Hoping for a BuckVie/McBuck Single

[jbrownsjr]

Think we will get a teaser or two? Or maybe clips.

I actually hate clips because I listen to them so much that I wear it out.
Singles can be misleading. I heard Hold Me and thought, "Wow, the whole album is going to sound like that!!" uhhhh no it WILL NOT!! LOL

I thought the Tusk song was going to be a Fleetwood Mac in the jungle sound.. Wrong!

Big Love was an awesome rep for Tango. I, unlike some of you other ingrates, love Tango in the Night! Even whaaaasta matta babbbbbbbbby baaaaaaaaabbbby.. and the dream says I WANT YOU!!!

Trouble definitely misled me on Law And Order. Stand Back was great for Wild Heart... You Are was awesome for In The Meantime...

Any other thoughts diving back to your personal memories??

[Macfan4life]

I am sure we will get a single soon. I thought Friend was the single from In the Meantime, not You Are.
Stand Back was a HUGE single for Wild Heart. It was a mainstay on rock and pop stations. Plus the video on MTV was HUGE.
My memory would point to when the internet got big and they pre-sold Stevie's 2001 Trouble in Shangri-La album online. You would purchase the downloads. This was before I pods even. You could stream the album before it came out in April 2001. This was considered very modern technology and helped launch the album at #5 on Billboard. It was a great time and in the clubs of South Beach the dance version of Planets was #1. It was a great time that summer before the world changed forever in a few months.

[FuzzyPlum]

Save Me sucked. So did the album. that one wasn't misleading.
I'm a bit frustrated they aren't dong more to promote the TITN reissue at the moment. It's out in a couple of days and yet there's been very little from the band. I'm sure they did more for the other releases. I hope its because Chris and Lindsey are busily overseeing a video for a single release and putting the finishing touches to their show.

[SisterNightroad]

Save Me sucked. So did the album. that one wasn't misleading.
I'm a bit frustrated they aren't dong more to promote the TITN reissue at the moment. It's out in a couple of days and yet there's been very little from the band. I'm sure they did more for the other releases. I hope its because Chris and Lindsey are busily overseeing a video for a single release and putting the finishing touches to their show.
If I remember well the only thing they did for the Mirage reissue was having Christine mentioning it in an interview, and she even sort of joked about it. They've never known how to promote projects that concerns them.

[Macfan4life]

Save Me sucked. So did the album. that one wasn't misleading.
I'm a bit frustrated they aren't dong more to promote the TITN reissue at the moment. It's out in a couple of days and yet there's been very little from the band. I'm sure they did more for the other releases. I hope its because Chris and Lindsey are busily overseeing a video for a single release and putting the finishing touches to their show.
I found Save Me such a refreshing sound compared to Tango. They sounded like a band again. Everyone playing and singing back up, etc. Love when you hear Christine playing keyboards ;)

[FuzzyPlum]

If I remember well the only thing they did for the Mirage reissue was having Christine mentioning it in an interview, and she even sort of joked about it. They've never known how to promote projects that concerns them.

From what I remember she specifically gave the interview to support mirage- it was more than just giving it a mention. I'm sure mick did a bit of promo too (could be wrong). You're right though, they aren't good at it.

[HomerMcvie]

I found Save Me such a refreshing sound compared to Tango. They sounded like a band again. Everyone playing and singing back up, etc. Love when you hear Christine playing keyboards ;)

Agreed! Tango is how you take production too far. It doesn't even sound like a band! It sounds like a studio wizard who's out of touch.

BTM isn't a favorite of mine, but most of the songs still hold up okay...

[SisterNightroad]

From what I remember she specifically gave the interview to support mirage- it was more than just giving it a mention. I'm sure mick did a bit of promo too (could be wrong). You're right though, they aren't good at it.
No, I've searched, she did two interviews. One specifically for Mirage for Rolling Stone and another in which they just briefly touched the subject and then they talked about future plans. She didn't even really know what was in the reissue, I guess this meant Mirage is still her least favorite album of theirs.

[dreamsunwind]

I found Save Me such a refreshing sound compared to Tango. They sounded like a band again. Everyone playing and singing back up, etc. Love when you hear Christine playing keyboards ;)

Maybe they sound more fuller like a band but that doesn't mean it's good imo that entire album isn't good and it sounds weird, I listened to it once and had no desire to ever listen to it/any of the songs again.

[bwboy]

There is an interview on this board with Stevie talking about the Tango rerelease. It's the one where she mentioned being uncomfortable recording in Lindsey's bedroom.

Remember, the album was delayed so some of the interviews were released back when the album was originally supposed to come out, back in February.

[elle]

Think we will get a teaser or two? Or maybe clips.

I actually hate clips because I listen to them so much that I wear it out.
Singles can be misleading. I heard Hold Me and thought, "Wow, the whole album is going to sound like that!!" uhhhh no it WILL NOT!! LOL

I thought the Tusk song was going to be a Fleetwood Mac in the jungle sound.. Wrong!

Big Love was an awesome rep for Tango. I, unlike some of you other ingrates, love Tango in the Night! Even whaaaasta matta babbbbbbbbby baaaaaaaaabbbby.. and the dream says I WANT YOU!!!

Trouble definitely misled me on Law And Order. Stand Back was great for Wild Heart... You Are was awesome for In The Meantime...

Any other thoughts diving back to your personal memories??

for Seeds, Lindsey made In Our Own Time available for free streaming, and also Seeds the song for a free download before the album came out. i thought In Our Own Time was a nice preview of the album.

of course, we did already have a good idea of the songs on the album way before that since he did live recording of the Songs from the Small Machine in LA in april (and the "singles' came out some time in august i think, album was out in september), and our own Pattie shared her live recordings of the 6 new songs he did in LA in april.

[secondhandchain]

Agreed! Tango is how you take production too far. It doesn't even sound like a band! It sounds like a studio wizard who's out of touch.

BTM isn't a favorite of mine, but most of the songs still hold up okay...

The song Behind the Mask was rumours lineup level great. I loved that song. The rest of the album was good, but to sugary.

[Fannymac]

The song Behind the Mask was rumours lineup level great. I loved that song. The rest of the album was good, but to sugary.

Agreed....the problem wasn't the band or the songs (though I've always felt "Save Me" was a bad choice for the lead-off single!), it was the production....Greg Leydani was just too safe and slick. I really wish they had gone with Scott Litt as originally planned.

[aleuzzi]

Save Me sucked. So did the album. that one wasn't misleading.

I really dig the basic track for Save Me and Christine's voice is great on it. I don't like the touches. The generic music vamp in the middle, the impressively played but unoriginal guitar solo, the synthesizer...

Still, I was and am impressed with how healthy and strong Christine sounded on it. But beyond this song and the album title track, BTM is THE least inspired FM record I've ever heard. So glossy, so inflated, so lacking in honest energy and substance.

[aleuzzi]

Agreed....the problem wasn't the band or the songs (though I've always felt "Save Me" was a bad choice for the lead-off single!), it was the production....Greg Leydani was just too safe and slick. I really wish they had gone with Scott Litt as originally planned.

Whoever produced "Love Shines" and "Heart of Stone" should have done BTM and Time.

[bwboy]

Patrick Leonard produced those songs, and Mick Fleetwood said he was very expensive! Leonard produced a lot of Madonna's stuff from True Blue and Like a Prayer.

[bwboy]

Agreed....the problem wasn't the band or the songs (though I've always felt "Save Me" was a bad choice for the lead-off single!), it was the production....Greg Leydani was just too safe and slick. I really wish they had gone with Scott Litt as originally planned.

Fannymac, I would love to hear more about this, maybe on the 'post rumours' board, since this is veering from the original thread. Any chance you could go into more detail there? For example, who is Scott Litt? And what song do you think would have been a better lead single?

Thanks.

[elle]

They've never known how to promote projects that concerns them.
yes. they (Fleetwood Mac and most of the individual members) are horrible at promotion. whether they hire incompetent staff, or Warners stifle them, or whatever the problem is.... besides their practically non-existent social media (other than Mick somewhat), all their other promotion-related activities are in pretty sad state.

if the album is supposed to come out on Warners, where is presale info? as mentioned in the other thread, artists releasing albums week after BuckMcVie already have their web pages up with pre-order and streaming links, so where is that for BuckVie?? probably will never even materialize.

of all the macsters, the only one that has ok promotional activities is Nicks solo. all the rest of them, including the band as a whole, are really really horrible, and i guess must not really care.

it's certainly frustrating for fans. for one, yes i'm happy that it's now obvious that the album will be coming out and that there will be a small [15 date?] tour, but i want the rest of those tour dates, asap!!

[jbrownsjr]

Whoever produced "Love Shines" and "Heart of Stone" should have done BTM and Time.

Love the production on Love Shines!

[SteveMacD]

Whoever produced "Love Shines" and "Heart of Stone" should have done BTM and Time.

Most of "Time" was done by Richard Dashut. Kind of hard to argue his merit, other than it seems that he was thoroughly burned out during it.

I'm surprised they didn't ask Ken to do BTM.

[jbrownsjr]

Most of "Time" was done by Richard Dashut. Kind of hard to argue his merit, other than it seems that he was thoroughly burned out during it.

I'm surprised they didn't ask Ken to do BTM.

When I asked him why he didn't do Tango, he said he couldn't take it anymore. The fighting was so bad.

[SteveMacD]

When I asked him why he didn't do Tango, he said he couldn't take it anymore. The fighting was so bad.

Without Lindsey there, though, it seems like the tensions/fighting was mostly gone.

[dreamsunwind]

When I asked him why he didn't do Tango, he said he couldn't take it anymore. The fighting was so bad.

I read a Ken interview where he said he stopped working with them after Mirage just because he moved on, he didn't say it was really because of anything.

Fighting wasn't even really the problem with Tango anyways, it was that everyone was a mess.

[jbrownsjr]

I read a Ken interview where he said he stopped working with them after Mirage just because he moved on, he didn't say it was really because of anything.

Fighting wasn't even really the problem with Tango anyways, it was that everyone was a mess.

I went to his book signing and asked him privately. He said that a certain member would constantly threaten to leave if he/she didn't get his/her way.

I'm sure there wasn't a lot of fighting on BTM, but I think he'd moved on in life and wanted to produce other projects.

[dreamsunwind]

I went to his book signing and asked him privately. He said that a certain member would constantly threaten to leave if he/she didn't get his/her way.

I'm sure there wasn't a lot of fighting on BTM, but I think he'd moved on in life and wanted to produce other projects.

Oh yeah I read he said once when he was talking about how Lindsey did that with Tusk that Stevie did the same thing later.

Richard I think it was I read he said he hated either BTM or Time, he said there was actually a lot of issues and he had a lot of conflict on it.

[elle]

Oh yeah I read he said once when he was talking about how Lindsey did that with Tusk that Stevie did the same thing later.

Richard I think it was I read he said he hated either BTM or Time, he said there was actually a lot of issues and he had a lot of conflict on it.

yeah Richard said he had a lot of issues with Dave Mason.

[dreamsunwind]

yeah Richard said he had a lot of issues with Dave Mason.

Oh yeah it was Time then, he wasn't even on BTM tho I wonder why. For some reason I don't think things were totally peachy then either, even if there was less fighting things are never easy with FM plus Stevie was knocked out on tranquilizers which probably made her interesting to work with.

[SteveMacD]

Oh yeah it was Time then, he wasn't even on BTM tho I wonder why.
He was working with Lindsey on OOTC.

[LB Freakazoid]

Well, buckinghammcvie.com is registered - as of last october... The page is under construction

[HomerMcvie]

Love the production on Love Shines!

Love Shines makes every greatest hits I do. I f*cking LOVE that song.

[olive]

while i was away it leaked

[button-lip]

Well, buckinghammcvie.com is registered - as of last october... The page is under construction

The page is under construction! Coming son!
Just when I thought I'd never see anything other than BuckinghamNicks...
Like Lindsey said, it took 40 years but here we are. :blob1:

[michelej1]

For Under the Skin, three songs were available for streaming. That's the only way I knew them before the first concert, because the album was not out yet.
I was so excited to get the songs and played them into the ground.


That said, I don't really favor a preview or a clip, before hand.

Michele

[aleuzzi]

Most of "Time" was done by Richard Dashut. Kind of hard to argue his merit, other than it seems that he was thoroughly burned out during it.

I'm surprised they didn't ask Ken to do BTM.

Production wise (and I think overall) Time is vastly superior to BTM. But one of the things a more assertive producer might have done was suggest Christine use acoustic pianos and a Hammond B3 instead of those tinny yamahas she was using. Egads.

[aleuzzi]

I read a Ken interview where he said he stopped working with them after Mirage just because he moved on, he didn't say it was really because of anything.

Fighting wasn't even really the problem with Tango anyways, it was that everyone was a mess.

He did allude during his q&a that he and Lindsey had a musical disagreement while making Mirage. Can't recall exactly where it is in his q&a but if you scroll through it you'll find it. The suggestion Ken made was that Lindsey didn't ask him back after this.

Edit: I did find the portion of his q&a and am quoting it here:

How come you ended your work with Fleetwood Mac in 1983? Richard was a Co-producer with Lindsey on Tango, but not you if my memory is correct. In recent interviews Lindsey has seemed to be much more focused on Fleetwood Mac than his solo career despite the fact he has been working on a solo album since 1996. Has he shelved his solo project in favor of rolling it into a Fleetwood Mac album? (Anonymous, Amherst, Massachusetts, USA)

Well, maybe you could give me a tip on the stock market. My birthday is coming up-- go buy the Rumours DVD audio disc. Do you know it's been number one for eight weeks! See, the band really believes that you all would not be happy if Christine was on the album and not on the road. I think they may be right. I stopped working with Fleetwood Mac in 1983 because they didn't ask me to do. I think it was something between me and Lindsey. Yes, I believe Lindsey has shelved his solo project and is rolling it into the new Fleetwood Mac album.

[jbrownsjr]

Production wise (and I think overall) Time is vastly superior to BTM. But one of the things a more assertive producer might have done was suggest Christine use acoustic pianos and a Hammond B3 instead of those tinny yamahas she was using. Egads.

The voicing of the keyboards on Hollywood want to make me slit my wrists.

[aleuzzi]

The voicing of the keyboards on Hollywood want to make me slit my wrists.

Yes--and it's such a shame, too, because in every other way the song is perfect.

[SteveMacD]

Hollywood and Sooner Or Later were unnecessarily long.

[jbrownsjr]

Yes--and it's such a shame, too, because in every other way the song is perfect.

The melody is wonderful.

[lennonfan]

The title of the album should be Buckvie by McIngham:)

[jbrownsjr]

The title of the album should be Buckvie by McIngham:)

Musk! :lol: