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secret love
09-01-2016, 03:04 AM
Here's an idea. Just that - an idea and nothing more.

Why not?

- Add Christine's vocals to all four 2013 E.P. songs
(But: re-record It Takes Times with Chris on piano, change up the accompaniment but keep the melody the same, just add Christine's backing vocals)
The problem with It Takes Time is the piano accompaniment is way too repetitive. Christine could definitely jazz it up a bit and Linds might not mind.
PLUS:
- Ask Stephanie Lynn to contribute ONE brand new song to the album. I understand that she wrote some lyrics following her mother's death? Why not use them for a new song? Maybe a ballad about her mother? I don't know.
THEN:
Make the final new studio album by Fleetwood Mac in this way:
- Sequence it with the re-released EP songs first up
- Followed by Stevie's one new song
- Then all the completed sounds that four of them did in 2014 at Village recorder Studios in Los Angeles e.g. Too Far Gone, Carnival Begin, Red Sun etc.

Is this such a terrible idea? Do you think it would work?

To say, "Hey Stevie. How are you? We were just wondering if you would be able to come into the studio with us four? Don't panic, nothing strenuous. Just one day, in fact. All we want from you is one new song. Not from the vault. We're re-recording the Extended Play songs and they will go on the album, we think. If you like, some vault songs too, would be good but it's not critical. Other than that, just come in for an eight hour day with us, we will do your hours and work around you. Add backing vocals to our songs. What do you say?"

Would she agree, do you think? And why hasn't Lindsey done this already? Or Mick?

FuzzyPlum
09-01-2016, 03:22 AM
THEN:
Make the final new studio album by Fleetwood Mac in this way:
- Sequence it with the re-released EP songs first up
- Followed by Stevie's one new song
- Then all the completed sounds that four of them did in 2014 at Village recorder Studios in Los Angeles e.g. Too Far Gone, Carnival Begin, Red Sun etc.


Why?


From what we can read into the recent interview Mick gave, they've done all they can to persuade her. He said they've brought out a couple of her old songs and worked on those (I dont know whether he's refering to the EP songs or other old material). She aint interested.

secret love
09-01-2016, 03:43 AM
Why?


From what we can read into the recent interview Mick gave, they've done all they can to persuade her. He said they've brought out a couple of her old songs and worked on those (I dont know whether he's refering to the EP songs or other old material). She aint interested.

Mick ought to grow a set and give Stevie Nicks an ultimatum.

Those with long memories will know he has done that before.

Remember the 2012 Playboy interview? Mick said that he believed Fleetwood Mac would never tour again.

The result of that interview? Reasonably soon afterwards Stevie Nicks appeared on the talk show Loose Women and said that there would be another Fleetwood Mac tour and that it was a matter of when, not if, it would happen.

If it worked in 2012 it can work in 2016.

And if it doesn't, what does Mick lose? Nothing much really. He might piss her off a bit, but I'd say they ain't as good friends as they used to be even now anyway.

SisterNightroad
09-01-2016, 09:49 AM
How many times they've done this little acting drama in which they say 'Stevie doesn't want to do this, she doesn't want to do that and we're waiting for her and tried everything to convince her etc'?

aleuzzi
09-01-2016, 11:06 AM
Rent her a side room with drapes and candles and sketchbooks and notebooks and incense.

And a dream catcher.

FuzzyPlum
09-01-2016, 11:23 AM
Rent her a side room with drapes and candles and sketchbooks and notebooks and incense.

And a dream catcher.


Ha,
One step further...

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Ga8YiFepud0/VDemAhCsDDI/AAAAAAAAAZ0/znpN5kHVwwk/s1600/princess-with-unicorn-castle-butterfly-image-1134x803.jpg

Stevie, darling. This is the recording studio.

olive
09-01-2016, 12:02 PM
http://i.allday.ru/d3/79/4c/1318788425_money_washer_05.jpg

louielouie2000
09-01-2016, 12:55 PM
At this point, I'm genuinely curious as to what Stevie's reservations are.

I would understand completely if her parents were still alive, and she wanted to spend their remaining time together; but her parents have passed away.

I would get if she didn't want to be the lone female in the studio, being steamrolled by Lindsey. Because let's be honest; John just doesn't give a sh*t and Mick seems to default to the strongest personality; in this case, Lindsey. But Christine is back now, and we all know damned well that Christine has no issues calling a spade a spade.

If she doesn't want Lindsey as a producer, he's already proven he is okay giving up that mantle because Extended Play was an outside job.

If she wanted to do a solo tour, she'd be doing one right now, or would have dates announced for autumn.

If she wanted to work on another solo album, we would have heard about that through her camp, or Dave Stewart's.

For the life of me, I can't figure out what her end game is here. :shrug:

SisterNightroad
09-01-2016, 01:14 PM
At this point, I'm genuinely curious as to what Stevie's reservations are.

I would understand completely if her parents were still alive, and she wanted to spend their remaining time together; but her parents have passed away.

I would get if she didn't want to be the lone female in the studio, being steamrolled by Lindsey. Because let's be honest; John just doesn't give a sh*t and Mick seems to default to the strongest personality; in this case, Lindsey. But Christine is back now, and we all know damned well that Christine has no issues calling a spade a spade.

If she doesn't want Lindsey as a producer, he's already proven he is okay giving up that mantle because Extended Play was an outside job.

If she wanted to do a solo tour, she'd be doing one right now, or would have dates announced for autumn.

If she wanted to work on another solo album, we would have heard about that through her camp, or Dave Stewart's.

For the life of me, I can't figure out what her end game is here. :shrug:
Actually I'm starting to think she wants to rest. She's pretty old now and she's been lamenting various aches and pains and IF she isn't working on Songs From the Vaults 2 (which I hope and approve of) I think she's taking a sabbatical.

aleuzzi
09-01-2016, 04:47 PM
Actually I'm starting to think she wants to rest. She's pretty old now and she's been lamenting various aches and pains and IF she isn't working on Songs From the Vaults 2 (which I hope and approve of) I think she's taking a sabbatical.

Maybe so, but she's still working with others on their projects (School of Rock, Sheryl Crowe, Tom Petty...). I'm afraid she is just over the FM commitment and over working with LB.

SisterNightroad
09-01-2016, 05:04 PM
Maybe so, but she's still working with others on their projects (School of Rock, Sheryl Crowe, Tom Petty...). I'm afraid she is just over the FM commitment and over working with LB.
Yes but those are all short una tantum happenings, not commitments that require long hours in the studio everyday. She can just go there to add a bit of vocals on somebody else's song, they chit chat and joke a bit, and then she goes home to sip infusion with furry slippers on.

aleuzzi
09-01-2016, 05:18 PM
Yes but those are all short una tantum happenings, not commitments that require long hours in the studio everyday. She can just go there to add a bit of vocals on somebody else's song, they chit chat and joke a bit, and then she goes home to sip infusion with furry slippers on.

True. Hey, I wouldn't mind if she treated the next Mac album like that either! Contribute two or three songs and then go home while they finish it. But it sounds like she'd rather go out on the road for two years and make big money than contribute nominally to a record.

SisterNightroad
09-01-2016, 05:41 PM
True. Hey, I wouldn't mind if she treated the next Mac album like that either! Contribute two or three songs and then go home while they finish it. But it sounds like she'd rather go out on the road for two years and make big money than contribute nominally to a record.
Like another Tango in the Night? Or like Extended Play... no if we got to have just one last album I want one with her songs on it for real. However I think she's resting and then she'll do something solo, a mini tour or 24 karats gold part 2 and finally she'll go back to the band.

WatchChain
09-01-2016, 08:53 PM
[QUOTE=aleuzzi;1189713]Rent her a side room with drapes and candles and sketchbooks and notebooks and incense.

And a dream catcher.[

Aleuzzi, you are SPOT on! Rent the side room and fill it with the things you mentioned, and don't forget to ADD her handlers, Karen, Sharona, Lori, Waddy, and Dave Stewart. YES!! That's the answer, just make her feel like she's recording a "solo" album with her crew in tow.

Let's face it folks, some people just enjoy the process of being BEGGED. Stevie is not alone. I have a few of those folks as family members and co-workers. You know the ones. They will respectfully decline offers, hoping that someone will see them essential enough to BEG for their presence. SO, MICK.....you know what to do! Now let's get to work!!!!!!!

bombaysaffires
09-01-2016, 09:09 PM
Actually I'm starting to think she wants to rest. She's pretty old now and she's been lamenting various aches and pains and IF she isn't working on Songs From the Vaults 2 (which I hope and approve of) I think she's taking a sabbatical.

Yes but those are all short una tantum happenings, not commitments that require long hours in the studio everyday. She can just go there to add a bit of vocals on somebody else's song, they chit chat and joke a bit, and then she goes home to sip infusion with furry slippers on.

Yep. :nod:

BombaySapphire3
09-01-2016, 09:28 PM
at this point an electrified cattle prod might do the trick.

iamnotafraid
09-02-2016, 12:25 AM
at this point an electrified cattle prod might do the trick.

Am I the only one here who's been shocked with
one of those things?

HomerMcvie
09-02-2016, 09:55 AM
Am I the only one here who's been shocked with
one of those things?

Hey, this is a family forum!!!:mad:


No sex stories without pics!:lol:

jbrownsjr
09-02-2016, 10:26 AM
Hey, this is a family forum!!!:mad:


No sex stories without pics!:lol:

is there a goat prod?

HomerMcvie
09-02-2016, 11:40 AM
is there a goat prod?

Only Lindsey, Mick, Joe Walsh, Don Henley, Jimmy Iovine, and every other male musician in SoCo know that answer....:lol:

michelej1
09-03-2016, 12:07 AM
Why?


From what we can read into the recent interview Mick gave, they've done all they can to persuade her. He said they've brought out a couple of her old songs and worked on those (I dont know whether he's refering to the EP songs or other old material). She aint interested.

They could release a different version of IDWTK. And tell her in the parking lot.

Michele

jbrownsjr
09-03-2016, 05:49 AM
They could release a different version of IDWTK. And tell her in the parking lot.

Michele

Haha!! most of the shippers didn't get that joke...

iamnotafraid
09-05-2016, 01:47 AM
Hey, this is a family forum!!!:mad:


No sex stories without pics!:lol:

Forgot where I was.

No pics, dat's da' rules.

secondhandchain
09-17-2016, 12:13 AM
Tell her they will be honoring her with a special award int he studio. She'll show up because all she cares about now is adulation. That's why she likes touring. Her ego is out of control. Former fan here.

BombaySapphire3
09-17-2016, 12:31 AM
Tell her they will be honoring her with a special award int he studio. She'll show up because all she cares about now is adulation. That's why she likes touring. Her ego is out of control. Former fan here.

and very late to the party ...her ego spun out of control nearly 40 years ago.It is really no moreso now.Most long time fans accept that as part and parcel of being a fan.

~*BellaDonna*~
09-17-2016, 01:50 AM
I don't think Stevie gives a flying f@$k anymore about being involved in the making of another FM album and hasn't for a long time. She seems far more focused on her solo career.

Bottom line: Stevie, just throw in the towel and stop dragging our patience around....

Macfanforever
09-17-2016, 02:54 PM
She can go into the studio and cover this great classic tune and concentrate on her solo stuff and tours for rest of her life.Its fine with me.

<iframe width="854" height="480" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/EzGoDtmTllg" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

I'm glad that shes taking a moment to solo tour now.

I would love to see her cover Johnny's TTJASI with an attitude.

shackin'up
09-17-2016, 07:53 PM
2 and a half years ago every frikking ledgie would have signed this statement: do you want a new FM album? Just get Christine back in the band and in the studio, and she'll come running.


Not the slightest chance. And that is simply unbearable. Unfair and selfish. Point.

SteveMacD
09-17-2016, 10:53 PM
https://media.giphy.com/media/C8bLomXCZsnrG/giphy.gif

BlueDenimLamp
09-18-2016, 08:55 AM
Sorry but the fact that FM has not put out any new material since "SYW" is 100% Mick, John, Lindsey's and now Christine's fault...

Sometime after the tour they became aware of the fact that Stevie would be taking her usual 2 or 3 year vacation away from FM...

With the tour ending the better part of a year ago (it's now September) so they have had ample time to decide what it is they are doing next...

What are they doing??? Nothing... They will continue to wait on Stevie just like they always do...

The bands actions speak louder than words...The bands actions show just how "Unfair and selfish" they really are...

Will they do something without Stevie??? "Not the slightest chance. And that is simply unbearable (for the fans) Unfair and selfish (to the fans) Point"

The band will not willingly scale down what is FM...Their egos and bank accounts mean far to much to them...

As a side note Tom Petty recently put his pre-Heartbreakers band "Mudcrutch" back together recorded an album and toured behind it...

Did he make record sums of $$$???? Probably not but I bet he got a lot of enjoyment out of the process...If only FM could put their egos & bank accounts aside and do something "Just for fun"

Ulpian
09-18-2016, 09:24 AM
Sorry but the fact that FM has not put out any new material since "SYW" is 100% Mick, John, Lindsey's and now Christine's fault...

Extended Play was new material.

BlueDenimLamp
09-18-2016, 09:41 AM
Extended Play was new material.

"Without You" is a 35 year old "Buckingham Nicks" song that FM simply re-recorded...3 new songs in 13 years is quite a productive streak...

lilyfee
09-18-2016, 10:53 AM
If only FM could put their egos & bank accounts aside and do something "Just for fun"

Sadly, they aren't. Stevie is the only one even suggesting she might do something unprecedented with 24KG... First by merely recording this album of old demos, and now touring behind it with the promise of alternative setlists and songs rarely played. When it comes down to it, she acknowledges that a new FM album will probably not sell well and yet she's the only one saying they might go back to their roots by making an album just for the fun of it. She has done something so innovative even before 24KG, when she gave us Enchanted.

Furthermore, look at her promoting her new tour -- she's all over the media giving interviews and putting herself out there right now. Are the other members capable of this kind of self-promotion?

I think Stevie really is just sensitive. I think FM could literally sweet talk her back in the studio just by acting like they appreciate her.

BLY
09-18-2016, 11:04 AM
Something tells me she has layed down some tracks and has added her vocals to previous recorded songs by the group so Lindsey has something to work on for the next 90 days.

bombaysaffires
09-18-2016, 12:27 PM
She has done something so innovative even before 24KG, when she gave us Enchanted.



I'm not sure putting out a greatest hits compilation with a few additional unreleased tracks and soundtrack songs qualifies as "innovative". It's pretty standard. And there are far better boxed sets out there... The Heartbreakers' "Playback" was one....

bwboy
09-18-2016, 12:56 PM
Tell her they will be honoring her with a special award int he studio. She'll show up because all she cares about now is adulation. That's why she likes touring. Her ego is out of control. Former fan here.

Stevie has never seemed like one who lives for awards. She seems more invested in her fans rather than critical acclaim.

aleuzzi
09-18-2016, 02:50 PM
Something tells me she has layed down some tracks and has added her vocals to previous recorded songs by the group so Lindsey has something to work on for the next 90 days.

I like your optimism. I don't want to hope....but....

aleuzzi
09-18-2016, 02:56 PM
Sadly, they aren't. Stevie is the only one even suggesting she might do something unprecedented with 24KG... First by merely recording this album of old demos, and now touring behind it with the promise of alternative setlists and songs rarely played. When it comes down to it, she acknowledges that a new FM album will probably not sell well and yet she's the only one saying they might go back to their roots by making an album just for the fun of it. She has done something so innovative even before 24KG, when she gave us Enchanted.

Furthermore, look at her promoting her new tour -- she's all over the media giving interviews and putting herself out there right now. Are the other members capable of this kind of self-promotion?

I think Stevie really is just sensitive. I think FM could literally sweet talk her back in the studio just by acting like they appreciate her.


Stevie's aggressive self-promotion and concern for her posterity have little to do with keeping current and viable as an artist. She's still riding the "I wrote Landslide" train. Meanwhile LB and CM have written and recorded new material.

At the end of the day, she could and should do what she wants. But LB and CM shouldn't wait for her. They should release the music as a duet.

FuzzyPlum
09-18-2016, 03:04 PM
Something tells me she has layed down some tracks and has added her vocals to previous recorded songs by the group so Lindsey has something to work on for the next 90 days.

Sorry mate. Something tells me that's sooooo wishful thinking.
SHE JUST ISN'T INTERESTED

I can't remember where it was mentioned but it was suggested they had worked on a couple of old recordings. I get the impression that was more of an effort by the others to entice her in rather than her being directly involved as a means for creating new material.

FuzzyPlum
09-18-2016, 03:06 PM
Stevie's aggressive self-promotion and concern for her posterity have little to do with keeping current and viable as an artist. She's still riding the "I wrote Landslide" train. Meanwhile LB and CM have written and recorded new material.

At the end of the day, she could and should do what she wants. But LB and CM shouldn't wait for her. They should release the music as a duet.

If they don't do something together (or even solo) then I'd be surprised with Lindsey in particular. Lets wait and see what Christine has to say in this recent interview she did.

BlueDenimLamp
09-18-2016, 04:07 PM
Lets wait and see what Christine has to say in this recent interview she did.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Wait, did that actually happen? <a href="https://twitter.com/fleetwoodmac">@fleetwoodmac</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/mirage?src=hash">#mirage</a> <a href="https://t.co/wIb85S9XqD">pic.twitter.com/wIb85S9XqD</a></p>&mdash; Ralph Moore (@RalphusMoorus) <a href="https://twitter.com/RalphusMoorus/status/776787260222083072">September 16, 2016</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

No word on when it comes out...

jenniferuk
09-18-2016, 04:20 PM
The interviewer replied it will be out next week (which is now this week) and available at @theartsdesk

Murrow
09-18-2016, 05:07 PM
To my mind the best way to do it is... don't. Let's face it having both her and LB in the band these days just creates fireworks and they are no longer of the constructive variety. The other four all get on fine. They've got an album's worth ready to go, come on Mick just give her an ultimatum like you did with Lindsey in 87!!!

SteveMacD
09-18-2016, 11:23 PM
To my mind the best way to do it is... don't. Let's face it having both her and LB in the band these days just creates fireworks and they are no longer of the constructive variety. The other four all get on fine. They've got an album's worth ready to go, come on Mick just give her an ultimatum like you did with Lindsey in 87!!!
That's the perplexing part to me. Mick stood up to Peter Green when he basically was the band, he stood up to Lindsey on several occasions, and he told Christine that she was either in or out. I don't get how or why he lost his b . . . backbone.

HomerMcvie
09-19-2016, 01:35 AM
That's the perplexing part to me. Mick stood up to Peter Green when he basically was the band, he stood up to Lindsey on several occasions, and he told Christine that she was either in or out. I don't get how or why he lost his b . . . backbone.

Because(and you know that I HATE it) old goats her name became the face of FM. The days of reinvention are over. As much as you and I LOVE the rest of the band far more than her, this IS what it is.

And if one of them(other than Stevie) dies before they release another album, I'll blame the old goat until the day I die.:woohoo:

KarmaContestant
09-19-2016, 10:48 AM
I'm sure there will be an album before they go on tour again. In all seriousness - there is little point in FM releasing an album after a three year period of touring. They've always been a band that puts an album release right in front of a tour. They've toured to get their name out there and get the feels back on for working together, made a huge hubbub about Christine being back, and now is the time to go record an album. At the snails pace with which these people have always worked, a new album should be ready just in the nick of time to go on the road again in 18 months as planned.

I doubt sales potential has anything to do with Stevie's reticence (if that reticence is even factual, which we don't really know) because she's saying in interviews that sales don't matter anymore to her.

They aren't going to release an album without her. To think they will is foolish - look at the history from Mick's perspective:

Behind the Mask - No Lindsey, flop
Time - No Stevie or Lindsey, flop
Say You Will - No Christine, relative flop

Why on earth would they go forward and do another album sans one of the 'golden' members, when they've all just toured for three years and rebuilt some chemistry? If there is only going to be one more, might as well do it right. As Lindsey said - It Takes Time. :laugh:

BlueDenimLamp
09-19-2016, 11:58 AM
How to get Stevie in the studio??? Have fun recording !!!

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Check out Stevie's Huffington Post article with <a href="https://twitter.com/thekylestevens">@thekylestevens</a>! <a href="https://t.co/L2mh1G1Q5f">https://t.co/L2mh1G1Q5f</a></p>&mdash; Stevie Nicks (@StevieNicks) <a href="https://twitter.com/StevieNicks/status/777949251875794944">September 19, 2016</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

From her recent Huffington Post interview...

"Every other record we’ve ever done has taken at least a year. Rumors, all of the records. We have enough money where everyone goes ‘We can do whatever we want.’ And I think sometimes that really doesn’t work that well for you because you really don’t need to book every studio in the city to put FIVE THOUSAND OVERDUBS on music that is already really good. You are trying really hard to use your time wisely. You get better stuff and it is a lot more fun getting the stuff that you do get.” Nicks has had a lot of fun throughout her career and doesn’t plan on stopping anytime soon. Just when you think you have seen it all, Nicks makes sure that you haven’t seen anything yet.

Judging from her recent interviews Stevie's new outlook seems to be "If I can't have fun doing it I'm not doing it... Why waste the time I have left being miserable"

KarmaContestant
09-19-2016, 12:25 PM
How to get Stevie in the studio??? Have fun recording !!!

From her recent Huffington Post interview...

"Every other record we’ve ever done has taken at least a year. Rumors, all of the records. We have enough money where everyone goes ‘We can do whatever we want.’ And I think sometimes that really doesn’t work that well for you because you really don’t need to book every studio in the city to put FIVE THOUSAND OVERDUBS on music that is already really good. You are trying really hard to use your time wisely. You get better stuff and it is a lot more fun getting the stuff that you do get.”

Judging from her recent interviews Stevie's new outlook seems to be "If I can't have fun doing it I'm not doing it... Why waste the time I have left being miserable"

^^^

I think this is really the heart of the matter.

bwboy
09-19-2016, 12:26 PM
Didn't Behind the Mask go platinum? I know it went gold and peaked in the U.S. at #18, but it went to #1 in other countries. I bet it sold as much as Say You Will did. So while it was a disappointment, it wasn't a flop.

KarmaContestant
09-19-2016, 12:35 PM
Didn't Behind the Mask go platinum? I know it went gold and peaked in the U.S. at #18, but it went to #1 in other countries. I bet it sold as much as Say You Will did. So while it was a disappointment, it wasn't a flop.

It was a flop. So it went platinum - no one remembers it. It had no hits that have become classics. It's forgotten. That's what I call a flop. And by 'no one' I don't mean hardcore fans like us. I mean the masses who propel albums to legendary status.

Brad
09-19-2016, 12:41 PM
Say You Will - No Christine, relative flop

Funny story. We honeymooned in Maui at the beginning of August this year and went to Fleetwood's to watch Mick play with Willie K for one of the shows they were doing to celebrate the restaurant's 4th anniversary. (Incidentally, Sammy Hagar, Quest Love, and Kris Kristofferson all showed up unexpectedly too and played/sang with them [except Kris].)

Anyway, they had a raffle at the beginning, and the winner won a photo of the band in the studio working on the Say You Will album. As Mick was handing it to the winner, he explained that it was from the SYW session and referred to the album something along the lines of "not one of our greatest works." I'm paraphrasing that because I can't remember exactly what he said, but it was similar to that and clear that he didn't hold the album in high regard.

Awesome show by the way. I had never heard of Willie K before, but he was an amazing blues player and singer. Only about 50 people in the reserved seating area. Very intimate and cool. Mick always seems very appreciative of his fans in these kinds of situations (did a couple of meet and greets with him before too) and loves to talk.

Brad

secondhandchain
09-19-2016, 01:19 PM
How to get Stevie in the studio??? Have fun recording !!!

From her recent Huffington Post interview...

"Every other record we’ve ever done has taken at least a year. Rumors, all of the records. We have enough money where everyone goes ‘We can do whatever we want.’ And I think sometimes that really doesn’t work that well for you because you really don’t need to book every studio in the city to put FIVE THOUSAND OVERDUBS on music that is already really good. You are trying really hard to use your time wisely. You get better stuff and it is a lot more fun getting the stuff that you do get.” Nicks has had a lot of fun throughout her career and doesn’t plan on stopping anytime soon. Just when you think you have seen it all, Nicks makes sure that you haven’t seen anything yet.

Judging from her recent interviews Stevie's new outlook seems to be "If I can't have fun doing it I'm not doing it... Why waste the time I have left being miserable"

This is all A direct dig at Lindsey's recording style. He labors over songs with 5 thousand overdubs. FU stevie that's what I love about FM that they labor over stuff to make it interesting and not sound like demos. Her recent album was bland and boring and sounded like everything else she's done. SO OVER HER!!!

FuzzyPlum
09-19-2016, 01:44 PM
It was a flop. So it went platinum - no one remembers it. It had no hits that have become classics. It's forgotten. That's what I call a flop. And by 'no one' I don't mean hardcore fans like us. I mean the masses who propel albums to legendary status.

Let's get real. Whatever they put out isn't going to sell massively. If they sold as many copies as Behind The Mask did then I'd imagine they'd be absolutely delighted. As people keep saying though- at this stage it really ist about shifting large numbers of copies. They should be putting material out to appease their fans and for their artistic integrity and legacy. It's what good musicians do- create albums of original material. They'll be remembered for their music long after people have forgotten their live shows.

bwboy
09-19-2016, 01:46 PM
It was a flop. So it went platinum - no one remembers it. It had no hits that have become classics. It's forgotten. That's what I call a flop. And by 'no one' I don't mean hardcore fans like us. I mean the masses who propel albums to legendary status.

An album that sold a million copies and hit #18 and had a top 40 hit (Behind the Mask) is not the same as an album that didn't even make the top 200, sold less than 50,000 copies and had no singles that charted (Time). Say You Will didn't have any singles that charted in the top 100, but I think it may have gone gold. No one remembers it, it had no hits that have become classics, it's forgotten.

That's what I call more of a flop.

FuzzyPlum
09-19-2016, 01:49 PM
This is all A direct dig at Lindsey's recording style. He labors over songs with 5 thousand overdubs. FU stevie that's what I love about FM that they labor over stuff to make it interesting and not sound like demos. Her recent album was bland and boring and sounded like everything else she's done. SO OVER HER!!!

Actually, I get the feeling Stevie is anything but fun in the studio. Christine and Lindsey looked as if they had a great time working together on the 'recent' material they recorded. Whereas I can imagine when Stevie is in the studio everyone has to tip toe around her in fear of saying the wrong thing. She comes across these days as having the sense of humour of Pol Pot.

Yeah, I agree- Lindsey has a high attention to detail- that's what made their music truly great.

elle
09-19-2016, 02:04 PM
Funny story. We honeymooned in Maui at the beginning of August this year and went to Fleetwood's to watch Mick play with Willie K for one of the shows they were doing to celebrate the restaurant's 4th anniversary. (Incidentally, Sammy Hagar, Quest Love, and Kris Kristofferson all showed up unexpectedly too and played/sang with them [except Kris].)

Anyway, they had a raffle at the beginning, and the winner won a photo of the band in the studio working on the Say You Will album. As Mick was handing it to the winner, he explained that it was from the SYW session and referred to the album something along the lines of "not one of our greatest works." I'm paraphrasing that because I can't remember exactly what he said, but it was similar to that and clear that he didn't hold the album in high regard.

Awesome show by the way. I had never heard of Willie K before, but he was an amazing blues player and singer. Only about 50 people in the reserved seating area. Very intimate and cool. Mick always seems very appreciative of his fans in these kinds of situations (did a couple of meet and greets with him before too) and loves to talk.

Brad

Wow you were at the show when Kris was there?!?!? Talking about the legend!! Man, I'm so jealous!! Ypu didn't get to talk to him by any chance?

bwboy
09-19-2016, 03:30 PM
Funny story. We honeymooned in Maui at the beginning of August this year and went to Fleetwood's to watch Mick play with Willie K for one of the shows they were doing to celebrate the restaurant's 4th anniversary. (Incidentally, Sammy Hagar, Quest Love, and Kris Kristofferson all showed up unexpectedly too and played/sang with them [except Kris].)

Anyway, they had a raffle at the beginning, and the winner won a photo of the band in the studio working on the Say You Will album. As Mick was handing it to the winner, he explained that it was from the SYW session and referred to the album something along the lines of "not one of our greatest works." I'm paraphrasing that because I can't remember exactly what he said, but it was similar to that and clear that he didn't hold the album in high regard.

Awesome show by the way. I had never heard of Willie K before, but he was an amazing blues player and singer. Only about 50 people in the reserved seating area. Very intimate and cool. Mick always seems very appreciative of his fans in these kinds of situations (did a couple of meet and greets with him before too) and loves to talk.

Brad

That's a great story, thanks for sharing. Sounds like a good time!

jbrownsjr
09-19-2016, 05:06 PM
Funny story. We honeymooned in Maui at the beginning of August this year and went to Fleetwood's to watch Mick play with Willie K for one of the shows they were doing to celebrate the restaurant's 4th anniversary. (Incidentally, Sammy Hagar, Quest Love, and Kris Kristofferson all showed up unexpectedly too and played/sang with them [except Kris].)

Anyway, they had a raffle at the beginning, and the winner won a photo of the band in the studio working on the Say You Will album. As Mick was handing it to the winner, he explained that it was from the SYW session and referred to the album something along the lines of "not one of our greatest works." I'm paraphrasing that because I can't remember exactly what he said, but it was similar to that and clear that he didn't hold the album in high regard.

Awesome show by the way. I had never heard of Willie K before, but he was an amazing blues player and singer. Only about 50 people in the reserved seating area. Very intimate and cool. Mick always seems very appreciative of his fans in these kinds of situations (did a couple of meet and greets with him before too) and loves to talk.

Brad

Great story!! and yes it's not one of their greatest works.. it's a flop..

secondhandchain
09-19-2016, 05:06 PM
Still pissed about her "5000 overdubs" comment. A clear dis to Lindsey. She really has become a real extra piece of work. She always has but it's out of control.

Brad
09-19-2016, 05:08 PM
Wow you were at the show when Kris was there?!?!? Talking about the legend!! Man, I'm so jealous!! Ypu didn't get to talk to him by any chance?

Yeah, it was pretty cool. They kept trying to coax him up there to sing, but he was pretty adamant that he wasn't going to, so they left him alone. He did come up at the very end of the show to hug Mick. Didn't get to talk to him, unfortunately.

Here's a pic we caught at the end of him and Mick.
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b296/ckbrad98/IMG_5501.jpg (http://s21.photobucket.com/user/ckbrad98/media/IMG_5501.jpg.html)

And here he giving away the photo from the dreadful SYW sessions.
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b296/ckbrad98/IMG_5442.jpg (http://s21.photobucket.com/user/ckbrad98/media/IMG_5442.jpg.html)

jbrownsjr
09-19-2016, 06:15 PM
That's awesome, Brad. Thanks for posting!

BlueDenimLamp
09-19-2016, 06:39 PM
Still pissed about her "5000 overdubs" comment. A clear dis to Lindsey. She really has become a real extra piece of work. She always has but it's out of control.

Looks like she now owns ALL of HWW3's FM photos...More control for Stevie...:laugh:

elle
09-19-2016, 08:39 PM
Yeah, it was pretty cool. They kept trying to coax him up there to sing, but he was pretty adamant that he wasn't going to, so they left him alone. He did come up at the very end of the show to hug Mick. Didn't get to talk to him, unfortunately.

Here's a pic we caught at the end of him and Mick.
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b296/ckbrad98/IMG_5501.jpg (http://s21.photobucket.com/user/ckbrad98/media/IMG_5501.jpg.html)

What a cool experience! Thanks so much for sharing.:wavey:

Nathan
09-20-2016, 10:11 PM
Cool story! Hope we get see that SYW picture.

Macfanforever
09-20-2016, 10:27 PM
Yeah, it was pretty cool. They kept trying to coax him up there to sing, but he was pretty adamant that he wasn't going to, so they left him alone. He did come up at the very end of the show to hug Mick. Didn't get to talk to him, unfortunately.

Here's a pic we caught at the end of him and Mick.
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b296/ckbrad98/IMG_5501.jpg (http://s21.photobucket.com/user/ckbrad98/media/IMG_5501.jpg.html)

And here he giving away the photo from the dreadful SYW sessions.
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b296/ckbrad98/IMG_5442.jpg (http://s21.photobucket.com/user/ckbrad98/media/IMG_5442.jpg.html)

Thanks Brad.I always like and enjoyed Kris Kristofferson.