View Full Version : Yet another 4-star review for Buckingham McVie - Q Magazine
tango87
06-06-2017, 10:49 AM
Another UK magazine really likes the album, although it does read as though they think 'In My World' is a Christine song:
http://i1320.photobucket.com/albums/u537/tangointhenight87/FullSizeRender4_zpsb7xczrg9.jpg (http://s1320.photobucket.com/user/tangointhenight87/media/FullSizeRender4_zpsb7xczrg9.jpg.html)
lennonfan
06-06-2017, 10:55 AM
we live in a season of MAC.
TrueFaith77
06-06-2017, 12:08 PM
sigh someone got paid to write that :shrug:
jbrownsjr
06-06-2017, 12:50 PM
sigh someone got paid to write that :shrug:
Honestly, I wonder if Paul listened to the album. :rolleyes:
Lindsey Buckingham and Christine McVie, ‘Lindsey Buckingham/Christine McVie': Album Review
By Michael Gallucci June 6, 2017 11:27 AM
Atlantic
The backstory behind Lindsey Buckingham and Christine McVie‘s self-titled album is filled with plenty of the drama their famous Fleetwood Mac lineup has been serving up since the mid ’70s.
That classic quintet — Buckingham, McVie, Stevie Nicks, Mick Fleetwood and John McVie — was set to record its first album since 1987’s Tango in the Night when Nicks decided to focus on her solo career instead, leaving new material written by Buckingham and Christine McVie — some together, some separately — without a home … until they pushed forward with the project, reconfigured as a duet record, and recruited drummer Fleetwood and bassist John McVie.
So, basically, Lindsey Buckingham/Christine McVie is a Fleetwood Mac record minus one key member. Nothing new for the often-splintered group: 1990’s Behind the Mask was made without Buckingham, 1995’s Time without Buckingham and Nicks and 2003’s Say You Will (which followed the reunited band’s 1997 live comeback, The Dance) without Christine McVie. And like the albums made over the past quarter century, there are some good moments, some underwhelming ones and some missed opportunities
Thankfully, Lindsey Buckingham/Christine McVie is a lot closer to the springy Say You Will than the forgettable Time. It starts with three killer songs: Buckingham’s “Sleeping Around the Corner,” “Feel About You,” a co-write with McVie, and “My World,” another Buckingham composition. And it reinforces just how reliable Fleetwood Mac can be, even without their most popular singer-songwriter.
Nicks is clearly missed at times, especially her part in the vocal trio’s harmonies. But Buckingham — one of music’s most undervalued guitarists, singers, songwriters and producers — checks in with some of his most engaging songs in years. And McVie, who last released a solo record in 2004, sounds revitalized following her long absence from the studio.
Occasionally the album comes off as separate and distinct solo records, sorta like Fleetwood Mac’s 1979 Tusk, the double LP that often found the band’s three singer-songwriters serving as each other’s backing players. (Indeed, “Sleeping Around the Corner” first appeared as a bonus track on Buckingham’s last solo record, 2011’s Seeds We Sow.) But Lindsey Buckingham/Christine McVie still manages to fall together thanks to the two artists’ undeniable creative fusion, which powered songs like “Don’t Stop” and “Think About Me” in the past.
There’s filler — “Too Far Gone,” the album’s heaviest song, relies on a riff and percussion breakdown borrowed from “Tusk,” and McVie is best when pushed outside of the confines of her big melancholy piano ballad here, “Game of Pretend” — but the majestic pop landscapes Buckingham drops most of the songs into make even the flimsiest tracks a treat to hear. And the longtime rhythm team of Fleetwood and McVie consistently and effortlessly locks into the grooves. In other words, Lindsey Buckingham/Christine McVie is a pretty good Fleetwood Mac album. It’s Nicks’ loss.
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jbrownsjr
06-06-2017, 01:01 PM
Too Far Gone is so much fun to listen to!
http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/wireStory/review-buckingham-mcvie-album-fleetwood-mac-47844571
Review: Buckingham-McVie album is nearly all Fleetwood Mac
By PABLO GORONDI, ASSOCIATED PRESS Jun 5, 2017, 1:20 PM ET
This cover image released by Atlantic Records shows a self-titled album by Lindsey Buckingham and Christine McVie. (Atlantic Records via AP)The Associated Press
Lindsey Buckingham and Christine McVie, "Lindsay Buckingham Christine McVie" (Atlantic)
The first duet album from Lindsey Buckingham and Christine McVie is nearly Fleetwood Mac, with only Stevie Nicks missing from the band's classic lineup.
Its development began even before McVie rejoined the band after 16 years for the 2014-2015 "On With the Show" tour, when Buckingham recorded several songs with the Mac rhythm section of Mick Fleetwood and John McVie, who also contribute to the finished album.
More layers were added when Buckingham worked on snippets of chords, lyrics and melodies he was sent by McVie and a couple of their writing collaborations — the vocals-soaked pop of "Red Sun" and "Too Far Gone," with a Knopfler-esque, bluesy guitar riff and pounding drums — are among the highlights of the self-titled album.
"Game of Pretend" is a trademark McVie piano-led ballad which starts with great promise but turns to mush on the refrain. The other track she penned alone on the 10-song album is the excellent closer "Carnival Begin," her best vocal wonderfully framed by Buckingham's production touches and his typically yearning guitar solo that fades away too soon.
If the album was meant to be part of a full Fleetwood Mac comeback at some point, the Buckingham tunes have more of a solo album feel.
Still, the track sharing a name with the last Mac tour reveals both the beauty and apparent inescapability in the life of a musician like Buckingham — "As long as I stand, I will take your hand, I will stand with my band/There's nowhere to go, but on down the road, let's get on with the show."
FuzzyPlum
06-06-2017, 01:28 PM
'It’s Nicks’ loss'
TrueFaith77
06-06-2017, 01:30 PM
I hope I get to tell Lindsey and Christine how great the refrain on "GoP" is... these reviews are so wrong.
bwboy
06-06-2017, 02:09 PM
'It’s Nicks’ loss'
"All that's missing is the presence of the witchy Stevie Nicks."
Just tit for tat- I suppose for virtually every review that supports her absence, there's one that misses her. But hopefully the reviews (and comments here) will continue to focus on the music, not the personalities who aren't even on the record;)
TrueFaith77
06-06-2017, 02:58 PM
"All that's missing is the presence of the witchy Stevie Nicks."
Just tit for tat- I suppose for virtually every review that supports her absence, there's one that misses her. But hopefully the reviews (and comments here) will continue to focus on the music, not the personalities who aren't even on the record;)
I listen for the latest installment in the soap opera. She may not be on the record, but she is a signifying absence just as much if not more than Chris was on SYW.
FuzzyPlum
06-06-2017, 03:04 PM
Just tit for tat- I suppose for virtually every review that supports her absence, there's one that misses her.
I'm not sure there are any/many reviews that support her absence per se. Certainly, 'It's Nicks' loss' isn't suggesting its good she's not there- just that its a good album and she would have been better off being on it.
jbrownsjr
06-06-2017, 03:10 PM
I'm not sure there are any/many reviews that support her absence per se. Certainly, 'It's Nicks' loss' isn't suggesting its good she's not there- just that its a good album and she would have been better off being on it.
Agreed, I think it was a sincere way of saying that she missed an opportunity that would have benefited both parties. The personalities are just as much as a component of music, imo. It's Fleetwood Mac! :)
Murrow
06-06-2017, 03:44 PM
Good going considering every newly released Mac studio album since Q's inception only got three stars.
bwboy
06-06-2017, 04:18 PM
I'm not sure there are any/many reviews that support her absence per se. Certainly, 'It's Nicks' loss' isn't suggesting its good she's not there- just that its a good album and she would have been better off being on it.
I understand. Just like "All that's missing is the presence of the witchy Stevie Nicks" suggests that it's a good album and would have been better if she had been on it. Like I said, hopefully future reviews will focus on the music. I understand her absence may be mentioned, just like Lindsey's was on Behind the Mask, and Christine's was on Say You Will, but considering Chris and Lindsey are saying this isn't a Fleetwood Mac album, well, it's confusing enough as is. But us folks here on the Ledge know the scoop, so hopefully people can continue to like and praise or maybe not praise the album based on the music, and not on who isn't on the album. I would hate to think that someone wouldn't like the album just because Nicks isn't on it. That wouldn't make any sense- you either like the songs or you don't, right? No matter who is playing on them.
Glad to hear the album is getting good reviews. I'm excited to see what Rolling Stone and Billboard will say.
aleuzzi
06-06-2017, 05:13 PM
Lindsey Buckingham and Christine McVie, ‘Lindsey Buckingham/Christine McVie': Album Review
By Michael Gallucci June 6, 2017 11:27 AM
Atlantic
The backstory behind Lindsey Buckingham and Christine McVie‘s self-titled album is filled with plenty of the drama their famous Fleetwood Mac lineup has been serving up since the mid ’70s.
That classic quintet — Buckingham, McVie, Stevie Nicks, Mick Fleetwood and John McVie — was set to record its first album since 1987’s Tango in the Night when Nicks decided to focus on her solo career instead, leaving new material written by Buckingham and Christine McVie — some together, some separately — without a home … until they pushed forward with the project, reconfigured as a duet record, and recruited drummer Fleetwood and bassist John McVie.
So, basically, Lindsey Buckingham/Christine McVie is a Fleetwood Mac record minus one key member. Nothing new for the often-splintered group: 1990’s Behind the Mask was made without Buckingham, 1995’s Time without Buckingham and Nicks and 2003’s Say You Will (which followed the reunited band’s 1997 live comeback, The Dance) without Christine McVie. And like the albums made over the past quarter century, there are some good moments, some underwhelming ones and some missed opportunities
Thankfully, Lindsey Buckingham/Christine McVie is a lot closer to the springy Say You Will than the forgettable Time. It starts with three killer songs: Buckingham’s “Sleeping Around the Corner,” “Feel About You,” a co-write with McVie, and “My World,” another Buckingham composition. And it reinforces just how reliable Fleetwood Mac can be, even without their most popular singer-songwriter.
Nicks is clearly missed at times, especially her part in the vocal trio’s harmonies. But Buckingham — one of music’s most undervalued guitarists, singers, songwriters and producers — checks in with some of his most engaging songs in years. And McVie, who last released a solo record in 2004, sounds revitalized following her long absence from the studio.
Occasionally the album comes off as separate and distinct solo records, sorta like Fleetwood Mac’s 1979 Tusk, the double LP that often found the band’s three singer-songwriters serving as each other’s backing players. (Indeed, “Sleeping Around the Corner” first appeared as a bonus track on Buckingham’s last solo record, 2011’s Seeds We Sow.) But Lindsey Buckingham/Christine McVie still manages to fall together thanks to the two artists’ undeniable creative fusion, which powered songs like “Don’t Stop” and “Think About Me” in the past.
There’s filler — “Too Far Gone,” the album’s heaviest song, relies on a riff and percussion breakdown borrowed from “Tusk,” and McVie is best when pushed outside of the confines of her big melancholy piano ballad here, “Game of Pretend” — but the majestic pop landscapes Buckingham drops most of the songs into make even the flimsiest tracks a treat to hear. And the longtime rhythm team of Fleetwood and McVie consistently and effortlessly locks into the grooves. In other words, Lindsey Buckingham/Christine McVie is a pretty good Fleetwood Mac album. It’s Nicks’ loss.
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Meh. The writer passive-aggressively snubs Christine by underplaying her contributions.
And Too Far Gone doesn't quote the Tusk riff. Still, it's a pretty positive recognition of Buckingham.
BombaySapphire3
06-06-2017, 06:00 PM
Good going considering every newly released Mac studio album since Q's inception only got three stars.
Lindsey's solo albums since the inception of his solo career have almost always gotten better reviews than any new Fleetwood Mac album since that time.
secondhandchain
06-06-2017, 07:27 PM
[QUOTE=bwboy;1210874]I understand. Just like "All that's missing is the presence of the witchy Stevie Nicks" suggests that it's a good album and would have been better if she had been on it.
That's not what I am hearing. She missed out on a good opportunity. The album is good and she should have participated. Her loss. Would it have been better or worse? Who knows.
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vivfox
06-06-2017, 09:09 PM
Meh. The writer passive-aggressively snubs Christine by underplaying her contributions.
And Too Far Gone doesn't quote the Tusk riff. Still, it's a pretty positive recognition of Buckingham.
Well it kinda sorta does. That's what I think of every time I hear it.
aleuzzi
06-06-2017, 09:20 PM
Well it kinda sorta does. That's what I think of every time I hear it.
I hear bits of the World Turning riff in there. And any number of Lb's solo songs.
I hear bits of the World Turning riff in there. And any number of Lb's solo songs.
Tusk, Wrong and World Turning, for sure.
ryan4136
06-07-2017, 09:58 AM
LB is a serial recycler
Lindsey's solo albums since the inception of his solo career have almost always gotten better reviews than any new Fleetwood Mac album since that time.
because they are better than FM albums. :shrug:
another review -
http://rreverb.com/lindsey-buckingham-christine-mcvie/
Lindsey Buckingham & Christine McVie
Max Comeau 2017/06/07
Lindsey Buckingham & Christine McVie
3.5/5
On with the show…
There are a couple of points that need to be cleared up, right off the bat, before going any further with this review of the much anticipated Buckingham/McVie album.
First off, this is not a duets album. When one thinks “duets”, one thinks of Frank and Nancy Sinatra singing “Something Stupid” or Paul and Michael, singing “Say, Say, Say” or even Miss Piggy trading lines with Ozzy Osbourne doing “Born to be Wild”. This Buckingham McVie album plays more like a Fleetwood Mac album where each song is led by its respective writer and the other member provides (or does not provide, on most songs) harmonies.
Second, I am a huge fan of both Fleetwood Mac (all eras) and particularly of guitar man, Lindsey Buckingham. His past three solo albums, released between 2006 and 2011, are all absolute masterpieces. Fleetwood Mac’s “Extended Play”, released in 2013, with Lindsey and Stevie Nicks sharing vocals was also an absolute gem. Christine McVie’s return to the band in 2014 was an absolute shocker that none of us expected and we were reminded of how she creates a perfect balance between the heavy drama of Nicks’ songs and the tense and tormented songs of Buckingham.
It was long rumored, no pun intended, that all three songwriters would participate in a full-on Fleetwood Mac album. Sadly, Nicks opted out in order to concentrate on touring and promoting her most recent, critically-acclaimed album, “24 Karat Gold”. She says “no one buys music anymore” and this music lover couldn’t be more discouraged at her defeatist attitude in this regard. But, perhaps it’s the never-ending tension between her and ex-lover and visionary Buckingham that made her walk away. That’s neither here nor there. The full band will be performing together this summer and all is apparently well.
So back to this Buckingham/McVie album that in stores June 9.
It’s a joy hearing these two songwriters still following their muse, it’s also a joy that they have their band’s John McVie (Christine McVie’s ex-husband) and Mick Fleetwood on bass and drums, respectively. It is, by all accounts, every bit as much a Fleetwood Mac album as 2003’s “Say You Will” was. That one was missing Christine McVie, this one’s missing Stevie Nicks… and the band’s moniker.
As brilliant as Buckingham has been, and continues to be, many of the choices he makes here are confounding and leave fans such as myself completely mystified, pun intended. (Buckingham and McVie co-wrote 1987’s Tango in the Night favorite ‘Mystified’). For instance, the album opens with “Sleeping around the Corner”. It features a classic Buckingham earworm of a chorus and is a fine song but: he released this song as an iTunes bonus track to his 2011 album, “Seeds We Sow” and Christine McVie is not in any way, shape, or form featured. If she is playing keyboards or harmonizing – she is barely audible. Why would you open a so-called duets album with a song that only features one of the two participants? It feels like a highly unsatisfactory opener considering the circumstances.
We then get the required Christine McVie’s classic, feel-good, McCartney-lite bopper, “Feel About You”. It features lines such as “Your honey in my tea, the kind of taste that’s sweetest to me”. This is about as profound as her TUSK ditty “Honey Hi”. And that’s okay. We’ve never turned to McVie for anything too deep and heavy. Her biggest Fleetwood Mac hits “Say You Love Me”, “Don’t Stop”, “Hold Me” and “Everywhere”, to name but a few, were all light and summery odes to love and heartbreak. However, “Feel About You” feels a tad too sugary sweet. Buckingham’s sparse arrangement leaves us wishing there was a bit more to the track than what is actually there.
“In My World” is next and it was also the first single released. This, for me, stands proudly alongside some of Buckingham’s finest ever song writing and producing moments. Again, it’s as sparse as can be; McVie sounds like she was nowhere near the studio when it was recorded (save for some Rhodes/organ parts in the bridge, perhaps) and Buckingham seems to once again be addressing his ex, Stevie Nicks. “In my world, everybody stays. Nobody wishes for words they couldn’t say”, he sings poignantly on the chorus. Is he, indeed, addressing La Nicks? Does he wish things were simpler? Does he wish everybody just stayed onboard and kept fighting the good fight? This writer thinks so. When this single came out a couple of months ago, I actually spent an entire evening without ever going to bed and just listening to the track on repeat. It had the arranger/producer in me dissecting every shaker, every guitar pluck and John McVie’s nimble bassline as well as Mick Fleetwood’s signature drum fills. Love it or hate it, social media has been split in its verdict of the song. Some people find it too light and airy, saying it’s under-produced or overproduced (I’ve heard both), others hear it for the absolute gem that it is. A little hint of 2003’s “Peacekeeper” and some vocal breathing references to their classic 80s album, “Tango in the Night”, it’s a joy for the ears.
We’re back in 1975-era Fleetwood Mac territory with the following Christine McVie-penned, “Red Sun”. Hopelessly romantic, McVie harmonizes with herself (again, are you guys sure you want to promote this as a duets album?) and sounds wonderfully warm and heartfelt. The lyrics are, once again, a little simple but a good, hooky chorus helps this standout – plus – Buckingham’s subtle solo is so him, even a novice would spot it. “… when the red sun kisses the sea”.
Another confounding Buckingham moment comes next. One of the album’s gems, “Love is here to stay” is classic Buckingham fingerpicking with a very Fleetwood Mac-flavored chorus reminiscent of “Save Me a Place” and “Steal Your Heart Away”. The issue here, if it even is an issue, the music is exactly one of his 2012 contributions to the “This is 40” soundtrack, “She Acts Like You”. Why would one of the world’s most creative guitarist/composers re-use an old song and simply write new lyrics for it? It seems rather lazy. He’s referenced his previous works in songs before, recycling lines, images, and riffs but it’s always done rather discreetly and you never question its artistic purity. In this instance, it’s all too obvious and something anybody would spot immediately. He probably figured that not that many people were familiar with “She Acts Like You” so nobody would notice but – I invite you all to compare both songs. If you’re anything like me, you might start feeling a tad uncomfortable. A shame because it’s a lovely lyric and, of course, guitar part. Oh, once again, not too sure McVie’s singing on those hooky choruses. Sounds like Buckingham double, triple, quadruple-tracked to me.
Some have called the next song a blatant recall of 1979’s masterpiece title track, “TUSK”. That’s a little silly. The song not only features percussion that reminds one a bit of “TUSK” but it also has an obvious nod to the duo’s first collaboration, 1975’s “World Turning”. McVie sings leads with what sounds like Buckingham backing her tightly. When the chorus kicks in, it’s classic Fleetwood Mac. You sort of wish Nicks was there harmonizing and hitting her tambourine. When Fleetwood treats us to his multi-tracked drum folly next, it’s pure heaven to this Fleetwood Mac lover’s ears. What a beauty! Other than the obvious references to the past, I’d be hard-pressed to criticize anything about this fun rocker other than a few arguably lazy lyrics. And what’s wrong with referencing the past when you have one of the richest, most wonderful bodies of work?
“The rain came and washed away my fear, I heard you whisper in my ear: I won’t lay down for free” is the hook-line of Buckingham’s “Lay Down For Free”. Again, it’s nearly impossible not to think of this as a clear message to Stevie. They have continually, mutually continued to inspire songs for one another and this has to be one of those. This song would’ve sounded right in its place on Buckingham’s 1992 gem, “Out of the Cradle” and features some of his warmest vocals ever. McVie seems to be present singing harmonies on the choruses and one just gets a warm and fuzzy feeling from this song.
Christine McVie sits down at the grand piano for the next song, “Game of Pretend”. I remember reading the title to this song when the track list was first published and thinking this would be one of her “Little Lies”/”Heart of Stone”/”Liar” moments where she’d be the woman scorned, out for a melodic revenge. It’s actually a “Songbird” moment where her golden voice blends beautifully with the piano and Buckingham’s acoustic guitar. The song is by no means spectacular or revolutionary but, again, it doesn’t need to be. It’s a heartwarming, genuine and quiet moment that fits perfectly into this collection of songs.
The most Fleetwood Mac moment is, arguably, “On With The Show”. It was the name of the 2014/2015 tour that marked the return of Christine McVie into the fold. It was also a line on his “Extended Play” song, “Miss Fantasy”. Here, there’s a great balance between acoustic piano and guitar and Fleetwood/McVie are in their classic Mac groove. “I will stand with my band!” proclaims Buckingham. His vocal here is gorgeous. We always talk about Buckingham’s guitar skills but, what a great vocalist. Here, he uses none of the vocal effects he’s arguably too fond of. It’s a very natural vocal. The song’s essentially a band anthem and the repetition of “let’s get on” feels like a mantra of sorts. Let’s get on with the show, yes, but let’s also get on with our lives, our goals and our dreams. It’s a surprisingly affecting song and one that sounds entirely heartfelt. Hate to say it but, it sure would have been sweet to have those classic three-part harmonies here of Buckingham, McVie AND Nicks. The song also featured a signature Buckingham riff that recalls both his work on 1982’s “Mirage” and 1992’s “Out of the Cradle”. I just came back from a run listening to the album in its entirety and, trust me, this chorus will play in your brain, in a loop, non-stop.
The album ends with another highlight, McVie’s “Carnival Begin”. Buckingham’s production and arrangement approach is all over this track. It recalls his classic “I’m So Afraid” and John McVie and Mick Fleetwood provide the perfect rhythm section bed for the song to lay on. Probably Christine McVie’s most beautiful and heartfelt vocal of the album. “I want it all…” she sings on the chorus and we believe her. Buckingham’s guitar is there to reply to her vocals here and there and then he goes into full guitar god solo mode for the fade out. It’s a classic, typical way to end a Fleetwood Mac album.
Oh wait, this is NOT a Fleetwood Mac album. Except it is in everything but name. Is it as good as “Rumours” or “Tusk”? Sadly, it isn’t. Is it better than “Mirage” and “Tango in the Night”, their two classic 80s albums? I would say it’s at a par. No matter how you feel about Stevie Nicks, her songs are missed here. Oddly enough, this all feels a little too much like a love fest. I’m missing the angst and conflict that Nicks brought and that Buckingham usually always brings. The last full-length, nearly-15-year-old Fleetwood Mac album, “Say You Will”, was such an absolute masterpiece, albeit a little long at 18 tracks, this feels a little too short, 10 tracks, and a little too light.
As with all of Buckingham’s work, it will be interesting to see/hear how the songs translate to the stage. The duo of Buckingham/McVie is hitting the road for 20 or so shows this summer and my fingers are crossed for a live Cd/Dvd/BluRay. The chemistry between these two great songwriters is obvious and has been on display so many times over the years, it’s great that they’re still at it. Also, there’s still hope for a full-on Fleetwood Mac album including Stevie Nicks. With this band, with these 5 people – nothing’s impossible. Now, on with the show…
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button-lip
06-07-2017, 10:45 PM
This article is too much fun!
Sadly, Nicks opted out in order to concentrate on touring and promoting her most recent, critically-acclaimed album, “24 Karat Gold”. She says “no one buys music anymore” and this music lover couldn’t be more discouraged at her defeatist attitude in this regard. But, perhaps it’s the never-ending tension between her and ex-lover and visionary Buckingham that made her walk away.
People actually believe Lindsey was the reason Stevie didn't want to make another album? I still can't process the fact that after 50 years they can still make each other so miserable.
Oh wait, this is NOT a Fleetwood Mac album. Except it is in everything but name. Is it as good as “Rumours” or “Tusk”? Sadly, it isn’t. Is it better than “Mirage” and “Tango in the Night”, their two classic 80s albums? I would say it’s at a par. No matter how you feel about Stevie Nicks, her songs are missed here. Oddly enough, this all feels a little too much like a love fest. I’m missing the angst and conflict that Nicks brought and that Buckingham usually always brings. The last full-length, nearly-15-year-old Fleetwood Mac album, “Say You Will”, was such an absolute masterpiece, albeit a little long at 18 tracks, this feels a little too short, 10 tracks, and a little too light.
A love fest indeed. Without La Nicks. :woohoo:
HomerMcvie
06-07-2017, 11:54 PM
[QUOTE=elle;1210947]because they are better than FM albums. :shrug:
another review -
http://rreverb.com/lindsey-buckingham-christine-mcvie/
The last full-length, nearly-15-year-old Fleetwood Mac album, “Say You Will”, was such an absolute masterpiece, albeit a little long at 18 tracks, this feels a little too short, 10 tracks, and a little too light.[/QUOT
Oh Moses smell the roses!
I may agree with the 10 tracks comment, but I can't take anything seriously from a guy who calls SYW an absolute masterpiece. Absolute dud? I could get behind a comment like that. Because it blows.
button-lip
06-08-2017, 06:04 AM
[QUOTE=elle;1210947]because they are better than FM albums. :shrug:
another review -
http://rreverb.com/lindsey-buckingham-christine-mcvie/
The last full-length, nearly-15-year-old Fleetwood Mac album, “Say You Will”, was such an absolute masterpiece, albeit a little long at 18 tracks, this feels a little too short, 10 tracks, and a little too light.[/QUOT
Oh Moses smell the roses!
I may agree with the 10 tracks comment, but I can't take anything seriously from a guy who calls SYW an absolute masterpiece. Absolute dud? I could get behind a comment like that. Because it blows.
According to this guy every FM and/or Lindsey's album was a masterpiece. :lol:
bwboy
06-08-2017, 06:07 AM
So nice to get such a detailed review... and from a genuine Fleetwood Mac fan who knows his stuff! I agree 100% that they made a huge mistake saying this was a duets album when you can only hear them together on a few songs. Lindsey and Christine should have worked more together, that's what the fans want. Maybe they will do that in the future, whether it's a final FM album or as a duo.
lbfan
06-08-2017, 10:20 AM
Review: Lindsey Buckingham and Christine McVie's Strange, Surprising Collaboration
Our take on the unexpected full-length team-up between the two Fleetwood Mac songwriters
Lindsey Buckingham and Christine McVie of Fleetwood Mac are teaming for their first collabo LP.
By Rob Sheffield
Well, here's an album nobody thought would happen – the first-ever collabo from Lindsey Buckingham and Christine McVie. It's full of surprises, considering we've all spent years already listening in on both their private worlds. But these two Fleetwood Mac legends have their own kinky chemistry. When McVie jumped back in the game for the Mac's last tour, the songbird regained her hunger to write. And Buckingham remains one of the all-time great rock & roll crackpots, from his obsessively precise guitar to his seething vocals. They bring out something impressively nasty in each other, trading off songs in the mode of 1982's*Mirage*– California sunshine on the surface, but with a heart of darkness.
So we've made it to the second paragraph of this review without mentioning any other members of Fleetwood Mac. That's an achievement, right? We should feel good about that. So now let's discuss how weird it feels that a certain pair of platform boots was not twirling on the studio floor while this album was being made. Stevie Nicks is the unspoken presence on this album, the lightning you can hear not striking. There's something strange about hearing Lindsey and Christine team up without her, but that just enhances the album's strange impact. This would have been the next Mac album, except Stevie didn't want in. It sounds like that might have fired up her Mac-mates' competitive edge – but for whatever reason, these are the toughest songs Buckingham or McVie have sung in years.
"In My World" is the treasure here – Lindsey digs into his favorite topic, demented love, murmuring a thorny melody and reprising the male/female sex grunts from "Big Love." In gems like "Sleeping Around the Corner" and the finger-picking "Love Is Here to Stay," he's on top of his game, with all the negative mojo he displayed in Tusk*or his solo classic Go Insane. McVie is usually the optimistic one, but she seizes the opportunity to go dark in "Red Sun." And what a rhythm section – Mick Fleetwood and John McVie, cooking up the instantly recognizable groove no other band has found a way to duplicate. Everything about this album is a little off-kilter, right down to the way the title echoes the pre-Mac Buckingham Nicks. But if this had turned out to be a proper Fleetwood Mac reunion album, that would've felt like a happy ending – and who wants happy endings from these guys? Instead, it's another memorable chapter in rock's longest-running soap opera, with both Lindsey and Christine thriving on the dysfunctional vibes.
tango87
06-08-2017, 12:51 PM
if this had turned out to be a proper Fleetwood Mac reunion album, that would've felt like a happy ending – and who wants happy endings from these guys? Instead, it's another memorable chapter in rock's longest-running soap opera, with both Lindsey and Christine thriving on the dysfunctional vibes.
This gave me a strong pang: Me! I want a happy ending from these guys!
He's right, of course - the strife and turmoil that has driven Fleetwood Mac is one of the things that drags us along with them, and keeps us hoping that everything will be all right in the end. I want them to have a glorious reunion, and to leave us with the perfect, ultimate Mac album.
It's so frustrating, reading all these great reviews, none of which are able to call this the Fleetwood Mac record that we all know it really is.
aleuzzi
06-08-2017, 06:29 PM
Review: Lindsey Buckingham and Christine McVie's Strange, Surprising Collaboration
Our take on the unexpected full-length team-up between the two Fleetwood Mac songwriters
Lindsey Buckingham and Christine McVie of Fleetwood Mac are teaming for their first collabo LP.
By Rob Sheffield
Well, here's an album nobody thought would happen – the first-ever collabo from Lindsey Buckingham and Christine McVie. It's full of surprises, considering we've all spent years already listening in on both their private worlds. But these two Fleetwood Mac legends have their own kinky chemistry. When McVie jumped back in the game for the Mac's last tour, the songbird regained her hunger to write. And Buckingham remains one of the all-time great rock & roll crackpots, from his obsessively precise guitar to his seething vocals. They bring out something impressively nasty in each other, trading off songs in the mode of 1982's*Mirage*– California sunshine on the surface, but with a heart of darkness.
So we've made it to the second paragraph of this review without mentioning any other members of Fleetwood Mac. That's an achievement, right? We should feel good about that. So now let's discuss how weird it feels that a certain pair of platform boots was not twirling on the studio floor while this album was being made. Stevie Nicks is the unspoken presence on this album, the lightning you can hear not striking. There's something strange about hearing Lindsey and Christine team up without her, but that just enhances the album's strange impact. This would have been the next Mac album, except Stevie didn't want in. It sounds like that might have fired up her Mac-mates' competitive edge – but for whatever reason, these are the toughest songs Buckingham or McVie have sung in years.
"In My World" is the treasure here – Lindsey digs into his favorite topic, demented love, murmuring a thorny melody and reprising the male/female sex grunts from "Big Love." In gems like "Sleeping Around the Corner" and the finger-picking "Love Is Here to Stay," he's on top of his game, with all the negative mojo he displayed in Tusk*or his solo classic Go Insane. McVie is usually the optimistic one, but she seizes the opportunity to go dark in "Red Sun." And what a rhythm section – Mick Fleetwood and John McVie, cooking up the instantly recognizable groove no other band has found a way to duplicate. Everything about this album is a little off-kilter, right down to the way the title echoes the pre-Mac Buckingham Nicks. But if this had turned out to be a proper Fleetwood Mac reunion album, that would've felt like a happy ending – and who wants happy endings from these guys? Instead, it's another memorable chapter in rock's longest-running soap opera, with both Lindsey and Christine thriving on the dysfunctional vibes.
Oh, good--I'm not the only one who first saw 4/5 stars. RS changed it to 3.5. Why?
Oh, good--I'm not the only one who first saw 4/5 stars. RS changed it to 3.5. Why?
i saw 4 out of 5 too this morning. funny! it really doesn't desrve 5 stars imo but i was happy for them to see 4/5.
and, guardian peeps clearly don't like the album or LB much ;) -
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2017/jun/08/lindsey-buckingham-and-christine-mcvie-review-divided-we-stand?CMP=twt_a-culture_b-gdnculture
Lindsey Buckingham and Christine McVie review – divided we stand
2 / 5 stars
(East West Records)
Weary, but moments of brightness shine through … Lindsey Buckingham and Christine McVie.
Thursday 8 June 2017 16.30 EDT Last modified on Thursday 8 June 2017 19.19 EDT
Behold the new Fleetwood Mac album, or at least it was meant to be, before the band tumbled apart after their 2014-2015 reunion gigs (Stevie Nicks floated off diaphanously to tour solo with the Pretenders; Mick Fleetwood and John McVie, however, take part). Oddly, it begins with a 2011 Buckingham album track, Sleeping Around the Corner, him croaking about a girl like he’s reaching for the Benylin, before a cheap synthesiser bass line parps in. Then there’s On With the Show, a spirited ode to late-career music-making: “I am making a sound / I am too proud to drown … There’s no way to go / But on down the road.” This weary mood persists, but some moments shine through: Red Sun and Lay Down for Free have the Mac’s trademark melodic gleam, and McVie sounds great, especially on the wispy, heat-weathered finale, Carnival Begin. The PhotoShopped album cover says it all, though, him glum, her smiling: this sounds like togetherness put on, not poured out.
button-lip
06-08-2017, 06:56 PM
I found an 8/10 from UK. :blob1:
http://thezreview.com/2017/06/08/review-lindsey-buckingham-christine-mcvie/
Review: Lindsey Buckingham / Christine McVie
By P. C. DETTMANN on June 8, 2017
When we first heard about popular music’s most unlikely collaboration album, it is true that we fell off our chair. But that was months ago. It is actually happening, and is out tomorrow. What we can say is that, after 40 plus years in the business, 4 out of 5 members of the Rumo(u)rs-era Fleetwood Mac have successfully recreated themselves yet again.
The only person not involved, Stevie Nicks, has jabbed a few elbows out in recent interviews. Quotes such as “what’s their, like, narrative?” puzzled us. She has vowed never to do another Mac studio album as there’s “no point spending a year on music that nobody will listen to.”
Well, if you think like that…
Whether anyone listens to this or not, it is not a Fleetwood Mac album at all. Which is what we had assumed they were giving us. Some people even said as much: The Mac Without Nicks was basically what we expected. Nor is this just a Lindsey album plus Christine McVie. No sir.
We were nonplussed by the first single, called, In My World. It seemed a tame offering, and basically a Lindsey song. The rest of the album is far, far, better, and somewhat new in sound. Even though John and Mick can be clearly heard in the background, this is completely new. Strangely, In My World is the track Rolling Stone prefers. We disagree.
The only non-Mac personnel are Mitchell Froom on keys, and long-time Buckingham producer/collaborator Mark Needham. It is a Mac album in staff if not in sound. And true, Sleeping Around The Corner has been seen before on a prior Buckingham album. But everything still feels new and sharp.
It has been pushed as a duet album, and that is accurate. But this is not the model of Fleetwood Mac, which basically has each songwriter singing their own songs with the rest on backing. These are proper duets, in the main. Red Sun and Feel About You stood out particularly to us as being quite poppy and fresh.
The album is unlikely to shift huge numbers, but it is very enjoyable, and essential listening for true fans. The supporting US tour will likely do very well, even if we are not likely to see this material live in the UK any time soon.
8.0/10.0
Enjoyable
The album is unlikely to shift huge numbers, but it is essential listening for true fans
https://humanizingthevacuum.wordpress.com/2017/06/13/so-cool-calm-collected-lindsey-buckingham-and-christine-mcvie/
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So cool, calm, collected: Lindsey Buckingham and Christine McVie
Posted on June 13, 2017 by humanizingthevacuum
Lindsey Buckingham/Christine McVie – Lindsey Buckingham/Christine McVie
The pair has written songs before: the simmering little jam called “World Turning” on Lindsey Buckingham and Stevie Nicks’ first record with Fleetwood Mac in 1975; the opalescent “Mystified” and “Isn’t It Mystified” on Tango in the Night, the latter a fascinating mixture of bemusement and power chord riffage; and two parts of that album’s “You and I,” with the first marooned on a B-side because to my ears its glistening snake-in-the-tall-grass atmosphere upset Tango’s already bestirred surface.
On this, their first official collaboration, Buckingham and Christine McVie sound like survivors of a civil war, the fighting of which consumed years of blood and treasure. If the album is often so mild that it dissolves, give the credit to its makers, whose bones can barely support what’s left of their skins. But they still have nerves. Intimations of a life spent in pursuit of passion, of being subject and object, distinguish “Carnival Begin.” When McVie sings, “I want it all!” in the chorus, it’s startling to hear a woman over seventy making putative pop music sharing her needs. On the collaboration “Feel About You,” the playful-Muppet backup vocals with which 1987’s “Everywhere” ended complement a Buckingham guitar line that’s the aural equivalent of what McVie calls “honey in my tea” (he plays a similar beaut on “On With the Show,” where his instrument rings like a dinner bell). Their band’s rhythm section plays on most of the tracks. Was there ever a more aptly named drummer? Fleet, solid as wood. “Red Sun” could be a latter-day Mac track had Stevie Nicks contributed her emulsifying harmonies.
A habitual donor of tracks intended for mysterious solo albums, Buckingham’s best is “Love Is Here to Stay,” another triumph for his endless supply of finger-picked arpeggios; if “Carnival Begin” showed a McVie still committed to the carnal, “Love Is Here to Stay” is Buckingham pledging his troth. He’s not walking thin lines or yelling about big big love anymore, and if he’s going his own way it’s home. A Buckingham celebrating domestic tranquility is disturbing in its own way.
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jbrownsjr
06-13-2017, 12:31 PM
What a honest and well-written review.
button-lip
06-13-2017, 12:49 PM
A habitual donor of tracks intended for mysterious solo albums, Buckingham’s best is “Love Is Here to Stay,” another triumph for his endless supply of finger-picked arpeggios; if “Carnival Begin” showed a McVie still committed to the carnal, “Love Is Here to Stay” is Buckingham pledging his troth. He’s not walking thin lines or yelling about big big love anymore, and if he’s going his own way it’s home. A Buckingham celebrating domestic tranquility is disturbing in its own way.
No doubt about it. A better title should have been "Love is Here to Stay... whether you like it or not" :lol:
lbfan
06-13-2017, 02:18 PM
The pair has written songs before . . . the opalescent “Mystified” and “Isn’t It Mystified” on Tango in the Night, the latter a fascinating mixture of bemusement and power chord
I assume this is a typographical error and the author meant "Isn't It Midnight"
jbrownsjr
06-13-2017, 03:10 PM
I assume this is a typographical error and the author meant "Isn't It Midnight"
Yes, and I can't believe this wasn't proofed out. That's a big mistake for such a great review. I like the review because it's honest. It doesn't flatter.
lennonfan
06-13-2017, 03:37 PM
here's a great review from Spin magazine:
http://www.spin.com/2017/06/lindsey-buckingham-christine-mcvie-album-review/
FuzzyPlum
06-13-2017, 03:47 PM
Yes, and I can't believe this wasn't proofed out.
To be fair it seems to be from a blog rather than a publication.
ViscountViktor
06-13-2017, 06:02 PM
I wouldn't hold Mystified up as an example of what they can achieve when collaborating together :distress::laugh:
jbrownsjr
06-13-2017, 06:23 PM
To be fair it seems to be from a blog rather than a publication.
Ahhhh, makes sense now!
wondergirl9847
06-13-2017, 07:42 PM
The only person not involved, Stevie Nicks, has jabbed a few elbows out in recent interviews. Quotes such as “what’s their, like, narrative?” puzzled us. She has vowed never to do another Mac studio album as there’s “no point spending a year on music that nobody will listen to.”
What the heck is that quote from Stevie taken from "what's their, like, narrative?" What the frig does that even MEAN?
Yep, nobody listening over and over and over and over to this Buckingham McVie album, least of all....ME. :rolleyes:
I just don't get her...like....narrative. :shrug:
John Run
06-13-2017, 08:04 PM
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2017/jun/11/lindsey-buckingham-christine-mcvie-observer-review
The Guardian seems to have doubled their like for the project to 4 stars.
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2017/jun/11/lindsey-buckingham-christine-mcvie-observer-review
The Guardian seems to have doubled their like for the project to 4 stars.
haha, they can't decide. here's the whole article:
Lindsey Buckingham and Christine McVie: Lindsey Buckingham/Christine McVie review – strange and beautiful
4 / 5 stars
(East West)
Reunited: Lindsey Buckingham and Christine McVie.
Damien Morris
Sunday 11 June 2017 03.00 EDT
Fleetwood Mac’s last masterpiece, Tango in the Night, relied heavily on Buckingham/McVie compositions, with the group’s third great songwriter, Stevie Nicks, generally absent. Now that McVie and Buckingham are back together in the touring Mac band for the first time since 1997, they’ve reunited in the studio for this succinct collection of gentle pop-rockers, familiar yet far more strange and beautiful than 2013’s brittle Fleetwood Mac EP. Buckingham’s spidery guitar shivers through Love Is Here to Stay and slays the solo on Carnival Begin, while McVie’s undimmed gift for melody illuminates every song.
button-lip
06-13-2017, 08:27 PM
What the heck is that quote from Stevie taken from "what's their, like, narrative?" What the frig does that even MEAN?
Yep, nobody listening over and over and over and over to this Buckingham McVie album, least of all....ME. :rolleyes:
I just don't get her...like....narrative. :shrug:
I think so far, since the album release last Friday, she was proved wrong. People still buy albums.
Maybe that's why she chose to try with a new song today. :D
http://www.musictap.net/2017/06/14/review-buckinghammcvie-lindsay-buckingham-christine-mcvie/
Review: Buckingham/McVie – Lindsey Buckingham . Christine McVie
Jun 14
By MARowe on 14 June, 2017 at 3:29 PM
Posted In: CD, Reviews
From the goofy, Animal House silliness that weaves in and out of the pop perfection of “Feel About You”, to the way that the opening number, “Sleeping Around the Corner” makes you smile when the band suddenly kicks in after a tortured vocal on the intro, Lindsey Buckingham/Christine McVie is almost everything that you could possibly want from a Fleetwood Mac album.
Which of course, it really isn’t. For a variety of reasons and speculation that you can find everywhere, Stevie Nicks sat this one out. Thankfully, in an odd parallel to her own beginnings, we get to stand back and discover her bandmates, Buckingham and McVie as a duo.
With Mick Fleetwood on drums and John McVie on bass, it is inevitable that the album draws as close Tusk, Mirage and Tango as it does. But in a way that could only make sense in the Fleetwood Mac Universe, this is a near-perfect collaboration between two friends who happen to know the bass player and drummer from Fleetwood Mac. On paper this may look like solo albums joined at the hip, but it isn’t.
Lindsey Buckingham/Christine McVie plays out across 39 minutes with a clarity, a sense of openness, joy and exploration that the Mac’s last two releases 2013 Extended Play and 2003’s Say You Will never really were able to reach.
Freed of the weight and responsibility of the big machine (as Lindsey likes to describe Fleetwood Mac when he is doing his solo work), the album sounds like the people who made this were having fun. And lots of it.
It’s not perfect. As a recording led by two writers that the world loves to hear sing, it could use a bit more of the duo’s harmonies on a few of the tracks. But like the Rolling Stones recent success with Blue and Lonesome, the album is a surprisingly full work by a veteran artist that makes you want to come back.
Each of those two albums reminds you why you loved the bands in the first place. The albums are not only reaffirmation of why Lindsey and Christine or Mick and Keith, started making records so long ago, it is a demonstration of how far they have grown over the years. Each release is proof of just how good they have all become.
Like Blue and Lonesome, Lindsey Buckingham/Christine McVie entertains the hell out of you, but it challenges you as well. The chorus to “In My World” may be catchy as all get out, but the song features a dream of wistfulness and understanding that the man in his twenties who joined Fleetwood Mac in 1975 would have never thought of.
Red Sun lives in the same neighborhood as “Hold Me” does. But it lacks the shimmer and shine that wrapped the classic from Mirage in radio-perfect sunshine and warm sand dunes. And it is all the better for it. The song, a co-write between Buckingham and McVie, slips along on the strength of what was left out of its production.
Which is one of the unspoken strengths of this release, what was left out of each song. Go back and grab Say You Will. Listen to “Murrow’s Turning Over in His Grave”, “Illuminati” or any number of cuts from that release. Those were some packed, packed songs. The songs on Lindsey Buckingham/Christine McVie are filled with air, unburdened by excessive production. Each writer seems fueled by the absence of pressures created by operating under the banner of The Big Machine.
Still, while the front line of Fleetwood Mac may occasionally shift focus, but essence of Fleetwood Mac is always in the snap of Mick Fleetwood’s wrist on a snare and John McVie’s quiet ability to lay back and never force a single note. Their incredible consistency anchors the songwriting, despite the varied origins of each tune. Lindsey and Christine share credit on three songs while Buckingham has five as a solo write and McVie has two herself. The album is a cohesive whole that plays through from start to finish as well as their first collaboration back in 1975 ever did.
Oddly enough, the absence of Stevie has unintentionally summoned a ghost that has long walked the hallways of a Fleetwood Mac graveyard. Bob Welch held the center spot between Peter Green/Blues Mac and the arrival of the cast who created The Big Machine.
It may be hearing Christine’s voice without the expectations of Stevie popping in. Or it may be the way that Buckingham and co-producers Mitchell Froom and Mark Needham have left out any kitchen sink they thought of adding to this excursion. There is something inexplicable about this album brings it closer in spirit to what might have followed Heroes Are Hard to Find than it really does Rumours.
“Game of Pretend” is not that away far from the quiet of Bare Trees. The paranoia that opens “Carnival Begin” isn’t that far away from a UFO sighting or being hypnotized. Especially when mixed with a slow build that recalls “I’m So Afraid”.
The sequencing on this album is near perfect. Any other duo (group), would have ended with “On With the Show” by capitalizing on the song’s declaration of independence and maturity with an explosion of Buckingham guitar strangulations on a seven minute fade.
As with so much of this album, in the end, taste and restraint rule. Instead of histrionics at the end of “On With the Show”, there is a hint of the little skipping guitar line that Lindsey plays at the end of “Gypsy” overtop of a fade that leaves you smiling. Hell, the guitar line might even be an in joke, a little tweek. With the mythology of Fleetwood Mac, you never know.
You want the quick version?
Every album ever made by Fleetwood Mac went to a restaurant and started to get drunk while waiting for dinner to be served.
Eventually The Blues Albums huddled in a corner and argued over how John Mayall will be viewed in the history of the world. The Bob Welch-era Albums cornered a Warner Brothers executive and badgered them all night to remaster that era’s albums. And more than anything, to permanently destroy the cover art to Mystery To Me.
While everyone else was talking the albums Tusk and Mirage left together quietly in the same Uber pick-up! Boy were their spouses uncomfortable! The rest of us are just fine with the results.
–Mark Squirek
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