Rolling Stone streaming "Feel About You"

[tothegypsy]

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/premieres/hear-buckingham-mcvies-bubbly-new-song-feel-about-you-w478996

[MikeVielhaber]

I like it. Is this a Christine written song or a co-write?

[The Chain]

I like this a lot:nod:

[SorcererJP]

Not too enthusiastic overhere. Sounds too plastic, polished and sweet to my ears.

[TrueFaith77]

I'm at work. And it won't open on my phone. Freaking out! So excited. :blob1::woohoo::eek:

[louielouie2000]

I'm really shocked at how much of a Tango vibe these songs are exhibiting. Totally not the direction I thought this album would take. This song is a bit overproduced and bubblegum for my tastes, but it's great to hear such an uplifting song from Chris again after all those dark tunes on In The Meantime.

[Murrow]

I like it. Is this a Christine written song or a co-write?

It's a co-write. Check Wikipedia entry at en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lindsey_Buckingham/Christine_McVie

[KenB]

Much better choice for a single than In My World. More Mac-like, too; especially the lovely harmonies. I like it a lot. Still, there are a few slow moments (mostly in the transitions from the chorus back to the verse) that I'm surprised Lindsey didn't fill in a little more lushly with production. Almost like he was leaving some holes for a third voice to fill in...

[kenzo]

Goosebumps.

[24karatstevie]

I like it. It definitely gives me some Tango vibes and even though Tango isn't my favorite, I appreciate them going for a more classic sound. This song is interesting, and I think this is shaping up to be a quirky little album. But most importantly, it's so good to hear Chris!!!

[AliceLover]

Yuck times two. Disappointed.

[bombaysaffires]

Very Lindsey sounding. This sounds like it must have been his music and maybe her lyrics. hard to say. It has that sort of retro 50s feel a lot of his music like on Mirage had. :shrug:

He's going with that spare production sound... not full, but lots of tinkly, clinky, plonky individual instrument sounds, not as "orchestral" as past stuff.

This almost sounds like a commercial jingle, or the theme song to a goofy tv show.

I'm not blown away.

I am somewhat disappointed with the lyrics... her lyrics on In the Meantime were so rich, and descriptive and emotive and.....this is very, very spare. And rather trite. :shrug:

ok trying to figure out the line "you're the honey in my tea/ your ????? tastes sweetest to me". Can anyone else decipher the word she says??

[AncientQueen]

I like it. It's cute, a tad too sugary, but a nice song.

[Lee]

Not too enthusiastic overhere. Sounds too plastic, polished and sweet to my ears.

ITA, really pop sounding. Is that Christine or Lindsey singing lead? I can not tell which :shrug:

Lee :confused:

[MoonSister75]

I love it! Totally unexpected sound and I much prefer it to IMW. It's so sweet and uplifting. Well done Lindsey and Christine!! Some magic here :blob1: Love the guitar at the end, and the harmonies ...

(some of the lyrics are bordering on being slightly cheesy but I'm ok with that:nod:)

[sands of time]

This almost sounds like a commercial jingle, or the theme song to a goofy tv show.



:lol::lol::lol: You just completely ruined the song for me!

[TrueFaith77]

perfection bliss sublime joy beautiful

[jkmaletic]

In My World was "ok" to me. This one is just awful. Sounds like a song from Sesame Street or the Teletubbies.

Jamie

[sue]

Well, I hope this grows on me...it's certainly not grabbing me.
The tunes isn't too bad, that might improve with listening..
But the lyrics, not great, like taken from '"The song Writers Book of Lyrics"

[MoonSister75]

perfection bliss sublime joy beautiful

Yes! It put a huge smile on my face, my daughter started bopping along to it, and I no longer feel tired after waking at 4am. Magic :D

These artists are almost 70, or just over... I'm so impressed

[tango87]

Yes, I like it... Hasn't grabbed me as much straight away as In My World did - a bit bouncy... Love the harmonies... Reminscent of things like Holiday Road, in a way... Hmmm... I'll keep listening.

But it's wonderful to hear those two voices together again.

[Richard B]

A sweet, summer pop song that Christine knows how to craft. I like the "magnet and steel" lyric. ;)

[MikeVielhaber]

Funny how people refer to the lyrics for reason they don't like the song. I've heard it twice and dont know a single word of it outside of "That's how I feel about you". At least none that stick in my mind. They don't affect my enjoyment one way or the other.

[Jondalar]

I love the harmonies. That is totally Fleetwood Mac.

[tango87]

Growing on me.

Love how the opening rhythm trips you up, like GYOW - takes a moment to find the beat. Nice old Lindsey trick.

[TrueFaith77]

I was only able to listen to the song twice during my lunch break. But I keep singing it in my head and bopping/shimmying to it.

My best friend who really prefers Christine over Lindsey and Stevie, texted me this:

omg
beautiful
it's very christine
and she sounds great!!

[button-lip]

Very Lindsey. Very Tango. Very FM. I love it! :blob1::blob1:

[Jondalar]

Very 1950's like Oh Diane.

[MoonSister75]

Very 1950's like Oh Diane.

hmmm... some small similarities, But Oh Diane is one of my least favourite songs, and I love this.

[StevieandChris]

Love it! Much better choice for a single!

Starting smiling the minute I heard Christine.

Yay!:):):)

[SisterNightroad]

So cute! Though I agree in part with some critics about the production and lyrics, it's much better suited as a single.

[TrueFaith77]

Love it! Much better choice for a single!

Starting smiling the minute I heard Christine.

Yay!:):):)

Yes what a moment!!!

She's back!!!!

[ViscountViktor]

Not a fan of the marimba and the off beat rhythms, comes across as a bit amateur/basic to me. And the weird guitar into the chorus?

Cringed at the Christine lyrics - sorry, but they have absolutely no substance. They're almost Mystified quality (that's not good). And just repeated again for the second verse. "I am a magnet...you are steel." Ouch.

I do like the harmonies in the chorus, very think Think About Me with Lindsey popping up with a line.

It did get my foot tapping as well, and yes it's great to have Christine back singing, and nice for it to be both of them.

Prefer In My World.

[Jondalar]

Not a fan of the marimba and the off beat rhythms, comes across as a bit amateur/basic to me. And the weird guitar into the chorus?

Cringed at the Christine lyrics - sorry, but they have absolutely no substance. They're almost Mystified quality (that's not good). And just repeated again for the second verse. "I am a magnet...you are steel." Ouch.

I do like the harmonies in the chorus, very think Think About Me with Lindsey popping up with a line.

It did get my foot tapping as well, and yes it's great to have Christine back singing, and nice for it to be both of them.

Prefer In My World.

The lyrics are ok. They remind me of Stevie's Cheaper than Free, which I liked better than most people. The harmonies are EXCELLENT!

[lennonfan]

I really love this new song, very Tangoish Mac yet more simple....I'm enjoying this much more than IMW and I think this could use some serious airplay.

[stevierocks87]

In My World was "ok" to me. This one is just awful. Sounds like a song from Sesame Street or the Teletubbies.

Jamie

This.


Awful :sorry:

[NotonRodeo]

Now this is more like it. Best Christine song since Everywhere. (Actually it's better than Everywhere.) And for all those who are complaining about its lyrics, how are these any worse than those of Everywhere, Got a Hold on Me, or Over My Head? What were you expecting, a commentary on global warming? It's a typical bouncy Christine love song made memorable by Lindsey's offbeat production ideas. If this sounds like Tango II, well and good!

*bounces* :blob1::blob1::blob1:

[Murrow]

Yeah the playful sort of lyrics "magnet/steel" "honey in my tea" etc don't really become Christine somehow.

[secondhandchain]

Very Everywhere ish to me. The back and forth vocals. I like it a lot. It's unexpected and has that FM creative production. THESE PEOPLE ARE 70. Let's be happy. :blob1:

[secondhandchain]

Now this is more like it. Best Christine song since Everywhere. (Actually it's better than Everywhere.) And for all those who are complaining about its lyrics, how are these any worse than those of Everywhere, Got a Hold on Me, or Over My Head? What were you expecting, a commentary on global warming? It's a typical bouncy Christine love song made memorable by Lindsey's offbeat production ideas. If this sounds like Tango II, well and good!

*bounces* :blob1::blob1::blob1:

You nailed it. Not as sugary as Everywhere if you ask me.

[KenB]

Lyrics have never been the point of Christine's or Lindsey's songs. They're always one notch above meaningless. Within the scope of the song as a whole, that turns out to be part of the appeal, because it forces you to pay attention to the way they sonically interact with the music, rather than focus on the meaning. In fact, I'd go so far as to say that Lindsey in particular actually EMBRACES vapid lyircs, often. It's a deliberate part of his style.

So yeah, I like this song.

[wheart]

Great little song. The bridge in the middle sounds unfinished, like it needs a vocal or instrumentation. It's too spare. Hearing this song does make me a little sad that this never became a Fleetwood Mac album...but it's still great music nonetheless. I agree with others about the lyrics

[dontlookdown]

Not really liking this new song at all. Too "lite" for my taste.
Someone else said it reminded them of a Paul McCartney solo song -- agree.

Yes it's poppy, but it's also cloyingly sweet.

I'm jonesing for a roaring guitar solo - we haven't heard one in either of these two songs.

I will say this though: it's great to hear Christine back with Lindsey Buckingham steering the ship. I thought "In The Meantime" was slow, lazy, boring and generic.

[dontlookdown]

Yeah the playful sort of lyrics "magnet/steel" "honey in my tea" etc don't really become Christine somehow.

Yes. And Walter Egan already claimed Magnet/Steel decades ago. He owns that metaphor now.

[BombaySapphire3]

I am now beginning to see why It's my World was the first single.

[secondhandchain]

Listen on headphones folks....amazing!!!!!! I'm am more thrilled with this song on each listen. Pure FM and pure Lindsey quirky magic. Blows In my world away in my opinion. The simple guitar then the in your face back and forth harmonies are amazing. LOVE LOVE LOVE IT!

[BombaySapphire3]

Yes. And Walter Egan already claimed Magnet/Steel decades ago. He owns that metaphor now.

Yep and he wrote that song about an unrequited love for Stevie so they are picking her pocket as well.:lol:

[lennonfan]

musicians influencing each other. What is the world coming to?

[FuzzyPlum]

What a strange little song. My immediate thought was to liken it to 'Paper Doll'.
This sounds so 1980's.
I kind of like this...but I'm not sure. I don't know quite what to make of it.
I really like the quirky extended ding ding ding ding ding ding ding bits.

[xhector]

My first reaction: hmm not so sure, production this and that...

Third listen: but it has some cool things, and the chorus is quite nice...

Now:
THAT'S HOW I FEEL, UH UH, :blob1:
YOU ARE THE SKY AT NIIIIGHT, BLACK AND WHIIITE... (UH UH) :woohoo:
YOU'RE SO BEAUTIFUUUL... :nod:

[jbrownsjr]

What a strange little song. My immediate thought was to liken it to 'Paper Doll'.
This sounds so 1980's.
I kind of like this...but I'm not sure. I don't know quite what to make of it.
I really like the quirky extended ding ding ding ding ding ding ding bits.

I'm with you. I don't know what to make of it. I like the song. I don't like the voicing. JKM is right.. it has a sesame street feel to it.. but the melody is amazing. Stand by for 100 more listens.

Now, everyone sit down, I need to say something.. I found myself wanting Stevie on this. Why, I have no idea. But I did.. there I said it.

[Hawkeye]

Now this is more like it. Best Christine song since Everywhere. (Actually it's better than Everywhere.) And for all those who are complaining about its lyrics, how are these any worse than those of Everywhere, Got a Hold on Me, or Over My Head? What were you expecting, a commentary on global warming? It's a typical bouncy Christine love song made memorable by Lindsey's offbeat production ideas. If this sounds like Tango II, well and good!

*bounces* :blob1::blob1::blob1:

In my world has been available for 2 weeks and feel about you has been available just today. I've already listened to feel about you more. This song is great. And I immediately thought Everywhere too. But much better then Everywhere. I've never actually liked everywhere at all. But I'm loving this.

I think the thing I love most about this is, and it's not something I even realized was lacking until today. This is what hearing a new Fleetwood Mac song sounds like?! I thought I felt this in 2003, but I now truly understand what many others have said about that album. Tons of great music, and I love say you will and will continue to, and it absolutely IS Fleetwood Mac because Mick and John are there, but not one song has that cohesive feel of all the members of the band being together at once and creating a new song, especially on the vocal front. I us to think half of the harmonies on say you will sounded organic and the other half were way too painfully obvious that stevie was just laying vocals over long done songs(Miranda being my worst offender) But now I see not one song stevie and Lindsey have recorded together this century touch the vocal cohesion of this song. And the significant prescience of PIANO is a VERY needed element in the rumours band fleetwood Mac sound. Rumours era Fleetwood Mac are NOT meant to be a power trio (have to specify era of the band there, others definitely can)


And on the other end, I like this better then anything on in the meantime. And that's weird because there's a lot of great stuff on there. Really not all that different then this new song. But the superior rhythm section and Lindsey's production elevated Christine so much. Lindsey and Chris are such a perfect musical marriage.

Now I'm not anointing this Christine's greatest song of all time. I'm sure there will even be other songs on this new album that are better. But there might not be a song I listen to more just for the uniqueness of this experience. Hearing a newly created truly fleetwood Mac sounding fleetwood Mac song.

[Hawkeye]

I'm with you. I don't know what to make of it. I like the song. I don't like the voicing. JKM is right.. it has a sesame street feel to it.. but the melody is amazing. Stand by for 100 more listens.

Now, everyone sit down, I need to say something.. I found myself wanting Stevie on this. Why, I have no idea. But I did.. there I said it.

That's funny, I was literally thinking of how you kept talking about all your plays of In My World and thinking it sounded a little crazy but now with this song I'm right with you on feeling like I have to force myself to to not hit repeat again:laugh: and it turns out your not immediately drawn to this one.

[jbrownsjr]

That's funny, I was literally thinking of how you kept talking about all your plays of In My World and thinking it sounded a little crazy but now with this song I'm right with you on feeling like I have to force myself to to not hit repeat again:laugh: and it turns out your not immediately drawn to this one.

I'm as shocked as you are!! But, I won't lie. lol

[kenzo]

I think this is the best single from FM personnel - either solo or in whatever combination - in 30 years.

[jbrownsjr]

That's funny, I was literally thinking of how you kept talking about all your plays of In My World and thinking it sounded a little crazy but now with this song I'm right with you on feeling like I have to force myself to to not hit repeat again:laugh: and it turns out your not immediately drawn to this one.

And I'm certainly glad you are enjoying it. I'm wondering if Elle will like it.

[MoonSister75]

Listen on headphones folks....amazing!!!!!! I'm am more thrilled with this song on each listen. Pure FM and pure Lindsey quirky magic. Blows In my world away in my opinion. The simple guitar then the in your face back and forth harmonies are amazing. LOVE LOVE LOVE IT!

Agree, agree and agree - it's divine played through headphones :nod:

[FuzzyPlum]

I think this is the best single from FM personnel - either solo or in whatever combination - in 30 years.


Is it up there with As Long As You Follow, Love Shines, Heart of Stone, Bleed to Love Her, Sad Angel (not even touching on solo) ???

[MoonSister75]

Is it up there with As Long As You Follow, Love Shines, Heart of Stone, Bleed to Love Her, Sad Angel (not even touching on solo) ???

not sure about solo, but I'd say it is up there with all those songs - a great catchy pop tune with the old FM magic

[lennonfan]

not sure about solo, but I'd say it is up there with all those songs - a great catchy pop tune with the old FM magic

I personally like it more than those. I'm very, very pleased with this new song. It has the Mac magic in the groove and the feel is so uplifting.

[Hawkeye]

Is it up there with As Long As You Follow, Love Shines, Heart of Stone, Bleed to Love Her, Sad Angel (not even touching on solo) ???


We'll I don't what criteria were going off of, but if we're JUST going off of straight how much we like the songs that were released as singles then from that batch only Heart of Stone is way better to me. And I'd add save me The if we include solo I'd say Stevie's sorcerer, for what it's worth 24 karat gold and starshine are better.

But if we're referring to the single as how effective it is at making one really excited for the coming album or if it would cause a casual fan to then purchase the album then I agree 100 percent with maybe the exception being Secret Love. That song gave me a lot if confidence in how good in your dreams would be and later lived up to that.

[Hawkeye]

And now I'm even getting elements going all the way back to did you ever love me off of oenguin which has always been one of my favorites. Especially the intro.

[justcrazylove]

What an absolute joy it is to hear Christine, brought just about the biggest smile to my face in years. :blob1::blob1::blob1:

Love the song, this is the MAC!

[TrueFaith77]

It's on iTunes now. Listening to tracks 2&3 back to back. I prefer 3! They are both great!

In other words, 2 makes 3 better.

This is going to be a massive album.

[justcrazylove]

It's on iTunes now. Listening to tracks 2&3 back to back. I prefer 3! They are both great!

In other words, 2 makes 3 better.

This is going to be a massive album.

If you have Sleeping Around The Corner also, the music really starts to make sense in terms of the feel of the record. For all the ridiculous comments being made about the new material, for mine I think this record is going to be ****ing amazing!

[TrueFaith77]

If you have Sleeping Around The Corner also, the music really starts to make sense in terms of the feel of the record. For all the ridiculous comments being made about the new material, for mine I think this record is going to be ****ing amazing!



Yes, I have Sleeping. And I looove it. I just don't want to mess up my listening by playing a "demo" in context of the other two final tracks but I'm sure I will do it soon anyway. :D

[Hawkeye]

Incantnfind sleeping around the corner anywhere. I know it was a bonus reading of seeds,we,sow but can't find thebootuon to listen to it even purchase it anywhere

[elle]

Incantnfind sleeping around the corner anywhere. I know it was a bonus reading of seeds,we,sow but can't find thebootuon to listen to it even purchase it anywhere
you gotta buy it on itunes.

[Bandon]

BRAVO! :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

[Andy Man]

Awesome track. Youthful, positive, and plays out of my speakers like a breath of fresh air.

Two things:

1 - The track proves the genius of Christine McVie. She is simply a master of the pop song. It sounds so simple with lyrics that are far from complex. However, the melody, the harmonies, the fact that you have the song stuck in your head after one listen...genius. And I agree with another poster in terms of listening through headphones; the lush harmony, instrumentation, Lindsey's guitar mixed with Christine's rhythmic piano playing is all so beautiful and incredibly intricate. The thing about Christine's writing is that when you listen to her songs you understand that there is a lot more going on musically other than a hook; her music is "sophisticated" pop that comes from both the heart and the mind. She is one of the most intelligent pop writers of the last 50 years.

2 - Why did Stevie pass this up? As I listen to Feel About You and In My World I swear I hear Stevie's voice harmonizing with the other two...then I remember that she is not there. This album will be superb and it is a shame that it will not get the same audience, or interest, that it would had it been released as a Fleetwood Mac studio project. I respect Stevie greatly, however this is a missed opportunity for all. I respect Lindsey and Christine even more for continuing on...both of these tracks feel like time and consideration went into every millisecond; clearly this album will be the result of passion and artistry.

[Kubrick2788]

I would agree with the person who said Lindsey is vapid...I think we just disagree on whether it's intentional or not :)

[jbrownsjr]

Awesome track. Youthful, positive, and plays out of my speakers like a breath of fresh air.

Two things:

1 - The track proves the genius of Christine McVie. She is simply a master of the pop song. It sounds so simple with lyrics that are far from complex. However, the melody, the harmonies, the fact that you have the song stuck in your head after one listen...genius. And I agree with another poster in terms of listening through headphones; the lush harmony, instrumentation, Lindsey's guitar mixed with Christine's rhythmic piano playing is all so beautiful and incredibly intricate. The thing about Christine's writing is that when you listen to her songs you understand that there is a lot more going on musically other than a hook; her music is "sophisticated" pop that comes from both the heart and the mind. She is one of the most intelligent pop writers of the last 50 years.

2 - Why did Stevie pass this up? As I listen to Feel About You and In My World I swear I hear Stevie's voice harmonizing with the other two...then I remember that she is not there. This album will be superb and it is a shame that it will not get the same audience, or interest, that it would had it been released as a Fleetwood Mac studio project. I respect Stevie greatly, however this is a missed opportunity for all. I respect Lindsey and Christine even more for continuing on...both of these tracks feel like time and consideration went into every millisecond; clearly this album will be the result of passion and artistry.

Once I got passed the weird marimba sounding keys.. I am starting to hear the sophistication of this tune. Brilliant!

[BLY]

This song should get radio play. If it was released as a Fleetwood Mac track it most definitely would. If the album gets promoted as Fleetwood Mac's Lindsey Buckingham and Christine McVie (like rollingstone.com) it may just get the play it deserves. This is classic Fleetwood Mac!

[aleuzzi]

Okay....I LOVE this!

I've had a rough day and this just healed me.

I love when she bends her voice on the "sky at night" line.

It's pop confection, pure and simple, but it works. I do wish the vocals weren't processed, especially since it's clear Christine's tone and pitch are fully intact, but I can see why the voice was mucked with to fit the pop atmosphere.

[dontlookdown]

I was kind of hoping it would sound more like this:


http://www.npr.org/sections/allsongs/2017/04/27/525451648/haim-announces-first-album-in-4-years-shares-new-video-from-p-t-anderson

[secondhandchain]

Listening to Sleeping Round the Corner, Feel About You, and In my World in a row on headphones gives me GREAT hope for this album. :blob1::blob1:
I also like In My world a thousand times more in context of those three songs.

[TrueFaith77]

I also like In My world a thousand times more in context of those three songs.

Isn't that weird??!

I had the same experience. The breezy joy of those first two tracks lends gravity and depths to IMW.

All three make an incredible statement of love and longing--an ideal expressed from various vantages.

It's going to be a great album.

[michelej1]

I am somewhat disappointed with the lyrics... her lyrics on In the Meantime were so rich, and descriptive and emotive and.....this is very, very spare. And rather trite. :shrug:



Were here Meantime lyrics rich and descriptive? I thought Dan's were, but not hers.

The background vocals give it a beat that reminds me of Mick's percussion on Honey Hi.

I'm not crazy about the song, but it's more intricate than it sounds at first hearing.

Michele

[secret love]

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/premieres/hear-buckingham-mcvies-bubbly-new-song-feel-about-you-w478996

The greatest song yet from this album!!

Only quibble: the original title of How I Feel was a much stronger title.

[Phil]

This is an extremely embarrassing effort on Christine's part. Her voice is thin and overly processed, but that doesn't even compare to the atrocious lyrics. I think it's pretty obvious why Stevie didn't participate in this recording. The irony is that she perhaps could have saved both this and In My World with some sympathetic vocal harmonising, but even Stevie has her standards...

[Jondalar]

This is an extremely embarrassing effort on Christine's part. Her voice is thin and overly processed, but that doesn't even compare to the atrocious lyrics. I think it's pretty obvious why Stevie didn't participate in this recording. The irony is that she perhaps could have saved both this and In My World with some sympathetic vocal harmonising, but even Stevie has her standards...

Yeah, her standards are Street Angel and The Other Side of the Mirror... Ha, ha, ha, ha! Two masterpieces, blahhhh, ha ha ha ha

and her harmonizing on Without You on Extended Play was atrocious!!!!! and it was her own song!

[Phil]

Originally Posted by Jondalar
Yeah, her standards are Street Angel and The Other Side of the Mirror... Ha, ha, ha, ha! Two masterpieces, blahhhh, ha ha ha ha

and her harmonizing on Without You on Extended Play was atrocious!!!!! and it was her own song!

I (mostly) agree with you - Street Angel was an abomination and the re-recording of Without You was exceptionally poor but I'm rather fond of The Other Side Of The Mirror to this day (I still think Rupert Hine is her best producer). The point I was making is that Stevie's standards can be incredibly low but she hasn't gone quite as low as "Feel About You" (or the In The Meantime album for that matter).

[MikeVielhaber]

I (mostly) agree with you - Street Angel was an abomination and the re-recording of Without You was exceptionally poor but I'm rather fond of The Other Side Of The Mirror to this day (I still think Rupert Hine is her best producer). The point I was making is that Stevie's standards can be incredibly low but she hasn't gone quite as low as "Feel About You" (or the In The Meantime album for that matter).
So you think she actually heard the new songs and said "this music sucks, I'm not doing it" ? While elsewhere saying she's sure its good because its Christine McVie, as though she's hasn't even heard it.

[BombaySapphire3]

So you think she actually heard the new songs and said "this music sucks, I'm not doing it" ? While elsewhere saying she's sure its good because its Christine McVie, as though she's hasn't even heard it.

Either way the album that she left town to do (24KG) while Fleetwood Mac was at the Village working on their album is a masterpiece in comparison with what we have heard so far.If these are the two best songs on Buckingham/McVie then I am grateful that it did not end up being the final album for the Rumours five. Tango has it flaws but is still light years better than this.

[Phil]

Well it's difficult to gauge since Stevie is so arrogant these days, she probably wouldn't bother listening to the Mac recordings. I strongly suspect she has no regard for Lindsey as a producer any more and I wouldn't be surprised if she thought Christine's songwriting abilities now stunk. It's been apparent for years that Stevie is quite disingenuous, particularly when commenting on the band and various members.

[Jondalar]

I (mostly) agree with you - Street Angel was an abomination and the re-recording of Without You was exceptionally poor but I'm rather fond of The Other Side Of The Mirror to this day (I still think Rupert Hine is her best producer). The point I was making is that Stevie's standards can be incredibly low but she hasn't gone quite as low as "Feel About You" (or the In The Meantime album for that matter).

And the point I'm making is everything on Street Angel or The Other Side of the Mirror shows she has a lower standard than Feel About You. MUFF GARBAGE!!!!!!!!!!!!

[TrueFaith77]

And the point I'm making is everything on Street Angel or The Other Side of the Mirror shows she has a lower standard than Feel About You. MUFF GARBAGE!!!!!!!!!!!!

Rooms on Fire, Blue Denim, Greta ... I love those songs.

Do I love them more than Feel About You or In My World?

[jbrownsjr]

Rooms on Fire, Blue Denim, Greta ... I love those songs.

Do I love them more than Feel About You or In My World?

Rooms on Fire is a great song!

[dontlookdown]

This is an extremely embarrassing effort on Christine's part. Her voice is thin and overly processed, but that doesn't even compare to the atrocious lyrics. I think it's pretty obvious why Stevie didn't participate in this recording. The irony is that she perhaps could have saved both this and In My World with some sympathetic vocal harmonising, but even Stevie has her standards...

Agree about the song 100%.
Although not about Stevie not participating. I think she just wanted to do her own thing.

[sue]

From what I have heard so far.....it's pretty average.
I am glad that this is not the final Album from Fleetwood Mac.
I'm glad for L and C that they got some music out there.
But would feel very deflated if this was the Macs swan song...
Who knows maybe after the given two years sabbatical ???

[BigAl84]

i think people are missing the point. Stevie doesnt write simple, fun pop songs for the most part. Thats why they had such a magic balance. Something as heavy as Storms or Sara had a counterbalance with Think About Me or Honey Hi.

I love how Feel About You slides right onto the shelf of Pop Mac songs. Hold Me > Feel About You > Goodbye Angel is AMAZING.

[blinker12]

I'm not very impressed with this song - either musically or lyrically. But it is still wonderful to hear Christine's voice on record again.

Even better is hearing John's playing. Maybe I'm feeling overly sentimental about him since his health scare, but those bass runs toward the end of the chorus? I just want to reach out and given them a hug. 🤗

[sue]

i think people are missing the point. Stevie doesnt write simple, fun pop songs for the most part. Thats why they had such a magic balance. Something as heavy as Storms or Sara had a counterbalance with Think About Me or Honey Hi.

I love how Feel About You slides right onto the shelf of Pop Mac songs. Hold Me > Feel About You > Goodbye Angel is AMAZING.

No I agree totally....you have a juxtaposition of songs with a Mac Album due to three different writers.
And as I said, I personally am glad this ain't a Mac Album.

[BigAl84]

Im probably going way way against the grain with this thought, but i have always thought it was both a blessing and the right move Silver Springs didnt make it onto Rumours. Not because it isnt a fantastic song, but I dont want to know is such a wonderful bright spot on a pretty heavy album. The balance of that whole album shifts with SS added. Too much gin, not enough tonic.

[jcalzaretta]

I have not been impressed at all yet. I had high hopes.

[Jondalar]

Im probably going way way against the grain with this thought, but i have always thought it was both a blessing and the right move Silver Springs didnt make it onto Rumours. Not because it isnt a fantastic song, but I dont want to know is such a wonderful bright spot on a pretty heavy album. The balance of that whole album shifts with SS added. Too much gin, not enough tonic.

Silver Springs is a Tusk song, not a Rumours song. It had the wrong energy. I Dont Want To know brought the right energy to the album. That album was blessed. All the right decisions were made to make it perfect.

[MikeVielhaber]

Silver Springs is a Tusk song, not a Rumours song. It had the wrong energy. I Dont Want To know brought the right energy to the album. That album was blessed. All the right decisions were made to make it perfect.

What do you mean Silver Springs is a Tusk song?

[TrueFaith77]

Im probably going way way against the grain with this thought, but i have always thought it was both a blessing and the right move Silver Springs didnt make it onto Rumours. Not because it isnt a fantastic song, but I dont want to know is such a wonderful bright spot on a pretty heavy album. The balance of that whole album shifts with SS added. Too much gin, not enough tonic.

I agree with you.

Silver Springs is the great b-side and the great The Dance re-discovery.

That's its proper place in history.

[Jondalar]

What do you mean Silver Springs is a Tusk song?

It belonged on Tusk. It had that offbeat energy.

[button-lip]

It belonged on Tusk. It had that offbeat energy.

For a while I thought they couldn't be more wrong when they decided not to include in on Rumours, but once I started loving Tusk, Silver Spring sounded more and more like a Tusk song.

[button-lip]

This song should get radio play. If it was released as a Fleetwood Mac track it most definitely would. If the album gets promoted as Fleetwood Mac's Lindsey Buckingham and Christine McVie (like rollingstone.com) it may just get the play it deserves. This is classic Fleetwood Mac!

I missed those classic FM sounds so much! :cool:

[FuzzyPlum]

It belonged on Tusk. It had that offbeat energy.

For a while I thought they couldn't be more wrong when they decided not to include in on Rumours, but once I started loving Tusk, Silver Spring sounded more and more like a Tusk song.

well, I don't know what the timeline was as far as Silver Springs' writing but now you mention it I actually think it'd fit more on the White album. For me it has the same sort of vibe

[Hawkeye]

well, I don't know what the timeline was as far as Silver Springs' writing but now you mention it I actually think it'd fit more on the White album. For me it has the same sort of vibe

Now that you say that, 100 percent agree, BUT literally impossible since she didn't see that sign to inspire the song until on tour for the white album

[ViscountViktor]

Yes Christine has always written cheesy pop songs but the lyrics in the hits have been so much better than this offering. Honey in my tea? Magnet you are steel? It's awful.

[Say You Will]

Silver Springs is a Tusk song, not a Rumours song. It had the wrong energy. I Dont Want To know brought the right energy to the album. That album was blessed. All the right decisions were made to make it perfect.

When I first heard Silver Springs on the radio, I actually thought it was a new song for the follow up to Rumours. Took me a few weeks to find out it wasn't.
I liked it because to me it sounded like a Rumours type song.
I was in for a big shock when the Tusk single came out a few months later.

[MoonSister75]

Yes Christine has always written cheesy pop songs but the lyrics in the hits have been so much better than this offering. Honey in my tea? Magnet you are steel? It's awful.

Yes Christine has her fair share of cheesy lyrics in previous songs ....

So slip your hand inside of my glove
Hold me, hold me, hold me


I think the lyrics you've pointed out are on the cheesy side, and they bothered me slightly on the first listen, but I'm ok with them now.

The honey in tea, reminds me of Honey Hi and I love that song. Magnet and Steel make me think of the Walter Egan song and the 70's.

[dreamsunwind]

^^ IA. I like Christine's songs but her lyrics have always been mostly embarrassing in my opinion... They sound like a Hallmark card. Lindsey isn't some great poet but his can be quite clever and sarcastic but Christine is always like a rhyme a little kid would come up with.

[aleuzzi]

Yes Christine has her fair share of cheesy lyrics in previous songs ....

So slip your hand inside of my glove
Hold me, hold me, hold me


I think the lyrics you've pointed out are on the cheesy side, and they bothered me slightly on the first listen, but I'm ok with them now.

The honey in tea, reminds me of Honey Hi and I love that song. Magnet and Steel make me think of the Walter Egan song and the 70's.

The line you cite from Hold Me isn't cheesy, imo. It's some clever, dirty sex punning.

[aleuzzi]

Were here Meantime lyrics rich and descriptive? I thought Dan's were, but not hers.

The background vocals give it a beat that reminds me of Mick's percussion on Honey Hi.

I'm not crazy about the song, but it's more intricate than it sounds at first hearing.

Michele

Some of them were pretty good, I thought. A bit edgier than her usual. But I don't listen to Christine for the lyrics.

[MoonSister75]

The line you cite from Hold Me isn't cheesy, imo. It's some clever, dirty sex punning.

I agree. I love Hold Me including that line, it's perfect for the song. I also now like the Honey in tea, and Magnet and Steel lines in the new song.

But I can also see how they could be viewed/described as cheesy.

I think Christine's songs and these kind of lyrics are so important to the balance in FM - she adds the not-so-serious, light heartedness :woohoo:

[MoonSister75]

^^^ maybe there is a better word then cheesy.. one that doesn't sound so negative.

[michelej1]

^^ IA. I like Christine's songs but her lyrics have always been mostly embarrassing in my opinion... They sound like a Hallmark card. Lindsey isn't some great poet but his can be quite clever and sarcastic but Christine is always like a rhyme a little kid would come up with.

Lindsey's last 3 solo albums had some great, complex lyrics. Did You Miss Me was the exception, not the rule. In My World is totally DYMM. Michele

[michelej1]

Some of them were pretty good, I thought. A bit edgier than her usual. But I don't listen to Christine for the lyrics.

For months I had nightmares of being killed by the Jack of Hearts, after that album came out.

Calumny and Northern Star had beautiful words, though I was depressed they were not hers. Michele

[michelej1]

I (mostly) agree with you - Street Angel was an abomination and the re-recording of Without You was exceptionally poor but I'm rather fond of The Other Side Of The Mirror to this day (I still think Rupert Hine is her best producer). The point I was making is that Stevie's standards can be incredibly low but she hasn't gone quite as low as "Feel About You" (or the In The Meantime album for that matter).

Both of those songs are masterpieces, compared to Cheaper than Free. Michele

[michelej1]

Yes Christine has always written cheesy pop songs but the lyrics in the hits have been so much better than this offering. Honey in my tea? Magnet you are steel? It's awful.

Even Little Lies lyrics have a cleverness to them that is absent here. And I think SYLM's words are simple, wicked, woeful and wonderful.

Michele

[michelej1]

So you think she actually heard the new songs and said "this music sucks, I'm not doing it" ? While elsewhere saying she's sure its good because its Christine McVie, as though she's hasn't even heard it.

Yeah. That's not what happened at all. Her position had nothing to do with quality. Although, it amuses me to imagine that.

Plus, she was going to think Lindsey's songs were horrible no matter what. She thought Tusk was garbage. She's no barometer of good music. Michele

[michelej1]

I would not think these are the best songs on the album, by any stretch. I can believe that they were thought to be the most hooky, which is why they were released first. Michele

[TrueFaith77]

At the beginning r those keyboards or steel drums?

[dontlookdown]

From what I have heard so far.....it's pretty average.
I am glad that this is not the final Album from Fleetwood Mac.
I'm glad for L and C that they got some music out there.
But would feel very deflated if this was the Macs swan song...
Who knows maybe after the given two years sabbatical ???


Agree.
Feel About You is pretty mediocre.
Let's not forget this is the person who wrote Honey Hi, Brown Eyes and Oh Daddy. She is capable of masterpieces, so I'm hoping these are just the lazy commercial singles and there are more innovative creative songs on the album.

I'm a tough crowd. But I want Obama level music and all I've heard so far is just Trump.

[michelej1]

See, you guys taught me about the marimba. I wouldn't know what to call it without you. So, in concert, will Christine come to the middle of the stage with a marimba, Lindsey guitar and huddle together to give an intimate performance of this song?

I can see her just letting Brett do keyboards and she would just go up with a mic and a set of maracas to sing with Lindsey. It should be a sweet live presentation.

The recording ... the artificiality distracts me. Lindsey has sped up his voice and I keep looking around for a little girl in the room.

Lindsey, just because you and Stevie sounded like you were on helium on the Buckingham Nicks album, does not mean you have to leave the way you came. I love you. Don't go out like that, dude.

Michele

[GypsySorcerer]

Agree.
Feel About You is pretty mediocre.
Let's not forget this is the person who wrote Honey Hi, Brown Eyes and Oh Daddy. She is capable of masterpieces, so I'm hoping these are just the lazy commercial singles and there are more innovative creative songs on the album.

I'm a tough crowd. But I want Obama level music and all I've heard so far is just Trump.

I really don't care for "Feel About You" at all. I'm glad to hear Chris' voice again, but this song is just too lightweight. I hope the other songs are better. :sorry:

[aleuzzi]

I really don't care for "Feel About You" at all. I'm glad to hear Chris' voice again, but this song is just too lightweight. I hope the other songs are better. :sorry:

The great news is that we finally have more music forthcoming! These musicians are conscious of balance and flow. I'll bet there are less pop-sugar moments on the album that dig a bit deeper than the lead singles do. We have eight more chances!

For what it's worth, I love both the new songs, but I wouldn't be entirely satisfied with them if they were issued alone without the context of a forthcoming album.

[button-lip]

Now, everyone sit down, I need to say something.. I found myself wanting Stevie on this. Why, I have no idea. But I did.. there I said it.


I was listening to Behind the Mask this morning and thinking how indeed Stevie makes the difference in every song she takes part of.
And I'm sure it was Chris and Lindsey's wish to have her there with them, because they also know she makes a great contribution to their songs, and they probably said it to her.
But, what can you do if she doesn't want to participate? You do your best effort and hope for the best.

That's why I don't understand some Stevie's fans wanting for this album to fail. :shrug:

[BLY]

[QUOTE=button-lip;1208524]I was listening to Behind the Mask this morning and thinking how indeed Stevie makes the difference in every song she takes part of.
And I'm sure it was Chris and Lindsey's wish to have her there with them, because they also know she makes a great contribution to their songs, and they probably said it to her.
But, what can you do if she doesn't want to participate? You do your best effort and hope for the best.

I agree with the above statement. I also want to mention all those "outtakes" from the reissues where Stevie's voice was so much more prominent and ended up buried in the mix on the final cut used......Shame!

[ViscountViktor]

The harmonies in the chorus would be amazing in an FM three part.

Also don't think those Hold Me lyrics are cheesy, they had context in the song, this is just a load of clichés thrown.

[aleuzzi]

The harmonies in the chorus would be amazing in an FM three part.



I agree. Stevie would have blended in very nicely on both songs, but this one in particular.

[Say You Will]

And I'm sure it was Chris and Lindsey's wish to have her there with them, because they also know she makes a great contribution to their songs, and they probably said it to her.


Ironic how we said the same thing about Chris on Lindsey and Stevie's songs on Say You Will.:)

[HomerMcvie]

because they also know she makes a great contribution to their songs, and they probably said it to her.


BAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Yeah, this? Sorry, it would NEVER happen(and I don't believe EITHER one of them thinks this).:lol::lol::lol:

[button-lip]

BAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Yeah, this? Sorry, it would NEVER happen(and I don't believe EITHER one of them thinks this).:lol::lol::lol:

Hey, I said that! Don't be mean to me! :(:( :lol:

Well, maybe not a great contribution but a necessary one. :shrug:

I could have use her voice in "Feel About You". It could have made the song a bit nicer. Just a bit.

[MusicInferno]

It's a sweet little song.

Sounds a bit demo-ish or unfinished somehow and the vibe and production (the intro especially) remind me of something like a Caribbean holiday commercial. :)

[HomerMcvie]

Hey, I said that! Don't be mean to me! :(:( :lol:

Well, maybe not a great contribution but a necessary one. :shrug:

I could have use her voice in "Feel About You". It could have made the song a bit nicer. Just a bit.

But I wasn't quoting you...:confused:

You're one of my favorite posters!:wavey:

I'm saying I don't think LB or CM thinks she adds anything of value to their songs.

One of my favorite FM moments is in the Tusk doc outtakes disc...they're in the studio, and she's talking to them all, trying to give suggestions on how she wants a song's harmonies to sound. Except they're ignoring her. COMPLETELY IGNORING HER. She finally gives up, and circles her finger around the side of her head, implying that they're all crazy. Yeah, they value her input! :lol:

[button-lip]

But I wasn't quoting you...:confused:

You're one of my favorite posters!:wavey:

I'm saying I don't think LB or CM thinks she adds anything of value to their songs.

One of my favorite FM moments is in the Tusk doc outtakes disc...they're in the studio, and she's talking to them all, trying to give suggestions on how she wants a song's harmonies to sound. Except they're ignoring her. COMPLETELY IGNORING HER. She finally gives up, and circles her finger around the side of her head, implying that they're all crazy. Yeah, they value her input! :lol:

Maybe she isn't capable of giving any technical advices, which is totally understandable, given the fact that she was never interested in learning anything. :lol:
But an extra voice on a song (even hers) is most of the times welcomed, and I have to admit I like how their three voices blend. Even today. :shrug:

[sue]

I'm not sure about the three part harmonies these days.
Stevies voice is very low, so low that don't the backing singers
Contribute an awful lot when they are on tour.

I am not saying Christines or Lindseys voices are any better either.
The harmonies would be very different, Lindsey would have to do a lot of high pitched "whispering"

[michelej1]

One of my favorite FM moments is in the Tusk doc outtakes disc...they're in the studio, and she's talking to them all, trying to give suggestions on how she wants a song's harmonies to sound. Except they're ignoring her. COMPLETELY IGNORING HER. She finally gives up, and circles her finger around the side of her head, implying that they're all crazy. Yeah, they value her input! :lol:

Remember when she's saying that she didn't hear any singing on Sara, because there WAS no singing on Sara. And she said something to Christine about the piano I think and Christine was like, "Oh sorry. Sorry." That was pretty funny.

But one of the reasons they ignored her is that most of her comments were self-centered about her songs and her spotlight and not designed to benefit the set as a whole.

Michele

[michelej1]

What's strange about FM these days is that even with the back up singers, I rarely hear them create good harmonies on stage. Beautiful Child was the exception. Yes, I know Stevie and Lindsey's voices don't contrast like they used to, but why don't they use the background singers to blend vocals harmonically. They don't. That's what was refreshing when Lindsey teamed with Little Big Town, to hear those harmonies again.

I wish he would tour with Kimberly Schlapmann or, better yet, The Dixie Chicks. He and Emily could both play the banjo -- I know he wouldn't do it, but I would love to see (well hear) that.

Michele

[BLY]

Let's face it these days the "great harmonies" are going to be done in the studio with "Lindsey's magic". The live harmonies went away after the Tusk tour. Mirage was rough(but great) and the Dance well..... Not quite live. I love LBT. The crossroads was fantastic.

[FuzzyPlum]

Let's face it these days the "great harmonies" are going to be done in the studio with "Lindsey's magic". The live harmonies went away after the Tusk tour. Mirage was rough(but great) and the Dance well..... Not quite live. I love LBT. The crossroads was fantastic.

...sorry BLY...racking my brain... what's LBT?
Lesbian Bisexual Transgender???


Edit: Little Big Town!!!! :wavey:

[jkmaletic]

I don't think Stevie (or anyone) could have added anything beneficial to either of these songs. :shrug: They kind of are what they are.
This is THEIR thing. I hope they do well with it. IMO, these first two singles are real clunkers - especially the second one. I'm hoping there's better stuff to come from this collaboration. I'm rooting for them.

Jamie

[Macfan4life]

Each time I listen to the first 2 singles, I find myself liking them more and more. I listened to each about 5 times.

[button-lip]

Each time I listen to the first 2 singles, I find myself liking them more and more. I listened to each about 5 times.

Same here. Couldn't been more happier with their work. :woohoo:

[jbrownsjr]

Remember when she's saying that she didn't hear any singing on Sara, because there WAS no singing on Sara. And she said something to Christine about the piano I think and Christine was like, "Oh sorry. Sorry." That was pretty funny.

But one of the reasons they ignored her is that most of her comments were self-centered about her songs and her spotlight and not designed to benefit the set as a whole.

Michele

"I can't hear the harmonies on this song because nobody is singing them!"
Christine tinkering with the piano... Stevie: "Christine is wearing out that piano"... "Sorry.. oh Sorry... i f'd up.."

something like that.. but not in that order..

[BLY]

I'm just happy I get new music from my all time favorite "Band" solo or together. I will take what ever they want to release. I got into these folks in 1977 and never thought 40 years later I would still be getting NEW MUSIC today. As I have said in many posts before on all the forums, some songs/albums are better then others but.......the true MAC fans (IMO) won't trash any of it or any of them as people. Just enjoy the great music from all these members past and present.

[dontlookdown]

The songs hang together well when played back to back.
I listened to them a few times in the car - loud - and I'm liking Christine's
song more and more.

It's no Love In Store (or Say You Love Me or You Make Loving Fun), but
I'm appreciating it on its own terms.

Holding out hope for some guitar 🎸 solos on other tracks...

[jbrownsjr]

The songs hang together well when played back to back.
I listened to them a few times in the car - loud - and I'm liking Christine's
song more and more.

It's no Love In Store (or Say You Love Me or You Make Loving Fun), but
I'm appreciating it on its own terms.

Holding out hope for some guitar 🎸 solos on other tracks...

i did the same thing and had same results!!

[justcrazylove]

I'm just happy I get new music from my all time favorite "Band" solo or together. I will take what ever they want to release. I got into these folks in 1977 and never thought 40 years later I would still be getting NEW MUSIC today. As I have said in many posts before on all the forums, some songs/albums are better then others but.......the true MAC fans (IMO) won't trash any of it or any of them as people. Just enjoy the great music from all these members past and present.

This times 1000! :thumbsup:

[Say You Will]

I'm just happy I get new music from my all time favorite "Band" solo or together. I will take what ever they want to release. I got into these folks in 1977 and never thought 40 years later I would still be getting NEW MUSIC today. As I have said in many posts before on all the forums, some songs/albums are better then others but.......the true MAC fans (IMO) won't trash any of it or any of them as people. Just enjoy the great music from all these members past and present.


My goodness this is exactly what I feel. Said the same thing to my kids the other day. 40 years later and can still enjoy.
Good to hear from people who feel the same way.:woohoo:

[jbrownsjr]

My goodness this is exactly what I feel. Said the same thing to my kids the other day. 40 years later and can still enjoy.
Good to hear from people who feel the same way.:woohoo:

I'm beside myself knowing that I'm waiting a new album from Christine McVie and Lindsey Buckingham. W/ Mick and John..

It's like a dream come true. And... they're touring!!

[GypsySorcerer]

The songs hang together well when played back to back.
I listened to them a few times in the car - loud - and I'm liking Christine's
song more and more.

It's no Love In Store (or Say You Love Me or You Make Loving Fun), but
I'm appreciating it on its own terms.

Holding out hope for some guitar 🎸 solos on other tracks...

Ugh, it's too much like Love In Store for me. I have never gotten the appreciation for that song. To me, it's far from Christine's capabilities, as is Feel About You.

Here's hoping they released the commercial garbage first and the rest of the album is better. :)

[AlexD]

Assuming SATC is the same, we have the first 3 songs of the album now. In my opinion it's set a really good tone and seems to have a better sound that Seeds We Sow

[TrueFaith77]

Assuming SATC is the same, we have the first 3 songs of the album now. In my opinion it's set a really good tone and seems to have a better sound that Seeds We Sow

Yes, that was that album's failing. Along with the fact that it doesn't follow my preferred tracklist.

[AlexD]

Yes, that was that album's failing. Along with the fact that it doesn't follow my preferred tracklist.

For my taste, the album is way overproduced. The live versions of the SWS songs we heard from Saban Theatre are a lot more exciting.

[dontlookdown]

Ugh, it's too much like Love In Store for me. I have never gotten the appreciation for that song. To me, it's far from Christine's capabilities, as is Feel About You.

Here's hoping they released the commercial garbage first and the rest of the album is better. :)


I've always thought it's one of Christine's best recorded songs. Not because of the lyrics, but because of the melody, the chord progression, the production and the harmonies. It works for the same reason the best songs on Pet Sounds and Revolver work. Try it loud with good headphones -- not earbuds.

[jbrownsjr]

I've always thought it's one of Christine's best recorded songs. Not because of the lyrics, but because of the melody, the chord progression, the production and the harmonies. It works for the same reason the best songs on Pet Sounds and Revolver work. Try it loud with good headphones -- not earbuds.

I have a really nice system in my car.. and it thumps! Believe it or not.. and the steel drums really sound real.

[TrueFaith77]

For my taste, the album is way overproduced. The live versions of the SWS songs we heard from Saban Theatre are a lot more exciting.

Overproduced or poorly produced?

[AlexD]

Overproduced or poorly produced?

Maybe both?

[jbrownsjr]

Maybe both?

I can't get into that album. Much like IYD.. Doesn't flow right.

[AlexD]

I can't get into that album. Much like IYD.. Doesn't flow right.

Same. I really try to, but just can't. I like the new material a lot though. I feel like I get what they're going for this time haha

[jbrownsjr]

Same. I really try to, but just can't. I like the new material a lot though. I feel like I get what they're going for this time haha

I better hear some solos...

[TrueFaith77]

Same. I really try to, but just can't. I like the new material a lot though. I feel like I get what they're going for this time haha

I rarely re-structure albums as a matter of principle, but this is how I just have to play SWS (removing SWS (acoustic), One Take, She Smiled Sweetly, adding SWS (electric) and SATC (bonus))). The first half is up-tempo bangers; second half is sublime melodiousness. In this form, it rivals all of his solo albums for me, instead of ranking a dead last.

1."Seeds We Sow" (electric) - Amazon MP3 download - 3:57
2."Sleeping Around the Corner" - iTunes download - 3:33
3."In Our Own Time" - 4:20
4."Illumination" - 2:19
5."That's the Way That Love Goes" - 3:56
6."Stars Are Crazy" (Lindsey Buckingham, Lisa Dewey) - 4:50
7."When She Comes Down" - 4:48
8."Rock Away Blind" - 3:57
9."Gone Too Far" - 3:24
10."End of Time" - 3:57

[secondhandchain]

I better hear some solos...

When's the last time you heard a guitar solo in a pop song? I think his others will have plenty.

[jbrownsjr]

When's the last time you heard a guitar solo in a pop song? I think his others will have plenty.

1987!!! lol

[lilyfee]

I'm not into the bubbly pop vibe. I think Christine sounds great but the song is seriously reminiscent of an advertising jingle. As with In My World, a catchy chorus could not save the uninspired lyrics. This is a song I'd believe Christine wrote about her dog. :shrug: Like In My World, it is growing on me, however I think that is more indicative of my loyalty to these individuals than the quality of the song.

[WatchChain]

.......Meh......

[wheart]

I'm not into the bubbly pop vibe. I think Christine sounds great but the song is seriously reminiscent of an advertising jingle. As with In My World, a catchy chorus could not save the uninspired lyrics. This is a song I'd believe Christine wrote about her dog. :shrug: Like In My World, it is growing on me, however I think that is more indicative of my loyalty to these individuals than the quality of the song.

Feist's song "1,2,3,4" was in fact an advertising jingle and went on to become a moderate hit. Sounding like an advertising jingle isn't necessarily a bad thing, nor are dumb lyrics. Listen to the majority of the garbage in the top 40. Bad lyrics = big hits.

I do hope this song gets some traction. It deserves it. I have to wonder how it would fare if it were recorded by a younger and more popular artist like Ed Sheeran. The production reminds me a little of Shape of You, although I cannot stand that song.

[brad975]

They had tried to convince Stevie to do this album since 2014. She was surely played some of the tracks during their lengthy tour, and she was surely willing to listen to determine whether or not to proceed with the project.

We'll have to see whether she made the right call on not participating. As the first FM collection with the full classic lineup since 1987, an album with Stevie arguably would have had to live up to higher standards than SYW.

And what I've heard so far doesn't lead me to believe this album would be even as good as that. And given that Stevie doesn't sound so great either these days (or write that well), I'm not sure a few songs from her would have helped it much.

The 10-track length suggests they were saving space for Stevie. Or maybe they held some songs back in the hopes that Stevie might participate in a future album in the next year or two

Say you will, Stevie? Or skip it and make 24K-2.

[Jondalar]

They had tried to convince Stevie to do this album since 2014. She was surely played some of the tracks during their lengthy tour, and she was surely willing to listen to determine whether or not to proceed with the project.

We'll have to see whether she made the right call on not participating. As the first FM collection with the full classic lineup since 1987, an album with Stevie arguably would have had to live up to higher standards than SYW.

And what I've heard so far doesn't lead me to believe this album would be even as good as that. And given that Stevie doesn't sound so great either these days (or write that well), I'm not sure a few songs from her would have helped it much.

The 10-track length suggests they were saving space for Stevie. Or maybe they held some songs back in the hopes that Stevie might participate in a future album in the next year or two

Say you will, Stevie? Or skip it and make 24K-2.

That's just what you want to believe. Whether or not she liked any of the tracks probably didn't have anything to do with it. However, she would be more motivated not to do the project if she liked the songs. She was already outclassed on Tango and wouldn't want to look bad again.

[TrueFaith77]

We'll have to see whether she made the right call on not participating. As the first FM collection with the full classic lineup since 1987, an album with Stevie arguably would have had to live up to higher standards than SYW.



SYW is better than Mirage and Tango.

[lennonfan]

my family loves this song! It's on rotation and just gets better....Mac magic for sure!

[HomerMcvie]

SYW is better than Mirage and Tango.

Good lort, no! Time is better than SYW!!!

[jbrownsjr]

my family loves this song! It's on rotation and just gets better....Mac magic for sure!

It's really flourished on my system, too!

[Say You Will]

SYW is better than Mirage and Tango.

I of course, must agree.:thumbsup:

[Kubrick2788]

Where did the 'SYW is better than...' come from? I think it could be better than Tango, certainly, in an abridged form. But better than Mirage? I don't know about that one... All three of them were still writing some pretty good material (except for Empire State which will never EVER be good). Tough call. Each of those albums have some of the highest highs, but also some of the lowest lows.

This second single though, not a basement dweller like Empire State, but no Gypsy/GYOW/Everywhere either. Pleasant enough...but oh so sappy. Distractingly so.

[secondhandchain]

She sucked on Tango and didn't want to be humiliated again.

[secondhandchain]

.......Meh......

not suprising given your name. Ha.

[BombaySapphire3]

She sucked on Tango and didn't want to be humiliated again.

Except for Seven Wonders which she didn't write and her harmonies on Little Lies yes she did.However Feel About You is worse than any song on Tango or any song on any of the five "Rumours" band studio albums. If it is one of the better songs on the album she would have to really try to be terrible to have some that were even worse.Without You is pretty awful though so she might have a chance.

[button-lip]

They had tried to convince Stevie to do this album since 2014. She was surely played some of the tracks during their lengthy tour, and she was surely willing to listen to determine whether or not to proceed with the project.

We'll have to see whether she made the right call on not participating. As the first FM collection with the full classic lineup since 1987, an album with Stevie arguably would have had to live up to higher standards than SYW.

And what I've heard so far doesn't lead me to believe this album would be even as good as that. And given that Stevie doesn't sound so great either these days (or write that well), I'm not sure a few songs from her would have helped it much.



I don't care if she made the right call on not participating. It's not as if she refused to share her material with FM because she knew the album was gonna fail. She clearly didn't have any material to share. Period.
It's not as if she purposely dodged a bullet. She's not that literate, musically speaking, to know when something doesn't work. Gimme a break!

[michelej1]

Good lort, no! Time is better than SYW!!!

Did you listen to all of SYW? All 18 songs? I thought you didn't.

Michele

[michelej1]

If it is one of the better songs on the album she would have to really try to be terrible to have some that were even worse.

I don't agree with you about Feel About You, but this is pretty funny.

Michele

[StevieandChris]

I like Mirage better than Say You Will, but like Say You Will better than Tango in the Night.

[aleuzzi]

I like Mirage better than Say You Will, but like Say You Will better than Tango in the Night.

Me too. Of all three, SYW has the most substance but Mirage is just so delightful.

[aleuzzi]

Except for Seven Wonders which she didn't write and her harmonies on Little Lies yes she did.However Feel About You is worse than any song on Tango or any song on any of the five "Rumours" band studio albums. If it is one of the better songs on the album she would have to really try to be terrible to have some that were even worse.Without You is pretty awful though so she might have a chance.

I don't agree at all. But I admire your commitment. Your distaste for Feel About You almost matches my absolute and total aversion of Silver Girl and Goodbye Baby.

[HomerMcvie]

Did you listen to all of SYW? All 18 songs? I thought you didn't.

Michele

No, I have, many times. I have the deluxe version, too.

My cousin's roommate had bought it, expecting it to sound like FM....

She absolutely HATED it(Come was specifically mentioned by name to me, being hated), that the whole thing just didn't sound like FM, and gave it to me, a couple of days after purchase.

I must have strange taste, because I LOVE WTWCT, Miranda, SYW(the song), and Peacekeeper. But most of the rest of it, meh, it's boring.

And HOW in TF is Come on a FM album? And I don't mean the (supposed) reference by title. I mean...that it's NOT a song FM should have ever put out. Bunch of geezers with a heavy sexual referenced song. It's creepy, with Lindsey screaming. I hate it, too.

It's like they'd lost their balance, with they released SYW. :wavey:

[BombaySapphire3]

I don't agree at all. But I admire your commitment. Your distaste for Feel About You almost matches my absolute and total aversion of Silver Girl and Goodbye Baby.

It is really a shame that Fleetwood Mac did not allow Christine to participate fully in the recording of SYW .If the worst of Stevie's and Lindsey's songs on there were bumped in favor of her best songs from In the Meantime it could have been one last very good Fleetwood Mac album. Judging by what we heard so far with or without Stevie's participation it seems that ship has already sailed.

[elle]

No, I have, many times. I have the deluxe version, too.

My cousin's roommate had bought it, expecting it to sound like FM....

She absolutely HATED it(Come was specifically mentioned by name to me, being hated), that the whole thing just didn't sound like FM, and gave it to me, a couple of days after purchase.

I must have strange taste, because I LOVE WTWCT, Miranda, SYW(the song), and Peacekeeper. But most of the rest of it, meh, it's boring.

And HOW in TF is Come on a FM album? And I don't mean the (supposed) reference by title. I mean...that it's NOT a song FM should have ever put out. Bunch of geezers with a heavy sexual referenced song. It's creepy, with Lindsey screaming. I hate it, too.

It's like they'd lost their balance, with they released SYW. :wavey:
Ha I remember watching destiny rules doc and thinking exactly THAT - how fantastic that is that the song like Come is now FM?!?!? It sounded so much heavier and rockier... which I think was what Lindsey wanted from that album - moving forward, kinda like he did with Tusk. SYW was his second try at moving fm sound in different and new for them territory. Looking at this board, like tusk, it met a lot of disapproval and resistance because that was not what people expected from FM. Of course now they are back to breezy pop and that is getting resistance too it seems. Since light breezy pop was never really my thing I'm not the best person to judge these new songs. I'm just glad to hear new music from them. But I'm also glad that's not the type of music Lindsey is putting out on his solo albums since I do expect there a more left side of the palette - as advertised. ;)

[BigAl84]

I still love what David Wild said in one of the "Behind The Music Revisited" episodes....paraphrasing here "Everyone associates Fleetwood Mac with easy listening, but really what they do best is uneasy listening"

[TrueFaith77]

I still love what David Wild said in one of the "Behind The Music Revisited" episodes....paraphrasing here "Everyone associates Fleetwood Mac with easy listening, but really what they do best is uneasy listening"

Or as Lindsey said to me (re: SYW): "There's some ballsy stuff on that album!"

[Say You Will]

If music be the food of love, Then play on

[jbrownsjr]

If music be the food of love, Then play on

AMEN!!!!!!!!

[secondhandchain]

I'm thinking I'm going to like the whole album as a whole better then the individual songs. For example I now LOVE You and I part 2 when it is paired with part 1 so much more then when it was on it's own. Part 1 has always been a favorite of mine but now I love them both together.

[BombaySapphire3]

Just curious is this album going to have an explicit content warning label like In the Meantime did for the lyrics "your're honey in my tea your jelly taste the sweetest to me":shrug:

[24karatstevie]

Just curious is this album going to have an explicit content warning label like In the Meantime did for the lyrics "your're honey in my tea your jelly taste the sweetest to me":shrug:
ITM had an explicit warning?:eek:

[BombaySapphire3]

ITM had an explicit warning?:eek:

Yep.. look at it on Amazon it sill does.

[lennonfan]

that Christine...so subversive.

[BombaySapphire3]

that Christine...so subversive.

Yeah got to hand it to her for slipping in such a line as "your jelly taste the sweetest to me"in such an apparently innocuous throwaway pop ditty and at her age!:lol:

[HomerMcvie]

Yeah got to hand it to her for slipping in such a line as "your jelly taste the sweetest to me"in such an apparently innocuous throwaway pop ditty and at her age!:lol:

On the news last night(seriously):

The highest rate of STD in the U.S. now, is among senior citizens. They even said, "thanks, Viagra".

[jbrownsjr]

Yeah got to hand it to her for slipping in such a line as "your jelly taste the sweetest to me"in such an apparently innocuous throwaway pop ditty and at her age!:lol:

LOLOL.... why must you put things like this in my head....

takes me weeks to get them out!! :lol:

[vivfox]

Yeah got to hand it to her for slipping in such a line as "your jelly taste the sweetest to me"in such an apparently innocuous throwaway pop ditty and at her age!:lol:


I don't think you're ready for this jelly.

[bombaysaffires]

Yeah got to hand it to her for slipping in such a line as "your jelly taste the sweetest to me"in such an apparently innocuous throwaway pop ditty and at her age!:lol:

well, jelly becomes more important the older you get.....:eek: :lol:

[Feather Blade]

Yep.. look at it on Amazon it sill does.

Wow, what song(s) was it for? (Sorry, not super familiar with the In the Meantime songs) Thanks...

[jbrownsjr]

well, jelly becomes more important the older you get.....:eek: :lol:

BUCKVIE JELLY

[SisterNightroad]

Well, some need jelly while others prefer coconut oil (https://www.theguardian.com/music/2017/mar/14/mick-fleetwood-mac-sxsw-love-that-burns-book) instead.

[lennonfan]

Next up: the forum examines the lyrics and meaning of Peter Frampton - I'm In You.

[button-lip]

BUCKVIE JELLY

Really?! Do we really have to talk about BuckVie jelly?! :lol:

BuckinghamNicks are not gonna like it. There's only one jelly. And it's 50 years old. Since they were 16 and 17 years old.

I like BuckVie jelly. It makes things interesting. :blob1:

[ViscountViktor]

After multiple listens now, I'm definitely warming to this song, I like the instrumentation and rhythms much more and it's a decent listen until the second verse, where the poor lyrics ruin it for me - food analogies. Yuck :lol:

[HomerMcvie]

Next up: the forum examines the lyrics and meaning of Peter Frampton - I'm In You.

Or Rattlesnake Shake:
Now, I know this guy
His name is Mick
Now, he don't care when he ain't got no chick
He do the shake
The rattlesnake shake
Yes, he do the shake
And jerks away the blues
Now, jerk it

[BombaySapphire3]

After multiple listens now, I'm definitely warming to this song, I like the instrumentation and rhythms much more and it's a decent listen until the second verse, where the poor lyrics ruin it for me - food analogies. Yuck :lol:

I have a feeling that the lyrics were written while sipping tea,eating jelly bread and listening to Walter Egan's "Magnet and Steel":lol:

[vivfox]

I have a feeling that the lyrics were written while sipping tea,eating jelly bread and listening to Walter Egan's "Magnet and Steel":lol:

Her saying Magnet and Steel almost ruins the whole song for me. LOL (And I love the song M&S)