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sorcerer999
10-08-2016, 12:00 AM
Who agrees with me that it's a travesty that this album hasn't gotten the deluxe treatment yet? :thumbsup:

I know the album was basically recorded in a couple of months, right? I'm not sure how many songs were recorded and if there would be enough outtakes or alternates to warrant a second disc. Does anyone out there know much about these sessions?

I remember reading somewhere that Lindsey had quite a few songs that weren't used. I also remember an interview with Stevie where she said that "Sorcerer" almost went on the first Fleetwood Mac record that she was involved with, but was scrapped in favor of "Rhiannon". Christine has gone on record stating that at the time she really only sat down and wrote songs when she knew they were going to be recording a new album, so I'm not sure if she would have any outtakes either.

The 2004 remastered edition, as we all know, is kind of lackluster - It merely boasts the "single versions" of everything and then one jam session. It's also quite possible, since the band wasn't at the height of their popularity at the time, that anything leftover was either tossed or lost. :shrug:

What do you guys think?

secondhandchain
10-08-2016, 12:01 AM
I don't think there is enough material because they recorded very the album very efficiently. I've never read about extra material.

sorcerer999
10-08-2016, 12:06 AM
I don't think there is enough material because they recorded very the album very efficiently. I would imagine only concert footage.

I'd be content with a nice live concert CD. :nod: It would be nice to have a crisp sounding "Hypnotized", "Oh Well", "Spare Me A Little", "Station Man" and ESPECIALLY "Why" with those amazing three part harmonies. And also a nice live Fleetwood Mac version of "Frozen Love".

And also a new 5.1 surround sound DVD of the album!!! :D

SisterNightroad
10-08-2016, 02:17 PM
I agree, after Rumours it's the best album for me of the Buckingham Nicks formation.
I don't know if there is studio material available for a rarities CD, but if we're talking about videos there's a lot. They could either issue a DVD with the Largo (or Landover) or Capitol Center show or they could finally give us a DVD of the much wanted Midnight Special. There must be even the leftover material for the Rosebud documentary.
Maybe there is also some unreleased audio bootlegs material? We have very little show for the 1976 leg of the tour, and none of them is high quality, which surprise me since by that time the band had become much more famous.

BLY
10-08-2016, 04:29 PM
I could see at least a three cd set if there isn't any outtakes or alternative tracks.
1.Remastered album
2. 5.1 Surround Sound Mix
3. Live Cd that would inlude: Hypnotized,Spare Me A Little,Get Like You Use To Be and Why and Don't Let Me Down Again.

Andrew Smith
10-08-2016, 06:00 PM
I read on this forum recently that a 5.1 remix had been done for their 1975 self-titled album, so that would be a welcome bonus.

Seeing as the 2004 re-issue only included one outtake I'm guessing that either there isn't any existing outtakes from that album's sessions or that there was but they've since been lost.

There is one demo version of Rhiannon on YouTube (link below).

The multi-tracks obviously still exist or they wouldn't of been able to create a 5.1 surround sound mix.

Were there any decent sounding concerts from that album's tour that were professionally recorded?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5KRPoAiTN0

Phil
10-09-2016, 01:13 AM
I seem to remember Ken talking about the 5.1 mix some years ago and he mentioned that there was a version of "Landslide" with harmony vocals (courtesy of Stevie).
I imagine there is a paucity of unreleased material but demos/rough takes/alternate versions of the album tracks would be great to hear. I've also read that "Sorcerer" was recorded during these sessions.
With regard to live material from this era, surely they must have recorded the one or two attempts at "Silver Springs"? The bootleg recording I've heard of this is extremely poor in terms of audio quality but the actual performance is sublime.

Macfan4life
10-09-2016, 04:48 AM
Of course we would all love it. But as others have said, I don't think there are all the extras like later albums. As far as a live show...., that would be great. But its important to remember that Lindsey has been on the record he hated singing classic Mac songs like Station Man and Hypnotized. He said he felt like he was in a cover band singing in a nightclub :eek:

SeanJT
10-09-2016, 06:36 AM
I would love the Capitol Theatre concert remastered with it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPGIcL4x0jw

BLY
10-09-2016, 07:12 AM
I could see at least a three cd set if there isn't any outtakes or alternative tracks.
1.Remastered album
2. 5.1 Surround Sound Mix
3. Live Cd that would inlude: Hypnotized,Spare Me A Little,Get Like You Use To Be and Why and Don't Let Me Down Again.




........OH I forgot Station Man.

sleepless child
10-09-2016, 07:41 AM
I have been thinking the same thing recently. I would love a remastered White Album. Surely there is audio of them working out the songs. Concert rehersals would be nice to. There is audio of them rehersing Warm Ways

SisterNightroad
10-09-2016, 07:43 AM
Were there any decent sounding concerts from that album's tour that were professionally recorded?
The Passaic, Wallingford, Largo and Boston shows from 1975 are soundboard.

SisterNightroad
10-09-2016, 07:51 AM
I have been thinking the same thing recently. I would love a remastered White Album. Surely there is audio of them working out the songs. Concert rehersals would be nice to. There is audio of them rehersing Warm Ways
Yes, and it was a very nice performance! I'd like to hear it in higher quality, and possible if there are more song from the rehearsals I'd like to hear them too.

peer_gynt10
10-09-2016, 02:41 PM
Couldn't they just add the Buckingham Nicks album as a bonus? I know that technically it doesn't belong there, but it might be the best way for the record company to generate enough interest in such a box?

Andrew Smith
10-09-2016, 04:44 PM
The Passaic, Wallingford, Largo and Boston shows from 1975 are soundboard.

If those tapes still exist, then they would make for excellent bonus material for a Deluxe reissue of the 1975 self-titled Fleetwood Mac album. :thumbsup:

SisterNightroad
10-09-2016, 04:52 PM
If those tapes still exist, then they would make for excellent bonus material for a Deluxe reissue of the 1975 self-titled Fleetwood Mac album. :thumbsup:
They exist and are circulating, so I'd prefer something unheard actually. Like a soundboard from the 1976 leg of the tour, at the time the band had gotten much better and there were the best Rhiannon ever. Not to mention that we only have two audience recrdings from then.

sorcerer999
10-09-2016, 05:33 PM
They exist and are circulating, so I'd prefer something unheard actually. Like a soundboard from the 1976 leg of the tour, at the time the band had gotten much better and there were the best Rhiannon ever. Not to mention that we only have two audience recrdings from then.

I would LOVE to have the COMPLETE 1976 outdoor daytime show at Santa Barbara. This is where the performances of "World Turning" and "I'm So Afraid" come from on the Rosebud Documentary. The whole show was filmed. There is a snippet of "Rhiannon" from this show on Fleetwood Mac's "VH1 Behind The Music" and a clip of "Over My Head" from Disney's "Going Home" Documentary.

I asked Ken about this on Facebook a couple of years ago and if he thought it would see the light of day. He said that Michael Collins, who directed and edited the Rosebud Documentary, still has possession of the entire show and thinks he might have plans to do something with it in the near future. Maybe the powers that be at Warners could buy the footage off him? :shrug:

~*BellaDonna*~
10-09-2016, 05:45 PM
Deluxe editon of the 'White Album'? Yes,
please! I honestly think FM's early catalogue should be revisited, especially 'Then Play On'.

SisterNightroad
10-10-2016, 04:52 AM
I would LOVE to have the COMPLETE 1976 outdoor daytime show at Santa Barbara. This is where the performances of "World Turning" and "I'm So Afraid" come from on the Rosebud Documentary. The whole show was filmed. There is a snippet of "Rhiannon" from this show on Fleetwood Mac's "VH1 Behind The Music" and a clip of "Over My Head" from Disney's "Going Home" Documentary.

I asked Ken about this on Facebook a couple of years ago and if he thought it would see the light of day. He said that Michael Collins, who directed and edited the Rosebud Documentary, still has possession of the entire show and thinks he might have plans to do something with it in the near future. Maybe the powers that be at Warners could buy the footage off him? :shrug:
Exactly! I think I've repeated this innumerable times since I got on this board, but I didn't know about this info by Ken, thank you! Let's wait and hope.
I used to know Landslide from that show and it was awesome, my favourite and objectively the best landslide ever, but I lost it because of a PC crash.
It wouldn't be bad to have a DVD from the Midnight Special too.

aleuzzi
10-10-2016, 02:11 PM
I think we have already have pretty much everything that the white album had to offer beyond the original lp release.

Now that I'm thinking about it, I'd LOVE albums of outtakes and remasters for MYSTERY TO ME, PENGUIN, HEROES, BARE TREES, and FUTURE GAMES. I wonder if there are alternate vocals for any of the tracks I've come to love. And, in a few instances, possibly buried tracks.

sorcerer999
10-10-2016, 03:11 PM
I think we have already have pretty much everything that the white album had to offer beyond the original lp release.


I had thought the same thing after we got the 2004 Remastered and Expanded Editions of the first three "Rumours line up" albums. ESPECIALLY all the stuff that we got on Rumours and Tusk.

But then of course the 2013 and 2015 SUPER DELUXE editions of both of those albums proved that there was A LOT more that had been held back, which is why I'm wondering if they held back stuff from the White Album as well? :shrug:

BaronVonBielski
10-11-2016, 03:26 PM
I really want a super deluxe of it. I'd be happy with a 5.1 surround mix.

jbrownsjr
10-11-2016, 05:54 PM
Re Re Re Master of all tracks..

Live show opening with Get Like You Used to Be

All outakes and B/N tracks not used.

mylittledemon
10-11-2016, 06:00 PM
I really want a super deluxe of it. I'd be happy with a 5.1 surround mix.

I think they could still pull off a nice 2 disc set at minimum (album remastered disc, plus 5.1 disc) and a remastered LP.

Throw in a live concert from the era or a DVD from 75-76 and they're all set.

lbfan
10-11-2016, 07:03 PM
If they "think outside the box" (excuse the pun), they could include the B/N album re-mastered as a CD, since Stevie and Lindsey will likely never release it as a duo.

mylittledemon
10-11-2016, 07:12 PM
^As cool as that would be I'd never see it happening just in terms of dividing royalties on it.

I'd much rather just have a 2 disc Buckingham Nicks deluxe reissue to include a remastered LP and CD... backed up by a Stevie and Lindsey acoustic tour.