Duet vs duo

[elle]

i keep reading these comments, and not from casual fans or lay peeps, but from hardcore fans here who should know better! seriously people?? you thought this album was gonna be duets?? since when FM do duets? was BN a duet album?? or an album by a duo?

since the first time i read that one article that was titled LB and CM to release a duets album, i just knew general public will becompletely confused by that stupid title. and by LB's weird expressions (burning the bridges anyone?). but people here?? seriously?!?!?!? did you REALLY though you will get duets?

what i still hope is that we will get a few songs like TAM or Hold Me where LB and CM trade lines. but did i think that was gonna be on EVERY song? when there are only 4 FM songs where they do that even though they have a few more cowrites? of course not!

[HomerMcvie]

I think they only called it duets to point out the you know who was absent. You know, Fleetwood Mac without her is STILL Fleetwood Mac. :mad:

[JimSATX]

I wasn't expecting an album of all duets, but I did hope to hear a LOT more harmonies than what we've heard so far. So far, it seems we've heard two Lindsey solo tracks, and one Christine solo track. I'm getting the feeling this album will probably be just five Lindsey solo tracks and five Christine solo tracks slapped together to make an album. I was thinking we'd hear a lot more of them all over the chorus, with background vocals at least, on each other's songs. I'm pretty disappointed so far.

[TrueFaith77]

elle is right

still wish there was more Christine on the harmonies, though

[button-lip]

I think they only called it duets to point out the you know who was absent. You know, Fleetwood Mac without her is STILL Fleetwood Mac. :mad:

I also think that was the reason. They needed to point out that it was NOT a FM album. I guess to explain you're doing a duets album with two musicians who are not in fact doing any song together is a bit long. :lol:

[SisterNightroad]

I actually don't remember them ever saying that this was going to be an album of duets, but a they did refer to it once or twice as a duet album (The body of work felt like it was meant to be a duet album.) which can have a different meaning; however I still think that Christine is scandalously underused at least in these songs we heard, maybe the rest of the album it's different but in that case choosing to release as first tracks that showcase Christine the least would be a criminally wrong marketing strategy.

[bombaysaffires]

I actually don't remember them ever saying that this was going to be an album of duets, but a they did refer to it once or twice as a duet album (The body of work felt like it was meant to be a duet album.) which can have a different meaning; however I still think that Christine is scandalously underused at least in these songs we heard, maybe the rest of the album it's different but in that case choosing to release as first tracks that showcase Christine the least would be a criminally wrong marketing strategy.

They are to blame for the word "duet" being used at all.... because both of them have used it. Didn't she even use the word on Jools Holland??

They are a duo.... or at least that's the word that reflects their intention.

The songs are most definitely NOT duets, based on the 3 we've heard so far. I'd go so far as to say they don't sound like they are a duo either-- a term that implies collaboration.

And so far it all sounds very Lindsey solo album, musically and otherwise.

I don't hear ANY musical influence of Christine at all. Her scribbling some lyrics to one of his musical tracks, even if she sings the lead vocal, is NOT hearing her influence/style. :mad:

[Macfan4life]

I think they only called it duets to point out the you know who was absent. You know, Fleetwood Mac without her is STILL Fleetwood Mac. :mad:
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[MikeInNV]

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Doesn't billing themselves as Buckingham/McVie already point out that you-know-who is absent?

[jwd]

i keep reading these comments, and not from casual fans or lay peeps, but from hardcore fans here who should know better! seriously people?? you thought this album was gonna be duets?? since when FM do duets? was BN a duet album?? or an album by a duo?

since the first time i read that one article that was titled LB and CM to release a duets album, i just knew general public will becompletely confused by that stupid title. and by LB's weird expressions (burning the bridges anyone?). but people here?? seriously?!?!?!? did you REALLY though you will get duets?

what i still hope is that we will get a few songs like TAM or Hold Me where LB and CM trade lines. but did i think that was gonna be on EVERY song? when there are only 4 FM songs where they do that even though they have a few more cowrites? of course not!


THANKS for stating that! I never got the sentiment that Lindsey and Christine were going to sing and be proliferate on each others' tracks. And was kind of puzzled as to why so many people were bummed that Chris wasn't heard on Lindsey's song(s)? :shrug:

[bwboy]

They are to blame for the word "duet" being used at all.... because both of them have used it. Didn't she even use the word on Jools Holland??

They are a duo.... or at least that's the word that reflects their intention.

The songs are most definitely NOT duets, based on the 3 we've heard so far. I'd go so far as to say they don't sound like they are a duo either-- a term that implies collaboration.

And so far it all sounds very Lindsey solo album, musically and otherwise.

I don't hear ANY musical influence of Christine at all. Her scribbling some lyrics to one of his musical tracks, even if she sings the lead vocal, is NOT hearing her influence/style. :mad:

I agree with everything you said, especially the part about the three songs sounding like a LB solo outing. And I did expect at least a few duets in the vein of Hold Me, and I'm confused why they didn't. Christine dueted with Billy on Do You Know and Stevie dueted with Rick on Love is Dangerous. Hmmm...

[elle]

THANKS for stating that! I never got the sentiment that Lindsey and Christine were going to sing and be proliferate on each others' tracks. And was kind of puzzled as to why so many people were bummed that Chris wasn't heard on Lindsey's song(s)? :shrug:

Many people seem to be looking for something to hate re buckvie. I find some complaints funny and sad at the same time.
That said - as somebody already called me on it - pot kettle in my case. At the time of SWS I thought SATC is way too light of a song for LB and that one sounds almost heavy compared to other 2 they released.

[bombaysaffires]

Many people seem to be looking for something to hate re buckvie. I find some complaints funny and sad at the same time.
That said - as somebody already called me on it - pot kettle in my case. At the time of SWS I thought SATC is way too light of a song for LB and that one sounds almost heavy compared to other 2 they released.

au contraire -- some of us are looking for something to LIKE and even, daggone it, LOVE about this. I find the fact that we haven't gotten anything to fill that bill (yes, my opinion) is what is sad and disappointing. I mean, it's them, and I'll be buying it and I already have seats for the tour.....but......it needs to be better than 24k Gold dreck, and so far..........:eek: :wavey:

[SteveMacD]

I agree with everything you said, especially the part about the three songs sounding like a LB solo outing. And I did expect at least a few duets in the vein of Hold Me, and I'm confused why they didn't. Christine dueted with Billy on Do You Know and Stevie dueted with Rick on Love is Dangerous. Hmmm...
Not to mention that Billy and Rick dueted with each other on When The Sun Goes Down.

[SteveMacD]

I think Lindsey's songs could feature more definitive audible contributions from Christine. While I don't hate the songs, I don't love them, but they work well when played together.

[bwboy]

Many people seem to be looking for something to hate re buckvie. I find some complaints funny and sad at the same time.
That said - as somebody already called me on it - pot kettle in my case. At the time of SWS I thought SATC is way too light of a song for LB and that one sounds almost heavy compared to other 2 they released.

Sometimes, like you said, people will look for something to hate. There are also people who will love something just because they love the artist so much. More often, I think most people just like or dislike a song or songs simply because of the songs themselves.

[Macfan4life]

Many people seem to be looking for something to hate re buckvie. I find some complaints funny and sad at the same time.
That said - as somebody already called me on it - pot kettle in my case. At the time of SWS I thought SATC is way too light of a song for LB and that one sounds almost heavy compared to other 2 they released.
Exactly. Amen!
I have to laugh when I read the posts the songs sound too much like a Lindsey solo album. Isn't the album really almost a Lindsey solo album? The songs sound much more like Fleetwood Mac than many songs on Tango or Tusk.
Just could not help to agree with you. You cannot judge an album by the first single. The better and more creative songs are always in between the radio friendly singles. To hear these 3 songs we have heard in the context of a brand new album is going to be out of this world.

[vivfox]

Many people seem to be looking for something to hate re buckvie. I find some complaints funny and sad at the same time.
That said - as somebody already called me on it - pot kettle in my case. .
Off in e mail land I commented to Skip how sad it was for you that you did not like the first 2 singles. Reminds me of being so disappointed in most of SN's TISL when it came out after such a long wait for new music. As fans we really need to love our artist's new songs, you know?

au contraire -- some of us are looking for something to LIKE and even, daggone it, LOVE about this. I find the fact that we haven't gotten anything to fill that bill (yes, my opinion) is what is sad and disappointing. I mean, it's them, and I'll be buying it and I already have seats for the tour.....but......it needs to be better than 24k Gold dreck, and so far.......

I agree with you more than her statement. Most of us really want to Love these songs, IMO also.

[elle]

Off in e mail land I commented to Skip how sad it was for you that you did not like the first 2 singles. Reminds me of being so disappointed in most of SN's TISL when it came out after such a long wait for new music. As fans we really need to love our artist's new songs, you know?


I agree with you more than her statement. Most of us really want to Love these songs, IMO also.
aww that's very sweet of you, although completely unnecessary! :)

i'll admit that i'm [somewhat] dissaapointed with what we heard so far but cynical realist in me expected this may happen. i did know that these songs he was writing starting in 2012 were "fleetwood mac-y" as he said, and not anything like his solo songs. but this is much much more light pop than fleetwood macy can be. considering these songs started from the same 2012 sessions, i expected them to be more like Sad Angel instead of much lighter than Miss Fantasy. but i'll live! :lol: :wavey:

in fact, before Seeds We Sow came out i was kinda feeling as you describe, in line with your statement "after such a long wait for new music. As fans we really need to love our artist's new songs" - which i actually understand but completely disagree with. before Seeds came out i did feel that he has lost his ability to write a great hook after the 90s and all those fantastic GOS1 songs. early 2000s he was writing some songs with verses that i loved but choruses that i absoilutely hated (musically) and couldn't stand. or boring hooks like Love Runs Deeper, in line but still much better than IMW is. but then Seeds came out, with its truckloads of songs with great and interesting hooks, and after that i'll never anymore worry about his ability to write a great song. he's just using "different sides of his pallette" (for lack of a better expression) in different projects. This is 40 is absolutely different from Seeds stuff, and both of those are completely different from this new music coming out. so i'll be always looking in anticipation for his next music and next steps he does, and there's absolutely no need for me to love everything he throws out! :cool: :thumbsup:

when and if i don't like Lindsey's new songs, there are plenty of other bands, artists and newly released songs out there that i do love. they don't have to be Lindsey's.

[aleuzzi]

I am happy to have new music. I'm not concerned or disappointed by the quality of the songs themselves. I AM annoyed that Christine doesn't audibly surface on LB's tunes, suggesting that they were finished before her involvement and never returned to again. How hard would it have been to layer in her harmonies? She has a world-class voice and harmonizes very well with Lindsey. Why not exploit that here?

[michelej1]

Exactly. Amen!
I have to laugh when I read the posts the songs sound too much like a Lindsey solo album. Isn't the album really almost a Lindsey solo album? The songs sound much more like Fleetwood Mac than many songs on Tango or Tusk.
Just could not help to agree with you. You cannot judge an album by the first single. The better and more creative songs are always in between the radio friendly singles. To hear these 3 songs we have heard in the context of a brand new album is going to be out of this world.

I think back to getting the three songs from Under the Skin. For my money, Show You How was the best song on the album. But the other two: CAD and It Was You ... they weren't chosen as singles because they were best.

I wish they had not released any singles. I find it annoying.

Michele

[vivfox]

This entire thread has been on my mind a lot the past 24 hours. Yes I too was expecting more of a duet album completely forgetting that this is not how these people write their songs. Remembering back to a review when the Tusk album was new and the writer said that the album sounded more like a SN solo album, a CM solo album and a LB solo album than a group album.

Still, I am always hoping when these 2 or 3 people work together they will lay their beautiful harmonies over each other's tracks.

[ViscountViktor]

I never expected a duets album although thinking about it, it would be hilarious.

I just expected more Christine on Lindsey's songs - a group effort. But you know, this is Lindsey, and he has to do everything himself.

[WatchChain]

I never for one minute assumed that the Buckingham McVie album would contain any "duets".

I also still am finding the following obvious statements very odd:

1) An album by Mick Fleetwood, John McVie, Lindsey Buckingham and Stevie Nicks IS called "Fleetwood Mac".

2) A potential album by Mick Fleetwood, John McVie, Lindsey Buckingham, and Christine McVie could NOT be called "Fleetwood Mac".

I'm sure this topic has been beat to death, but I'm just sayin'.

[lilyfee]

Still, I am always hoping when these 2 or 3 people work together they will lay their beautiful harmonies over each other's tracks.

Right. That is their biggest strength, and I'm so puzzled at how Buckingham McVie doesn't seem to play that up at all.:shrug:

[michelej1]

I never for one minute assumed that the Buckingham McVie album would contain any "duets".



Yes, I wasn't thinking to myself, "Oh wow. This will be like I Got You Babe all over again."

I mean, Stevie, Christine and Lindsey were a trio, but they weren't the Kingston Trio. There were always three lead singers on different tunes on their albums.

Michele