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tango87
04-23-2017, 04:32 AM
This is the first review I've seen...

'Lindsey Buckingham & Christine McVie - ****

Fleetwood Mac's new not-quite Fleetwood Mac album

The party line is that Stevie Nicks's solo commitments have forced Fleetwood Mac to put their next album on hold. But as the recent Tango In The Night reissue proved, Lindsey Buckingham and Christine McVie were often the band's great unsung partnership. Confusingly, this duets album also includes bass guitarist John McVie and drummer Mick Fleetwood, making it essentially Fleetwood Mac minus Nicks.
McVie brings the sing-song pop (Feel About You, Red Sun) and the slightly cloying Game Of Pretend; Buckingham, the whispered vocals and fingernail-splitting guitar solos on Sleeping Around The Corner and Love Is Here To Stay, plus the album's best song: In My World.
Does it miss Stevie Nicks? Yes, just as the last Fleetwood Mac album, 2003's Say You Will, missed Christine McVie. But until all parties can sync their calendars, this will do nicely.

Mark Blake'

Might not please those non-'In My World' fans...

MoonSister75
04-23-2017, 05:04 AM
Thanks for posting the review.

plus the album's best song: In My World.


Oh dear, that's probably not what people wanted to hear. Best to set your expectations low :shrug:

Let's hope he's wrong and maybe we'll be pleasantly surprised.

lennonfan
04-23-2017, 05:06 AM
Thanks for posting the review.



Oh dear, that's probably not what people wanted to hear. Best to set your expectations low :shrug:

Lets hope he's wrong and maybe we'll be pleasantly surprised.

amen to that

SisterNightroad
04-23-2017, 06:06 AM
I agree with all of you, however I'm happy that the first review is both positive and straightforward.

BombaySapphire3
04-23-2017, 08:11 AM
Just what I was afraid of..oh well every band has it's day and Fleetwood Mac sure had theirs.

bwboy
04-23-2017, 08:13 AM
I like the way the critic called the album what it is- a FM album without Stevie, just like Say You Will was a FM album without Christine. Simple and to the point. And I do wish be had gone into more detail about how the 'duets' sound and whether Christine and Lindsey's harmonies are reminiscent of earlier FM albums.

But yeah, his comment that In My World is the best song on the album does lower my expectations :distress:

FuzzyPlum
04-23-2017, 08:59 AM
Just what I was afraid of..oh well every band has it's day and Fleetwood Mac sure had theirs.


But it was a fairly positive review :confused:

stevierocks87
04-23-2017, 09:22 AM
More whispered vocals. Bleh.

Jondalar
04-23-2017, 09:57 AM
Although this review is positive, it makes me dread the album. If In My World is the best single, probably going to be a nice but forgettable album.

elle
04-23-2017, 11:20 AM
I like the way the critic called the album what it is- a FM album without Stevie, just like Say You Will was a FM album without Christine. Simple and to the point. And I do wish be had gone into more detail about how the 'duets' sound and whether Christine and Lindsey's harmonies are reminiscent of earlier FM albums. :

and.................. drumroll! i agree with bwboy again! what happened??

frankly, if someone thinks that IMW is a great song, then their musical tastes are very different than mine and i can't take their opinion as something that will give me any hints about other songs. and the song we already know, SATC is a much much better song than IMW, so...

jbrownsjr
04-23-2017, 11:23 AM
and.................. drumroll! i agree with bwboy again! what happened??

frankly, if someone thinks that IMW is a great song, then their musical tastes are very different than mine and i can't take their opinion as something that will give me any hints about other songs. and the song we already know, SATC is a much much better song than IMW, so...

I can't wait to hear SATC.. And if you keep this up w/ bwboy, I'm going to become a pure chiffon and you both won't like that... believe me.. lol:lol:

jbrownsjr
04-23-2017, 11:25 AM
I love the first single and 4 stars is great. But, I'm hoping the album gets better.

SisterNightroad
04-23-2017, 11:34 AM
I'm going to become a pure chiffon and you both won't like that... believe me.. lol:lol:
https://i.giphy.com/csdOpJVVo3yTu.gif

jbrownsjr
04-23-2017, 12:34 PM
https://i.giphy.com/csdOpJVVo3yTu.gif

LOL.. my best friend says I"m Bette Davis.. which might help you understand me better.

SisterNightroad
04-23-2017, 12:51 PM
LOL.. my best friend says I"m Bette Davis.. which might help you understand me better.
In what way, does he mean that you're a bitch or that you're fabulous (or both)?

MikeVielhaber
04-23-2017, 01:01 PM
and.................. drumroll! i agree with bwboy again! what happened??

frankly, if someone thinks that IMW is a great song, then their musical tastes are very different than mine and i can't take their opinion as something that will give me any hints about other songs. and the song we already know, SATC is a much much better song than IMW, so...

Exactly, some people like "In My World". A lot, apparently. That doesn't make them wrong. I always want to know how any reviewer feels about other things I like or dislike. For it to matter at all you have to have similar tastes. If someone hates Fleetwood Mac and then goes and reviews the new album and hates it....as a Fleetwood Mac fan, who cares what they think? No need to lower expectations because this guy likes "In My World". That's just not rational.

MoonSister75
04-23-2017, 01:27 PM
I like IMW and I'm looking forward to hearing all the songs. To get a 4/5 review is great and the reviewer clearly likes the album - "this will do nicely for now". It's also very much personal opinion as to which song anyone thinks is the best of an album. It's very probable that fans will prefer other songs on there.

He just seemed very definite with "IMW is the best song" and that rang warning bells, given how much it's been slated by numerous ledgies.

As I said earlier, I just hope we feel differently than he does about which is the best song.

elle
04-23-2017, 01:40 PM
IAs I said earlier, I just hope we feel differently than he does about which is the best song.

you know, i was just reading that thread about Seeds We Sow songs when we first heard them live, before the album came out. (it's 6 years today since that concert where he played 6 new songs for us, 4 months before the album was released.) so many fans loved Stars, it was their favorite song. i disliked it and it's still the only song i skip on that album. then the other group liked Stars but really loved That The Way Love Goes. i was in loving TTWLG group. and then yet third group loved In Our Own Time the best of the 6 we've heard live. and that was all months before we heard that heavenly snippet of Rock Away Blind on his website. so what i'm trying to say - you never know, tastes are different!

SteveMacD
04-23-2017, 02:11 PM
Another thing to consider is that Mojo is largely an indie rock magazine, and I can hear how IMW would appeal to certain indie sensibilities.

bwboy
04-23-2017, 02:22 PM
and.................. drumroll! i agree with bwboy again! what happened??

It might be my new meds... I'm trying to be a jerk but when I type a rude or sarcastic comment, it comes out polite and restrained lol!

MoonSister75
04-23-2017, 03:59 PM
you know, i was just reading that thread about Seeds We Sow songs when we first heard them live, before the album came out. (it's 6 years today since that concert where he played 6 new songs for us, 4 months before the album was released.) so many fans loved Stars, it was their favorite song. i disliked it and it's still the only song i skip on that album. then the other group liked Stars but really loved That The Way Love Goes. i was in loving TTWLG group. and then yet third group loved In Our Own Time the best of the 6 we've heard live. and that was all months before we heard that heavenly snippet of Rock Away Blind on his website. so what i'm trying to say - you never know, tastes are different!

Yes it's all very subjective as to which songs we prefer, and sometimes songs take time to grow on us. Given that it got a 4/5 in Mojo which is a magazine that I like and respect, I'm certain there will songs on there I'll like at much as IMW, and hopefully that I'll like more :)

michelej1
04-23-2017, 04:07 PM
and.................. drumroll! i agree with bwboy again! what happened??

frankly, if someone thinks that IMW is a great song, then their musical tastes are very different than mine and i can't take their opinion as something that will give me any hints about other songs. and the song we already know, SATC is a much much better song than IMW, so...

You make a good point. This guy might think most of Lindsey's Tusk songs are garbage, so we don't know enough about him to trust his review.

When I was a lass, I knew Siskel and Ebert as a duo so well, that depending on what each one said, I could tell whether I would like a movie or not. Now, when Siskel died, when I just got Ebert's review, I couldn't really judge by own reaction to the movie in advance based on his thoughts alone. So, you have to know how you relate to the reviewer(s). Michele

Macfan4life
04-23-2017, 04:43 PM
Lets not jump to any conclusions until we each have the album in hand and listen to it several times. Its possible the lead single is the most "commercial" and that is a good sign. Who wants commercial pop songs? Well maybe some of us (here) :eek:
When I bought In the Meantime and Say You Will, I thought they were ok. It was not until listening several times and a month later that I realized how good the albums are.
Some are judging a book by its cover or in this case... by one song.
The only thing that worries me is the reviews. Usually whatever the professional reviewers say, I seem to think the opposite. Rolling Stone trashed Landslide and The Wild Heart but loved Tango and Behind The Mask. The only review from Rolling Stone I agreed with was "Nicks slips out of touch" for Rock A Little. Nothing could have nailed a better review calling her Talk To me a Cindi Lauper hit and the entire album seems "unfocused" Ya think?

aleuzzi
04-23-2017, 05:30 PM
It's a good review. I'm not worried about the reviewer citing IMW as the best song. Some reviewers cited Big Love as the best song from Tango when that album came out--and even since. IMW is a very good song. I'm just annoyed I'm not hearing Cnristine on it. At all. Still, as a bench mark for the quality of the album, it's understandable.

I just can't wait to get my hands on the Christine material. If it's anything like ITM, then I'll be stoked.

Stormwind
04-23-2017, 06:01 PM
A good review means a lot to Lindsey and Christine, they worked hard for this project and I guess there's always a personal preference in terms of picking the best song out of an album. I'll take this review for what it is: good press.

pattyfan
04-23-2017, 07:40 PM
Taste is subjective, so I'm happy it's getting good press, and I hope it's great, but I think I will probably base my opinion on Chris's songs just because her output has been so small in the last 20 years. Here's to hoping (but trying not to get my expectations up).

Kevin

jbrownsjr
04-23-2017, 08:37 PM
In what way, does he mean that you're a bitch or that you're fabulous (or both)?

both.. lol

jbrownsjr
04-23-2017, 08:47 PM
Taste is subjective, so I'm happy it's getting good press, and I hope it's great, but I think I will probably base my opinion on Chris's songs just because her output has been so small in the last 20 years. Here's to hoping (but trying not to get my expectations up).

Kevin

She's put out 13 songs in the last 13 years. (if you count Come Out to Play)

aleuzzi
04-23-2017, 09:30 PM
She's put out 13 songs in the last 13 years. (if you count Come Out to Play)

Yes! Which doesn't count her five on the forthcoming album.

I remember her saying in the ITM press interview that she and Dan would have worked on more if they weren't happy with all of the 12 on ITM. I presume there were more song ideas beyond Come Out to Play.

pattyfan
04-23-2017, 09:37 PM
She's put out 13 songs in the last 13 years. (if you count Come Out to Play)

I'm confused. Are you saying that's a lot? :)

Kevin

jbrownsjr
04-23-2017, 10:18 PM
I'm confused. Are you saying that's a lot? :)

Kevin

No, I'm wishing it was much more. I was just calculating.

SpyNote
04-23-2017, 10:52 PM
Thanks for posting the review.

Oh dear, that's probably not what people wanted to hear. Best to set your expectations low :shrug:

Let's hope he's wrong and maybe we'll be pleasantly surprised.

I cringed a bit when I read that, too. IMW is OK, but as the lead single, Christine should really be singing on it. Otherwise, it sounds like a Lindsey solo track. This whole project is supposed to be their a-ha moment around their musical chemistry.

I love all of their past collaborations, so I'm hoping to be pleasantly surprised too.

secondhandchain
04-23-2017, 11:48 PM
I mean this reviewer calls "Family man" one of the best tracks on Tango..so there is hope.

http://www.allmusic.com/album/tango-in-the-night-mw0000189877

24karatstevie
04-24-2017, 01:43 AM
I mean this reviewer calls "Family man" one of the best tracks on Tango..so there is hope.

http://www.allmusic.com/album/tango-in-the-night-mw0000189877
Haha good to know. We gotta stay positive!

Jondalar
04-24-2017, 11:44 AM
Yeah this is the anti-review. It hurts rather than helps even though it's positive.

Macfan4life
04-24-2017, 11:48 AM
I mean this reviewer calls "Family man" one of the best tracks on Tango..so there is hope.

http://www.allmusic.com/album/tango-in-the-night-mw0000189877
Family Man is a brilliant track if you strip the cheezy lyrics and corny chorus. If you stripped all vocals from every track on Tango, Family Man would be one of the best if not the best track on Tango. IMHO lyrics are not usually Lindsey's strength. Amazing guitar playing on Family Man and I feel bad the song gets trashed because the track musically is really good.

TrueFaith77
04-24-2017, 11:57 AM
Family Man is a brilliant track if you strip the cheezy lyrics and corny chorus. If you stripped all vocals from every track on Tango, Family Man would be one of the best if not the best track on Tango. IMHO lyrics are not usually Lindsey's strength. Amazing guitar playing on Family Man and I feel bad the song gets trashed because the track musically is really good.

I love everything about it.

bwboy
04-24-2017, 11:59 AM
I hate the music in Family Man as much as the lyrics, etc. If the critic thought Family Man was the best song on Tango, I'm even more bummed now. On the other hand, music is subjective, so I'm still optimistic...

jbrownsjr
04-24-2017, 12:38 PM
Family Man is a brilliant track if you strip the cheezy lyrics and corny chorus. If you stripped all vocals from every track on Tango, Family Man would be one of the best if not the best track on Tango. IMHO lyrics are not usually Lindsey's strength. Amazing guitar playing on Family Man and I feel bad the song gets trashed because the track musically is really good.

The music really moves me. I wish they would have extended the guitar. It's sublime.

Say You Will
04-24-2017, 01:20 PM
There must be something wrong with me.
I like all the songs others are hating.

Family Man, In My World, others i can't remember right now

Even Silver Girl and the rest of Say You Will:shrug:

jbrownsjr
04-24-2017, 02:24 PM
There must be something wrong with me.
I like all the songs others are hating.

Family Man, In My World, others i can't remember right now

Even Silver Girl and the rest of Say You Will:shrug:

Nothing wrong with you. We have a picky bunch. And I love IMW and FM.

secondhandchain
04-24-2017, 03:15 PM
There must be something wrong with me.
I like all the songs others are hating.

Family Man, In My World, others i can't remember right now

Even Silver Girl and the rest of Say You Will:shrug:


I don't hate Family man AT ALL. Love the mx but it's just not the best song on the album. So i was merely pointing out the In My World (as much as I like it) might not be the best on the album. I want more.

blinker12
04-25-2017, 06:16 AM
Thanks xhector!

Has anyone by chance converted this file to something that can be played on a Mac?