Deluxe Rock A Little Wishlist

[sadmabelnormand]

Hey all! With the recent announcement of the remastering and rerelease of Bella Donna and The Wild Heart, I am hoping that Rock A Little will hopefully be remastered and rereleased as a deluxe edition soon! What do you guys wish to see on it?

My dream would be this

DISC ONE - Remastered Original Album

DISC TWO - Outtakes/Demos

1) Rock A Little (Extended Alternate Take)
2) Chanel, Chanel (Take 3)
3) All Over You [I'm not sure if this would be possible however]
4) Mirror, Mirror
5) Rose Garden (outtake)
6) Thousand Days (Sax Outtake)
7) Something Exquisite (Take 1)
8) Jimmy, Come on Back
9) Night Gallery
10) The Nightmare (I Can't Wait 12-inch Remix)
11) Battle of the Dragon
12) She Loves Him Still (outtake)

DISC THREE - Full Red Rocks Show

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What do you wish to see on a potential deluxe edition of Rock A Little? Please keep in mind no rerelease has been announced, and this track list is purely my hopes and dreams.

[WatchChain]

Great idea. I would love for all of Stevie's albums to get a remastered treatment.

I consider "Rock A Little" to be her weakest record. As a 15 year old teenager in the 80's I was hooked on the album, listening to it for a solid year---thus, I know it back and forth. However, "Rock A Little" just hasn't stood the test of time and sounds complete dated. I tried to listen to "RAL" on Spotify the other day for the first time in over 20 years. I couldn't get through it. It's just to 80's synthesizered and overproduced for my taste.

In contrast, "Bella Donna" and "Wild Heart" have held up and still sound completely fresh to me.

[StevieandChris]

I would love for a surprise disc to be the whole Mirror, Mirror album she originally intended.

[sorcerer999]

1. "Rock A Little" (Extended 12" version)
2. "The Nightmare (Extended 12" Remix)
3. "I Can't Wait" (Slow synth intro Remix)
4. "Talk To Me" (Alternate Time/Life version)
5. "Battle Of The Dragon"
6. "Mirror, Mirror"
7. "Something Exquisite"
8. "Night Gallery"
9. "Rock A Bye Baby"
10. "Running Through The Garden"
11. "Lady From The Mountain"
12. "Greta"

So many to choose from!!!! This album could warrant TWO discs of outtakes! :nod:

[Jondalar]

I don't think we will see a deluxe Rock A Little.

[olive]

I am more curious to see what would be included in STREET ANGEL if/when it gets updated

[The Highwayman]

I don't think we will see a deluxe Rock A Little.

I have a bad feeling you might be right, however, after the 2003 remasters of the white FM album, Rumours and Tusk, and then the subsequent deluxe versions of Rumours and Tusk, I decided I had to face facts that we'd never ever see a remastered Mirage or Tango. Well, we've got Mirage now (and I'm betting a deluxe or at least remastered Tango will be coming down the pipe at some point, and maybe a deluxe white album), so a deluxe Rock a Little is certainly possible. I suppose it depends on how well the deluxe editions of Bella Donna and The Wild Heart sell.

I'm less certain about a deluxe OSOTM, but that'd be okay with me, personally. But Rock a Little is a must-have.

[Jondalar]

I have a bad feeling you might be right, however, after the 2003 remasters of the white FM album, Rumours and Tusk, and then the subsequent deluxe versions of Rumours and Tusk, I decided I had to face facts that we'd never ever see a remastered Mirage or Tango. Well, we've got Mirage now (and I'm betting a deluxe or at least remastered Tango will be coming down the pipe at some point, and maybe a deluxe white album), so a deluxe Rock a Little is certainly possible. I suppose it depends on how well the deluxe editions of Bella Donna and The Wild Heart sell.

I'm less certain about a deluxe OSOTM, but that'd be okay with me, personally. But Rock a Little is a must-have.

Those albums were all multi platinum. Rock a Little was not. She won't reissue a deluxe edition if it.

[bwboy]

My dream would be this

DISC ONE - Remastered Original Album

DISC TWO - Outtakes/Demos

1) Rock A Little (Extended Alternate Take)
2) Chanel, Chanel (Take 3)
3) All Over You [I'm not sure if this would be possible however]
4) Mirror, Mirror
5) Rose Garden (outtake)
6) Thousand Days (Sax Outtake)
7) Something Exquisite (Take 1)
8) Jimmy, Come on Back
9) Night Gallery
10) The Nightmare (I Can't Wait 12-inch Remix)
11) Battle of the Dragon
12) She Loves Him Still (outtake)

DISC THREE - Full Red Rocks Show


Some of those titles sound really intriguing- Night Gallery and Chanel, Chanel in particular. Is All Over You the song that Billy Burnette played guitar on? I was curious why you said including that song might not be possible.

I would love Love LOVE an audio CD of the full show from Red Rocks! Especially if it at least included I Can't Wait!

[SisterNightroad]

I lost my demos so I don't remember anymore my picks in detail but roughly I'd like it to be structured like this:

Disc 1: remastered album
Disc 2: alternates and/or extended versions
Disc 3: scrapped outtakes and demos
Disc 4: Unreleased RAL soundboard material or complete unedited Red Rock DVD, remastered obviously.

I'd like to hear the yet unheard version of The Dealer recorded for RAL, Stevie's version of Baby Don't Lose Your Heart, All Over You with Prince, Freestyle with Les Dudek and who knows what more could there be.

[sorcerer999]

It's just to 80's synthesizered and overproduced for my taste.

That's PRECISELY why I love it! :laugh:

I don't think we will see a deluxe Rock A Little.

I never thought we'd see a deluxe edition of ANYTHING from her solo catalog. So, you never know! I think it will depend on sales/interest of these first two releases.

I am more curious to see what would be included in STREET ANGEL if/when it gets updated

HA! Now with THIS one, I'm inclined to go with what Jondalar said about RAL. "Street Angel" was a flop and to this day is still considered her worst effort. But still, I'd LOVE to see a deluxe edition of it (but then, I'd love a deluxe edition of EVERYTHING she's done). I just don't think it's going to happen with this album. :(

I'm less certain about a deluxe OSOTM, but that'd be okay with me, personally. But Rock a Little is a must-have.

Agreed! BD, WH and RAL is like the "Holy Trilogy" in regards to Stevie's solo career! :D

...and I would ADORE a deluxe version of TOSOTM, by the way. But like "Street Angel", I'm less certain about that one, too.

[KarmaContestant]

I don't think we will see a deluxe Rock A Little.

Your optimism is always so refreshing. :p

I *do* believe we will see a reissue of Rock A Little. Stevie has talked before about going through the vaults for Enchanted, and how she found lots of 'wild and crazy' stuff from the RAL days. Also, the act of working on BD and WH surely has her thinking about RAL and TOSOTM.

Stevie is enormously popular with industry insiders. The fact that she has a dedicated fan base helps, too - her label will know ahead of time almost exactly how many units will move based on BD and WH sales. Fans who buy reissues tend to be completists who aren't going to pass up one album in a series.

That said -

Alternates:
Rock A Little - UK 12" extended / alternate mix
The Nightmare - 12" Mix
I Can't Wait - 7" single edit(s)
Talk To Me - Time/Life alternate mix

Non L/P Tracks:
One More Big Time R&R Star (unlikely since it is on Enchanted)
Mirror Mirror
Battle of the Dragon (unlikely since it is on Enchanted)
Reconsider Me (unlikely since it is on Enchanted)

Demos / Outtake Versions:
Running Through The Garden
Thousand Days (sax outtake)
Love Is Like A River
Are You Mine
Greta
She Loves Him Still
Chanel Chanel
Jimmy Come Back
Something Exquisite
Tied Up In Promises (unlikely since it's a cover)
Ooh, Ooh, Baby
You Like Me
No Spoken Word - That synthier version that sarts with 'Be aware...'
Joan of Arc


Thing is - there are probably songs she could choose which we've never heard of, and songs we've heard of that we didn't know were tried out for RAL. So while I'd love to get the stuff on my list on a deluxe package, it's possible that Stevie could surprise us all.

[sorcerer999]

Battle of the Dragon (unlikely since it is on Enchanted).

True. But "Violet And Blue", "Sleeping Angel" and "Blue Lamp" are ALSO on "Enchanted" and have been included on the BD and WH expanded editions. It would seem Stevie considers her songs that were pulled off albums and put on soundtracks to be just as important to the whole package...and I love that!

Also...I NEED for "Battle Of The Dragon" to be remastered! It's like in my top 10 Stevie songs EVER!!! :D

[KarmaContestant]

True. But "Violet And Blue", "Sleeping Angel" and "Blue Lamp" are ALSO on "Enchanted" and have been included on the BD and WH expanded editions. It would seem Stevie considers her songs that were pulled off albums and put on soundtracks to be just as important to the whole package...and I love that!

Also...I NEED for "Battle Of The Dragon" to be remastered! It's like in my top 10 Stevie songs EVER!!! :D

Good point - I was looking at Amazon and notice that both Garbo and Violet and Blue are described as remastered. Presumably, Sleeping Angel and Blue Lamp are also remastered.

[Jondalar]

Your optimism is always so refreshing. :p

I *do* believe we will see a reissue of Rock A Little. Stevie has talked before about going through the vaults for Enchanted, and how she found lots of 'wild and crazy' stuff from the RAL days. Also, the act of working on BD and WH surely has her thinking about RAL and TOSOTM.

Stevie is enormously popular with industry insiders. The fact that she has a dedicated fan base helps, too - her label will know ahead of time almost exactly how many units will move based on BD and WH sales. Fans who buy reissues tend to be completists who aren't going to pass up one album in a series.

That said -

Alternates:
Rock A Little - UK 12" extended / alternate mix
The Nightmare - 12" Mix
I Can't Wait - 7" single edit(s)
Talk To Me - Time/Life alternate mix

Non L/P Tracks:
One More Big Time R&R Star (unlikely since it is on Enchanted)
Mirror Mirror
Battle of the Dragon (unlikely since it is on Enchanted)
Reconsider Me (unlikely since it is on Enchanted)

Demos / Outtake Versions:
Running Through The Garden
Thousand Days (sax outtake)
Love Is Like A River
Are You Mine
Greta
She Loves Him Still
Chanel Chanel
Jimmy Come Back
Something Exquisite
Tied Up In Promises (unlikely since it's a cover)
Ooh, Ooh, Baby
You Like Me
No Spoken Word - That synthier version that sarts with 'Be aware...'
Joan of Arc


Thing is - there are probably songs she could choose which we've never heard of, and songs we've heard of that we didn't know were tried out for RAL. So while I'd love to get the stuff on my list on a deluxe package, it's possible that Stevie could surprise us all.

Thanks. I'm the down-to-earth realistic one on this board.

[olive]

Thanks. I'm the down-to-earth realistic one on this board.

i though i was

[brad975]

I'm baffled that "All Over You" is still mistaken for a Stevie/Prince collaboration. The voices sound nothing like Stevie or Prince.

As a huge Prince fan, I own a book containing exhaustive records of Prince's recording sessions from his engineers in the 1980s, and there's no mention of this song among his outtakes/demos. I've never seen this song come up in discussions in Prince fan forums. I think most Prince fans would laugh at the idea this was the work of the Purple Yoda.

I think I'm going to post it on prince.org to see the reaction.

I hope whatever half-baked, would-be basement lounge act that recorded this appreciate the attention it's attracted for many many years.

Sorry if that sounds harsh. But I'm "All Over" it.

[TheWILDheart]

Knowing what Rhino has done in terms of reissues for other artists recently, I think we will see deluxe RAL and OSOTM sets coming.

As much as I would LOVE a remastered "Street Angel", I can't see that happening. It would be nice if Stevie released all her albums in a remastered boxset with all the b-sides and bonus tracks - a Complete Studio Recordings boxset.

[SisterNightroad]

I'm baffled that "All Over You" is still mistaken for a Stevie/Prince collaboration. The voices sound nothing like Stevie or Prince.

As a huge Prince fan, I own a book containing exhaustive records of Prince's recording sessions from his engineers in the 1980s, and there's no mention of this song among his outtakes/demos. I've never seen this song come up in discussions in Prince fan forums. I think most Prince fans would laugh at the idea this was the work of the Purple Yoda.

I think I'm going to post it on prince.org to see the reaction.

I hope whatever half-baked, would-be basement lounge act that recorded this appreciate the attention it's attracted for many many years.

Sorry if that sounds harsh. But I'm "All Over" it.
I've seen people doubting that it was Stevie before, but never people doubting that it was Prince singing.
However the song has been turned to Atlantic Records by Stevie herself in 1998 among the possible inclusions for her upcoming boxset, it is dated 1985-6 and it's listed at Atlantic Records as a Stevie and Prince collaboration. If you want to know the real truth write to Atlantic Records.

[bwboy]

I thought Billy Burnette did a song with Stevie for Rock a Little, before he joined FM. I thought it was the song everyone is saying they think was Prince, but of course they sound nothing alike. Anyone know the name of the song with Billy?

[KarmaContestant]

I thought Billy Burnette did a song with Stevie for Rock a Little, before he joined FM. I thought it was the song everyone is saying they think was Prince, but of course they sound nothing alike. Anyone know the name of the song with Billy?

Are You Mine

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrSYMxcn900

[Christopher]

I thought Billy Burnette did a song with Stevie for Rock a Little, before he joined FM. I thought it was the song everyone is saying they think was Prince, but of course they sound nothing alike. Anyone know the name of the song with Billy?

Stevie and Billy recorded the country classic "Are You Mine." The recording was never released officially, but surfaced via bootleg tapes and has circulated amongst fans for decades now.
Side note - The press release for The Wild Heart deluxe release lists "Are You Mine" - (demo) on Disc 2 -Bonus tracks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrSYMxcn900

[Macfan4life]

Great idea. I would love for all of Stevie's albums to get a remastered treatment.

I consider "Rock A Little" to be her weakest record. As a 15 year old teenager in the 80's I was hooked on the album, listening to it for a solid year---thus, I know it back and forth. However, "Rock A Little" just hasn't stood the test of time and sounds complete dated. I tried to listen to "RAL" on Spotify the other day for the first time in over 20 years. I couldn't get through it. It's just to 80's synthesizered and overproduced for my taste.

In contrast, "Bella Donna" and "Wild Heart" have held up and still sound completely fresh to me.
I agree with you about RAL. I was also 15 when the album came out. I also agree its her weakest album. However, the demos and outtakes are some of the most interesting in her career.
I love Running Through the Garden and some of The Nightmare outtakes. I hate the Rock A Little song on the album. Its a real odd ball. However, the longer (seems to be original) cut is actually pretty good. I also think the other cut of Some Become Strangers is so much better than the album cut.
So while I don't care for RAL, I would be thrilled for some of these gems to be released. Unfortunately, many of the RAL performances were terrible so I bet we would never get a live CD :eek:
Have you ever heard the 1986 Rhiannon in Chicago when she does not even know when to sing? Then she has no shame and says "This is my song....I got this." But all she does is keep singing the same verse over and over. Its so bad that its good :eek:

[bwboy]

Thanks for the info, Karma and Christopher! Glad it'll be on the Wild Heart.

Obviously, a RAL Deluxe would have to include the 'softer' version of Talk to Me, previously available on an 80's greatest hits CD.

[brad975]

I've seen people doubting that it was Stevie before, but never people doubting that it was Prince singing.
However the song has been turned to Atlantic Records by Stevie herself in 1998 among the possible inclusions for her upcoming boxset, it is dated 1985-6 and it's listed at Atlantic Records as a Stevie and Prince collaboration. If you want to know the real truth write to Atlantic Records.

Thanks for the info. Do you have official documentation of this track being considered for the box set, or being listed at Atlantic Records as Stevie/Prince? I'd love to see that. if someone can produce it.

Prince has a wide vocal range, and that male voice sounds nothing like him. It sounds like a white guy trying to be soulful. Now it's always possible that Prince could have had another band member sing with Stevie. But I can't imagine who that would be, given my extensive knowledge of Prince's musicians in the '80s and beyond. Drummer Bobby Z. or keyboardist Matt Fink weren't given opportunities to step up to the mike for prominent vocals. And it's not bassist Brown Mark.

And the "Stevie" vocal? In what era did Stevie sound like that? This singer has a vaguely raspy quality to her voice, but it bears little resemblance to any era of Nicks' changing voice.

Perhaps you might be curious to this song closely with headphones again and see if your opinion changes.

I understand that people like the idea that Prince and Stevie worked together again (and she does claim he offered her an opportunity to write lyrics to the "Purple Rain" track).

But Prince is way too funky for the rudimentary chicken scratch on "All Over You." The actual performers of this track would be lucky to have been booked as an opening act at a Holiday Inn lounge where tourists fear to travel. This is not the work of two legends.

But again, I'd love to see any official documentation (even a news article mentioning the track).

I did find a couple of brief threads on this track and prince.org with the wide consensus that it was a fake. The only fan who seemed to think it was real called herself PurpleGypsy and seemed a little deluded.

[sorcerer999]

The only fan who seemed to think it was real called herself PurpleGypsy and seemed a little deluded.

:laugh::laugh::laugh: That's hilarious!

Add me to the list of folks who think that this outtake is definitely NOT Prince or Stevie. And if there WAS something that Stevie turned into Atlantic called "All Over You" featuring her and Prince, then it's definitely something no one has heard yet. It it's real, maybe we'll get it on the "RAL" deluxe set? :D

[SisterNightroad]

Thanks for the info. Do you have official documentation of this track being considered for the box set, or being listed at Atlantic Records as Stevie/Prince? I'd love to see that. if someone can produce it.

Prince has a wide vocal range, and that male voice sounds nothing like him. It sounds like a white guy trying to be soulful. Now it's always possible that Prince could have had another band member sing with Stevie. But I can't imagine who that would be, given my extensive knowledge of Prince's musicians in the '80s and beyond. Drummer Bobby Z. or keyboardist Matt Fink weren't given opportunities to step up to the mike for prominent vocals. And it's not bassist Brown Mark.

And the "Stevie" vocal? In what era did Stevie sound like that? This singer has a vaguely raspy quality to her voice, but it bears little resemblance to any era of Nicks' changing voice.

Perhaps you might be curious to this song closely with headphones again and see if your opinion changes.

I understand that people like the idea that Prince and Stevie worked together again (and she does claim he offered her an opportunity to write lyrics to the "Purple Rain" track).

But Prince is way too funky for the rudimentary chicken scratch on "All Over You." The actual performers of this track would be lucky to have been booked as an opening act at a Holiday Inn lounge where tourists fear to travel. This is not the work of two legends.

But again, I'd love to see any official documentation (even a news article mentioning the track).

I did find a couple of brief threads on this track and prince.org with the wide consensus that it was a fake. The only fan who seemed to think it was real called herself PurpleGypsy and seemed a little deluded.
The info I got is from Mike Bise's site that now has unfortunately been shut down, however I transcripted his extensive article on the RAL sessions here, you can the information I talked about: http://www.ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/showpost.php?p=1175313&postcount=12
If you want more precise background info ask Mike, he's reachable on facebook and google+ as Michael Bise and he's very helpful.

About the demo I'm not a Prince connoisseur so I can't judge on that, but Stevie is another matter. As I've already said, the tape is dated as being recorded during the RAL era. I remember well the demo, and yes at first I didn't recognize their voices too, but it is evident that the voices have been greatly altered with studio effects. After listening very well I found some similarities between the female voice in the chorus and Stevie's schreeching altered studio voice that she used in some songs during this period.

As for the song, I don't find it ugly but it is very flawed like all early demos are. This was probably a very early and uncompleted version, who knows how it would have sound once it got completed? The sounds of their voices were just backing vocals and more and better vocals with their actual voices would have been added. This would fit with the fact that their collaboration has been supposedly very short.

[~*BellaDonna*~]

Rock A Little is the weakest output from Stevie durning the 1980s. As another Ledgie pointed out, it sounds quite dated and is overproduced. It has not stood the test of time, whereas Bella Donna, The Wild Heart and to a degree, The Other Side of the Mirror have held up remarkably well. I own Rock A Little, but like I did with Street Angel, I only have it to complete my collection of Stevie's solo albums. If it ever gets a deluxe reissue, I don't think I'm going to bother getting it.

However, I hope they do something with Tango in the Night. I think that was the last good album that Mac has put out, to date.

[KarmaContestant]

I too doubt that All Over You is Stevie and Prince. I would ask - what is the source for that track being among the demos turned in to Atlantic. Really, it's just hearsay unless Stevie herself or an industry spokesperson said it. There's a demo CD that has circulated called "Enchanted Outtakes"and it's on there - but again- what is the source for that? All of the demo compilations that have circulated amongst fans were fan-created.

I'd be really shocked (and sort of disappointed) if it turned out tot be Stevie and Prince because it's kind of...garbage.

And let's not forget the faked "demo" that so many were convinced was real - Do I Bring You Down.

[SisterNightroad]

I too doubt that All Over You is Stevie and Prince. I would ask - what is the source for that track being among the demos turned in to Atlantic. Really, it's just hearsay unless Stevie herself or an industry spokesperson said it. There's a demo CD that has circulated called "Enchanted Outtakes"and it's on there - but again- what is the source for that? All of the demo compilations that have circulated amongst fans were fan-created.

I'd be really shocked (and sort of disappointed) if it turned out tot be Stevie and Prince because it's kind of...garbage.

And let's not forget the faked "demo" that so many were convinced was real - Do I Bring You Down.
Sorry if I repeat myself but probably my posts are TLDR, I had said that the source is Mike Bise that said in his old report on the RAL sessions:
When Stevie turned in several tapes to Atlantic Records in Manhattan in Early 1998, among the songs to be considered for inclusion on her upcoming box set was “All Over You.” The song is from the Rock A Little era and is recorded with Prince [...] However, it is 100% certain that Stevie herself handed over the tape with “All Over You” on it to Atlantic Records, so there should be no confusion that it is definitely Stevie singing on this song with Prince.

[sorcerer999]

I had said that the source is Mike Bise.

Which perfectly sums up why most of us are doubtful about the validity of the story. :rolleyes::laugh:

[KarmaContestant]

Sorry if I repeat myself but probably my posts are TLDR, I had said that the source is Mike Bise that said in his old report on the RAL sessions:

What I meant is - who is Mike's source?

I can make a blog and say stuff too. Doesn't mean it's true. I'm not saying Mike is making stuff up, but there is no valid source given (Stevie, Atlantic, producers, press clippings, etc...) that back up this claim about All Over You being submitted for Enchanted.

[SisterNightroad]

Which perfectly sums up why most of us are doubtful about the validity of the story. :rolleyes::laugh:
Still a better source than all of us here.
No offense, but for now it seems that the main reason why people doubt the song it's because they don't like it.

What I meant is - who is Mike's source?

I can make a blog and say stuff too. Doesn't mean it's true. I'm not saying Mike is making stuff up, but there is no valid source given (Stevie, Atlantic, producers, press clippings, etc...) that back up this claim about All Over You being submitted for Enchanted.
As I said ask Mike.
I remember someone commented his post with just the same question but I don't remember his answer.

[KarmaContestant]

No offense, but for now it seems that the main reason why people doubt the song it's because they don't like it.



Perhaps. I think it has more to do with the fact that Stevie has one of the most recognizable voices in music. All Over You doesn't sound like her.

[SisterNightroad]

Perhaps. I think it has more to do with the fact that Stevie has one of the most recognizable voices in music. All Over You doesn't sound like her.
I personally never understood this fact of considering her "one of the most recognizable voices in music" bacause if you take any year of her career she doesn't sound like did the year before. Even her studio voice is very different than her live voice. Her timbre is surely unique, but I think that casual fans wouldn't recognize her voice on many bootlegs or demos.
I see some resemblance between the voices, but they are heavily altered by studio effects as I've always said.
However I found that Mike answered this same question many times in old threads and I found one of them, if you're curious:

Rather than search through my old posts to explain all this in mega detail, here's the quickie version:

The Enchanted outtakes were turned in to Atlantic Records in Manhattan by Stevie Nicks herself in February 1998 for consideration for the rarities part of the collection. Hand-delivered. By Stevie Nicks. My source (call him "Spider") worked in the Atlantic offices in NYC then. He copied those songs onto CD and gave then to his then-girlfriend/now-wife (let's call her "Luna").

Luna made a CD copy for me and sent it to me immediately.

These songs, hand-delivered to Atlantic Records in New York City by Stevie Nicks in February 1998, are:

The Nightmare - Piano Demo #1
The Nightmare - Piano Demo #2
Gypsy Beggar
All Over U
How Still My Love - Outtake #1
How Still My Love - Outtake #2
Twisted - Demo #1 (without overdubs)
Twisted - Demo #2 (with overdubs)
Edge Of Seventeen - Unreleased 12" Dance Version (the one who the "Whoo"s in it)
It's Late #1
It's Late #2

All of these songs were on the Master Tapes Stevie turned in to Atlantic.

Why would Stevie turn in a song to be on her box set if she's not on the song? Who has "confirmed" that it's "not Stevie"?

Stevie had the Master of "All Over U" in her possession and let it be considered for Enchanted.

[ahafan02]

Great idea. I would love for all of Stevie's albums to get a remastered treatment.

I consider "Rock A Little" to be her weakest record. As a 15 year old teenager in the 80's I was hooked on the album, listening to it for a solid year---thus, I know it back and forth. However, "Rock A Little" just hasn't stood the test of time and sounds complete dated. I tried to listen to "RAL" on Spotify the other day for the first time in over 20 years. I couldn't get through it. It's just to 80's synthesizered and overproduced for my taste.

In contrast, "Bella Donna" and "Wild Heart" have held up and still sound completely fresh to me.

I hate the whole "Dated" BS that fans of any artist throw around. Of course it all sounds dated. ROL is 31 years old. If you think her first two albums sound "fresh" listen to the radio. There is no way any of her old material sounds like it could have been made today.

ROL is brilliant from start to finish. I realize some fans hate it but I love ever single track on it as well as the songs recorded for it but left off like Battle of the Dragon and One More Big Time Rock 'N Roll star. I think she will reissue RAL and OSOTM but I don't see her (sadly) reissue Street Angel.

[KarmaContestant]

However I found that Mike answered this same question many times in old threads and I found one of them, if you're curious:

But still - a source who is not verifiable. In the end, I seriously doubt Stevie would have turned in crap sounding (as in the terrible sound quality of those) demos to Atlantic for a career spanning box set.

It really doesn't matter in the end. Some think it's Stevie. Some don't. No one knows except Stevie and Prince and whoever else might have been there.

The subject has been debated for years.

[Nathan]

Perhaps. I think it has more to do with the fact that Stevie has one of the most recognizable voices in music. All Over You doesn't sound like her.

I can really be swayed either way on this one. I'm riding' that fence.

Although, I have heard some HQ versions of All Over You that I personally found compelling.

I'm out! :]

[bwboy]

I hate the whole "Dated" BS that fans of any artist throw around. Of course it all sounds dated. ROL is 31 years old. If you think her first two albums sound "fresh" listen to the radio. There is no way any of her old material sounds like it could have been made today.

ROL is brilliant from start to finish. I realize some fans hate it but I love ever single track on it as well as the songs recorded for it but left off like Battle of the Dragon and One More Big Time Rock 'N Roll star. I think she will reissue RAL and OSOTM but I don't see her (sadly) reissue Street Angel.

I agree. When I listen to Stevie's albums, the Wild Heart and Rock a Little are the two cds that I can listen to almost completely from start to finish and not skip a track. On Bella Donna, I really love half the songs but dislike the other half. I love most of Other Side/Mirror but hate Fire Burning and Cry Wolf and Whole Lotta Trouble. Street Angel again is 50/50 for me, along with Trouble in Shangri-La and In Your Dreams. Even though a couple of songs on RAL are odd, like Sister Honey and Rock a Little, she still sings the crap out of them! Talk to Me is incredible, very anthemic rock. I Can't Wait and Imperial Hotel are fun and high energy, while Has Anyone Ever Written Anything is beautiful. The Nightmare is pure Stevie. Some Become Strangers and No Spoken Word are fine middle of the road songs, and I adore If I Were You. Maybe they're not classics, but the songs on RAL sure are catchy as hell.

[Nathan]

I hate the whole "Dated" BS that fans of any artist throw around. Of course it all sounds dated. ROL is 31 years old. If you think her first two albums sound "fresh" listen to the radio. There is no way any of her old material sounds like it could have been made today.

Agree!

I agree. When I listen to Stevie's albums, the Wild Heart and Rock a Little are the two cds that I can listen to almost completely from start to finish and not skip a track. On Bella Donna, I really love half the songs but dislike the other half. I love most of Other Side/Mirror but hate Fire Burning and Cry Wolf and Whole Lotta Trouble. Street Angel again is 50/50 for me, along with Trouble in Shangri-La and In Your Dreams. Even though a couple of songs on RAL are odd, like Sister Honey and Rock a Little, she still sings the crap out of them! Talk to Me is incredible, very anthemic rock. I Can't Wait and Imperial Hotel are fun and high energy, while Has Anyone Ever Written Anything is beautiful. The Nightmare is pure Stevie. Some Become Strangers and No Spoken Word are fine middle of the road songs, and I adore If I Were You. Maybe they're not classics, but the songs on RAL sure are catchy as hell.

Yeah, I'm 50/50 on most too. RAL might be my most consistent play-through.

[sorcerer999]

I think she will reissue RAL and OSOTM but I don't see her (sadly) reissue Street Angel.

You're probably right. And as much as most of us would love to see deluxe versions of EVERYTHING she's done, I doubt we'll get TISL or IYD either. Although, I think TISL deluxe would be fascinating ESPECIALLY if any of the Dallas Austin sessions were unearthed. :nod:

Based on the documentary, I'm pretty sure everything that was recorded for the IYD album was released.

If anything, I'd at least like to see those three albums get the vinyl treatment. It would satisfy my "completionist" nature in regards to my collection. :D

[sadmabelnormand]

Okay, so I've edited my wish list, and I think it would be something like this:

DISC 1 - Remastered Album

DISC 2 - Alternates/Extended Takes/Demos

1) I Can't Wait (Extended Rock Mix)
2) Rock A Little (Extended Alternate Take)
3) The Dealer
4) Mirror, Mirror
5) Rose Garden (outtake)
6) Thousand Days (Sax Outtake)
7) Reconsider Me
8) One More Big Time Rock & Roll Star
9) Talk To Me (TIME/Life Edition)
10) The Nightmare (I Can't Wait 12-inch Remix)
11) Battle of the Dragon
12) She Loves Him Still (outtake)

DISC 3 - Alternates/Extended Takes/Demos

1) Jimmy Come On Back
2) Something Exquisite (Take 1)
3) Night Gallery
4) Chanel, Chanel (Take 3)
5) The Nightmare (Piano Demo)
6) Lady From The Mountains
7) Love Is Like A River
8) Whole Lotta Trouble (Demo)
9) Welcome To The Room...Sara (Demo)
10) Rock A Bye Baby

DISC 4 - Red Rocks Live
(In my dreams it would be a perfect soundboard recording of opening night in Houston!)

[KarmaContestant]

OK, so rhetorical question here:

The song Rock A Little exists in two forms. One is the album version, released on all versions of the album. The other is usually referred to as "extended" or "alternate" and is found *only* on the UK 12" single for I Can't Wait.

The alternate mix is, in reality, the original mix before multiple little bits and pieces were meticulously cut out of the song to (presumably) reduce the total running length for the album's vinyl pressing.

This alternate, or complete version being released in the UK was probably a mistake. Stevie has never talked about it, or acknowledged a different mix being out there, to my knowledge.

So now that we're looking at the possibility of the RAL album seeing a remaster and reissue, what would you feel is the best way to handle this song?

*Keep the album as-is by remastering the edited version and using it on the remastered album release.
*Keep the album as-is, but also include the alternate mix as a bonus track
*Ditch the album version completely and replace it with the alternate since it is most likely the way Stevie intended the song to be....since, you know, she recorded it that way to begin with. Pretend that terrible edit never existed.

I'd choose the last option.

The completist in me sort of feels like the middle option will make most fans happy, but I see that as just taking space on the CD that could be better filled by something we've not heard before.

I would go as far as saying the edited version we got on the RAL album is pretty much garbage after having the chance to compare it to the alternate mix.

[bwboy]

I'm surprised no one else has mentioned this, but a Deluxe Edition of Rock a Little simply must include...a lyric sheet that isn't messed up and out of order! Does anyone know what happened to the original and why it was never fixed?

[MovieStarView]

Kick the album edit off the album and replace with the long one that stevie probably intended.

[KarmaContestant]

Kick the album edit off the album and replace with the long one that stevie probably intended.

It really is so much better. :nod:

Off topic, but listening to She Loves Him Still today, and thinking how great it might sound with violin in place of the flute.

[MovieStarView]

It really is so much better. :nod:

Off topic, but listening to She Loves Him Still today, and thinking how great it might sound with violin in place of the flute.

one hundred times better. the flute makes it sound too cheeseball.

[nicolasjz]

I'd like to hear the yet unheard version of The Dealer recorded for RAL, Stevie's version of Baby Don't Lose Your Heart, All Over You with Prince, Freestyle with Les Dudek and who knows what more could there be.

I would sell my mother to hear that demo ~ Stevie and Bruce are my two all-time favorite artists. Unfortunately I'm more and more convinced the story of Janey Don't You Lose Heart is a myth :(