Is this Fleetwood Mac?

[secret love]

There is a bit of a divide, many ledgies consider Buckingham/McVie Fleetwood Mac ...and a rose by any other name smells just as sweet...others buy the story that this was always going to be a duet album regardless of Stevie's movements.

It didn't sound like Fleetwood Mac to me until I heard Red Sun. Feel About You I love but it sounds like Christine solo featuring Lindsey.

So I'll try to add a poll.

[BLY]

Mick Fleetwood and John McVie have always made it FLEETWOOD MAC.

[bwboy]

Christine, Lindsey, John, and Mick play on the album, so it's a Fleetwood Mac album, just without Stevie.

[button-lip]

It was always a Fleetwood Mac album, no matter which member of the band was absent, so yes, it's a FM album. :nod:

[sorcerer999]

Do we know for sure if Mick and John play on EVERY song? Have the liner notes been transcribed yet? :shrug:

If they DO play on every song, then YES, I would surely call this a Fleetwood Mac record.

However, if they only play on a handful of songs (and Lindsey or other people do drums/bass on the other songs) then I would call this Buckingham McVie with Mick Fleetwood and John McVie as guest artists.

Guess we'll know for sure on Friday.

[elle]

Do we know for sure if Mick and John play on EVERY song?

yes, pretty sure we do, they said so in every single interview so far.

[TrueFaith77]

yes, pretty sure we do, they said so in every single interview so far.

Even sleeping Around the Corner?

[elle]

Even sleeping Around the Corner?

i was wondering about that one. it's clearly re-recorded though and not the original 2011 version.

[aleuzzi]

I voted yes, but I have a reservation. Because Stevie passed and the rest of the band dared not name the project what it really was, some of the pressure to make this a full-fledged Mac album was off. As a result, many of the songs, which are catchy, bright, and well-arranged, are still not given as full a treatment as the songs on SYW. Like many of LB's solo albums from 2005 onward, as well as Christine's ITM, many of these "duets" have a boutique feel about them. Carnival Begin, On With the Show, Red Sun, and Love is Here to Stay sound as if they could fit right into context on SYW. But Feel About You, In My Dreams, Sleeping Around the Corner, and Too Far Gone, though well performed, don't really FEEL like full-fledged Mac productions to me.

[elle]

Carnival Begin, On With the Show, Red Sun, and Love is Here to Stay sound as if they could fit right into context on SYW. But Feel About You, In My Dreams, Sleeping Around the Corner, and Too Far Gone, though well performed, don't really FEEL like full-fledged Mac productions to me.

there's In My Dreams on ths album? :lol: :cool:;):laugh::xoxo:

[Phil]

One of the album reviews mentioned that Mick and John play on 8 of the 10 tracks.

[aleuzzi]

there's In My Dreams on ths album? :lol: :cool:;):laugh::xoxo:

Call me Tony Typo.

[MikeVielhaber]

One of the album reviews mentioned that Mick and John play on 8 of the 10 tracks.

Are there any songs without drums and bass? I doubt they got someone else to come in and do it. If anything Lindsey may have played the parts himself.

[guillamene]

This begs the question-was 'Tango in the Night' Fleetwood Mac?
It certainly didn't sound like a 'band 'effort.

[secret love]

This begs the question-was 'Tango in the Night' Fleetwood Mac?
It certainly didn't sound like a 'band 'effort.

If anything, Tango in the Night was Buckingham/McVie Volume I.

[jwd]

I'd have to say yes because all the musicians are present. Stevie is an integral part of FM, but not the be all and end all in this band.

[Dreamz19]

John and Mick alone makes it Fleetwood Mac. Having Lindsey, Christine, John and Mick on the album really seals it. So if Say You Will was called FM, than this album should have been called the same.

[Macfan4life]

I don't see how Mick, John, Christine, and Lindsey can play together and sing and it not sound like Fleetwood Mac. The album sounds very much like Fleetwood Mac.

[TheWildHeart67]

John and Mick aren't touring this. It's not Fleetwood Mac

[secret love]

I'm a man and this is the only record this year, whatever you call it, that has given me multiple eargasms.

[SteveMacD]

John and Mick aren't touring this. It's not Fleetwood Mac
The album is Fleetwood Mac. If Stevie came in with two or three songs at the last minute, it would have been released as Fleetwood Mac. The only way they could sell this album not being Fleetwood Mac is by not having Mick and John on the tour.

[TheWildHeart67]

The album is Fleetwood Mac. If Stevie came in with two or three songs at the last minute, it would have been released as Fleetwood Mac. The only way they could sell this album not being Fleetwood Mac is by not having Mick and John on the tour.

I guess that is valid.
It sounds like FM on certain songs.

[HomerMcvie]

John and Mick aren't touring this. It's not Fleetwood Mac

The tour, no. The record, YES.

[BLY]

The tour, no. The record, YES.





That's exactly right!

[SorcererJP]

It's not Fleetwood Mac, it's Buckingham McVie, besides. If it was FM all these threads should belong in the post-rumours section of this forum.

In my opinion it's another Lindsey solo-album, with contributions of Christine's songs ...

[HomerMcvie]

It's not Fleetwood Mac, it's Buckingham McVie, besides. If it was FM all these threads should belong in the post-rumours section of this forum.

In my opinion it's another Lindsey solo-album, with contributions of Christine's songs ...

So the years that Christine was gone weren't Fleetwood Mac...

Thanks for clearing that up.

[ViscountViktor]

One of the album reviews mentioned that Mick and John play on 8 of the 10 tracks.

Seeing as Lindsey produced SATC and LIHTS on his own, I'm guessing those are the two Mick and John aren't involved in, plus Lindsey is credited for bass, drums and percussion as well.

[SteveMacD]

Seeing as Lindsey produced SATC and LIHTS on his own, I'm guessing those are the two Mick and John aren't involved in, plus Lindsey is credited for bass, drums and percussion as well.
"Credited" being the operative word. It's not like Lindsey didn't occasionally play bass and drums on other Fleetwood Mac albums. ("Second Hand News" comes to mind.)

[SteveMacD]

It's not Fleetwood Mac, it's Buckingham McVie, besides. If it was FM all these threads should belong in the post-rumours section of this forum.
Not anymore than the SYW era.

In my opinion it's another Lindsey solo-album, with contributions of Christine's songs ...
Half the songs are hers, and Mick and John play on most of it. It's really not much different than TITN. I don't think you understand what "solo" means.

[justcrazylove]

Yeah this argument that people are presenting that this is a Lindsey solo album, clearly don't know his solo work that well. When he is solo Lindsey generally plays all the instruments, only layers his own vocals ext. Yes i know he has had Mick and John play on tracks that were in the past intended for Fleetwood Mac. But this assertion that this album is a Lindsey record and that Chris is "guesting" is so offensive to the rest of the members of this band, almost denying their legacy and musicianship that runs though this band like no other.

[SteveMacD]

Yes i know he has had Mick and John play on tracks that were in the past intended for Fleetwood Mac.
I think the original GoS was recorded in a way that allowed flexibility as to how it could be released, given the changes at the label that began in 1994.

I completely agree that calling this a glorified LB solo album is an insult to the others, but it also ignores the fact that it started out before Christine returned as a Fleetwood Mac project AND it ignores all of the writing credits on TITN.

TITN vs. LB/CM (excluding Stevie, including B-sides):

TITN
LB: 3
LB/RD: 1
CM: 1
CM/EQ: 1
CM/LB: 3
CM/LB/EQ: 1

LB/CM
LB: 5
LB/CM: 3
CM: 2

[mitzo]

It's not Fleetwood Mac, it's Buckingham McVie, besides. If it was FM all these threads should belong in the post-rumours section of this forum.

In my opinion it's another Lindsey solo-album, with contributions of Christine's songs ...

Yes it is a Linds solo album with some songs from from Christine. Just as SYW was a Linds solo album with a Stevie solo album grafted on. Not that that is a bad thing at all. It just means that a lot of us will either skip through many tracks or only buy some tracks rather than the whole.

[justcrazylove]

As was Tango in the Night, this being due to the fact that clearly Lindsey is the most prolific in the band. Since easily 1987 - Lindsey has been the one consistently writing music. Hence all projects have started with Lindsey's material. He's the working musician.

[SteveMacD]

Yes it is a Linds solo album with some songs from from Christine. Just as SYW was a Linds solo album with a Stevie solo album grafted on.
Except that this specifically started out as a Fleetwood Mac project when LB came up with some music for Stevie to write lyrics to and sing. Stevie declined (thus giving the world Extended Play instead), but Christine was all for it when she returned.

[Peestie]

Except that this specifically started out as a Fleetwood Mac project when LB came up with some music for Stevie to write lyrics to and sing. Stevie declined (thus giving the world Extended Play instead), but Christine was all for it when she returned.

Exactly. Lindsey songs here are clearly written with FM in mind and to try to leave room for collaboration. With the exceptions of IMW and LIHTS none of Lindsey's songs sound like they would be at home on his solo albums (SATC is borderline). Ditto his EP contributions.