View Full Version : Unearthed Live at the 1982 Us Festival Videos
SisterNightroad
05-06-2017, 02:31 PM
Gloria in excelsis Deo, yesterday this youtube channel called fleetwoodmacVEVO (https://www.youtube.com/user/fleetwoodmacVEVO/videos) posted the unseen performance of The Chain at the Us festival of 1982:
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FuzzyPlum
05-06-2017, 02:57 PM
Damn, damn, damn good. They look completely off their faces.
SisterNightroad
05-06-2017, 03:01 PM
Damn, damn, damn good. They look completely off their faces.
I know! And when the infamous documentary will be out we'll have a remastered HQ version of it! I want to see even the sweat dripping from their foreheads.
24karatstevie
05-06-2017, 03:21 PM
Ohmygod This Is So Exciting!
Macfan4life
05-06-2017, 04:57 PM
OMG
THIS IS AMAZING
Never thought we would see this!!!!!!!
A bit sloppy and funny at 5:35 when Stevie misses her cue and is on the other side of the stage when "Chain keep us together" part
OMG
THIS IS AMAZING
Never thought we would see this!!!!!!!
A bit sloppy and funny at 5:35 when Stevie misses her cue and is on the other side of the stage when "Chain keep us together" part
I loved the Mirage/1982 tour so rock and roll just the 5 of them no back up band.
tango87
05-06-2017, 05:24 PM
Wonderful to see this. Looking forward to more with the festival doc.
There must be so much footage from throughout the years out there somewhere.
Having said that, it's a bit of a mess, isn't it? What with Stevie missing her cue, and whatever happens in John's bass solo - it sounds like he comes in on the wrong beat, and Mick almost restarts, or something. The sound is not so good - Lindsey solo is very hard to hear...
However, I am grateful for anything!
James89
05-06-2017, 06:41 PM
Wow. The Mirage tour was just a competition between Stevie and Lindsey to see which one could be the loudest! Such a great video. They all looked and sounded totally drugged up but it makes for great entertainment.
button-lip
05-06-2017, 06:52 PM
Wow. The Mirage tour was just a competition between Stevie and Lindsey to see which one could be the loudest! Such a great video. They all looked and sounded totally drugged up but it makes for great entertainment.
Mick is the worst. He couldn't be more drugged up than he already was. That face! :lol:
Never seen Stevie missing her cue. First one for me! :lol::lol:
BombaySapphire3
05-06-2017, 07:14 PM
So glad I got to see them on that tour..the end of an era for the Rumours five live shows no doubt.
Having said that, it's a bit of a mess, isn't it?
I think a lot of the Mirage tour was just that, a bit of a mess. And I think it's exactly why I find it so endearing!
Despite the sound issue and the f-ups (for a few seconds there with John's bass solo you just expect the whole song to fall apart and come to a screeching halt!) this stuff is great and I hope we get to see the whole show at some point.
It really is a shame that they just plopped the Mirage Tour Video audio on to the end of the Deluxe release instead of a proper full show (or at least a full set from several shows a la the Tusk Deluxe version).
secondhandchain
05-06-2017, 07:41 PM
Wow are they coked up in this one!
BombaySapphire3
05-06-2017, 07:47 PM
Wow are they coked up in this one!
it's 1982 and it is Fleetwood Mac:shrug:
aleuzzi
05-06-2017, 07:57 PM
It's a mess, but a hypnotic one.
John REALLY messes up a basic repetitive part, Stevie misses her cue and over songs and shouts over everyone, Mick looks completely blottoed but musically keeps it all together. Chris and Lindsey are probably coked out, too, but you can't really tell.
dreamsunwind
05-06-2017, 09:07 PM
Honestly this one is not that good, especially compared to the one that was from the Mirage tour video. Stevie is overdoing it, Lindsey's head shake thing/mannerisms is kinda distracting and everything in general is kinda messy. Still great to see tho.
Wdm6789
05-06-2017, 09:29 PM
Ahh this was awesome. Obviously the HBO one is much better, but this was still awesome to watch. They're all coked and drunk in the hot ass desert in early September. They're definitely sloppy, but it adds to the awesomeness. This give us hope that videos of their other songs from the US festival might be out there somewhere also.
Macfan4life
05-07-2017, 09:23 AM
Its pure rock concert greatness in excesses of the 80's. I have always said that 1982 was an end of an era for the Mac. This clip is a rock concert. Nothing like this would ever happen again. This was before back ground singers, programmed keyboards, and additional musicians. Its sloppy and spontaneous. Its rock concert goodness. Sadly today the music is precisely like the studio version because of technology and its so rehearsed. This is raw and its fantastic. The Mac was never the same again after this tour.
vivfox
05-07-2017, 10:11 AM
Thank you sisternightroad for finding this gem. I loved it in all its rawness.Please dear God allow more live Fleetwood Mac videos to resurface from the years 1975-1982. Especially the live Rhiannon's from the Tusk tour!
HomerMcvie
05-07-2017, 10:22 AM
Its pure rock concert greatness in excesses of the 80's. I have always said that 1982 was an end of an era for the Mac. This clip is a rock concert. Nothing like this would ever happen again. This was before back ground singers, programmed keyboards, and additional musicians. Its sloppy and spontaneous. Its rock concert goodness. Sadly today the music is precisely like the studio version because of technology and its so rehearsed. This is raw and its fantastic. The Mac was never the same again after this tour.
This.
I agree completely! I HATE all the additional musicians now. WHO decided that it just wasn't enough, them with Ray occasionally adding an acoustic guitar?
I'd certainly guess that all the backup singers was Stevie's idea. Then I'd guess that led to more fattening.... BLECK!
SisterNightroad
05-07-2017, 10:24 AM
Thank you sisternightroad for finding this gem. I loved it in all its rawness.Please dear God allow more live Fleetwood Mac videos to resurface from the years 1975-1982. Especially the live Rhiannon's from the Tusk tour!
Actually I've seen it on Danielle's Stevie and FM Blog (http://crystallineknowledge.tumblr.com/)/Facebook Page (https://www.facebook.com/crystallineknowledgetumblr/?hc_ref=NEWSFEED).
Later this year also the Us Festival Documentary with FM full set should come out, let's hope it doesn't get delayed.
Wdm6789
05-07-2017, 11:07 AM
Actually I've seen it on Danielle's Stevie and FM Blog (http://crystallineknowledge.tumblr.com/)/Facebook Page (https://www.facebook.com/crystallineknowledgetumblr/?hc_ref=NEWSFEED).
Later this year also the Us Festival Documentary with FM full set should come out, let's hope it doesn't get delayed.
I remember seeing on the Facebook page that only The Chain and Gypsy were going to be in the documentary.
Wdm6789
05-07-2017, 11:08 AM
This.
I agree completely! I HATE all the additional musicians now. WHO decided that it just wasn't enough, them with Ray occasionally adding an acoustic guitar?
I'd certainly guess that all the backup singers was Stevie's idea. Then I'd guess that led to more fattening.... BLECK!
It would have been awesome if Lindsey did the Tango tour and it was still just the five of them and they actually have live videos of it, not the reenacted performances with occasional stock audience shots added in.
SisterNightroad
05-07-2017, 11:39 AM
I remember seeing on the Facebook page that only The Chain and Gypsy were going to be in the documentary.
The full performances of many bands will be featured in the DVD extras.
definitely interesting to see, especially for fans of the band. definitely the last real tour of the Rumours era band, before the dissipation, the comeback and nostalgia act phases.
Macfan4life
05-07-2017, 12:39 PM
Stevie has such big wide open coke eyes right at the end of the second verse. I love how she laughs when she misses her cue. Usually she is not phased by such a thing but its great to see her have fun. Lindsey has absolutely NO eye contact with Stevie. That HBO stuff was a put on for TV :)
gldstwmn
05-07-2017, 01:28 PM
Oh man. This is Fleetwood Mac at their booze and chemical infused best. Stevie with the tambourine on her head like a halo is priceless. I really hope that US Festival film gets finished and released. Thanks for sharing.
gldstwmn
05-07-2017, 01:32 PM
Honestly this one is not that good, especially compared to the one that was from the Mirage tour video.
Yes but that was filmed over two shows and produced. This is the real deal and that's what makes it great.
SisterNightroad
05-07-2017, 01:57 PM
Stevie has such big wide open coke eyes right at the end of the second verse. I love how she laughs when she misses her cue. Usually she is not phased by such a thing but its great to see her have fun. Lindsey has absolutely NO eye contact with Stevie. That HBO stuff was a put on for TV :)
Actually this recorded show was a much bigger deal for them than the HBO special.
Stevie also said that for this gig since it was so important they had remained relatively sober: https://books.google.it/books?id=JLfyLhoR-H4C&pg=PA76&lpg=PA76&dq=stevie+nicks+%22Everybody+was+smoking+a+lot+of+pot+and+doing+other+drugs%22&source=bl&ots=gs5yrbXQa_&sig=YgJroqd1d0uZyZx_4zgD7TLlBak&hl=it&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj1o4yZrt7TAhVLJcAKHZXgCUAQ6AEIKTAA#v=onepage&q=stevie%20nicks%20%22Everybody%20was%20smoking%20a%20lot%20of%20pot%20and%20doing%20other%20drugs%2 2&f=false
However she also said later in her career that "sober" for her/them meant only alcohol and maybe a bit of pot.
The main thing I think was the fear, everyone including Stevie for her performance of the following year said that such an unprecedented big show with so many people was very unnerving.
Wdm6789
05-07-2017, 03:35 PM
The full performances of many bands will be featured in the DVD extras.
Are we able to purchase the DVD with extras if we didn't donate to the kickstarter?
SisterNightroad
05-07-2017, 03:56 PM
Are we able to purchase the DVD with extras if we didn't donate to the kickstarter?
I don't know for sure how it will be, if you want to ask directly to director Aveni you can do it here:https://www.facebook.com/usfestmovie/?hc_ref=SEARCH
What I can tell you is that he said that the documentary will have no song performances but only brief clips here and there because it is a documentary. But the DVD will have additional content or "extra" that will be full performance from the bands that participated. When asked by me if FM full performance will be featured he confirmed.
Macfan4life
05-07-2017, 03:57 PM
Actually this recorded show was a much bigger deal for them than the HBO special.
Stevie also said that for this gig since it was so important they had remained relatively sober: https://books.google.it/books?id=JLfyLhoR-H4C&pg=PA76&lpg=PA76&dq=stevie+nicks+%22Everybody+was+smoking+a+lot+of+pot+and+doing+other+drugs%22&source=bl&ots=gs5yrbXQa_&sig=YgJroqd1d0uZyZx_4zgD7TLlBak&hl=it&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj1o4yZrt7TAhVLJcAKHZXgCUAQ6AEIKTAA#v=onepage&q=stevie%20nicks%20%22Everybody%20was%20smoking%20a%20lot%20of%20pot%20and%20doing%20other%20drugs%2 2&f=false
However she also said later in her career that "sober" for her/them meant only alcohol and maybe a bit of pot.
The main thing I think was the fear, everyone including Stevie for her performance of the following year said that such an unprecedented big show with so many people was very unnerving.
I'm confused by your post. I was not comparing the importance of the gigs. I was pointing out how different the HBO Chain is with Stevie and Lindsey staring eachother down. On this clip, Lindsey acts like Stevie does not even exist.
Relatively sober? I don't think so. I don't care what some link says. In these days almost every rock band played drunk and high on stage. We know that this time Mick and Stevie were losing control with their substance abuse. Stevie was so hot so she could mask it a bit more. I saw Stevie live on her solo tour only 1 year after this performance and she was so high she lost control of her performances some.
So I take any statement from her with a grain of salt claiming to be relatively sober at the US Festival. Yeah ok right ;)
button-lip
05-07-2017, 04:21 PM
This.
I agree completely! I HATE all the additional musicians now. WHO decided that it just wasn't enough, them with Ray occasionally adding an acoustic guitar?
I guess it was a joint decision. My guess would be first of all, Stevie, but I think they all took some advantage of all the circus sorrounding them.
I'd certainly guess that all the backup singers was Stevie's idea. Then I'd guess that led to more fattening.... BLECK!
Didn't she recruited Sharon on Hawaii or somewhere else? I can't remember. It certainly was her idea. :)
button-lip
05-07-2017, 04:23 PM
It would have been awesome if Lindsey did the Tango tour and it was still just the five of them and they actually have live videos of it, not the reenacted performances with occasional stock audience shots added in.
Yeah, and all those Stevie's close-ups that make no sense at all, and that certainly Lindsey would have never approved had he been there.
button-lip
05-07-2017, 04:26 PM
Stevie has such big wide open coke eyes right at the end of the second verse. I love how she laughs when she misses her cue. Usually she is not phased by such a thing but its great to see her have fun. Lindsey has absolutely NO eye contact with Stevie. That HBO stuff was a put on for TV :)
Pretty much like today. Lindsey looks at Stevie during concerts only when he has too. The rest of the time he fools around with Christine and Mick. And the audience.
button-lip
05-07-2017, 04:31 PM
Relatively sober? I don't think so. I don't care what some link says. In these days almost every rock band played drunk and high on stage. We know that this time Mick and Stevie were losing control with their substance abuse. Stevie was so hot so she could mask it a bit more. I saw Stevie live on her solo tour only 1 year after this performance and she was so high she lost control of her performances some.
So I take any statement from her with a grain of salt claiming to be relatively sober at the US Festival. Yeah ok right ;)
Glad to hear from someone who actually saw her live during those days. Knowing her substance abuse at that time, it was hard for me to believe she never lost it on stage.
And I always claim any of her statement with a grain of salt. She should learn to shut her mouth once in a while.
SisterNightroad
05-07-2017, 04:33 PM
I'm confused by your post. I was not comparing the importance of the gigs. I was pointing out how different the HBO Chain is with Stevie and Lindsey staring each other down. On this clip, Lindsey acts like Stevie does not even exist.
Relatively sober? I don't think so. I don't care what some link says. In these days almost every rock band played drunk and high on stage. We know that this time Mick and Stevie were losing control with their substance abuse. Stevie was so hot so she could mask it a bit more. I saw Stevie live on her solo tour only 1 year after this performance and she was so high she lost control of her performances some.
So I take any statement from her with a grain of salt claiming to be relatively sober at the US Festival. Yeah ok right ;)
I was simply pointing out that a "put on for TV" as you mentioned should have been much more functional for them at the Us festival than the HBO show, then I said that probably they were (also) probably very unnerved by the size of the event, hence their missteps, I don't see what's confusing about it.
I am confused by the rest of your post too, I was not saying that they didn't take any drugs for the event nor the link I posted, I just posted the link to an interesting article with interviews to the Us Festivals performers that pertained to the matter, if you're not interested in reading it then you're free to do so.
SisterNightroad
05-07-2017, 04:58 PM
Knowing her substance abuse at that time, it was hard for me to believe she never lost it on stage.
During the Rumours Tour on more than one date she had to be pulled up by the security guards because she kept falling from the stage, you can find it in a few paper reviews from the time.
BombaySapphire3
05-07-2017, 05:05 PM
During the Rumours Tour on more than one date she had to be pulled up by the security guards because she kept falling from the stage, you can find it in a few paper reviews from the time.
One of the Rolling Stone reviews of one of their Rumours tour shows described her as staggering around the stage like a drunken sailor.
button-lip
05-07-2017, 05:08 PM
During the Rumours Tour on more than one date she had to be pulled up by the security guards because she kept falling from the stage, you can find it in a few paper reviews from the time.
Really?! I didn't know it, but then again it's not that hard to believe. Thanks! I'll do some research tonight. :)
Macfan4life
05-07-2017, 05:21 PM
I was simply pointing out that a "put on for TV" as you mentioned should have been much more functional for them at the Us festival than the HBO show, then I said that probably they were (also) probably very unnerved by the size of the event, hence their missteps, I don't see what's confusing about it.
I am confused by the rest of your post too, I was not saying that they didn't take any drugs for the event nor the link I posted, I just posted the link to an interesting article with interviews to the Us Festivals performers that pertained to the matter, if you're not interested in reading it then you're free to do so.
The US Festival had a huge crowd but outside the crowd no one saw it. HBO was pumped into millions of homes around the world. You had Fleetwood Mac live in concert on your TV channel. This is what hooked me as a fan. The HBO show was so much more important than the US Festival. Bands did the US Festival for the money. The Mac was paid $200k (I believe) which was an outrageous amount of money back then for one show.
The HBO special was also broadcast on VHS tape, laser disc (gosh remember them), and regular TV channels in addition to be played on MTV. I taped the concert several times on different channels over the years. I also rented the concert at the local VHS rental place (before Blockbuster). I don't think you can compare the events for audiences that viewed them. So that is understandable Stevie did not wear a tambourine on her head and they were not partying so hard like they were at the US Festival.
SisterNightroad
05-07-2017, 05:36 PM
The US Festival had a huge crowd but outside the crowd no one saw it. HBO was pumped into millions of homes around the world. You had Fleetwood Mac live in concert on your TV channel. This is what hooked me as a fan. The HBO show was so much more important than the US Festival. Bands did the US Festival for the money. The Mac was paid $200k (I believe) which was an outrageous amount of money back then for one show.
The HBO special was also broadcast on VHS tape, laser disc (gosh remember them), and regular TV channels in addition to be played on MTV. I taped the concert several times on different channels over the years. I also rented the concert at the local VHS rental place (before Blockbuster). I don't think you can compare the events for audiences that viewed them. So that is understandable Stevie did not wear a tambourine on her head and they were not partying so hard like they were at the US Festival.
Actually the Us festival was filmed and was to be viewed worldwide. The fact that it didn't happen is only because afterwards some of the other bands witheld their copyrights because of money, but most of the performances were filmed and the intention was for worldwide release. Part of the second edition was even broadcasted in the Soviet Union.
vivfox
05-07-2017, 05:47 PM
Bands did the US Festival for the money. The Mac was paid $200k (I believe) which was an outrageous amount of money back then for one show.
If my lousy memory serves me right, FM were paid 1M to perform there as the headliner. Articles at that time stressed how the night before they were performing in Florida and in order to get them to appear, a cool 1M was offered for them to play.
Also, I don't understand why you are pouncing on sisternightroad. She didn't say anything out of line to you and IMHO she deserves more respect from you.
dreamsunwind
05-07-2017, 05:55 PM
I'm confused by your post. I was not comparing the importance of the gigs. I was pointing out how different the HBO Chain is with Stevie and Lindsey staring eachother down. On this clip, Lindsey acts like Stevie does not even exist.
Relatively sober? I don't think so. I don't care what some link says. In these days almost every rock band played drunk and high on stage. We know that this time Mick and Stevie were losing control with their substance abuse. Stevie was so hot so she could mask it a bit more. I saw Stevie live on her solo tour only 1 year after this performance and she was so high she lost control of her performances some.
So I take any statement from her with a grain of salt claiming to be relatively sober at the US Festival. Yeah ok right ;)
chill a bit sis
BombaySapphire3
05-07-2017, 06:14 PM
If my lousy memory serves me right, FM were paid 1M to perform there as the headliner. Articles at that time stressed how the night before they were performing in Florida and in order to get them to appear, a cool 1M was offered for them to play.
Also, I don't understand why you are pouncing on sisternightroad. She didn't say anything out of line to you and IMHO she deserves more respect from you.
I remember a million too and I think Stevie got half that the following year for the US Festival.
sodascouts
05-07-2017, 06:43 PM
So excited to see "new" footage, even if it's not perfect. Awesome!
Macfan4life
05-07-2017, 06:45 PM
If my lousy memory serves me right, FM were paid 1M to perform there as the headliner. Articles at that time stressed how the night before they were performing in Florida and in order to get them to appear, a cool 1M was offered for them to play.
Also, I don't understand why you are pouncing on sisternightroad. She didn't say anything out of line to you and IMHO she deserves more respect from you.
What the? Pouncing on Sister? Disrespectful? For real?
I could say maybe there is something different in the translation but English is my primary language. I am curious though. How did I pounce on Sister? I did disagree with her statement that the US Festival was more important to the Mac than the HBO show. I completely disagree and I base that on viewers. People actually got tired of the Mac on HBO every other night and the concert was played like crazy for about 5 years after the show. The US Festival may have intended to be viewed but no one saw it. You cant compare it to the HBO concert.
Is that pouncing? "She deserves more respect from you" So silly and harsh. Does not everyone deserve the same amount of respect on this board?
To the other poster that said I was disrespectful is a bit odd.
We can have a disagreement, that's fine. But to say I am pouncing or disrespectful of anyone is way over the line IMHO.
So we cant disagree with a moderator?
Pretty sad if that is the case. I said nothing disrespectful in any way shape or form. I see no reason to "chill" (as one poster says) because I state my opinion.
What is next? No disagreements or contrary viewpoints? I sure hope not ;)
No one is expected to agree with me and I welcome those who don't. But I wont call someone names or disrespectful for doing it.
See some of you have brought me down to your third grade level ;)
HomerMcvie
05-07-2017, 07:17 PM
What is next? No disagreements or contrary viewpoints? I sure hope not ;)
That will NEVER happen on this board! (Thank god!)
It's bludgeon, or be bludgeoned!!!! Now where's my 2 x 4? :lol:
Macfan4life
05-07-2017, 07:43 PM
That will NEVER happen on this board! (Thank god!)
It's bludgeon, or be bludgeoned!!!! Now where's my 2 x 4? :lol:
I'm not so sure.
BombaySapphire3
05-07-2017, 08:02 PM
That is one of the things that I love about this board .People arguing over something that would be so obscure to most like whether the 35 year old Fleetwood Mac Us Festival show or the Fleetwood Mac Mirage show HBO special was more impactful .Where else is that is going to happen?:lol:
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vivfox
05-07-2017, 09:52 PM
What the? Pouncing on Sister? Disrespectful? For real?
I'm sorry. I screwed up and read the wrong post. You were not disrespectful to anyone. Hope u can forgive my blunder.:eek:
RockyRaccoon
05-07-2017, 10:53 PM
The audio is screwed up on that video. I'm listening to it on headphones and the left speaker is completely silent. I checked to make sure it wasn't the headphones. They should re-upload it.
TheWildHeart67
05-08-2017, 01:21 AM
I LOVE IT! 300,000 people. I'd rather see this than some cleaned-up edited release. They all are rocking!!!! Love Stevie hunching down on he stage at one point.
SisterNightroad
05-08-2017, 05:32 AM
One of the Rolling Stone reviews of one of their Rumours tour shows described her as staggering around the stage like a drunken sailor.
Yes, if I remember well it was the MSG concert review.
If my lousy memory serves me right, FM were paid 1M to perform there as the headliner. Articles at that time stressed how the night before they were performing in Florida and in order to get them to appear, a cool 1M was offered for them to play.
Also, I don't understand why you are pouncing on sisternightroad. She didn't say anything out of line to you and IMHO she deserves more respect from you.
I remember a million too and I think Stevie got half that the following year for the US Festival.
Fletwood Mac were paid 500'000 Dollars that in today's currency is 1 million and something.
David Bowie the for the following year was paid 1 Million, which in today's currency must be more than 2 Millions of Dollars.
Also Viv thanks for your chivalry, it's rare to see it these days, it's just that in these cases I usually prefer to act like a lady and let such things slide because either they weren't meant to offend or, if they were, they don't deserve to be answered.
That will NEVER happen on this board! (Thank god!)
It's bludgeon, or be bludgeoned!!!! Now where's my 2 x 4? :lol:
Actually you'd better hope it won't ever come down to that because you'd all be finished, I'm pretty much a great bitch in person.
SisterNightroad
05-08-2017, 06:11 AM
What the? Pouncing on Sister? Disrespectful? For real?
I could say maybe there is something different in the translation but English is my primary language. I am curious though. How did I pounce on Sister? I did disagree with her statement that the US Festival was more important to the Mac than the HBO show. I completely disagree and I base that on viewers. People actually got tired of the Mac on HBO every other night and the concert was played like crazy for about 5 years after the show. The US Festival may have intended to be viewed but no one saw it. You cant compare it to the HBO concert.
Is that pouncing? "She deserves more respect from you" So silly and harsh. Does not everyone deserve the same amount of respect on this board?
To the other poster that said I was disrespectful is a bit odd.
We can have a disagreement, that's fine. But to say I am pouncing or disrespectful of anyone is way over the line IMHO.
So we cant disagree with a moderator?
Pretty sad if that is the case. I said nothing disrespectful in any way shape or form. I see no reason to "chill" (as one poster says) because I state my opinion.
What is next? No disagreements or contrary viewpoints? I sure hope not ;)
No one is expected to agree with me and I welcome those who don't. But I wont call someone names or disrespectful for doing it.
See some of you have brought me down to your third grade level ;)
Well, you post could have been read with an opinionated tone (at least in my mother language) but I don't think it deserves any further discussion, after all the written medium doesn't have a tone and it's easy to misinterpret things.
However returning to what I was trying to say, we (or at least I) were talking about the performance and what influenced it at the time, not a comparison between the hystorical importance of the Us festival and the HBO concert.
I was saying that at the time of the performance the band members, as other participants, were very unnerved by the prospect of performing before such a large crowd for such an important unprecedented event (remember that some have called it a second Woodstock) and with the prospect of world wide viewing. It's also interesting to remember that the organizer was Apple founder Steve Wozniac, who provided the best and most innovative technological solutions for that purpose. Before, during and right after the event they didn't know yet that the Us Festival wouldn't be released for years so that doesn't matter.
Macfan4life
05-08-2017, 07:18 AM
I'm sorry. I screwed up and read the wrong post. You were not disrespectful to anyone. Hope u can forgive my blunder.:eek:
Apology accepted :)
Sometimes emails or posts have different mental contexts and tones to different people. Opinionated yes. Counter point yes. Disagreement yes. Disrespectful no.
The proper description is PASSIONATE.
I used to set my alarm for 2 am on a school night so I could sneak downstairs and turn on HBO and put my tape recorder against the TV to record the Mirage concert.
jbrownsjr
05-08-2017, 02:01 PM
WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON IN HERE!!
YOU'RE ALL GROUNDED. Except for Christine fans. You're just on probation.
:lol::lol::lol::lol:
HomerMcvie
05-08-2017, 05:22 PM
WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON IN HERE!!
YOU'RE ALL GROUNDED. Except for Christine fans. You're just on probation.
:lol::lol::lol::lol:
WHERE THE HELL HAVE YOU BEEN? You've been noticeably absent the past few days!:mad::mad::mad:
LB Freakazoid
05-08-2017, 06:42 PM
Just watched the video... What a hot mess!! Hahaha
jbrownsjr
05-08-2017, 07:46 PM
WHERE THE HELL HAVE YOU BEEN? You've been noticeably absent the past few days!:mad::mad::mad:
Making a short film... and.... I went to Palm Springs.
Wdm6789
05-08-2017, 08:10 PM
Well apparently it got deleted.
HomerMcvie
05-08-2017, 08:23 PM
Making a short film... and.... I went to Palm Springs.
X rated, I hope!
jbrownsjr
05-08-2017, 09:00 PM
X rated, I hope!
PG13.............. nobody wants to see me naked.. that's for sure... X days are over. lol
HomerMcvie
05-08-2017, 10:32 PM
PG13.............. nobody wants to see me naked.. that's for sure... X days are over. lol
Tell me about it. My last one was on VHS!!!:lol:
Nathan
05-09-2017, 01:42 AM
I used to set my alarm for 2 am on a school night so I could sneak downstairs and turn on HBO and put my tape recorder against the TV to record the Mirage concert.
Whoa cool story
Macfan4life
05-09-2017, 12:57 PM
Whoa cool story
I was hypnotized and under a spell. That was the least of it. At age 13 I wrote a several page hand written letter to the HBO executives asking (really begging) them to re-air the Mirage concert again (after it had run its course of a month or so). Believe it or not, I received a very nice letter that was hand signed from their program director thanking me for the interest and noting how popular the concert was and it may air again. Sadly, HBO never aired the concert again and got out of the concert business. However, coicentently 2 months after my letter HBO decided to re-air the Stevie Nicks 1981 White Winged Dove concert. I believe this was to capitalize on her new Wild Heart album. But in the back of my mind, my letter came to mind. I was part happy but part frustrated. Hey guys, I may have raved about Stevie Nicks but its the wrong concert! I remember faking illness so I could skip school and watch the concert at 1pm on HBO. It was 1983 and we did not have a VCR for another year or so. So I had to get my drug anyway that I could if it involved skipping school,waking up at 2 am, or writing long letters to HBO.
24karatstevie
05-09-2017, 01:11 PM
I was hypnotized and under a spell. That was the least of it. At age 13 I wrote a several page hand written letter to the HBO executives asking (really begging) them to re-air the Mirage concert again (after it had run its course of a month or so). Believe it or not, I received a very nice letter that was hand signed from their program director thanking me for the interest and noting how popular the concert was and it may air again. Sadly, HBO never aired the concert again and got out of the concert business. However, coicentently 2 months after my letter HBO decided to re-air the Stevie Nicks 1981 White Winged Dove concert. I believe this was to capitalize on her new Wild Heart album. But in the back of my mind, my letter came to mind. I was part happy but part frustrated. Hey guys, I may have raved about Stevie Nicks but its the wrong concert! I remember faking illness so I could skip school and watch the concert at 1pm on HBO. It was 1983 and we did not have a VCR for another year or so. So I had to get my drug anyway that I could if it involved skipping school,waking up at 2 am, or writing long letters to HBO.
This is awesome! Sounds like the dedication I would have had if I had been born back then. We definitely take our modern technologies for granted.
Wdm6789
05-10-2017, 05:39 AM
Anyone have any idea as to why the video was deleted?
SisterNightroad
05-10-2017, 05:47 AM
Anyone have any idea as to why the video was deleted?
Probably copyright issues.
Had anyone downloaded it in the meantime?
Danielle
05-10-2017, 08:04 AM
It's still on Vevo: https://www.vevo.com/watch/fleetwood-mac/the-chain/USSE91735504
The quality is a little better than the one that was on youtube anyway. I suggest downloading from there so you can keep a slightly better file.
jbrownsjr
05-10-2017, 08:48 AM
It's still on Vevo: https://www.vevo.com/watch/fleetwood-mac/the-chain/USSE91735504
The quality is a little better than the one that was on youtube anyway. I suggest downloading from there so you can keep a slightly better file.
thanks!!!!
David
05-21-2017, 01:44 PM
Wicked cool! Thanks for posting!
DauphineMarie
06-19-2017, 08:24 PM
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This was just posted a short time ago... All I can say is they look like they're having lots of fun! :D
jbrownsjr
06-19-2017, 08:38 PM
Wow, Stevie made it so hard to harmonize on the chorus... not so much vibrato, girl..
Christine actually is playing 2 parts on the keyboards... (I sure would love to see her to play keyboards again)
Lindsey's solo was kinda cool. Turn it up a bit.
Wdm6789
06-19-2017, 09:13 PM
Great video. Although a few shots of John and Mick would have been nice. I hope we keep getting more US festival videos like this.
Netter75
06-19-2017, 11:46 PM
Wow... We definitely know why this footage and audio hasn't been released until now. If Dreams and The Chain are any indication of the rest of the show they were NOT on their game that night. I'm gonna hope Christine's songs (YMLF, love in store, brown eyes, etc.) will come off better than the others.
Still I love being able to see this stuff. So much of the older Mac stuff is edited and tweaked to oblvivion, it's great to see live footage of them that is both professional and raw (warts and all).
At the very least I do like the energy they've all conveyed in these two performances. It must've been great to see that live at the time, even if the performances themselves aren't TECHNICALLY very good.
I remember at a very young age when I started seeing Fleetwood Mac I realized there was the Studio Band and the Live band two very different sounnds. Today that gap has shrunk.
ricohv
06-20-2017, 03:43 PM
Well this is one way to make a pretty song not-so-pretty! :sorry:
ricohv
06-20-2017, 03:49 PM
But Stevie looks great-1982 might be her best year looks-wise: 81 & 83 were good but there's something about 82 that just seems like shear Stevie-perfection! I know that sounds shallow, but I feel ok saying it since image has always been an important part of her allure.
*Ricoh*
dreamsunwind
06-20-2017, 03:56 PM
God she looks soooo gorgeous....but that chorus. Yikes. I think Lindsey and Christine were at least trying, especially at the end of the second verse leading into the second chorus, but maybe Stevie was just really off her game or there was something wrong with the microphones but that did not sound right.
fleetwoodguy79
06-20-2017, 07:23 PM
There is a video to The Chain released too? Where might one find that?? :blob2:
Is it only the right channel audio for anyone else on Dreams? Hmm.
EDIT: Found it! For anyone who hasn't seen it:
https://www.vevo.com/watch/fleetwood-mac/the-chain/USSE91735504
fleetwoodguy79
06-20-2017, 07:26 PM
Just stumbled on this a few minutes ago!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mV_dnrxD6v4
Her voice that night... hmm.
jbrownsjr
06-20-2017, 07:43 PM
I loved that so much. Don't care that it was very pitchy at times.. She pushed through it like a pro.
fleetwoodguy79
06-20-2017, 07:46 PM
I loved that so much. Don't care that it was very pitchy at times.. She pushed through it like a pro.
She did indeed. What happened at the end of the song where Lindsey didn't go into his normal solo and said something to her? Sweet moment between the two of them.
Wdm6789
06-20-2017, 08:03 PM
I hate that the camera didn't get a cool shot of John, Lindsey, and Christine all playing together at 1:40. Instead, the camera kept moving and cut them out of the shot. I also thought it was weird that Christine was singing in the middle of the song. These few US festival videos have been quite the treat, I hope they keep uploading more.
button-lip
06-20-2017, 10:51 PM
Well this is one way to make a pretty song not-so-pretty! :sorry:
Good Lord, that was painful to hear! I agree they look great (especially Lindsey) but you always buy a ticket for something else. :shrug:
bombaysaffires
06-20-2017, 10:59 PM
Having seen/heard some truly awful Stevie performances, (ahem, Red Rocks, anyone?) that others have thought were so wonderful... I have to say this is NOT really that bad. I think, as someone else pointed out, we are only getting one channel of the audio, and we're just mostly getting Stevie's mic. You can't hear Chris's keyboards really at all and Lindsey's guitar solo is echoey and a bit muffled in the mix. This makes it sound like she is bellowing and drowning everyone else out but I gotta blame the recording and the mix on this one.
She does sound like she's singing it more how she does solo than how she used to do it with FM before touring solo. :mad:
But she's not so way off key as plenty of other performances.:shrug:
Macfan4life
06-21-2017, 04:28 AM
Thanks for posting but I don't have any audio when I play them. All other youtube and Vevo and other channels work fine and speakers on. But these new Mac uploads have no sound for me. Anyone a techie and know why?
I am really missing out :eek:
MakerofBirds
06-21-2017, 09:39 AM
Thanks for posting but I don't have any audio when I play them. All other youtube and Vevo and other channels work fine and speakers on. But these new Mac uploads have no sound for me. Anyone a techie and know why?
I am really missing out :eek:
I just listened with headphones and there is sound only in the right speaker on both of the US Fest songs for me. Not sure if that means anything for you or not.
These videos are fabulous! This was a couple weeks before the Mirage show I went to, I believe. I'll have to check my ticket stub!
bombaysaffires
06-21-2017, 09:44 AM
well it's clear she can't hear herself very well at all. She keeps holding her hand to her ear trying to hear, then she looks at Christine and gives a face like "I can't hear sh&t" and she holds out her arms like "wtf". She looks towards Lindsey at one point and kinda shrugs and holds her arms out and gestures in a sort of up, up, up gesture like trying to tell the sound mixers to turn up her monitors or something. She held her hand to her ear during Dreams as well, but she really can't hear herself on this one.
It's weird how Lindsey hangs back on the drum riser throughout. And Christine sings the first "she was just a wish, she was just a wish" before he comes down and stands by his mic. You can sort of hear what he says, it's one word, and he repeats it. At first it almost sounded like "b&tch" but then it's really either "which" or "witch" or "wish". He says it twice, she wags her finger at him and kisses him and walks off. Curious........
The Chain
06-21-2017, 10:14 AM
Awesome.
Side note.. has anyone else always been slightly annoyed that Lindsey didn't play the true guitar hook on the Mirage tour, as he did from The Dance on.. Even though it's a very slight alteration, I've always thought it took a little bit away from the song on this tour.:shrug:
button-lip
06-21-2017, 10:15 AM
It's weird how Lindsey hangs back on the drum riser throughout. And Christine sings the first "she was just a wish, she was just a wish" before he comes down and stands by his mic. You can sort of hear what he says, it's one word, and he repeats it. At first it almost sounded like "b&tch" but then it's really either "which" or "witch" or "wish". He says it twice, she wags her finger at him and kisses him and walks off. Curious........
Yeah, it's something like that, but I also can't figure out what she says.
Flirty, flirty times. She kisses his chin and rests her hand on his neck and chest for much too longer. :D
dreamsunwind
06-21-2017, 05:01 PM
love that outfit!!
the performance of this from the mirage tour video will always be my favorite.
jbrownsjr
06-21-2017, 05:54 PM
love that outfit!!
the performance of this from the mirage tour video will always be my favorite.
Me, too! I loved Stevie back at this time. She was a lot of fun and she adored the fans. The big machine started to swallow her after Wild Heart.
tango87
06-21-2017, 06:56 PM
Here's the latest upload, their show opener:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KkZK1pZLgc
Heavy on the organ! Mix is a bit uneven... Slightly strained vocals... But full of brio!
Wdm6789
06-21-2017, 07:07 PM
Well I hope this keeps happening every night for the next 20ish days.
jbrownsjr
06-21-2017, 08:00 PM
Love this!!!
WatchChain
06-21-2017, 11:03 PM
GOODNESS! That was rough.......
24karatstevie
06-21-2017, 11:33 PM
Really it only seemed rough towards the ending, at least in my opinion. I love Stevie and Lindsey on the "bow bow bow bow bow". I really hope this footage continues to be released. Love it!
24karatstevie
06-21-2017, 11:40 PM
I don't care if many think these are rough performances. I'm just so happy this footage is finally being released. I actually like what many deem "rough". I love the raw live sound. Stevie's voice in 1982 is one of my favorite eras for her. I personally love how she sounds in these videos because it's just so Stevie to me. She's always been more raw than technically proper anyway, and that's why I love her.
BombaySapphire3
06-22-2017, 01:16 AM
I saw them on the Mirage tour including one of the taped Forum shows.They were rough at times but it was truly the end of an era. The Tusk shows were their touring peak IMHO .Glad I had a chance to see that one .
Macfan4life
06-22-2017, 04:41 AM
I am sure there are reasons these songs are unusually rough. Didn't the Mac close the concert? That means all day party before the show :eek: Can you imagine the backstage party with all these bands.
rajtrip
06-22-2017, 10:08 AM
They had Lindsey's mic turned down for half the performance and you could barely hear his guitar. Then in the end Chris comes in louder than the two of them and off as well. I had to listen to the live in Boston version to cleanse my palette after that. :)
They needed RD back from retirement!
Wdm6789
06-24-2017, 10:43 AM
Well I hope we get more videos soon. We got three in a row and then they stopped. Just upload all of them fleetwoodmacvevo.
Wdm6789
07-10-2017, 05:59 PM
Finally, I've been waiting like two weeks for a new video US fest video.
https://youtu.be/I9gj2RiscrM
I apologize, I don't know how to put the video directly in here, so here's the link.
jbrownsjr
07-10-2017, 06:42 PM
Wow, that was awesome!!!
Love the piano in this!!
Netter75
07-10-2017, 06:47 PM
Wow, that was awesome!!!
Love the piano in this!!
Her fingers really fly over those keys. She looks and sounds great too. Glad to have a song featuring Christine posted.
Wdm6789
07-10-2017, 07:54 PM
I hope we eventually get all the videos. A Mirage tour Sara would be amazing. Hold Me would be awesome too.
jbrownsjr
07-11-2017, 07:55 AM
Her fingers really fly over those keys. She looks and sounds great too. Glad to have a song featuring Christine posted.
I got a deeper look into her fingering on this solo. That right hand is faster than I thought.
aleuzzi
07-11-2017, 10:49 AM
That some serious saloon-style piano playing at the three minute mark. Fats Domino was smiling down on her.
These days she appears to have some athritis or joint sensitivity in her right hand. She can't play like that anymore but she's still chording the way she used to.
snroxman
07-11-2017, 01:57 PM
WAYYYY Awesome! I've always loved the way that "Don't Stop" used to be performed.
dreamsunwind
07-11-2017, 02:43 PM
Ah this is one of the better performances from what we've seen of this festival. Christine's piano is amazing at the end and she sounds good too which is great considering how rough she sounded at the end of the Second Hand News performance. Lindsey sounds alright in all the videos. You can't really hear Stevie in this one but that might be for the best considering how she sounded in all the other ones :lol:
aleuzzi
07-11-2017, 05:11 PM
Ah this is one of the better performances from what we've seen of this festival. Christine's piano is amazing at the end and she sounds good too which is great considering how rough she sounded at the end of the Second Hand News performance. Lindsey sounds alright in all the videos. You can't really hear Stevie in this one but that might be for the best considering how she sounded in all the other ones :lol:
D
I checked out the SHN video to hear Christine's vocal. It's in key but her voice is all wrong for the song--it's not something she would have written for herself. And, as she often does when she's reaching just past the natural upper register of her chest voice, she sounds strained. If we were able to hear Stevie in the mix, the effect might be softer, but apparently only the right channel is working in the videos. A lot of people tuning in are complaining about that. That might be why Stevie is hardly audible on Don't Stop, too.
WatchChain
07-12-2017, 06:33 PM
Can the sound man please turn up Stevie's mic ?!?!?! :]
It appears that the Mac were having some major sound problems at the US Festival on this given evening. Lindsey's mic cuts out on the chords of the set opener "Second Hand News", then Chris' mic begins to blare at the end of that tune. Now Stevie's mic is fading out. Perhaps this is why their US Festival appearance hasn't seen an official release.
WatchChain
07-12-2017, 06:40 PM
By the way....Can we PLEASE bring back Stevie's late 70's/early 80's "2001 A Space Mission to Mars SQUARE MIC" ? Come on Stevie, roll it out from the vault!!! Turn that mother UP !!!!!!! :)
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/60/41/49/6041493effa98e73ba2bd3730ecca772.jpg
snroxman
07-13-2017, 10:20 AM
Re: Second Hand News
To me it seemed like SHN was their "sound check" - quickly checking and adjusting levels.
jbrownsjr
07-13-2017, 10:47 AM
Can the sound man please turn up Stevie's mic ?!?!?! :]
It appears that the Mac were having some major sound problems at the US Festival on this given evening. Lindsey's mic cuts out on the chords of the set opener "Second Hand News", then Chris' mic begins to blare at the end of that tune. Now Stevie's mic is fading out. Perhaps this is why their US Festival appearance hasn't seen an official release.
I don't think they can hear themselves. They have that look in their eyes.
If you've ever performed and you can't hear yourself, it can be a disaster.
dreamsunwind
07-13-2017, 03:19 PM
D
I checked out the SHN video to hear Christine's vocal. It's in key but her voice is all wrong for the song--it's not something she would have written for herself. And, as she often does when she's reaching just past the natural upper register of her chest voice, she sounds strained. If we were able to hear Stevie in the mix, the effect might be softer, but apparently only the right channel is working in the videos. A lot of people tuning in are complaining about that. That might be why Stevie is hardly audible on Don't Stop, too.
Yeah I do think there's something wrong with the sound*** in these videos. The Stand Back performance from Stevie's US Fest, you can hardly hear the synths and it makes everything else sound more jarring.
Angel69
07-14-2017, 01:36 PM
Yeah I do think there's something wrong with the sound*** in these videos. The Stand Back performance from Stevie's US Fest, you can hardly hear the synths and it makes everything else sound more jarring.
Her US festival performance was recorded poorly......the girls sound like they are screaming and Sometimes it's like Stevie isn't even micd.
Like the way Christine plays that piano!
Nathan
07-14-2017, 07:53 PM
Her US festival performance was recorded poorly......the girls sound like they are screaming and Sometimes it's like Stevie isn't even micd.
I think that might have just been on the bootlegs though. Even though they're one channel, these new releases sound pretty good. Except for stand back and SDMHA, which were overdubbed.
Macfan4life
07-17-2017, 12:36 PM
Love it. Really amazing to watch Chris play that piano. That style of piano was a last for the 1982 tour. They had a real piano on the 1987 tour but it was a grand piano. It was an end to an era.
jbrownsjr
07-17-2017, 02:29 PM
Love it. Really amazing to watch Chris play that piano. That style of piano was a last for the 1982 tour. They had a real piano on the 1987 tour but it was a grand piano. It was an end to an era.
I miss her playing the upright piano..
Macfan4life
07-20-2017, 05:49 PM
No one noticed Stevie botched the first verse and sang the 3rd verse first? Actually this was quite common. When I saw her during the Wild Heart tour she also dropped the first verse. It really confused me :eek:
bombaysaffires
07-20-2017, 05:59 PM
No one noticed Stevie botched the first verse and sang the 3rd verse first? Actually this was quite common. When I saw her during the Wild Heart tour she also dropped the first verse. It really confused me :eek:
and her face when she realizes it is priceless:lol:
TheWildHeart67
07-20-2017, 05:59 PM
No one noticed Stevie botched the first verse and sang the 3rd verse first? Actually this was quite common. When I saw her during the Wild Heart tour she also dropped the first verse. It really confused me
Coke is one hell of a drug!
Seriously though, I don't think this performance is as bad as some are saying.
I do agree it was recorded/mixed very poorly.
TheWildHeart67
07-20-2017, 06:11 PM
I'm wondering with the mixing and recording so botched, if we will truly get this official release, we've been promised. And if we DO, I wonder how much better it will sound when professionally remixed and remastered.
On Ice
07-21-2017, 08:06 AM
After the "right" and "me" were dropped lower, the entire song suffered and never translated well live since, even so, they played it too fast on the Rumours tour. Stevie has never really put much passion into it either, which has always boggled my mind given its stature. But this is awful and tortuous to this great song, a combination of coke and sloppiness lead to this. I've always thought if they were to continue playing their only #1 single and honouring it instead of rushing through it, it needed a new arrangement. These bad performances of Dreams were really a slap in the face to fans both committed and casual- "one" of the biggest missteps the band has made by allowing her to ruin Dreams. Sorry, had to say it.:(
SisterNightroad
07-21-2017, 08:11 AM
I actually like their crude Mirage Tour performances, especially Dreams that is exactly half between the sound of the Bella Donna and Wild Heart Tour performances; the only Dreams performances I like the least are some from the Tusk Tour.
This particular venue is sloppier than others because of the technical problems that in fact were present also the subsequent year, and because the band was performing in a pretty tight schedule.
I remember an interesting interview with Steve Wozniac saying that Fleetwood Mac did just like David Bowie in the 1983 edition, they initially were hesitant to attend because they would have had to sandwich their performance between two close dates of their tour and it would have been difficult to transport them and all the necessary staff and equipment to San Bernardino and then back onto another state in time; ultimately Wozniac offered 2 Millions to convince them and they ended up rescheduling their dates, if I remember well they supposedly arrived with special aircraft, performed and then left again all just in the nick of time and without sleeping anytime in between; apparently it was a pretty nice anecdote but it wasn't so well known because it's been overshadowed by that of Bowie's 3 millions performance of the year after.
However the soundboard audio of these performances is not unreleased, it's actually been circulating for some time and I had posted it here, with the exception of the last two songs that are from an audience recording: http://ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/showthread.php?p=1173189#post1173189
Finally, I'm sure the official release will happen because from what I know everything's ready and the director that handles everything is pretty known and serious, from the last communication I've read basically some artists' representants are playing bidding games.
aleuzzi
07-21-2017, 10:10 AM
Her singing on the first half sounded warm and very effective. But by the second verse and chorus she's oversinging in the same pitch. The harmonies are a brief, welcome change of color.
That said, she looks fantastic and I'll bet in-person this went down beautifully.
Macfan4life
07-21-2017, 10:42 AM
I also admit I love these sloppier performances. There are so many quirks that you would not see/hear today. Its rare for Lindsey to mess up but during Gypsy he misses his back up cue and Christine is backing only for a bit. The Mac closed the US Festival which was a long day. I can only imagine the partying that went on back stage before this concert. Its actually fun to find the quirks in each song.
HomerMcvie
07-21-2017, 10:50 AM
I also admit I love these sloppier performances. There are so many quirks that you would not see/hear today. Its rare for Lindsey to mess up but during Gypsy he misses his back up cue and Christine is backing only for a bit. The Mac closed the US Festival which was a long day. I can only imagine the partying that went on back stage before this concert. Its actually fun to find the quirks in each song.
Yep. This whole "we don't have warts" mentality we have now, sucks.
It was a whole lot more interesting hearing the occasional mistake, and what 4 musicians could actually play, without karaoke tracks.:mad:
What I'd like to know is what got them to the point where everything is so meticulously rehearsed. I know there's been discussion about filling in the sound with the backup musicians/singers but I remember reading here once about Lindsey having to start Tusk over on the last tour and he had to start in the exact same spot on the stage! These are talented people-they can work around a glitch or two. I'm ok with a few mistakes or ad libs and I think most fans are too.
WatchChain
07-21-2017, 03:12 PM
if I remember well they supposedly arrived with special aircraft, performed and then left again all just in the nick of time and without sleeping anytime in between;
Cool! I wonder where they got the energy and stamina to travel without sleeping and perform another date NON STOP with very little rest? I love the Mac, they are real troopers for their fans!
Macfan4life
07-21-2017, 03:53 PM
What I'd like to know is what got them to the point where everything is so meticulously rehearsed. I know there's been discussion about filling in the sound with the backup musicians/singers but I remember reading here once about Lindsey having to start Tusk over on the last tour and he had to start in the exact same spot on the stage! These are talented people-they can work around a glitch or two. I'm ok with a few mistakes or ad libs and I think most fans are too.
I would use the word programmed instead of rehearsed. Bands have always rehearsed. Today there are computer monitors with lyrics, back up singers, pre-programmed keyboards, and Lord knows what else.
I have said this before but the Mirage tour was the last Mac tour of just pure and raw arena rock. In 1987 came back up singers, added percussionists, etc. The Dance created a studio sound at their live concerts. Its technology in the modern age of music. But I miss the arena rock and the unpredictability that comes with it. There are so many flubs on this US Festival concert. The opener Chain has almost a complete break down after the bass solo until the band catches its groove back to finish the song. Its almost like being at a rehearsal. This is how rock n roll is supposed to be.
bombaysaffires
07-21-2017, 04:39 PM
she clearly is having some difficulty hearing herself as she keeps fiddling with her ear.... they didn't have in-ear monitors then, just the speaker monitors on the floor in front of you, and those often drowned out by all the amplifiers behind you from all the instruments... or you can't hear the other singers.... and you end up straining your voice.
I would use the word programmed instead of rehearsed. Bands have always rehearsed. Today there are computer monitors with lyrics, back up singers, pre-programmed keyboards, and Lord knows what else.
I have said this before but the Mirage tour was the last Mac tour of just pure and raw arena rock. In 1987 came back up singers, added percussionists, etc. The Dance created a studio sound at their live concerts. Its technology in the modern age of music. But I miss the arena rock and the unpredictability that comes with it. There are so many flubs on this US Festival concert. The opener Chain has almost a complete break down after the bass solo until the band catches its groove back to finish the song. Its almost like being at a rehearsal. This is how rock n roll is supposed to be.
Programmed instead of rehearsed--you did a better job of describing it. :xoxo:
gldstwmn
07-22-2017, 11:35 AM
Hoo boy. The best thing about this is Lindsey's beautifully tailored clothing. What got thrown on stage? Is Stevie wearing an ear monitor? She's high AF. She and Chris look great though.
bombaysaffires
07-22-2017, 02:36 PM
"highness" is relative... I mean I tended to think she seemed mostly ok on this one-- she was well aware she mucked up the verses, and I love how she gets that embarrassed "oh ****" look on her face and tries to hide by putting her arms on her head. She didn't get overly distracted (just a bit) by whatever someone threw on the stage toward her....... there are shows where she's just singing gibberish and clearly doesn't even realize it, etc....... she got much, much worse as time went on.....
as for the band "letting" her take some notes lower--- what are they gonna do, put a gun to her head? If she can't reach the notes, she can't reach the notes. Tweak the song to save the show and not have everyone talking afterwards in reviews and such about how badly she missed a high note.
Danielle
08-03-2017, 07:54 PM
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dreamsunwind
08-03-2017, 08:30 PM
The sound on all these videos sucks ass. Upsetting that when they're finally being released it's in this wonky sound quality.
That being said, I love how Mick's drums and Lindsey's guitar sound at the opening of the song. Stevie sounds quite good too, but then idk if it's the sound or her voice cracking or whatever, the ending is kinda rough, sounds more like she's just shouting instead of singing. Christine's harmony tho....yikes.
SisterNightroad
08-04-2017, 03:25 PM
I've always wanted to see this video and I'm not disappointed, in its rawness it's still fabulous.
jbrownsjr
08-04-2017, 04:54 PM
I've always wanted to see this video and I'm not disappointed, in its rawness it's still fabulous.
Same here... and the sound is only one speaker....
I don't need it to be perfect. Raw is always better for me. The harmonies on most of these have been off.
TheWildHeart67
08-04-2017, 07:32 PM
HELL YES! Thanks for posting!!!!!!!! :xoxo::]:blob2:
<iframe width="854" height="480" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/GCwKDgiDuVY?ecver=1" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
Her voice sounds like ****, as in most of her Us Festival performances. Drugs and booze starting to take their toll.
SisterNightroad
08-05-2017, 07:39 AM
Raw is always better for me.
https://i.giphy.com/media/XRBl2zuuAa1Z6/giphy.webp
David
08-13-2017, 09:42 PM
A friend of mine said these US Festival videos should have been on the Mirage deluxe release.
I said, no, they should have BEEN the Mirage deluxe release.
TheWildHeart67
08-13-2017, 09:45 PM
I would have been happy with the HBO show on DVD on the "mirage" deluxe
SisterNightroad
09-22-2017, 04:00 PM
New video of Love in Store!
<iframe width="854" height="480" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/EOZ0at0ZKU4" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
I merged all the threads about the Vevo channel Us festival videos in this one so they can be found more easily.
HomerMcvie
09-22-2017, 04:44 PM
^^^
I love it!
Especially without all the overdubs they did for the Mirage video.
Wdm6789
09-22-2017, 06:22 PM
Ugh, finally. They are taking forever with these uploads. Great video, but I think I like the Mirage video better. I really want Sara and Hold Me. How long have we been waiting for a Hold Me live video from 1982? And I really want a Sara live from 1982.
bwboy
09-22-2017, 07:59 PM
The few clips I've seen from the U.S. festival, I much more prefer over the Mirage concert. But I noticed in both performances of Love in Store just how much Stevie enjoys singing that song, even mouthing the words when she's not at the mike. That's cool to see, and a compliment to Christine, that Stevie liked the song so much.
iamnotafraid
09-23-2017, 02:25 AM
SisterNightroad,
How much longer is our wait for the blu ray?
SisterNightroad
09-23-2017, 05:34 AM
SisterNightroad,
How much longer is our wait for the blu ray?
You can read here the last update about the film release: http://ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/showthread.php?p=1215011#post1215011
September is almost over, I wonder now what could have happened to the director to further slow things down.
Macfan4life
09-24-2017, 08:09 AM
The few clips I've seen from the U.S. festival, I much more prefer over the Mirage concert. But I noticed in both performances of Love in Store just how much Stevie enjoys singing that song, even mouthing the words when she's not at the mike. That's cool to see, and a compliment to Christine, that Stevie liked the song so much.
We all love this song and want it back in the set.
Its such a great sing along song with all 3 vocalists.
TheWildHeart67
09-24-2017, 08:14 AM
We all love this song and want it back in the set.
Its such a great sing along song with all 3 vocalists.
I also LOVE "Love in store." Fantastic in concert. I also have always loved "Eyes of the world" in concert.
Fiver
10-31-2018, 02:25 AM
Picture quality not as good as the rest but I'll take it:
<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/bfkFO9gBMBs" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>
jbrownsjr
10-31-2018, 07:47 AM
Thanks Fiver! What a great version of Songbird.
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