Best and worst bits of Buckingham McVie?

[FuzzyPlum]

What are your favourite and least favourite bits on this album?

Favourite:
Christine's pronunciation of fire on Game of Pretend;
You burn so bright just like a fy-ee-er

honorable mention:
When the first drum interlude kicks in on Too Far Gone

Least favourite:
Lindsey's creepy heavy breather voice at the very start of Sleeping Around the Corner. What a terrible way to open the album.

honorable mention:
I am a magnet, you are steel;
Noooooooo. I am a lemon, you are the peel. I am an axle, you are the wheel. I am the sole, you are the heel. I am a goldfish, you are an eel. Anything but magnet and bloody steel!

[24karatstevie]

Favorite: Christine's vocal inflection on the line "I always thought​ I heard you call" on Carnival Begin.

Honorable Mention: The outro of On With the Show.

Least Favorite: Definitely croaky whisper Lindsey on Sleeping Around the Corner.

Honorable Mention: The chorus of In My World.

[ViscountViktor]

Christine's "eeeeeven if you try" in Red Sun makes me cringe.

The lyrics in Feel About You. I like your suggestions much better Fuzzy :cool:

[bombaysaffires]

Favorite: Christine's vocal inflection on the line "I always thought​ I heard you call" on Carnival Begin.

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:nod: This.

[Frankenstein]

Least favourite:
Lindsey's creepy heavy breather voice at the very start of Sleeping Around the Corner. What a terrible way to open the album.

:laugh: Obscene caller.

I love Christine's voice on "a new merry-go-roouuuund" on Carnival Begin.

John's bass on In My World.

Mick's drum shuffle on Too Far Gone.

[Lola]

I love when Lindsey sings "I will do what I do best". At one point it almost sounds like a threat or a warning. I only hear it once and I'm not listening now/at work so forgive me for not pinpointing it. The line sounds self assured, factual then just once his voice has an edge to it.

[AnthonyMI]

Red Sun... the line "when we first began" should have been changed to "when we were young". It fits better.

[lennonfan]

Red Sun... the line "when we first began" should have been changed to "when we were young". It fits better.then it would be Adele:)

[aleuzzi]

Least favorite moment: song 1

Favorite moment: songs 4-10

[aleuzzi]

Red Sun... the line "when we first began" should have been changed to "when we were young". It fits better.

But it means something different. One can begin a relationship at any age and not necessarily be young. I admire and welcome the distinction she makes there.

[Netter75]

Favorite Bits:
1. The enthusiasm conveyed in "Carnival Begins" regarding Christine's return and involvement with Fleetwood Mac. Compare this to the lyrics in "Homeward Bound" or the indifferent attitude she displayed over the years in promoting Mirage, Tango, The Dance, etc. I've always loved Christine but she never came across as a particularly happy person in interviews and things, so her new enthusiasm all over this album and in promotional materials is infectious- it makes me happy just to see her happier than I've ever seen her. People complain about her recent television appearances- I love them for the sole fact that she is smiling in ALL of them.
2. The drums and rare confident Christine vocal on "Too Far Gone"
3. The Lindsey show-casing guitar on "Love is Here to Stay"
4. The guitar solo and exotic sound on "Carnival Begin"
5. The fact that through all of Lindsey's typical production style it still sounds like a band, with all members collaborating and showcasing their abilities.
6. The lines:

"My mind is if filled with journeys echoed in your smile" - Red Sun
"There'll come a day when we all feel the same and we live for the game" - On With the Show
"I stood by beside our broken bed" - Lay Down for Free

Least Favorite bits:
1. The fact that the three lead singles are imo the weakest songs on the album.
2. Everything about "Feel About You", particularly the vapid lyrics and demo-like production. I don't hate it, it's just incredibly lame and embodies everything that people dislike about Christine. What I dislike more than anything is it's use as a leading single. It was the first to showcase Christine since ITM, and it actually made me doubt both the album AND her. This is a shame because I like "Game of Pretend" quite a bit and the triple threat of the catchy "Red Sun", confident "Too Far Gone", and magnum opus "Carnival Begin" rank with some of her best work EVER. I guarantee that they'd garner more public interest if they played "Too Far Gone" on TV than "In My World".
3. The altered vocals on "In My World" that make Lindsey's voice unrecognizable.
4. The fact that the two vocalists aren't more audible on each other's tracks (even in harmonies).
5. As previously stated: whisper-y vocals on the verses on SATC that mar an otherwise catchy song.
6. The lines

"Dancing spinning dreaming, singing in my word" - In My World
"I don't wanna bring you down, no I never meant to give you a frown" - Sleeping Around the Corner
"I am so blessed, so blessed to find you" - Game of Pretend. There's just something about the inflection on "blessed" that irks me.
Every singe line of "Feel About You"

[Macfan4life]

Favorite moment listening to the album: The chorus for Red Sun - just fun to sing along with
Honorable mention: The drums on Too Far Gone

Least favorite moment: Missing hearing Stevie on back up on some tracks

[AlexD]

Best
1. Too Far Gone drums
2. The fact that Stevie isn't on the album

Worst
1. The drum skips a beat in the beginning on SATC

[lennonfan]

I'm loving this album so much it's hard to find much to pick apart at the moment, maybe after I've heard it another 10,000 times:)
From the very first 'am I getting up in the morning or imitating you, Stevie?' vocal which is so unique to a Mac record to Christine's fun Feel About You and that bass following the marimba...it's just too fab for words.

Best thing since Tango. Just song after song, so much to love here...

[BLY]

The best think about this album is every song is really good. That's what makes it so hard to rank them.
The worst think is that Stevie isn't on it.

[lilyfee]

Best: Carnival Begin! I wish Stevie sang on this so much. I feel like Stevie's Have No Heart could fit in next to this song.

Worst: At least some cliche and uninspired lyrics on almost every song. Even my favorite, Carnival Begin, has "North, West, East, and South". Every time I hear it I cringe a little thinking of Kimye's baby. Varies from a few cringey lyrics on a song, to IMHO the whole song is ruined due to the lyrics. Worst of the worst is "I never meant to give you a frown". I'm actually mortified on Lindsey's behalf.:distress:

[HomerMcvie]

Frown is a terrible choice! It's cringe worthy.

[elle]

Worst of the worst is "I never meant to give you a frown". I'm actually mortified on Lindsey's behalf.:distress:

Frown is a terrible choice! It's cringe worthy.

:laugh: i have to laugh every time when i read this from someone - it's actually probably my favorite lyric in that song, and i think it's really cool way to express who he's talking to / about. if you all don't understand it go watch Parent Trap - there's a whole conversation about a very similar British phrase there.

[FuzzyPlum]

I must be missing something... what is so wrong with '...give you a frown'???

[HomerMcvie]

I must be missing something... what is so wrong with '...give you a frown'???

Where are you from?

In American English, it's just a very cheesy way of wording something. The way a 1st grade child might rhyme something!

[FuzzyPlum]

Where are you from?

In American English, it's just a very cheesy way of wording something. The way a 1st grade child might rhyme something!


England, Surrey. To me it just sounds like common parlance...doesn't sound strange or childish. Maybe that's just me though.

[HomerMcvie]

England, Surrey. To me it just sounds like common parlance...doesn't sound strange or childish. Maybe that's just me though.

It must be a British thing.:wavey:

So Lindsey has no excuse!:laugh::laugh:

[elle]

It must be a British thing.:wavey:

So Lindsey has no excuse!:laugh::laugh:

It is a British thing. Finally you get it! He's talking about a british person in that song and that phrasing as well as "round the corner" is meant to quote and convey that message - obviously not working for many peeps not listening to language subtitles in the US of A.

[button-lip]

England, Surrey. To me it just sounds like common parlance...doesn't sound strange or childish. Maybe that's just me though.

It didn't sound strange to me either, but I didn't want to even open my mouth. :laugh:

It is a British thing. Finally you get it! He's talking about a british person in that song and that phrasing as well as "round the corner" is meant to quote and convey that message - obviously not working for many peeps not listening to language subtitles in the US of A.

Thanks for the explanation! I think I may have understood the meaning. :)

[Macfan4life]

Game of Pretend has really grown on me especially since I know the inspiration for the song. "You are the reason for my happiness" a song written for Chris's therapist to get her through her dark days. Just such an inspirational song.
It was one of my least favorite tracks when I first played the album. But its moving up the charts with a bullet.

[HomerMcvie]

It is a British thing. Finally you get it! He's talking about a british person in that song and that phrasing as well as "round the corner" is meant to quote and convey that message - obviously not working for many peeps not listening to language subtitles in the US of A.

Thank goodness you're here to give us the writer's intent.:lol:

[jbrownsjr]

Thank goodness you're here to give us the writer's intent.:lol:

He may have been talking about Christine.

[elle]

Thank goodness you're here to give us the writer's intent.:lol:
as you should be thankful for me being here!!
;):]

[button-lip]

He may have been talking about Christine.

After watching last night's intro, I think so, yes. :nod:

[fleetwoodguy79]

Game of Pretend has really grown on me especially since I know the inspiration for the song. "You are the reason for my happiness" a song written for Chris's therapist to get her through her dark days. Just such an inspirational song.
It was one of my least favorite tracks when I first played the album. But its moving up the charts with a bullet.

Game of Pretend was an immediate favorite from me on the first listen. It feels like stepping into a time capsule - could have been on Tusk and I wouldn't have known it was from 2017!

[HomerMcvie]

as you should be thankful for me being here!!
;):]

Please allow me to bow down in your presence.

[iamnotafraid]

If it were up to me I'd have accidentally erased Too Far Gone.

[Macfan4life]

If it were up to me I'd have accidentally erased Too Far Gone.
Oh wow. That's one of the best tracks IMHO

[justcrazylove]

It is the best track in my opinion. It belongs it the hall of fame of classic Buckingham riffs, alongside World Turning, Wrong, Wait For You, Rhiannon.

[jbrownsjr]

Best:

Too Far Gone
Carnival Begin
Love Is Here To Stay
Sleeping Around The Corner

Worst:

Lay Down For Free...zzzzzzzzzzzzz

This album really keeps moving. I love that about it. I don't really skip songs.
Mick and John really are present. So refreshing.

[FuzzyPlum]

If it were up to me I'd have accidentally erased Too Far Gone.


I really like Too Far Gone. My only gripe is the continuous use of '...going underground'. I can handle it once or twice but I think they should have changed it up a bit throughout the song. Going underground sounds a bit stupid, lazy, clichéd etc. Is it supposed to be a song about miners?

[button-lip]

I'm currently having no best or worst. I'm loving and enjoying and learning every song of this fantastic album. :]

[lennonfan]

I'm currently having no best or worst. I'm loving and enjoying and learning every song of this fantastic album. :]
that's my feeling as well.

[HomerMcvie]

Oh wow. That's one of the best tracks IMHO

I agree. The idea for the percussion breaks was sheer genius! They take it to another level.

[HomerMcvie]

Lay Down For Free...zzzzzzzzzzzzz

This album really keeps moving. I love that about it. I don't really skip songs.
Mick and John really are present. So refreshing.

I agree. It's VERY generic filler. And worst of all, the instrumental riff in the chorus, it's all tracks, live. Nobody is playing it, yet it's there, prominent in the mix. Lindsey could have at least played the notes on guitar, rather than let the karaoke machine do it. :mad:

I don't skip songs, either. An album is a work, meant to be listened to, front to back. At least by FM, they are.

I'm in love with it, though.

[jbrownsjr]

I agree. It's VERY generic filler. And worst of all, the instrumental riff in the chorus, it's all tracks, live. Nobody is playing it, yet it's there, prominent in the mix. Lindsey could have at least played the notes on guitar, rather than let the karaoke machine do it. :mad:

I don't skip songs, either. An album is a work, meant to be listened to, front to back. At least by FM, they are.

I'm in love with it, though.

It's not like anything that Christine and Lindsey aren't playing live is tough or difficult. She could play Hold Me in her sleep. I just watched her play Songbird on the BBC. I'm not loving this LIndsey backing tracks stuff. If this is what he thinks is modern or cutting edge, he's mistaken. It's artistic laziness. Bring on 24K II!!

[ViscountViktor]

Lay Down For Free is a snoozefest.

The only track I skip is Feel About You, I just can't stand to listen to those lyrics.

[HomerMcvie]

It's not like anything that Christine and Lindsey aren't playing live is tough or difficult. She could play Hold Me in her sleep. I just watched her play Songbird on the BBC. I'm not loving this LIndsey backing tracks stuff. If this is what he thinks is modern or cutting edge, he's mistaken. It's artistic laziness. Bring on 24K II!!

I know. Makes me wonder if Wonder Woman is slipping. Because they've made it where she doesn't have to really play. WHY would they do that? Is she drifting a bit, where she's afraid she won't remember it, or maybe it's arthritis?

He IS mistaken. It's super cheesy, and less would be more. Big machine. Small machine. Karaoke machine.

[iamnotafraid]

Sorry guys, you all are just wrong about Too Far Gone.

Nine out of ten isn't bad right?

[Netter75]

I know. Makes me wonder if Wonder Woman is slipping. Because they've made it where she doesn't have to really play. WHY would they do that? Is she drifting a bit, where she's afraid she won't remember it, or maybe it's arthritis?

He IS mistaken. It's super cheesy, and less would be more. Big machine. Small machine. Karaoke machine.

Honestly I don't care if she actually plays or not, I'm sure the reason (be it arthritis or a focus on vocals) is legit but I wish they wouldn't fake it. Just let someone else play and have Christine stand up front like she does on Tusk, Everywhere, Say You Love Me, etc. I'm sure she's not as comfortable without an instrument at her fingers but it would be a little less insulting to the audience.

I have doubts that these shows are being attended by casual Fleetwood Mac fans who came to see "Don't Stop". They're harder fans that came to see Christine McVie and Lindsey Buckingham do their thing, and thus will love it whether its a pitch-perfect production or not. They don't need to do it up like they may have to in order to please a giant Fleetwood Mac arena audience. The tracks and fake-playing are unnecessary and distracting.

[secondhandchain]

I have some complaints about the drums on certain songs. Is that Mick playing on Red Sun and Lay down for free? Because they feel like drum machines. I would have preferred live drums (like Micks fabulous playing on In my World). Love the songs but not the drums.

[Frankenstein]

The frown lyric in SATC isn't as bad as: We made sweet love over and over, she said oh sweet darlin I'm your little red rover :eek:

[bombaysaffires]

The frown lyric in SATC isn't as bad as: We made sweet love over and over, she said oh sweet darlin I'm your little red rover :eek:

well, but that's better than "come to me darlin' and hold me/come and keep your daddy warm" :eek:

or any of the "hear I come baby" theatrics.........:distress:

[MoonSister75]

My CD just arrived today. I've been busy and was late in ordering it. The reviews on amazon are great, and it seems to be going down well on here. I'm looking forward to playing it in my car - my favourite place to listen to music.

[jbrownsjr]

My CD just arrived today. I've been busy and was late in ordering it. The reviews on amazon are great, and it seems to be going down well on here. I'm looking forward to playing it in my car - my favourite place to listen to music.

Nice!! Sales have been way better than what I expected. And, the concerts are starting to sell. They added 2 more dates. NY and LA. Greek Theater in Los Angeles is awesome! I saw Joni Mitchell there in 1999, and CSN there in the late 80's.

[KenB]

Best, for me, are the three tracks I find myself wanting to play over and over again: Feel About You, Red Sun, and the absolutely sublime On With the Show.

Worst are Game of Pretend, Lay Down for Free, and In My World. I like every track but those three.

[MoonSister75]

Nice!! Sales have been way better than what I expected. And, the concerts are starting to sell. They added 2 more dates. NY and LA. Greek Theater in Los Angeles is awesome! I saw Joni Mitchell there in 1999, and CSN there in the late 80's.

Yes it's selling better than I thought it would, and it's had decent exposure over here on Radio2. I'm really pleased for them, and glad they decided to release this music. Enjoy the shows! - it must be great seeing them in smaller venues.

[ViscountViktor]

The tracks I always come back to are On With The Show, Love Is Here To Stay and In My World.

Christine's stuff is great but Lindsey in these three. SATC and LDFF less so.

[GypsySorcerer]

The frown lyric in SATC isn't as bad as: We made sweet love over and over, she said oh sweet darlin I'm your little red rover :eek:

Yeah, that's terrible. :eek: It's just doesn't strike me as very Lindsey-like.

[Netter75]

The frown lyric in SATC isn't as bad as: We made sweet love over and over, she said oh sweet darlin I'm your little red rover :eek:

I dislike so much about this song but at the same time I can't get the chorus out of my head :(. Can't tell if it is a "Talking in Your Sleep" deal where it will grow on me or "Whip it" where it will start to gnaw at my brain.