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secret love
05-27-2017, 10:40 PM
I don't know if anybody else is wondering about this, but I am.
Will Stevie comment on the new album? Or possibly even help promote it?
Now, it seems unlikely that Stevie would perform at any Buckingham McVie shows, but I think it's a distinct possibility that she will attend one or several shows as an audience member. Do you think she will?
And then there's Mick and John, will they form part of Buckingham McVie's band? If not, I think it's near certain they'll attend several shows to observe. Seems more likely than Stevie doing that anyway.
But I really hope even though she was the only one not involved in the project, she truly supports it and appreciates the music. It would be great if she gave it her endorsement.
MikeInNV
05-27-2017, 10:43 PM
I don't know if anybody else is wondering about this, but I am.
Will Stevie comment on the new album? Or possibly even help promote it?
Now, it seems unlikely that Stevie would perform at any Buckingham McVie shows, but I think it's a distinct possibility that she will attend one or several shows as an audience member. Do you think she will?
And then there's Mick and John, will they form part of Buckingham McVie's band? If not, I think it's near certain they'll attend several shows to observe. Seems more likely than Stevie doing that anyway.
But I really hope even though she was the only one not involved in the project, she truly supports it and appreciates the music. It would be great if she gave it her endorsement.
In this article she says she hasn't heard the album but expects that it's "pretty great, because why wouldn't it be?"
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/event/article-4538642/On-edge-70-Stevie-Nicks-addresses-rumours.html
HomerMcvie
05-28-2017, 01:05 AM
She won't. I have so little doubt on this. She DIDN'T want to be a part of it, so I think it would be embarrassing for her to promote it. She's busy being Stevie...you know, with unicorns, gold dust, and fairy farts.
Iamwilliame
05-28-2017, 04:42 AM
Lindsey and Christine have rarely if ever commented publicly on Stevie's work outside the band so I would be extremely surprised if she said anything about B/M.
James89
05-28-2017, 05:26 AM
Exactly. If they can't acknowledge her successful solo career then it's extremely unlikely that she'll address their album.
Macfan4life
05-28-2017, 06:15 AM
No I don't think Stevie will attend any of their shows. But I anticipate the passive/aggressive Lindsey vs Stevie drama to heat up after the Buckingham/McVie tour and the Mac goes into rehearsals for their big final tour.
Lindsey prefers new music than playing the "hits." I could see him wanting to play a song from the Buckingham/McVie album. This would put Stevie in an odd situation and has the perfect retaliation up her sleeve. Prepare to see Stand Back in the setlist. This will be her counter passive/aggressiveness to Lindsey wanting to play one of his newer songs that she was not involved with.
No I don't think Stevie will attend any of their shows. But I anticipate the passive/aggressive Lindsey vs Stevie drama to heat up after the Buckingham/McVie tour and the Mac goes into rehearsals for their big final tour.
Lindsey prefers new music than playing the "hits." I could see him wanting to play a song from the Buckingham/McVie album. This would put Stevie in an odd situation and has the perfect retaliation up her sleeve. Prepare to see Stand Back in the setlist. This will be her counter passive/aggressiveness to Lindsey wanting to play one of his newer songs that she was not involved with.
Oh I completely agree that if ANY Buckingham McVie songs ever make a Fleetwood Mac set, Stand Back will twirl itself back to the stage.
bwboy
05-28-2017, 08:32 AM
"In retaliation?" LOL! Anyone here remember Lindsey singing his solo 'hit' Go Insane on a Fleetwood Mac tour? Cuz I remember he sang it on 2 different FM tours. I always thought it so odd that Lindsey chose to sing Big Love and Go Insane back to back, since they sound like the same song.
Lindsey likes to perform new songs? Sure, who doesn't? But remember, Lindsey and Christine have said in interviews BuckVie IS NOT a FM album remember? It's NOT a FM album. John and Mick only play on some songs, but BuckVie is a duets album between Christine and Lindsey. It is NOT a FM album, so of course they won't sing songs from this album during a FM tour. Now, if they had a hit off the album, maybe they would, but all the singles have bombed so far. They can play all the BuckVie songs they want on their little tour they're doing, but when the Mac reunite for their next and supposedly final tour, they won't perform any BuckVie songs. Stand Back is different; it was a huge hit AND it appeared on the FM Chain box set. If Lindsey wants to sing one of his 2 solo hits (Trouble or Holiday Road, which I think hit the top 50) or Chrisine either of her 2 top 20 hits, I say go for it. But a BuckVie song that bombed? No thanks.
Macfan4life
05-28-2017, 10:08 AM
"In retaliation?" LOL! Anyone here remember Lindsey singing his solo 'hit' Go Insane on a Fleetwood Mac tour? Cuz I remember he sang it on 2 different FM tours. I always thought it so odd that Lindsey chose to sing Big Love and Go Insane back to back, since they sound like the same song.
Lindsey likes to perform new songs? Sure, who doesn't? But remember, Lindsey and Christine have said in interviews BuckVie IS NOT a FM album remember? It's NOT a FM album. John and Mick only play on some songs, but BuckVie is a duets album between Christine and Lindsey. It is NOT a FM album, so of course they won't sing songs from this album during a FM tour. Now, if they had a hit off the album, maybe they would, but all the singles have bombed so far. They can play all the BuckVie songs they want on their little tour they're doing, but when the Mac reunite for their next and supposedly final tour, they won't perform any BuckVie songs. Stand Back is different; it was a huge hit AND it appeared on the FM Chain box set. If Lindsey wants to sing one of his 2 solo hits (Trouble or Holiday Road, which I think hit the top 50) or Chrisine either of her 2 top 20 hits, I say go for it. But a BuckVie song that bombed? No thanks.
You are getting funnier.
Don't you think an album should be released first before you say it bombed?
Only those living in a Stevie fairy tale world believe all Fleetwood Mac musicians playing on an album is not a Fleetwood Mac album. But hey Ok ;)
Stand Back is such a hit. Maybe they should do it 2 different times in the set and then play Talk To me too or anything that made top 5 pop charts. Better yet, maybe they should only do Stevie solo material the entire set?
But back to the original thought and post. You don't acknowledge the passive/aggressive interchange between Stevie and Lindsey that has went on for decades? I suppose you are the ones that would cry during Silver Springs and say because they held hands during Landslide proves they are secretly in love ;)
C'mon now. Your hate for Fleetwood Mac should not be stronger than your love for Stevie Nicks ;)
HomerMcvie
05-28-2017, 10:23 AM
You are getting funnier.
Don't you think an album should be released first before you say it bombed?
Only those living in a Stevie fairy tale world believe all Fleetwood Mac musicians playing on an album is not a Fleetwood Mac album. But hey Ok ;)
Stand Back is such a hit. Maybe they should do it 2 different times in the set and then play Talk To me too or anything that made top 5 pop charts. Better yet, maybe they should only do Stevie solo material the entire set?
But back to the original thought and post. You don't acknowledge the passive/aggressive interchange between Stevie and Lindsey that has went on for decades? I suppose you are the ones that would cry during Silver Springs and say because they held hands during Landslide proves they are secretly in love ;)
C'mon now. Your hate for Fleetwood Mac should not be stronger than your love for Stevie Nicks ;)
god I love this post!!!!!:wavey::angel::wavey::angel::wavey:
bwboy
05-28-2017, 10:44 AM
You are getting funnier.
Don't you think an album should be released first before you say it bombed?
Only those living in a Stevie fairy tale world believe all Fleetwood Mac musicians playing on an album is not a Fleetwood Mac album. But hey Ok ;)
Stand Back is such a hit. Maybe they should do it 2 different times in the set and then play Talk To me too or anything that made top 5 pop charts. Better yet, maybe they should only do Stevie solo material the entire set?
But back to the original thought and post. You don't acknowledge the passive/aggressive interchange between Stevie and Lindsey that has went on for decades? I suppose you are the ones that would cry during Silver Springs and say because they held hands during Landslide proves they are secretly in love ;)
C'mon now. Your hate for Fleetwood Mac should not be stronger than your love for Stevie Nicks ;)
I never said the BuckVie album bombed, just the three singles that have been released.
Christine and Lindsey are the ones saying BuckVie is NOT a FM album. Months ago, when I said this clearly WAS a FM album, just without Stevie, people here were screaming it was NOT a FM album. I wish you guys would make up your mind LOL.
I don't care whether FM plays Stand Back or not. However, I would much rather hear Got a Hold On Me or Holiday Road than anything from BuckVie, that's all. I think it would be cool if the three sang one solo hit each during a FM concert.
Sure I acknowledge the phoniness/passive-aggressiveness between Stevie and Lindsey. Of course it's phony when Stevie hugs Lindsey during Landslide. What's your point? Not trying to be rude, especially since it seems we agree on this point.
jbrownsjr
05-28-2017, 12:47 PM
You are getting funnier.
Don't you think an album should be released first before you say it bombed?
Only those living in a Stevie fairy tale world believe all Fleetwood Mac musicians playing on an album is not a Fleetwood Mac album. But hey Ok ;)
Stand Back is such a hit. Maybe they should do it 2 different times in the set and then play Talk To me too or anything that made top 5 pop charts. Better yet, maybe they should only do Stevie solo material the entire set?
But back to the original thought and post. You don't acknowledge the passive/aggressive interchange between Stevie and Lindsey that has went on for decades? I suppose you are the ones that would cry during Silver Springs and say because they held hands during Landslide proves they are secretly in love ;)
C'mon now. Your hate for Fleetwood Mac should not be stronger than your love for Stevie Nicks ;)
You crack me up!!
jbrownsjr
05-28-2017, 12:58 PM
"In retaliation?" LOL! Anyone here remember Lindsey singing his solo 'hit' Go Insane on a Fleetwood Mac tour? Cuz I remember he sang it on 2 different FM tours. I always thought it so odd that Lindsey chose to sing Big Love and Go Insane back to back, since they sound like the same song.
Lindsey likes to perform new songs? Sure, who doesn't? But remember, Lindsey and Christine have said in interviews BuckVie IS NOT a FM album remember? It's NOT a FM album. John and Mick only play on some songs, but BuckVie is a duets album between Christine and Lindsey. It is NOT a FM album, so of course they won't sing songs from this album during a FM tour. Now, if they had a hit off the album, maybe they would, but all the singles have bombed so far. They can play all the BuckVie songs they want on their little tour they're doing, but when the Mac reunite for their next and supposedly final tour, they won't perform any BuckVie songs. Stand Back is different; it was a huge hit AND it appeared on the FM Chain box set. If Lindsey wants to sing one of his 2 solo hits (Trouble or Holiday Road, which I think hit the top 50) or Chrisine either of her 2 top 20 hits, I say go for it. But a BuckVie song that bombed? No thanks.
I think Trouble and Go Insane charted rather well.
Trouble reached #9 and was a number one hit in Australia.
I know that probably disappoints you because you love to pit the members against Stevie's success. But in truth, her success doesn't make her better or worse. She's more of an entertainer than a musician. Sales in music mean very little to me. I'm glad FM had success because they continue to make new music. But, I would never say Adele is better than Stevie Nicks because she sells more, or has more smash hits. I didn't even do that when I was a teenager.
bwboy
05-28-2017, 01:49 PM
I think Trouble and Go Insane charted rather well.
Trouble reached #9 and was a number one hit in Australia.
I know that probably disappoints you because you love to pit the members against Stevie's success. But in truth, her success doesn't make her better or worse. She's more of an entertainer than a musician. Sales in music mean very little to me. I'm glad FM had success because they continue to make new music. But, I would never say Adele is better than Stevie Nicks because she sells more, or has more smash hits. I didn't even do that when I was a teenager.
Feel free to point out anywhere in my post where I said such a thing. I didn't. Even when I was a teenager LOL.
I was shocked and disappointed to learn Holiday Road barely made the top 80- I still hear that song on the radio every now and again, while I don't think I've heard Go Insane on the radio since 1983! Weird.
If Lindsey sings a solo song during a FM concert, I hope he sings Trouble or Holiday Road.
Interesting you see Stevie as more of an entertainer than a musician. I see Lindsey as more of a musician than an entertainer. Doesn't mean one label is better than another, of course, but you raise a valid point I hadn't thought of before.
TheWildHeart67
05-28-2017, 02:48 PM
The fighting on this board reminds me of high school.:shrug:
The fighting on this board reminds me of high school.:shrug:
Junior school...
TheWildHeart67
05-28-2017, 03:48 PM
Junior school...
Agreed! :wavey:
Macfan4life
05-28-2017, 03:56 PM
The fighting on this board reminds me of high school.:shrug:
At times it does feel like Jr High school. I would not call it fighting though. But some of us fail and take the bait of some crazy statements. We all have different opinions that should be expressed. Unfortunately some of those opinions are wrong :) Ha ha ;) A good board should always have a lively debate though.
This reminds me of a time around 2000 when the Nicks Fix got a chat service. I cant remember the topic but I was having a discussion with someone in the room. It slowly turned into a debate and almost argument (and it was over the dumbest thing). Then it hit me and I asked the other person for their age. They told me they were 11 years old :eek: I was wasting so much energy debating with a child and I did not know it. So sometimes that is how I feel here. You really don't know the ages or experiences of those posting.
This is a board dedicated to Fleetwood Mac. We are cherishing the best moments ever. Stevie was on a long solo tour. We have a Lindsey/Christine album coming with a small tour and even the huge world tour coming. We are all so excited and have a right to be so. However when someone chimes in to say the new songs have bombed. Would you call that a troll? Its really hard to get a hit in today's music world. You can judge the music (that is what we are here for) but when you try to smear the music, don't be surprised if there is a strong rebuttal ;)
HomerMcvie
05-28-2017, 04:02 PM
He should be free to post his opinion, even if the rest of us disagree.
That said, when you make a very unpopular opinion like that, you should expect the fire that's going to come back at you.
TheWildHeart67
05-28-2017, 04:15 PM
Oh Homer. You stir the pot yourself all the time
Junior school...
Yeah, I know I said Juniors, but it's good interesting fun too...
Just keep a pinch of salt handy and a sense of humour...
HomerMcvie
05-28-2017, 05:18 PM
Oh Homer. You stir the pot yourself all the time
Who's denying that? I was defending his right to have his own opinion!
What's YOUR point?
Macfan4life
05-28-2017, 05:48 PM
Lets get this thread back on track. Its a good thread with a realistic question. I think its fair to say Lindsey will do something that will set Stevie off (like this is anything new). I just thought it would be such a passive aggressive thing to do for Lindsey to practice one of his new songs live for the big final Mac tour. And of course it would drive Stevie nuts.
But then again maybe it will be something else.
What are your thoughts? I predicted if Lindsey did this, Stevie will put Stand Back in their set. Their cold war will never end and is completely the reason Stevie did not want to do this album with him (IMHO).
TrueFaith77
05-28-2017, 05:57 PM
Lets get this thread back on track. Its a good thread with a realistic question. I think its fair to say Lindsey will do something that will set Stevie off (like this is anything new). I just thought it would be such a passive aggressive thing to do for Lindsey to practice one of his new songs live for the big final Mac tour. And of course it would drive Stevie nuts.
But then again maybe it will be something else.
What are your thoughts? I predicted if Lindsey did this, Stevie will put Stand Back in their set. Their cold war will never end and is completely the reason Stevie did not want to do this album with him (IMHO).
Stevie was very positive about Lindsey's last solo album. Unlike Mick, she didn't indicate a wish that songs had been saved for Fleetwood Mac. She said Lindsey had taken lyric pills and melody pills. So I think she will be positive here as well--especially about Christine. Anything to keep them happy doing what they are doing--without her.
bwboy
05-28-2017, 06:16 PM
Lets get this thread back on track. Its a good thread with a realistic question. I think its fair to say Lindsey will do something that will set Stevie off (like this is anything new). I just thought it would be such a passive aggressive thing to do for Lindsey to practice one of his new songs live for the big final Mac tour. And of course it would drive Stevie nuts.
But then again maybe it will be something else.
What are your thoughts? I predicted if Lindsey did this, Stevie will put Stand Back in their set. Their cold war will never end and is completely the reason Stevie did not want to do this album with him (IMHO).
How about this: I don't think the inclusion of Stand Back or Go Insane is that big a deal behind the scenes. I don't know why FM included SB on their Tango tour, but I suspect they wanted a hit song with high energy in the set. Same thing with Has Anyone Ever Written Anything For You- they wanted a ballad and for whatever reason, Stevie didn't want to sing Landslide. I was glad she sang Landslide on the Behind the Mask tour, though.
It's not necessarily retaliation... more like negotiation:)
Netter75
05-28-2017, 06:42 PM
How about this: I don't think the inclusion of Stand Back or Go Insane is that big a deal behind the scenes. I don't know why FM included SB on their Tango tour, but I suspect they wanted a hit song with high energy in the set. Same thing with Has Anyone Ever Written Anything For You- they wanted a ballad and for whatever reason, Stevie didn't want to sing Landslide. I was glad she sang Landslide on the Behind the Mask tour, though.
It's not necessarily retaliation... more like negotiation:)
I always thought it was odd that they skipped Landslide on that tour. I suspect it was only played on the earlier tours because she had a limited number of FM songs it was the only ballad she had under her belt (why she never bothered subbing it out for Storms or Beautiful Child I don't know). It was considered a deep cut prior to The Dance, so after playing HAEWAFY for the Rock A Little tour it was probably easier to just keep singing it under the imoression thag Landslide wouldn't be missed. It's also worth noting that since HAEWAFY was a semi-recent single the substitution probably didn't seem like a bad idea.
I know Tango is not their most well-regarded tour, but I aactually like the setlist (mix of hits, oldies, and deep cuts like Brown Eyes and Don't Let Me Down Again). The updated arrangement of Isn't It Midnight also kicks ass. What I do NOT approve of from that tour was the dropping of Gypsy, Sara and Rhiannon. Without those three songs Stevie's part of the set was weakened.
Side-rant aside, I get why they included Stand Back for the Tango tour but not as much for more recent ones. It's a big hit and a crowdpleaser, but she's got other high energy FM songs like Running Through the Garden and Everybody Finds Out I'd rather hear first.
Macfan4life
05-28-2017, 07:17 PM
How about this: I don't think the inclusion of Stand Back or Go Insane is that big a deal behind the scenes. I don't know why FM included SB on their Tango tour, but I suspect they wanted a hit song with high energy in the set. Same thing with Has Anyone Ever Written Anything For You- they wanted a ballad and for whatever reason, Stevie didn't want to sing Landslide. I was glad she sang Landslide on the Behind the Mask tour, though.
It's not necessarily retaliation... more like negotiation:)
There was a huge vacuum when Lindsey left especially right before a tour. The band offered to do Stevie songs and she jumped at the chance. Stand Back was a no brainer but HAWAFY was a ballad that gave all the guys a break to run back stage midway through the show and take a break. Its not they were looking for a ballad....its the songs Stevie wanted to do.
Personal note: Christine really played amazing piano on HAWAFY. Its still the best live version I ever heard. Stevie was sober and Klonopin had not turned her lights out yet.
bwboy
05-28-2017, 07:26 PM
Hey nutter75, when I think of a deep cut, I think of songs like Storms or Beautiful Child. You know, songs that weren't singles and only played live once or twice. FM played Landslide every tour but Tango, but of course it only became a hit after the Dance.
aleuzzi
05-28-2017, 08:40 PM
Back was a no brainer but HAWAFY was Personal note: Christine really played amazing piano on HAWAFY. Its still the best live version I ever heard. Stevie was sober and Klonopin had not turned her lights out yet.
I enjoyed that version of HAWAFY. But my favorite version of it is for the VH1 Storytellers special in 1998. Wow. That was a revelation.
On the upcoming tour, I'd really love it if the band dropped Landslide (they won't) and added Lady (they might). That could be a great moment between Christine and Stevie on stage.
I also wish Christine would sing something from In the Meantime, and Lindsey do a tune from one of his more recent solo albums.
vivfox
05-28-2017, 10:26 PM
Hey nutter75, when I think of a deep cut, I think of songs like Storms or Beautiful Child. You know, songs that weren't singles and only played live once or twice. FM played Landslide every tour but Tango, but of course it only became a hit after the Dance.
Landslide was known by the classic rock audiences of the 1970's. It was a song that wasn't played often on the radio, but when it was I remember people being very excited and stopping whatever they were doing to listen closely to it. Landslide was a huge hit with audiences during the White Album, Rumours and Tusk tours.
bombaysaffires
05-28-2017, 11:25 PM
Stand Back is different; it was a huge hit AND it appeared on the FM Chain box set. .
which it never, ever should have. And I'm a huge Stevie fan. Solo stuff should stay on solo records. I'm not keen on them being done live with the band either.
24karatstevie
05-28-2017, 11:32 PM
which it never, ever should have. And I'm a huge Stevie fan. Solo stuff should stay on solo records. I'm not keen on them being done live with the band either.
I don't mind a couple solo songs as long as they don't take too many slots away from full band songs. Just curious as to what your opinion is on Fleetwood Mac songs at solo concerts? I know some people wish Stevie would cut some of her Mac songs and replace them with less performed solo songs.
bombaysaffires
05-28-2017, 11:35 PM
I don't mind a couple solo songs as long as they don't take too many slots away from full band songs. Just curious as to what your opinion is on Fleetwood Mac songs at solo concerts? I know some people wish Stevie would cut some of her Mac songs and replace them with less performed solo songs.
I get why they did them in the beginnings of their solo careers.... not enough solo hits yet, and it reminded people of where they knew the performer from already (the band) because they weren't established solo artists. But over time yeah, weed out some of the FM and just do solo stuff. GDW can stay out of her solo sets forevermore as far as I'm concerned... Isn't it funny though how many of the big hits in her solo show are Lindsey arranged band songs??
Angel75
05-29-2017, 12:14 AM
which it never, ever should have. And I'm a huge Stevie fan. Solo stuff should stay on solo records. I'm not keen on them being done live with the band either.
Agreed, there is no need for solo or duet album stuff (B.N. or B.McV).
FM have so many fantastic songs, a huge catalogue to select from.....so play something you either have never or have rarely played live to mix things up = no brainer
StevieandChris
05-29-2017, 01:09 AM
Re: the fighting on this board and others like it --- I bet Mick has his team read boards like this before a new tour and then they decide how many gazillion dollars to charge for the meet and greets. He should DOUBLE it this next tour because of the crazy reactions at this duets album.:lol:
bwboy
05-29-2017, 04:39 AM
which it never, ever should have. And I'm a huge Stevie fan. Solo stuff should stay on solo records. I'm not keen on them being done live with the band either.
I'm not sure what I think... it was a solo song, true, but the performance was by the whole band. Also, wasn't a live version of Go Insane on the Very Best of FM? Having said that, that version of SB is my favorite live recording.
HomerMcvie
05-29-2017, 09:09 AM
I'm not sure what I think... it was a solo song, true, but the performance was by the whole band. Also, wasn't a live version of Go Insane on the Very Best of FM? Having said that, that version of SB is my favorite live recording.
I think in both cases, they were just looking for songs that the casual fan might not own, to encourage them to buy the new package they were peddling. Which is why Mick wouldn't give Stevie Silver Springs...Mick's a whore like that...:lol:
TrueFaith77
05-29-2017, 11:39 AM
I think in both cases, they were just looking for songs that the casual fan might not own, to encourage them to buy the new package they were peddling. Which is why Mick wouldn't give Stevie Silver Springs...Mick's a whore like that...:lol:
Yes, he paints a vulgar picture.
SameGlassTable
05-29-2017, 01:02 PM
I have a theory .
Stevie has just enough songs for a solo album and a we wil get a repackaged songs from the vault 24k .
She heard the Lindsey and Christine songs and did not like them and decided she's not going out like that
SteveMacD
05-29-2017, 01:37 PM
I think in both cases, they were just looking for songs that the casual fan might not own, to encourage them to buy the new package they were peddling. Which is why Mick wouldn't give Stevie Silver Springs...Mick's a whore like that...:lol:
WB ownes the releasing rights, not Mick. That's why it's been re-released nearly every ten years since its initial release. Mick has some input, but he couldn't just let Stevie use it.
I have a theory .
Stevie has just enough songs for a solo album and a we wil get a repackaged songs from the vault 24k .
She heard the Lindsey and Christine songs and did not like them and decided she's not going out like that
My theory is that Stevie decided that if she is going to release a farewell album with the band it should be a true band effort like their first in 1975. If she is going to release a 24k part 2 now is the time.
My theory is that Stevie decided that if she is going to release a farewell album with the band it should be a true band effort like their first in 1975. If she is going to release a 24k part 2 now is the time.
My theory is there will be one last Album with all five....
It will be a very few new songs say 2 each..even Stevie should manage that.
And then live tracks throughout the years..
No forget the new stuff......just great LIVE stuff from down the years
bombaysaffires
05-29-2017, 02:29 PM
My theory is there will be one last Album with all five....
It will be a very few new songs say 2 each..even Stevie should manage that.
And then live tracks throughout the years..
No forget the new stuff......just great LIVE stuff from down the years
I'd really really love to believe that.
But I so don't get the feeling that Stevie is onboard with that. I really, sadly, don't. WE think if we were her, we'd see things the way we all see them. But she's not us, she has her own reasons/feelings/grudges/damage from the years in the band/ with Lindsey recording/ whatever, and her point of view seems very different to ours.
So I'm not sadly holding my breath, though I would love it to be so.
HomerMcvie
05-29-2017, 10:26 PM
WB ownes the releasing rights, not Mick. That's why it's been re-released nearly every ten years since its initial release. Mick has some input, but he couldn't just let Stevie use it.
I swear I remember reading that Stevie was mad at Mick, because he told her no, concerning using it for herself.
SteveMacD
05-29-2017, 10:38 PM
I swear I remember reading that Stevie was mad at Mick, because he told her no, concerning using it for herself.
She did say that, but it wasn't up to him to let her use it. Since it had been reissued on the Back-to-Back Hits series of 45's by Warner's in 1987 (Don't Stop B-side), they had control over how the song was released, not Mick. Now, he might have refused to help her get permission from Warner's, but it was already going to be on the Fleetwood Mac box-set just a year and a half later, so why would he? That said, there was nothing preventing Stevie from rerecording it.
HomerMcvie
05-29-2017, 10:44 PM
She did say that, but it wasn't up to him to let her use it. Since it had been reissued on the Back-to-Back Hits series of 45's by Warner's in 1987 (Don't Stop B-side), they had control over how the song was released, not Mick. Now, he might have refused to help her get permission from Warner's, but it was already going to be on the Fleetwood Mac box-set just a year and a half later, so why would he? That said, there was nothing preventing Stevie from rerecording it.
Well I thought the logic was, yes, that he wanted it for The Chain boxed set, thus explaining him telling her no.
But apparently, she's dumber than I, concerning these things...that's what you're saying, right? :p
SteveMacD
05-29-2017, 10:52 PM
Well I thought the logic was, yes, that he wanted it for The Chain boxed set, thus explaining him telling her no.
But apparently, she's dumber than I, concerning these things...that's what you're saying, right? :p
Apparently. From what Bob Pollard has told me, the right to release an album/song goes back to the artist if it goes out of print for ten years.
HomerMcvie
05-29-2017, 11:41 PM
Apparently. From what Bob Pollard has told me, the right to release an album/song goes back to the artist if it goes out of print for ten years.
Wonder what that means concerning the Bob Welch years? HAVE they been in print? Do things like Rhino count, or does it have to be the original record company?
secondhandchain
05-30-2017, 01:34 AM
I have a theory .
Stevie has just enough songs for a solo album and a we wil get a repackaged songs from the vault 24k .
She heard the Lindsey and Christine songs and did not like them and decided she's not going out like that
From what i've heard and I've heard enough of this new album minus Lay down for free (which has been called "terrific" by one reviewer) and Game of Pretend (probably the albums only clunker) this is not the case. She doesn't want to work with Lindsey, and prefers being in front of an adoring crowd then in a studio for months. Plus she really likes the cash as evidenced by her statements. That's the real story.
SteveMacD
05-30-2017, 08:52 PM
Wonder what that means concerning the Bob Welch years? HAVE they been in print? Do things like Rhino count, or does it have to be the original record company?
I don't know if the Welch years are still in print. Rhino is owned by Warner's, so it probably counts for Fleetwood Mac, however, they license material, too. I was always perplexed at how Wendy was more concerned about getting Bob into the HoF, but seemed unconcerned about his music being available.
aleuzzi
05-30-2017, 11:13 PM
I have a theory .
Stevie has just enough songs for a solo album and a we wil get a repackaged songs from the vault 24k .
She heard the Lindsey and Christine songs and did not like them and decided she's not going out like that
You already got a good answer from secondhandchain. However, I'd like to add that when questioned about the record, Stevie also mentioned that it would be great because "Christine is on fire"-- or something close to that. She may be over working with Lindsey, and possibly even the rest of the band, but she still has a huge respect for the quality of the music LB and CM make.
Btw: love your screen name. Imperial Hotel is one of my favs.
HomerMcvie
05-31-2017, 12:48 AM
I don't know if the Welch years are still in print. Rhino is owned by Warner's, so it probably counts for Fleetwood Mac, however, they license material, too. I was always perplexed at how Wendy was more concerned about getting Bob into the HoF, but seemed unconcerned about his music being available.
Wendy was pretty myopic in her vision of Bob's legacy(probably a direct correlation to his own). The HOF snub was the one that neither seemed to be able to get past. While I agree that it was wrong, it seems sad from both sides now, now that they're both gone. He truly deserved more than that from the band.
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