View Full Version : Stevie appears on new Lana Del Rey album
tothegypsy
04-26-2017, 03:21 PM
http://pitchfork.com/news/73100-lana-del-rey-and-stevie-nicks-team-up-for-new-song-on-lust-for-life/
I think this has a lot of potential :)
SisterNightroad
04-26-2017, 03:26 PM
That's fantastic!
Lana mentioned in an interview a little while ago that her producer Rick Nowels, who as we know had worked with Stevie on RAL, was working with Stevie again, then I guess he's the one to thank for this. If he's going to take Dave Stewart's place then he's already done pretty good.
TheWildHeart67
04-26-2017, 03:53 PM
YOU BEAT ME TO IT!
LOL!
I was just going to post this article!
I LOVE this group!!
We are ON top of it! LOL!
24karatstevie
04-26-2017, 03:59 PM
Never really listened to Lana. I know a lot of fans of Stevie are also fans of Lana. I'm interested to hear it!
StevieandChris
04-26-2017, 05:41 PM
Yay, another surprise move!
Who knows what is next?
bwboy
04-26-2017, 06:09 PM
I loved Rick Nowels work with Belinda Carlisle, and I would love it if he was working with Stevie again. Stevie is the one who gave him his big break originally, so it would be awesome to for them to work together again.
Dare I say it... I Can't Wait!
kak125
04-26-2017, 07:15 PM
Wow!!! This is freaking fantastic news! I am such a huge Lana Del Rey fan.
Jondalar
04-26-2017, 07:17 PM
OMFG!!!!!!
I love Lana Del Rey!!!!!!! She is my new Stevie Nicks. Her music is all about atmosphere and her last album was her best. I've been playing her new single over and over.
This makes me forgive Stevie a little. I have all Lanas albums. YES!!!
Jondalar
04-26-2017, 07:26 PM
Lana's last album was critically acclaimed. It wasn't her biggest but critics loved it and I think it was her best. Rick produced it.
jkmaletic
04-26-2017, 08:04 PM
This is cool news. I'm not super familiar with Lana Del Rey, but I LOVE her version of Once Upon a Dream on the Malificent soundtrack. Really haunting.
Jamie
wheart
04-26-2017, 08:11 PM
When I saw this on FB I assumed it was fake news. I am beyond thrilled. I am a huge Lana fan. She definitely has the mysterious vibe going on. Can't wait to hear this song!
Nathan
04-26-2017, 09:52 PM
I'm not the biggest Lana fan but I bet this will be good. SN will probably be on some low harmonies, is my prediction.
Rick Nowels has done lots of cool stuff, Private Dancer album for Tina Turner, to name just one.
Yeah, I bet (hope) this turns out to be good. Something mysterious hopefully, as opposed to the Southern Promises cover SN guested on a couple of years ago. Which was certainly good (and likely relevant for Nicks) but not quite the moody atmospheric thing I'm always hoping for from her.
Ah well, I buy it either way.
BombaySapphire3
04-26-2017, 11:28 PM
Rick Nowels has done lots of cool stuff, Private Dancer album for Tina Turner, to name just one.
It was actually Rupert Hine.. the producer of TOSOTM that did Private Dancer.
bwboy
04-27-2017, 05:54 AM
I believe Rick's first actual production work was for Rock a Little, specifically I Can't Wait. Belinda Carlisle said in an interview that Stevie recommended Rick to Belinda, and he produced and wrote most of her second album Heaven on Earth, which featured most of Belinda's hits and really put him on the map.
I know Stevie and Rick have remained friends and still collaborate together. I'm also quite certain that Rick Nowels is the one Stevie wrote the special thanks for in Rock a Little... something like "it's not easy to track a ghost through the fog, so thank you."
BombaySapphire3
04-27-2017, 08:11 AM
OMFG!!!!!!
I love Lana Del Rey!!!!!!! She is my new Stevie Nicks. Her music is all about atmosphere and her last album was her best. I've been playing her new single over and over.
This makes me forgive Stevie a little. I have all Lanas albums. YES!!!
Somehow I have a feeling that quite a few of us that were disenchanted with her for not participating in a new Fleetwood Mac album will be in a forgiving mood once we hear the Buckingham/McVie album. I'm betting that the album she skipped town to do while the other members of FM were in Los Angeles working on the aborted Fleetwood Mac album will be a masterpiece in comparison .
TheWildHeart67
04-27-2017, 01:22 PM
Somehow I have a feeling that quite a few of us that were disenchanted with her for not participating in a new Fleetwood Mac album will be in a forgiving mood once we hear the Buckingham/McVie album. I'm betting that the album she skipped town to do while the other members of FM were in Los Angeles working on the aborted Fleetwood Mac album will be a masterpiece in comparison .The first BM single "In my World" is horrible. It sounds like a bad Buckingham solo song and you cannot even hear Christine.
BombaySapphire3
04-27-2017, 02:04 PM
The first BM single "In my World" is horrible. It sounds like a bad Buckingham solo song and you cannot even hear Christine.
IMHO it is still better than the second single " Feel About You" even with Christine on it ..not a good sign.
James89
04-27-2017, 03:04 PM
I'm so excited for this collab.
Nathan
04-27-2017, 04:38 PM
It was actually Rupert Hine.. the producer of TOSOTM that did Private Dancer.
Thanks, you're right. I was thinking of Rick working on RAL.
TheWildHeart67
04-27-2017, 10:02 PM
I cancelled my pre-order.
I'm going to legally stream the album on my paid Google Play subscription when it's released before I decide on a purchase.
StreetAngel86
04-28-2017, 06:52 PM
OMFG!!!!!!
I love Lana Del Rey!!!!!!! She is my new Stevie Nicks. Her music is all about atmosphere and her last album was her best. I've been playing her new single over and over.
This makes me forgive Stevie a little. I have all Lanas albums. YES!!!
SAME! BTD paradise WAS my fave
but Honeymoon omg i can listen to it every day.
my wish was for them to collab.
i would never have thought it would actually happen tho <3
StreetAngel86
04-28-2017, 06:53 PM
The first BM single "In my World" is horrible. It sounds like a bad Buckingham solo song and you cannot even hear Christine.
i listened to that spotify clip
and it was so tinny it hurt my ears.
i want to like it
but no.
Jondalar
04-28-2017, 07:48 PM
SAME! BTD paradise WAS my fave
but Honeymoon omg i can listen to it every day.
my wish was for them to collab.
i would never have thought it would actually happen tho <3
Honeymoon is my favorite. It was one of the most atmospheric albums I've listened to. Have great hopes for new album. Love the title track.
Missy
05-01-2017, 06:53 AM
Well - nice to see positive response to this idea. I know that some people don't like Lana but I don't mind her. 'Video Games' was one of my favourite songs from the year it came out. I heard it before I saw what she looked like or knew she was, and it really caught my attention. So it was her sound that hooked me first - not her image.
They're both altos/contraltos, both a bit eccentric and spooky. Looking forward to it. Actually think Stevie is probably better off doing this - moving forward, doing something new - rather than treading over old ground again with FM.
Stevie and Lindsey have been on the road together so much and that can't be easy at times with an ex. Probably quite sick of each other at times and need a break from being tied together.
lilyfee
05-01-2017, 06:28 PM
Would not have thought Stevie would be attracted to Lana's melodramatic style but I'm definitely going to give this song a chance! I loved Born to Die and Paradise but her last few albums have fallen flat for me.:distress: Stevie and Lana have such different voices and styles that it's hard to imagine them working together.
secondhandchain
05-02-2017, 10:12 PM
...yet she couldn't go into the studio with FM. Even for backround vocals. :shrug::shrug::shrug:
SeanJT
05-04-2017, 04:27 AM
A friend in Paris just posted this track list! Take it with a grain of salt in case it's not real. I had to edit the image so I could upload it here. However, it appears that the song Stevie contributes to on the new album is called, 'Smoke and Mirrors'!
SeanJT
05-04-2017, 04:32 AM
Release Date: May 26th by Interscope Records
Genre: Dream Pop, Alternative Pop, Indie
Recording: 2014-2017
01. Lust for Life (featuring The Weekend)
02. Architecture
03. Love
04. Tomorrow Never Came (featuring Sean Lennon)
05. Yosemite
06. Born Again
07. Drive
08. Nightshade
09. Dahlia (featuring Marina and The Diamonds)
10. Smoke and Mirrors (featuring Stevie Nicks)
11. Pin Curls
12. Blue Skies
13. Trauma
Bonus:
14. Pink Moon
wheart
05-04-2017, 07:42 AM
Release Date: May 26th by Interscope Records
Genre: Dream Pop, Alternative Pop, Indie
Recording: 2014-2017
01. Lust for Life (featuring The Weekend)
02. Architecture
03. Love
04. Tomorrow Never Came (featuring Sean Lennon)
05. Yosemite
06. Born Again
07. Drive
08. Nightshade
09. Dahlia (featuring Marina and The Diamonds)
10. Smoke and Mirrors (featuring Stevie Nicks)
11. Pin Curls
12. Blue Skies
13. Trauma
Bonus:
14. Pink Moon
OMG This cannot get any better for me! Not only is there a Stevie collaboration but she is also doing a song with Marina & The Diamonds who I really, really love! Let's hope this info is accurate.
Nathan
05-04-2017, 08:57 PM
Smoke and Mirrors! Cool title. 😎
Jondalar
05-05-2017, 05:15 AM
Her last album was her best. It was on a bunch of critics top 20 list of best albums of the year. Already, the title track is great. I cannot wait for this.
SeanJT
05-05-2017, 06:47 AM
Hey, guys...it looks wonderful, but I will believe it when it really comes out. The one thing we know for sure is that Stevie is on the album because we see it from multiple news sources.
lilyfee
05-06-2017, 02:43 PM
I wonder who wrote it. Smoke and Mirrors doesn't sound like a Stevie title.
SisterNightroad
05-06-2017, 04:28 PM
I wonder who wrote it. Smoke and Mirrors doesn't sound like a Stevie title.
But I'd say it could very well sound like a Lana del Rey song title. Actually I'd say the "Mirror" part is very Stevie while the smoke part is probably very Lana?
nightbird89
05-06-2017, 06:05 PM
But I'd say it could very well sound like a Lana del Rey song title. Actually I'd say the "Mirror" part is very Stevie while the smoke part is probably very Lana?
This, completely!! Definitely could be a co write, and the title is very Lana. I'm a huge fan of her's so this is very exciting to me!
dreamsunwind
05-06-2017, 09:04 PM
lol looking forward to the new crop of hipster stevie fans, first they came from AHS, now lana del ray, i wonder what'll be next
BombaySapphire3
05-06-2017, 09:45 PM
lol looking forward to the new crop of hipster stevie fans, first they came from AHS, now lana del ray, i wonder what'll be next
Maybe she can join the Fleet Foxes:lol:
Jondalar
05-06-2017, 11:18 PM
lol looking forward to the new crop of hipster stevie fans, first they came from AHS, now lana del ray, i wonder what'll be next
Speaking of American Horror Story, Ryan Murphy, its creator also created Feud. The first season was about Betty Davis and Joan Crawfords feud. Since we know he is a fan of Stevie's, let's hope that one of the seasons will be about Stevie and Lindsey's feud.
BombaySapphire3
05-07-2017, 12:34 AM
Speaking of American Horror Story, Ryan Murphy, its creator also created Feud. The first season was about Betty Davis and Joan Crawfords feud. Since we know he is a fan of Stevie's, let's hope that one of the seasons will be about Stevie and Lindsey's feud.
Right ..they can start holding auditions at Night of 1,000 Stevies to find someone to play her.
vivfox
05-07-2017, 09:57 AM
Ironically I just read in a 2014 Hollywood gossip Magazine a quote from Lana Del Ray. She said she had slept with a gazillion guys in the music industry hoping they could further her music career and she said she got her contract from men she never slept with and so all that sleeping around didn't help her at all and was annoyed by that.
BTW, I consider myself very up to date musically but I have never heard of her.
SisterNightroad
05-07-2017, 10:20 AM
Ironically I just read in a 2014 Hollywood gossip Magazine a quote from Lana Del Ray. She said she had slept with a gazillion guys in the music industry hoping they could further her music career and she said she got her contract from men she never slept with and so all that sleeping around didn't help her at all and was annoyed by that.
BTW, I consider myself very up to date musically but I have never heard of her.
Ah ah, well of course if she had already slept with them why should they have helped her for? They'd already got what they wanted for free .
Apart from bad jokes, I'm just a casual fan of her and I seldom heard her on conventional media too. She's not really alternatice but not even mainstream music, which appeals to young hipsters. She's got a sort of vintage and "pained" atmoshpere about her and her music that makes her interesting, at least to me, but at the same time maybe a little too strained/stilted in the long run.
I only caught the singles from her Born to Die album, which then I found good, the single Blue Jeans was used for a TV spot and if I remember well she performed it (badly, unluckily for her) on SNL and I enjoyed very much her contribution for the soundtrack of Big Eyes for Tim Burton. After that I "lost trace" of her.
http://pitchfork.com/news/73100-lana-del-rey-and-stevie-nicks-team-up-for-new-song-on-lust-for-life/
I think this has a lot of potential :)
isn't Lana Del Rey Jimmy Iovine's protégée, like Stevie used to be decades ago? i think he even compared and contrasted them on some talk show few years back when she was just breaking through. makes sense he would connect them to try working together.
edit: here's one of the articles http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/interscope-records-jimmy-iovine-lana-288663
SisterNightroad
05-07-2017, 02:38 PM
isn't Lana Del Rey Jimmy Iovine's protégée, like Stevie used to be decades ago? i think he even compared and contrasted them on some talk show few years back when she was just breaking through. makes sense he would connect them to try working together.
edit: here's one of the articles http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/interscope-records-jimmy-iovine-lana-288663
Yes, I remembered that too, but I think the main catalyst has been Rick Nowels who is Lana's main producer and, as she recently mentioned in an interview, has worked with Stevie again a little while ago.
BombaySapphire3
05-07-2017, 03:29 PM
Yes, I remembered that too, but I think the main catalyst has been Rick Nowels who is Lana's main producer and, as she recently mentioned in an interview, has worked with Stevie again a little while ago.
I wonder what he worked with her on:shrug:
SisterNightroad
05-07-2017, 03:41 PM
I wonder what he worked with her on:shrug:
I don't know, I don't recall ever hearding about him working with Stevie again after TISL, so it might be something we have yet to see.
It was in her inteview with Dazed last month:
CL: Do you have a singular producer or several producers?
LDR: Rick Nowels. He actually did stuff with Stevie Nicks a while ago. He works really well with women. I did the last few records with him. Even with Ultraviolence which I did with Dan (Auerbach), I did the record first with Rick, and then I went to Nashville and reworked the sound with Dan. So, yeah, Rick Nowels is amazing, and these two engineers – with all the records that I’ve worked on with Rick, they did a lot of the production as well. You would love these two guys. They’re just super-innovative. I wanted a bit of a sci-fi f lair for some of the stuff and they had some really cool production ideas. But yeah, that’s pretty much it. I mean, Max Martin –
http://www.dazeddigital.com/music/article/35578/1/lana-del-rey-courtney-love-lust-for-life
BombaySapphire3
05-07-2017, 04:38 PM
I don't know, I don't recall ever hearding about him working with Stevie again after TISL, so it might be something we have yet to see.
It was in her inteview with Dazed last month:
Kind of a vague remark. Awhile ago could mean a few weeks ago or many years.
SisterNightroad
05-07-2017, 04:40 PM
Kind of a vague remark. Awhile ago could mean a few weeks ago or many years.
That's true but 16-7 years seem a bit of a stretch.
Or maybe she doesn't have any idea of what she's talking about, I have to admit that sometimes she gives that impression to me.
StreetAngel86
05-08-2017, 04:49 AM
Would not have thought Stevie would be attracted to Lana's melodramatic style but I'm definitely going to give this song a chance! I loved Born to Die and Paradise but her last few albums have fallen flat for me.:distress: Stevie and Lana have such different voices and styles that it's hard to imagine them working together.
seriously?
i think they're styles and voices are VERY similar
we must be listening to 2 different people.
you do have to remember Lana is only like 30
But I'd say it could very well sound like a Lana del Rey song title. Actually I'd say the "Mirror" part is very Stevie while the smoke part is probably very Lana?
eeep! ita!
i hope it's a co-write
LDR is very old school nostalgia
and Stevie is all mystical fairy tale
it's going to be AMAZING
bwboy
05-08-2017, 06:08 AM
I don't know, I don't recall ever hearding about him working with Stevie again after TISL, so it might be something we have yet to see.
It was in her inteview with Dazed last month:
I believe he co-wrote some songs with Stevie that ended up on Say You Will.
SisterNightroad
05-08-2017, 06:17 AM
I believe he co-wrote some songs with Stevie that ended up on Say You Will.
It's true I didn't remember that, he's listed as a co-writer for Everybody Finds Out, but I don't know which year it dates back to.
BlueLight
05-15-2017, 02:23 PM
According to this post, the song featuring Stevie Nicks is called "Beautiful People":
http://lanadelrey.wikia.com/wiki/Lust_for_Life_(album)
Regardless, very excited for this release.
SisterNightroad
05-15-2017, 02:30 PM
According to this post, the song featuring Stevie Nicks is called "Beautiful People":
http://lanadelrey.wikia.com/wiki/Lust_for_Life_(album)
Regardless, very excited for this release.
Very interesting!
This was the source article:
In that sense, Del Rey is championing the same values as her influential predecessors, few and far as they may be, or as bamboozled by the power systems in which they thrived. Consider “Beautiful People,” where she trades verses and coalesces on the chorus with the one and only Stevie Nicks, of whom I refer to as a bonafide badass. “I didn’t know what to except or that I could even ask her, Del Rey remarks. “When I went through ideas of women that could really add something to the record, she was the one we kept coming back to. ‘Bonafide badass’ is a great phrase for her. She’s really real. And she’s still ****ing touring, which baffles me. There are so few women doing that. You’ve got Courtney Love, who works, sings, tours… there’s not that many women who were making music in the ’70s or ’80s who still make music. It really is pretty crazy.”
http://www.flaunt.com/content/people/lana-del-rey
editme2
05-15-2017, 03:34 PM
Very interesting!
This was the source article:
In that sense, Del Rey is championing the same values as her influential predecessors, few and far as they may be, or as bamboozled by the power systems in which they thrived. Consider “Beautiful People,” where she trades verses and coalesces on the chorus with the one and only Stevie Nicks, of whom I refer to as a bonafide badass. “I didn’t know what to except or that I could even ask her, Del Rey remarks. “When I went through ideas of women that could really add something to the record, she was the one we kept coming back to. ‘Bonafide badass’ is a great phrase for her. She’s really real. And she’s still ****ing touring, which baffles me. There are so few women doing that. You’ve got Courtney Love, who works, sings, tours… there’s not that many women who were making music in the ’70s or ’80s who still make music. It really is pretty crazy.”
http://www.flaunt.com/content/people/lana-del-rey
I'm excited to hear this collaboration, but Lana D. is a bit uninformed about the number of women from the ’70s and ’80s still making music. Joan Jett is still successfully touring and recording; Ann and Nancy Wilson from Heart released an album recently and are still touring; Debbie Harry and Blondie just released a new album; Pat Benatar still tours; Cyndi Lauper is on the road with Rod Stewart; and Stevie's own bandmate, Christine McVie, has a new album coming out and will hit the road this summer. That's a lot of women from that era still out there killing it. Love Stevie, but she's not the only one....
Jondalar
05-15-2017, 04:15 PM
I'm excited to hear this collaboration, but Lana D. is a bit uninformed about the number of women from the ’70s and ’80s still making music. Joan Jett is still successfully touring and recording; Ann and Nancy Wilson from Heart released an album recently and are still touring; Debbie Harry and Blondie just released a new album; Pat Benatar still tours; Cyndi Lauper is on the road with Rod Stewart; and Stevie's own bandmate, Christine McVie, has a new album coming out and will hit the road this summer. That's a lot of women from that era still out there killing it. Love Stevie, but she's not the only one....
That is still not many people and she's not going to give a concise answer.
Jondalar
05-15-2017, 05:50 PM
The song was written in 2015 by Lana and Justin Parker.
lilyfee
05-15-2017, 08:02 PM
seriously?
i think they're styles and voices are VERY similar
we must be listening to 2 different people.
you do have to remember Lana is only like 30
I stand by my opinion! Lana's voice is whispery and silky, whereas Stevie sings in an earnest vibrato. Lana's lyrics are (for the most part) grounded in reality, focusing on themes of youth, lust, and Hollywood. Stevie's are more fairy-tale-esque, focusing on cautionary tales and the pitfalls of real love and personal fulfillment. I say this as a fan of both artists! I'm still very excited to hear the song and find out first hand what they sound like together.:D
Not to mention that working with Lana brings Stevie one step closer to potentially meeting (and dare I fantasize, working with) The Weeknd... That would be so cool!
svnwndrs
05-15-2017, 08:49 PM
I stand by my opinion! Lana's voice is whispery and silky, whereas Stevie sings in an earnest vibrato. Lana's lyrics are (for the most part) grounded in reality, focusing on themes of youth, lust, and Hollywood. Stevie's are more fairy-tale-esque, focusing on cautionary tales and the pitfalls of real love and personal fulfillment. I say this as a fan of both artists! I'm still very excited to hear the song and find out first hand what they sound like together.:D
Not to mention that working with Lana brings Stevie one step closer to potentially meeting (and dare I fantasize, working with) The Weeknd... That would be so cool!
That would be very interesting. Stevie did say recently that she liked his work so maybe that could be in the cards for the future...:blob1:
seanthompson
05-19-2017, 03:55 PM
Thank you, BlueLight, I thought my original entry with the tracklist was iffy, but I'm glad it started a conversation. So looking forward to 'Beautiful People'...if only it would be released as a lead single!
BlueLight
05-19-2017, 04:31 PM
Thank you, BlueLight, I thought my original entry with the tracklist was iffy, but I'm glad it started a conversation. So looking forward to 'Beautiful People'...if only it would be released as a lead single!
Sure thing! I know - I keep checking to see if she's dropping it as a single :)
mitzo
05-19-2017, 07:59 PM
LDR's music has interesting and moody production that would really suit Stevie. I still mourn the fact that she has been so glued to bland guitar-driven backgrounds in her solo work. Her songs always deserved better IMHO.
JimSATX
05-22-2017, 11:09 AM
So it looks like the new track is called "Beautiful People, Beautiful Problems" per Lana's interview:
http://pitchfork.com/news/73699-lana-del-rey-talks-new-stevie-nicks-collaboration-beautiful-people-beautiful-problems/?mbid=social_facebook
I am more excited about this collaboration than Buckingham/Mcvie...
Weird I know...but the first three tracks from Buck/Vie do not entice me ...
Whereas this does...
James89
05-22-2017, 12:24 PM
I am more excited about this collaboration than Buckingham/Mcvie...
Weird I know...but the first three tracks from Buck/Vie do not entice me ...
Whereas this does...
I'm the same!
I'm the same!
I think part of it is the fact that they haven't announced any UK concerts at all....
Well not yet anyway, if they were to do a short tour, I would probably feel very different..
Jondalar
05-22-2017, 03:31 PM
Lana Del Rey created the character Lana Del Rey just like Stevie Nicks created the character Stevie Nicks. They are so much alike!
SisterNightroad
05-24-2017, 04:50 AM
LANA DEL REY ON WORKING WITH STEVIE NICKS: "SHE WAS AMAZING"
The singer opens up about their collab, "Beautiful People, Beautiful Problems."
A month ago, intel leaked about a match in music heaven: Lana Del Rey and Stevie Nicks have a song together. In a new interview, the Lust for Life singer recalled what it was like working with the Fleetwood Mac frontwoman, and revealed the title of their collaboration on her upcoming album: "Beautiful People, Beautiful Problems."
"I kind of thought I had finished the record a couple of times, and then one of those times I really felt like I wanted a woman on the record," Del Rey opened up when she performed at KROQ Weenie Roast y Fiesta over the weekend. "I was talking to my producer, Rick Nowels, about who would be great to get on the record, and we both could only come up with Stevie."
Nowels, who went to high school with and previously collaborated with Nicks, gave the music legend a call and got her on board. The two of them started recording in New York, but she flew back to LA to finish the song the week after.
"She was amazing," Del Rey fawned. "She was everything you hope she’s gonna be. She’s so contemporary, and she knows all the new music that’s out weekly. She loved the track and she added so much to it."
"She's one of those few people I know [where] the muse is the most important thing to her. More than anything else, her priority is following the muse, wherever it takes her, whether it's like a 60-date tour or a new record or solo endeavor. She's inspirational like that."
Listen to her full interview below.
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http://www.harpersbazaar.com/culture/art-books-music/a9917102/lana-del-rey-stevie-nicks-song/
Danielle
06-27-2017, 08:58 AM
Amazing new interview here: http://vmagazine.com/article/lana-del-rey-stevie-nicks-cover-story/?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=Social+
DREAMS UNWIND: LANA DEL REY IN CONVERSATION WITH STEVIE NICKS
STEVIE NICKS Helloooo? Is this you?
LANA DEL REY It’s me!
SN How are you from your little perch in the “H” of the Hollywood sign?
LDR [laughs] Oh, I’m good. I’m sitting comfortably up here. It’s a clear evening, so I can see what everyone is getting up to down in the City of Angels. Thank you for asking.
SN I was wondering, do you think that maybe I could rent the “W”?
LDR You know it is so crazy that you’re asking me that because I was thinking you would actually love to move into the “O.”
SN Well, the reason I picked the “W” is so that I could have an A-frame place, with a big, high ceiling. So, now I’ve decided that if I’m going to live in the “W,” then we’re going to be like witchy sisters, so I have taken on a new name: Marina Del Rey. But wait, it gets better! You know the little Yorkie we brought to the studio? Her name is Mana. She’s gonna be our witchy Yorkie and her name is gonna be Mana Del Rey.
LDR [laughs] Oh my God. It wouldn’t be right if we didn’t have a little witchy guard dog.
SN So, let us start here on your new record. But let us first touch on the fact that your first record was called Born to Die. Now this [record] is Lust for Life. In between that, what is it that affected you enough to go from Born to Die to Lust for Life? Because Born to Die is pretty dark and Lust for Life is pretty light. If you have a lust for life, that’s a pretty strong statement.
LDR Yeah, they’re complete opposites, and it’s funny because when I chose the title, I didn’t think about it right away. It was the title of the first song I wrote for this record. But there are so many things that have gotten me to the point that I’m at now. One of them is just time. And because I do write everything myself, I just wanted to chronicle how I was feeling honestly, in the moment, for each record. So, I had a lot of stories that I wanted to tell that I hadn’t told yet up until this point. And now, through the last four records, I got out a lot of those stories and a lot of those feelings, and for the first time, I’ve caught myself up to real time. And now, I’m at this place where I feel like I’m really present, and when I’m reading the news, I’m really reading it, whereas before I was a little bit in my own head. So, there’s definitely been a feeling of freedom and lightness being in the present moment. That brings on that lust for life feeling, when you don’t have all of those feelings about the past weighing you down. I remember an interview that you did once where you said, “Around every corner there’s an adventure waiting to happen,” and I’m kind of in that zone right now. I just feel like whatever each day brings me is something that I need and I want. It’s just time. Time has brought me here.
SN The way that we write is like we’re writing a diary as our songs go. If I listen to all the songs from Bella Donna, and then I listen to all the songs from Wild Heart, all the songs from Rock a Little, and then I get to The Other Side of the Mirror…I was just thinking about this one song I called “Doing the Best I Can (Escape from Berlin).” It goes, [begins to sing] “It’s all right, baby, I’m doing the best that I can.” I named it that because of this idea of escape. Something horrible was going on in Berlin, and I was also finding my way. I was in a drug-filled fog at that point, fighting for survival. I look back on it and go, You were really trying to survive in 1989. And then I actually went to rehab in 1994 to get off that horrible tranquilizer, Klonopin—from there, I start watching my life come back around, starting with a record I did called Sweet Angel, which was about the aftermath of rehab and coming back into the real world. And from then on, my path started to go up. And if I had not written all those songs, even reading all my journals from that time, they wouldn’t have really told the story, but the songs really told me the story of how bad that whole thing was. And I could watch, through the songs, my life start to come back to me. I think that we put out this running commentary on not just what’s going on in our lives, but what’s going on in the world at the same time. It’s a parallel thing. So, I see you doing the same things as I did.
LDR It’s a delicate balance because you’re chronicling your own story and then you’re also reflecting back what you see. It can take work not to let your world get too small, so that you’re still in both worlds. You’ve got your world with your own inner dialogue and your own narrative and the way that you write, and then there’s everything else. It’s funny, it’s been a minute since I’ve gone through my records, but I did do it recently and I hear so much of my own self and my own stories, but I don’t get as much of the outside world as I thought [I would]. This record is really different. When there were the women’s marches, I was writing about that. There was enough space in my mind to really absorb everything. I think I was very much in the mix of culture in California over the last five years, but it feels good to feel more connected to a wider world.
SN I think we’re all much more connected with what’s going on right now.
LDR That’s true. Regardless of where someone is at personally, the current landscape jolts you into being present, if you’re not crazy. If you’re a normal person, you’re suddenly aware and watching everything.
SN And you are getting up every day and waiting to find out what new thing has happened. I have never been that way before, ever, until the last two and a half years.
LDR It’s a very different time for everybody. Because there is something new every day that you read and you’re like, Oh my God, is that real?
SN My mom used to always say to me, “You’re on a mission here. People out there who are hurting or are sad or have something horrible going on in their lives, when they walk into your house of love or your house of music, you are going to take them on your own little adventure that’s going to pull them out of their life for a minute. And hopefully, when they leave you, they’re going to take a little bit of you with them and they’re going to feel better the next day.”
LDR I love that.
SN I think as songwriters right now, there’s a lot of songs I’d like to write that wouldn’t be very nice songs, but I’m not going to do it because we’re not going to help anybody by doing that. Then we’re just going to be in with the masses and we’re not going to be above the fray. Write your songs, but remember that we’re the ones that are here to lighten, to lighten life, to light the lanterns and the little fairy lights, and try to keep people going. We have to have hope. We have to believe that this will all end up okay and that we’ll all end up okay. Because if we don’t do it, then who the hell is gonna do it?
LDR You’re right, there’s no other way. As far as I’m concerned, there’s really not another way to sensibly think about it. I was never a huge self-editor—I wrote songs and then I felt like, Okay, well that’s that. And now, I’ve found in the last two years that I’ve really been editing some of the language of some of the songs in light of the political landscape, [because] I don’t want to be a part of anything that adds to that negativity.
SN And your record, do you have favorite songs? Do you have ones that have your biggest messages or ones that you think are the most helpful to all the people that love your music? All the old women like me and the little girls that are listening?
LDR I knew that the first song I wanted to put out was “Love” because of everything you and I have been talking about so far. It’s just the age-old thing: love is all there is. And I really was feeling that way. I made a lot of records for myself, chronicling my own stories, and I’ve played so many shows now, I’ve seen all the same kind of kids and grown-ups coming to the shows, and I really wanted to make a record for them. And then, I’ve been friends with Abel [Tesfaye] from The Weeknd for a long time, and I knew I wanted to put the title track, “Lust for Life,” out second because we have so many mutual fans and I knew they would love it. And then “Coachella—Woodstock in My Mind” I wrote on my way home from Coachella when things were getting hostile between North Korea and the U.S., and all those failed missile launches, which happened the day after the first night of the festival. I feel lucky to be able to speak my mind through music right in the present moment. I think one of my favorite tracks on the record is called “Yosemite.” The chorus is [begins to sing] “We did it for fun, we did it for free, I did it for you, you did it for me, we did it for the right reasons.”
SN I love it.
LDR And that’s been the theme of my record: being in touch with what it takes to do things for the right reasons. All the actions that you need to take beyond just the words and all the decisions that I knew I wanted to make this year. And that song is special because it’s really a song about surrounding yourself with people who put their art and love first, who do it for the right reasons, not just for the money. And I have a couple of songs, like “God Bless America,” and another song called, “When the World Was at War We Just Kept Dancing,” which is about what we’ve been talking about: trying to stay positive, and just believing that things are going to be okay. And if it feels like they’re not going to be okay, we’ll try and make them okay individually and then together.
SN I have not heard all these songs.
LDR I want to play them for you the next time I see you! And I’m so proud of the song that we did, “Beautiful People, Beautiful Problems.” I just love your performance on it. The people reading probably don’t know that you know my longtime producer Rick Nowels from high school, basically.
SN I’ve known your producer since he was 13 years old.
LDR He loves you so much, you know.
SN I do. It’s because we’ve been through so much together. My friend Robin [Anderson] died of leukemia and her brother got this terrible brain tumor, so Rick, Lindsey [Buckingham], and I are the survivors of those five people. And then, Rick went on to be this totally famous producer and songwriter. He started with me in 1985 on “Rock a Little,” when Jimmy Iovine dumped me and the record into Rick’s lap and said, “Goodbye, good luck.”
LDR Which is so full circle because he ended up being the head of Interscope, which I’m signed to. There are so many full circle moments.
SN I think all of these little things, in a really fairy tale way, lead me to you and lead you to me in a strange witchy way. It’s set up, like all of these things that happened with my friend Robin, and her brother, and Rick, and everyone moving down here, me being Jimmy Iovine’s girlfriend from 1980 to 1984, then him giving the record and me to Rick, basically saying, “Here, take them both and go.” All of this led to me meeting you and singing on your record. The butterfly’s wings flap in Africa and something is achieved by that butterfly across the world. That’s how this story started, I think.
LDR I don’t know if you said it in the same interview I mentioned earlier, but at some point you said that sometimes you wonder, Does anyone even notice? Sometimes you wonder when you put something out, Does anyone even notice? But it all matters. Every little thing that each person does in their individual life, even when it feels like it’s not a big decision or not a big move, matters. Just being open to beautiful things happening creates them.
SN That sentence was about how sometimes over the last 10 years I would say, “Does anybody really notice that I’m a really good singer now? How much better my voice is than it was 20 years ago?” You have a beautiful voice and I’ve already learned things to add to how I sing from you. Working on your song has changed me forever because I’ve learned from you. We are witchy sisters and that’s it. That’s where “Beautiful People, Beautiful Problems” comes from, because we are trying to ride above all the problems and have hope in everything else, but it’s still a world filled with problems no matter how hard we try to change it.
LDR That’s what that song is about. It was such a special moment. It just goes back to my favorite song on the record, “Yosemite,” and doing it for the right reasons. Here we were in the studio, and when Rick and I were talking about who the other singers should be on the record, you were the only person we could both think of because of your intention and [how] that always comes through in all the music. That really closed the door on the record in the right way. It was the perfect last moment, so thank you for that.
SN Well, I am so happy that the butterfly wings flapped at the perfect time and it made it happen because I think that, in our lives to come, we’ll be able to work on many more songs together, because you know I don’t just want to sing with anybody. I just want to sing with the people that I think can make me better and make something that’s better than both of us singing by ourselves. That’s the only reason for solo artists to sing together.
LDR Amen to that.
SN You know, I think I told you this, but as I travel around the country [touring], I do get to sit down in between [shows] with my friends and hold their hands and laugh about the past, and my one friend that I wrote my first song about—the “I’ve loved and I’ve lost” song I told you about—his name is Steve. I always dedicate the song to him because I was so crazy about him when I was 15 and a half; my parents gave me this guitar and I wrote this little song about him. And I can honestly say that I was as in love with him as I have ever been in love with anybody.
LDR That’s such a beautiful thing to say. I feel the same way. Obviously when you’re at different stages in your life, things hit you harder, or just in different ways, but the way I love has always been the same. I don’t know if that’s just wholeheartedly or maybe you’re only attracted to a certain kind of person, so when that type of person comes around, you really feel it, but when these 15- and 16-year-olds are going through heartbreak, I really feel for them, because it’s real.
SN Lana Del Rey, I think we’ve filled up their entire magazine by now.
LDR You’re amazing and I can’t wait to see you. Maybe it’ll be when you move into the “W.”
SN That’s definitely going to happen soon, like next week.
LDR That’s the dream.
SN That is our dream and we make dreams come true, so it’s going to happen. I can’t wait to see you, too. I hope when people read this interview they know that kindred spirits find each other along the way and that love never dies.
This story has been shortened for web. To read the full interview, order the issue here or pick up your copy on stands July 6.
Jondalar
06-27-2017, 10:30 AM
Amazing new interview here: http://vmagazine.com/article/lana-del-rey-stevie-nicks-cover-story/?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=Social+
DREAMS UNWIND: LANA DEL REY IN CONVERSATION WITH STEVIE NICKS
STEVIE NICKS Helloooo? Is this you?
LANA DEL REY It’s me!
SN How are you from your little perch in the “H” of the Hollywood sign?
LDR [laughs] Oh, I’m good. I’m sitting comfortably up here. It’s a clear evening, so I can see what everyone is getting up to down in the City of Angels. Thank you for asking.
SN I was wondering, do you think that maybe I could rent the “W”?
LDR You know it is so crazy that you’re asking me that because I was thinking you would actually love to move into the “O.”
SN Well, the reason I picked the “W” is so that I could have an A-frame place, with a big, high ceiling. So, now I’ve decided that if I’m going to live in the “W,” then we’re going to be like witchy sisters, so I have taken on a new name: Marina Del Rey. But wait, it gets better! You know the little Yorkie we brought to the studio? Her name is Mana. She’s gonna be our witchy Yorkie and her name is gonna be Mana Del Rey.
LDR [laughs] Oh my God. It wouldn’t be right if we didn’t have a little witchy guard dog.
SN So, let us start here on your new record. But let us first touch on the fact that your first record was called Born to Die. Now this [record] is Lust for Life. In between that, what is it that affected you enough to go from Born to Die to Lust for Life? Because Born to Die is pretty dark and Lust for Life is pretty light. If you have a lust for life, that’s a pretty strong statement.
LDR Yeah, they’re complete opposites, and it’s funny because when I chose the title, I didn’t think about it right away. It was the title of the first song I wrote for this record. But there are so many things that have gotten me to the point that I’m at now. One of them is just time. And because I do write everything myself, I just wanted to chronicle how I was feeling honestly, in the moment, for each record. So, I had a lot of stories that I wanted to tell that I hadn’t told yet up until this point. And now, through the last four records, I got out a lot of those stories and a lot of those feelings, and for the first time, I’ve caught myself up to real time. And now, I’m at this place where I feel like I’m really present, and when I’m reading the news, I’m really reading it, whereas before I was a little bit in my own head. So, there’s definitely been a feeling of freedom and lightness being in the present moment. That brings on that lust for life feeling, when you don’t have all of those feelings about the past weighing you down. I remember an interview that you did once where you said, “Around every corner there’s an adventure waiting to happen,” and I’m kind of in that zone right now. I just feel like whatever each day brings me is something that I need and I want. It’s just time. Time has brought me here.
SN The way that we write is like we’re writing a diary as our songs go. If I listen to all the songs from Bella Donna, and then I listen to all the songs from Wild Heart, all the songs from Rock a Little, and then I get to The Other Side of the Mirror…I was just thinking about this one song I called “Doing the Best I Can (Escape from Berlin).” It goes, [begins to sing] “It’s all right, baby, I’m doing the best that I can.” I named it that because of this idea of escape. Something horrible was going on in Berlin, and I was also finding my way. I was in a drug-filled fog at that point, fighting for survival. I look back on it and go, You were really trying to survive in 1989. And then I actually went to rehab in 1994 to get off that horrible tranquilizer, Klonopin—from there, I start watching my life come back around, starting with a record I did called Sweet Angel, which was about the aftermath of rehab and coming back into the real world. And from then on, my path started to go up. And if I had not written all those songs, even reading all my journals from that time, they wouldn’t have really told the story, but the songs really told me the story of how bad that whole thing was. And I could watch, through the songs, my life start to come back to me. I think that we put out this running commentary on not just what’s going on in our lives, but what’s going on in the world at the same time. It’s a parallel thing. So, I see you doing the same things as I did.
LDR It’s a delicate balance because you’re chronicling your own story and then you’re also reflecting back what you see. It can take work not to let your world get too small, so that you’re still in both worlds. You’ve got your world with your own inner dialogue and your own narrative and the way that you write, and then there’s everything else. It’s funny, it’s been a minute since I’ve gone through my records, but I did do it recently and I hear so much of my own self and my own stories, but I don’t get as much of the outside world as I thought [I would]. This record is really different. When there were the women’s marches, I was writing about that. There was enough space in my mind to really absorb everything. I think I was very much in the mix of culture in California over the last five years, but it feels good to feel more connected to a wider world.
SN I think we’re all much more connected with what’s going on right now.
LDR That’s true. Regardless of where someone is at personally, the current landscape jolts you into being present, if you’re not crazy. If you’re a normal person, you’re suddenly aware and watching everything.
SN And you are getting up every day and waiting to find out what new thing has happened. I have never been that way before, ever, until the last two and a half years.
LDR It’s a very different time for everybody. Because there is something new every day that you read and you’re like, Oh my God, is that real?
SN My mom used to always say to me, “You’re on a mission here. People out there who are hurting or are sad or have something horrible going on in their lives, when they walk into your house of love or your house of music, you are going to take them on your own little adventure that’s going to pull them out of their life for a minute. And hopefully, when they leave you, they’re going to take a little bit of you with them and they’re going to feel better the next day.”
LDR I love that.
SN I think as songwriters right now, there’s a lot of songs I’d like to write that wouldn’t be very nice songs, but I’m not going to do it because we’re not going to help anybody by doing that. Then we’re just going to be in with the masses and we’re not going to be above the fray. Write your songs, but remember that we’re the ones that are here to lighten, to lighten life, to light the lanterns and the little fairy lights, and try to keep people going. We have to have hope. We have to believe that this will all end up okay and that we’ll all end up okay. Because if we don’t do it, then who the hell is gonna do it?
LDR You’re right, there’s no other way. As far as I’m concerned, there’s really not another way to sensibly think about it. I was never a huge self-editor—I wrote songs and then I felt like, Okay, well that’s that. And now, I’ve found in the last two years that I’ve really been editing some of the language of some of the songs in light of the political landscape, [because] I don’t want to be a part of anything that adds to that negativity.
SN And your record, do you have favorite songs? Do you have ones that have your biggest messages or ones that you think are the most helpful to all the people that love your music? All the old women like me and the little girls that are listening?
LDR I knew that the first song I wanted to put out was “Love” because of everything you and I have been talking about so far. It’s just the age-old thing: love is all there is. And I really was feeling that way. I made a lot of records for myself, chronicling my own stories, and I’ve played so many shows now, I’ve seen all the same kind of kids and grown-ups coming to the shows, and I really wanted to make a record for them. And then, I’ve been friends with Abel [Tesfaye] from The Weeknd for a long time, and I knew I wanted to put the title track, “Lust for Life,” out second because we have so many mutual fans and I knew they would love it. And then “Coachella—Woodstock in My Mind” I wrote on my way home from Coachella when things were getting hostile between North Korea and the U.S., and all those failed missile launches, which happened the day after the first night of the festival. I feel lucky to be able to speak my mind through music right in the present moment. I think one of my favorite tracks on the record is called “Yosemite.” The chorus is [begins to sing] “We did it for fun, we did it for free, I did it for you, you did it for me, we did it for the right reasons.”
SN I love it.
LDR And that’s been the theme of my record: being in touch with what it takes to do things for the right reasons. All the actions that you need to take beyond just the words and all the decisions that I knew I wanted to make this year. And that song is special because it’s really a song about surrounding yourself with people who put their art and love first, who do it for the right reasons, not just for the money. And I have a couple of songs, like “God Bless America,” and another song called, “When the World Was at War We Just Kept Dancing,” which is about what we’ve been talking about: trying to stay positive, and just believing that things are going to be okay. And if it feels like they’re not going to be okay, we’ll try and make them okay individually and then together.
SN I have not heard all these songs.
LDR I want to play them for you the next time I see you! And I’m so proud of the song that we did, “Beautiful People, Beautiful Problems.” I just love your performance on it. The people reading probably don’t know that you know my longtime producer Rick Nowels from high school, basically.
SN I’ve known your producer since he was 13 years old.
LDR He loves you so much, you know.
SN I do. It’s because we’ve been through so much together. My friend Robin [Anderson] died of leukemia and her brother got this terrible brain tumor, so Rick, Lindsey [Buckingham], and I are the survivors of those five people. And then, Rick went on to be this totally famous producer and songwriter. He started with me in 1985 on “Rock a Little,” when Jimmy Iovine dumped me and the record into Rick’s lap and said, “Goodbye, good luck.”
LDR Which is so full circle because he ended up being the head of Interscope, which I’m signed to. There are so many full circle moments.
SN I think all of these little things, in a really fairy tale way, lead me to you and lead you to me in a strange witchy way. It’s set up, like all of these things that happened with my friend Robin, and her brother, and Rick, and everyone moving down here, me being Jimmy Iovine’s girlfriend from 1980 to 1984, then him giving the record and me to Rick, basically saying, “Here, take them both and go.” All of this led to me meeting you and singing on your record. The butterfly’s wings flap in Africa and something is achieved by that butterfly across the world. That’s how this story started, I think.
LDR I don’t know if you said it in the same interview I mentioned earlier, but at some point you said that sometimes you wonder, Does anyone even notice? Sometimes you wonder when you put something out, Does anyone even notice? But it all matters. Every little thing that each person does in their individual life, even when it feels like it’s not a big decision or not a big move, matters. Just being open to beautiful things happening creates them.
SN That sentence was about how sometimes over the last 10 years I would say, “Does anybody really notice that I’m a really good singer now? How much better my voice is than it was 20 years ago?” You have a beautiful voice and I’ve already learned things to add to how I sing from you. Working on your song has changed me forever because I’ve learned from you. We are witchy sisters and that’s it. That’s where “Beautiful People, Beautiful Problems” comes from, because we are trying to ride above all the problems and have hope in everything else, but it’s still a world filled with problems no matter how hard we try to change it.
LDR That’s what that song is about. It was such a special moment. It just goes back to my favorite song on the record, “Yosemite,” and doing it for the right reasons. Here we were in the studio, and when Rick and I were talking about who the other singers should be on the record, you were the only person we could both think of because of your intention and [how] that always comes through in all the music. That really closed the door on the record in the right way. It was the perfect last moment, so thank you for that.
SN Well, I am so happy that the butterfly wings flapped at the perfect time and it made it happen because I think that, in our lives to come, we’ll be able to work on many more songs together, because you know I don’t just want to sing with anybody. I just want to sing with the people that I think can make me better and make something that’s better than both of us singing by ourselves. That’s the only reason for solo artists to sing together.
LDR Amen to that.
SN You know, I think I told you this, but as I travel around the country [touring], I do get to sit down in between [shows] with my friends and hold their hands and laugh about the past, and my one friend that I wrote my first song about—the “I’ve loved and I’ve lost” song I told you about—his name is Steve. I always dedicate the song to him because I was so crazy about him when I was 15 and a half; my parents gave me this guitar and I wrote this little song about him. And I can honestly say that I was as in love with him as I have ever been in love with anybody.
LDR That’s such a beautiful thing to say. I feel the same way. Obviously when you’re at different stages in your life, things hit you harder, or just in different ways, but the way I love has always been the same. I don’t know if that’s just wholeheartedly or maybe you’re only attracted to a certain kind of person, so when that type of person comes around, you really feel it, but when these 15- and 16-year-olds are going through heartbreak, I really feel for them, because it’s real.
SN Lana Del Rey, I think we’ve filled up their entire magazine by now.
LDR You’re amazing and I can’t wait to see you. Maybe it’ll be when you move into the “W.”
SN That’s definitely going to happen soon, like next week.
LDR That’s the dream.
SN That is our dream and we make dreams come true, so it’s going to happen. I can’t wait to see you, too. I hope when people read this interview they know that kindred spirits find each other along the way and that love never dies.
This story has been shortened for web. To read the full interview, order the issue here or pick up your copy on stands July 6.
Barf! Why is she lowering herself for this. I hate when she says she learned from Lana Del Rey. Pretty gross!
lulu28
06-27-2017, 12:11 PM
I love, love, love this interview! Stevie is witty and well spoken, as always, and I don't really see the problem with her saying that she learned something from Lana. It's just pure silliness to think that we don't grow, evolve and learn from those around us. Sour grapes as usual!
Thanks Danielle for sharing with us!!! I'm glad you are posting again here. You inspired me to do the same. The haters will always hate. Sucks to be them....
Tango
06-27-2017, 12:49 PM
Thank you Danielle, for taking the time to put the article up.
BlueLight
06-27-2017, 01:24 PM
I love, love, love this interview! Stevie is witty and well spoken, as always, and I don't really see the problem with her saying that she learned something from Lana. It's just pure silliness to think that we don't grow, evolve and learn from those around us. Sour grapes as usual!
Thanks Danielle for sharing with us!!! I'm glad you are posting again here. You inspired me to do the same. The haters will always hate. Sucks to be them....
YES, YES, and YES! :thumbsup:
Love this interview so much. She is absolutely hysterical. And say what you will about LDR, she's smart, has a great aesthetic, and really has tapped into the zeitgeist. Bravo to both! Now, can't wait to hear the song! :woohoo:
bwboy
06-27-2017, 06:20 PM
I really like this interview, too. I especially enjoyed learning a little more about her relationships with Jimmy Iovine and Rick Nowels. Nowels has really come a long way from Rock a Little in 1986, hasn't he?!? And it's cool to see the loyalty between all three of them, as I know Nowels even produced a couple of songs on Trouble in Shangri-La, at a time in his career when he really didn't have to.
Frankenstein
06-27-2017, 06:55 PM
Can someone explain to me the connection between Rick Nowels, Robin/her brother? I don't quite get that part.
bwboy
06-27-2017, 07:57 PM
I don't know, but the impression I got from the interview was that they all knew each other from high school. Didn't Lindsey and Stevie meet in high school? And Rick is a few years younger than Stevie but still could have met her in high school.
Maybe somebody else can confirm.
bombaysaffires
06-27-2017, 08:50 PM
yeah it sounds like they knew each other in high school.
She;s a better singer now... her voice is better now than 20 years ago? Guess it's a matter of perspective........
so now the story is Jimmy walked out and dumped it all on Rick..... other days it's she fired Jimmy-- I think she has said it was due to the Don't Come Around Here No More story......
Lisa W
06-28-2017, 02:56 AM
I don't know, but the impression I got from the interview was that they all knew each other from high school. Didn't Lindsey and Stevie meet in high school? And Rick is a few years younger than Stevie but still could have met her in high school.
Maybe somebody else can confirm.
I recall that Stevie said in a prior interview from years ago that Rick N. was best friends with Robyn's kid brother, so was always around when she spent time with Robyn. This would have been at Arcadia High School in Southern CA before Stevie moved with her family to the Bay Area and met Lindsey.
bwboy
06-28-2017, 05:16 AM
Thanks, Lisa W. One thing that is throwing me off is Stevie's comment that she, Rick, and Lindsey are the survivors of Robyn and her brother. To me, that implies that Lindsey knew them just as well, although I guess he could have been introduced to them by Stevie later, and still become fairly close to them, too.
If Stevie's comments about herself, Rick, Robyn, Robyn's brother and Lindsey are sincere, why does she persist in this never-ending persecution of Lindsey? Why can't she just bury the bloody hatchet? It's obvious she's learned nothing from life - no lessons, sweet nuthin'...
Tango
06-28-2017, 07:41 AM
why does she persist in this never-ending persecution of Lindsey? Why can't she just bury the bloody hatchet?
Good questions. We have read Mick's book and the book by Carol Ann Harris: "Storms: My Life with Lindsey Buckingham and Fleetwood Mac." We only see glimpses of these people. No lawsuits yet.
wheart
06-28-2017, 09:12 AM
yeah it sounds like they knew each other in high school.
She;s a better singer now... her voice is better now than 20 years ago? Guess it's a matter of perspective........
so now the story is Jimmy walked out and dumped it all on Rick..... other days it's she fired Jimmy-- I think she has said it was due to the Don't Come Around Here No More story......
I find Stevie's constant self promotion very unflattering and quite boring.
Tango
06-28-2017, 09:32 AM
I find Stevie's constant self promotion very unflattering and quite boring.
I think Ken Caillat agrees with you:
http://smashinginterviews.com/interviews/authors/ken-caillat-interview-famed-fleetwood-mac-producer-recounts-the-turmoil-and-triumphs-of-rumours
Ken Caillat: Nope. I don’t think so. I did a Christine McVie album in 2003, and I suggested that before Fleetwood Mac ever goes on the next tour maybe they should go into the studio and record a few songs from Christine’s 2005 album. It would be really great because it would be the first Fleetwood Mac/Christine songs in a long time, and it would break through to the radio.
Christine loved the idea. But, who knows? I told that to Mick, but he has no power over anybody. If Stevie thinks that Lindsey thought of something first, she’ll say ‘no,’ and vice versa. They could be doing so well, you know? If they had only listened to me, they could be doing so well. They’re just people. They have ups and downs, and quite honestly, they’re all down now. They could make a lot of people happy if they’d just cut the crap and just be human beings, not anything special.
They’re not friggin’ special, and their crap stinks like everybody else’s, goddamit! They need to just get it through their heads. They need to knock it off and just be real. Nobody gets to put anybody down with power trips. There’s kind of a thing now with abuse, you know? People get drunk and start to manipulate you. It’s a form of abuse. Back then, we were all too young to say, “Hey, knock it off, buddy.” I wish them the best, but I don’t think they’re ever going to do it with their own insecurities and whatever else they’ve got going.
bombaysaffires
06-28-2017, 09:49 AM
I think Ken Caillat agrees with you:
http://smashinginterviews.com/interviews/authors/ken-caillat-interview-famed-fleetwood-mac-producer-recounts-the-turmoil-and-triumphs-of-rumours
Ken Caillat: Nope. I don’t think so. I did a Christine McVie album in 2003, and I suggested that before Fleetwood Mac ever goes on the next tour maybe they should go into the studio and record a few songs from Christine’s 2005 album. It would be really great because it would be the first Fleetwood Mac/Christine songs in a long time, and it would break through to the radio.
Christine loved the idea. But, who knows? I told that to Mick, but he has no power over anybody. If Stevie thinks that Lindsey thought of something first, she’ll say ‘no,’ and vice versa. They could be doing so well, you know? If they had only listened to me, they could be doing so well. They’re just people. They have ups and downs, and quite honestly, they’re all down now. They could make a lot of people happy if they’d just cut the crap and just be human beings, not anything special.
They’re not friggin’ special, and their crap stinks like everybody else’s, goddamit! They need to just get it through their heads. They need to knock it off and just be real. Nobody gets to put anybody down with power trips. There’s kind of a thing now with abuse, you know? People get drunk and start to manipulate you. It’s a form of abuse. Back then, we were all too young to say, “Hey, knock it off, buddy.” I wish them the best, but I don’t think they’re ever going to do it with their own insecurities and whatever else they’ve got going.
^This.
Richard has said the same thing in his original blog-- about the game playing and the being stuck in old feuds and stuff... then he backs off about it. We've all suspected they can be merciless in cutting people out if they decide to.
It's too late for them to change. Mick used the term "co-dependent" and "co-dependent drama" in his Johnny Walker interview a LOT (I just re-listened to it on a flight) and whoever his therapist was that pointed this out to him was spot on. I'm sure they can all be prima donnas in their own ways (they've been famous and spoiled for a loooong time now) but the friction between S&L is pretty brutal, regardless of what gets said in interviews.
Tango
06-28-2017, 09:56 AM
^^EXACTLY. Ken speaks of Richard further down:
There was no responsibility for anybody to take care of anybody else, but they are rich and some of the people like Judy Wong … she was found in her apartment after being dead for a week. Judy did everything for Christine McVie and the band, and for her not to be given whatever she needed … she died toothless. I don’t know. I have a lot of weird feelings about this. I look at Neil Young and Paul McCartney. They still use their same engineers, producers, photographers and people that started with them because they know them well. It’s kind of like a big happy family.
I can’t get Fleetwood Mac tickets. I can’t get through to get tickets. It’s just the weirdest thing. They’re all so self centered and egotistical that they don’t think about anyone. Richard Dashut, the sound engineer, is a miserable guy. He was in an auto accident. He told me that he gave everything away … Grammys, gold records, everything. He said, “You know, for years they cried on my shoulder, and every one of them would talk to me. I was their shrink. Now, Lindsey Buckingham has three kids, and he hasn’t called me once to tell me about them.”
BlueLight
06-28-2017, 11:56 AM
I think Ken Caillat agrees with you:
Well, Ken himself consistently comes across as entitled and self-promoting; really seems like a jerk who consistently tries to rehash decades-old grudges against the band.
Stevie's conversation with LDR was entirely entertaining to me. Yes, she talked about her voice, and her craft, but isn't that the whole point?
gldstwmn
06-28-2017, 12:11 PM
She;s a better singer now... her voice is better now than 20 years ago?
Technically yes it is.
Tango
06-28-2017, 12:13 PM
Well, Ken himself consistently comes across as entitled and self-promoting; really seems like a jerk who consistently tries to rehash decades-old grudges against the band.
Stevie's conversation with LDR was entirely entertaining to me. Yes, she talked about her voice, and her craft, but isn't that the whole point?
Yes, you are right, and I liked the LDR conversation very much as well. I haven't totally made up my mind about Ken. I haven't met him. I did read his book, and I appreciated his perspective. I have read a lot of books on the band, and Ken was sort of an outsider, so it was interesting to get his up-close take on the band. The same with Carol Ann Harris. I suppose they all have their axes to grind, but somewhere, looking at all that is written, we probably have a glimpse of what actually goes on within this band. It was also interesting to hear what Ken had to say about Christine McVie--that he worked on her last album, "In The Meantime," and that she was willing to be a part of an interview on the book--but then backed out, after hearing Lindsey might write his own book, and having of fear of "going against the band." There is a lot of craziness that goes on in this band, but they still tend to pull the wagons around in a circle. When you're out, you're really OUT! Bob Welch spoke of this, too.
Tango
06-28-2017, 12:14 PM
Technically yes it is.
I agree. When I heard Stevie singing on the Buddy Holly special, I was impressed! She still has the power!
gldstwmn
06-28-2017, 12:15 PM
I think Ken Caillat agrees with you:
http://smashinginterviews.com/interviews/authors/ken-caillat-interview-famed-fleetwood-mac-producer-recounts-the-turmoil-and-triumphs-of-rumours
Ken Caillat: Nope. I don’t think so. I did a Christine McVie album in 2003, and I suggested that before Fleetwood Mac ever goes on the next tour maybe they should go into the studio and record a few songs from Christine’s 2005 album. It would be really great because it would be the first Fleetwood Mac/Christine songs in a long time, and it would break through to the radio.
Christine loved the idea. But, who knows? I told that to Mick, but he has no power over anybody. If Stevie thinks that Lindsey thought of something first, she’ll say ‘no,’ and vice versa. They could be doing so well, you know? If they had only listened to me, they could be doing so well. They’re just people. They have ups and downs, and quite honestly, they’re all down now. They could make a lot of people happy if they’d just cut the crap and just be human beings, not anything special.
They’re not friggin’ special, and their crap stinks like everybody else’s, goddamit! They need to just get it through their heads. They need to knock it off and just be real. Nobody gets to put anybody down with power trips. There’s kind of a thing now with abuse, you know? People get drunk and start to manipulate you. It’s a form of abuse. Back then, we were all too young to say, “Hey, knock it off, buddy.” I wish them the best, but I don’t think they’re ever going to do it with their own insecurities and whatever else they’ve got going.
So he doesn't like the big rock star machine yet he helped to create it? Ya gotta dance with the one that brung ya. :shrug:
gldstwmn
06-28-2017, 12:18 PM
Yes, you are right, and I liked the LDR conversation very much as well. I haven't totally made up my mind about Ken. I haven't met him. I did read his book, and I appreciated his perspective. I have read a lot of books on the band, and Ken was sort of an outsider, so it was interesting to get his up-close take on the band. The same with Carol Ann Harris. I suppose they all have their axes to grind, but somewhere, looking at all that is written, we probably have a glimpse of what actually goes on within this band. It was also interesting to hear what Ken had to say about Christine McVie--that he worked on her last album, "In The Meantime," and that she was willing to be a part of an interview on the book--but then backed out, after hearing Lindsey might write his own book, and having of fear of "going against the band." There is a lot of craziness that goes on in this band, but they still tend to pull the wagons around in a circle. When you're out, you're really OUT! Bob Welch spoke of this, too.
I didn't see Carol or Ken as having an axe to grind so much as people didn't like what they had to say. Shooting the messenger and all that...
gldstwmn
06-28-2017, 12:19 PM
I agree. When I heard Stevie singing on the Buddy Holly special, I was impressed! She still has the power!
Her voice is in fine shape. In fact I would go as far to say that her instrument is in the best condition of the three singers.
Tango
06-28-2017, 12:20 PM
So he doesn't like the big rock star machine yet he helped to create it? Ya gotta dance with the one that brung ya. :shrug:
:laugh:
There's a few folks that love the money of da big machine. I have been wondering if that's why Mick (and maybe John) didn't go along on the tour for the album that they performed on. Not enough greenery? Not wanting to associate with smaller venues? If Mick and John came along, what difference would it have made? Would the venues be full? Mick has been using a back up drummer for years. Now I read that Lindsey and Christine aren't always performing live either. Are we seeing the end?
Tango
06-28-2017, 12:22 PM
^^ I find I am in agreement with everything you have written.
gldstwmn
06-28-2017, 12:27 PM
:laugh:
There's a few folks that love the money of da big machine. I have been wondering if that's why Mick (and maybe John) didn't go along on the tour for the album that they performed on. Not enough greenery? Not wanting to associate with smaller venues? If Mick and John came along, what difference would it have made? Would the venues be full? Mick has been using a back up drummer for years. Now I read that Lindsey and Christine aren't always performing live either. Are we seeing the end?
Mick performs in his own restaurant so I have no doubt he loves to play. I don't know if the money was a motivation for not going on this tour. John would rather be off sailing permanently I think. But he also can walk away from a pile of money.
As far as some of the players not playing? I don't know if I'm surprised by that? At their age I would say they could use a little help, who couldn't? They're not full on faking just getting embellishment. The heart might want to play on but the body will only cooperate for so long. I'll take what I can get at this point. It's a miracle they're still breathing after the way they lived their lives in the past.
Tango
06-28-2017, 12:34 PM
It's a miracle they're still breathing after the way they lived their lives in the past.
And that should be the quote of the day. I will see the members of this band in any form they come out. Fleetwood Mac or solo. I don't begrudge Stevie for not falling into step with the band if that was her choice at this time. I don't begrudge Lindsey and Christine for doing their own album. They are all lucky to still have their minds (think of what Peter Green has been through) and lives.
MoonSister75
06-28-2017, 01:20 PM
Danielle, thanks so much for posting the Stevie/Lana Del Rey interview - it was really fun to read :)
bombaysaffires
06-28-2017, 02:57 PM
^^EXACTLY. Ken speaks of Richard further down:
There was no responsibility for anybody to take care of anybody else, but they are rich and some of the people like Judy Wong … she was found in her apartment after being dead for a week. Judy did everything for Christine McVie and the band, and for her not to be given whatever she needed … she died toothless. I don’t know. I have a lot of weird feelings about this. I look at Neil Young and Paul McCartney. They still use their same engineers, producers, photographers and people that started with them because they know them well. It’s kind of like a big happy family.
I can’t get Fleetwood Mac tickets. I can’t get through to get tickets. It’s just the weirdest thing. They’re all so self centered and egotistical that they don’t think about anyone. Richard Dashut the sound engineer, is a miserable guy. He was in an auto accident. He told me that he gave everything away … Grammys, gold records, everything. He said, “You know, for years they cried on my shoulder, and every one of them would talk to me. I was their shrink. Now, Lindsey Buckingham has three kids, and he hasn’t called me once to tell me about them.”
Richard was asked about this point blank on his original blog and he said it is NOT true, and then within a short time posted a photo of himself with all his gold records and grammys to prove it. For some reason he later felt embarrassed about having posted it, but I thought, 'why the hell not?' I mean geez he EARNED all of that, he contributed to all of that, why not be proud of it? If Lindsey wants to rewrite history and try and make out that it was all his own genius on all those albums that just speak to *his* issues.
Tango
06-28-2017, 04:15 PM
Richard was asked about this point blank on his original blog and he said it is NOT true, and then within a short time posted a photo of himself with all his gold records and grammys to prove it. For some reason he later felt embarrassed about having posted it, but I thought, 'why the hell not?' I mean geez he EARNED all of that, he contributed to all of that, why not be proud of it? If Lindsey wants to rewrite history and try and make out that it was all his own genius on all those albums that just speak to *his* issues.
Okay, we have an axe here! Thank you for speaking up.
bwboy
06-28-2017, 04:39 PM
Stevie's conversation with LDR was entirely entertaining to me. Yes, she talked about her voice, and her craft, but isn't that the whole point?
Yeah, you're totally right. Whenever a magazine has a celebrity interview another celebrity, they want the interview to reveal something about both people. Otherwise, the magazine would just have a reporter do the interview. In this case, we really got two interviews for the price of one, so to speak. Out magazine had a great article where Andrew Rannels interviewed Matt Bomer, and it was incredibly entertaining and insightful. By having Stevie interview Lana, Stevie fans learn about someone they may never have been personally exposed to, and vice versa with Lana fans.
Jondalar
06-28-2017, 04:42 PM
^^EXACTLY. Ken speaks of Richard further down:
There was no responsibility for anybody to take care of anybody else, but they are rich and some of the people like Judy Wong … she was found in her apartment after being dead for a week. Judy did everything for Christine McVie and the band, and for her not to be given whatever she needed … she died toothless. I don’t know. I have a lot of weird feelings about this. I look at Neil Young and Paul McCartney. They still use their same engineers, producers, photographers and people that started with them because they know them well. It’s kind of like a big happy family.”
The Judy Wong thing has always bothered me too. I've always thought a little less of Fleetwood Mac when I found out how she died. Chump change from them could of saved her life. They're soo self obsessed.
Tango
06-28-2017, 05:19 PM
The Judy Wong thing has always bothered me too. I've always thought a little less of Fleetwood Mac when I found out how she died. Chump change from them could of saved her life. They're soo self obsessed.
Yes. The entire band has wasted so much money and time. The fact that they are so desperate just this past year to get an album out does not make me particularly sympathetic to any of them.
Jondalar
06-28-2017, 05:51 PM
Yes. The entire band has wasted so much money and time. The fact that they are so desperate just this past year to get an album out does not make me particularly sympathetic to any of them.
They are blessed people. I don't think they realize how lucky they are. All the stars had to have aligned for them to have soo much success but they remain self obsessed. $5000 from each of them could have really helped Judy Wong. It's nothing to them. Maybe a snort of coke.
bwboy
06-28-2017, 06:13 PM
:laugh:
There's a few folks that love the money of da big machine. I have been wondering if that's why Mick (and maybe John) didn't go along on the tour for the album that they performed on. Not enough greenery? Not wanting to associate with smaller venues? If Mick and John came along, what difference would it have made? Would the venues be full? Mick has been using a back up drummer for years. Now I read that Lindsey and Christine aren't always performing live either. Are we seeing the end?
I definitely think Mick and John would have toured with Chris and Lindsey, but I would guess they weren't invited. This is such a smaller tour than what FM plays, so why split the profit 4 ways when you can split it 2 ways, and then hire backing musicians at a much, much lower fee. Makes sense, I guess.
Does anyone really believe Mick would turn down an opportunity to tour and make a few extra bucks? So there's no doubt in my mind Mick and John weren't invited to participate, but I doubt they took it personally.
Frankenstein
06-28-2017, 08:32 PM
The Judy Wong thing has always bothered me too. I've always thought a little less of Fleetwood Mac when I found out how she died. Chump change from them could of saved her life. They're soo self obsessed.
How did she die?
bombaysaffires
06-28-2017, 08:59 PM
Okay, we have an axe here! Thank you for speaking up.
nope, no axe. I just like to separate facts from fiction when we can. God knows it can be challenging with this band :eek:
dreamsunwind
06-28-2017, 11:10 PM
Richard was asked about this point blank on his original blog and he said it is NOT true, and then within a short time posted a photo of himself with all his gold records and grammys to prove it. For some reason he later felt embarrassed about having posted it, but I thought, 'why the hell not?' I mean geez he EARNED all of that, he contributed to all of that, why not be proud of it? If Lindsey wants to rewrite history and try and make out that it was all his own genius on all those albums that just speak to *his* issues.
I don't think he was embarrassed because of anything having to do with Lindsey or Lindsey "rewriting history" or anything like that. He was just very insistent that what Ken said wasn't true. On his blogs and twitter, he's almost kind of excessive in giving Lindsey praise and saying how Lindsey was the big 'brain' behind it all and that him and Ken were just helping out and developing the ideas. I think maybe it's because they were also like best friends for 20 years so that adds a personal factor to it. I follow his assistant Stacy on Twitter as well and she mostly seems to have issue with Ken, saying Ken makes it seem like he was the main engineer and all that.
I don't even know why Richard would think he's 'forgotten' when his name is literally on the albums lol, he has an official credit as producer that will be there forever.
bombaysaffires
06-28-2017, 11:38 PM
I don't think he was embarrassed because of anything having to do with Lindsey or Lindsey "rewriting history" or anything like that. He was just very insistent that what Ken said wasn't true. On his blogs and twitter, he's almost kind of excessive in giving Lindsey praise and saying how Lindsey was the big 'brain' behind it all and that him and Ken were just helping out and developing the ideas. I think maybe it's because they were also like best friends for 20 years so that adds a personal factor to it. I follow his assistant Stacy on Twitter as well and she mostly seems to have issue with Ken, saying Ken makes it seem like he was the main engineer and all that.
I don't even know why Richard would think he's 'forgotten' when his name is literally on the albums lol, he has an official credit as producer that will be there forever.
I didn't mean that he was embarrassed because of Lindsey. After posting the picture he expressed some feeling that posting a pic of himself with all the gold records and Grammys was not the coolest thing to do for some reason. I see nothing wrong with it. :shrug:
My comments about Lindsey were my opinion of how he has chosen to spin things, not Richard's.
dreamsunwind
06-29-2017, 01:10 AM
I didn't mean that he was embarrassed because of Lindsey. After posting the picture he expressed some feeling that posting a pic of himself with all the gold records and Grammys was not the coolest thing to do for some reason. I see nothing wrong with it. :shrug:
My comments about Lindsey were my opinion of how he has chosen to spin things, not Richard's.
Oh I see what you meant and I agree.
I think Lindsey just feels that most of the public knows him as "guitarist from Fleetwood Mac" so he's excessive in talking about his other role as producer/music-crafter and doesn't feel the need to mention engineers. And it probably doesn't help that most people think of Stevie when they think of FM even though she can't play an instrument much less fully produce anything, whereas he does both. Stereotypical insecure ego rock star.
Oh I see what you meant and I agree.
I think Lindsey just feels that most of the public knows him as "guitarist from Fleetwood Mac" so he's excessive in talking about his other role as producer/music-crafter and doesn't feel the need to mention engineers. And it probably doesn't help that most people think of Stevie when they think of FM even though she can't play an instrument much less fully produce anything, whereas he does both. Stereotypical insecure ego rock star.
Wonder what comes first....insecure ego.....or rock star.
The two seem often to go hand in hand.
gldstwmn
06-29-2017, 11:43 AM
Because we have touched on this a bit in this thread I wanted to share this tidbit from Liberty Devitto's interview wit NY Newsday promoting the film Hired Gun yesterday. It seems that the band and those that are close to them become estranged as success roll on. And sorry I don't mean to hijack the thread from its original topic. I love the whole Marina Del Ray personality. :lol:
Billy Joel called ‘heartless’ by bandmates in new documentary ‘Hired Gun’
http://www.newsday.com/entertainment/music/billy-joel/billy-joel-called-heartless-by-bandmates-in-new-documentary-hired-gun-1.13767695
Billy Joel is “heartless” for the way he dismissed band members from the early days of his career, claims the director of a new documentary about backing musicians that opens in theaters on Thursday.
“I was such a fan of his because he was such a great performer and songwriter,” said Fran Strine, director of the documentary “Hired Gun,” which opens in 320 movie houses nationwide, including theaters in Farmingdale, Holtsville, Stony Brook and Westbury, as well as Manhattan and Queens. “But when I heard of what he did to people he had worked with since they were teenagers, people who were left out in the cold, I just thought it was heartless.”
Opening the film are interviews with drummer Liberty DeVitto and guitarist Russell Javors, who talked about the shock they felt after Joel replaced them with other musicians in his band. The trauma was even more severe for DeVitto, who had been part of Joel’s band for 30 years, through major albums and tours, including “The Stranger” and “52nd Street.”
“If Billy is the father, the parent of those songs, I’m at least the uncle,” DeVitto says in the movie, adding that he was the one who told Joel that “Only the Good Die Young” should not be a reggae song. He said he told Joel, “The closest you’ve been to Jamaica is Jamaica, Long Island, when you change trains on the Long Island Rail Road.”
Joel declined to comment on the documentary’s assertions and on Strine’s characterization of his relationships with his former bandmates. Strine said Joel declined to be involved with the documentary and that all the footage of the singer used in the movie came from film archives. He did include the story about how Joel turned down working with George Martin. The Beatles producer wanted to replace Joel’s band with session musicians, but Joel wanted to keep the band together.
Though DeVitto and Javors talk about how they were surprised by what they felt was lack of loyalty to them, turnover is unusual in the Joel camp. He has used the same road crew for more than 40 years; saxophonist Mark Rivera has been in his band since 1982 and guitarist Tommy Byrnes has been by his side since 1989; and Joel’s musical director, keyboardist David Rosenthal, has been with him for 24 years. Joel was also instrumental in getting DeVitto, Javors, saxophonist Richie Cannata and the late Doug Stegmeyer, who played bass in the band for years, inducted into the Long Island Music Hall of Fame in 2014.
Strine said he worked on “Hired Gun” for three years, interviewing dozens of musicians hired to perform with artists ranging from Alice Cooper to Pink and Mandy Moore, in order to shine the spotlight on the supporting players. “These guys have honed their craft their entire lives,” he said. “People should show them some love.”
Strine said the stories from the former members of Joel’s band were the ones that shocked him the most during his research for the film.
However, DeVitto, who currently plays with Javors in The Lords of 52nd Street, which performs Joel classics as they were done on the original albums, seems willing to put his beef with Joel behind him.
“If I saw Billy I’d go up to him and hug him and tell him I love him,” DeVitto says in the movie. “If he called me up and said, ‘I’m sorry. Do you want to play again?’ I’d say yeah.”
dreamsunwind
06-29-2017, 08:08 PM
Wonder what comes first....insecure ego.....or rock star.
The two seem often to go hand in hand.
I think the insecure ego is always there and then gets elevated with the rockstar status. Always a unpleasant combination and Lindsey is a really good example of it, his arrogant sounding quotes are almost always most likely a result of him feeling the need to validate himself.
Danielle
07-04-2017, 09:02 PM
I love, love, love this interview! Stevie is witty and well spoken, as always, and I don't really see the problem with her saying that she learned something from Lana. It's just pure silliness to think that we don't grow, evolve and learn from those around us. Sour grapes as usual!
Thanks Danielle for sharing with us!!! I'm glad you are posting again here. You inspired me to do the same. The haters will always hate. Sucks to be them....
:xoxo: I'm glad you're here.
Here's the full interview:
Dreams Unwind: Lana Del Rey in conversation with Stevie Nicks
Lana Del Rey muses with collaborator and self-proclaimed ‘witchy sister’ Stevie Nicks about the forces that shaped her anthemic new album—and her very own lust for life. Pre-order V108 here.
“It’s just time,” whispers Lana Del Rey on her end of the telephone. “Time has brought me here.”
When Del Rey returned with 'Love’ this year—the first song from her fifth album, 'Lust For Life’, out July 21—a tonal shift was immediately apparent to anyone familiar with the singer’s notoriously dark discography. Beginning with her first record, 'Born To Die’, Del Rey’s previous four releases have been rife with references to ill-fated romance, tragedy, and betrayal. This song, however, resonated with a new note: hope.
In the accompanying video, Del Rey serenades a generation of kids who are quite literally reaching for the stars, cooing lines like, “The world is yours and you can’t refuse it” and “Don’t worry baby” (the latter being a nod to the 1964 Beach Boys song) as she beams from ear to ear.
Time itself is an ever-present theme in her work, though how she interacts with it has changed on her new album. With 'Lust For Life’, she revisits sounds and visuals from her early work with a mature perspective while bridging the past and the present both personally and politically. “Coachella—Woodstock in My Mind,” a song that draws parallels between two musical gatherings set against times of conflict, is a perfect example of this. It is only fitting, then, that the inquirer on the other end of the phone line is Stevie Nicks, fairy godmother to Del Rey’s genre of enchantingly romantic pop rock, who was on her way to becoming the voice of her own generation when Woodstock took place nearly five decades ago.
As it turns out, time—and a series of seemingly unrelated events throughout the courses of their lives—is also what brought these two kindred spirits together.
STEVIE NICKS: Helloooo? Is this you?
LANA DEL REY: It’s me!
SN: How are you from your little perch in the 'H’ of the Hollywood sign?
LDR: [laughs] Oh, I’m good. I’m sitting comfortably up here. It’s a clear evening, so I can see what everyone is getting up to down in the City of Angels. Thank you for asking.
SN: I was wondering, do you think that maybe I could rent the 'W’?
LDR: You know it is so crazy that you’re asking me that because I was thinking you would actually love to move into the 'O’.
SN: Well, the reason I picked the 'W’ is so that I could have an A-frame place, with a big, high ceiling. So, now I’ve decided that if I’m going to live in the 'W’, then we’re going to be like witchy sisters, so I have taken on a new name: Marina Del Rey. But wait, it gets better! You know the little Yorkie we brought to the studio? Her name is Mana. She’s gonna be our witchy Yorkie and her name is gonna be Mana Del Rey.
LDR: [laughs] Oh my God. It wouldn’t be right if we didn’t have a little witchy guard dog.
SN: So, let us start here on your new record. But let us first touch on the fact that your first record was called 'Born To Die’. Now this [record] is 'Lust For Life’. In between that, what is it that affected you enough to go from 'Born To Die’ to 'Lust For Life’? Because 'Born To Die’ is pretty dark and 'Lust For Life’ is pretty light. If you have a lust for life, that’s a pretty strong statement.
LDR: Yeah, they’re complete opposites, and it’s funny because when I chose the title, I didn’t think about it right away. It was the title of the first song I wrote for this record. But there are so many things that have gotten me to the point that I’m at now. One of them is just time. And because I do write everything myself, I just wanted to chronicle how I was feeling honestly, in the moment, for each record. So, I had a lot of stories that I wanted to tell that I hadn’t told yet up until this point. And now, through the last four records, I got out a lot of those stories and a lot of those feelings, and for the first time, I’ve caught myself up to real time. And now, I’m at this place where I feel like I’m really present, and when I’m reading the news, I’m really reading it, whereas before I was a little bit in my own head. So, there’s definitely been a feeling of freedom and lightness being in the present moment. That brings on that lust for life feeling, when you don’t have all of those feelings about the past weighing you down. I remember an interview that you did once where you said, “Around every corner there’s an adventure waiting to happen,” and I’m kind of in that zone right now. I just feel like whatever each day brings me is something that I need and I want. It’s just time. Time has brought me here.
SN: The way that we write is like we’re writing a diary as our songs go. If I listen to all the songs from 'Bella Donna’, and then I listen to all the songs from 'Wild Heart’, all the songs from 'Rock A Little’, and then I get to 'The Other Side Of The Mirror’…I was just thinking about this one song called 'Doing the Best I Can (Escape from Berlin).’ It goes [begins to sing] “It’s all right, baby, I’m doing the best that I can.” I named it that because of this idea of escape. Something horrible was going on in Berlin, and I was also finding my way. I was in a drug-filled fog at that point, fighting for survival. I look back on it and go, You were really trying to survive in 1989. And then I actually went to rehab in 1994 to get off that horrible tranquilizer, Klonopin—from there, I start watching my life come back around, starting with a record I did called 'Sweet Angel’, which was about the aftermath of rehab and coming back into the real world. And from then on, my path started to go up. And if I had not written all those songs, even reading all my journals from that time, they wouldn’t have really told the story, but the songs really told me the story of how bad that whole thing was. And I could watch, through the songs, my life start to come back to me. I think that we put out this running commentary on not just what’s going on in our lives, but what’s going on in the world at the same time. It’s a parallel thing. So, I see you doing the same things I did.
LDR: It’s a delicate balance because you’re chronicling your own story and then you’re also reflecting back what you see. It can take work not to let your world get too small, so that you’re still in both worlds. You’ve got your world with your own inner dialogue and your own narrative and the way that you write, and then there’s everything else. It’s funny, it’s been a minute since I’ve gone through my records, but I did do it recently and I hear so much of my own self and my own stories, but I don’t get as much of the outside world as I thought [I would]. This record is really different. When there were the women’s marches, I was writing about that. There was enough space in my mind to really absorb everything. I think I was very much in the mix of culture in California over the past five years, but it feels good to feel more connected to a wider world.
SN: I think we’re all much more connected with what’s going on right now.
LDR: That’s true. Regardless of where someone is at personally, the current landscape jolts you into being present, if you’re not crazy. If you’re a normal person, you’re suddenly aware and watching everything.
SN: And you’re getting up every day and waiting to find out what new thing has happened. I have never been that way before, ever, until the last two and a half years.
LDR: It’s a very different time for everybody. Because there is something new every day that you read and you’re like, Oh my God, is that real?
SN: My mom used to always say to me, “You’re on a mission here. People out there who are hurting or are sad or have something horrible going on in their lives, when they walk into your house of love or your house of music, you are going to take them on your own little adventure that’s going to pull them out of their life for a minute. And hopefully, when they leave you, they’re going to take a little bit of you with them and they’re going to feel better the next day.”
LDR: I love that.
SN: I think as songwriters right now, there’s a lot of songs I’d like to write that wouldn’t be very nice songs, but I’m not going to do it because we’re not going to help anybody by doing that. Then we’re just going to be in with the masses and we’re not going to be above the fray. Write your songs, but remember that we’re the ones that are here to lighten, to lighten life, to light the lanterns and the little fairy lights, and try to keep people going. We have to have hope. We have to believe that this will all end up okay and that we’ll all end up okay. Because we don’t do it, then who the hell is gonna do it?
LDR: You’re right, there’s no other way. As far as I’m concerned, there’s really not another way to sensibly think about it. I was never a huge self-editor—I wrote songs and then I felt like, Okay, well that’s that. And now, I’ve found in the last two years that I’ve really been editing some of the language of some of the songs in light of the political landscape, [because] I don’t want to be a part of anything that adds to that negativity.
SN: And your record, do you have favorite songs? Do you have ones that have your biggest messages or ones that you think are the most helpful to all the people that love your music? All the old women like me and the little girls who are listening?
LDR: I knew that the first song I wanted to put out was 'Love’ because of everything you and I have been talking about so far. It’s just the age-old thing: love is all there is. And I really was feeling that way. I made a lot of records for myself, chronicling my own stories, and I’ve played so many shows now, I’ve seen all the same kind of kids and grown-ups coming to the shows, and I really wanted to make a record for them. And then, I’ve been friends with Abel [Tesfaye] from The Weeknd for a long time, and I knew I wanted to put the title track, 'Lust For Life’, out second because we have so many mutual fans and I knew they would love it. And then 'Coachella—Woodstock in My Mind’ I wrote on my way home from Coachella when things were getting hostile between North Korea and U.S., and all those failed missile launches, which happened the day after the first night of the festival. I feel lucky to be able to speak my mind through music right in the present moment. I think one of my favorite tracks on the record is called 'Yosemite.’ The chorus is [begins to sing] “We did it for me, we did it for free, I did it for you, you did it for me, we did it for the right reasons.”
SN: I love it.
LDR: And that’s been the theme of my record: being in touch with what it takes to do things for the right reasons. All the actions that you need to take beyond just all the words and all the decisions I knew I wanted to make this year. And that song is special because it’s really a song about surrounding yourself with people who put their art and love first, who did it for the right reasons, not just the money. And I have a couple of songs like 'God Bless America,’ and another song called 'When the World Was At War We Just Kept Dancing,’ which is about what we’ve been talking about: trying to stay positive and just believing that things are going to be okay. And if it feels like they’re not going to be okay, we’ll try to make them okay individually and then together.
SN: I have not heard all these songs.
LDR: I want to play them for you the next time I see you! And I’m so proud of the song that we did, 'Beautiful People, Beautiful Problems.’ I just love your performance on it. The people reading probably don’t know that you know my longtime producer Rick Nowels from high school, basically.
SN: I’ve known your producer since he was 13 years old.
LDR: He loves you so much, you know.
SN: I do. It’s because we’ve been through so much together. My friend Robin [Anderson] died of leukemia and her brother got this terrible brain tumor, so Rick, Lindsey [Buckingham], and I are the survivors of those five people. And then, Rick went on to be this totally famous producer and songwriter. He started with me in 1985 on 'Rock A Little,’ when Jimmy Iovine dumped me and the record into Rick’s lap and said “Goodbye, good luck.”
LDR: Which is so full circle because he ended up being the head of Interscope, which I’m signed to. There are so many full circle moments.
SN: I think all of these little things, in a really fairy tale way, lead me to you and lead you to me in a strange witchy way. It’s set up, like all of these things that happened with my friend Robin, and her brother, and Rick, and everyone moving down here, me being Jimmy Iovine’s girlfriend from 1980 to 1984, then him giving the record and me to Rick, basically saying “Here, take them both and go.” All of this led to me meeting you and singing on your record. The butterfly’s wings flap in Africa and something is achieved by that butterfly across the world. That’s this story started, I think.
LDR: I don’t know if you said it in the same interview I mentioned earlier, but at some point you said that sometimes you wonder, Does anyone even notice? Sometimes you wonder when you put something out, Does anyone even notice? But it all matters. Every little thing that each person does in their individual life, even when it feels like it’s not a big decisions or not a big move, matters. Just being open to beautiful things happening creates them.
SN: That sentence was about how sometimes over the last 10 years I would say, “Does anybody really notice that I’m a really good singer now? How much better my voice is than it was 20 years ago?” You have a beautiful voice and I’ve already learned things to add to how I sing from you. Working on your song has changed me forever because I’ve learned from you. We are witchy sisters and that’s it. That’s where 'Beautiful People, Beautiful Problems’ comes from, because we are trying to ride above all the problems and have hope in everything else, but it’s still a world filled with problems no matter how hard we try to change it.
LDR: That’s what the song is about. It was such a special moment. It just goes back to my favorite song on the record, 'Yosemite,’ and doing it for the right reasons. Here we were in the studio, and when Rick and I were talking about who the other singers should be on the record, you were the only person we could both think of because of your intention and [how] that always comes through in all the music. That really closed the door on the record in the right way. It was the perfect last moment, so thank you for that.
SN: Well, I am so happy that the butterfly wings flapped at the perfect time and it made it happen because I think that, in our lives to come, we’ll be able to work on many more songs together, because you know I don’t just want to sing with anybody. I just want to sing with the people that I think can make me better and make something that’s better than both of us singing by ourselves. That’s the only reason for solo artists to sing together.
LDR: Amen to that.
SN: You know, I think I told you this, but as I travel around the country [touring], I do get to sit down in between [shows] with my friends and hold their hands and laugh about the past, and my one friend that I wrote my first song about—the 'I’ve Loved and I’ve Lost’ song I told you about—his name is Steve. I always dedicate the song to him because I was so crazy about him when I was 15 and a half; my parents gave me this guitar and I wrote this little song about him. And I can honestly say that I was as in love with him as I have ever been in love with anybody.
LDR: That’s such a beautiful thing to say. I feel the same way. Obviously when you’re at different stages in your life, things hit you harder, or just in different ways, but the way I love has always been the same. I don’t know if that’s just wholeheartedly or maybe you’re only attracted to a certain kind of person, so when that type of person comes around, you really feel it, but when these 15- and 16-year-olds are going through heart break, I really feel for them, because it’s real.
SN: It’s totally real. And what I was going to say to is that it’s funny, because this guy knows it, and I know it, and his wife knows it, and it’s fine because it doesn’t mean anything except that real love never dies.
LDR: It’s making me smile hearing you say that. Because that’s what makes life beautiful. Just having that open heart and letting it be exciting in the moment, just having that energy between two people.
SN: Every time I see this guy he goes “You need to come and visit us because we don’t have a lot of time. We’re both in our 60s, and time doesn’t go on forever.” So I’m living in the moment. I just jump on a plane and I go and do this, and I go and do this, and I come back and I do this. And I’m like, Why don’t I get a day off? But the thing is, if you stop, you stop.
LDR: I know. It’s such a big decision when you decide to become an artist because once you’re in it, you’re in it. And then there is a certain level of momentum that you want to keep.
SN: It’s a very big commitment. You know, Lana, my dad used to always say about me, “She’s never going to get married.” And I’d look at him—I was in my 30s—and I’d go like, “Why would you say that, Dad?” And he’d go, “What you do is too important to you. And you are never going to be the kind of girl to have somebody say 'You can’t,’ or 'You’re not going to go back on tour, are you?’”
LDR: Do you think that the fact that he said that switched something in you and made you think, I’m not going to get married?
SN: I think that my dad knew me really well. And for me as an artist, I was always going to want to follow my muse. And that muse was writing songs and going on tour. And so for me, I tended to say, “Well, I’m not going to be able to [get married]. I will have love affairs and I’ll meet many great men in my life, but I probably won’t commit to a relationship.” Look at me. I’m 68 years old and I just finished 48 shows—two-and-a-half-hour shows—which were preceded by 220 three-hour Fleetwood Mac shows. What kind of relationship could somebody like me have?
LDR: You know what, though? There’s billions of people in the world, but there are a handful of people that have that special, strong relationship with their own muse. For some people, it’s the biggest part of their life and the biggest relationship: following that energy, that muse, and the serendipitous twists and turns of life. The amazing thing, too—and not just with romantic relationships—is when you find other people who know exactly what that life looks like, you know? That it’s just not going to be straight and narrow. It’s such a blessing when you run into people who don’t color within the lines, that do the same things you do.
SN: I want to add, having said all that, I would never believe that it is not possible that coming right around the corner is the man of my dreams, at 68 years old. It’s possible, and I accept the possibility of that completely.
LDR: A hundred percent. And you know, life is short, but life is long, too. And there are so many things for everybody that have yet to come.
SN: Because after everything we’ve talked about, if we can honestly say that love never dies, if my heart can still flutter when I see my boyfriend from when I was 15 and a half, I cannot honestly say that there is no chance for real love in my life somewhere in the next 15 or 20 years. Because I believe that there’s always that possibility. I never want people to think that I’m some cold woman who thinks that love may have existed all those years ago when I was younger, but doesn’t exist in my dreams now, because it does exist in my dreams now. But I’m also really good not having it because I’m not lonely, I’m not bored. I have so much to do that I can hardly get three hours of sleep.
LDR: You have a beautiful relationship with yourself.
SN: I do. And I never get tired of it. I know people who are bored stiff, and that’ll never be me. I could never be bored in this world. Because of what we do, whether you have a relationship or don’t have a relationship, you balance it. I have to say that there have a been a few men in my life that have liked what I do, and have liked my friends, and have liked the fact that I like to stay up late and sit at the piano and light the candles, and were happy to lay on the couch with a book while I was doing that. They were few, but they were there, they did exist. And sometimes, I thought that the great loves of your life are the ones that just make you crazy, and say they’re coming to your house and don’t show up, and the phone doesn’t ring, and you just want to kill yourself. And then there are the ones who actually just dig what you do and who you are, and you put them in the second category of great loves. And then the nutcases of your life are the ones that were in the first category of your great loves, but they’re the ones you could never have lived with!
LDR: Absolutely. There are two different types of lovers. There are the crazy ones and then there are the ones who are really there.
SN: Exactly. And I still know all of my loves—all of them. I’m like Catherine Deneuve in The Hunger with all the vampire boyfriends.
LDR: [laughs] I can’t picture you getting into a relationship with someone who, on some level, doesn’t have an extremely strong connection to you or a strong commonality that wouldn’t span decades or eras. I’m still dear friends with my first boyfriend, and we didn’t have it all in the moment, but he was the world’s nicest guy and he’s still in my life. And that’s been the same with a lot of my boyfriends. I feel like, for me, it wouldn’t make sense to get involved with someone who I didn’t think could be either some type of really close confidant or someone who just really got me on some level.
SN: I think you’ll find, as years go by, that some of those men will matter to your more down the line, because they’re the ones who really seem to know you. So, it’s good. Lana Del Rey, I think we’ve filled up their entire magazine by now.
LDR: You’re amazing and I can’t wait to see you. Maybe it’ll be when you move into the 'W’.
SN: That’s definitely going to happen soon, like next week.
LDR: That’s the dream.
SN: That is our dream and we make dreams come true, so it’s going to happen. I can’t wait to see you, too. I hope when people read this interview they know that kindred spirits find each other along the way and that love never dies.
SisterNightroad
07-14-2017, 07:34 AM
I don't know if the tracklist has already been posted but in any case here:
EVERYTHING TO KNOW ABOUT LANA DEL REY'S NEW ALBUM, LUST FOR LIFE
From the release date to the track list...
Lana Del Rey's fifth studio album releases later this month. Here's everything you need to know about the singer's upcoming project before it drops.
The Title
Lust for Life
The Release Date
July 21, 2017
The Album Cover
http://www.optimaitalia.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/lana-del-rey-lust-for-life.jpg
The Track List
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/cf/fc/68/cffc6822656b18b8f1b451525d8a6e07.jpg
"Love"
"Lust for Life f. The Weeknd
"13 Beaches"
"Cherry"
"White Mustang"
"Summer Bummer" f. A$AP Rocky & Playboi Carti
"Groupie Love" f. A$AP Rocky
"In My Feelings"
"Coachella - Woodstock in My Mind"
"God Bless America - And all the Beautiful Women in It"
"When the World Was at War We Kept Dancing"
"Beautiful People Beautiful Problems" f. Stevie Nicks
"Tomorrow Never Came" f. Sean Ono Lennon
"Heroin"
"Change"
"Get Free"
The Singles
Del Rey hasn't unveiled her full album track list yet, but here are the songs we know will appear on the record so far.
"Lust for Life"
The singer debuted the title track of her record, featuring The Weeknd, in April on BBC One. A month later, she released the accompanying visuals, showcasing her and the R&B singer performing atop the Hollywood sign.
"Love"
Though it's not the title track, this was the first single Del Rey released from Lust for Life. She premiered the single in February, and a dreamy music video came shortly after.
"Coachella—Woodstock on My Mind"
After attending Coachella and hearing the news of North Korea testing missiles, Del Rey felt inspired and penned a melody in the woods on the way home from the festival, which she immediately shared on Instagram. "I just wanted to share this in hopes that one individual's hope and prayer for peace might contribute to the possibility of it in the long run," she explained in the caption. A month later, she shared the fully-produced track.
"Cherry"
This track hasn't been released as a single yet, but Del Rey gave fans a taste when she performed it at the KROQ Weenie Roast Y Fiesta in May.
"Summer Bummer"
This marks one of two songs featuring A$AP Rocky on Del Rey's upcoming record. On "Summer Bummer," produced by Boi-1da, the rapper is also accompanied by Playboi Carti on the track.
"Groupie Love"
On this A$AP collab, Del Rey croons about a relationship that's like a romance between an artist and a fan. The rapper originally recorded a different verse for this song, but a few months after laying down his verse, he came back into the studio and changed it.
The Stevie Nicks Collab
Perhaps the most anticipated track on the album is Del Rey's collaboration with Stevie Nicks, "Beautiful People, Beautiful Problems."
"I kind of thought I had finished the record a couple of times, and then one of those times I really felt like I wanted a woman on the record," she said of the song. She was amazing. She was everything you hope she’s gonna be. She’s so contemporary, and she knows all the new music that’s out weekly. She loved the track and she added so much to it."
The Trailer
When Del Rey officially announced her new album, she included a whimsical trailer to explain the upcoming record and her intentions behind it.
"When I'm in the middle of making a record, especially now when the world is in the middle of such a tumultuous period, I find I really need to take the space for myself, far away from real life to consider what my contribution to the world should be in these dark times," she narrates in one part of the clip.
http://www.harpersbazaar.com/culture/art-books-music/a10276942/lana-del-rey-lust-for-life-new-album/
It's on youtube now:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kM8Aa4LI01g
SisterNightroad
07-19-2017, 09:52 AM
Amazing sultry vocal.
I really like this track. Stevie sounds great!
BlueLight
07-19-2017, 10:12 AM
OMG this is absolute perfection. LOVE. :D
This is superb - everything I hoped for and more. Hope this leads to future collaborations.
vivfox
07-19-2017, 10:49 AM
I keep playing this on repeat. I love this song and can't wait to play it for my mother.
lulu28
07-19-2017, 11:15 AM
I have no words.....AMAZING! I think this might be her very best vocal to date. I have cold chills listening to this song!
mitzo
07-19-2017, 11:33 AM
An album like this from Stevie and I die a happy man.
ricohv
07-19-2017, 11:59 AM
Collaborating with other people always seems to bring out the best in Stevie. She can still sing so pretty!
*Ricoh*
onlynow
07-19-2017, 03:28 PM
The youtube video has been removed. Can someone quote some of Stevies lyrics or at least some of the ideas expressed in the song? Thx much!
SisterNightroad
07-19-2017, 03:38 PM
The youtube video has been removed. Can someone quote some of Stevies lyrics or at least some of the ideas expressed in the song? Thx much!
Here the song uploaded by someone on tumblr: http://bryanmichael.tumblr.com/post/163177141952/ldr-stevie-nicks-beautiful-peoplebeautiful ; and here the lyrics:
"Beautiful People Beautiful Problems"
(feat. Stevie Nicks)
Blue is the color of the planet from the view above
Long live our reign, long live our love
Green is the planet from the eyes of a turtle dove
'Til it runs red, runs red with blood
We get so tired and we complain
'Bout how it's hard to live
It's more than just a video game
But we're just beautiful people
With beautiful problems, yeah
Beautiful problems, God knows we've got them
But we gotta try (la la la)
Every day and night (la la la)
Blue is the color on the shirt of the man I love
He's hard at work, hard to the touch
But warm is the body of the girl from the land he loves
My heart is soft, my past is rough
But when I love him get a feeling
Something close to like a sugar rush
It runs through me
But is it wasted love?
(It's not wasted love)
But we're just beautiful people
With beautiful problems, yeah
Beautiful problems, God knows we've got them
But we gotta try (la la la)
Every day and night (la la la)
Oh, oh
Hmm, hmm
Oh, oh
Hmm, hmm
Yeah, we've gotta try (la la la)
We gotta walk through fire (la la la)
Because we're just
Beautiful people with beautiful problems, yeah
(We're just)
Beautiful problems, God knows we've got them
(Beautiful people)
Beautiful people with beautiful problems, yeah (we need to)
Beautiful problems, God knows we got them
So beautiful
Yeah, yeah
Yeah, yeah
Jondalar
07-19-2017, 03:47 PM
Here the song uploaded by someone on tumblr: http://bryanmichael.tumblr.com/post/163177141952/ldr-stevie-nicks-beautiful-peoplebeautiful ; and here the lyrics:
"Beautiful People Beautiful Problems"
(feat. Stevie Nicks)
Blue is the color of the planet from the view above
Long live our reign, long live our love
Green is the planet from the eyes of a turtle dove
'Til it runs red, runs red with blood
We get so tired and we complain
'Bout how it's hard to live
It's more than just a video game
But we're just beautiful people
With beautiful problems, yeah
Beautiful problems, God knows we've got them
But we gotta try (la la la)
Every day and night (la la la)
Blue is the color on the shirt of the man I love
He's hard at work, hard to the touch
But warm is the body of the girl from the land he loves
My heart is soft, my past is rough
But when I love him get a feeling
Something close to like a sugar rush
It runs through me
But is it wasted love?
(It's not wasted love)
But we're just beautiful people
With beautiful problems, yeah
Beautiful problems, God knows we've got them
But we gotta try (la la la)
Every day and night (la la la)
Oh, oh
Hmm, hmm
Oh, oh
Hmm, hmm
Yeah, we've gotta try (la la la)
We gotta walk through fire (la la la)
Because we're just
Beautiful people with beautiful problems, yeah
(We're just)
Beautiful problems, God knows we've got them
(Beautiful people)
Beautiful people with beautiful problems, yeah (we need to)
Beautiful problems, God knows we got them
So beautiful
Yeah, yeah
Yeah, yeah
Thank you. Well that is one of the best collaborations she has ever done! I love it. Her voice and the production totally works and it's a real duet.
Jondalar
07-19-2017, 03:57 PM
You know this song is all about being self absorbed. It makes it perfect for Stevie.
BombaySapphire3
07-19-2017, 04:10 PM
You know this song is all about being self absorbed. It makes it perfect for Stevie.
and in other news grass is green water is wet the prez is orange and Stevie is self absorbed.:lol:
James89
07-19-2017, 05:27 PM
Got goosebumps. It's amazing. Stevie's voice though - it's getting better with age!
I genuinely think this could be a hit. It may be released as a single.
storms_x
07-19-2017, 09:38 PM
Wow, this is so haunting. It's great to hear a duet where they really bring out the "Stevie" we all love.
Lisa W
07-19-2017, 10:44 PM
Wow, this is so haunting. It's great to hear a duet where they really bring out the "Stevie" we all love.
I totally agree and was really hoping this would be as moody and haunting as it turned out. I love the song and Stevie's vocal. Its expressive in a way I've not heard from her in years.
jkmaletic
07-19-2017, 11:39 PM
They sound really good together. They should do more stuff together.
seanthompson
07-20-2017, 06:35 AM
I am in love with this.
On Ice
07-20-2017, 06:42 AM
This is really good. The style, production and the way she's singing here is wonderful and she needs to capture this and do an album in this vein. There are still songs that can suit this style- imagine Julia re-tooled to this style. I think it could work very well.
SisterNightroad
07-20-2017, 07:20 AM
This is really good. The style, production and the way she's singing here is wonderful and she needs to capture this and do an album in this vein. There are still songs that can suit this style- imagine Julia re-tooled to this style. I think it could work very well.
In fact I was thinking that there's a small chance that Stevie will work with Rick Nowels in the future, after hearing this I truly hope that might happen.
Hawkeye
07-20-2017, 11:04 AM
It won't play for me for some reason.
SisterNightroad
07-20-2017, 02:06 PM
It won't play for me for some reason.
It's surely been removed because of copyright infringement, however the album is out tomorrow so you will be able to hear it from official sources like spotify.
24karatstevie
07-20-2017, 02:10 PM
I love the way Stevie's voice sounds on this. Beautiful!
wheart
07-20-2017, 03:48 PM
You know this song is all about being self absorbed. It makes it perfect for Stevie.
it would be a great fit for Lindsey too! Maybe they could record it as a duet...
Jondalar
07-20-2017, 04:03 PM
it would be a great fit for Lindsey too! Maybe they could record it as a duet...
This is the type of song that belonged on Trouble In Shangri La. The title track is all about decadent, narcissistic people. - "you can't consume all the beauty in the room" - Unfortunately she didn't continue the theme throughout. This song is the type she needed on that album to strengthen that narrative. Plus it's just a good song with fresh harmonies.
Hawkeye
07-20-2017, 06:14 PM
You guys are really building this song up for me. I haven't seen a song so universally liked this century! What would you compare it to?
TheWildHeart67
07-20-2017, 06:18 PM
I'll be downloading the track off Itunes tomorrow as well as Google play for my phone :-)
TheWildHeart67
07-20-2017, 06:20 PM
PS Wouldn't it be awesome if this becomes a single and Stevie actually gets some airplay?
storms_x
07-20-2017, 06:40 PM
You guys are really building this song up for me. I haven't seen a song so universally liked this century! What would you compare it to?
It's hard to say, but it's a slow burn that ends with the competing back ground vocals, from both, that are up front and center, like her older songs used to be produced.
lilyfee
07-20-2017, 07:47 PM
Heard a thirty second clip on Youtube and I was impressed! I saw the lyrics ahead of time and cringed but Stevie sings softly and her voice somehow blends beautifully with Lana's voice and style! Very excited to hear the full song tomorrow!:blob2:
dreamsunwind
07-20-2017, 09:48 PM
Heard a thirty second clip on Youtube and I was impressed! I saw the lyrics ahead of time and cringed but Stevie sings softly and her voice somehow blends beautifully with Lana's voice and style! Very excited to hear the full song tomorrow!:blob2:
I haaaaate Lana Del Rey's "I want to die in a red dress sad summertime cigarettes money daddy" lyrics so much lol it's why I have not really been hyped for this at all :(
pwyll
07-20-2017, 09:50 PM
Just an AMAZING song. Stevie really understands her vocal commitment to this song. Once heard, you'll know what I mean.
I don't know if its "single" material only because its very dark and eerie, but what a gem it is!
Hawkeye
07-20-2017, 11:05 PM
Wow! I expected to be let down from high expectations but this did not. Way more impressive then that movie soundtrack song. This is probably second only to Midnight Wind where I think Stevie's presence as "the guest" takes the song into anther orbit. If anything that was always the coolest thing about young Stevie. Her ability to have her bg vocals take over and dominate a song. Even something as minor as her singing loudly on the over my head live versions of the 70s was common back then. This past Fleetwood Mac tour I thought Stevie would put a little of that magic on world turning with Christine back to sing the lead vocals. But this was not the case. While Stevie has added some serious fire to her own songs live recently ( GDW and Moonlight in particular) I had given up that a song "featuring Stevie nicks" would ever be significant again beyond "well I guess it's sort of cool to hear Stevie's pleasantly nasal vocals making Santa clause is coming to town a bit more Erie" and always prepared myself not to get let down like Sheryl crows cmon cmon where basically if you during the volume up to 11 at the chorus you can kind of hear Stevie shouting this chord terribly both incredibly loud and yet sounding like a whisper.
But after all that rambling this new song gives me hope she may get back to her song stealing ways. BBBP (am I first to alliterate? I like it) in the tail end of her career. Second to midnight wind for me personally. Better then gold. Better then whenever I call you friend. Even better then anther favorite, ebony eyes .
Danielle
07-20-2017, 11:28 PM
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Jondalar
07-21-2017, 12:00 AM
Wow! I expected to be let down from high expectations but this did not. Way more impressive then that movie soundtrack song. This is probably second only to Midnight Wind where I think Stevie's presence as "the guest" takes the song into anther orbit. If anything that was always the coolest thing about young Stevie. Her ability to have her bg vocals take over and dominate a song. Even something as minor as her singing loudly on the over my head live versions of the 70s was common back then. This past Fleetwood Mac tour I thought Stevie would put a little of that magic on world turning with Christine back to sing the lead vocals. But this was not the case. While Stevie has added some serious fire to her own songs live recently ( GDW and Moonlight in particular) I had given up that a song "featuring Stevie nicks" would ever be significant again beyond "well I guess it's sort of cool to hear Stevie's pleasantly nasal vocals making Santa clause is coming to town a bit more Erie" and always prepared myself not to get let down like Sheryl crows cmon cmon where basically if you during the volume up to 11 at the chorus you can kind of hear Stevie shouting this chord terribly both incredibly loud and yet sounding like a whisper.
But after all that rambling this new song gives me hope she may get back to her song stealing ways. BBBP (am I first to alliterate? I like it) in the tail end of her career. Second to midnight wind for me personally. Better then gold. Better then whenever I call you friend. Even better then anther favorite, ebony eyes .
Well she had just worked with Sheryl Crow again and I think She has a duet on Sheryls next album.
As far as Lust for Life - another great album from Lana!
SpyNote
07-21-2017, 01:03 AM
Revised lyrics to the ones that were previously posted. They're singing "lie, lie, lie" not "la, la, la".
Beautiful People Beautiful Problems
(Lana Del Rey/Stevie Nicks/Rick Nowels/Justin Parker)
Blue is the color of the planet from the view above
Long live our reign
Long live our love
Green is the planet from the eyes of a turtle dove
‘Til it runs red, runs red with blood
We get so tired and we complain
‘Bout how it’s hard to live
It’s more than just a video game
But we’re just beautiful people
With beautiful problems, yeah
Beautiful problems, God knows we've got them
But we gotta try (lie, lie, lie)
Every day and night (lie, lie, lie)
Blue is the color of the shirt of the man I love
He’s hard at work, hard to the touch
But warm is the body of the girl from the land he loves
My heart is soft, my past is rough
But when I love him, get a feeling
Something close to like a sugar rush
It runs through me
But is it wasted love
(It’s not wasted love)
But we’re just beautiful people
With beautiful problems, yeah
Beautiful problems, God knows we've got them
But we gotta try (lie, lie, lie)
Every day and night (lie, lie, lie)
Hmm...
Hmm-hmm-hmm
Hmm-hmm-hmm
Hmm-hmm-hmm
Yeah we’ve gotta try (lie, lie, lie)
We gotta walk through fire (lie, lie, lie)
Because we’re just
Beautiful people with beautiful problems, yeah
(We’re just)
Beautiful problems, God knows we've got them, yeah
(Beautiful people)
Beautiful people with beautiful problems, yeah
(We're just)
Beautiful problems, God knows we've got them
So beautiful...
Yeah, yeah
Yeah, yeah
Yeah, yeah
The Juggler
07-21-2017, 03:51 AM
Stunning. She can really deliver when the right producer is with her. Get her in the studio with Rick again! He could do magic with her demos and he clearly knows how to highlight the strengths of her voice.
Rick could just be the appropriate producer for the "Rhiannon Songs Project"... Imagine this type of production for "China Doll" and the others. (Wish he'd been involved in "She Loves Him Still" - the 24KG version is vastly inferior to the RAL demo.)
kak125
07-21-2017, 09:22 AM
i was skeptical about how stevie's voice would mesh with lana's but it sounds absolutely stunning! this song turned out so well i am beyond impressed!
here is a review of the song here:
http://www.vulture.com/2017/07/lana-del-rey-and-stevie-nicks-beautiful-people-beautiful-problems-review.html
For as long as she’s been known, it’s been a given that Lana Del Rey has “features” in abundance, but not on her albums. If her persona has been the outcome of a carefully, even poetically arranged series of gestures and looks, maintaining that particular image has mandated that she only appear far from the distorting presence of other artists. She could at times lend her voice to others (to the Weeknd most recently and prominently), but it didn’t work the other way around: her neo-retro aesthetic didn’t harmonize with the sound and tone of the vast majority of contemporary artists’. Kanye and Nicki are decent fits for a Katy Perry album, and Ed Sheeran made for a plausible guest on Taylor Swift’s Red LP, but who was fit to pay a call to Lana? No one, apparently. As an artist busy shaping a distinctly different style of her own, over the course of three albums, she was too self-possessed to play with guests.
But Lana has also always possessed a precious capability to surprise her audience. Since her fourth album’s Weeknd-featuring title track dropped in April it’s been understood that Lust for Life, released in full last night, would be her first with any featured artists; since the A$AP Rocky features “Summer Bummer” and “Groupie Love” came out last week it’s been clear that Lust would be her first album with multiple guests. The track listing, similarly released last week, also numbered Sean Ono Lennon and Stevie Nicks as collaborators.
Naturally, fans were quick to speculate on the known but as-yet unheard guests, particularly in the latter case. Given the ’60s vibe of the album art and a lead track citing Woodstock in its title, enlisting Ono Lennon made sense — and in fact “Tomorrow Never Came,” the superb song on which he features, exudes a love-and-peace vibe. But with Stevie Nicks and Lana Del Rey, the conjunction was just as logical, but also harder to imagine ahead of time. There had never before been a Lana track with two women, and figuring out exactly how Nicks’s own mature and self-possessed voice would meet Lana’s halfway seemed a hopeless task. One could only wait and learn in due time how “Beautiful People Beautiful Problems (feat. Stevie Nicks)” would ring out.
The track is very good. Lana’s opening verse, a brightly colored quatrain from a bird’s-eye view, exemplifies the album’s partial shift, relative to its predecessors, from being seen to being an observer. After casting larger than life shadows for three albums, Lana has decided, on roughly half of Lust for Life (the other half being a fresh dose of the nectar and ambrosia her fans know well), to view the world and its people at large, encroached on by darkness yet still worthy of faith. “We get so tired and we complain / ’bout how it’s hard to live / It’s more than a video game,” Lana adds, calling back to her earliest hit while revising its message. It’s not enough to get lost in images anymore, and when she launches a chorus about how we’re just beautiful people with beautiful problems, the tone is inclusive and grounded, less glamorous and more personal. That “we” isn’t royal; it’s everyone who’s tired but trying to go on.
If you’re wondering where the old Lana went, Nicks, on her own verse, seems to be possessed by her spirit. It’s a jolt to hear Nicks’s own oiled-leather voice delivering four Lana-esque lines, about love for a hard man, capped off by a perfect summation of the old Lana aesthetic: “My heart is soft, my past is rough.” When the two finally sing in unison, the effect is hair-raising:
But when I love him, get a feeling
Something close to like a sugar rush
It runs through me, but is it wasted love?
Let’s not waste it, love.
It’s unclear exactly how the first verse fits with the second, which is to say how Lana’s new vision fits with the old one she’s mastered. Our first impression (and first impressions of Lana are, to be fair, extremely deceiving) is of the album as two smaller albums merged together under one name. All of the songs are excellent, but we’re not sure yet if they’re quite as excellent together. What’s already certain, though, is that Lana Del Rey and Stevie Nicks sound thrilling on the same track: For now, that should be enough.
vivfox
07-21-2017, 11:25 AM
Long live our reign
Blue is the color of the shirt of the man I love
When I first heard this song I though Lana sang: Long live Iran (and I was so turned off by hearing IRAN that it almost ruined the song for me)
As soon as I first heard SN sing:Blue is the color of the shirt of the man I love, I instantly thought of Blue Denim(Lyric wise, not musically).
kak125
07-21-2017, 01:26 PM
few more reviews:
http://www.billboard.com/articles/news/7873914/lana-del-rey-lust-for-life-songwriters-collaborators-producers
Stevie Nicks
The singer-songwriter legend has been making a return to prominence of sorts, featured on both the Lust for Life track “Beautiful People Beautiful Problems” and duetting with Harry Styles in concert. Talking about working with the Fleetwood Mac star, Del Rey told KROQ in a recent interview: “She’s everything you hope she’s gonna be. She’s so contemporary, and she knows all the new music that’s out weekly. She loved the track and she added so much to it.” When chatting with Del Rey herself for V Magazine, Nicks said the collaboration changed her forever. “We are witchy sisters and that’s it. That’s where ‘Beautiful People, Beautiful Problems’ comes from, because we are trying to ride above all the problems and have hope in everything else, but it’s still a world filled with problems no matter how hard we try to change it.”
https://consequenceofsound.net/2017/07/lana-del-rey-releases-new-album-lust-for-life-stream-download/
In an in-depth interview with Pitchfork, Del Rey discussed what it was like recording with Nicks:
“She came in straight off a plane from her last show of like 60 cities, which I was actually supposed to open for. She had asked me, and I was like, ‘Oh my god.’ But I couldn’t because I don’t want to do a 60-show tour.
She flew through the door. Blond highlights, rose gold glasses, gold-tipped nails, rose gold lipstick, gold chains, gold rings, black on black on black. Very stylish. And meanwhile, I looked like a housewife of 15—flannel on flannel, because it was a cold night. And I was like, Why did I not dress up for Stevie Nicks?
At the end of the track, she sings, then I sing, then she sings. I was kinda embarrassed. I was like, ‘I sound so little compared to you.’ And she was like, ‘That’s good, you’re my little echo.’ And I was like, Stevie called me her little echo. It’s a stupid little thing, but she was very nurturing in that way, and not belittling of the fact that I had a more breathy voice. Which I wasn’t even aware of until I was shoulder-to-shoulder on a track with someone with less air in their voice. I felt a little more exposed in that moment. But she was like, ‘That’s you. You just be you.'”
omg lana could have opened for stevie? that would have been a dream come true i have always wanted to see her live. wow!
Or a very soft shirt in a light blue :)
bwboy
07-21-2017, 04:10 PM
Harry Styles, Katy Perry, Lana Del Ray, Taylor Swift, Courtney Love, Adam Levine, Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers, Kenny Loggins, Don Henley, Vanessa Carlton, Chrissie Hynde, Prince, the list goes on and on of her collaborators and/or singers who speak so highly of her. Really incredible.
bombaysaffires
07-21-2017, 04:44 PM
Or a very soft shirt in a light blue :)
I thought of that too! :nod:
It's hard to say, but it's a slow burn that ends with the competing back ground vocals, from both, that are up front and center, like her older songs used to be produced.
Yes to this!
Jimmy understood this and worked it into many of her songs but subsequent producers have not, and Dave Stewart absolutely did not. :distress:
blinker12
07-21-2017, 04:52 PM
What a gorgeous verse melody.
It's wonderful to hear Stevie working so much lately in her softer, higher range.
BombaySapphire3
07-21-2017, 06:47 PM
Wow another one that really works..Please get this woman in studio for a solo album soon.
Jondalar
07-22-2017, 02:42 AM
Stevie is listed as a cowriter on this song.
dreamsunwind
07-22-2017, 03:01 AM
Stevie is listed as a cowriter on this song.
omg i refuse to believe stevie wrote these lyrics.
the music is fine and she sounds great but i hate lana del rey's lyrics deeply lol.
Jondalar
07-22-2017, 03:04 AM
omg i refuse to believe stevie wrote these lyrics.
the music is fine and she sounds great but i hate lana del rey's lyrics deeply lol.
She is 1 of 4 songwriters on the song.
dreamsunwind
07-22-2017, 03:38 AM
She is 1 of 4 songwriters on the song.
she probably just helped with the melody or some words here and there because this song is typical lana lyrics
Jondalar
07-22-2017, 03:53 AM
she probably just helped with the melody or some words here and there because this song is typical lana lyrics
Lana is a critics darling and she deserves to be. Once again she had delivered an excellent album.
James89
07-22-2017, 05:36 AM
I BET Stevie insisted on the 'so beautiful' bit at the end. She said she loved that at the end of Mabel Normand so I guess she wanted it here too. Maybe that's a large part of the writing credit.
HoursAndHours
07-22-2017, 07:26 AM
That chorus is totally her Rock A Little voice. I thought that voice was gone forever, and I freaking love that it's back. :blob1:
twinmatrix
07-22-2017, 08:07 AM
I BET Stevie insisted on the 'so beautiful' bit at the end. She said she loved that at the end of Mabel Normand so I guess she wanted it here too. Maybe that's a large part of the writing credit.
The end made me tear up!! It's beautiful!
I absolutely LOVE this album. It's fantastic from start to finish. It's not as emotionally impactful as her previous records, but I very much appreciate the breezy atmosphere. I listened to the album for the first time on the beach and it was fantastic.
Stand-outs: Love, Lust for Life, 13 Beaches, God Bless America, Beautiful People Beautiful Problems, Get Free
bwboy
07-22-2017, 08:56 AM
omg i refuse to believe stevie wrote these lyrics.
the music is fine and she sounds great but i hate lana del rey's lyrics deeply lol.
I agree about the lyrics. I haven't heard the song yet, but reading the lyrics made me roll my eyes. I am not a fan of these types of lyrics. That doesn't mean I won't like the song or find it catchy, but the lyrics make me pause.
MoonSister75
07-22-2017, 09:34 AM
I wasn't taken with some of the lyrics either, but on hearing the song several times today, I love it! Beautiful production, haunting song, and inspired combination of Lana Del Rey and Stevie vocals.
I like some of Lana Del Rey's previous music, but it's never made me want to listen to her albums. This song made me immediately want to the listen to the whole album, and it is wonderful. I've had something great to listen to on my day hanging around at home :nod:
So glad Stevie was asked to contribute to this.
Good review of the album here:
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2017/jul/21/lana-del-rey-lust-for-life-album-review
pryderi
07-22-2017, 11:54 AM
I was listening to some youtubers album reactions. All of them are very young and a few have never heard of Stevie. The majority of them that are aware of Stevie call her a legend and some know her through coven. They love how both voices compliment each other. Also, it is interesting to watch the ones who hear Stevie for the first time and instantly connect. One of them said she thought Stevie was a guy until listening to the song and that it makes her want to go and check out her other music.
Jondalar
07-22-2017, 02:52 PM
I was listening to some youtubers album reactions. All of them are very young and a few have never heard of Stevie. The majority of them that are aware of Stevie call her a legend and some know her through coven. They love how both voices compliment each other. Also, it is interesting to watch the ones who hear Stevie for the first time and instantly connect. One of them said she thought Stevie was a guy until listening to the song and that it makes her want to go and check out her other music.
Stevie is getting a lot of attention for this collaboration.
bombaysaffires
07-22-2017, 04:15 PM
I watched some of the "reaction videos" of Lana's fans-- they record themselves as they listen to the album for the first time. Everyone comments on how well their voices blend... and amazing how many of them do not know who Stevie is. One chick was like, I was expecting it to be a guy. But now I'm going to have to research who she is and her music. Very smart, Stevie, very smart.:nod:
bombaysaffires
07-22-2017, 04:21 PM
another thing that struck me..... when Stevie was working outside of FM all the producers were trying to make her sound like mainstream male rock --which sorta made sense given the times. But women have gotten a lot more empowered in music since then... and the female perspective in songs and stuff is more respected now. So while her advisors convinced her she should sound more 'masculine" if you get what I mean, what all the little girls listening out there took from her music was the mystical, airy fairy, girl feelings that Stevie would write about. It's almost like she got pulled too far away from that over the course of her career by her male advisors, and really that's the thing that made her unique and special. And that's the thing all these female writers and singers took from her work and get all sorts of kudos from their fans for.... fans who don't know Stevie and her influence and think all these new girls just made it up themselves. Her introspective lyrics and lush melodies.
I wish she'd show them all how it's done by the master--- show the young girls how great she can be when she doesn't let the male producers and managers around her try and remove the airy fairy, candles and veils (as Jimmy Iovine said in his documentary) that are the very things that make her special. I'd love her to do one more solo album that went back to that side of her..... as someone on here noted, the layered vocals through the end of songs are such a hallmark of her style (Sara, Gold Dust Woman, Beautiful Child, even Storms, etc etc) and all the other little things.
tothegypsy
07-22-2017, 05:46 PM
Lana does lovely, elaborate music videos. Here's hoping Stevie's track gets one :)
Love this song.
Stevie sounds amazing....a bit like a careworn echo of the younger woman.
Goosebumps down my spine.
wheart
07-24-2017, 08:50 AM
I'm a huge Lana fan and I listened to the new album in full last night and really love it! BUT, the Stevie duet didn't sound too hot to me. Maybe I need to give it a more spins but those lyrics sounded really clunky and awful. The verses were pretty enough but that chorus needs a lot of work. I wanted to love this song but perhaps I will in time but right now I'm kinda disappointed. I think her duet with Sean Ono Lennon was far superior! :shrug:
Jondalar
07-24-2017, 10:22 AM
I'm a huge Lana fan and I listened to the new album in full last night and really love it! BUT, the Stevie duet didn't sound too hot to me. Maybe I need to give it a more spins but those lyrics sounded really clunky and awful. The verses were pretty enough but that chorus needs a lot of work. I wanted to love this song but perhaps I will in time but right now I'm kinda disappointed. I think her duet with Sean Ono Lennon was far superior! :shrug:
It's like my seventh favorite song off the album. there are 16 songs on this album. This album is pretty much a masterpiece. She is getting great reviews for this.
Cherry and Lust for Life are my two favorite songs right now.
SisterNightroad
07-24-2017, 03:06 PM
Am I the only one who doesn't hear "turtle dove" in Lana's second verse?
I'm not sure but it sort of sound like "Teared up dove", that would actually explain better the following sentence "‘Til it runs red [...] with blood"
Jondalar
07-24-2017, 03:38 PM
Am I the only one who doesn't hear "turtle dove" in Lana's second verse?
I'm not sure but it sort of sound like "Teared up dove", that would actually explain better the following sentence "‘Til it runs red [...] with blood"
It's turtle dove. I think she is trying to say we are destroying the earth and its creatures.
AnthonyMI
07-24-2017, 08:47 PM
Whoa. Stevie falsetto?!!??! Not heard that on a song in a long time. Sorcerer I think? And call on me for magic.
Quite poossibly the best vocal from Stevie since TISL era
bombaysaffires
07-24-2017, 10:25 PM
it's a great vocal, but there's definitely some autotune at work on it.:sorry:
James89
07-25-2017, 11:38 AM
it's a great vocal, but there's definitely some autotune at work on it.:sorry:
I don't hear it.
vivfox
07-25-2017, 02:40 PM
I wish Lana Del Ray wasn't singing on this track. This is an awesome Stevie Nicks song.
James89
07-28-2017, 02:11 PM
Lust For Life has debuted at #1 on the UK albums chart. Woohoo! Looks like it could well be #1 in the US too. So glad Stevie was a part of this fantastic album.
Jondalar
07-28-2017, 03:38 PM
Lust For Life has debuted at #1 on the UK albums chart. Woohoo! Looks like it could well be #1 in the US too. So glad Stevie was a part of this fantastic album.
I love this album. It's the best album I've heard in a long time.
James89
07-28-2017, 05:33 PM
I love this album. It's the best album I've heard in a long time.
I agree with you.
bombaysaffires
07-28-2017, 05:57 PM
I don't hear it.
Listen again. She's auto tuned a lot in recent years. [It's all over her album with Dave Stewart as well.]
Jondalar
07-29-2017, 01:58 AM
I don't know if anyone else has noticed but since Lana's album has come out, Stevie's greatest hits has been charting on the rock music charts. Lana's album is affecting Stevie's own sales a little bit. If she ever releases that song to radio it could affect her even more.
mitzo
07-29-2017, 12:45 PM
I don't know if anyone else has noticed but since Lana's album has come out, Stevie's greatest hits has been charting on the rock music charts. Lana's album is affecting Stevie's own sales a little bit. If she ever releases that song to radio it could affect her even more.
Greatest Hits? You mean Timespace? Crystal Visions? Enchanted? Or individual singles?
Jondalar
07-29-2017, 01:41 PM
Greatest Hits? You mean Timespace? Crystal Visions? Enchanted? Or individual singles?
Crystal Visions
HoursAndHours
07-29-2017, 02:50 PM
Listen again. She's auto tuned a lot in recent years. [It's all over her album with Dave Stewart as well.]
I don't hear it either. On that song or on 24k. I hear multitracking, compression, some questionable eq choices, reverb, de-essing (and not enough of it :laugh:). I don't hear anything resembling pitch correction at all. Can you point to a particular lyric or something?
Jondalar
07-31-2017, 12:09 PM
Lust for Life is #1 album this week in the United State, UK and Australia. Congratulations Lana Well deserved!!!!!
Jondalar
08-01-2017, 03:11 PM
Billboard is trying to screw Lana Del Rey out of the #1 spot with their creative accounting and technical issues.
mitzo
08-01-2017, 05:01 PM
Billboard is trying to screw Lana Del Rey out of the #1 spot with their creative accounting and technical issues.
What is that??
SisterNightroad
12-18-2017, 08:36 AM
Review: Stevie Nicks and Lana Del Rey stunning on new collaboration
Rock and Roll Hall of Famer Stevie Nicks is featured on Lana Del Rey's new album on the track "Beautiful People Beautiful Problems," which was released in July of 2017.
The song was co-written by Del Rey, Nicks, as well as Justin Parker and Rick Nowels. From start to finish, the piano-driven ballad, "Beautiful People Beautiful Problems" is a hypnotic collaboration, that is haunting yet calming. Lana Del Rey is superb thanks to her crisp lead vocals, and Stevie Nicks lends her ethereal voice and soaring harmonies on the track, which helps elevate the tune to a higher level. Both songstresses prove that their vocals are too good to be mortal on "Beautiful People Beautiful Problems," and the song garners an A rating.
This past April, Stevie Nicks headlined Nassau Coliseum on Long Island, as part of her "24 Karat Gold Tour," which earned a glowing review from Digital Journal.
Lana Del Rey and Stevie Nicks' collaboration "Beautiful People Beautiful Problems" is available on Spotify and on iTunes. This song alone is worth the price of the new Lana Del Rey album Lust for Life.
To learn more about Stevie Nicks and her music, check out her official website.
http://www.digitaljournal.com/entertainment/music/review-stevie-nicks-and-lana-del-rey-stunning-on-new-collaboration/article/510227
SisterNightroad
12-29-2017, 03:42 PM
WATCH: Lana Del Rey's 'Lust For Life' Gets The Behind-The-Scenes Treatment
To cap a successful year, Lana Del Rey released a behind-the-scenes look at the making of her chart-topping new album Lust for Life.
The "Love" singer posted a series of short videos on Instagram to give her fans a closer look at the creative process behind the new album. There are eight videos so far.
"Posting this record's writing sessions [in case] I lose my phone again," Del Rey wrote on the caption of one sneak peek videos.
The singer-songwriter included a behind-the-scenes look at the recording sessions for "Beautiful People, Beautiful Problems," a collaboration with music icon Stevie Nicks, and "Change."
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Working With An Icon
Speaking of Nicks, collaborating with the Fleetwood Mac singer was a dream come true for Del Rey. In a conversation with Pitchfork, she recounted the experience of recording alongside the Queen of Rock and Roll. "
At the end of the track, she sings, then I sing, then she sings. I was kinda embarrassed," said the award-winning musician. "I sound so little compared to you," she told Nicks. "That's good, you're my little echo," the music icon responded, according to Del Rey.
The "Young and Beautiful" singer was clearly a fan. She added that Nicks has been nothing but kind and supportive to her, despite the fact that she has been in the industry longer and has achieved far greater successes in her career.
Chart Topper
The 32-year-old's fifth studio album made its debut earlier this year at the number one spot of Billboard 200. Released in July, Lust For Life sold 107,000 equivalent album units in its first week, around 80,000 of which were traditional album sales. This is Del Rey's second album debut at number 1 on the albums chart. The album also earned her a nomination for Best Pop Vocals at the 60th Annual Grammy Awards.
The success of the album might have to do with the singer's seeming new outlook. In Lust for Life, Del Rey's world becomes a little bigger. For the first time, she no longer lives in a bubble where only she and her lover exist.
"With this one, I was thinking about things broader than just my relationships, which was nice for me, and probably nice for my fans, too - a bit of a reprieve," she explained in an interview with Billboard.
Lust for Life is now available on iTunes, Apple Music, Google Play Store, and in record stores worldwide. Del Rey is also set to go on tour across the country starting next month.
http://www.musictimes.com/articles/76382/20171229/watch-lana-del-reys-lust-for-life-gets-the-behind-the-scenes-treatment.htm
SisterNightroad
02-08-2018, 03:13 PM
Groupie Love: Lana Del Rey by Kim K, Stevie Nicks, Courtney Love, & More
by William Defebaugh
02.07.2018
For our debut issue, the enigmatic Lana Del Rey opens up to a cadre of contemporaries, collaborators, and celebrators about everything from music to meditation and the future of mankind.
Issue 1 hits newsstands on February 27. Subscribe to our newsletter to find out when you can order your copy online.
"I don’t belong in the world, that’s what it is. Something separates me from other people. Everywhere I turn, there’s something blocking my escape.” So begins “13 Beaches,” the third track from Lana Del Rey’s most recent album, Lust For Life. Though the voice is almost indistinguishable from the singer’s own, it actually belongs to actress Candace Hilligoss. The sample comes from director Herk Harvey and writer John Clifford’s 1962 cult horror film Carnival of Souls, which follows Hilligoss as Mary Henry, a woman who miraculously survives a car crash. Following this upheaval, she moves to a new town where she struggles to fit in with those around her—and becomes haunted by ghosts and drawn to an abandoned carnival.
Parallels between Henry and Del Rey are easily drawn: A prominent subject of Del Rey’s music has always been tragedy, and what is modern-day fame if not a twisted circus? But luckily for Del Rey, her story has a happier ending. After a successful, albeit somewhat controversial, debut with Born to Die in 2012, she didn’t succumb to the media merry-go-round. Instead, she slowly built her success over the course of the next six years with one highly praised album after another. If there was any doubt as to her talent as an artist, it was eradicated by 2014’s Ultraviolence, which garnered nearly unanimous critical acclaim and was her first album to reach Number One on the Billboard 200.
Whether jaded by journalists or simply desiring to let her music speak for itself, somewhere along the way, Del Rey became a bit of a recluse in regards to the press. (Her 2015 music video for Honeymoon’s “High by the Beach” saw the singer blast a paparazzi helicopter from her balcony.) But this only increased Del Rey’s allure, likely due to the fact that an air of mystery feels refreshing in this overexposed, media-driven era. She became the ringleader of her own act and her silence only contributed to her cult-like following among a generation that had had enough of perky pop.
It was that very generation that inspired the first single off of 2017’s Lust for Life. Released exactly one month after President Trump’s inauguration, “Love” felt like the answer to a collective cultural prayer asking how we might move forward as a nation. It was hopeful in a way that was unfamiliar to her audience, making it all the more powerful. “Don’t worry baby,” she sings on the track, referencing a Beach Boys song released in the ’60s, another era of societal unrest. Not long after came the album (the cover of which shows her beaming smile) and more political tracks. “There were things I’ve wanted to say for so long and the environment was not a great place to be outspoken,” she says. “All I can ever think of every day when I wake up is how grateful I am that that’s changing. That’s my whole life right now.”
If Mary Henry capitulated to life’s carnival, Del Rey seems to have conquered it. She’s kicking off 2018 with her largest U.S. tour yet, playing sold out shows in arenas across the country. At 32, she’s become a legend, with a devoted following that includes a variety of celebrities. (Courtney Love proudly listens to her music on repeat and who could forget when Kim Kardashian and Kanye West asked her to perform at their wedding?) As she tells a select group of said fans for this cover story, she’s having the time of her life.
KIM KARDASHIAN WEST
You have such amazing style and I love how you’ve been able to turn retro classic looks into your own. Who was your biggest beauty influence growing up?
I was sort of a late bloomer with style and everything really. I loved Joan Baez—I just really identified with her character. I loved Lauren Bacall. I saw a rerun of The Dick Clark Show with Janice Joplin on it and she had feathers in her hair and I thought she was so cool, so her as well. And I really like what you’re doing now. I love your style update, with your hair and the nudes and mauves. I’m watching you. I’ve got my eye on you.
If you weren’t writing or making music, what would you be doing?
I would be a doula, or maybe working with kids.
Can you cook?
[Laughs] No.
COURTNEY LOVE
Why have you stolen my unconscious and made me your musical slave?
[Laughs] If you had told me that one day Courtney Love would listen to me on repeat, I would just not have believed you.
Do you agree that yours is probably the smartest hair dye in show business history, other than Marilyn [Monroe]’s?
[Laughs] Yes.
Make me a favorite song playlist right now.
Okay. Hole, “Celebrity Skin.” The Flamingos, “I Only Have Eyes for You.” Migos, “Bad and Boujee.” A$AP Rocky, “L$D.” Simon & Garfunkel, “Scarborough Fair.” Janis Joplin, “Mercedes Benz.” The Eagles, “Hotel California." Lou Reed, “Perfect Day.”
How are you liking the big huge venues?
I can’t believe that I’m doing an American arena tour. I still have this amazing photo framed of me and you on the marquee of the Hollywood Bowl. I actually think of that every time I’m in these arenas because that was our biggest venue: 24,000 people. You said the funniest thing when the kids wouldn’t be quiet. You were like, “Listen you ****ing fetuses! I was ****ing famous before you were even born!” That was my favorite moment. I’m loving it.
What’s your favorite song on Lust for Life?
I like “Coachella,” actually. I put it in the song exactly the way I was thinking about it driving home. I love when I can do that. And for me, it was such a culmination of things: Seeing Father John Misty, being with his wife; realizing there was a real problem with North Korea, that it was an impending, bigger world problem. It was to the point where I did not want to go home after the festival. I stopped at this crazy place called Rim of the World Highway in Lake Arrowhead [California]. I sat there, went to the redwood grove, and really had a moment with myself.
Are you okay with kids knowing you don’t do drugs or drink? I think you should be.
I don’t know how I feel about that yet. There’s a reason why people keep certain things private, but at the same time, it is a big part of my life. So, it is what it is.
STEVIE NICKS
Dear Lana, are we planning on spending the summer in our fantastic apartments in the Hollywood sign?
Stevie! Sweet angel! Yes don’t worry I’ve already began planning the summer but I was thinking we could spend half of our time on that boat we were talking (maybe shoot a video for "Beautiful People, Beautiful Problems.") I was thinking we could kick it off on the Summer Solstice — what do you think?
Are we still going to have the fabulous dinners and parties? Long gowns required. (I realize no one will know what we're taking about!)
Yes to fab parties with long dresses, folk music, and all the most fun people in attendance. I started a guest list I’m going to send over to see what you think. (The men are the trickiest part.) Should we invite the local gossip columnists too or keep it low key? I was thinking open bar, but buffet-style only. Lots of twinkling garden lights on our shared deck.
Have you enjoyed your new record Lust For Life and why, since it's so different?
I can’t tell you how much I’ve enjoyed touring this new record and a lot of my happy feelings about it kicked off when I was talking to you and we were so on the same wavelength about how nice it is to turn a corner for the better. Obviously you have to really be changing to write a record that’s different from the rest of your discography, but it feels good to be slowly catching up in my personal life to some of the more cheerful sentiments I was writing about over the last two years.
GRIMES
What do you think about artificial intelligence? Do you think it will be good or bad for humanity?
I think it’s just a natural progression of where technology has been leading to up until now. I think the advancements of AI will be benefits. I don’t think it will get to the point where we are boycotting the robot community because they’ve taken all of our jobs. That said, I did hear that Amazon’s just become the first company to deliver via drone, which I’m very excited but also nervous about, because I’ve had such bad experiences with drones. So, don’t take my word for it.
Who is your favorite country music singer? Are there country music influences in your work?
Yes, lots of country. I am from upstate New York. They used to call it “the Deep South of the North.” I like Tammy Wynette, Hank Williams, a little bit of Dolly Parton.
Would you go to Mars, even if it meant dying there?
Hell to the no! [laughs] Are you kidding? Loco. Who could ever leave the Earth behind?
If you could live behind the eyes of any writer in history and silently view their life from their perspective, who would you choose?
[William] Shakespeare. Was it one man? A community of people who wrote all of those game-changing plays?
ALESSANDRO MICHELE
What particularly crazy thing did you do as a teenage rockstar?
When I was a teenager, we used to get weekend passes from school and go out to places like the Limelight and dance all night. I remember being so tired for my English classes on Monday but thinking, I’m going to move to New York City one day.
Where did the inspiration for your marvelous vintage world come from?
I guess part of my retro sensibility comes from my love of old movies from when I was a teenager. I remember seeing films like A Place in the Sun with Elizabeth Taylor or films with Natalie Wood and thinking that they were so beautiful. As much as I loved ’50s films, I loved ’60s music, and still do above any genre.
SEAN ONO LENNON
Do you remember what it was like to listen to a song and just hear an overall sound? Do you ever wish you could go back and hear music that way?
That reminds me of when I heard the Beach Boys for the first time and all I got was that sunshiney feeling of good vibrations. [Now] I hear every instrument, everything. My mixing and mastering process of my records is a half year long and painstaking, but it’s totally worth it. I wouldn’t have it any other way. Even though it’s so hard to be neurotic, it’s for a reason.
Do you feel like the decline of pop music culture is on the horizon? What about the decline of civilization in general? Is there a connection between the two?
Probably, but I don’t really know what it is. I think really, there’s a rise of sociopathy and narcissism, and a mental health crisis. Everyone’s kind of becoming aware of the fact that that needs to be fully addressed. Maybe there is a link. It’s probably related to consciousness.
If most people don’t care about Mozart operas now, will anyone care about Ziggy Stardust in 100 years? Will we even still be living on the planet Earth by then?
[Laughs] Well, I’m a realist as much as I am a mystic. I believe we will still be on the planet until extremely different conditions. I bet we’ll still have holographic Ziggy concerts. I want to send my own [holographic] concert on tour in a few years—this one, L.A. to the Moon— because I love it. Empires and genres, they all have their rises and falls.
MARINA AND THE DIAMONDS
To what extent do you think our personalities are shaped by the way we look?
Up until this point in our culture, I think half. Hopefully, from this point onward, it can be less. It’s kind of like that nature-versus-nurture question. I think it’s similar in the way that you’re just living with yourself all the time. But obviously, when you have a strong personality, you can surpass any first judgment people may have on you.
BØRNS
Do you know the mood you want to set going into a record?
I do when I’m halfway through, even three songs deep if they’re written well enough. Luckily for me, I wrote “Lust for Life” on the day that I finished Honeymoon, two years ago. I knew everything was going to be in a different hue, I just didn’t quite know how.
What’s your most personal song?
“Heroin.”
If you could change any one thing about the music industry, what would it be?
More female producers.
RICK NOWELS
Did you read poetry as a teenager?
Yes. One of my biggest influences was my 10th grade teacher, Gene Campbell. He introduced me to the Beat poets, Allen Ginsberg, as well as writers like [Vladimir] Nabokov, [Walt] Whitman...Even 15 years later, they’re still my biggest literary influences. When we read all the classics like [John Keats’s] “Ode on a Grecian Urn” and I learned what it meant for poetry to have different beats that gave it a rhythm—and I started thinking about whether I could write poems.
If you could visit any historical era—and hang out with a key player of that era—what would it be?
I would totally go see Janis Joplin, Jimi Hendrix, Haight-Ashbury in San Francisco. Summer of Love, that’s my jam.
What were the first songs that really affected you as a young girl?
I remember hearing the Beach Boys in the car— that was the one CD we had. Paul Simon, Simon & Garfunkel. I was in Catholic school and I went to church through school my whole life, so I was the cantor for most of my life. So, a lot of traditional hymns. I don’t know if I’d say that was an inspiration, but that’s definitely what I knew. And then, when I was 15, I got into hip-hop. That same teacher, Gene Campbell, kind of opened up my world with the Roots and Biggie and Tupac.
FAN SUBMISSIONS
Do you consider yourself a spiritual person? —Ian
Yes. I believe you are your own doorway to an understanding of something greater. I never think of how I can get bigger or better, I just think, How can I go deeper? How can I know myself more so that I’m a clearer conduit for whatever else is in the ether? Meditation’s a big part of my life. I was already doing that when I was young, thinking about what I wanted to do, things I wanted to manifest. And most of it was about the written word. I really like to channel through writing in my own small way. I don’t consider myself a truth seeker in that way. I’m just my own dialogue.
What makes you feel hopeful? —Gabriel
Really good music. Or meeting someone who I’m sure has zero ulterior motives. Being in the middle of a tour, too.
So much of your music is about love. What has it taught you? —Emily
That it’s not what I thought. And that the best is yet to come.
Have you ever considered writing and directing your own feature-length or short film? —Toni
I thought about writing a biopic about someone that wasn’t real. Actually, I was asked to write a musical, which I’ve started. It was for Broadway. I may finish in two or three years. Me and Rick have written something, so we’ll see.
Which actress or director would you choose for a biopic based on your life? —Dixie
I’m thinking a big picture here, because I love Baz Luhrmann. Not sure who would play me though.
How much do you believe in supernatural things, like astrology and witchcraft? —Vera
I believe that you can enhance your intuition through living your best life. I’ve really found that by doing the next right thing, you are led to this path of synchronicity that gives your life a supernatural edge. I’m all about doing unto others as you would have done unto you.
Is there a quote you consider your life motto? —Maciej
One thing I wish I knew when I was younger is that the answers are within you. Everything you need to know you can access through your own practices and knowledge and the things that you’ve learned. I used to think that other people could show the way. So, I usually say, “To thine own self be true.”
https://www.lofficielusa.com/music/lana-del-rey-cover-story
SisterNightroad
02-25-2018, 10:03 AM
Lana Del Rey says Stevie Nicks was 'full of surprises'
Lana Del Rey has revealed Stevie Nicks was "full of surprises" when they worked together in the studio.
The 'Beautiful People, Beautiful Problems' singer was working with the iconic rock star on the track for her latest album 'Lust for Life', and she found it delightful to work with a legend with such a great attitude.
Speaking on World Cafe on National Public Radio, she said: "Funny enough, I had wanted her to open the song -- 'cause, you know, she's Stevie.
"But she didn't want to. She wanted to take the second verse and step into it. So, yeah, she was full of surprises.
"She gave me a little golden diamond H, cause she always joked about how when I got older, I would live in the H and she would live in the W of the Hollywood sign -- turn it into a little A-frame house. I was like, 'Really? Let's do it.' "
Lana admitted the session with the Fleetwood Mac star was memorable for all the right reasons, and she was amazed when Stevie took inspiration from her own vocal takes.
She added: "I remember so many different things about that session. She wanted me to go in and do something at the end, like a little tag.
"I got on the microphone and I had, like, red-light fever because she was watching me. I said, 'That was bad, my voice was breaking.' And she's like, "I like that it was breaking. I'm gonna try and do it like you now."
http://www.pantagraph.com/entertainment/music/lana-del-rey-says-stevie-nicks-was-full-of-surprises/article_d8b30756-f43a-57fb-98fa-d264447795a5.html
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