the small theater is the perfect opportunity to do so.
I just think this is such a once in a lifetime tour that I want to hear some of their solo songs because they will never be heard live ever again. Isn't it midnight would be DA BOMB!

[bombaysaffires]

agree with adding another Christine song to the opening and dropping SUD.

I don't mind Little Lies.

But I would LOVE to hear Isn't It Midnight and he could get another screaming solo out of it.

I don't think her voice could handle those high notes on Only Over You......

[jmn3]

I would definitely tweak the set a bit if it were up to me (and it's clearly not lol). I am not a fan of the acoustic set to open, in particular with three songs from Lindsey and only one from Chris. If he's wanting to make a statement, I'd rather they open with a four-spot from the new album which is a strong middle finger to the norm of the classic rock circuit setlist. Sleeping Around the Corner/Feel About You/In My World/Too Far Gone would be in my 1-4 spots. Then do two acoustic songs (I don't even like Trouble, but he could keep that and then have Chris do the acoustic version of Friend which is a fantastic idea!). I would loosely follow the rest of the set as it is but maybe swap Little Lies for Isn't it Midnight or Tusk for something else. And anywhere that she could bring in Spare Me a Little would be incredible!

My other change would be the encore. I absolutely adore On With the Show and Carnival Begin and can totally see them being the first two songs of the encore. I would swap out Everywhere and close the show with Don't Stop and end on a high note.

[HomerMcvie]

I don't think her voice could handle those high notes on Only Over You......

I too get the feeling that her high note days are gone. :(

I've always thought(for the last 15 years or so) that Stevie was just playing it safe, with not trying for the high notes... I now think that either Christine is afraid she won't get there if she tries, or just can't get there now.

Or maybe they're both just playing it safe?

[SteveMacD]

I'm actually not a big fan of SUD, WYWH, or NGBA with this particular project. Those are better left to solo/Mac projects. Playing most of the new album is enough of a statement.

I'd drop the opening act, expand the set to 23 songs which would include the full album, most of the big hits, and a couple of standards, and I'd do the full band version of Trouble.

On With The Show
Too Far Gone
Trouble
Everywhere
I'm So Afraid
Red Sun
In My World
Feel About You
Love Is Here To Stay
Hold Me
Carnival Begin
Big Love
Go Insane
World Turning
Little Lies
Sleeping Around the Corner
Got A Hold On Me
Tusk
You Make Loving Fun
Go Your Own Way
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Lay Down For Free
Don't Stop
Game of Pretend

[McLamb]

Very happy here that the second leg will bring them to Florida!

Would be ecstatic if they'd consider making the following adjustments to the setlist:

Replace "Never Going Back Again" with "Save Me A Place"
Replace "Wish You Were Here" with "Over & Over"
Replace "Shut Us Down" with "Walk A Thin Line"
Replace "Little Lies" with "Got A Hold On Me"
Replace "You Make Loving Fun" with "Remember Me"
Add "Carnival Begin", and have it segue into "I'm So Afraid"
Replace "Game Of Pretend" with "Why"

Hope the "powers that be" with this tour see this!!!

[Macfan4life]

Very happy here that the second leg will bring them to Florida!

Would be ecstatic if they'd consider making the following adjustments to the setlist:

Replace "Never Going Back Again" with "Save Me A Place"
Replace "Wish You Were Here" with "Over & Over"
Replace "Shut Us Down" with "Walk A Thin Line"
Replace "Little Lies" with "Got A Hold On Me"
Replace "You Make Loving Fun" with "Remember Me"
Add "Carnival Begin", and have it segue into "I'm So Afraid"
Replace "Game Of Pretend" with "Why"

Hope the "powers that be" with this tour see this!!!
I love this :)
But dream on silly dreamer :eek:

[elle]

Very happy here that the second leg will bring them to Florida!

Would be ecstatic if they'd consider making the following adjustments to the setlist:

Replace "Never Going Back Again" with "Save Me A Place"
Replace "Wish You Were Here" with "Over & Over"
Replace "Shut Us Down" with "Walk A Thin Line"
Replace "Little Lies" with "Got A Hold On Me"
Replace "You Make Loving Fun" with "Remember Me"
Add "Carnival Begin", and have it segue into "I'm So Afraid"
Replace "Game Of Pretend" with "Why"

Hope the "powers that be" with this tour see this!!!

i love what you did here, and i think it's just the right way of thinking about it - pick which Chris songs you want replaced with some other Chris song, and the same with Lindsey's.

i really think Trouble and SUD need to go, and they should be replaced with a couple of LB Tusk songs - maybe a slower one like Walk A Thin Line or Save Me a Place, and a rocker like What Makes You Think You're the One or The Ledge that can fit later in the set, perhaps right after Hold Me since they are both never live played FM songs.

while i love Say You Love Me and wouldn't mind hearing BuckVie version, i think You Make Loving Fun is fantastic on this tour and they have tons of fun with it on this tour, as does audience. same with Tusk - this is the ultimate version of how Tusk should be done (in the absence of USC marching band). Chris-less versions of Tusk were dragging and boring in the years when she was not around.

i love all Chris' songs as they play them on this tour, and unlike others want WYWH to stay, but maybe adding one of her solo songs or one of BuckVie previous Mac collaborations would be nice (although i'm not crazy about Isn't It Midnight, might be interesting!).

they can easily add couple of songs to their current set too. if LB wants to stick with more than one acoustic song each, it would be fantastic to hear acoustic Red Rover.

[ryan4136]

The question really is, is there enough time between legs to create complete karaoke tracks for new songs?

[David]

I really really think they need to change up a few songs for the next leg! Be an artist and take risks guys!! :pI just played a video of "Wish You Were Here" on YouTube and thought it was lovely. That was an inspired choice for their set.

Maybe instead of "You Make Loving Fun," which people must be getting somewhat sick of, they can do the rocker "Isn't It Midnight?"

Other possibilities: "Save Me a Place," "Never Forget," "Get Like You Used to Be" (would it kill anyone if they added a blues song to the show?), or "I'd Rather Go Blind."

[secondhandchain]

I just played a video of "Wish You Were Here" on YouTube and thought it was lovely. That was an inspired choice for their set.

Maybe instead of "You Make Loving Fun," which people must be getting somewhat sick of, they can do the rocker "Isn't It Midnight?"

Other possibilities: "Save Me a Place," "Never Forget," "Get Like You Used to Be" (would it kill anyone if they added a blues song to the show?), or "I'd Rather Go Blind."

They really just need to shuffle up the songs a bit. Or move that beginning to the middle.

[HomerMcvie]

Very happy here that the second leg will bring them to Florida!

Would be ecstatic if they'd consider making the following adjustments to the setlist:

Replace "Never Going Back Again" with "Save Me A Place"
Replace "Wish You Were Here" with "Over & Over"
Replace "Shut Us Down" with "Walk A Thin Line"
Replace "Little Lies" with "Got A Hold On Me"
Replace "You Make Loving Fun" with "Remember Me"
Add "Carnival Begin", and have it segue into "I'm So Afraid"
Replace "Game Of Pretend" with "Why"

Hope the "powers that be" with this tour see this!!!

You're quite delusional. Just so you know.

[HomerMcvie]

The question really is, is there enough time between legs to create complete karaoke tracks for new songs?

I'm sure you're joking, but they're just playing with the studio tracks, along with a click track that only they can hear.

But I'm thrilled to hear someone else call it karaoke tracks.:D

[secondhandchain]

You're quite delusional. Just so you know.

Remeber me? LOL

[bwboy]

The question really is, is there enough time between legs to create complete karaoke tracks for new songs?

Lol! Too funny, but you're 100% right, the backing tracks are exactly why there won't be any changes to the set. But this thread is still fun to read, to see what people would like to hear.

I love Isn't It Midnight but I think Lindsey doesn't, either because of the guitar solo or that extended ending. Anybody else have theories as to why they didn't perform the song?

[Macfan4life]

When the set was announced I was surprised there was not more solo work. They are majorly promoting new music with so many new songs. They feel extra pressure to play Mac hits which is why we are getting only one solo song and so many Mac standards. They are feeding the Mac machine. Its probably not what THEY want but playing for the masses. Us rabid fans want more deeper cuts. I think they would love to play Isnt It Midnight but keeping 2 Tango hits in the set is important to the masses.

[HomerMcvie]

When the set was announced I was surprised there was not more solo work. They are majorly promoting new music with so many new songs. They feel extra pressure to play Mac hits which is why we are getting only one solo song and so many Mac standards. They are feeding the Mac machine. Its probably not what THEY want but playing for the masses. Us rabid fans want more deeper cuts. I think they would love to play Isnt It Midnight but keeping 2 Tango hits in the set is important to the masses.

Yeah, but 8 new songs is more than they've done since Tusk! I was thrilled with that. Now if they'd only add OWTS!

[Macfan4life]

Yeah, but 8 new songs is more than they've done since Tusk! I was thrilled with that. Now if they'd only add OWTS!
I love all the new songs. I just wish we would get more of each's solo work. This is a rare chance to hear those songs live.

[elle]

I love all the new songs. I just wish we would get more of each's solo work. This is a rare chance to hear those songs live.

i agree about Christine's solo work, since she doesn't tour solo.

for Lindsey, i'd rather he adds his Tusk deep cuts, instead of 2 solo songs he did at every. single. solo. tour. in this century.

[Macfan4life]

i agree about Christine's solo work, since she doesn't tour solo.

for Lindsey, i'd rather he adds his Tusk deep cuts, instead of 2 solo songs he did at every. single. solo. tour. in this century.
It drives me crazy that Christine does not appreciate her solo work. She is such a group member and trooper. She puts the group and Lindsey above herself. I bet they practiced a few of her solo songs and Lindsey may have encouraged her to do them. But she chose to play her big Mac hits. I love her solo albums so much so it drives me NUTS to miss an opportunity like this.

[nicepace]

It drives me crazy that Christine does not appreciate her solo work. She is such a group member and trooper. She puts the group and Lindsey above herself. I bet they practiced a few of her solo songs and Lindsey may have encouraged her to do them. But she chose to play her big Mac hits. I love her solo albums so much so it drives me NUTS to miss an opportunity like this.

I agree 100%! 'In the Meantime' was such a great album. Hearing "Friend" or "You Are" would be a dream come true. As a second choice, and probably a more realistic one, why can't they play something from her 1984 solo record? There were a couple of hits from that album, or they could take a little risk and play that wonderful duet song, "One in a Million."

To those who might comment that taking a risk is unknown to these musicians, I would respond that even doing this duo project in the first place was a risk. And playing eight new songs, and ending the shows with two new songs is a risk. Wouldn't it be splendid if they pushed the risk-taking a bit more in the second leg of the tour?

[jbrownsjr]

Very happy here that the second leg will bring them to Florida!

Would be ecstatic if they'd consider making the following adjustments to the setlist:

Replace "Never Going Back Again" with "Save Me A Place"
Replace "Wish You Were Here" with "Over & Over"
Replace "Shut Us Down" with "Walk A Thin Line"
Replace "Little Lies" with "Got A Hold On Me"
Replace "You Make Loving Fun" with "Remember Me"
Add "Carnival Begin", and have it segue into "I'm So Afraid"
Replace "Game Of Pretend" with "Why"

Hope the "powers that be" with this tour see this!!!


You are my kind of fan/!!!

[McLamb]

You are my kind of fan/!!!



Thanks!!! Just got tix today for Buckingham/McVie. The adjustments to the setlist are, of course, just wishful thinking.

There are many wonderful Christine songs from 1971-74 that would be so great to hear!!!