Making of Buckingham Mcvie

[AlexD]

https://youtu.be/WxVsqngf9yE

[aleuzzi]

Thank you, AlexD!

This is bloody fantastic! Carnival Begin and Red Sun are great songs and they're so well sung. Christine's vocal on Red Sun is classic Christine.

And I'm glad to see through the footage that Christine is singing on a number of Lindsey songs, including Sleeping Around the Corner, where she takes the falsetto (which I thought was LB when I first heard it).

[MikeVielhaber]

Thank you, AlexD!

This is bloody fantastic! Carnival Begin and Red Sun are great songs and they're so well sung. Christine's vocal on Red Sun is classic Christine.

And I'm glad to see through the footage that Christine is singing on a number of Lindsey songs, including Sleeping Around the Corner, where she takes the falsetto (which I thought was LB when I first heard it).

I think some of it seemed staged though. So I'm not sure how it accurately reflects what's on the record. Though they didn't show her in the brief "In My World" segment.

[aleuzzi]

I think some of it seemed staged though. So I'm not sure how it accurately reflects what's on the record. Though they didn't show her in the brief "In My World" segment.

Oh, much of the performances are staged. But she's clearly on a couple of his other songs, especially Too Far Gone.

[button-lip]

So glad to see they're collaborating on each other's songs! 15 more days! :blob1:

[AlexD]

They both seem really happy to me which is cool

[lennonfan]

this is gonna be sooooo great!!!!

[button-lip]

"Bye. Merry Christmas, I love youuuuuuu! This will be an amazing year coming up. It's gonna be incredible." Awwww! :)

They seem so relaxed and happy! :blob1:

I'm already loving Too Far Gone and Red Sun.

I love Christine's shirts and handwriting. :)


Lindsey's love for music is contagious. He seems so happy. The man can't stop jumping! :blob1: :blob1:

[jbrownsjr]

Wow!!! Carnival Begin is amazing!!! Holy cow, that touched me.

[aleuzzi]

Wow!!! Carnival Begin is amazing!!! Holy cow, that touched me.

Amen to that! And they didn't spare on the production. It's classic Mac--esp with that organ.

[FuzzyPlum]

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW
What a great surprise to come home from work to.
Red Sun sounds amazing- should have been THE out and out single.
Carnival Begin also sounds great.
This clip has restored my faith in this album. I was starting to question it a bit but now when you see them singing the songs together it seems to all start hanging together as an album.
My one disappointment is the recycling of the You and I Part 2 riff on On With The Show.

[FuzzyPlum]

I think some of it seemed staged though.


and I still cant buy the 'Organic duet album, we immediately thought of John and Mick' blah blah blah

[TrueFaith77]

and I still cant buy the 'Organic duet album, we immediately thought of John and Mick' blah blah blah

THAT was hilarious.

This is a Fleetwood Mac album -- and EVERYBODY knows it!

Wow!!! Carnival Begin is amazing!!! Holy cow, that touched me.

Yes. So beautiful. I can hardly fathom having lived life without it.

AND I'M SURE CHRISTINE FEELS THE SAME WAY.

"Bye. Merry Christmas, I love youuuuuuu! This will be an amazing year coming up. It's gonna be incredible." Awwww! :)


"Stay in touch!" - that should have been the title of the album (or On With The Show, but we know whose fault THAT is).

All the songs sound great (even Too Far Gone).

I LITERALLY CAN'T WAIT OR FOCUS ON ANYTHING ELSE RIGHT NOW

[Frankenstein]

Fantastic.

I love this collaboration to bits.

[button-lip]

This clip has restored my faith in this album. I was starting to question it a bit but now when you see them singing the songs together it seems to all start hanging together as an album.
My one disappointment is the recycling of the You and I Part 2 riff on On With The Show.

Same here. I wasn't questioning it, but after watching this clip I'm more excited then ever! And even if I ended up not liking it (which I doubt) I'm happy to see they seemed to enjoy doing it so much! :)

[button-lip]

"Stay in touch!" - that should have been the title of the album (or On With The Show, but we know whose fault THAT is).

So glad to see life can go on without her. :)

[jbrownsjr]

I can hear Christine on SATC.. So whether staged or not, she's on there.

[TrueFaith77]

So glad to see life can go on without her. :)

:lol:

oh yeah they DEFINITELY should have titled the album On With the Show

But again, I mourn, because we've really missed out on what I'm sure would have been three or more great contributions by Stevie.

Yet... on with the show ...

Carnival: BEGIN!

[jbrownsjr]

:lol:

oh yeah they DEFINITELY should have titled the album On With the Show

But again, I mourn, because we've really missed out on what I'm sure would have been three or more great contributions by Stevie.

Yet... on with the show ...

Carnival: BEGIN!

I'll probably get beat on for saying this. But, I think Stevie would have added to the project. Mirage without her songs would have been strange. I'm not mad at her anymore. I still think she's an egomaniac, but I'm glad she had a great tour and is doing her own thing.

Having said that, the chemistry between LB AND CM .. just wow!!

[button-lip]

:lol:

oh yeah they DEFINITELY should have titled the album On With the Show

But again, I mourn, because we've really missed out on what I'm sure would have been three or more great contributions by Stevie.

Yet... on with the show ...

Carnival: BEGIN!

Everybody was welcomed to participate . You can clearly see it. And although some of it could've been staged, I don't see a troubled work environment. Everybody seem to enjoy it. So, I still don't understand her decision but at this point and after seeing and listening to what the final product has become, I don't care about her anymore.

[button-lip]

I'll probably get beat on for saying this. But, I think Stevie would have added to the project. Mirage without her songs would have been strange. I'm not mad at her anymore. I still think she's an egomaniac, but I'm glad she had a great tour and is doing her own thing.

Having said that, the chemistry between LB AND CM .. just wow!!

Of course she could have added something but she didn't want to. That's the thing. I was never mad, I was always disappointed. Even though I sometimes look mad, it's just my way of expressing how sad her decision made me feel.

Yes! OMG! They have amazing chemistry! "I love youuuuuu!" :lol: :lol:

[TrueFaith77]

Everybody was welcomed to participate . You can clearly see it. And although some of it could've been staged, I don't see a troubled work environment. Everybody seem to enjoy it. So, I still don't understand her decision but at this point and after seeing and listening to what the final product has become, I don't care about her anymore.

There was a point early on in the clip that I thought EXACTLY the same thing.

That said, yes, this certainly has the potential to be a masterpiece on its own terms.

So, I think the conclusion is: She didn't rob US. She robbed herself. And that's sad. THAT'S what Lindsey and Christine are so glad they didn't do with themselves, their chemistry, their love, their legacy, their art.

[nicepace]

I am so happy to see the harmonious spirit between Lindsey and Christine. It is clear that Lindsey and Christine get along, they have similar musical ideas, they like one another, there was a positive feeling in the studio, and they have recorded a musical gem. I'm very glad they recorded this without Stevie. Even if Stevie had contributed two or three good songs, I seriously doubt that they would have been as good as what Lindsey & Chris have come up with, and her presence in the studio would probably have been disruptive. Hearing the wonderful harmonies that Chris & Lindsey sing on many of these songs, I don't think that adding Stevie's voice to the mix would have been helpful.

My only quibble is that Christine made it sound as if she spent 16 years in the country doing nothing. She did record one top notch album during those years, In the Meantime. Oh, and where was John? It was nice to see a few clips of Mick, but John was nowhere to be seen. Lindsey's comment makes it clear that John plays on the album, so maybe he just didn't want to bother with being involved with this preview film.

[FuzzyPlum]

Lindsey's comment makes it clear that John plays on the album, so maybe he just didn't want to bother with being involved with this preview film.


There were the briefest of clips of him at around 3.08 and then at 3.18. Otherwise its not exactly Johns thing to be on film. Its not as if Mick is featured much either.

[TrueFaith77]

Oh, and where was John? It was nice to see a few clips of Mick, but John was nowhere to be seen. Lindsey's comment makes it clear that John plays on the album, so maybe he just didn't want to bother with being involved with this preview film.

I look forward to getting the hard copy cd to find out who played on what.

[FuzzyPlum]

16.39 She has good, toned arms for an old girl.

[GypsySorcerer]

Oh, I love them so much. And it's great to hear Lindsey speaking with such a high regard for Christine. The other new songs sound great, which is reassuring. :thumbsup:

[tango87]

It's like a happy 'Destiny Rules'!

So lovely to see this, and the songs just sound great. Lots of classic Mac moments in there.

When they were talking towards the end about how it feels like she'd never been away, it did make me feel rather mournful about what they might have produced in those 'lost' years. But then, that's Fleetwood Mac for you - they always leave you wanting more...

[GypsySorcerer]

Having said that, the chemistry between LB AND CM .. just wow!!

Yes. He adores her, and vice versa. I have always believed, without question, Christine is the heart of this band.

[TrueFaith77]

It's like a happy 'Destiny Rules'!

Genius!

When they were talking towards the end about how it feels like she'd never been away, it did make me feel rather mournful about what they might have produced in those 'lost' years. But then, that's Fleetwood Mac for you - they always leave you wanting more...

That is the source of my obsession.

Similar to when I collected every single bit of music ever recorded by Billy Mackenzie--and proudly displayed it all on my fireplace mantel. RIP

[tango87]

Genius!



That is the source of my obsession.

Similar to when I collected every single bit of music ever recorded by Billy Mackenzie--and proudly displayed it all on my fireplace mantel. RIP

Yes - I suppose it just makes us treasure those moments even more, however few and far between they are! Scouring YouTube for obscure clips, incredibly grateful when something like the US Festival footage finally emerges... Obsession is definitely the word!

[button-lip]

Yes. He adores her, and vice versa. I have always believed, without question, Christine is the heart of this band.

At 15:50 Lindsey looks at Christine as if he's rediscovering her. So sweet! :)

Lindsey is in need of lots and lost of desperate hugs. Can I give him one? :cool:

[jbrownsjr]

Yes. He adores her, and vice versa. I have always believed, without question, Christine is the heart of this band.


I got tears watching this. I've always known how much they loved each other, but, it's never been show as much as right here in this youtube.

[AnthonyMI]

Yup. A Happy Destiny Rules. Seems like Lindsey is perfectly willing to work with someone else and write. Stevie co-wrote someone else on In your Dreams. The fact those two can't write together or trust each other with their music is telling of one or both of their inability to MOVE ON and create. Sad it came to this, they were better together and the sum of their parts then individually or even two at a time. Sad that Mirage is the last time they created together. :(


Iis Carnival Begin the first time Christine has played a Hammond B3 organ in an album since Tusk or Rumours? Seems like it has the potential to be the most WhiteBum/Rumours sounding track since... well... Rumours. Excellent!!

[button-lip]

Yup. A Happy Destiny Rules. Seems like Lindsey is perfectly willing to work with someone else and write. Stevie co-wrote someone else on In your Dreams. The fact those two can't write together or trust each other with their music is telling of one or both of their inability to MOVE ON and create. Sad it came to this, they were better together and the sum of their parts then individually or even two at a time. Sad that Mirage is the last time they created together. :(

Most importantly, it was proved in this video it's not impossible to work with Lindsey. He wanted Stevie on board. She didn't want to work with him. I think he proved he moved on.

[jbrownsjr]

I was going to say.. and tango beat me to it...

If you notice the difference in Lindsey's behavior in DR vs. Making of BuckVie. It's unreal. I feel like Christine gives him a sense of validity and growth.

He tried soooooo hard in DR. He wanted to make his art so badly, he was willing to pay his own money for it.

[aleuzzi]

I was going to say.. and tango beat me to it...

If you notice the difference in Lindsey's behavior in DR vs. Making of BuckVie. It's unreal. I feel like Christine gives him a sense of validity and growth.

He tried soooooo hard in DR. He wanted to make his art so badly, he was willing to pay his own money for it.

Absolutely. Now, mind you, if Stevie were present, this new project could have been downright explosive (in a good way, partially because it would be also in a bad way). Still, I don't miss her when watching this. I see two singer-songwriters-musicians digging each other's work and very respectfully and happily working toward a common goal. Effing brilliant!

[tango87]

There's so much to love in this little film. Real affection and mutual admiration between the two of them. Seeing John at work - how wonderful.

'Red Sun' sounds great - it reminds me of Christine's classic storytelling songs, like 'Temporary One', in particular.

It feels very poignant, too. Christine seems so excited to be back there, to have been given another chance, that I just want it to go on forever for her. I want it to be a new beginning for them, but I wonder if it is?

[lennonfan]

I feel this album brings back what's been lost in Fleetwood Mac since 1975....a sense of being happy together! Now sure Rumours and Tusk were brilliant but they were also a bit discombobulated from the internal tension. Finally, a happy Mac again:)

[bombaysaffires]

Most importantly, it was proved in this video it's not impossible to work with Lindsey. He wanted Stevie on board. She didn't want to work with him. I think he proved he moved on.

"Once you said goodbye to me,
Now I say goodbye to you"

[louielouie2000]

It's interesting- judging by the title alone, I've been absolutely dreading hearing Carnival Begin. But here it is- by far the most alluring and classically Fleetwood Mac song we've heard since perhaps Destiny Rules. I'm really looking forward to hearing this album in its entirety now. I'd become quite anxious, given the poppy nature of the first few songs.

[Macfan4life]

Just amazing! Thanks for posting and sharing.
Just curious though. I have one question to ask.

What would Bob Dylan think about all of this?
:eek:

[bombaysaffires]

Seems like it has the potential to be the most WhiteBum/Rumours sounding track since... well... Rumours. Excellent!!


well, they certainly are a band with plenty of white bums.....:eek:

[jbrownsjr]

"Once you said goodbye to me,
Now I say goodbye to you"

God yes, say goodbye already!

[button-lip]

My favorites:

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[button-lip]

God yes, say goodbye already!

I'm also extremely tired of the Gypsy story. But she can't stop telling it. Every. Single. Time.

[TrueFaith77]

My favorites:[/URL]

ALL of which would have made better album covers.

Actually, any frame of this video would have made a better album cover, except for the frame of the album cover.

[jkmaletic]

Some of you guys just can't simply enjoy this exciting video that came out today without insulting Stevie somehow. You guys want them to move on, which they have, but some of you guys don't seem to be moving on much. :shrug:
She's not part of this. The end. Try to be happy. They seem to be.

Jamie

[MikeVielhaber]

My favorites:

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Someone was asking where John was. He's right there on the left. He was also shown playing bass.

[button-lip]

ALL of which would have made better album covers.

Actually, any frame of this video would have made a better album cover, except for the frame of the album cover.

I love the back cover. I love every pic of them together! :blob1::blob1:

[button-lip]

Someone was asking where John was. He's right there on the left. He was also shown playing bass.

And he's sitting on Christine's left at some point. She's wearing glasses and laughing.

[jbrownsjr]

Great photos. Thanks for posting the stills.

[BombaySapphire3]

Going by this both Red Sun and Carnival Begin sound like much better Christine songs than Feel About You.I actually got that 'lift off " feeling that I always get when I hear many of her songs when I heard them ..who picked that single:shrug:

[jcfree]

Love these pictures! They look really great and happy together. The video on YT of Lindsey and Christine was very enticing! Those snippets of Christine's songs gave me chills listening to her and the chorus on them. It sounded like pure FM at it's finest, and it's just the four of them. I pre-ordered the CD through Amazon. So excited to hear the full CD, can hardly wait!:blob1:

[BLY]

After watching this all I can say is I Can't wait to get this music. As someone already stated this is a Fleetwood Mac record.Lindsey and Christine are very respectful in their "coming together" for this project. I'm a bit surprised it wasn't mentioned and stated that once Stevie was not going to be involved in this project we decided to ...(It doesn't matter now) These songs all sound great. Yes there is some staging in the video but if Chris isn't singing on a track they wouldn't record her mouthing it. This isn't a music video. I really do wish it could have been released under the MAC name not for me or us Ledgies but for the peeps that would only buy a Mac record and for the PR but we will see.

[button-lip]

I'm a bit surprised it wasn't mentioned and stated that once Stevie was not going to be involved in this project we decided to ...(It doesn't matter now) These songs all sound great. Yes there is some staging in the video but if Chris isn't singing on a track they wouldn't record her mouthing it. This isn't a music video. I really do wish it could have been released under the MAC name not for me or us Ledgies but for the peeps that would only buy a Mac record and for the PR but we will see.

Maybe they chose not to mention her just to keep the waters calm.... and because they don't care about her choices anymore. :shrug:

It should have been an FM album, but you know.... we're all trying not to hurt feelings here. Very sensitive people. :)

[BLY]

Maybe they chose not to mention her just to keep the waters calm.... and because they don't care about her choices anymore. :shrug:

It should have been an FM album, but you know.... we're all trying not to hurt feelings here. Very sensitive people. :)


I'm sure you are correct on all points. I'm still just a little bummed that it's not a project from the fab 5. I will get over it. 😎

[Frankenstein]

I love the back cover. I love every pic of them together! :blob1::blob1:

The back cover of the album is a nice picture. I wouldn't have minded it as the front cover. I wish Lindsey had at least worn that all black ensemble instead of the camel toe skinny jeans :lol:

[jbrownsjr]

The back cover of the album is a nice picture. I wouldn't have minded it as the front cover. I wish Lindsey had at least worn that all black ensemble instead of the camel toe skinny jeans :lol:

Yeah!! I paused on that photo. It was really nice!

[aleuzzi]

I have a question about the part where Christine is playing solo piano. Anyone know what song that is? Is it just an improvisation? Or is it, maybe, the backing track for Game of Pretend?

[aleuzzi]

It's interesting- judging by the title alone, I've been absolutely dreading hearing Carnival Begin. But here it is- by far the most alluring and classically Fleetwood Mac song we've heard since perhaps Destiny Rules. I'm really looking forward to hearing this album in its entirety now. I'd become quite anxious, given the poppy nature of the first few songs.

Yeah, Carnival Begin is as classic Mac as anything I've heard from this band since songs like Gypsy or Brown Eyes. It's got the full treatment. And there's a bit of Smile I Live For in it, too.

Given what I've heard from the 17-minute video, I realize now that their first three released songs were teasers, poppy appetizers that get people stoked to hear more. They were saving the feast for the release date.

[AlexD]

I know I'm probably wrong, but I kind of got a romantic vibe between the two from the video hahah

[secondhandchain]

So excited now. Really like Love is here to say and Carnival begin.

[bombaysaffires]

the bit around 9:54 or so sounds awfully reminiscent of ISA live.....

there's definitely some of that vocal tweaking going on, which kinda irritates me... leave the pro tools etc alone people..... and I wish her vocals were more upfront in the mix than they are.....she deserves to be clearly heard and not blended in with his tweaked vocals...

but I'm feeling better than when we only had the 3 initial songs to go by.

He wishes her merry xmas and she says happy new year...... was this the holidays 2016 or going back further, to before the tour??

[StevieandChris]

Great little film. I am so excited to hear the full songs of Red Sun and Carnival Begins. Yay!!!!

[LB Freakazoid]

I saw this this morning and just rewatched it....
What struck me was how almost giddy LB was about this whole process. He seemed really happy to have receptive collaboration and feedback.
Can't wait to hear the whole album....

[TsnFan4Ever]

This album sounds amazing and the "Making of Buckingham McVie" was great to watch. It's so incredible to see them all creating another project.

As wonderful as this is, as some of you have already said, it's just sad seeing it without Stevie participating. I think (and hope) it's going to be a huge hit and it will just be heartbreaking if this is the last album the group ever makes and she wasn't involved in it. I hope it won't be something she will regret for the rest of her life.

[dontlookdown]

That was really sweet.
Even the staged/cheesy parts.

The album sounds really good - and I'm happy to hear a lot of guitar and duo harmony.

Thank you for posting.

[secret love]

If I can make myself wait, I'll save my first listen of the full album for when I have a long drive. My drive to college is about 1.5 hours, but only on Tuesdays, Wednesdays and Thursdays. The album comes out on a Friday so this presents a problem. I'll be driving to soccer the following day, but that never takes more than half an hour.

I just enjoy driving to music, being in motion while listening to the songs. I'll sort something out. I'd go to the beach, but it'll be Winter by then.

Eh maybe I just listen in my room or study.

Thanks for sharing The Making Of video. Carnival Begin and On With the Show snippets were the highlights for me.

[stevierocks87]

Wow, what an unexpected treat! Like many of you said- a happy Destiny Rules. It really is so moving to see them so loving towards each other- I got a little watery eyed at the end!

I still wish Lindsey didn't distort his vocals in all his songs, but I really did like the songs I haven't heard yet, especially the closing song- wow!

They are just so lovely together aren't they? I must say I am more excited about the album now.

[BLY]

I still wish Lindsey didn't distort his vocals in all his songs[/QUOTE]



Lindsey has been doing this since Mirage. I kind of like it most of the time. The studio MAC and the live MAC have always been two very different sounds. As musicians in their late 60's/70's it's even more necessary (IMO) It also gives the harmonies and background vocals a much richer full sound and for the non MAC fanatics you would think Stevie is in the mix.

[TrueFaith77]

He wishes her merry xmas and she says happy new year...... was this the holidays 2016 or going back further, to before the tour??


Somewhere there are articles written at the time. It was Winter 2016 right before Christmas.

[ViscountViktor]

Lindsey got a "beautiful, circular moment" in. :lol:

Christine is on "On With The Show" Yes! I definitely think she's on SATC as it shows in the video.

Them all hugging and kissing :thumbsup: And Christine saying how "bloody easy" it is - that makes me so happy.

I LOVE the sound of Carnival Begin and the lush harmonies and organ, very reminiscent of Heart of Stone. Red Sun also sounds great.

All the little conversations between Lindsey and Christine are wonderful. What a treat this video is.

[TrueFaith77]

I'll be driving to soccer the following day, but that never takes more than half an hour.

I just enjoy driving to music, being in motion while listening to the songs. I'll sort something out. I'd go to the beach, but it'll be Winter by then.


Add 10 minutes to your soccer drive. Enjoy!

[ViscountViktor]

It's like a happy 'Destiny Rules'!

When they were talking towards the end about how it feels like she'd never been away, it did make me feel rather mournful about what they might have produced in those 'lost' years. But then, that's Fleetwood Mac for you - they always leave you wanting more...

Yes!!! :lol::lol::lol::lol:

I feel the same about what could have been - the lost years, and Stevie not being on this album.

My favorites:

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Is that guy the Stevie replacement they brought in? I've seen better...

[elle]

Is that guy the Stevie replacement they brought in? .

lol that's Neale Heywood. Interesting to see he was in the studio with them for some of the recording.

[TrueFaith77]

Moderators, please delete duplicative thread:

http://ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/showthread.php?t=57174

[wondergirl9847]

Wow, I've never seen Lindsey so happy. I'm ecstatic about this album and can these next two weeks hurry by?

Watched this last night on my phone, but was a tired zombie so gonna watch again on my laptop tonight with headphones. Wanna hear the song snippets better.

I am so disappointed they don't seem to be touring anywhere near me though and I can't travel right now.

[button-lip]

Is that guy the Stevie replacement they brought in? I've seen better...

Yes, yes he is. That's why I posted that pic. To see if someone notice her replacement. She's busy with little Harry. :lol:

[button-lip]

All the little conversations between Lindsey and Christine are wonderful. What a treat this video is.

He respects her and values her input so much! I hope this collaboration goes on for many years. :)

[TrueFaith77]

He respects her and value her input so much! I hope this collaboration goes on for many years. :)

Exactly. I don't want a one-off!!

[aleuzzi]

I have a question about the part where Christine is playing solo piano. Anyone know what song that is? Is it just an improvisation? Or is it, maybe, the backing track for Game of Pretend?

Does anyone have ideas about this?

[jbrownsjr]

Does anyone have ideas about this?


I swear I know this.. It sounds like a musical theater piece or something... I just can't put my finger on it, yet. Stay tuned.

[Say You Will]

[I just enjoy driving to music, being in motion while listening to the songs.


I am like that to. Being in motion somehow helps me focus. Sometimes I even turn the music off when I am standing still in traffic and then back on.

Maybe in the womb, my mom liked to listen while driving?:shrug:

[bombaysaffires]

The back cover of the album is a nice picture. I wouldn't have minded it as the front cover. I wish Lindsey had at least worn that all black ensemble instead of the camel toe skinny jeans :lol:

well in the video he mixes things up a bit with the hole-in-the-crotch jeans... with the hole on his right hand side which, we've deduced from earlier photos, is where he hangs his... hat. ;)

[TrueFaith77]

Some of you guys just can't simply enjoy this exciting video that came out today without insulting Stevie somehow. You guys want them to move on, which they have, but some of you guys don't seem to be moving on much. :shrug:
She's not part of this. The end. Try to be happy. They seem to be.

Jamie

I think the video is full of passive-aggressive swipes at Stevie and acknowledgments that this is a Fleetwood Mac album.

Even my best friend who only knows about Mac through me responded this way to the video (unprompted): a) "the songs sound great!" b) "Christine is so cute--but she has ooooold lady arms" c) "The video should have been 1/3 as long; it's very repetitive with all the veiled digs at Stevie and the efforts to rub Stevie's face in it; Stevie should see all 17 minutes, but I didn't need to"

So I don't think it's "us" who are bringing up Stevie; we are just responding to the video itself.

Nobody in this band has gotten over anything.

Stevie and Lindsey will be at war until they stop breathing.

It's just they are no longer at war in the studio and on the same records anymore.

[jbrownsjr]

I think the video is full of passive-aggressive swipes at Stevie and acknowledgments that this is a Fleetwood Mac album.

Even my best friend who only knows about Mac through me responded this way to the video (unprompted): a) "the songs sound great!" b) "Christine is so cute--but she has ooooold lady arms" c) "The video should have been 1/3 as long; it's very repetitive with all the veiled digs at Stevie and the efforts to rub Stevie's face in it; Stevie should see all 17 minutes, but I didn't need to"

So I don't think it's "us" who are bringing up Stevie; we are just responding to the video itself.

Nobody in this band has gotten over anything.

Stevie and Lindsey will be at war until they stop breathing.

It's just they are no longer at war in the studio and on the same records anymore.

My friend, Paul, is a Stevie fan. He said he is going to go to Vegas to see BuckVie. (I told him about the video, and he's really excited)

He said after reading her comments about Fmac and Buckvie he is so turned off by her attitude. And he's a HUGE Babs fan (Stevie passed babs up in the full of crap dept!!)

I was shocked. I mean he bought me IYD for my birthday. Very very sweet man.

When he started complaining about Stevie I just nodded and smiled. I said, "I know girl, with all the sales and records in the world, she can never be Christine." and he laughed at me.. then he said, "That's so true, nobody can ever be Christine McVie."

[jbrownsjr]

And I love love love her old lady arms. I want to hug her so badly!! She's so centered and classy.

Christine used to call Stevie and her posse, "The Silly Sisters"

[FuzzyPlum]

the bit around 9:54 or so sounds awfully reminiscent of ISA live.....



Yes it does.

The bit at 5.44 sounds like 'Wrong' to me

[button-lip]

I think the video is full of passive-aggressive swipes at Stevie and acknowledgments that this is a Fleetwood Mac album.

I never got that impression from the video. Really?! Maybe I'm so happy seeing them so happy that for 17 minutes I forgot about Stevie. :shrug:

Nobody in this band has gotten over anything.

Stevie and Lindsey will be at war until they stop breathing.

It's just they are no longer at war in the studio and on the same records anymore.

They're constantly acknowledging each other at songs or in concerts, so yeah, this war isn't over yet. I think Lindsey won more battles though. :lol:

[SteveMacD]

Is that guy the Stevie replacement they brought in? I've seen better...
LOL!

I'm just trying to imagine Neale in chiffon.

[elle]

LOL!

I'm just trying to imagine Neale in chiffon.

He did write New Orleans, after all!

[button-lip]

And I love love love her old lady arms. I want to hug her so badly!! She's so centered and classy.

Christine used to call Stevie and her posse, "The Silly Sisters"

I love her old tonned lady arms. :)

[bombaysaffires]

Yes it does.

The bit at 5.44 sounds like 'Wrong' to me

I will have to check that.

Around 2:00 mark they play what sounds like a new song, then Lindsey talks over it about Christine returning blah blah blah while the track keeps playing under his talking. and then about the 2:12 mark, where he's in B&W and jokingly grabs towards the camera, the music comes back up and that da-da-ding-ding-ding da-da-ding-ding-ding guitar riff from 2:12-2:17 is incredibly familiar---it's something off of Mirage and I cannot place it but it is totally a recycle from a previous song of his........... can anyone else figure it out? :shrug:

AHA!! It's the very ending bit of You and I part 2....the very end and then as it fades out. It's just faster on Y&I

[FuzzyPlum]

I love her old tonned lady arms. :)

tonned? tonned? why, how dare you? what are you trying to say?

[FuzzyPlum]

AHA!! It's the very ending bit of You and I part 2....the very end and then as it fades out. It's just faster on Y&I

Yes, its rather a bit too much 'You and I Part 2' -ish for me. No problems recycling ideas but that's just a straight rehash. I think its another example of how they me be trying to link the music back to Tango In The Night. That as well as the Big Love-ish grunts. I'm sure we'll end up finding more TITN links.

[SteveMacD]

The creative chemistry within the classic lineup of Fleetwood Mac has historically been a talking point for both Christine and Lindsey, so I didn't interpret the comments in this video as a swipe against Stevie.

What annoys me is how full of crap they're being about it being a duets album, like saying they recruited Mick and John because they're the best rhythm section in the world. No, it was always supposed to be a Fleetwood Mac album, which is why Mick and John are on it. Just be honest about it. Just say that it started as a Fleetwood Mac album, Stevie didn't want to participate, and that it morphed into something different. It's still crap, but at least it approaches the truth.

[elle]

where he's in B&W and jokingly grabs towards the camera, the music comes back up and that da-da-ding-ding-ding da-da-ding-ding-ding guitar riff from 2:12-2:17 is incredibly familiar---

i'm now convinced - but will see once we actually hear all the songs - that they intentionally put references to various past FM songs in every single song on this album. Big Love on IMW, Red Rover on SATC, Tusk on Too Far Gone, ISA on Carnival Begin, etc. i guess the only exception is Love Is Here To Stay which harkens back to LB solo with its mix of Rock Away Blind and She Acts like you.... maybe to show it starts with FM past and resolves to some mix of solo into a duo stuff.

i'm also starting to think that the song sequencing and the album actually tells a story - from trying to reconvene FM for a new record that didn't really work out as planned (IMW), through Christine burning the bridges (SATC) and then coming back (CB) and FM going on with the show etc. Carnival Begins? remember when Dave Stewart was leaving for Nashville in like April 2014 while FM was in Village Recorder? he tweeted something like carnival is leaving the town. interesting, no? it's all circular. :p:angel:

[ViscountViktor]

Yes, its rather a bit too much 'You and I Part 2' -ish for me. No problems recycling ideas but that's just a straight rehash. I think its another example of how they me be trying to link the music back to Tango In The Night. That as well as the Big Love-ish grunts. I'm sure we'll end up finding more TITN links.

Lots of Tango references, but that's fine by me! I love You & I Part 2.

Yes, yes he is. That's why I posted that pic. To see if someone notice her replacement. She's busy with little Harry. :lol:

If he's the replacement he must have some closer features than looks to Stevie.

Maybe cocaine ingestion.

LOL!

I'm just trying to imagine Neale in chiffon.

I'm sure he was wearing it at the audition.

Maybe that's why they didn't realise he was a man.

[elle]

What annoys me is how full of crap they're being about it being a duets album, like saying they recruited Mick and John because they're the best rhythm section in the world. No, it was always supposed to be a Fleetwood Mac album, which is why Mick and John are on it. Just be honest about it. Just say that it started as a Fleetwood Mac album, Stevie didn't want to participate, and that it morphed into something different. It's still crap, but at least it approaches the truth.
yup - this just came up on my fb timeline from 2 years ago, while they were still talking about it as possible FM album - http://www.mojo4music.com/20368/mojo-fleetwood-mac-special-lindsey-buckingham/.

[elle]

Lots of Tango references, but that's fine by me! I love You & I Part 2.



If he's the replacement he must have some closer features than looks to Stevie.

Maybe cocaine ingestion.



I'm sure he was wearing it at the audition.

Maybe that's why they didn't realise he was a man.

i don't know why, because i have to assume it's all in good fun, but it really annoys me to read these jokes about Neale. i'm sure everyone here knows it's Neale Heywood, he's been with FM and LB solo since early 90s. he is introduced at the end of every FM show. he is not there as any kind of SN replacement and we all should know better than to keep going on with some kind of appearance jokes.

maybe i just had a bad week, if you all feel like this is non-provoked jumping on you, feel free to remove.

[sands of time]

i don't know why, because i have to assume it's all in good fun, but it really annoys me to read these jokes about Neale. i'm sure everyone here knows it's Neale Heywood, he's been with FM and LB solo since early 90s. he is introduced at the end of every FM show. he is not there as any kind of SN replacement and we all should know better than to keep going on with some kind of appearance jokes.

maybe i just had a bad week, if you all feel like this is non-provoked jumping on you, feel free to remove.

I bet you're a lot of fun at parties.

[SteveMacD]

i don't know why, because i have to assume it's all in good fun, but it really annoys me to read these jokes about Neale. i'm sure everyone here knows it's Neale Heywood, he's been with FM and LB solo since early 90s.
I still want to know why he's thanked on "Time," since he wasn't part of the Fleetwood Mac machine at that point.

[button-lip]

i don't know why, because i have to assume it's all in good fun, but it really annoys me to read these jokes about Neale. i'm sure everyone here knows it's Neale Heywood, he's been with FM and LB solo since early 90s. he is introduced at the end of every FM show. he is not there as any kind of SN replacement and we all should know better than to keep going on with some kind of appearance jokes.

maybe i just had a bad week, if you all feel like this is non-provoked jumping on you, feel free to remove.

I know who Neale is. I have seen hundreds of bootlegs in which he's introduced along with Brett.

I was the one who initiated the joke. Sorry to bother you. Not gonna happen again.

[button-lip]

tonned? tonned? why, how dare you? what are you trying to say?

Nothing. She has nice arms, that's all.

[elle]

I bet you're a lot of fun at parties.

Haha nice personal dig there darlin'

[ViscountViktor]

i don't know why, because i have to assume it's all in good fun, but it really annoys me to read these jokes about Neale. i'm sure everyone here knows it's Neale Heywood, he's been with FM and LB solo since early 90s. he is introduced at the end of every FM show. he is not there as any kind of SN replacement and we all should know better than to keep going on with some kind of appearance jokes.

maybe i just had a bad week, if you all feel like this is non-provoked jumping on you, feel free to remove.

I know who he is, I just thought it was funny he was standing there where Stevie would have been.

Sorry if I offended.

[Macfan4life]

I don't understand how some fret over a very mild mannered joke in a forum. Maybe its the language or cultural barriers since we are in different countries or something?
Its funny how 2 people can read something and have different meanings. I never read anyone making fun of Stevie or saying anything derogatory against anyone.

[aleuzzi]

The creative chemistry within the classic lineup of Fleetwood Mac has historically been a talking point for both Christine and Lindsey, so I didn't interpret the comments in this video as a swipe against Stevie.

What annoys me is how full of crap they're being about it being a duets album, like saying they recruited Mick and John because they're the best rhythm section in the world. No, it was always supposed to be a Fleetwood Mac album, which is why Mick and John are on it. Just be honest about it. Just say that it started as a Fleetwood Mac album, Stevie didn't want to participate, and that it morphed into something different. It's still crap, but at least it approaches the truth.

You're right, of course. But in the end, I'm actually glad they're pushing another story because it asks us to see their work on its own terms independent of Mac expectations. There is something freeing about that, no matter how disingenuous they're being about the project's origins. This alternative history, as it were, also removes any discussion of Stevie: they don't have to speak to her absence, and reviewers don't have to discuss it. What we focus on is the music itself.

[tango87]

All these song clips are so tantalising... I agree, there are definitely a number of 'references' to earlier tracks - as Fuzzy Plum mentioned, that guitar riff is just like 'Wrong', for example; the 'You and I' bit, the 'Big Love' grunts... All very deliberate, I'm sure, and no doubt there are more to come. But I don't mind that at all - anyway, lots of guitarists recycle riffs.

I know 'In My World' hasn't been embraced by everyone here, but I really love it - it already sounds like a minor classic to me! That might be because it's been played so much on the radio in the UK. It was even a question on the daily 'Popmaster' quiz on BBC Radio 2's Ken Bruce show this morning!

[aleuzzi]

All these song clips are so tantalising... I agree, there are definitely a number of 'references' to earlier tracks - as Fuzzy Plum mentioned, that guitar riff is just like 'Wrong', for example; the 'You and I' bit, the 'Big Love' grunts... All very deliberate, I'm sure, and no doubt there are more to come. But I don't mind that at all - anyway, lots of guitarists recycle riffs.

I know 'In My World' hasn't been embraced by everyone here, but I really love it - it already sounds like a minor classic to me! That might be because it's been played so much on the radio in the UK. It was even a question on the daily 'Popmaster' quiz on BBC Radio 2's Ken Bruce show this morning!

I love IMW. Great tune, great drums and bass, too. My only complaint is that Christine should be singing on it, or--for those that feel she is singing in it--singing audibly.

[jwd]

The creative chemistry within the classic lineup of Fleetwood Mac has historically been a talking point for both Christine and Lindsey, so I didn't interpret the comments in this video as a swipe against Stevie.

What annoys me is how full of crap they're being about it being a duets album, like saying they recruited Mick and John because they're the best rhythm section in the world. No, it was always supposed to be a Fleetwood Mac album, which is why Mick and John are on it. Just be honest about it. Just say that it started as a Fleetwood Mac album, Stevie didn't want to participate, and that it morphed into something different. It's still crap, but at least it approaches the truth.

Who the **** cares! We're getting new music...end of story.

[jwd]

https://youtu.be/WxVsqngf9yE

This is SO GOOD! All the tracks previously unheard are a LOT better than the ones already spilled. Love the harmonies! So proud of the camaraderie and the spirit of creating new music....THE SHOW MUST GO ON!!!!! :blob1:

GO LINDSEY!
GO CHRIS!

[jbrownsjr]

I love love love the eyeroll Christine does when she's talking about walking her dogs. She's like... "girl, what are you bloody doing??? "

[elle]

https://www.axs.com/watch-lindsey-buckingham-christine-mcvie-share-documentary-video-on-du-119055

Watch: Lindsey Buckingham & Christine McVie share documentary video on duo album

Robert Rheubottom - AXS Contributor
By: Robert Rheubottom AXS Contributor May 26, 2017 3 hours ago

Watch: Lindsey Buckingham & Christine McVie share documentary video on duo album
YouTube/Buckingham & McVie

Lindsey Buckingham & Christine McVie fans frothing at the mouth in anticipation of their debut solo album and first-ever solo tour together can whet their appetites with a newly posted behind-the-scenes video. The short documentary provides insight into the making of their upcoming duo release Buckingham/McVie, which will hit shelves June 9 via Rhino Records.

Rolling Stones reports on May 25 that the Fleetwood Mac stars posted the clip on Thursday at their official YouTube channel. The documentary follows in the wake of the release of two singles “In My World,” as well as “Feel About You,” which were released last month.

Dubbed “The Making of the Album… Lindsey Buckingham/Christine McVie,” the video was shot in in Los Angeles at the Village Studios. The footage features studio work and comments by Buckingham and McVie, as well as appearances by Mac bandmates Mick Fleetwood and John McVie, who are also featured extensively on the album.

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“Our music seemed to evolve organically,” says Christine McVie in the documentary. “I was sending Lindsey (Buckingham) my rough demos and he sort of refined them and reshaped them into what's turned out to be some of best material ever.”

Produced by Buckingham along with Mitchell Froom and Mark Needham, Buckingham/Christine McVie features 10 tracks, including the singles “In My World” and “Feel About You.” It is available here for preorder here in CD, digital and vinyl formats.

The pair of Rock and Roll Hall of Famers will kick off their U.S. summer tour on June 21 in Atlanta at Chastain Park and will wrap up July 27 in Denver at The Paramount. Tickets for select Buckingham & McVie events are available now at AXS.

The multi-platinum sellers will also be back in action with Fleetwood Mac for a pair of shows for The Classic Concerts. The “You Can Go Your Won Way” hitmakers will headline a bill that also features special guests Journey and Earth, Wind & Fire at Classic West on July 15 in Los Angeles at Dodger Stadium with the same lineup will perform at Classic East on July 30 in New York at Citi Field.

For the latest details on Buckingham & McVie, click here. For more information on Fleetwood Mac, click here.

[SteveMacD]

Who the **** cares! We're getting new music...end of story.
Sorry, but it's annoying how they're going out of their way to rewrite the history of this album.

[elle]

Lindsey Buckingham Says Fleetwood Mac Had Doubts Over New Buckingham-McVie Album

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Lindsey Buckingham has revealed that the members of Fleetwood Mac had doubts over their contributions to the new duets album he wrote with Christine McVie.

His comments were made in a 17-minute documentary clip that goes behind the scenes at recording sessions for the LP, which arrives on June 9. The tracks “In My World” and “Feel About You” were released last month.

The project had its roots in McVie’s return to Fleetwood Mac in 2014, a move that led to a rekindling of a writing partnership with Buckingham. When Stevie Nicks decided she didn’t feel right about a new Fleetwood Mac record, Buckingham and McVie decided to continue working among themselves, before bringing in Mac bandmates Mick Fleetwood and John McVie to the project.

“One of the things we thought about was to create an environment that was a departure, but also one that was familiar and felt like home,” Buckingham says in the above video. “We immediately thought of John and Mick, the greatest rhythm section there is. It was a wonderful idea on paper. Whether or not that played out remained to be seen. We didn’t go in assuming it was going to be wonderful. We knew we loved each other and we wanted to do it. But whether the process would be as enlightening and effortless as it seems to have been was another question.”

That comment is followed by a scene in Los Angeles’ Village Studios, where Buckingham reports that they’ve been working together for only an hour but “the chemistry is running rampant here.”

McVie described the project as a “fresh beginning,” adding, “Coming back into the band after 16 years, and to take off into another level with Lindsey, again – I guess I’ve rediscovered by love for writing, my love for music.”

Buckingham and McVie will start a brief U.S. tour next month, while Fleetwood Mac appear at the new Classic East and Classic West festivals, in New York and Los Angeles, respectively, in July.


Read More: Lindsey Buckingham Says Fleetwood Mac Had Doubts Over New Buckingham-McVie Album | http://ultimateclassicrock.com/buckingham-mcvie-fleetwood-mac-2017-album/?trackback=tsmclip

[HomerMcvie]

Sorry, but it's annoying how they're going out of their way to rewrite the history of this album.

I agree completely. BUT, I've been thinking about what someone said, that around SYW era, that Stevie and Lindsey's lawyers (most likely Stevie's though) now have her as part of the BRAND Fleetwood Mac, that it can't be FM without her.

Maybe it's true, maybe not...but I can see that being a distinct possibility. I mean, it PISSES me off, but maybe that's the reason...?

If so, off with her head!!!:lol:

[HomerMcvie]

Okay, I was out of town, and just saw this. I LOVE it!!!!! The camaraderie between them is so obvious, and so touching. I can't wait for the album and my show!!!!!



I firmly believe that they're so relieved to just being doing this themselves. Well, and with John. Oh yeah, and with Mick, too. Something's missing....DRAMA!:wavey:

[jwd]

Sorry, but it's annoying how they're going out of their way to rewrite the history of this album.

Politically correct at worst. No one cares about the "history" of the album, we're just stoked that we have this ****ing music! :blob1:

[michelej1]

and I still cant buy the 'Organic duet album, we immediately thought of John and Mick' blah blah blah

They used a similar "organic" story for how they all ended up working on Lindsey's solo album and the Dance coming together.

Michele

[michelej1]

I know who he is, I just thought it was funny he was standing there where Stevie would have been.

Sorry if I offended.

You're not the first. Years ago, I heard someone in the audience near me talk about Neale as Christine's replacement at an old FM concert. The person said, "he even has hair like hers," which puzzled me, since he's a brunette.

Michele

[michelej1]

Okay, I was out of town, and just saw this. I LOVE it!!!!! The camaraderie between them is so obvious, and so touching. I can't wait for the album and my show!!!!!



One of the things that touched me a lot when Lindsey showed up at the end for the two BTM shows is the way he and Christine were together (he also had a very nice, awkward handshake moment with John). They were hugging and kissing during the band announcements and Christine was running her fingers through his hair. I mean it wasn't just a moment of PDA, it was like "get a room" both nights he appeared. I cherished that.

Michele

[BombaySapphire3]

One of the things that touched me a lot when Lindsey showed up at the end for the two BTM shows is the way he and Christine were together (he also had a very nice, awkward handshake moment with John). They were hugging and kissing during the band announcements and Christine was running her fingers through his hair. I mean it wasn't just a moment of PDA, it was like "get a room" both nights he appeared. I cherished that.

Michele

I was at one of those Forum shows as well..The one image that sticks in my mind from after the show was Stevie leaning up against a concrete wall smoking a Kool cigarette..it seemed like the end.

[HomerMcvie]

You're not the first. Years ago, I heard someone in the audience near me talk about Neale as Christine's replacement at an old FM concert. The person said, "he even has hair like hers," which puzzled me, since he's a brunette.

Michele

Well, he has hair, so that's probably it. :rolleyes:

[SteveMacD]

Politically correct at worst. No one cares about the "history" of the album, we're just stoked that we have this ****ing music! :blob1:

You're speaking for everyone now?

I wouldn't have even said anything if not for something ridiculous they said (namely about why they had Mick and John on it).

[aleuzzi]

One of the things that touched me a lot when Lindsey showed up at the end for the two BTM shows is the way he and Christine were together (he also had a very nice, awkward handshake moment with John). They were hugging and kissing during the band announcements and Christine was running her fingers through his hair. I mean it wasn't just a moment of PDA, it was like "get a room" both nights he appeared. I cherished that.

Michele

She was not thrilled to be working in the band without him, even while she got along personally with Billy and Rick.

I remember Rolling Stone capturing a photo of Christine and Lindsey at Mick's wedding around that time. She and Lindsey looked so happy and cool together! Seeing them that way got my hopes up for a potential project like the one we have now: I, like many FM fans, have dreamed of this day.

[SteveMacD]

She was not thrilled to be working in the band without him, even while she got along personally with Billy and Rick.
I think, given all of the comments Lindsey made in 1987 prior to leaving, Christine had a determination to show they could do it without him. That said, she never ruled out future collaboration with him. I think they had the least animosity between them when Lindsey left. And, I think her father's death maybe put a few things into perspective for her.

I remember Rolling Stone capturing a photo of Christine and Lindsey at Mick's wedding around that time. She and Lindsey looked so happy and cool together! Seeing them that way got my hopes up for a potential project like the one we have now: I, like many FM fans, have dreamed of this day.
http://www.kshe95.com/sites/g/files/exi371/f/styles/large_730/public/article-images-featured/1494086-535181.jpg

[aleuzzi]

I think, given all of the comments Lindsey made in 1987 prior to leaving, Christine had a determination to show they could do it without him. That said, she never ruled out future collaboration with him. I think they had the least animosity between them when Lindsey left. And, I think her father's death maybe put a few things into perspective for her.


http://www.kshe95.com/sites/g/files/exi371/f/styles/large_730/public/article-images-featured/1494086-535181.jpg

Thanks for the pic. Gosh, I still love it.

Maybe initially Christine wanted to prove the band could move on without Lindsey, but it seemed by the time she quit touring her view changed, or she was at the very least less convinced. Certainly by 1994, before TIME was released, she was unambiguously clear that LB was who the band needed most and even admitted this in an aol q-&-a session. When did her father die? Was it around 1990 or 1995?

[elle]

http://wror.com/2017/05/26/watch-behind-scenes-look-new-lindsey-buckingham-christine-mcvie-album/

MAY 26, 2017
WATCH: Behind-The-Scenes Look at the New Buckingham McVie Album

by Erica Banas

Lindsey Buckingham and Christine McVie are two weeks out from the release of their self-titled album, and they dropped an extended look at the release on their YouTube page.

As previously reported, while the album is being released under the name “Buckingham McVie,” it’s essentially a Fleetwood Mac album minus Stevie Nicks. Both Mick Fleetwood and John McVie play on the album and just from the way everyone is interacting in the mini-documentary below, it seems like everyone was having a blast making this record.

Of course, with this new album comes a mini tour, which kicks off June 21 in Atlanta and makes its way through the likes of Nashville, Raleigh, Boston, Philadelphia, Detroit, Chicago and Las Vegas before wrapping in Denver on July 27.

[michelej1]

I think, given all of the comments Lindsey made in 1987 prior to leaving, Christine had a determination to show they could do it without him. That said, she never ruled out future collaboration with him. I think they had the least animosity between them when Lindsey left. And, I think her father's death maybe put a few things into perspective for her.



Lindsey's brother had died just before that BTM appearance and I'm sure that made them feel especially kindly towards him.

Michele

[SteveMacD]

Thanks for the pic. Gosh, I still love it.

Maybe initially Christine wanted to prove the band could move on without Lindsey, but it seemed by the time she quit touring her view changed, or she was at the very least less convinced. Certainly by 1994, before TIME was released, she was unambiguously clear that LB was who the band needed most and even admitted this in an aol q-&-a session. When did her father die? Was it around 1990 or 1995?
Her father died during the 1990 tour, which I suspect was the biggest factor in her retirement from touring, although she had said in a few interviews that she didn't see being a rocker after 50 (she was 47 at the time).

The AOL chat was done right after the release of "Time." Fleetwood Mac did one right after Christine (Mick said Fleetwood Mac was Mick Fleetwood, John McVie, Billy Burnette, Bekka Bramlett, Dave Mason, and Steve Thoma), and John did one about a week later on Prodigy.

[elle]

http://www.noise11.com/news/lindsay-buckingham-and-christine-mcvie-premiere-documentary-20170527

Lindsay Buckingham and Christine McVie Premiere Documentary
by ROGER WINK, VVN MUSIC on MAY 27, 2017
in NEWS
A seventeen-minute documentary has been released on the making of the upcoming Lindsey Buckingham/Christine McVie album.


The self-titled set, which will be out on June 9 via East-West Records, may be the closest we get to a new Fleetwood Mac album as it sounds like the five members have little chance of getting back in the studio together although both John McVie and Mick Fleetwood also play on the set.

The new collaboration started to fuse when McVie decided to come back to the band after almost two decades away. The idea for the duet album came together even before the reunion tour started with the two going into the studio for some initial sessions. The finished after the completion of the tour.

Just listening to the snippets of music in the documentary, this sounds like it is going to be an amazing, upbeat, piece of pop/rock.

[SteveMacD]

Lindsey's brother had died just before that BTM appearance and I'm sure that made them feel especially kindly towards him.
And, with Christine's dad dying during that tour, she and Lindsey were probably kindred spirits.

[michelej1]

John probably made a point of leaving early so he could avoid all of that hugging. Good heavens.

After watching, when I go back and look at the track listing, I think the first 6 songs are pretty great actually and that's even counting Feel About You, when you put it in context with the other tracks. And Carnival Begin as the anchor. That's a pretty good album if you ask me. As long as Game of Pretend and Lay Down for Free aren't complete duds. If they are back to back losers that will be the worst thing since Running Through the Garden and Silver Girl ended up next to each other in bed.

I'm not quite sure about On With the Show, from what I heard, but this is very pleasing.

I would rather not have any previews and I didn't really want to watch the video, but in the end I couldn't resist.

Michele

[FuzzyPlum]

Just watched it again for the 10th time.
I like the bit where Christine says 'that's tasty' in reference to Carnival Begin. At least that's what I think she says.

[FuzzyPlum]

A couple more observations;
I assume the piano piece at 8.30 is a snippet of Game of Pretend.
I also wonder whether the guitar piece at 11.52 is a snippet of Love is Here to Stay.

Also, just wanted to say How great Christine looks. At 11.20 when she's singing Red Sun in particular she looks absolutely radiant and in no way looks her 73 years.

Red Sun and Carnival Begin sound a bit like 'companion pieces' along the lines of Love Shines and Heart of Stone. I'm loving the other songs but it makes me yearn for more original, wholly Christine compositions.

[FuzzyPlum]

tonned? tonned? why, how dare you? what are you trying to say?

Nothing. She has nice arms, that's all.


Sorry, I'm just being facetious...
toned.
I picture tonned arms being big, fat and heavy.

[nicepace]

I was just thinking about how many delightful surprises we Christine fans have had since she "retired."

First, out of nowhere came her great solo album, In the Meantime.

Then, equally out of nowhere, she came out of retirement and rejoined the band for a wonderful live tour.

And now, we have a new album she has recorded with Lindsey, Mick, and John. The chemistry among the members of this team is obvious, and the album's going to be excellent.

I'm feeling very grateful for all these surprises!

[jkmaletic]

The creative chemistry within the classic lineup of Fleetwood Mac has historically been a talking point for both Christine and Lindsey, so I didn't interpret the comments in this video as a swipe against Stevie.

What annoys me is how full of crap they're being about it being a duets album, like saying they recruited Mick and John because they're the best rhythm section in the world. No, it was always supposed to be a Fleetwood Mac album, which is why Mick and John are on it. Just be honest about it. Just say that it started as a Fleetwood Mac album, Stevie didn't want to participate, and that it morphed into something different. It's still crap, but at least it approaches the truth.

Agreed. I still don't understand why they just don't call it a Fleetwood Mac album. I mean, why not? :shrug:

Jamie

[HomerMcvie]

Agreed. I still don't understand why they just don't call it a Fleetwood Mac album. I mean, why not? :shrug:

Jamie

I believe(as someone else has suggested) that Stevie's name is now part of the brand. That Mick can no longer go out with a different lineup.

Just a thought...

[BigAl84]

As much as it comes across as BS by side stepping the Stevie issue, I still applaud them for doing so. They are in their 70's, radiant and happy. What would causing that kind of drama even accomplish. I think its pretty clear they would rather prefer to leave their legacy's behind while still retaining love and reapect between them all. I dont think Lindsey, Mick, John or Chris want to cause hard feelings.

[BLY]

As much as it comes across as BS by side stepping the Stevie issue, I still applaud them for doing so. They are in their 70's, radiant and happy. What would causing that kind of drama even accomplish. I think its pretty clear they would rather prefer to leave their legacy's behind while still retaining love and reapect between them all. I dont think Lindsey, Mick, John or Chris want to cause hard feelings.


Amen to that!

[vivfox]

I enjoyed this video and am instantly in love with Red Sun and Carnival Begins.

I have also enjoyed all the silly, ridiculous bickering between you fans in this thread. FM must get a real kick out of us when reading TL. And I know they read it.

[SisterNightroad]

I enjoyed this video and am instantly in love with Red Sun and Carnival Begins.

I have also enjoyed all the silly, ridiculous bickering between you fans in this thread. FM must get a real kick out of us when reading TL. And I know they read it.
I agree on everything.

[BLY]

I agree on everything.


Me three. I can't wait to hear Red Sun and Carnival Begins.

[vivfox]

After watching, when I go back and look at the track listing, I think the first 6 songs are pretty great actually and that's even counting Feel About You, when you put it in context with the other tracks. And Carnival Begin as the anchor. That's a pretty good album if you ask me. As long as Game of Pretend and Lay Down for Free aren't complete duds. If they are back to back losers that will be the worst thing since Running Through the Garden and Silver Girl ended up next to each other in bed.

These last 2 sentences were my BEST LOL moments in this entire thread.:lol:

[elle]

As much as it comes across as BS by side stepping the Stevie issue, I still applaud them for doing so. They are in their 70's, radiant and happy. What would causing that kind of drama even accomplish. I think its pretty clear they would rather prefer to leave their legacy's behind while still retaining love and reapect between them all. I dont think Lindsey, Mick, John or Chris want to cause hard feelings.

You bring up a really great point. Goes well with someone's previous comment how that video is like happy destiny rules. We often complained in the past about them dragging out and exploiting stupid long done love story. They decided not to this time, no drama, just enjoying their work and basking in Chris coming back. That's really great and I'm sure liberating for them.

[BigAl84]

You bring up a really great point. Goes well with someone's previous comment how that video is like happy destiny rules. We often complained in the past about them dragging out and exploiting stupid long done love story. They decided not to this time, no drama, just enjoying their work and basking in Chris coming back. That's really great and I'm sure liberating for them.

Thanks! I think it would be a huge loss to see some sort of big falling out that would cause the entire band to splinter during their twilight years. I hate saying crap like that, but it's true. They are not getting any younger.

[BLY]

I have to say I would never have thought after 40 years of having this band as the soundtrack of my life I would get new music in 2017 from this group. As disappointed that I am that Stevie isn't on this project .......Thank You Fleetwood Mac! The music sounds fresh with all the elements that made me follow you from the beginning.

[michelej1]

You bring up a really great point. Goes well with someone's previous comment how that video is like happy destiny rules.

Dame through a drink in his face as soon as the cameras stopped rolling.

Michele

[bombaysaffires]

i don't know why, because i have to assume it's all in good fun, but it really annoys me to read these jokes about Neale. i'm sure everyone here knows it's Neale Heywood, he's been with FM and LB solo since early 90s. he is introduced at the end of every FM show. he is not there as any kind of SN replacement and we all should know better than to keep going on with some kind of appearance jokes.

maybe i just had a bad week, if you all feel like this is non-provoked jumping on you, feel free to remove.

I think those jokes are really digs at Stevie, not anything actually about Neale.:shrug:

[HomerMcvie]

Dame through a drink in his face as soon as the cameras stopped rolling.

Michele

Madame is not to be trifled with!

[Say You Will]

I have to say I would never have thought after 40 years of having this band as the soundtrack of my life I would get new music in 2017 from this group. As disappointed that I am that Stevie isn't on this project .......Thank You Fleetwood Mac! The music sounds fresh with all the elements that made me follow you from the beginning.




Amen to that. Thank you for sharing.

[Elliefw]

Christine interview in express

Christine McVie reveals why she returned to the spotlight with new duet album

FLEETWOOD Mac star Christine McVie reveals why she returned to the spotlight with her band... and a new duet album.

By CLAIR WOODWARD

The new album from Fleetwood Mac’s Lindsey Buckingham and Christine McVie feels like a big, warm hug.

The great melodies, intimate harmonies and terrific arrangements are instantly recognisable as coming from two of the band’s songwriters yet they’re new and intriguing enough to make it more than just another side project from an iconic group.

And for Christine, 73 – the understated genius behind the keyboards in Fleetwood Mac and writer of some of their most recognisable songs (Don’t Stop, Little Lies, Say You Love Me, Hold Me and Everywhere) – the sensation of reconnecting with old friends was the inspiration behind the new collaboration.

She officially retired from the band in 1998, after stepping away from touring a few years earlier, and it was her return to it for the 2015 reunion tour that sparked the collaboration with Lindsey.

"We’ve always had a particular musical relationship since he first joined the band – it was immediate,” Christine explains in her warm, honeyed tone.

“The whole band was just chemistry abounding but Lindsey and I, me being the piano player and him the guitar player, understand each other musically without saying anything.

“We’ve always worked well together over the years but never thought about doing an album together until recently and now we wonder why we didn’t think about doing it before.

“The moment I knew I was going back into the band I flew over to Santa Monica to start rehearsals but, before that, I’d sent Lindsey a few demos of stuff I’d recorded and he went into his studio to arrange them. He played them back to me and I said, ‘These sound really great.’ So we decided to go and record them properly. (Fittingly, fellow Mac members Mick Fleetwood and John McVie, on drums and bass, also perform on the album.)

"After we finished the world tour, Lindsey got in touch and said, ‘What are we going to do with these songs, they’re too good to just shelve?’ So we decided to go ahead with releasing a duet album.”

Christine’s return to Fleetwood Mac and her new burst of creativity comes at a time when many people thought that, after several years away from the hurly-burly of rock star life, she would never be seen on stage again.

In the intervening years she moved from California where she had lived for the best part of 30 years (she grew up in Birmingham and moved to London after attending art college), and bought a beautiful country home in the village of Wickhambreaux, Kent, which she spent several years restoring.

“I felt very at home in California but the place is prone to earthquakes and the one in 1994 scared the life out of me. For months afterwards I felt that every time I sat down I should have put on a seatbelt. It was really bad and I thought, ‘I’m going to get a house in England.’ I got to a point where I’d been in a band for 40 years and wanted to get back to real life.”

Yet being a lady of leisure eventually proved to be not enough for Christine.

“I started to say, ‘OK, now what?’ I had my two dogs there, they were my life. My marriage (to keyboardist Eddy Quintela) fell through, so I was living on my own and felt isolated. Most of my friends were in London or Los Angeles and worked nine-to-five for a living.

“I did have some friends living with me for a while but, eventually, I reached a point where it was time to start changing things.”

The catalyst for this change was Christine’s need to overcome her fear of flying and the intervention of Mick Fleetwood.

“I had a horrible terror that the next plane I got on would crash,” she remembers.

“So I had therapy to get over that, and other issues I’d developed through isolation, and sorted myself out. My therapist and I discussed the idea of me writing songs again and trying to reach out to the rest of the band as well.

“The therapist asked where I wanted most to fly if I could and I said Maui (one of the Hawaiian islands), as Mick lives there and I have a lot of friends there. So I just bought the ticket without knowing if I’d actually go. I’d always stayed in touch with Mick and soon after I bought the ticket he said he was coming to London, so we met up and I flew back to Maui with him. I didn’t even notice the wheels leave the ground. Since then, it’s been great. I’ve even flown in Africa in one of those prop jobs.”

While with Mick in Maui, he persuaded her to get on stage with his local band, gradually coaxing her back into the idea of returning to her musical career.

“Steven Tyler, from Aerosmith, was there. We belted out a few songs and I just thought, ‘This is good...’”

Christine admits that it was performing live that sustained her through her final years before she left Fleetwood Mac.

“When I first left, I didn’t miss it as I was tired of the travelling. The gigs were the only thing that really sustained me.”

And after her long break, being back with her bandmates has given her a new lease of life.

The closing track on the Lindsey Buckingham/ Christine McVie album is called Carnival Begin, written by Christine and with its lyrics of “I want it all... a new merry-go-round” it is clear that she has a strong appetite for change. Fleetwood Mac’s famously colourful previous life, where sex, drugs and rock ’n’ roll made for a potent combination, is now a thing of the past and they are enjoying better personal relationships and new respect from audiences.

“Underlying the band now is a great sense of affection,” reflects Christine.

“We bind together my style, Lindsey’s style and Stevie’s (Nicks) style as songwriters, and it’s a democratic band in that we make sure everyone has the same amount of songs to sing both onstage and on record, although I have to say, it’s Lindsey that really directs the band.”

Next month, Christine and Lindsey are touring the States with the new album and she is looking forward to it after Fleetwood Mac’s triumphant world tour in 2015.

"We had such a great range of ages in the audience, from people who bought our albums the first time around to their children and grandchildren.

“I think we’ve become a hip band to the younger generation. After being seen as middle-of-the-road, we are now fashionable again.”

Christine is now living in London and when she gets back from touring in America she will decorate her new house, which is currently “an empty shell filled with cardboard boxes”.

Who looks after her beloved dogs when she’s away, I ask?

“They passed last year. They were very obliging,” she laughs.

“My other house was for sale. They were 16 and had had a good life. It was sad but things came together at the right time. Everything is for the good in the end.”

The single In My World is out now; the album Lindsey Buckingham/Christine McVie is released on June 9 on Rhino Records.

[aleuzzi]

"...it’s a democratic band ... although I have to say, it’s Lindsey that really directs the band.”

We know this to be true when the band makes new music and arranges old music for new tours. We also know that Mick holds the whole unit together through persistence, endurance, and his personal connections with each member. But in other ways, it appears Stevie has been directing what the band does these days. The mere fact that this album ISN'T being called a Fleetwood Mac album is because of her considerable leverage in the band politics.

For Christine to say what she said suggests that she is primarily focused on the musical end of things.

[lennonfan]

I love that they're making music in a happy frame of mind, they are reflecting where they are as artists today. They could call it Blue Cheese Dressing and I'd still love it....that sound together...Carnival Begin!

[elle]

"...it’s a democratic band ... although I have to say, it’s Lindsey that really directs the band.”

We know this to be true when the band makes new music and arranges old music for new tours. We also know that Mick holds the whole unit together through persistence, endurance, and his personal connections with each member. But in other ways, it appears Stevie has been directing what the band does these days. The mere fact that this album ISN'T being called a Fleetwood Mac album is because of her considerable leverage in the band politics.

For Christine to say what she said suggests that she is primarily focused on the musical end of things.

i thought that was interesting too, that Christine actually said that. at one of the Mick's meet and greets during a recent FM tour, some Stevie fan asked him a similar question, fully expecting he will say Stevie. Mick said Lindsey. and yes, i do think both Mick and Christine meant directing stuff in the studio and on the tour, not who has the most outwardly commercial pull.

[dreamsunwind]

i thought that was interesting too, that Christine actually said that. at one of the Mick's meet and greets during a recent FM tour, some Stevie fan asked him a similar question, fully expecting he will say Stevie. Mick said Lindsey. and yes, i do think both Mick and Christine meant directing stuff in the studio and on the tour, not who has the most outwardly commercial pull.

wasn't that how it always was? lindsey's the musical director. i remember i read a stevie interview from a few years ago, i think elle 2013, while they were on tour and she said how she's happy he does all that kind of stuff because she doesn't like doing it. that's why in her solo career she has waddy as musical director.

[elle]

wasn't that how it always was? lindsey's the musical director.
yeah pretty sure that's the case. i think it extends beyond just musical.

[michelej1]

i thought that was interesting too, that Christine actually said that. at one of the Mick's meet and greets during a recent FM tour, some Stevie fan asked him a similar question, fully expecting he will say Stevie. Mick said Lindsey. and yes, i do think both Mick and Christine meant directing stuff in the studio and on the tour, not who has the most outwardly commercial pull.

They've always said this. Stevie said that Lindsey ruled the band and for her it was the "back of the bus." Christine once said that they all formed a bed for Lindsey to roll around on and do whatever he wanted during The Dance tour. Stevie is not happy that Lindsey still has this influence over the band on stage and in the studio, but if he didn't, who would? She can't substitute for him in those regards.

Michele

[elle]

its interesting to dechipher in that video which parts were filmed back in 2014 when they still assumed they are making a FM album and which parts were filmed mid 2016 and finally duriing the wrap up sessions in late 2016 when they finally decided they are going to release it as a "duet" album. "nice first day" i would assume had to be back in 2014, for example.

[TrueFaith77]

its interesting to dechipher in that video which parts were filmed back in 2014 when they still assumed they are making a FM album and which parts were filmed mid 2016 and finally duriing the wrap up sessions in late 2016 when they finally decided they are going to release it as a "duet" album. "nice first day" i would assume had to be back in 2014, for example.

I assumed it was first day in the Tusk studio which was only during winter 2016.

[elle]

I assumed it was first day in the Tusk studio which was only during winter 2016.
no, first day in Tusk studio was in April 2014.

i think in some scenes Cristine is even wearing that hear clip she was wearing when she first rejoined.

[TrueFaith77]

no, first day in Tusk studio was in April 2014.

i think in some scenes Cristine is even wearing that hear clip she was wearing when she first rejoined.

Is that right? Wow. So many years in the making!

[elle]

Is that right? Wow. So many years in the making!
right?! i'm too lazy to go search for interviews at the time or through threads here, but there were social media posts that Christine came to the US in spring 2014 for rehersals (i meant hair clip not hear clip in my post above :lol:), and then many other artists or studio people kept reporting on social media that Fleetwood Mac is at the Village recording new music together.

then about a month later Dave Stewart posted that carnival's moving to Nashville or something to that effect and we all specualted SN will record her contribuions (or at least demo them) separately from LB and CM recording their stuff, but that SN's recordings are still for FM album. everyone was excited that things were finally moving since those recordings were sitting since 2012.

and then one of our own members went to some book signing with Mick and asked him about the new album, and that was the first time we've heard that SN went to Nashville to record her solo stuff, not FM. now with the Carnival Begin and fragmented videos patched together in the Making Of doc, i just have to wonder whether SN was maybe considering joining them, but something irked her (like Lindsey and Christine working closely together irked her in the past, but one would think she long outgrew those feelings) and she decided she wants to have nothing to do with their project.... and then exactly like npow they are saying BuckVie tunes were always gonna be a duet and not FM, maybe at the time made up that whole story about "label obligation" that SN just found out about and had to fulfill right after FM rented the Village studio to work on new music together. :shrug:

[TrueFaith77]

It does raise the question, what 3, 4 or 5 24K songs would one have wanted the Mac to record for the album?

Off the top of my head I would have considered: 24KG, All the Beautiful Worlds, Watch Chain, Blue Water, She Loves Him Still

Mabel Normand is my favorite, but I'm not sure that's right for the Mac.

:angel:

[BLY]

I always thought All The Beautiful Worlds would have been a fantastic Fleetwood Mac song with very little if any tweaking. (Except having Lindsey and Christine singing back up of course) It would have fit well with what I'm hearing from the Buck/McVie album.