What's wrong with the admins @ Ivory Keys?

[UCYOURGYPC]

Just wondering who else might have had problems with Mike Bise at Ivory keys? He had asked me to contribute artwork for his blog, and compilation MP3 projects, which I did, then he left IK for a while, and without my permission, passed my work onto another admin, who got upset when I asked to be credited for my work in her posting(s), so she then tore down the post, and now today I discover I've been removed from the group!
Is it me, am I wrong for simply asking for credit for my own artwork?
I contributed a lot to that group, and find this completely unfair.
I've tried reaching out to Mike, and he simply ignores me...now I know why his blog keeps getting reported. Screw enough people, and it comes back to you!

[eric51078]

Just wondering who else might have had problems with Mike Bise at Ivory keys? He had asked me to contribute artwork for his blog, and compilation MP3 projects, which I did, then he left IK for a while, and without my permission, passed my work onto another admin, who got upset when I asked to be credited for my work in her posting(s), so she then tore down the post, and now today I discover I've been removed from the group!
Is it me, am I wrong for simply asking for credit for my own artwork?
I contributed a lot to that group, and find this completely unfair.
I've tried reaching out to Mike, and he simply ignores me...now I know why his blog keeps getting reported. Screw enough people, and it comes back to you!

Don't get me started on that looney tune! I removed myself from the group and blocked him. Crazy potatoes that one is. I just can't even! Sorry you had that experience. Seems to be a pattern over there and here to be quite honest.

[Frankenstein]

Mike Bise strikes me as an unsavory character. In the Facebook group he would ban people for the most ridiculous reasons. He's also obsessed with thinking that every Stevie song is about Joe Walsh and really tries to push the idea.

[dreamsunwind]

Mike Bise strikes me as an unsavory character. In the Facebook group he would ban people for the most ridiculous reasons. He's also obsessed with thinking that every Stevie song is about Joe Walsh and really tries to push the idea.

Yeah, I wanted to join once but I saw some stories on tumblr about him being kind of a tyrant. He kicks people out for not having the same opinion as him or saying anything that even remotely resembles criticism of Stevie or if he thinks you illegally downloaded anything.

[mirror69]

I know Mike over 20 years and I share with him many concerts and demos and I never had problems with him.For me is a great person

Paolo

[Karissa]

This week, I was randomly booted & blocked from Ivory Keys, & I have no idea why, since I never even really talked in the group, so I definitely never had conflicts in there, & I certainly never reposted or misused any of his files.

I messaged Alicia to ask why, but my message went ignored (as I figured it would). I don't know what's going on in there lately, but it sure seems like a mess.

[TheWildHeart67]

Yikes. I've never been and now I never will go

[ricohv]

I'm confused.. What is this, a Facebook group? When I go to the old Ivory Keys web address it seems closed (Ivorykeysblogspot.com I think)

[KenshiMaster16]

They also do not allow anything negative or critical about Stevie to be said there, period. Pretty much every article about an upcoming Mac tour, project or the Buck/McVie album has comments disabled. It's quite a looney place indeed. No person is infallible, including Stevie. Fans should be allowed to call out celebs on their B.S. no matter how much we like or respect them.

[SisterNightroad]

I moved the thread here because I thought it was a better destination since it isn't strictly Stevie related.

This week, I was randomly booted & blocked from Ivory Keys, & I have no idea why, since I never even really talked in the group, so I definitely never had conflicts in there, & I certainly never reposted or misused any of his files.

I messaged Alicia to ask why, but my message went ignored (as I figured it would). I don't know what's going on in there lately, but it sure seems like a mess.
I'm not sure if that's the reason but most of the private Facebook groups ban the members that have never participated nor interacted after a certain lenght of time.

I'm confused... What is this, a Facebook group? When I go to the old Ivory Keys web address it seems closed (Ivorykeysblogspot.com I think)
Ivory Keys is a private Facebook group for Stevie and FM bootlegs sharing, while ivorykeysblogspot.com is technically just an attached side blog. Mike Bise is the administrator of the latter but not of the main Facebook group.

[petep9000]

Maybe someone is ill?

[Karissa]

I'm not sure if that's the reason but most of the private Facebook groups ban the members that have never participated nor interacted after a certain lenght of time.



I mean, I was active enough to frequently thank admins for sharing demo links & such, just never really in a social way with others in the group, if that makes sense. I sure hope there's more to this strange purging of the group aside from not being actively social in some of their rambling circular threads. :shrug:

[petep9000]

well, I happen to know they hate Ledgies. And you can't say anything critical about Stevie at all, especially when one of them is in their manic phase. You'll get blocked, banned, and booted for sure.

[SisterNightroad]

well, I happen to know they hate Ledgies. And you can't say anything critical about Stevie at all, especially when one of them is in their manic phase. You'll get blocked, banned, and booted for sure.
Really? But some Ledgies are in the group.

[jbrownsjr]

Just wondering who else might have had problems with Mike Bise at Ivory keys? He had asked me to contribute artwork for his blog, and compilation MP3 projects, which I did, then he left IK for a while, and without my permission, passed my work onto another admin, who got upset when I asked to be credited for my work in her posting(s), so she then tore down the post, and now today I discover I've been removed from the group!
Is it me, am I wrong for simply asking for credit for my own artwork?
I contributed a lot to that group, and find this completely unfair.
I've tried reaching out to Mike, and he simply ignores me...now I know why his blog keeps getting reported. Screw enough people, and it comes back to you!

I have no problem with you wanting to be credited for work that you did. Kudos to you. And shame on them.

[SpyNote]

Just wondering who else might have had problems with Mike Bise at Ivory keys? He had asked me to contribute artwork for his blog, and compilation MP3 projects, which I did, then he left IK for a while, and without my permission, passed my work onto another admin, who got upset when I asked to be credited for my work in her posting(s), so she then tore down the post, and now today I discover I've been removed from the group!
Is it me, am I wrong for simply asking for credit for my own artwork?
I contributed a lot to that group, and find this completely unfair.
I've tried reaching out to Mike, and he simply ignores me...now I know why his blog keeps getting reported. Screw enough people, and it comes back to you!

His ego is very fragile. He's made a lot of enemies by banning people for perceived slights. The glass-half-full side of me feels sorry for him because there is clearly a mental health issue here. Mike's written nice letters (real ones) to me in the past, so I know he isn't a bad person. But since starting Ivory Keys, he's let the attention and respect he's received from other fans go to his head. Any comment he perceives as a threat to this status will send him off the rails.

[David]

I know Mike over 20 years and I share with him many concerts and demos and I never had problems with him.For me is a great person

Paolo Hi, Paolo. Do you remember when Debbie Peterson (in Ohio) and I used to trade tapes with you? This would have been about 25 or 30 years ago.

Back then, I bought issues of Mike's fanzine, which I think was called Mirror Mirror. It had good stuff, and the text was very opinionated and mostly literate. I was impressed. One thing I noticed about Mike at the time was that no one was more impressed with Mike than . . . Mike.

[David]

His ego is very fragile. He's made a lot of enemies by banning people for perceived slights. The glass-half-full side of me feels sorry for him because there is clearly a mental health issue here. Mike's written nice letters (real ones) to me in the past, so I know he isn't a bad person. But since starting Ivory Keys, he's let the attention and respect he's received from other fans go to his head. Any comment he perceives as a threat to this status will send him off the rails. Daniel, I remember you from your fan profile on TV. You're a good guy. I always liked you!

Sad to hear that Mike is exhibiting mental instability. Of course, he isn't the first Stevie Nicks fan to do so, and I think I can safely say he won't be the last!

[mirror69]

Hi, Paolo. Do you remember when Debbie Peterson (in Ohio) and I used to trade tapes with you? This would have been about 25 or 30 years ago.

Back then, I bought issues of Mike's fanzine, which I think was called Mirror Mirror. It had good stuff, and the text was very opinionated and mostly literate. I was impressed. One thing I noticed about Mike at the time was that no one was more impressed with Mike than . . . Mike.
Thanks David,

I happy to find a "old friend" from panpals days!!!!I don't like much this thread and I don't like the words against Mike there's no reasons Stevie/Fmac are music for all our hearts....yes in the past I was hangry if there's a show can't trade and I can't accept that not share but all of this I don't like

[SisterNightroad]

I must warn you that all the people you have mentioned by name can read your posts and Mike Bise himself is still a registered member of The Ledge.

Criticism is allowed but slur isn't, so you all can recount your bad experiences with the Facebook group, but choose carefully the words for your future posts.

[mirror69]

I must warn you that all the people you have mentioned by name can read your posts and Mike Bise himself is still a registered member of The Ledge.

Criticism is allowed but slur isn't, so you all can recount your bad experiences with the Facebook group, but choose carefully the words for your future posts.

This is about me?
I've only reply at David with my opinions nothing else

[FuzzyPlum]

This is about me?
I've only reply at David with my opinions nothing else

Don't worry, her words of caution weren't aimed towards you.

[SisterNightroad]

This is about me?
I've only reply at David with my opinions nothing else
No, as Fuzzy already pointed out I wasn't referring specifically to you, it was simply a generical warning

[iamnotafraid]

1. I must warn you that all the people you have mentioned by name can read your posts...

2. Criticism is allowed but slur isn't...

That means I'd better start lying.

If I can't slur someone...

And who is this Mike Bise character?
Frankly, he sounds made up.

[SpyNote]

Daniel, I remember you from your fan profile on TV. You're a good guy. I always liked you!

David! :woohoo:

[petep9000]

I liked him very much. I enjoyed communicating with him and I always appreciated his effort in bringing Stevie Nicks rarities to fellow fans. I remember being so touched that he mailed me cassette tapes around 1994-1995, free of charge, just for the love of the music. He hates me now because I told him I don't like The Other Side of The Mirror. I told him someone can be a Stevie fan and not like a particular album. Hell, I *love* Street Angel for God's sake. But that tipped him over the edge and he blocked me on Facebook. It's a shame, I really liked him. Oh well.