Now Stevie has announced her tour, it all makes sense ...or not?

[secret love]

Does everyone believe the dribs and drabs of Fleetwood Mac news since the tour now make sense, with the announcement of Stevie's solo tour with The Pretenders?

So she wants to make an album.
She just wanted to tour 24 KG first and to further promote the commercial disappointment (but quite good) album In Your Dreams.
Then Fleetwood Mac?

I skimmed the article and I will read it word for word sometime today hopefully, maybe tonight after work.

Is the above correct?
We get a new album once Stevie's solo commitments are done?

Or is that still in doubt, with a tour likely but an album unlikely by this band?

Thanks.

Cheers

James

[AlexD]

There has been no indication of her working or wanting to work with FM for an album I guess.

[louielouie2000]

There has been no indication of her working or wanting to work with FM for an album I guess.

Exactly. Not only that, Stevie states she won't be returning to Fleetwood Mac for two years. Even then, it will only be for touring.

[AlexD]

Exactly. Not only that, Stevie states she won't be returning to Fleetwood Mac for two years. Even then, it will only be for touring.

I don't think she said two years did she?

[louielouie2000]

I don't think she said two years did she?

The third paragraph in the NY Times article she states she has two years off until FM wants her back.

[AlexD]

The third paragraph in the NY Times article she states she has two years off until FM wants her back.

God I hope Lindsey does a solo tour

[louielouie2000]

God I hope Lindsey does a solo tour

Truth. We now know he has the time!

[AliceLover]

Exactly. Not only that, Stevie states she won't be returning to Fleetwood Mac for two years. Even then, it will only be for touring.

Yeah but I think she was referring to 2016 and most of 2017 as the 2 years.

[elle]

God I hope Lindsey does a solo tour

Truth. We now know he has the time!

yes!

gotta love this quote for all the peeps who were so adamantly holding on to her talk about new FM album -

“I just woke up one morning and said, I have two years off before Fleetwood Mac comes knocking on my door. Why would I want to sit around and do nothing?”

[SteveMacD]

God I hope Lindsey does a solo tour
And, Mick, John, Christine, and Rick should do a Fleetwood-McVie Blues Band tour.

[AlexD]

yes!

gotta love this quote for all the peeps who were so adamantly holding on to her talk about new FM album -

“I just woke up one morning and said, I have two years off before Fleetwood Mac comes knocking on my door. Why would I want to sit around and do nothing?”

I can't say why Lindsey wouldn't say the same thing

[secondhandchain]

Does everyone believe the dribs and drabs of Fleetwood Mac news since the tour now make sense, with the announcement of Stevie's solo tour with The Pretenders?

So she wants to make an album.
She just wanted to tour 24 KG first and to further promote the commercial disappointment (but quite good) album In Your Dreams.
Then Fleetwood Mac?

I skimmed the article and I will read it word for word sometime today hopefully, maybe tonight after work.

Is the above correct?
We get a new album once Stevie's solo commitments are done?

Or is that still in doubt, with a tour likely but an album unlikely by this band?

Thanks.

Cheers

James

She's just a damn liar. I have time off why would I want to sit around????? WFT you just said you needed time off! Used to love her....can't STAND her.

[editme2]

She's just a damn liar. I have time off why would I want to sit around????? WFT you just said you needed time off! Used to love her....can't STAND her.

I love Stevie, but this is true.... I don't ever want to hear Stevie say she's tired and needs a break again. She can't sit still. She gets bored. She needs the energy of an audience. God love her for her work ethic. It's just disingenuous, and unfair to her Fleetwood Mac-mates, to say that she can't commit to making an album because she needs a break. Just be honest, Stevie: you want to focus on your solo work. Good for you. Just don't lie about your intentions.

[Macfanforever]

I'm glad to see her out but my gripe is how come she delayed it to freaking cold winter instead of doing a tour this summer.Also not happy because its a combo tour.I hope that the Pretenders setlist is short and sweet.

[sue]

I actually think we should cut Stevie a bit of slack, here.
2013 Fleetwood Mac world tour...starts April ended October 2013
January 2014 it is announced Christine is to return to the fold..
huge "on with the show" tour commences September 2014 and tours until November 2015.
Stevie releases 24Karat Gold in September 2014...but due to "On with the show", she never gets to promote her new Album.
Stevie finally gets to promote 24Karat in 2016....What is what she wanted to do after its release.....she put this on hold until now.

[SteveMacD]

Stevie finally gets to promote 24Karat in 2016....What is what she wanted to do after its release.....she put this on hold until now.
She could have waited until after the tour . . .

Although, I will say that they could have done "Lady" in the set and promoted her album (i.e. selling the CD at shows and having a video ad on the screens before the shows), especially since it completed her contractual obligations. It would have been good politicking.

[sue]

And, Mick, John, Christine, and Rick should do a Fleetwood-McVie Blues Band tour.

I love this idea....Mick, John and Christine getting back to their roots.

[Macfan4life]

I think Stevie should have toured this summer instead of late fall. Then she could have rested during the holidays and prepared to hit the studio with the Mac early next year.

[AlexD]

I actually think we should cut Stevie a bit of slack, here.
2013 Fleetwood Mac world tour...starts April ended October 2013
January 2014 it is announced Christine is to return to the fold..
huge "on with the show" tour commences September 2014 and tours until November 2015.
Stevie releases 24Karat Gold in September 2014...but due to "On with the show", she never gets to promote her new Album.
Stevie finally gets to promote 24Karat in 2016....What is what she wanted to do after its release.....she put this on hold until now.

Lindsey completely handed over two solo projects to turn into Fleeteood Mac albums though.

[jbrownsjr]

She could have waited until after the tour . . .

Although, I will say that they could have done "Lady" in the set and promoted her album (i.e. selling the CD at shows and having a video ad on the screens before the shows), especially since it completed her contractual obligations. It would have been good politicking.

And we wouldn't have Stevie on the piano!! Great idea

[nicepace]

And, Mick, John, Christine, and Rick should do a Fleetwood-McVie Blues Band tour.

YES!!! This would be my dream tour.

[BlueDenimLamp]

And, Mick, John, Christine, and Rick should do a Fleetwood-McVie Blues Band tour.

Yep...They need Rick to properly play the early FM songs...Didn't change the name during the "time" years why do it now...

[jbrownsjr]

Yep...They need Rick to properly play the early FM songs...Didn't change the name during the "time" years why do it now...

I agree.. there's been so many versions of FMac. Even Stevie said, "Hello Christine, it's your band. Mac Vie.. "

[SteveMacD]

Yep...They need Rick to properly play the early FM songs...Didn't change the name during the "time" years why do it now...
If you're seriously asking . . .

It would be a way to market to fans of Fleetwood Mac's early years. It tells those fans who it is and what to expect. The Fleetwood Mac brand is more heavily associated with lush pop sounds, not Chicago-style blues.

More importantly, there is an active lineup of Fleetwood Mac, which wasn't the case in 1993, when the "Time" lineup came together. The "Time" lineup was a natural progression in Fleetwood Mac's evolution, lack of success notwithstanding.

[aleuzzi]

I, like so many FM fans, am annoyed with Stevie. But I'm even more annoyed at the remaining members of the band. She wants to tour her album, fine. But Lindsey and Christine should release the duet as an independent project. Period. There's no reason to wait anymore. Just effing do it!

[bwboy]

A Fleetwood Mac album without Stevie would probably sell as well as a solo Lindsey Buckingham record. Read into that comment what you will.

And not that they were top 10 hits, but the two big singles from the Dance were Stevie songs.

[aleuzzi]

A Fleetwood Mac album without Stevie would probably sell as well as a solo Lindsey Buckingham record. Read into that comment what you will.

And not that they were top 10 hits, but the two big singles from the Dance were Stevie songs.

Yeah, and both those singles were oldies redone.

As many of us have been saying again and again, sales shouldn't be the determining factor for this band's creative output anymore. They're all millionaires many times over. To cite sales as the determining factor is to allow Stevie to continue doing what she's been doing: holding the band hostage to its own greed.

And besides, I'd prefer a Christine-Lindsey duet album independent of FM. His solo albums and Christine's In the Meantime were quite artistically satisfying.

[sue]

I agree.. there's been so many versions of FMac. Even Stevie said, "Hello Christine, it's your band. Mac Vie.. "

I suppose they could be called....
.... Fleetwood Perfect Mac

[MikeVielhaber]

A Fleetwood Mac album without Stevie would probably sell as well as a solo Lindsey Buckingham record. Read into that comment what you will.

And not that they were top 10 hits, but the two big singles from the Dance were Stevie songs.

The Fleetwood Mac name would sell more than Lindsey Buckingham. Those two are not on equal ground. It would also sell more than a Stevie Nicks album at this point.

[jbrownsjr]

I suppose they could be called....
.... Fleetwood Perfect Mac

Lots of subtext there! lol :laugh:

[bwboy]

The Fleetwood Mac name would sell more than Lindsey Buckingham. Those two are not on equal ground. It would also sell more than a Stevie Nicks album at this point.

A FM album without Stevie would not sell more than a Stevie album.

[BlueDenimLamp]

A FM album without Stevie would not sell more than a Stevie album.

And the last FM record without Stevie sold how many copies???

[SteveMacD]

And the last FM record without Stevie sold how many copies???
Stevie not being on "Time" isn't the sole reason for its failure. There were too many new people with that album . . . and that was just at the label. Mo Ostin and Lenny Waronker, who both firmly prioritized Fleetwood Mac for years, left Warner Music in August, 1994. The new bean counters didn't have that loyalty, and promoted the band accordingly.

Of course, the band expecting fans to warm up to a new lineup most didn't know was a little much to ask. That was a major part of their history between 1967-74, but the game had changed by 1995. Although, to be fair to the band, it's not like "Out of the Cradle" or "Street Angel" amounted to much in the way of sales. If Stevie had been involved, "Time" would have gone from being a miserable failure to a slightly less miserable failure.

[bwboy]

Fleetwood Mac must feel the same way, or they would release an album without Stevie.

[olive]

Kind sad she spent the first have of the year until July 5th with her dog who was dying

[elle]

Kind sad she spent the first have of the year until July 5th with her dog who was dying

instead of recording with FM. yeah.

it's pretty clear that she doesn't want to "like record that album like why would she like". there will always be some reason or another why, as has been since 2008.

FM should move on and put album out without her.

[BlueDenimLamp]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">You could flyaway to see Stevie LIVE <br>with <a href="https://twitter.com/ThePretendersHQ">@ThePretendersHQ</a> on the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/24KaratGold?src=hash">#24KaratGold</a> Tour! ENTER NOW <a href="https://twitter.com/LiveNation">@LiveNation</a> : <a href="https://t.co/3isNbOpZrg">https://t.co/3isNbOpZrg</a> <a href="https://t.co/JIXrZOvyyF">pic.twitter.com/JIXrZOvyyF</a></p>&mdash; Stevie Nicks (@StevieNicks) <a href="https://twitter.com/StevieNicks/status/778373738559594496">September 20, 2016</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[jbrownsjr]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">You could flyaway to see Stevie LIVE <br>with <a href="https://twitter.com/ThePretendersHQ">@ThePretendersHQ</a> on the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/24KaratGold?src=hash">#24KaratGold</a> Tour! ENTER NOW <a href="https://twitter.com/LiveNation">@LiveNation</a> : <a href="https://t.co/3isNbOpZrg">https://t.co/3isNbOpZrg</a> <a href="https://t.co/JIXrZOvyyF">pic.twitter.com/JIXrZOvyyF</a></p>&mdash; Stevie Nicks (@StevieNicks) <a href="https://twitter.com/StevieNicks/status/778373738559594496">September 20, 2016</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


Everytime I see those gloves I think of someone with carpal tunnel.. lol

[Macfanforever]

Kind sad she spent the first have of the year until July 5th with her dog who was dying

Oh no.Thats sad.

[Macfanforever]

Stevie not being on "Time" isn't the sole reason for its failure. There were too many new people with that album . . . and that was just at the label. Mo Ostin and Lenny Waronker, who both firmly prioritized Fleetwood Mac for years, left Warner Music in August, 1994. The new bean counters didn't have that loyalty, and promoted the band accordingly.

Of course, the band expecting fans to warm up to a new lineup most didn't know was a little much to ask. That was a major part of their history between 1967-74, but the game had changed by 1995. Although, to be fair to the band, it's not like "Out of the Cradle" or "Street Angel" amounted to much in the way of sales. If Stevie had been involved, "Time" would have gone from being a miserable failure to a slightly less miserable failure.

I like Time.They did not give enough time to catch on."Pun intended".
the 1987 tour and the 1990 outing with the two new boys in the band did great but I miss Lindsey .The Mac had its share of its employment issues like your local shops or warehouses where there is a revolving door an a continuous stream of people that quit/fired going out and new hires are coming in. .Today with FM and including now .If they"The Mac"Demanded Stevie to record .She should go and do it .Its her employer .Employment insubordination .Any of us try to delay or not obey orders from our employer and end up getting demoted or get FIRED.

[johnnystorms]

I like Time.They did not give enough time to catch on."Pun intended".
the 1987 tour and the 1990 outing with the two new boys in the band did great but I miss Lindsey .The Mac had its share of its employment issues like your local shops or warehouses where there is a revolving door an a continuous stream of people that quit/fired going out and new hires are coming in. .Today with FM and including now .If they"The Mac"Demanded Stevie to record .She should go and do it .Its her employer .Employment insubordination .Any of us try to delay or not obey orders from our employer and end up getting demoted or get FIRED.

That's just silly. FM is not Stevie's "employer".

[michelej1]

L. A. Music Blog December 14th, 2016 Zein Khleif

http://lamusicblog.com/2016/12/news/show-preview-stevie-nicks-the-forum/

SHOW PREVIEW: STEVIE NICKS @ THE FORUM
The 24 Karat Gold Tour is in full swing!

The “Reigning Queen of Rock and Roll,” Stevie Nicks, will be gracing The Forum’s stage on Sunday, December 18th. The 24 Karat Gold Tour, which just grew by another 25 dates, has Nicks and special guests The Pretenders traveling across the United States (with a stop in Vancouver) until April 2017.
Originally making her name with Fleetwood Mac in 1975, the “Landslide” singer launched her solo career in the early 1980s. She has released eight solo albums and has collectively sold 140 million records to date. Her most recent LP, 2014’s 24 Karat Gold: Songs from the Vault, features 14 tracks — all re-recorded from unreleased demos spanning the entirety of her career. That’s over 30 years worth of perspective on songs about love, loss, and healing.

The longevity of her career in such a finicky business truly astounds me. Very few artists have had as much success, over as much time, as Stevie Nicks. Her raspy voice and iconic style have been receiving rave reviews by journalists and fans alike.

I’m wholly upset that I’ll be out of town during her LA show (if only I hadn’t purchased my non-refundable holiday air fare!). But knowing Nicks is still the same passionate, mysterious, and vibrant musician that I grew up listening to gives me hope that I’ll witness her greatness at a later date down the road.

[jcalzaretta]

I am torn. I think she should record with the band for Christine. And Christine should talk to Lindsey about making this enjoyable for Stevie. That includes being respectful of how she wants her songs to sound. That seemed to be the major contention. If she can get her songs like she wants them, I think she can record. She still has a lot of demos to use - more than she needs for SFTV, II.

But I do agree that she did put this tour on hold for FM and so we should remember that.