Board politics

[MoonSister75]

I'm confused, shouldn't some of these posts be moderated according to the rules and guidelines of the Ledge. I'm often baffled as to how it's allowed to continue, as there are so many posts that are inflammatory and seem to only have the intent of provoking other readers. And now hateful sexist remarks are ok? :confused:

From the FAQ

- If all you have to add are harrassing, insulting, taunting, nasty remarks or name-calling, you'll be asked to go somewhere else. Taunting is defined as "aggravation by deriding, mocking, criticizing or carping".
• Any statement that defames, abuses or threatens others
• Derogatory statements that could be construed as bigoted, hateful or racially offensive or comments defaming sexual orientation
• In expressing your devotion to one member of Fleetwood Mac, please try to avoid belittling the accomplishments of the others.

Surely some of these posts could be regarded as trolling?
a person who sows discord on the Internet by starting arguments or upsetting people, by posting inflammatory,[1] extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a newsgroup, forum, chat room, or blog) with the intent of provoking readers into an emotional response[2] or of otherwise disrupting normal, on-topic discussion,[3] often for the troll's amusement.

[Jondalar]

​I'm confused, shouldn't some of these posts be moderated according to the rules and guidelines of the Ledge. I'm often baffled as to how it's allowed to continue, as there are so many posts that are inflammatory and seem to only have the intent of provoking other readers. And now hateful sexist remarks are ok? :confused:

From the FAQ

- If all you have to add are harrassing, insulting, taunting, nasty remarks or name-calling, you'll be asked to go somewhere else. Taunting is defined as "aggravation by deriding, mocking, criticizing or carping".
• Any statement that defames, abuses or threatens others
• Derogatory statements that could be construed as bigoted, hateful or racially offensive or comments defaming sexual orientation
• In expressing your devotion to one member of Fleetwood Mac, please try to avoid belittling the accomplishments of the others.

Surely some of these posts could be regarded as trolling?
a person who sows discord on the Internet by starting arguments or upsetting people, by posting inflammatory,[1] extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a newsgroup, forum, chat room, or blog) with the intent of provoking readers into an emotional response[2] or of otherwise disrupting normal, on-topic discussion,[3] often for the troll's amusement.

Snowflake alert...

How typical. For years, Lindsey was targeted by the Stevie fans, who blamed him for everything. They would always get their digs in and make fun of him. Now their queen has exposed herself, and she is getting targeted.

Fake outrage to shut people up. No rules were broken. You just don't want to hear opinions that aren't like yours.

[FuzzyPlum]

Snowflake alert...

How typical. For years, Lindsey was targeted by the Stevie fans, who blamed him for everything. They would always get their digs in and make fun of him. Now their queen has exposed herself, and she is getting targeted.

Fake outrage to shut people up. No rules were broken. You just don't want to hear opinions that aren't like yours.


As has been said, there is absolutely nothing wrong with expressing displeasure at band members and having disagreements. If you want to target Stevie that's up to you. However there is a line to be drawn regarding what is or is not acceptable. Espousing burning Stevie is unacceptable in my view. You may not actually mean that you would like to see her burned to death but that is essentially what you are suggesting. It is a crime to advocate murdering somebody so I'd say rules are being broken.
All this because she's decided she doesn't wish to record an album with your favourite band. Put things into some context- if her actions are enough to solicit such feelings in you then that's really quite disturbing- perhaps some inward reflection is warranted. As is always the case, its easy to sit there at your computer and type sh!t you'd never say directly to somebody in person.

By the way, I'm not familiar with the term 'snowflake'. It does however feel as if it has implied homophobic undertones. Perhaps I'm taking it in the wrong way though.

[Aussie W/Heart]

​I'm confused, shouldn't some of these posts be moderated according to the rules and guidelines of the Ledge. I'm often baffled as to how it's allowed to continue, as there are so many posts that are inflammatory and seem to only have the intent of provoking other readers. And now hateful sexist remarks are ok? :confused:

From the FAQ

- If all you have to add are harrassing, insulting, taunting, nasty remarks or name-calling, you'll be asked to go somewhere else. Taunting is defined as "aggravation by deriding, mocking, criticizing or carping".
• Any statement that defames, abuses or threatens others
• Derogatory statements that could be construed as bigoted, hateful or racially offensive or comments defaming sexual orientation
• In expressing your devotion to one member of Fleetwood Mac, please try to avoid belittling the accomplishments of the others.

Surely some of these posts could be regarded as trolling?
a person who sows discord on the Internet by starting arguments or upsetting people, by posting inflammatory,[1] extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a newsgroup, forum, chat room, or blog) with the intent of provoking readers into an emotional response[2] or of otherwise disrupting normal, on-topic discussion,[3] often for the troll's amusement.

:shocked:These rules are broken in almost every 2nd post by the same obnoxious schoolyard pack members, & notice all the pats on back or your my new best friend after the name calling & never ending insults towards SN.. its all pretty laughable, that a few adults on here carry on like this.. :shrug:

[MoonSister75]

Snowflake alert...

How typical. For years, Lindsey was targeted by the Stevie fans, who blamed him for everything. They would always get their digs in and make fun of him. Now their queen has exposed herself, and she is getting targeted.

Fake outrage to shut people up. No rules were broken. You just don't want to hear opinions that aren't like yours.


I wasn't on this board at that time, so I don't have any experience of that particular Lindsey bashing.

You have reacted very strongly to what I thought was a straight forward post. Believe me, it's definitely not fake outrage. I've honestly seen numerous posts within the last year that I don't believe comply with the rules of this board, and don't make it a very welcoming place to be, and I'm enquiring about that. No one is asking anyone to shut up.

And if snowflake is supposed to be an insult towards me that's fine - I happen to love snow, and snowflakes are beautiful in my world :)

[SisterNightroad]

​I'm confused, shouldn't some of these posts be moderated according to the rules and guidelines of the Ledge. I'm often baffled as to how it's allowed to continue, as there are so many posts that are inflammatory and seem to only have the intent of provoking other readers. And now hateful sexist remarks are ok? :confused:

From the FAQ

- If all you have to add are harrassing, insulting, taunting, nasty remarks or name-calling, you'll be asked to go somewhere else. Taunting is defined as "aggravation by deriding, mocking, criticizing or carping".
• Any statement that defames, abuses or threatens others
• Derogatory statements that could be construed as bigoted, hateful or racially offensive or comments defaming sexual orientation
• In expressing your devotion to one member of Fleetwood Mac, please try to avoid belittling the accomplishments of the others.

Surely some of these posts could be regarded as trolling?
a person who sows discord on the Internet by starting arguments or upsetting people, by posting inflammatory,[1] extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a newsgroup, forum, chat room, or blog) with the intent of provoking readers into an emotional response[2] or of otherwise disrupting normal, on-topic discussion,[3] often for the troll's amusement.
I can only offer a few general insights on this since it's not my exact area of competence, however the first rules actually refer to statements pointed towards other members of the board, not members of the band.
The last is a more grey area and in fact it's assembled more as an advice than a rule. In those cases it's hard to draw a line between what constitutes a violation and what doesn't, and there's a fine line between preserving the peace and overmoderating too.
Generally the politics of this board tries to leave to members the most freedom of expression possible because it's best to exceed on the side of freedom than on the side of constraint.

[lulu28]

:shocked:These rules are broken in almost every 2nd post by the same obnoxious schoolyard pack members, & notice all the pats on back or your my new best friend after the name calling & never ending insults towards SN.. its all pretty laughable, that a few adults on here carry on like this.. :shrug:

^^^^ This exactly! Bravo!!! :xoxo:

[sue]

I'm not too sure what "snowflake" means these days..

But it's origin goes back to 1860..and was a term used for someone who was against the abolition of slavery...

[lulu28]

I'm not too sure what "snowflake" means these days..

But it's origin goes back to 1860..and was a term used for someone who was against the abolition of slavery...

Snowflake is a derogatory term that was and is used to describe liberals during the f'ed up presidential election fiasco. If you didn't support Trump you were deemed a snowflake. So now, haters use it for everyone who they disagree with.

Apparently, it's also used on this board as a term for anyone who calls 'fans' out on their Stevie bashing. It's just another way to be nasty. :mad:

[SteveMacD]

From Wikipedia

Generation Snowflake, or Snowflake Generation, is a term used to characterize people who became adults in the 2000s and 2010s as being more prone to taking offence and less resilient than previous generations, or as being too emotionally vulnerable to cope with views that challenge their own. The term is considered derogatory.

[sue]

Snowflake is a derogatory term that was and is used to describe liberals during the f'ed up presidential election fiasco. If you didn't support Trump you were deemed a snowflake. So now, haters use it for everyone who they disagree with.

Apparently, it's also used on this board as a term for anyone who calls 'fans' out on their Stevie bashing. It's just another way to be nasty. :mad:

Aaah get it....
thanks Lulu.

[MoonSister75]

I can only offer a few general insights on this since it's not my exact area of competence, however the first rules actually refer to statements pointed towards other members of the board, not members of the band.
The last is a more grey area and in fact it's assembled more as an advice than a rule. In those cases it's hard to draw a line between what constitutes a violation and what doesn't, and there's a fine line between preserving the peace and overmoderating too.
Generally the politics of this board tries to leave to members the most freedom of expression possible because it's best to exceed on the side of freedom than on the side of constraint.


Thanks for the explanation sisternightroad, I'm sure it can be a difficult task deciding when posts have stepped over the line, and I understand you don't want to overmoderate.
I guess we'll just have to all keep arguing then :shrug:;)

And thanks for all the explanations of the term "snowflakes". I had some idea of it's recent usage. Snowflakes really are beautiful though - I've just been looking on google images (no images of sensitive young adults on there) . We rarely get snow here, so when it does fall it's a magical event.

[FuzzyPlum]

If anyone with an interest in basic human decency is considered a 'snowflake' then...
...let it snow, let it snow, let it snow

[lulu28]

If anyone with an interest in basic human decency is considered a 'snowflake' then...
...let it snow, let it snow, let it snow

Yes, exactly!!!

[MoonSister75]

I know we are going a bit off-topic here (although it makes a change from the Stevie bashing....)

I watched a great TED talk the other day on highly sensitive people - for anyone interested https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pi4JOlMSWjo

It kind of turns the whole derogatory, overly sensitive snowflake thing, on its head.

[gldstwmn]

I know we are going a bit off-topic here (although it makes a change from the Stevie bashing....)

I watched a great TED talk the other day on highly sensitive people - for anyone interested https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pi4JOlMSWjo

It kind of turns the whole derogatory, overly sensitive snowflake thing, on its head.

Thanks for this! I can't wait to watch.

[MoonSister75]

Thanks for this! I can't wait to watch.

That's great - I'm glad it's of interest :)

[jbrownsjr]

That's great - I'm glad it's of interest :)

I like it. It was cute and interesting. She's funny.

[MikeInNV]

It is absolutely laughable to call Nicks fans snowflakes with the way this Board has been for the last several months. The insults toward her (while allowable because she's a celebrity, not a Board member, yada yada yada) have become ubiquitous. Even if you don't like Stevie, I can't believe people don't find it tedious to have the same insults repeated over and over ad nauseam, or to have these comments shoe-horned into topics that otherwise have nothing to do with her, or to have threads started for the sole purpose of keeping all this negativity going. It's also hard to believe none of this is seen as baiting her fans, which I believe IS against the rules.

Which brings me back to my main point. You have to be pretty tough to be a Stevie fan around here; any snowflakes have long since abandoned the Ledge. What I would like some of the non-SN fans to think about is how well they would tolerate this level of trash talk if it was directed at another band member. Do we seriously think the die-hard CM and LB fans (and we all know who they are) could put up with a daily barrage of attacks saying their favorite member should rot or burn?

[elle]

What I would like some of the non-SN fans to think about is how well they would tolerate this level of trash talk if it was directed at another band member. Do we seriously think the die-hard CM and LB fans (and we all know who they are) could put up with a daily barrage of attacks saying their favorite member should rot or burn?
:lol::lol:

if you are seriously interested in answers to your questions, all you have to do is look at the posts over the last 5-10 years on The Ledge.

[HomerMcvie]

Exactly. You are free to say whatever you want about any member. I personally couldn't care less. You're 100% free to have any opinion you want, regardless of my mindset on that opinion.

Vote the way you want. Feel the way you want. Express yourself the way you want. I couldn't care less! It's YOUR right to have your own beliefs, and you don't need our approval.

And visa versa. Have a good day!

[elle]

now rot or burn stuff is way over the top if thought through literally and i don't like it one bit, even if said in pun.

[jbrownsjr]

:lol::lol:

if you are seriously interested in answers to your questions, all you have to do is look at the posts over the last 5-10 years on The Ledge.

hahahaha... the beatings Lindsey has taken... some of them from me.

I personally don't want a worship type board.... I read all the opinions and most of you guys are funny as hell... lighten up folks.. it's music..

[dreamsunwind]

hahahaha... the beatings Lindsey has taken... some of them from me.

Ikr, he's certainly far from a saint but some of the things I've seen it's like if he breathes, someone cries "HIS EGO!!!". No doubt he's got one but honestly, and I love her to death, Stevie's has been bigger than his for like the past 20 years.

[dontlookdown]

I love being called a snowflake - especially when it's delivered from an uneducated / white trash Trump supporter.
But in this forum, with regard to Fleetwood Mac, or any other music -- I don't get it.
Fox News has seeped into all of our lives, unfortunately.

[SteveMacD]

Yeah, not a fan of political talking points on here, like "fake news" or "snowflakes" that have seeped into this board, or even "dick" which is wrong on all levels unless talking to a guy named Richard.

As for things said about band members, they're pros at being in the spotlight, which has its downside. If you think Stevie is taking a beating now, you should have seen what Stevie fans said about Bekka back in the "Time" days (i.e. THAT hussy).

Stevie made a big deal for years about how there couldn't be a new album because it didn't work without Christine, even offering her $5 million to come back (in the same way I'd offer Northwestern $5 million if they won the Big Ten in football), but was MIA in the studio when Christine actually came back. Stevie did this to herself.

[SisterNightroad]

And visa versa. Have a good day!
I don't mean to undermine you in every way but I'm a bit of a grammar nazi and I have to tell you that it's "vice versa".

[SteveMacD]

I don't mean to undermine you in every way but I'm a bit of a grammar nazi and I have to tell you that it's "vice versa".

PUBLIC NOTICE

[SisterNightroad]

Okay, it's too easy these days.
I can't fully understand the joke because of the cultural difference but it seems amusing, is it a reference to some middle class socio-political group?

[MoonSister75]

I like it. It was cute and interesting. She's funny.
I'm glad you liked it :)

Even if you don't like Stevie, I can't believe people don't find it tedious to have the same insults repeated over and over ad nauseam, or to have these comments shoe-horned into topics that otherwise have nothing to do with her, or to have threads started for the sole purpose of keeping all this negativity going. It's also hard to believe none of this is seen as baiting her fans, which I believe IS against the rules.



Yes this is the point I was trying to make yesterday. It's become a regular thing on here, there are inflammatory posts which seem only to have the intent of provoking other board members, resulting in arguments and upsetting people - the very definition of trolling - and the rules here clearly state "No trolling"

Exactly. You are free to say whatever you want about any member. I personally couldn't care less. You're 100% free to have any opinion you want, regardless of my mindset on that opinion.



But that isn't true. You can't post anything. If it's only posted with the intent of provoking or upsetting other fans, that is against the rules. You honestly believe you never do this? :confused:

[Jondalar]

I'm glad you liked it :)



Yes this is the point I was trying to make yesterday. It's become a regular thing on here, there are inflammatory posts which seem only to have the intent of provoking other board members, resulting in arguments and upsetting people - the very definition of trolling - and the rules here clearly state "No trolling"



But that isn't true. You can't post anything. If it's only posted with the intent of provoking or upsetting other fans, that is against the rules. You honestly believe you never do this? :confused:

I don't think people are trying to provoke. I think they are just mad at Stevie and are venting and you don't like it, so now you are trying to find ways to shut people up. You are provoked just because you don't agree with their opinions.

[MoonSister75]

I don't think people are trying to provoke. I think they are just mad at Stevie and are venting and you don't like it, so now you are trying to find ways to shut people up. You are provoked just because you don't agree with their opinions.

Whether people are trying to provoke is a grey area, as sisternightroad explained yesterday - but its one that deserves some discussion.

As I also stated clearly to you yesterday I'm not trying to shut anyone up. I'm just having my opinion, as anyone else on here. I don't understand why that is bothering you so much. I know you won't shut up and I won't either.

[Angel75]

I don't think people are trying to provoke. I think they are just mad at Stevie and are venting and you don't like it, so now you are trying to find ways to shut people up. You are provoked just because you don't agree with their opinions.

Calling someone a 'ho' is an opinion yes. I actually agree with that opinion that Stevie probably did sleep around a fair bit (from what we know as fact) particularly with taken or married men sadly. Now would I actually come out and write that on this board, no, because it's a nasty and horrible thing to say about someone, period.
Same for wishing a person would burn in hell....again it's your opinion, you are allowed one, but why say such a thing.
I don't get it, I live in a far away country where maybe we communicate more politely, maybe I am naive and assume people should really talk about others with kindness and respect and how they would like to be spoken about by other people. I don't understand what someone's underline motivation is to bait, troll and goad others.


Anyways, back on topic. I really wish Stevie would come back and create new music with FM. It is a shame. But I can't see it ever happening. I also wish we could find out the honest to truth reason why she doesn't want to....is it lack of creativity, it takes too long, because it won't sell, she can't bear time recording with Lindsey....what is the real truth or reason Stevie?

[Jondalar]

Whether people are trying to provoke is a grey area, as sisternightroad explained yesterday - but its one that deserves some discussion.

As I also stated clearly to you yesterday I'm not trying to shut anyone up. I'm just having my opinion, as anyone else on here. I don't understand why that is bothering you so much. I know you won't shut up and I won't either.

You are not trying to shut people up, just trying to point out evidence that people are breaking board rules? Right...

[MoonSister75]

You are not trying to shut people up, just trying to point out evidence that people are breaking board rules? Right...

:shocked: You're like a broken record :shrug: . I'll say it again....I'm not trying to shut anyone up. I'm just trying to clear up my understanding of comments that appear to go against the rules of this board.

I actually have a few days off and the time to respond on here. Usually I wouldn't be engaging with the arguments.
Ok, it's a lovely sunny day here, I'm going back to my gardening.

[sue]

:shocked: You're like a broken record :shrug: . I'll say it again....I'm not trying to shut anyone up. I'm just trying to clear up my understanding of comments that appear to go against the rules of this board.

I actually have a few days off and the time to respond on here. Usually I wouldn't be engaging with the arguments.
Ok, it's a lovely sunny day here, I'm going back to my gardening.

Gardening sounds a good idea....
GEneral Election in June.!!!!!!
MY dishwasher just went BANG.!!!!!

But Ken just played Buckingham Mcvie and the sun is out.
WHo gives a toss, enjoy the sun ..

[jbrownsjr]

Yeah, not a fan of political talking points on here, like "fake news" or "snowflakes" that have seeped into this board, or even "dick" which is wrong on all levels unless talking to a guy named Richard.

As for things said about band members, they're pros at being in the spotlight, which has its downside. If you think Stevie is taking a beating now, you should have seen what Stevie fans said about Bekka back in the "Time" days (i.e. THAT hussy).

Stevie made a big deal for years about how there couldn't be a new album because it didn't work without Christine, even offering her $5 million to come back (in the same way I'd offer Northwestern $5 million if they won the Big Ten in football), but was MIA in the studio when Christine actually came back. Stevie did this to herself.

Not to mention what shippers were saying about Lindsey's wife, Kristen.
These organic things go in cycles.

[HomerMcvie]

I don't mean to undermine you in every way but I'm a bit of a grammar nazi and I have to tell you that it's "vice versa".

I am as well, and actually don't recall ever using that term in writing. So my only excuse is that when spoken (at least around here) that it's pronounced "vis uh versa", not vise versa. But I may be surrounded by hillbillies...

[HomerMcvie]

You are not trying to shut people up, just trying to point out evidence that people are breaking board rules? Right...

Agreed. Everyone needs to stop being critical of Stevie, pointing out her flaws!

She is a goddess, and farts fairy dust! :lol:

If you can't handle an opinion other than your own(and that's my own personal definition of snowflake,btw),you should probably stay off the internets!

[jbrownsjr]

I am as well, and actually don't recall ever using that term in writing. So my only excuse is that when spoken (at least around here) that it's pronounced "vis uh versa", not vise versa. But I may be surrounded by hillbillies...

or goats.. :lol: hillbilly goats.

[HomerMcvie]

or goats.. :lol: hillbilly goats.

True. Except my show on 6/23 will be goat free! And there's nothing bah'd about that!

I'm so excited to see them. Did I mention I'm 4th row center? :woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo:

[jbrownsjr]

True. Except my show on 6/23 will be goat free! And there's nothing bah'd about that!

I'm so excited to see them. Did I mention I'm 4th row center? :woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo:

I'm going to send you to a night of 1000 Stevies... :shocked:

[HomerMcvie]

I'm going to send you to a night of 1000 Stevies... :shocked:

I'd rather have a night of 1000 root canals! :woohoo:

[jbrownsjr]

I'd rather have a night of 1000 root canals! :woohoo:

We would get lynched. :thumbsup::lol:

[HomerMcvie]

We would get lynched. :thumbsup::lol:

You got that right! But they probably can't run very fast I their platform boots! :lol:

[jbrownsjr]

You got that right! But they probably can't run very fast I their platform boots! :lol:

Only if it's summer. :cool:

[Nathan]

You got that right! But they probably can't run very fast I their platform boots! :lol:

It's posts like this that just stir the pot. And it's like you think they're funny. "Oh, she farts fairy dust lol." But it's not funny. It seems actually fairly unoriginal to me.

[HomerMcvie]

It's posts like this that just stir the pot. And it's like you think they're funny. "Oh, she farts fairy dust lol." But it's not funny. It seems actually fairly unoriginal to me.

Who asked you?

Have a nice day.

[jbrownsjr]

It's posts like this that just stir the pot. And it's like you think they're funny. "Oh, she farts fairy dust lol." But it's not funny. It seems actually fairly unoriginal to me.

Homer and I being chased by a Night of 1000 Stevies is hilarious.
Especially if it's summer in their boots, which they wear all summer long.

Original and funny. C'mon, you know you cracked a smile. :shrug:

[MoonSister75]

Agreed. Everyone needs to stop being critical of Stevie, pointing out her flaws!

She is a goddess, and farts fairy dust! :lol:

If you can't handle an opinion other than your own(and that's my own personal definition of snowflake,btw),you should probably stay off the internets!

So you've never posted anything that was only intended to provoke others? That's what I was asking.
It's all just good natured humour :confused:

I have no problem with almost every opinion on here, whether I agree with them on not, so your idea about me is completely incorrect.

I'm highlighting that there are occasional few comments that seem to step over the line of what is acceptable according to the rules of the board. It's actually nothing to do with Stevie, or not wanting to hear criticism of her. It's about this place being ok for everyone, not just you.

I have a feeling we're not going to come to any agreement here. I'm just using my freedom of speech on here, which I thought you would appreciate, given how much you value yours.

[SisterNightroad]

I am as well, and actually don't recall ever using that term in writing. So my only excuse is that when spoken (at least around here) that it's pronounced "vis uh versa", not vise versa. But I may be surrounded by hillbillies...
It actually makes sense that you don't know it because it's Latin, and as such the "ce" in "vice" is pronounced as the "che" in "cheddar".
Otherwise I wouldn't have pointed it out because I'm not a native english speaker and it doesn't feel right to me to correct a native speaker in his or her native language without checking first (but I have to say that I see a lot of native speakers that don't know the right use of the pronoun "its")

[HomerMcvie]

It actually makes sense that you don't know it because it's Latin, and as such the "ce" in "vice" is pronounced as the "che" in "cheddar".
Otherwise I wouldn't have pointed it out because I'm not a native english speaker and it doesn't feel right to me to correct a native speaker in his or her native language without checking first (but I have to say that I see a lot of native speakers that don't know the right use of the pronoun "its")
And I sometimes will employ a synonym, if I'm uncertain of proper spelling, and spell check can't find the proper one.

[TrueFaith77]

And I sometimes will employ a synonym, if I'm uncertain of proper spelling, and spell check can't find the proper one.

Wow :eek: :lol:

[SisterNightroad]

And I sometimes will employ a synonym, if I'm uncertain of proper spelling, and spell check can't find the proper one.
Exactly!

https://s16.postimg.org/852r8vbud/Screenshot_2017-04-18_18.53.31.png

Well, now you have one more vocabulary anecdote to impress chicks with!

[gypsy333]

It's posts like this that just stir the pot. And it's like you think they're funny. "Oh, she farts fairy dust lol." But it's not funny. It seems actually fairly unoriginal to me.

YEP... and it is always from the same three Stevie Bashers....LOL...who think that Chris and LB are both the RISEN CHRIST...which is HILARIOUS!
they can bash and name call all they want...the reality is that Stevie is filling up arenas without them...and they JUST CAN'T STAND IT:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::blob1:

[jbrownsjr]

YEP... and it is always from the same three Stevie Bashers....LOL...who think that Chris and LB are both the RISEN CHRIST...which is HILARIOUS!
they can bash and name call all they want...the reality is that Stevie is filling up arenas without them...and they JUST CAN'T STAND IT:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::blob1:

The masses have always had rather poor taste, darling. ;)

And only Christine rises.. Lindsey sort of floats around.

[HomerMcvie]

The masses have always had rather poor taste, darling. ;)

And only Christine rises.. Lindsey sort of floats around.

I love you!

[SisterNightroad]

I watched a great TED talk the other day on highly sensitive people - for anyone interested https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pi4JOlMSWjo

It kind of turns the whole derogatory, overly sensitive snowflake thing, on its head.

Thanks for this! I can't wait to watch.

I like it. It was cute and interesting. She's funny.
For those who are interested, this site is about different personality types (focusing on the Introverted ones) and highly sensitive people and I sometimes enjoy reading its articles: https://introvertdear.com/

[jbrownsjr]

I love you!

Why? My make up is dark and it's careless.

[button-lip]

The masses have always had rather poor taste, darling. ;)

And only Christine rises.. Lindsey sort of floats around.

Especially when maybe 30 percent of those masses are American Horror Story teen fans. :lol:

[jbrownsjr]

Especially when maybe 30 percent of those masses are American Horror Story teen fans. :lol:

I was embarrassed for her.

[24karatstevie]

I was embarrassed for her.
I don't mean this in a negative way, but what is so embarrassing about Stevie having young fans? I'm 19 but I didn't start listening to Fleetwood Mac because of American Horror Story. I think it's a great show though. Anyway, I can't see why a show using music from a legendary artist is a bad thing. I think it's great that so many people now love and support Stevie and the Mac since they were exposed to such good music in the show.

[MikeInNV]

I don't mean this in a negative way, but what is so embarrassing about Stevie having young fans? I'm 19 but I didn't start listening to Fleetwood Mac because of American Horror Story. I think it's a great show though. Anyway, I can't see why a show using music from a legendary artist is a bad thing. I think it's great that so many people now love and support Stevie and the Mac since they were exposed to such good music in the show.

I think the effect of the show is being a bit overblown. I didn't see too many teen AHS fans at any of the shows I went to, whether FM or Stevie solo. It was nice to have 7W back in the set for a short while, but I think that meant more to the older fans than the newer ones.

[jbrownsjr]

I don't mean this in a negative way, but what is so embarrassing about Stevie having young fans? I'm 19 but I didn't start listening to Fleetwood Mac because of American Horror Story. I think it's a great show though. Anyway, I can't see why a show using music from a legendary artist is a bad thing. I think it's great that so many people now love and support Stevie and the Mac since they were exposed to such good music in the show.

Honest answer, I think she looks and sounds absolutely ridiculous at the piano. And then to see her act in a show about witches.... I rolled my eyes so far into the back of my head they got stuck there for weeks.. She just looked ridiculous, imo.

[24karatstevie]

Honest answer, I think she looks and sounds absolutely ridiculous at the piano. And then to see her act in a show about witches.... I rolled my eyes so far into the back of my head they got stuck there for weeks.. She just looked ridiculous, imo.
Understandable. I happen to love witchy things so it worked for me haha. :lol:

[SisterNightroad]

Honest answer, I think she looks and sounds absolutely ridiculous at the piano. And then to see her act in a show about witches.... I rolled my eyes so far into the back of my head they got stuck there for weeks.. She just looked ridiculous, imo.
That whole season was meant to be kitschy and cheesy, but at the time it was a good idea after the heavier and darker atmosphere of the previous seasons.
It's one of those things that is fun while you are watching it but after it ends it's not that good anymore.

However I still think that the audience of AHS isn't constituted by many teens, I think the range it's from young adults onwards. Probably most teens started after the arrive of Lady Gaga.

[jbrownsjr]

Understandable. I happen to love witchy things so it worked for me haha. :lol:

I do like her having young fans. I'm still a Stevie fan. Her early solo work moves me in ways many artists can't.

It's the current day Stevie that for some reason leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Having said that, I'm glad she's touring and having success. It's still art and her set list is pretty damn good.

[jbrownsjr]

That whole season was meant to be kitschy and cheesy, but at the time it was a good idea after the heavier and darker atmosphere of the previous seasons.
It's one of those things that is fun while you are watching it but after it ends it's not that good anymore.

However I still think that the audience of AHS isn't constituted by many teens, I think the range it's from young adults onwards. Probably most teens started after the arrive of Lady Gaga.

I like the show. It's been getting worse as the seasons go on.

The first season was awesome. I did like the witches season. But, I have my opinions about her appearance. oy

[SisterNightroad]

I like the show. It's been getting worse as the seasons go on.

The first season was awesome. I did like the witches season. But, I have my opinions about her appearance. oy
Oh, it's almost the same for me, my favourite season was the first one with the second one very close but from then onwards the quality dimished, with the exception that I loved the last season.

[jbrownsjr]

Oh, it's almost the same for me, my favourite season was the first one with the second one very close but from then onwards the quality dimished, with the exception that I loved the last season.

I thought Lady Gaga was a great actress for what they asked her to do. But the Hotel season seemed predictable.

[SisterNightroad]

I thought Lady Gaga was a great actress for what they asked her to do. But the Hotel season seemed predictable.
I hated Hotel, the 10 commandments killer storyline was the most predictable plot twist I've ever seen. Lady Gaga was a good mannequin. The only things I save from that is Denis O'Hare, his character truly was the backbone of the entire season, Evan Peters' performance and the naked butts of all the male actors.
Roanoke instead was welcomed change, I think it became my third favourite season.

[lulu28]

I don't mean this in a negative way, but what is so embarrassing about Stevie having young fans? I'm 19 but I didn't start listening to Fleetwood Mac because of American Horror Story. I think it's a great show though. Anyway, I can't see why a show using music from a legendary artist is a bad thing. I think it's great that so many people now love and support Stevie and the Mac since they were exposed to such good music in the show.

There's absolutely nothing embarrassing about it. You have to understand that a few of the Stevie haters are grasping at any and every thing that they can to disrespect her. It's sort of like a bunch of gnats. You swat and swat at them but they never go away because they have no life outside of pestering you. The funny thing is that I was at three of Stevie's concerts for this tour and I didn't see 30% of any one age group. It was a wonderful mix of young, old and those of us in between. Personally, I would like to see Lindsey and Chris try to bring in some younger fans too. It's what keeps the music alive, after all. I have a twelve year old daughter and she loves Fleetwood Mac.....or Stevie and those other people, as she calls them!!!! As for American Horror Story, we've watched each and every season and love them all.

[lulu28]

YEP... and it is always from the same three Stevie Bashers....LOL...who think that Chris and LB are both the RISEN CHRIST...which is HILARIOUS!
they can bash and name call all they want...the reality is that Stevie is filling up arenas without them...and they JUST CAN'T STAND IT:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::blob1:

Truth!!!!! LMAO!!!

[jbrownsjr]

I hated Hotel, the 10 commandments killer storyline was the most predictable plot twist I've ever seen. Lady Gaga was a good mannequin. The only things I save from that is Denis O'Hare, his character truly was the backbone of the entire season, Evan Peters' performance and the naked butts of all the male actors.
Roanoke instead was welcomed change, I think it became my third favourite season.

They love to show butts. :lol:

[SisterNightroad]

They love to show butts. :lol:
May God bless them for this.

[jbrownsjr]

May God bless them for this.

I have to agree. Especially season 1. mmmmmmmm

[SisterNightroad]

I have to agree. Especially season 1. mmmmmmmm
I was thinking about Dylan McDermott too. God if you think he was fifty at the time, no wonder Evan Peters said it made him feel self-conscious.

[jbrownsjr]

I was thinking about Dylan McDermott too. God if you think he was fifty at the time, no wonder Evan Peters said it made him feel self-conscious.

Yes!!! You and I agree on a lot more than we think. lol

Let's start a hot butt website. (I'm sure it's been done) :woohoo:

[SisterNightroad]

Yes!!! You and I agree on a lot more than we think. lol

Let's start a hot butt website. (I'm sure it's been done) :woohoo:
Ah ah, there used to be a blog about AHS' butts, if I can find it again I'll send you the link.

[jbrownsjr]

Ah ah, there used to be a blog about AHS' butts, if I can find it again I'll send you the link.

yaaaaaaaasssssss All the butts!!!

[SisterNightroad]

yaaaaaaaasssssss All the butts!!!
http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/dd/ddbc054675cc49a2ea16edc646323daec71048a585fdf613063f76016645d09f.jpg

[24karatstevie]

yaaaaaaaasssssss All the butts!!!
Haha you guys are obsessed! Personally, I got tired of the endless butt shots in AHS (give me more of the horror), but whatever floats your boat. :lol:

[SisterNightroad]

Haha you guys are obsessed! Personally, I got tired of the endless butt shots in AHS (give me more of the horror), but whatever floats your boat. :lol:
Oh, I am for the plot too, in fact I can't stand most of the american slasher movies, but if there happens to be some "plot" instead I don't mind (especially since it's rare to see the male kind).

[jbrownsjr]

Haha you guys are obsessed! Personally, I got tired of the endless butt shots in AHS (give me more of the horror), but whatever floats your boat. :lol:

My boyfriend will pause it on the butts. :lol:

But like Sister (Giulia), I love the plot more than anything.

[24karatstevie]

My boyfriend will pause it on the butts. :lol:

But like Sister (Giulia), I love the plot more than anything.
I love the plot too. It's a very interesting show. I loved season 2, 1, and 3 as well. Freakshow was ok, but I couldn't stand hotel. Roanoke was a masterpiece compared to Hotel imo. It was different, and I liked that.

[wheart]

I love the plot too. It's a very interesting show. I loved season 2, 1, and 3 as well. Freakshow was ok, but I couldn't stand hotel. Roanoke was a masterpiece compared to Hotel imo. It was different, and I liked that.

Interesting. I loved Hotel. Funny but Coven was my least favorite of all of them...even with La Nicks showing up. It just went on way too long. You know, like Stevie's stories. :p

[ViscountViktor]

Did someone says butts? :blob1:

[SisterNightroad]

Did someone says butts? :blob1:
https://cdn.meme.am/cache/instances/folder732/73554732.jpg

[TrueFaith77]

I glad this got moved to Chit Chat. Also glad it is ending up on a topic about which all can agree.

It's not AHS, but it rhymes with ahs.