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jcalzaretta
11-13-2016, 12:45 PM
I was at a client seminar sponsored by my firm. Kenny Loggins played. Third song in. He starts talking. He says - so in 1977 I opened for Fleetwood Mac. I met Stevie and she says to me - if you ever need a chick to sing with you, call me. So I had this song and Stevie ended up singing with me. He said - I never sing this song without giving a shout to Stevie because she jump started my career. It was a nice little shout out to her. And a great version of the song.
Tango
11-13-2016, 04:54 PM
That's great that you got to see him like that. I agree, it's great that Kenny still gives Stevie some credit on that song. There's an article on the Nicks Fix that includes a few lines about her time with Kenny Loggins (she says this stuff in 1/2 jest).
http://rockalittle.com/hightimes3-82.htm
HIGH TIMES: You did a duet with Kenny Loggins, "Whenever I Call You Friend."
STEVIE NICKS: That was a discipline thing. I call him Slave-Driver Loggins. He cracked the whip on me for two days to get that particular performance. And I was downright angry at points where I was going, "I’m not going to do this." He said, "Yes, you are." He’s a real good producer, Kenny, he got exactly what he wanted. When it was done and I left, I was knocked out. I really had to keep my mouth shut and do what I was told. And it worked. He wasn’t interested in a dull vocal.
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I haven't ever seen a video of Stevie performing with Kenny Loggins live yet. I'm sure there's one out there somewhere
jcalzaretta
11-13-2016, 09:34 PM
I love that. Slave Driver. He did get what he wanted. A brilliant vocal from Stevie and a vocal only she could deliver. I love that song.
dreamsunwind
11-13-2016, 09:49 PM
This is one of her best in my opinion, although I guess most of the credit goes to Kenny.
Her duets are all amazing, they're probably my favorite songs of her non-FM career.
ricohv
11-13-2016, 10:04 PM
I wish Stevie would have given more vocals like this: powerful and brilliant! And, I wish this song got as much attention and airplay as a song I see as it's twin or parallel: Dont Go Breaking My Heart by Elton John & Kiki Dee.
*Ricoh*
Jondalar
11-13-2016, 11:47 PM
That's great that you got to see him like that. I agree, it's great that Kenny still gives Stevie some credit on that song. There's an article on the Nicks Fix that includes a few lines about her time with Kenny Loggins (she says this stuff in 1/2 jest).
http://rockalittle.com/hightimes3-82.htm
HIGH TIMES: You did a duet with Kenny Loggins, "Whenever I Call You Friend."
STEVIE NICKS: That was a discipline thing. I call him Slave-Driver Loggins. He cracked the whip on me for two days to get that particular performance. And I was downright angry at points where I was going, "I’m not going to do this." He said, "Yes, you are." He’s a real good producer, Kenny, he got exactly what he wanted. When it was done and I left, I was knocked out. I really had to keep my mouth shut and do what I was told. And it worked. He wasn’t interested in a dull vocal.
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I haven't ever seen a video of Stevie performing with Kenny Loggins live yet. I'm sure there's one out there somewhere
And yet he wouldn't give her any credit as a duet....
Tango
11-14-2016, 05:16 AM
He did list Stevie on the album, but not on the 45. Not sure what that was about.
ahafan02
11-14-2016, 07:35 AM
He did list Stevie on the album, but not on the 45. Not sure what that was about.
If I remember correctly it had something to do with the two different record labels not coming to an agreement. Stevie sadly wasn't his first choice. Co-writer Melissa Manchester was supposed to be on the track but she was busy touring with Bette Midler and couldn't find the time to go to a studio and Kenny wouldn't wait. She recorded her own version a few years later in 1979 with session singer Arnold McCuller.
Nicks Fan
11-21-2016, 11:19 PM
Anyone know if they have ever performed this live together?
bombaysaffires
11-21-2016, 11:27 PM
Anyone know if they have ever performed this live together?
there are photos of them onstage together. I'm sure someone might have links to some
Macfanforever
11-22-2016, 02:48 AM
I love Melissa Manchester and her music.It would be a killer hit too if they done it together instead of Stevie.
iamnotafraid
11-22-2016, 02:59 AM
HIGH TIMES: You did a duet with Kenny Loggins, "Whenever I Call You Friend."
STEVIE NICKS: That was a discipline thing. I call him Slave-Driver Loggins. He cracked the whip on me for two days to get that particular performance. And I was downright angry at points where I was going, "I’m not going to do this." He said, "Yes, you are." He’s a real good producer, Kenny, he got exactly what he wanted. When it was done and I left, I was knocked out. I really had to keep my mouth shut and do what I was told. And it worked. He wasn’t interested in a dull vocal.
And if that were Lindsey?
StevieNicksfann
11-23-2016, 08:20 AM
If I remember correctly it had something to do with the two different record labels not coming to an agreement. Stevie sadly wasn't his first choice. Co-writer Melissa Manchester was supposed to be on the track but she was busy touring with Bette Midler and couldn't find the time to go to a studio and Kenny wouldn't wait. She recorded her own version a few years later in 1979 with session singer Arnold McCuller.
Actually I do believe Stevie was his first choice. I remember a radio interview from the late 70's or early 80's where Kenny states how delicate it was in handling the situation because he admits to writing the song with Melissa but instead asking Stevie to sing on it with him over Melissa. The interviewer made some verbal guffaw and Kenny said something like "I know, it was tricky" or something to that effect. But the jist of it was or the feeling I got was that Melissa's own recording of it was sort of retaliatory (and that may not be the right word) and done after the fact anyway on her own because she had gotten mad or upset or was hurt.
But as to the credit issue and why Stevie wasn't listed on the single version, I have no idea about that.
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