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sara79
05-10-2017, 10:43 PM
http://ilikeyouroldstuff.com/blog/hear-another-track-from-the-buckingham-mcvie-record
Hope this works - not too good at inserting hyperlinks.
KenshiMaster16
05-10-2017, 10:57 PM
Soundcloud link doesn't work in the U.S. but thanks regardless.
Andyleo
05-10-2017, 11:02 PM
Thankyou, very interesting song. I'd never heard the bonus solo version released in the US, so was awesome to finally hear it.
justcrazylove
05-11-2017, 12:17 AM
Very ****ing cool, so a few new percussion parts, the bass is more prominent, and Chris is singing a low harmony on this I think? It's also been mixed differently and a new bridge. :blob1:
Jondalar
05-11-2017, 02:51 AM
Link doesn't work.
TrueFaith77
05-11-2017, 06:51 AM
Not available in US but I'm sure it will drop soon. Exciting!!!
Andyleo
05-11-2017, 07:04 AM
Not available in US but I'm sure it will drop soon. Exciting!!!
It says the song will be available everywhere for download on the 13th May.
jbrownsjr
05-11-2017, 07:46 AM
Getting excited!!! I can't hear it yet, though.
jbrownsjr
05-11-2017, 08:12 AM
http://ew.com/music/2017/05/11/fleetwood-mac-christine-mcvie-lindsey-buckingham-new-song/
tango87
05-11-2017, 08:14 AM
http://ew.com/music/2017/05/11/fleetwood-mac-christine-mcvie-lindsey-buckingham-new-song/
Yes! This one plays in the UK too. I love it, what a great song.
A mini-interview with this one too:
They’ve been part of one of rock and roll’s greatest bands for five decades, but for the first time ever, Fleetwood Mac’s Lindsey Buckingham and Christine McVie are finally teaming together for a collaborative album.
The record, titled simply Lindsey Buckingham/Christine McVie, is due out on June 9, and EW is premiering the album’s lead-off track, “Sleeping Around the Corner.”
Buckingham and McVie began working on the album’s material three years ago, ahead of the group’s On With the Show tour, which found McVie rejoining the group after a 16-year-long break.
“We thought we’d go into the studio to reacquint myself to playing in a rock band and getting the chemistry and the vibe,” says McVie. “We thought we’d lay down a couple of tracks; that’s all we meant to do. And then Lindsey had some [songs]. And we just started having a good time.”
To finish the material, Buckingham and McVie met with bandmates Mick Fleetwood and John McVie in Los Angeles’ Village Studios, where the Mac recorded 1979’s Tusk. “Nothing much had changed [in the studio] as far as I can remember,” says McVie. “The Tusk days are a bit of a haze, to be honest. But everything seemed exactly the same.” Adds Buckingham, “It was like a time warp. It was cool!”
The resulting collection features lovely, McVie-led ballads like “Game of Pretend” and bright, chiming rockers like “On With the Show.” Buckingham and McVie are perhaps most psyched about “Sleeping Around the Corner,” which Buckingham began writing about four years ago. “[When Christine heard it], she was like ‘It’s a hit!'” says Buckingham. “And who am I to disagree?”
On June 21, Buckingham and McVie will launch a 14-date tour of theaters and amphitheaters. Then, Fleetwood Mac will reconvene for The Classic West and The Classic East festivals in Los Angeles and New York City on July 15 and July 29, respectively. Of gearing up for those festival dates, where the band will perform alongside veteran acts like Steely Dan, Eagles, Journey, and more, McVie says, “I’m really looking forward to the festivals. It’s not that long since we finished our big tour. We’ve got five days of rehearsals prior to those shows. And that should be a really fun experience.”
tango87
05-11-2017, 08:19 AM
Interesting Mac references:
'We made sweet love Over and Over...'
'I'm your little Red Rover...'
plus one of Lindsey's nods to the Rolling Stones (Gimme Shelter, in this case):
'I'm just a kiss away...'
Love this song.
SisterNightroad
05-11-2017, 08:22 AM
Thankfully this one I like properly, even if it's not really new material.
Also good to hear that they seem to look forward to the Festivals, after getting a fill of their different projects they all may be more motivated to reunite again.
Josh2003
05-11-2017, 08:25 AM
I'm glad it sounds like newer vocals from LB than the previous version, and the addition of a new bridge is nice. But again...where is Christine? What a disappointment this album is going to be if this ends up being the case on all of Lindsey's songs.
jbrownsjr
05-11-2017, 08:54 AM
Gonna guess Elle will love this. I'm not crazy about it. Christine loves it.
I disagree w/ Christine.. :eek::eek:
Can't wait to hear the whole album in context.
Peestie
05-11-2017, 09:36 AM
It's weird to hear the changes after listening to the solo version for ages. Some notes/thoughts:
-It's faster than the original. At the minute it feels *too* fast, but maybe people who hear this version first with think the original is too slow.
-The lead vocal is definitely different
-Other elements have definitely been rerecorded. This isn't just opening up an old demo and sticking on Christine/Mick/John.
-The bridge is really jarring but I'm sure I'll get used to it being there.
-It's still a great song that deserves to be heard more widely than the bonus track was.
AnthonyMI
05-11-2017, 09:55 AM
Having NEVER heard the original...
It has hints of the same beat from the opening track of Rumours.
I also hear high harmony parts that are fillers for a missing Stevie just like in She smiled Sweetly and a few other LB solo tracks. Stevie would have been great on this with sped up vocals to get her pitch higher.
I don't hear Christine but then again I'm listening on my iPhone.
It has a best to tap my foot too, a catchy hook, and doesn't hurt my ears.
The ONLY thing I don't like is Lindsay's somewhat labored and frog croaking in the opening.
James89
05-11-2017, 10:20 AM
By a country mile the best song so far released from the album. I really like it.
JimSATX
05-11-2017, 10:23 AM
I do like it better than the first two tracks released....but again, it just sounds like a Lindsey solo track. I don't even really hear Christine on the chorus. And I think the chorus would have sounded better with some Stevie vocals on it, sorry!
Having NEVER heard the original...
It has hints of the same beat from the opening track of Rumours.
I also hear high harmony parts that are fillers for a missing Stevie just like in She smiled Sweetly and a few other LB solo tracks. Stevie would have been great on this with sped up vocals to get her pitch higher.
I don't hear Christine but then again I'm listening on my iPhone.
It has a best to tap my foot too, a catchy hook, and doesn't hurt my ears.
The ONLY thing I don't like is Lindsay's somewhat labored and frog croaking in the opening.
Yeah, I sort of feel the same. I can't say that I hate it, but I can say that's it's just OK for me. I can say that's it's definitely a toe tapper. :nod:
Lee :)
ryan4136
05-11-2017, 11:05 AM
Best of the songs to drop so far. I had not heard it before.
Additional thoughts
1). This would've been stronger with more John and Mic. With a rhythm arrangement more like YMLF it would've felt very MAC.
2) I would've like it a tick faster.
Still the best of the batch so far...to me.
ryan4136
05-11-2017, 11:08 AM
I do like it better than the first two tracks released....but again, it just sounds like a Lindsey solo track. I don't even really hear Christine on the chorus. And I think the chorus would have sounded better with some Stevie vocals on it, sorry!
I agree but damn this could've been a spot on Mac hit if it had all five members and was arranged to showcase them. This is the first MAC sounding song from LB since GOS album in my opinion.
TrueFaith77
05-11-2017, 11:42 AM
This was always one of my top 3 SWS songs (along with SWS (electric) and the sublime When She Comes Down), so I'm glad to hear it revamped and with its proper place opening an album. I like that someone compared it to SHN. I think that's appropriate. Stevie has robbed us of a real Mac masterpiece album.
The first three tracks sound perfect together. I also wish there was more Christine presence in tracks 2 and/or 3. I agree that the songs seem more designed for Stevie to join in, but some Christine "ooohs and aaahs" would have been welcome.
I'm not a keen enough listener to tell if there is a difference in the rhythm section(?) other than the additional percussive instruments (that seem to bop up all over my head phones) which may be Mick or Lindsey(?).
I like the new bridge.
I like the momentum.
I am curious though. I have ideas about what the SONG means, but what does the phrase "sleeping around the corner" mean? Like, literally he's saying: "I'm here for you. If you need me I'm just sleeping around the corner."
Why sleeping? Why around the corner? Like, just that phrase: what does it mean?
--
In terms of interpretation of the SONG, I read it as about Lindsey balancing artistic (dream) activity with family responsibility and dependency and love.
?:)
Kubrick2788
05-11-2017, 12:58 PM
Having not been a fan of the first two songs, this was a little different. I think that this is the closest thing musically to a FM track in some time from any of the members. But then there are the lyrics. They just seem silly at times. I can listen to this one in the background and probably end up humming along. The chorus needs better verses. If this had some more prominent Christine involvement, I'd be hopeful about the album. Still skeptical this is going to be what people want it to be. Couldn't compare this to the solo version as I gave up on listening to Lindsey solo a while ago. The first couple lines of this song are the exact reason why I did that. At least that ends quickly.
jkmaletic
05-11-2017, 01:51 PM
My opinion - the music itself is very "ok". Vocals are weird, but I expect that with Lindsey. It's not horrible, like the second single was. I guess I just expect more, given the experience these guys have. Again, where is Christine?
With all due respect to Stevie, I don't think she could've added anything to any of these songs so far.
Jamie
blinker12
05-11-2017, 02:42 PM
This one I like a lot. Hooray!
It's got more complexity than the first two, and it's catchy without being cloying.
Frankenstein
05-11-2017, 02:54 PM
I definitely dig this one more than the first two songs.
ViscountViktor
05-11-2017, 04:55 PM
I think that's Christine singing harmony at 0:26 & 2:36. Correct me if I'm wrong. But of course, I'd love more of her in this. Come on Lindsey.
First impressions, I love the variety of textures in this, different sounds coming in for the chorus and being stripped back for the verse - love Lindsey's vocal and the disjointed effect in the verses.
Really powerful chorus as well sonically - a lot of sound coming out to you - lots of percussion and guitars, and the vocal line is almost anthemic and very modern.
Up to the standard of In My World.
WayOfTheDragon
05-11-2017, 05:28 PM
Looking forward to hearing this one in concert.
button-lip
05-11-2017, 06:47 PM
The best song so far! Traces of TITN and Mirage here and there. Can't wait to hear it live! :blob1::blob1:
Murrow
05-11-2017, 07:09 PM
Interesting Mac references:
'We made sweet love Over and Over...'
'I'm your little Red Rover...'
plus one of Lindsey's nods to the Rolling Stones (Gimme Shelter, in this case):
'I'm just a kiss away...'
Love this song.
Also she calls him her "sweet darling" - echoes of "Think of me sweet darling every time you're feeling sad" etc from Come.
sands of time
05-11-2017, 09:13 PM
What's up with the percussion flub at 0:14? Very annoying.
dreamsunwind
05-11-2017, 09:51 PM
I can say that's it's definitely a toe tapper. :nod:
This is exactly how I'd describe it. Very toe-tapping indeed. I still don't like his penchant for weird vocals but it is pretty catchy.
Loving this one...
I do hear a female voice in the mix there over the choruses. I keep listening to it over and over and I think it just might be Christine but low in the mix.
Or am I hearing things?
FMM2
aleuzzi
05-11-2017, 10:18 PM
It's a bright, upbeat piece. Not terribly distinctive, but pleasant.
As others already mentioned, it would have been MILES better with actual participation from Christine.
I am happy to have new music forthcoming, but am annoyed and disappointed that we appear to have waited three years for essentially five collaborative songs. All the press and all the interviews and hoopla suggested a more substantial pairing with these artists. It would not have been difficult to pay even minimum lip-service to this concept by layering in some Christine harmonies on the pre-recorded Lindsey material. So yeah, big WTF moment with all of this.
However, so far, the songs are very good as individual songs.
It's weird to hear the changes after listening to the solo version for ages. Some notes/thoughts:
-It's faster than the original. At the minute it feels *too* fast, but maybe people who hear this version first with think the original is too slow.
-The lead vocal is definitely different
-Other elements have definitely been rerecorded. This isn't just opening up an old demo and sticking on Christine/Mick/John.
-The bridge is really jarring but I'm sure I'll get used to it being there.
-It's still a great song that deserves to be heard more widely than the bonus track was.
like you are reading my thoughts - exactly, all of this when i first heard it.
except too fast, i remember the original solo as a bit slow when i first heard it. i also thougt it's way too poppy for LB solo, and it was - that's why it didn't fit on SWS at all. but i just really loved the song even though some of the lazy lyrics annoyed me. still love it. love that his vocals are normal and not sped up or processed.
secondhandchain
05-11-2017, 11:04 PM
I just listened to all three songs back to back in the car and boy do they sound great together in context. Really good.
secondhandchain
05-11-2017, 11:06 PM
I'm pretty sure Christine is playing in the new bridge.
The Juggler
05-12-2017, 12:34 AM
:shrug:
I'm very disappointed in all the songs I've heard so far. In My World is passable but the newest two...they sound so stale. I'm not sure why. Say You Will still sounds fresh to me, so I'm not sure if it's a production issue but these are really poor tracks.
secondhandchain
05-12-2017, 12:45 AM
:shrug:
I'm very disappointed in all the songs I've heard so far. In My World is passable but the newest two...they sound so stale. I'm not sure why. Say You Will still sounds fresh to me, so I'm not sure if it's a production issue but these are really poor tracks.
Say you will was not that great sorry. Sleeping around the Corner is not stale sounding it's very catchy and has a lot of energy.
BombaySapphire3
05-12-2017, 12:51 AM
:shrug:
I'm very disappointed in all the songs I've heard so far. In My World is passable but the newest two...they sound so stale. I'm not sure why. Say You Will still sounds fresh to me, so I'm not sure if it's a production issue but these are really poor tracks.
I agree a huge disappointment from what I was expecting .In My World is listenable Feel About You is an embarrassment across the boards.
Jondalar
05-12-2017, 03:34 AM
Although this song sounds totally original and new, it's blah. Not really a fan of it. Totally forgettable.
The Buckingham McVie album is sounding very much like a Buckingham solo album with Christine guesting on some tracks. However, I very much like Lindsey's recent solo albums in particular, so for me this is a good thing.
Though, if this is what Lindsey wanted to do, then I could imagine how Stevie wouldn't want to be involved. I don't think she wants her songs done Lindsey solo-album style.
Playing 'In the Meantime' now. I'll play 'Seeds We Sow' next.
hausermd
05-12-2017, 06:40 AM
What's up with the percussion flub at 0:14? Very annoying.
That is irritating, not sure why that wasn't fixed.
hausermd
05-12-2017, 06:41 AM
Loving this one...
I do hear a female voice in the mix there over the choruses. I keep listening to it over and over and I think it just might be Christine but low in the mix.
Or am I hearing things?
FMM2
I do too, but I also hear a female voice on the SWS version.
TrueFaith77
05-12-2017, 07:05 AM
The Buckingham McVie album is sounding very much like a Buckingham solo album with Christine guesting on some tracks.
Uh-oh. Get ready for a smack down. :lol:
I actually agree and also don't mind either.
Anyway, I wish someone could explain what it means to be sleeping around the corner...? What is that?
I'm just doing yoga in the next room.
I'm just washing in the shower.
I'm just driving in the car.
I'm just shopping in the mall.
What is the significance?
Also what is the meaning of corner? Like, in the room around the corner or in the house around the corner?
Maybe it's about Stevie!
The Buckingham McVie album is sounding very much like a Buckingham solo album with Christine guesting on some tracks. However, I very much like Lindsey's recent solo albums in particular, so for me this is a good thing.
Though, if this is what Lindsey wanted to do, then I could imagine how Stevie wouldn't want to be involved. I don't think she wants her songs done Lindsey solo-album style.
Playing 'In the Meantime' now. I'll play 'Seeds We Sow' next.
This release won't be any different than any other Fleetwood Mac album with Buckingham/McVie. Some songs will share more prominent duo vocals and some won't. Let's remember the albums title only reflects no Stevie. It's a MAC album.
Feather Blade
05-12-2017, 08:47 AM
Hmm...not a fan so far. I agree with the person who said that they have liked each track successively less. Perhaps it will grow on me, but I'm not holding my breath.
Say You Will
05-12-2017, 08:58 AM
Stevie has robbed us of a real Mac masterpiece album.
People are saying the songs would be better with Stevie as if it was their choice to keep her off. It was her choice not Lindsey's or Christine's.
This would have been a great FM album with her.
Very dissapointed.
BombaySapphire3
05-12-2017, 09:25 AM
Stevie has robbed us of a real Mac masterpiece album.
People are saying the songs would be better with Stevie as if it was their choice to keep her off. It was her choice not Lindsey's or Christine's.
This would have been a great FM album with her.
Very dissapointed.
Whether she bailed on the album after hearing some of the songs or her usual aversion to working with Lindsey in the studio it is one of the better career decisions that she had made IMO. Judging by what has been released at this point it would have been the worst album by the Rumours five .
jkmaletic
05-12-2017, 09:41 AM
Stevie has robbed us of a real Mac masterpiece album.
People are saying the songs would be better with Stevie as if it was their choice to keep her off. It was her choice not Lindsey's or Christine's.
This would have been a great FM album with her.
Very dissapointed.
Don't agree at all. Trying to imagine her singing on these songs, I can't see anything sounding much different. The music and lyrics would be the same. :shrug:
I wonder if Stevie heard any of these songs/demos back when they were first working on them?
Jamie
Say You Will
05-12-2017, 09:46 AM
[QUOTE=BombaySapphire3;1209442]Whether she bailed on the album after hearing some of the songs or her usual aversion to working with Lindsey in the studio it is one of the better career decisions that she had made IMO.
I respect your opinion. Just an old Geezer weighing in.:woohoo:
wheart
05-12-2017, 09:51 AM
I like the song a lot because,for the most part, I like Lindsey's songs. Like In My World, Christine is nowhere to be found which is disappointing. However, just because she's not singing on it doesn't mean her influence is not there. I never heard the original version of this song so I can't compare the two and judge how much of a Christine effect there is, if any. It would have been really nice, thought, to hear Christine's voice somewhere in this song.
jkmaletic
05-12-2017, 09:58 AM
Whether she bailed on the album after hearing some of the songs or her usual aversion to working with Lindsey in the studio it is one of the better career decisions that she had made IMO. Judging by what has been released at this point it would have been the worst album by the Rumours five .
Yes. I have to agree on this. I'm still holding out hope that there will be some better songs on this album though. We'll see.
nicepace
05-12-2017, 10:02 AM
Isn't that Christine doing the weird wo-wo-wo's in the background about three times? It doesn't really sound like her, but it does sound like a woman. And I do hear some very minimalist keyboard playing here and there. So I think she's in there, just not very prominent, which is frustrating.
I like "Feel About You" the best so far but I am primarily a Christine fan, and I'm just delighted to hear her singing on a new song. The other two songs, as people are saying, are sounding mainly like Lindsey solo songs. I like both of them, they're good solid upbeat pop, but I was hoping for more Christine. Let's hope she's more prominent on the rest of the album.
TheWildHeart67
05-12-2017, 10:22 AM
Once again, I cannot hear Christine, unless that is her way back in the background vocal mix.
I was really hoping to hear them harmonizing, as their voices sound great together.
It's really just an underwhelming song, to be honest.
None of the first 3 songs have me really that excited.
Certainly none of them have any hints of a duets type album.
It's a shame none of the first 3 songs prominently showcased their vocals blending together, and some splashy keyboards from Christine with some fabulous guitar from Lindsey.:confused:
It's great they are out there making new music, but I just don't think these are very good songs tbh.
button-lip
05-12-2017, 10:24 AM
Uh-oh. Get ready for a smack down. :lol:
I actually agree and also don't mind either.
Anyway, I wish someone could explain what it means to be sleeping around the corner...? What is that?
I'm just doing yoga in the next room.
I'm just washing in the shower.
I'm just driving in the car.
I'm just shopping in the mall.
What is the significance?
Also what is the meaning of corner? Like, in the room around the corner or in the house around the corner?
Maybe it's about Stevie!
I agree is a Buckingham solo album with Christine as a guest and I also don't mind. :woohoo:
I love all three songs and the best part is that Stevie is not there! Very smart woman! :rolleyes:
Say You Will
05-12-2017, 10:31 AM
I Let's hope she's more prominent on the rest of the album.
Hopefully releasing these songs first so we can look forward to the ones we haven't heard (with her on them).
button-lip
05-12-2017, 10:32 AM
Stevie has robbed us of a real Mac masterpiece album.
People are saying the songs would be better with Stevie as if it was their choice to keep her off. It was her choice not Lindsey's or Christine's.
This would have been a great FM album with her.
Very dissapointed.
We don't know that and we will never know it because she didn't want to be part of it. I love these three songs and I don't care if Stevie is there or not.
It seems she's so smart she knew this was gonna fail, as if we already know as a fact the album is gonna fail just because there's a bunch of Stevie's fans who are waiting for the album to do just that. :rolleyes:
TheWildHeart67
05-12-2017, 10:56 AM
We don't know that and we will never know it because she didn't want to be part of it. I love these three songs and I don't care if Stevie is there or not.
It seems she's so smart she knew this was gonna fail, as if we already know as a fact the album is gonna fail just because there's a bunch of Stevie's fans who are waiting for the album to do just that.
Stevie fans that are hoping or waiting for this project to fail are being silly.
She didn't take part in this project and it was hailed as a duets type project between Chris and Lindsey.
The whole "my dad is better than your dad" mentality is really childish.
If some are not liking the songs because Stevie isn't in the mix, I don't get it.
I personally do not like the new music because I expected more of a collaboration between Chris and Lindsey.
It was being teased as a duets type project, and so far, it doesn't seem to be that.
And I also simply think the songs are pretty weak.
button-lip
05-12-2017, 11:05 AM
Stevie fans that are hoping or waiting for this project to fail are being silly.
She didn't take part in this project and it was hailed as a duets type project between Chris and Lindsey.
The whole "my dad is better than your dad" mentality is really childish.
If some are not liking the songs because Stevie isn't in the mix, I don't get it.
I personally do not like the new music because I expected more of a collaboration between Chris and Lindsey.
It was being teased as a duets type project, and so far, it doesn't seem to be that.
And I also simply think the songs are pretty weak.
It could be childish but I'm reading it a lot in this board.
I also was hoping for a closer collaboration between Lindsey and Christine and I hope the rest of the songs give us that, but so far I'm not complaining. This is better than nothing. I adored TITN and Mirage and this album looks to be that way. We have the same four musicians so I don't know how can this be weak. :shrug:
Certainly none of them have any hints of a duets type album.
It's a shame none of the first 3 songs prominently showcased their vocals blending together, and some splashy keyboards from Christine with some fabulous guitar from Lindsey.
I would swear that Christine and Lindsey harmonize during the chorus of Feel About You -- which is my favorite portion of any of three songs. Am I wrong?
SisterNightroad
05-12-2017, 11:10 AM
I agree about the mentality being childish but actually I really haven't truly seen it openly on this board, apart from a couple of instances in which people were possibly trolling Stevie fans.
button-lip
05-12-2017, 11:15 AM
I would swear that Christine and Lindsey harmonize during the chorus of Feel About You -- which is my favorite portion of any of three songs. Am I wrong?
I also could hear Christine but I'm not so sure either. :shrug:
DreamIsOver
05-12-2017, 12:03 PM
How could a song that has been (presumably) demo-ed, recorded, re-written, and re-recorded still be so undercooked lyrically? Each verse is only two lines long?!?!? And the instrumentation on "Sleeping" - just like the first two songs - is so spare and mannered and sterile it makes the odd percussion overdubs and samples stick out awkwardly even further. And just like the first two songs, the "middle eight" which begs for a guitar solo or something interesting musically to happen just lays there lazily. All that being said, the chorus - musically - is an earworm that I have not been able to shake yet.
It makes me sad that none of these three songs work for me. Lindsey is up there on my personal Mt. Rushmore of my favorite musicians but the songwriting, production, and guitar playing are each lacking in different ways on these tracks IMO.
As for what the phrase "Sleeping around the corner" means, I take it to mean something along the lines of "I'm just around the corner. When you want/need me, you know where to find me."
secondhandchain
05-12-2017, 12:18 PM
When your name is something like "Tambourineshawlcokebutt"...I think it's safe to assume you are a Stevie fan weighing in and hoping it fails. :lol::wavey:
TrueFaith77
05-12-2017, 12:25 PM
As for what the phrase "Sleeping around the corner" means, I take it to mean something along the lines of "I'm just around the corner. When you want/need me, you know where to find me."
I agree. But why sleeping??! He old and taking naps now?
my shallow theory was always that this was about Christine needing to sort out her visa or green card or whatever immigration papers. back in 2011 when we first heard the song, i thought of Christine because
1) the song sounded so Christine-like
2) he pronounces the words like English person would (ie "round" the corner), and uses english phrases such as "give you a frown" - so it must be about someone English.
almost like she's waiting for him to sort out her papers. does not make much sense, but there it is anyway. and once i heard she liked the song and it's coming back, plus that she really did "burn her bridges" and had her green card expire and is having to redo it all now, it kinda brought all those thoughts back. :cool: :lol:
why sleeping - basically "i'm staying here around the corner waiting for you".
in the course of the day yesterday i had to contain a full-out brawl in my LB facebook group where 2 hardcore Lindsey fans got into an ugly name calling wordfight arguing whether these new songs are the greatest thing since the sliced bread or embarassing underuse of Lindsey's tremendous talent.
goes to show you how passionate people are about their music. while i hated the ugliness and personal attacks the argument evolved in (both guys are highly knowledgeable guitarists / musicians, but with obviously very different musical tastes!) and had to delete bunch of posts, it's great that we all have this beautiful distraction in our lives!
TrueFaith77
05-12-2017, 01:06 PM
my shallow theory was always that this was about Christine needing to sort out her visa or green card or whatever immigration papers. back in 2011 when we first heard the song, i thought of Christine because
1) the song sounded so Christine-like
2) he pronounces the words like English person would (ie "round" the corner), and uses english phrases such as "give you a frown" - so it must be about someone English.
Interesting that you hear "English." I hear a lot of "Lawd" and "I's" which strike me as American or Caribbean colloquialism.
Maybe it's a reference to Christine's infamous Halloween attire.
DreamIsOver
05-12-2017, 01:54 PM
I agree. But why sleeping??! He old and taking naps now?
I take "sleeping" as in "wherever I lay my head is home" - so he is staying somewhere nearby.
I take "sleeping" as in "wherever I lay my head is home" - so he is staying somewhere nearby.
yup, except she is the one "sleeping 'round the corner" while he's putting some papers in order. ;)
wheart
05-12-2017, 02:09 PM
How could a song that has been (presumably) demo-ed, recorded, re-written, and re-recorded still be so undercooked lyrically? Each verse is only two lines long?!?!? And the instrumentation on "Sleeping" - just like the first two songs - is so spare and mannered and sterile it makes the odd percussion overdubs and samples stick out awkwardly even further. And just like the first two songs, the "middle eight" which begs for a guitar solo or something interesting musically to happen just lays there lazily. All that being said, the chorus - musically - is an earworm that I have not been able to shake yet.
It makes me sad that none of these three songs work for me. Lindsey is up there on my personal Mt. Rushmore of my favorite musicians but the songwriting, production, and guitar playing are each lacking in different ways on these tracks IMO.
As for what the phrase "Sleeping around the corner" means, I take it to mean something along the lines of "I'm just around the corner. When you want/need me, you know where to find me."
the short verses bother me too. he's appealing to the public's need for instant gratification. Can't wait another 20 seconds for the chorus to kick in. Gotta have it now. Whatever.
TrueFaith77
05-12-2017, 02:25 PM
Interesting that you hear "English." I hear a lot of "Lawd" and "I's" which strike me as American or Caribbean colloquialism.
Maybe it's a reference to Christine's infamous Halloween attire.
Now THAT should have been the cover of the album. :eek: :lol: :mad:
secondhandchain
05-12-2017, 02:33 PM
In the comment section of the EW article about this song it's SO OBVIOUS that people from the Stevie board ran over there and bashed the song. LOL!
just clicked on the twitter link for MP3 amazon and this is what it says -
Amazon Best Sellers Rank: #16 Paid in Songs (See Top 100 Paid in Songs)
#2 in Digital Music > Songs > Rock
https://www.amazon.com/Sleeping-Around-the-Corner/dp/B06XYYV522/ref=pd_zg_rss_nr_dmusic_digital-music-track_10?ie=UTF8&tag=squidoo0cf2-20
i think that's much better than IMW did in its 2nd day, but maybe i'm just blocking anything IMW related. ;)
BombaySapphire3
05-12-2017, 03:56 PM
I respect your opinion. Just an old Geezer weighing in.:woohoo:
Since you live in my hometown I won't let you have it for that one:lol:
bombaysaffires
05-12-2017, 04:15 PM
I hear no Christine on this :mad:
BombaySapphire3
05-12-2017, 04:35 PM
I hear no Christine on this :mad:
I don't believe that she is on either this one or In My World .They sound like kind of insular Lindsey solo songs IMO but still much better than their one collaboration on this one so far.
AnthonyMI
05-12-2017, 04:56 PM
I don't believe that she is on either this one or In My World .They sound like kind of insular Lindsey solo songs IMO but still much better than their one collaboration on this one so far.
i think the second voice on In My World is actually Christine and not LB's voice doubled. If you listen to Hold Me and In My World back to back they sound similar in how their voices blend.
http://ew.com/music/2017/05/11/fleetwood-mac-christine-mcvie-lindsey-buckingham-new-song/
Buckingham and McVie are perhaps most psyched about “Sleeping Around the Corner,” which Buckingham began writing about four years ago. “[When Christine heard it], she was like ‘It’s a hit!'” says Buckingham. “And who am I to disagree?”
They're both more delusional than Stevie. 1987 was a loooong time ago and most of the tracks on Tango In the Night are superior to this one. I don't even think this one had a chance of being a "hit" back then. BUT, I like it.
bombaysaffires
05-12-2017, 10:01 PM
i think the second voice on In My World is actually Christine and not LB's voice doubled. If you listen to Hold Me and In My World back to back they sound similar in how their voices blend.
Hmmm.... I just don't hear it. :shrug:
bombaysaffires
05-12-2017, 10:03 PM
I will say that this one (SAC) has me the most excited to see live. I think it has lots of fun potential live....but it needs more Chris both vocally and instrumentally.
Nathan
05-13-2017, 05:14 AM
I think this is the best one of the three.
I listened to all three songs in order for the first time and think the sequencing really works. I think the Buckingham/McVie vocal will build with each song.
Say You Will
05-13-2017, 09:14 AM
Since you live in my hometown I won't let you have it for that one:lol:
Philly? Yay:thumbsup:
I meant I was the Old Geezer. Saw them in 1978 at JFK with Bob W..
BombaySapphire3
05-13-2017, 11:02 AM
Philly? Yay:thumbsup:
I meant I was the Old Geezer. Saw them in 1978 at JFK with Bob W..
oh yeah wasn't Steve Miller on that bill too?..I 'm a geezer as well..saw them on the Tusk tour so you beat me by a year.
Say You Will
05-13-2017, 11:24 AM
Yes Steve Miller was there too. And someone else I can't remember.
Was a senior in HS when Rumours came out.
I remember that day clearly. I was on the fifty yard line and Lindsey starts to sing but I can't see him because I'm looking for the Afro.
That was after he cut his hair off.:confused:
I was a fan of the afro..:
My rebellious stage I guess
pattyfan
05-13-2017, 01:24 PM
The song is fine. It's kind of catchy and it bops along. But I guess my expectations are doing me in here. When this CD was first announced as a duet CD, I was kind of horrified because I don't think I could listen to a whole CD of duets of anyone. Stop Dragging My Heart Around is great. So is Leather and Lace. And I like I Will Run to You too. World Turning is the closest thing that they have to a duet, and though it's not my favorite song, I like it well enough. But I wouldn't want a whole CD of duets. Then people started saying that it was a duo CD and not a duet CD (see other thread) and I got excited again. I was thinking mostly Hold Me and Don't Stop. But basically this seems to be a Fleetwood Mac CD without Stevie. At least in these first 3 tracks, I hear two Lindsey songs and a Christine song with very little "duo" at all. So I'm going to ratchet down my expectations (easier said than done) and hopefully enjoy this as much as possible when it gets released. There are 7 more songs, right? There have to be at least two or three good songs (he said, trying to convince himself).
:)
Kevin
secondhandchain
05-13-2017, 05:38 PM
This is basically how most FM albums worked. More of a Tango type collaboration minus the nasal nosed Stevie. I'm find with her not being on it.
Hawkeye
05-13-2017, 08:01 PM
Definitely my least favorite of the first 3 songs
Jondalar
05-13-2017, 08:12 PM
It's a nice song but totally forgettable. Of course I'm buying a couple copies of this album but it's a sympathy fuccccckkk. Not expecting much after the three singles.
BombaySapphire3
05-13-2017, 09:03 PM
It's a nice song but totally forgettable. Of course I'm buying a couple copies of this album but it's a sympathy fuccccckkk. Not expecting much after the three singles.
:lol: unless there are some masterpieces yet unheard I will pay for the remainder of the download on Amazon.I am afraid that the critic for MOJO was probably right though in singling out In My World as the best song so not expecting much,
secondhandchain
05-13-2017, 09:34 PM
OMG the Stevie fans keep saying how bad it is. It's not. I think they are very protective of Stevie's decision and want this SO badly to be so bad.
Jondalar
05-13-2017, 09:45 PM
OMG the Stevie fans keep saying how bad it is. It's not. I think they are very protective of Stevie's decision and want this SO badly to be so bad.
I'm not a Stevie fan at this moment and it's her fault they never worked on this album more. The album is probably not going to be bad. It's just probably going to be forgettable.
BombaySapphire3
05-13-2017, 09:54 PM
OMG the Stevie fans keep saying how bad it is. It's not. I think they are very protective of Stevie's decision and want this SO badly to be so bad.
I was very disenchanted with La Nicks for not participating but I refuse to call a piece of sh&t a birthday cake.These songs range from the passable to the abominable .I wish they were better I wanted this album to be good.Also I have been a Fleetwood Mac fan since the 1970s before Bella Donna was even a gleam in the caped crusader's eye.
button-lip
05-13-2017, 10:52 PM
OMG the Stevie fans keep saying how bad it is. It's not. I think they are very protective of Stevie's decision and want this SO badly to be so bad.
Hey, don't say that! When I said it, I was told it was just my imagination. :rolleyes:
For the record, I agree. :)
button-lip
05-13-2017, 10:58 PM
I'm not a Stevie fan at this moment and it's her fault they never worked on this album more. The album is probably not going to be bad. It's just probably going to be forgettable.
The album was probably gonna be the same. Honestly I don't think she could have added much more.
I'm not gonna say I'm happy she didn't participate, but it was her choice and I'm happy with what we have so far. The reasons she didn't participate have nothing to do with the quality of the songs. She's not THAT good, no matter what her fans want to think.
Jondalar
05-14-2017, 12:07 AM
The album was probably gonna be the same. Honestly I don't think she could have added much more.
I'm not gonna say I'm happy she didn't participate, but it was her choice and I'm happy with what we have so far. The reasons she didn't participate have nothing to do with the quality of the songs. She's not THAT good, no matter what her fans want to think.
You're not getting what I'm saying. I'm not talking about what she contributes creatively. I'm saying more production and thought would of went into this album if she were on it. It would of been considered a "real" release, probably the final Fleetwood Mac album. This album sounds a little like an after thought so far. Like they stopped working it and just said let's just release what we have and get it done with.
ricohv
05-14-2017, 01:09 AM
You're not getting what I'm saying. I'm not talking about what she contributes creatively. I'm saying more production and thought would of went into this album if she were on it. It would of been considered a "real" release, probably the final Fleetwood Mac album. This album sounds a little like an after thought so far. Like they stopped working it and just said let's just release what we have and get it done with.
Haven't they been tinkering & working on this & polishing it up for 4 years now? Didn't Mick lead us to believe that they had a practical masterpiece on their hands; music that was too good to go unheard? I think they were done working on it, and if Stevie would have participated they would have just added her vocals to those songs & produced three of hers. JMHO.
*Ricoh*
BombaySapphire3
05-14-2017, 09:36 AM
Haven't they been tinkering & working on this & polishing it up for 4 years now? Didn't Mick lead us to believe that they had a practical masterpiece on their hands; music that was too good to go unheard? I think they were done working on it, and if Stevie would have participated they would have just added her vocals to those songs & produced three of hers. JMHO.
*Ricoh*
Exactly..since when did Stevie have a major hand in the production of a Fleetwood Mac album :shrug:and the implication that the others are too poor to afford all the bells and whistles it takes to polish up an album without Stevie in the mix is absurd.
vivfox
05-14-2017, 10:11 AM
So far I enjoy Lindsey's 2 songs more than Christine's one song. I really was expecting the opposite effect.:)
jkmaletic
05-14-2017, 10:49 AM
The album was probably gonna be the same. Honestly I don't think she could have added much more.
I'm not gonna say I'm happy she didn't participate, but it was her choice and I'm happy with what we have so far. The reasons she didn't participate have nothing to do with the quality of the songs. She's not THAT good, no matter what her fans want to think.
Exactly. And for the record, I'm a Stevie fan and I WANT this album to do well - for them, and selfishly for me, so Stevie can do more solo stuff.
And those of you blaming Stevie for this not being better due to her lack of participation, please stop. That's ridiculous. It's also an insult to Buckingham McVie. They can't be good without her? If this album ends up being mediocre to bad, that's on them. This is their album. Stop dragging Stevie into it.
To recap my thoughts on the first 3 singles:
1st one - ok, mediocre
2nd - horrible
3rd - ok, mediocre
Hoping for much better on the rest of the album.
Jamie
saradorna
05-14-2017, 12:22 PM
Exactly. And for the record, I'm a Stevie fan and I WANT this album to do well - for them, and selfishly for me, so Stevie can do more solo stuff.
And those of you blaming Stevie for this not being better due to her lack of participation, please stop. That's ridiculous. It's also an insult to Buckingham McVie. They can't be good without her? If this album ends up being mediocre to bad, that's on them. This is their album. Stop dragging Stevie into it.
To recap my thoughts on the first 3 singles:
1st one - ok, mediocre
2nd - horrible
3rd - ok, mediocre
Hoping for much better on the rest of the album.
Jamie
I'm a Stevie fan but also FM and I stop writing here because of all this negative feedback. Fans trying to blame Stevie or Lindsey its just silly. I've seen cycles of hate for diferent members of this band for years here. Starting with Mick, then lindsey and now Stevie and we should stop that. We are so lucky they're still out there playing and making music.
About the new songs the first one I thought it was Lindsey's song Trouble when I heard it. :rolleyes: So its ok but not what I expected. The second one, I thought its a ok too. :shrug: The third one its...ok jajaja. The songs are not bad but I think the expectations are bigger than the reality. And that makes me think that FM need an outside producer (dont kill please) because the sound needs an upgrade. I dont know how else to put it. :shrug:
jbrownsjr
05-14-2017, 12:37 PM
Happy Mother's Day everyone!!
No matter what your opinion is.. .they are all right.. and all wrong.. but we all have mothers. So gives yours some love and tell her, that her jam is the sweetest to me.
That's How I Feel.
SisterNightroad
05-14-2017, 12:57 PM
Happy Mother's Day everyone!!
No matter what your opinion is.. .they are all right.. and all wrong.. but we all have mothers. So gives yours some love and tell her, that her jam is the sweetest to me.
That's How I Feel.
I agree with you, I'm one big mummy's girl after all.
jbrownsjr
05-14-2017, 01:02 PM
I agree with you, I'm one big mummy's girl after all.
Me too!! I a big mummy girl!!
SisterNightroad
05-14-2017, 01:20 PM
Me too!! I a big mummy girl!!
For a moment I thought about something like this:
https://s21.postimg.org/n0x736ukn/halloween_girl_the_mummy_by_spearhafoc-d99ttf3.jpg
jbrownsjr
05-14-2017, 01:48 PM
For a moment I thought about something like this:
https://s21.postimg.org/n0x736ukn/halloween_girl_the_mummy_by_spearhafoc-d99ttf3.jpg
Christine!!!! lol
button-lip
05-14-2017, 02:21 PM
I'm a Stevie fan but also FM and I stop writing here because of all this negative feedback. Fans trying to blame Stevie or Lindsey its just silly. I've seen cycles of hate for diferent members of this band for years here. Starting with Mick, then lindsey and now Stevie and we should stop that. We are so lucky they're still out there playing and making music.
Negativity? Here? Nah, you're so wrong! :rolleyes:
I want this album to be a success for Lindsey and for Christine. I couldn't care less about those who chose not to be part of it. To imply it's gonna fail because Stevie is not there or because they didn't try hard enough because again Stevie is not there is ridiculous.
They're all doing what they want, and even though it's not what WE want, we have to live with it. :shrug:
Happy Mothers Day to all moms here. It's not International Mothers Day, so some of us don't celebrate it today.
dontlookdown
05-17-2017, 01:27 AM
It's on iTunes now. And I think it's my favorite of the 3 released songs - even though it's not new. I like it better than the Seeds We Sow versions, but would have liked to have Christine on it too.
I like the raw/sloppy mix, although I know a lot of people don't. It will contrast nicely with some of the more overproduced poppy songs on the album.
And hearing the 3 tracks together makes me realize these songs will hang together well as a whole album.
It's definitely a Lindsey affair -- I can see why Stevie wasn't all in.
I'm excited for June 9th!
http://www.tonedeaf.com.au/501374/lindsey-buckingham-christine-mcvie-release-yet-another-great-duet.htm
Lindsey Buckingham and Christine McVie release yet another great duet
Written by Nathan Jolly on May 30, 2017
‘Sleeping Around The Corner’ is the third great single from the forthcoming Lindsey Buckingham/Christine McVie album, which means we’ll have to go and buy it when it comes out on June 9.
For those not in the know, Lindsey Buckingham/Christine McVie is a duets album by the two Fleetwood Mac geniuses. Despite forty years of collaborating, this will be the pair’s first project together.
The first single ‘In My World’, was a bouncy Rumours-esque track, while second single ‘Feel About It’ was a lovely McVie ballad. We’re sold!
“We’ve always had a particular musical relationship since he first joined the band – it was immediate,” McVie tells the Daily Express about the project. “The whole band was just chemistry abounding but Lindsey and I, me being the piano player and him the guitar player, understand each other musically without saying anything
“We’ve always worked well together over the years but never thought about doing an album together until recently and now we wonder why we didn’t think about doing it before.”
jbrownsjr
05-30-2017, 08:45 AM
http://www.tonedeaf.com.au/501374/lindsey-buckingham-christine-mcvie-release-yet-another-great-duet.htm
Lindsey Buckingham and Christine McVie release yet another great duet
Written by Nathan Jolly on May 30, 2017
‘Sleeping Around The Corner’ is the third great single from the forthcoming Lindsey Buckingham/Christine McVie album, which means we’ll have to go and buy it when it comes out on June 9.
For those not in the know, Lindsey Buckingham/Christine McVie is a duets album by the two Fleetwood Mac geniuses. Despite forty years of collaborating, this will be the pair’s first project together.
The first single ‘In My World’, was a bouncy Rumours-esque track, while second single ‘Feel About It’ was a lovely McVie ballad. We’re sold!
“We’ve always had a particular musical relationship since he first joined the band – it was immediate,” McVie tells the Daily Express about the project. “The whole band was just chemistry abounding but Lindsey and I, me being the piano player and him the guitar player, understand each other musically without saying anything
“We’ve always worked well together over the years but never thought about doing an album together until recently and now we wonder why we didn’t think about doing it before.”
Nice little review!
lennonfan
05-30-2017, 09:02 AM
I'm thinking this song is much more about Stevie than the other one...and I hate the whole soap opera thing....but those lyrics...
I'm thinking this song is much more about Stevie than the other one...and I hate the whole soap opera thing....but those lyrics...
that's interesting how we all hear completely different things. out of all his songs, this particular one never ever struck me to have anything to do with SN. it always reminded me of Christine, from the first listen.
person he's talking about is British (listen to pronounciations and phrases - "give you a frown"). and definitely not a US citizen. ;)
jbrownsjr
05-30-2017, 10:12 AM
that's interesting how we all hear completely different things. out of all his songs, this particular one never ever struck me to have anything to do with SN. it always reminded me of Christine, from the first listen.
person he's talking about is British (listen to pronounciations and phrases - "give you a frown"). and definitely not a US citizen. ;)
In My World, feels so Stevie to me. SATC doesn't strike me as about Stevie.
I do like the Christine theory.
In My World, feels so Stevie to me. SATC doesn't strike me as about Stevie.
I do like the Christine theory.
In My World is no doubt Stevie and i guess her not-in-not-out without clearly expressing what she would like attitude towards FM.
TrueFaith77
05-30-2017, 10:24 AM
In My World is no doubt Stevie and i guess her not-in-not-out without clearly expressing what she would like attitude towards FM.
Agreed. IMW is def about Stevie.
that's interesting how we all hear completely different things. out of all his songs, this particular one never ever struck me to have anything to do with SN. it always reminded me of Christine, from the first listen.
person he's talking about is British (listen to pronounciations and phrases - "give you a frown"). and definitely not a US citizen. ;)
Maybe it's a cultural thang but I hear Afro-Caribbean dialect.
So the only thing Christine about it is a reference to her Halloween costume in 1978.
Anyway, I looooove the theory that it is about Stevie (don't they have a secret tunnel connecting their houses which are just around the corner from each other?)... but I think it's about him juggling family and art.
I know I've said this before, but I'm just recapping last week's installment of the soap opera.
NOW:
"Feel About You" -- who is THAT about??!
jbrownsjr
05-30-2017, 10:30 AM
In My World is no doubt Stevie and i guess her not-in-not-out without clearly expressing what she would like attitude towards FM.
It doesn't hold back.
lennonfan
05-30-2017, 10:47 AM
Agreed. IMW is def about Stevie.
Maybe it's a cultural thang but I hear Afro-Caribbean dialect.
So the only thing Christine about it is a reference to her Halloween costume in 1978.
Anyway, I looooove the theory that it is about Stevie (don't they have a secret tunnel connecting their houses which are just around the corner from each other?)... but I think it's about him juggling family and art.
I know I've said this before, but I'm just recapping last week's installment of the soap opera.
NOW:
"Feel About You" -- who is THAT about??!
jelly, lol
lennonfan
05-30-2017, 10:49 AM
that's interesting how we all hear completely different things. out of all his songs, this particular one never ever struck me to have anything to do with SN. it always reminded me of Christine, from the first listen.
person he's talking about is British (listen to pronounciations and phrases - "give you a frown"). and definitely not a US citizen. ;)
'she called to me,' meet me at the border'
'wake me up when our papers are in order'
sounds like the tour.
also, the whole 'sleeping around the corner'....didn't they have nearby hotel rooms?
you are right tho that it could be Christine.
jelly, lol
remember when they talked about Christine's new lyrics and how she said she wasn't sure what to write about and Lindsey told her "just write about sex!" - maybe she took his advice? ;)
'she called to me,' meet me at the border'
'wake me up when our papers are in order'
sounds like the tour.
also, the whole 'sleeping around the corner'....didn't they have nearby hotel rooms?
good point.
(our papers or my papers? i always heard my papers but might be wrong)
no idea. there seem to be a lot of stories about various Mac members staying in different hotels.
TrueFaith77
05-30-2017, 10:55 AM
remember when they talked about Christine's new lyrics and how she said she wasn't sure what to write about and Lindsey told her "just write about sex!" - maybe she took his advice? ;)
Ooooh that's good. Where did that come from?
lennonfan
05-30-2017, 11:03 AM
ooh here's another one....think of the croaky voice in the beginning:)
now of course it's about the person waking up and being groggy but could it also be an imitation of you know who? :P also the apology stuff, I don't want to bring you down' Chris and Linds seem in love! Lol
HomerMcvie
05-30-2017, 11:26 AM
Chris and Linds seem in love!
Wouldn't that be the ultimate ending for FM? Lindsey and Christine falling in love, and riding off into the sunset.
lennonfan
05-30-2017, 11:46 AM
Wouldn't that be the ultimate ending for FM? Lindsey and Christine falling in love, and riding off into the sunset.
I'm getting sucked into a soap opera!! HELP!!!!!
jbrownsjr
05-30-2017, 12:25 PM
Wouldn't that be the ultimate ending for FM? Lindsey and Christine falling in love, and riding off into the sunset.
I would never stop laughing!
bombaysaffires
05-30-2017, 04:32 PM
'she called to me,' meet me at the border'
'wake me up when our papers are in order'
sounds like the tour.
also, the whole 'sleeping around the corner'....didn't they have nearby hotel rooms?
you are right tho that it could be Christine.
I just don't find Lindsey's lyrics to be so literal to real events in the way Stevie's are....I mean he can do sometimes, but often, by his own admission, his lyrics come really late in the game and he often just goes with what sounds good or fits, without having any deep meaningful story he's trying to tell. Bits and pieces might have some correlation with something real and other bits are just what fit rhythmically and rhyme. He's a composer moreso than a writer, whereas Stevie is more a writer than a composer. He's more like Christine... as she said on Johnny Walker, she just makes up stories around some small kernel of something true... and her example was Over My Head, and how it was based originally on Lindsey... how he was difficult to work with and moody "you can take me to paradise/then again you can be cold as ice" and she wove it into the structure of a story about a relationship because that is the style of song she excels at. So you couldn't say "oh this is about her and John breaking up" or "this is about her and Lindsey having an affair" or something, because neither is really true....but both of those explanations could make sense. But as she said "I just make up stories" to provide a narrative for a catchy song. I think he mostly does the same these days.
I just don't find Lindsey's lyrics to be so literal to real events in the way Stevie's are....I mean he can do sometimes, but often, by his own admission, his lyrics come really late in the game and he often just goes with what sounds good or fits, without having any deep meaningful story he's trying to tell. Bits and pieces might have some correlation with something real and other bits are just what fit rhythmically and rhyme. He's a composer moreso than a writer, whereas Stevie is more a writer than a composer. He's more like Christine... as she said on Johnny Walker, she just makes up stories around some small kernel of something true... and her example was Over My Head, and how it was based originally on Lindsey... how he was difficult to work with and moody "you can take me to paradise/then again you can be cold as ice" and she wove it into the structure of a story about a relationship because that is the style of song she excels at. So you couldn't say "oh this is about her and John breaking up" or "this is about her and Lindsey having an affair" or something, because neither is really true....but both of those explanations could make sense. But as she said "I just make up stories" to provide a narrative for a catchy song. I think he mostly does the same these days.
yes, exactly. composer is the word i think i've been looking for awhile without even knowing, in reference to LB and CM! :thumbsup:
when i say this song reminds me of Christine, i don't see it as them literally having an affair. i just see him randomly inserting references to past songs and adding lyrics about sex on top of some real event that happened - like somebody said, perhaps sorting out working visa or some such documents to be able to perform with FM.
bombaysaffires
05-30-2017, 04:48 PM
yes, exactly. composer is the word i think i've been looking for awhile without even knowing, in reference to LB and CM! :thumbsup:
when i say this song reminds me of Christine, i don't see it as them literally having an affair. i just see him randomly inserting references to past songs and adding lyrics about sex on top of some real event that happened - like somebody said, perhaps sorting out working visa or some such documents to be able to perform with FM.
gotcha.
And I'm thinking that he fit in "papers are in order" coz it happened to rhyme with "meet me at the border" and that he liked "meet me at the border" coz it just makes an intriguing story of a clandestine relationship or something...which could be something with Stevie, though realistically, given their tension those days are long, long gone in reality... they just make good stories and titillate people. :shrug:
it could have something to do with his wife......for example, she runs a couple of her businesses (design and horses) and let's say, maybe she was just getting some papers together and he liked the phrase "papers are in order" and constructed a story, and "meet me at the border" rhymed with the first line and he's off, creating a new story.
I tend to think his writing is more in that vein versus like reading his diary. I know that's a lot less romantic and doesn't support shipping, but there ya go.
SteveMacD
05-30-2017, 08:44 PM
Wouldn't that be the ultimate ending for FM? Lindsey and Christine falling in love, and riding off into the sunset.
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HomerMcvie
05-31-2017, 12:35 AM
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#hater
Imma mark you off my Xmas list right now!
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lbfan
05-31-2017, 04:33 AM
For some odd reason, I thought about the band The Eagles when I first heard this song, and Stevie's relationships with several members of that band.
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