Everybody Finds Out

[BLY]

EBFO has always been one of my favorite tracks from SYW. I always thought it would have been a good fit on Tango. After playing Tango a lot after getting the deluxe set.......confirmed again this would have been one heck of a rocker for Stevie on TITN.

[jbrownsjr]

EBFO has always been one of my favorite tracks from SYW. I always thought it would have been a good fit on Tango. After playing Tango a lot after getting the deluxe set.......confirmed again this would have been one heck of a rocker for Stevie on TITN.

This would have been perfect on TITN. I like this song a lot.

[Macfan4life]

The song is amazing. If you search you will find a long thread about this song. Its so explosive and builds and builds. It should have been the single from Say You Will.

On Tango? NO WAY! Its perfect so why mess with a perfect song. Lindsey would have added computer beats and over produced it to death. The Tango productions would have killed the song.

[BLY]

The song is amazing. If you search you will find a long thread about this song. Its so explosive and builds and builds. It should have been the single from Say You Will.

On Tango? NO WAY! Its perfect so why mess with a perfect song. Lindsey would have added computer beats and over produced it to death. The Tango productions would have killed the song.



Missing my point my friend. It would have fit on Tango as is. IMO.

[24karatstevie]

Yes I love EFO! John's bassline is so awesome on this song.

[jbrownsjr]

Missing my point my friend. It would have fit on Tango as is. IMO.

If you close your eyes and listen I could go between Caroline and TINTN

[StevieandChris]

Love this song. Does anyone know when she wrote --- if it was written specific let for SYW?

[Macfan4life]

Missing my point my friend. It would have fit on Tango as is. IMO.
I got your point but it makes no sense because it was recorded way after the 80's synth pop. Lets put Sleeping Angel and Running Through the Garden on Tango too.
You could say that about any song then.

[aleuzzi]

Missing my point my friend. It would have fit on Tango as is. IMO.

As it sounds on SYW--yes. It would have been an ideal fit for Tango.

EFO sounds like a more attractive cousin than I Can't Wait (also a collaboration with Rick Knowles). I don't think Stevie's voice could have handled it in 1987, but damn, she knocks it out of the park in 2003.

For what it's worth, I think the version of Planets from TISL would also have sounded cool on Tango.

[lilyfee]

EBFO has always been one of my favorite tracks from SYW. I always thought it would have been a good fit on Tango. After playing Tango a lot after getting the deluxe set.......confirmed again this would have been one heck of a rocker for Stevie on TITN.

I hear this song every once in a while and I think it would be a heck of a rocker for her NOW.:nod: Especially the climax of the song is so intense.. Would love to hear it live!

[24karatstevie]

I hear this song every once in a while and I think it would be a heck of a rocker for her NOW.:nod: Especially the climax of the song is so intense.. Would love to hear it live!
I agree. It would be a great addition to a tour setlist. A nice surprise as well. I think they should do this and Thrown Down on an upcoming tour.

[jmn3]

Love this song...it's my favorite off SYW! They absolutely should have worked it out for the stage in 2003/04 (believe there's footage of them rehearsing it on Destiny Rules).

[24karatstevie]

Love this song. Does anyone know when she wrote --- if it was written specific let for SYW?
I would love to know this too. Also what are everyone's thoughts on what it is about?

[dreamsunwind]

I would love to know this too. Also what are everyone's thoughts on what it is about?

I think she said this was inspired by the Clinton/Lewinsky scandal. So I'd guess it was written around then or shortly after and maybe tried for TISL but ultimately ended up on SYW.

[bombaysaffires]

I would love to know this too. Also what are everyone's thoughts on what it is about?

All of Stevie's clandestine relationships....

"she gets on a midnight plane, she's done it a thousand times" reminds me of her stories of the Lear jets Henley would send to pick her up (the little cranberry colored jet...etc. She has in fact done it a thousand times :eek:)

"When love starts out in the darkness..." Again, relationships kept secret.... Mick, Dallas Taylor, Tom, etc etc...

"she spends every day, waiting for the day, when everybody finds out" all those secret affairs that won't make people (wives, girlfriends, whoever) happy.

you get the idea. :shrug:

[24karatstevie]

I think she said this was inspired by the Clinton/Lewinsky scandal. So I'd guess it was written around then or shortly after and maybe tried for TISL but ultimately ended up on SYW.
I've heard that before. It would make sense if that was the time period it was written.

[dreamsunwind]

All of Stevie's clandestine relationships....


"When love starts out in the darkness..." Again, relationships kept secret.... Mick, Dallas Taylor, Tom, etc etc...

Tom Petty?

If that's who you meant, am I the only one who thinks they never really had a relationship? I think they might've been flirty sometimes but I don't think it ever turned into anything or anything serious happened. Maybe I just want to believe there was someone she didn't sleep with.

And the Dallas Taylor relationship was all kinds of wrong. It freaked me out a little when she was talking about it like this grand romantic thing. I'm pretty sure it's something you can get fired for.

[24karatstevie]

All of Stevie's clandestine relationships....

"she gets on a midnight plane, she's done it a thousand times" reminds me of her stories of the Lear jets Henley would send to pick her up (the little cranberry colored jet...etc. She has in fact done it a thousand times :eek:)

"When love starts out in the darkness..." Again, relationships kept secret.... Mick, Dallas Taylor, Tom, etc etc...

"she spends every day, waiting for the day, when everybody finds out" all those secret affairs that won't make people (wives, girlfriends, whoever) happy.

you get the idea. :shrug:
Mick is the first thought I had the first time I heard this song especially with the line, "affairs of the heart that start out in the dark, usually stay with the night". However, as with many of Stevie's songs, I think it's about multiple things.

[michelej1]

I'd love to see it in the setlist. I think it's a great dance number. Most of the audience won't know it, but it's less likely to make them rush for the concession stand than an unknown ballad is.

Michele

[ryan4136]

I was always under the impression that this song was largely targeting Kristen. Was this song written before 99? I thought the "affairs in the dark" part referenced Kristen getting pregnant. That LB doesn't really love Kristen but Stevie, but he's stuck because of the kids. The second verse is targeted more at LB.
Overall basically a he doesn't really love you the way he loved me, and pssss...he still does that sure gotta piss you off.

I could be way off, but when you look at it through that lenses it's a pretty cutting song.

[HomerMcvie]

Dear god.....

[gldstwmn]

I would love to know this too. Also what are everyone's thoughts on what it is about?

The working title was Monica. She calls it that in the Destiny Rules doc.

[jbrownsjr]

Dear god.....

what???? her ego? :lol:

[HomerMcvie]

what???? her ego? :lol:

The previous post.

[TrueFaith77]

Dear god.....

Stevie songs about real people are always really about Stevie, about the parallels she finds between them and her own life.

[jbrownsjr]

The previous post.

I know.. I was shaking my head, too. Leave the man alone already!

[HomerMcvie]

I know.. I was shaking my head, too. Leave the man alone already!

But they're still in LOVE!!!!:lol::lol::lol:

[jbrownsjr]

But they're still in LOVE!!!!:lol::lol::lol:

I will always love my ex, but I don't want to be anywhere near him most of the time. And I'm not at all, 'in love' with him.

.......And, I applaud any man that would come after me. It's a lot of work dating him.

[michelej1]

But they're still in LOVE!!!!:lol::lol::lol:

Oh. anywhere we can baby, any time we can get away ... I think that line was taunting Kristen too. I don't think there's anything going on with them now and hardly feel they're still "in love", but I think there was something in 1997 and that a slew of songs emerged from it.

Michele

[button-lip]

Oh. anywhere we can baby, any time we can get away ... I think that line was taunting Kristen too. I don't think there's anything going on with them now and hardly feel they're still "in love", but I think there was something in 1997 and that a slew of songs emerged from it.

Michele

Please,the cynical side in me say they can't even be in the same room together now!

The man had been married for almost 20 years. Give him some credit!

To analyze Stevie's lyrics is useless. I think sometimes she doesn't even know who's the owner of each of her songs.

But I also think something happened in 1997... and then he got married! :shocked::lol:

[bombaysaffires]

Tom Petty?

If that's who you meant, am I the only one who thinks they never really had a relationship? I think they might've been flirty sometimes but I don't think it ever turned into anything or anything serious happened. Maybe I just want to believe there was someone she didn't sleep with.

And the Dallas Taylor relationship was all kinds of wrong. It freaked me out a little when she was talking about it like this grand romantic thing. I'm pretty sure it's something you can get fired for.

no idea if she and Tom actually hooked up or not; neither has ever copped to it. But nothing, NOTHING, would surprise me. My comment was a bit tongue in cheek.

"you can't have him, I *do* have him, most of the time"

I always found this song slightly amusing given that she's said in interviews how she won't ever compete for a man..... this song sounds pretty damned competitive to me, especially that line. :eek:

[FuzzyPlum]

I always found this song slightly amusing given that she's said in interviews how she won't ever compete for a man..... this song sounds pretty damned competitive to me, especially that line. :eek:


I was under the impression this song was originally inspired by Monica Lewinski

[button-lip]

Maybe I just want to believe there was someone she didn't sleep with.


:lol: :lol: Don't we all? :lol::lol:

[HomerMcvie]

:lol: :lol: Won't we all? :lol::lol:

Mama probably owned stock in a penicillin manufacturer, by the time she was done with So. Cal!

[button-lip]

Mama probably owned stock in a penicillin manufacturer, by the time she was done with So. Cal!

Don't judge her! As a songwriter, she needed all the bed experiences she could get. :lol::lol:

[dreamsunwind]

I'm not saying there's anything wrong with it and I don't think slut shaming is cute. Mick and Lindsey didn't exactly keep their legs shut either. Never Going Back Again is basically about a hook up.

[jbrownsjr]

I'm not saying there's anything wrong with it and I don't think slut shaming is cute. Mick and Lindsey didn't exactly keep their legs shut either. Never Going Back Again is basically about a hook up.

I don't mind slut shaming as long at it's equal for men and women...

And believe me, both Mick and John are not innocent. Neither is Christine.

[dreamsunwind]

I don't mind slut shaming as long at it's equal for men and women...

And believe me, both Mick and John are not innocent. Neither is Christine.

I agree, I just feel like sometimes a certain tone is taken when talking about women, particularly Stevie. I do get though she had quite a colorful relationship history, I even joke about it sometimes.

[24karatstevie]

This thread has caused me to listen to this song on constant repeat the past couple of days. I can't help but love it, regardless of what it is about. It's such a jam!

[jbrownsjr]

This thread has caused me to listen to this song on constant repeat the past couple of days. I can't help but love it, regardless of what it is about. It's such a jam!

Funny you mention that. I just played it twice.

[24karatstevie]

Funny you mention that. I just played it twice.
Haha I've played it much more than that today alone! When I first heard the Say You Will album, I always overlooked it. Now, it's steadily becoming my favorite!

[Angel75]

I don't mind slut shaming as long at it's equal for men and women...

And believe me, both Mick and John are not innocent. Neither is Christine.

After the three boys liaisons with "Sweet Connie" I would say they are definitely not innocent!

[bombaysaffires]

After the three boys liaisons with "Sweet Connie" I would say they are definitely not innocent!

Indeed :distress:

And who knows all the groupies on the road......

[dreamsunwind]

After the three boys liaisons with "Sweet Connie" I would say they are definitely not innocent!

Especially when she said Lindsey flew her out for it. It's not like she was just there, he actually had her flown out.

[CarnivalBegin]

I was always under the impression that this song was largely targeting Kristen. Was this song written before 99? I thought the "affairs in the dark" part referenced Kristen getting pregnant. That LB doesn't really love Kristen but Stevie, but he's stuck because of the kids. The second verse is targeted more at LB.
Overall basically a he doesn't really love you the way he loved me, and pssss...he still does that sure gotta piss you off.

I could be way off, but when you look at it through that lenses it's a pretty cutting song.

I believe somebody already said : Dear God ... indeed : DEAR GOD!

[Angel75]

Especially when she said Lindsey flew her out for it. It's not like she was just there, he actually had her flown out.

I didn't realise that was the case, that he had her flown out specially. EEEEwwww

[button-lip]

Especially when she said Lindsey flew her out for it. It's not like she was just there, he actually had her flown out.

Well, she could have said the boys did many things for her. That doesn't necessarily make them true.

[dreamsunwind]

Well, she could have said the boys did many things for her. That doesn't necessarily make them true.

She also said Mick had a dependency problem that made him have some trouble with the act and I don't have a hard time believing that at all and I don't think she would need to make anything up about any of the dozens of famous musicians she 'spent time with'. So I don't doubt any of it is true just as I don't doubt that Stevie had plenty of her own fun as well.

[lilyfee]

Can someone direct me to where Stevie says this song was inspired by Monica Lewinsky?

I always thought the song was about Stevie's relationship with Mick, how she refers to it now as all kinds of wrong, a secret affair that started out because of their lifestyle, etc. but at the same time she was super possessive of him and devastated when he moved on. That, or a torrid affair with Lindsey during The Dance.:p I interpreted the "she gets on a midnight plane, she's done it a thousand times" line as simply a reference to Stevie's lifestyle with her band mates, as in flying to the next tour stop after a show.

[FuzzyPlum]

Can someone direct me to where Stevie says this song was inspired by Monica Lewinsky?

I always thought the song was about Stevie's relationship with Mick, how she refers to it now as all kinds of wrong, a secret affair that started out because of their lifestyle, etc. but at the same time she was super possessive of him and devastated when he moved on. That, or a torrid affair with Lindsey during The Dance.:p I interpreted the "she gets on a midnight plane, she's done it a thousand times" line as simply a reference to Stevie's lifestyle with her band mates, as in flying to the next tour stop after a show.

I'm sure its inspired by an amalgam of different sources. I think it was written in the late 1990's and was originally titled 'Monica'. Stevie referred to the song as Monica in Destiny Rules.