All Things Vinyl - Records That Is.

[iamnotafraid]

Let me announce proudly I'm back in the record business.
And it's got nothing to do with my pals Rusty and Alec.

It's all to do with having a new record player. Or if
you prefer turntable.

A few days ago a package arrived with this beautiful new
red record player inside. And not just any record player,
a Pro Ject Debut Carbon DC with the Ortofon 2M Red
cartridge.

My JVC turntable died several years ago. And there was a point
where I didn't think I'd replace it. But I did miss vinyl and all it's
attributes. Sound being most important. And then there's the
artwork which you can actually see. Along with lyric sheets, that
again you can actually read if you're over forty.

I've setup the Pro Ject turntable. And now it's time to clean all
the records old and new. Yes, even the ones still sealed will get
a cleaning. More on the cleaning supplies later. Which I know
will keep you all on pins and needles in anticipation.

____________________________________________

A Positive Thread...
First and foremost I want this thread to be positive. Not about
politics or anything else that can cause grief.

I hope others will post about new vinyl purchases or what you've
listened to today. And feel free to post what type of system you're
using to playback your precious vinyl.
____________________________________________

I'd like to thank Mr. Jack White and Michael Fremer for
getting me back in the business.

I'll start posting about my new and old albums as they're played
(or cleaned - yikes). I hope you all will do the same.

[becca]

I've had my ex-DJ bros vintage Technics and Toshiba turntables to play with for years but sadly his mixer was busted long ago which I used to make some sweet mixtapes with 'back in the day (when casettes ruled the world). I've managed to keep one of the direct drive turntables working (Toshiba SR255), and I also have a lower budget RCA belt driven turntable with built in pre-amp which still seems to work after dragging it by boat from Alaska several years ago. What I do with vinyl I want to listen to a lot is to transfer it direct to a CD-R with either a Lite-On DVD/audio recorder through RCA jacks, or the pro Tascam CDRW-5000 burner. Then I edit on PC in wav format with Nero if I need to remove a click or it's just a crap piece of vinyl to start with and I'm desperate. I do as little messing with as I can past cleaning the record under scrutiny.

I have some old DJ cleaner fluid with a fuzzy black padded thing on wood for cleaning, no idea where the original packaging went. Except for crap vinyl I use a mild soap and water solution just to see what it sounds like. I don't go through all this as much as I used to but I still do projects for friends.

I have hundreds of LPs and 45s, my BF has even more. I do tend toward playing the CD-R copies (with nice inserts showing the LP or 7" graphics such as they may be), but do enjoy having vinyl sessions, especially of modern Sundazed and Norton type reissues and various small label new releases like State/13 O'Clock, Acid Jazz, Market Square, Dionysus etc.

:]

I have most Fleetwood Mac on vinyl by the way, some I've had since the 1970s. I don't have some of the Welch era or past Mirage on vinyl though. I have various solo/related things like Mick's The Visitor and agree the large liners and art are great for something important to you. I'd have to keep the 1975 LP for the great lyrics and penguin cartoons insert, and the same for the Rumours photos foldout! The quality of the Then Play On artwork and inside photo hasn't been quite all there in the two CD versions I've gotten of it so have to keep that around.

[iamnotafraid]

I have some old DJ cleaner fluid with a fuzzy black padded thing on wood for cleaning... Except for crap vinyl I use a mild soap and water solution just to see what it sounds like.

Thanks for responding Becca. I was afraid this thread
would be DOA.

I'm curious to whether you use distilled water for cleaning?
And what type of soap?

I'm hoping to get all my supplies this week. But there's so
much to do.

[becca]

I have water that's been well boiled for drinking (I'm hyper-sensitive to chlorine) and I use that with a very tiny amount of dish soap but that's just on your cheap bargain bin records that are dirty and I might use the proper cleaning fluid later and the nicer turntable and needle. There used to be a website put together by eBay music fans called The Roadhouse that had some good stuff about cleaning vinyl, even de-warping but I've never been very successful with that.

I also used to do old 78s on a turntable of my Father's with it's special wider needle for those grooves. Only a few of them have ever shown up on offical CD. They needed a lot of cleaning and help from the PC de-clicking and de-hissing and I made two cool CD-Rs; one with blues and early rock stuff and the other with western swing, yodelling and hillbilly boogie bop type stuff. I mention it as it was a Father's Day project but I liked it as much as he did. This year I did a latter-day Carter Family compilation for him that is a bit rare.

[Macfanforever]

I love vinyl and never got rid of anything here,I still have my original turntables along with the records as most thrown them in the rubbish when those little shiny 5 inch disks came out..

[SisterNightroad]

I'm very envious of you guys who can afford record players... I've decided long ago that when I grow up I'll save money to buy one, and then I'll buy all the deluxe reissues that all these years I could see only in my dreams. Fleetwood Mac and Peter Gabriel would be the first.

My parents have a little collection of vinyls even if not royally preserved because they used to own a portable record player. We have a lot of classic Italian acts, mainly singer-songwriters, then some English acts. My mother used to have an important first edition of a Beatles album but our evil aunt stole it. It should be some thousands Euros worth now.

My bestfriend's family owns an amazing classic rock vinyl collection with all the most important albums by the most classic acts, from Led Zeppelin to Smashing Pumpkins, and they have a relatively new Player. They say that in Italy there's no way to have replacement parts and when they need a needle they have to order it from Germany.
When I gave to my bestfriend the LP of David Bowie's Station to station for her graduation, along with a bottle of sweet wine made by my father, they listened to it in their living room sipping the wine.

[Macfanforever]

I'm very envious of you guys who can afford record players... I've decided long ago that when I grow up I'll save money to buy one, and then I'll buy all the deluxe reissues that all these years I could see only in my dreams. Fleetwood Mac and Peter Gabriel would be the first.

My parents have a little collection of vinyls even if not royally preserved because they used to own a portable record player. We have a lot of classic Italian acts, mainly singer-songwriters, then some English acts. My mother used to have an important first edition of a Beatles album but our evil aunt stole it. It should be some thousands Euros worth now.

My bestfriend's family owns an amazing classic rock vinyl collection with all the most important albums by the most classic acts, from Led Zeppelin to Smashing Pumpkins, and they have a relatively new Player. They say that in Italy there's no way to have replacement parts and when they need a needle they have to order it from Germany.
When I gave to my bestfriend the LP of David Bowie's Station to station for her graduation, along with a bottle of sweet wine made by my father, they listened to it in their living room sipping the wine.

I'm glad that I did not have to buy the current overpriced turntables.They are nuts for overcharging.Also some sound like crap.You might be lucky to find a 30 to 40 year year old good name brand names turn tables like Technics,BSR,Garrard and other original top makes for 25 to 50 Euros at a fleamarkets or tag sales in your area .You always can bicker them down on price there. Yes I understand the need for parts.Most needles,cartridges Idler tires,pulleys and belts can be found online.

Also can check these forums out for the technical stuff for you geek Ledgies like me..

http://www.audiokarma.org/forums/index.php?forums/turntables.28/

http://www.antiqueradios.com/forums/viewforum.php?f=9

http://www.tapeheads.net/forumdisplay.php?f=20

http://videokarma.org/forumdisplay.php?f=178

http://www.vinylengine.com/

Free service manuals and instructions can be requested on these forums.

http://www.freeservicemanuals.net/index.asp

You have to join to download there .200 manuals downloads per day.

http://elektrotanya.com

plus

http://freeservicemanuals.info/en/

Just search the brand name and download it.they have a limit of 2 manuals per day there.


I'm a member of all or them and there's alot of free info on these forums to help anybody in need.

Have fun and keep the vinyl spinning..................................................................

[iamnotafraid]

Becca,
I'm just trying to get different recipes for cleaning
vinyl. I'll be trying different mixes of this and that
on my older vinyl. I have Spin-Clean fluid for my
new vinyl.

I don't have many 78's. The only one I can think of
is by Hank Williams.

Speaking of The Carter Family. If you have Netflix
there's a new documentary about them called The
Winding Stream. I haven't seen it yet.

Macfanforever,
I kept most of my vinyl too. Gave away a few records
that I'd never care to listen to again.

Of the turntables you own which is your favorite?

SisterNightroad,
I've been slowly planning my return to vinyl for quite
awhile now. It just takes time. You'll get there. I've
been buying new records for a couple of years. And
with each one it's encouraged me to keep the dream
alive.

I care too much about details. So it took me a very
long time to decide which turntable to get. I kind of
wish I were different. It can get expensive before you
know it. My only advice on which turntable to get would
be one that doesn't hurt your records. As in too heavy of
the tracking force. Analog Planet is also a good website to
read about vinyl and such.

You mentioned Bowie. I have a first pressing of his latest
release. I think I ordered it right before or just after he died.
It sold out quickly.

[Macfanforever]

Becca,
I'm just trying to get different recipes for cleaning
vinyl. I'll be trying different mixes of this and that
on my older vinyl. I have Spin-Clean fluid for my
new vinyl.

I don't have many 78's. The only one I can think of
is by Hank Williams.

Speaking of The Carter Family. If you have Netflix
there's a new documentary about them called The
Winding Stream. I haven't seen it yet.

Macfanforever,
I kept most of my vinyl too. Gave away a few records
that I'd never care to listen to again.

Of the turntables you own which is your favorite?

SisterNightroad,
I've been slowly planning my return to vinyl for quite
awhile now. It just takes time. You'll get there. I've
been buying new records for a couple of years. And
with each one it's encouraged me to keep the dream
alive.

I care too much about details. So it took me a very
long time to decide which turntable to get. I kind of
wish I were different. It can get expensive before you
know it. My only advice on which turntable to get would
be one that doesn't hurt your records. As in too heavy of
the tracking force. Analog Planet is also a good website to
read about vinyl and such.

You mentioned Bowie. I have a first pressing of his latest
release. I think I ordered it right before or just after he died.
It sold out quickly.

I have my late fathers Garrard here which is almost is old as I am.I have tons of others here since I repair and collect them .

I learned this from my friend about 35 plus years ago which is a radio DJ. I clean my vinyl with room temp water with mild dish soap to get the oily finger prints ,food stains ,beverage spills , dirt and dust off.Don't use hot water.It will warp it.Let air dry.

Oh .I love the classic country artists and bands.I have tons on vinyl.Too many to list.

[iamnotafraid]

Haven't had time to pick up the rest of my
cleaning supplies. But I received something
special today...

Jack White Acoustic In Idaho 2XLP
Recorded at Boise's Egyptian Theater last
year on White's five state acoustic tour.

The set includes a DVD from his show in
Anchorage Alaska. A picture book and a
few special photos thrown in too. Icing on
the cake I suppose.

[iamnotafraid]

Picked up a few supplies finally.

This is turning in to a big project.
Because where I store my vinyl is
involved.

Who wants to help?

[Macfanforever]

Picked up a few supplies finally.

This is turning in to a big project.
Because where I store my vinyl is
involved.

Who wants to help?

Thats great.

My friend down the street which gave me 100's and 100's of vinyl already is at it again dumping his extras and dups that he dont want on me last week.

Alot of classic Christmas music albums in this batch including Gene Autry's "Here Comes Santa Clause" and " Rudolph The Red Nosed Reindeer" on 78 RPM records.It was great to hear the hiss and snap crackle pop playing those two records.

I got to get a new needle for my TT since its shot.

[iamnotafraid]

Thats great.

Thanks Skip.

Man you must have thousands of vinyl records.

There's no telling how many millions of records
that Gene Autry record sold. Cool pickup.

_________________________________

I got a little exciting news tonight. My uncle is in
town on a visit. And he brought me something. He
said it was on the SUN record label. I'm pretty sure
it's not Elvis, but I'm still excited to see who it is.

I think this will make my 4,000th post. Never would
have believed I'd have that many lies, um... I mean stories
to tell.

[iamnotafraid]

The Sun Records were:

Jerry Lee Lewis - High School Confidential / Fools Like Me

Billy Riley - Red Hot / Pearly Lee

[Macfanforever]

Thanks Skip.

Man you must have thousands of vinyl records.

There's no telling how many millions of records
that Gene Autry record sold. Cool pickup.

_________________________________

I got a little exciting news tonight. My uncle is in
town on a visit. And he brought me something. He
said it was on the SUN record label. I'm pretty sure
it's not Elvis, but I'm still excited to see who it is.

I think this will make my 4,000th post. Never would
have believed I'd have that many lies, um... I mean stories
to tell.

I lost count and worrying about the floor caving in and my back going out altogether..This is not counting the Stevie/FM records. I have the one sided Rudolph 78rpm somewhere here.4.000 post .My 10,000 is coming soon.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun_Records

Elvis was on Sun. It could be Carl Perkins, Roy Orbison, Jerry Lee Lewis or Johnny Cash.I take any since I love all of their music.

[Macfanforever]

The Sun Records were:

Jerry Lee Lewis - High School Confidential / Fools Like Me

Billy Riley - Red Hot / Pearly Lee

I cant remember Billy Riley but JLL is a classic.

Magic of YouTube.........................

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[iamnotafraid]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun_Records

Elvis was on Sun. It could be Carl Perkins, Roy Orbison, Jerry Lee Lewis or Johnny Cash.I take any since I love all of their music.

It's hard to imagine all that talent in the little
studio there in Memphis.

I'd YouTubed what my uncle gave me. Those
45's were in really bad shape. But still cool to
have.

[Macfanforever]

It's hard to imagine all that talent in the little
studio there in Memphis.

I'd YouTubed what my uncle gave me. Those
45's were in really bad shape. But still cool to
have.

I agree .Just having the physical copy is an honor .

[iamnotafraid]

A night of preparation of vinyl cleaning supplies.

Sometimes I wish I could do things the simple way.
Most people would just buy a record player. Play the
record and just enjoy.

Not I said the cat.

[Macfanforever]

Doing this for years .I just wash them with warm water .Sometime use light dish soap to get the fingerprint,soil,dust and beverage/food spills off it and let air dry.

[iamnotafraid]

Doing this for years .I just wash them with warm water .Sometime use light dish soap to get the fingerprint,soil,dust and beverage/food spills off it and let air dry.

You might be right.

[iamnotafraid]

Dear Diary,

Well not really, but it seems like this thread is revealing
more about myself that any of my posts or threads ever
have. That's not necessarily a good thing.

On with subject...

I used the Spin-Clean system for cleaning about five albums
now. And after following the directions I'd have to say I'm
not impressed.

As a matter of fact, even though it "cleaned" the records
it introduced an extraordinary amount of static to the discs.
Very disappointing.

So here's the first few disc I've cleaned and listened to:

Dwight Yoakam - Second Hand Heart
Shelby Lynne - Just A Little Lovin'
White Stripes - White Blood Cells
No Doubt - Tragic Kingdom
Linda Ronstadt - Get Closer

And a five album set with 100 Greatest Songs of
the Fifties (can't remember it's exact name). I tried
a different method of cleaning these that worked
better than the Spin-Clean. More about that later.

Monday I should receive an anti static gun. A Milty
Anti-Stat 3 (I believe). I will see how it works and
report back.

[iamnotafraid]

To anyone reading this. If you get nothing more from
my thread than this, it is to...

Buy yourself a MILTY ZEROSTAT 3 ANIT-STATIC GUN.

Although it cost usually between $75 and $100 dollars.
I'd say it is worth every penny.

I'll admit after planning to get back to vinyl for a few years
now. That I was depressed by what I was hearing. It had
been so long since I listened to vinyl that I was wondering if
I'd sort of romanced the idea of it. And wound up fooling myself.

That crackling sound I was hearing, had it always been there?
I'm not talking about the clicks and pops one would expect
from scratches on the vinyl.

Was it my equipment? Cleaning solutions, or my applications
of it? It's easy to understand why cleaning a record would induce
static electricity. But could it really be the reason I was hearing
that horrible sound?

Well, turns out it definitely was. I can't tell you how relieved I
was. After receiving the anti-static gun Monday I anxiously used
it (proper use takes practice). And on the very first listen I could
tell the difference. What a relief!

The other major thing I did was to replace the Pro Ject Carbon's
felt mat with a rubber mat from my old JVC turntable. It was also
contributing to the build up of static electricity. You could tell by
the way the felt mat wanted to lift every time you removed the
vinyl from the platter.

For whatever reason my body seems to carry some sort of odd
electrical current. Sounds like a joke, but it's true. If there's
someone who's going to get shocked or give one - it's me. So
that was the other contributing factor in all of this.

'Tis crazy this hobby.

[iamnotafraid]

I've noticed so far that my older albums, meaning the ones
bought back in the 1980's or before are sounding better than
many of the newly pressed vinyl releases.

The record companies better correct this or the vinyl resurgence
will be over before you know it.

Next up for me is a little sheetrock work and paint. My new and
old vinyl needs proper storage.

Same bat time, same bat channel...

[iamnotafraid]

Next up for me is a little sheetrock work and paint. My new and
old vinyl needs proper storage.

Thanks to an ex the work has been delayed.
What a pain!

[iamnotafraid]

This closet where most of the vinyl will be stored
needs a little pizzazz. Right now it's all white paint.
But TMR's colors are yellow and black. Hmm...?

[iamnotafraid]

Finally acquired Led Zeppelin's first four albums on vinyl.
The remastered versions of course.

I had picked up Physical Graffiti several months ago.

[iamnotafraid]

This thread isn't exactly about announcing new releases but...

Jack White Acoustic Recordings 1998 - 2016
Due September 9, 2016.

Any guess on who'll have both vinyl and CD versions?
One hint - me!

[KarmaContestant]

To anyone reading this. If you get nothing more from
my thread than this, it is to...

Buy yourself a MILTY ZEROSTAT 3 ANIT-STATIC GUN.

Although it cost usually between $75 and $100 dollars.
I'd say it is worth every penny.

I'll admit after planning to get back to vinyl for a few years
now. That I was depressed by what I was hearing. It had
been so long since I listened to vinyl that I was wondering if
I'd sort of romanced the idea of it. And wound up fooling myself.

That crackling sound I was hearing, had it always been there?
I'm not talking about the clicks and pops one would expect
from scratches on the vinyl.

Was it my equipment? Cleaning solutions, or my applications
of it? It's easy to understand why cleaning a record would induce
static electricity. But could it really be the reason I was hearing
that horrible sound?

Well, turns out it definitely was. I can't tell you how relieved I
was. After receiving the anti-static gun Monday I anxiously used
it (proper use takes practice). And on the very first listen I could
tell the difference. What a relief!

The other major thing I did was to replace the Pro Ject Carbon's
felt mat with a rubber mat from my old JVC turntable. It was also
contributing to the build up of static electricity. You could tell by
the way the felt mat wanted to lift every time you removed the
vinyl from the platter.

For whatever reason my body seems to carry some sort of odd
electrical current. Sounds like a joke, but it's true. If there's
someone who's going to get shocked or give one - it's me. So
that was the other contributing factor in all of this.

'Tis crazy this hobby.

Get yourself a carbon fiber brush, too, if you haven't one. They're anti-static and they clean your records. It is essential, in my opinion. Like this one:

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=&sku=966397&gclid=CKLxspSQxc4CFQOMaQod0AwCqw&is=REG&ap=y&m=Y&c3api=1876%2C92051677562%2C&A=details&Q=

This video shows the brush being moved to the edge, but I always slide mine towards the center label, as suggested by the guys at the store where I bought it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_n36kUZTo3s

[iamnotafraid]

Get yourself a carbon fiber brush, too, if you haven't one. They're anti-static and they clean your records. It is essential, in my opinion.

Absolutely. I have a Audioquest carbon fiber brush.

[becca]

I'm starting to get excited in anticipation of the 2 lp Gene Clark demos set due to ship in September! Like Sandy Denny and a few others he has grown on me over time to become one of my all-time favorite artists (he was a founding member of The Byrds). Like Stevie Nicks, Sandy Denny and Bob Dylan his lyrics are metaphorical and personal, and unlike Bob (sorry) what a voice! Wow. Can't get enough.

http://sierrarecords.goestores.com/storename/sierrarecords/ViewDept-269908.aspx

http://sierrarecords.goestores.com/storename/sierrarecords/dept/269908/ItemDetail-11526540.aspx

[iamnotafraid]

I'm starting to get excited in anticipation of the 2 lp Gene Clark demos set due to ship in September!

Welcome back stranger.

I've got a feeling if we didn't live a million miles away
from each other that I'd be coming over to listen to your
vinyl.

[iamnotafraid]

A great vinyl day...

Linda Ronstadt Simple Dreams (Mobile Fidelity)

Linda Ronstadt Hasten Down The Wind (Mobile Fidelity)

Linda Ronstadt Prisoner In Disguise (Mobile Fidelity)

And the Analogue Productions version of...

Shelby Lynne Just A Little Lovin'


Can't wait to play them when I have the time!

[Macfanforever]

A great vinyl day...

Linda Ronstadt Simple Dreams (Mobile Fidelity)

Linda Ronstadt Hasten Down The Wind (Mobile Fidelity)

Linda Ronstadt Prisoner In Disguise (Mobile Fidelity)

And the Analogue Productions version of...

Shelby Lynne Just A Little Lovin'


Can't wait to play them when I have the time!

Great albums.My back is killing me after moving 1000's of records around the last few days.

[iamnotafraid]

Great albums.My back is killing me after moving 1000's of records around the last few days.

Thanks. I've wanted those Ronstadt vinyl albums for a long time.
The Shelby Lynne album is supposed to sound better than the other
pressings.

1000's of albums? New pickups or just rearranging them?

[Macfanforever]

Thanks. I've wanted those Ronstadt vinyl albums for a long time.
The Shelby Lynne album is supposed to sound better than the other
pressings.

1000's of albums? New pickups or just rearranging them?

Nothing new .Just moving all of then into one area.

I got some FM on (Mobile Fidelity).

[iamnotafraid]

Just moving all of then into one area.

That can be a pain. This week I start a similar process.

[iamnotafraid]

Another day, another vinyl album...

Linda Ronstadt Mad Love (still sealed)

That completes my Ronstadt list.

[iamnotafraid]

Diana Krall Christmas Songs is due today.
Me likes.

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A word of caution about collecting vinyl. Hopefully this
feeling will pass, but right now I'm kind of regretting my
return to vinyl.

I love the artwork. The sound can be better than CD's.
But everything has to be right.

I can't make up my mind if it's a good thing for OCD, or does
it cause OCD?

My compulsion has always been to chase the perfect sound.
I envy everyone that can just play an album on any system
without the process I go through.

Chase something you can catch.

[Macfanforever]

Check your Goodwill and Salvation Army stores out.They usually have a good vinyl collections there.Today for 99 cents I picked up a 1970's country music completion album set with 6 lp's in great condition.It you buy plenty .You are helping other people.

[iamnotafraid]

Check your Goodwill and Salvation Army stores out.They usually have a good vinyl collections there.Today for 99 cents I picked up a 1970's country music completion album set with 6 lp's in great condition.It you buy plenty .You are helping other people.

Sounds like a good idea. Though I don't have one of those
stores near me. Maybe 40 miles or so.

Diana's album arrived today with a bonus. The cover was
bent due to total lack of caring about packaging. I won't say
the name of the retailer, but there's a forest with a very similar
name.

[KarmaContestant]

A word of caution about collecting vinyl. Hopefully this
feeling will pass, but right now I'm kind of regretting my
return to vinyl.

I love the artwork. The sound can be better than CD's.
But everything has to be right.

I can't make up my mind if it's a good thing for OCD, or does
it cause OCD?

My compulsion has always been to chase the perfect sound.
I envy everyone that can just play an album on any system
without the process I go through.

Chase something you can catch.

It just takes a balance. The all-or-nothing approach doesn't work with music when the best sound is what you are after. Some artists/labels/genres sound better on CD. Some sound better on vinyl. For instance, I'd *never* buy Depeche Mode on vinyl because it's music largely created with digital instruments. Also, some labels and some bands always release terrible digital-to-vinyl pressings that sound bad on any system. It can be hit or miss.

In other news.....

I pre-ordered the new Regina Spektor album that released on September 30. It was a 2LP, clear vinyl pressing with a lithograph and bonus tracks.

It arrived with the "CLEAR VINYL" sticker on it. But...it was black vinyl. I was super annoyed at first, so I wrote to Warner and let them know. Turns out, all off the copies that were supposed to be clear were pressed in black by mistake, so Warner is sending out new copies in clear vinyl to everyone who pre-ordered it. In the end, I get two for the price of one, and I'm ok with that.

[Macfanforever]

Sounds like a good idea. Though I don't have one of those
stores near me. Maybe 40 miles or so.

Diana's album arrived today with a bonus. The cover was
bent due to total lack of caring about packaging. I won't say
the name of the retailer, but there's a forest with a very similar
name.

Wow you got to travel .Thats to bad that Diana K got ruined.Yes .Lack of packing there.

It just takes a balance. The all-or-nothing approach doesn't work with music when the best sound is what you are after. Some artists/labels/genres sound better on CD. Some sound better on vinyl. For instance, I'd *never* buy Depeche Mode on vinyl because it's music largely created with digital instruments. Also, some labels and some bands always release terrible digital-to-vinyl pressings that sound bad on any system. It can be hit or miss.

In other news.....

I pre-ordered the new Regina Spektor album that released on September 30. It was a 2LP, clear vinyl pressing with a lithograph and bonus tracks.

It arrived with the "CLEAR VINYL" sticker on it. But...it was black vinyl. I was super annoyed at first, so I wrote to Warner and let them know. Turns out, all off the copies that were supposed to be clear were pressed in black by mistake, so Warner is sending out new copies in clear vinyl to everyone who pre-ordered it. In the end, I get two for the price of one, and I'm ok with that.

Yes .I agree.Some of the later artists and bands dont sound great on vinyl as my friend said.Also I doubt much that Stevie and other older artists did not use the old 24 track analog recorders anymore to produce their latest vinyl albums.

I found these YT videos interesting.

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[iamnotafraid]

It just takes a balance. The all-or-nothing approach doesn't work with music when the best sound is what you are after. Also, some labels and some bands always release terrible digital-to-vinyl pressings that sound bad on any system. It can be hit or miss.

I pre-ordered the new Regina Spektor album that released on September 30. It was a 2LP, clear vinyl pressing with a lithograph and bonus tracks...

Balance and all or nothing, sounds like you're reading me
pretty good. I think I need a life coach.

You're so right some titles are hit or miss. One of my new
acquisitions Prisoner In Disguise by Linda Ronstadt from
Mobile Fidelity really let me down soundwise. A premium priced
album (and a great one regarding the music) but failed the listening
test.

Sounds like you might have a collectors item with the new
Regina Spektor album. The name sounds familiar with one
I recently purchased. Ronnie Spector's English Heart signed
by Mrs. Spector. Not a bad album. I'll have to research Regina.

[iamnotafraid]

Wow you got to travel .Thats to bad that Diana K got ruined.Yes .Lack of packing there.

Yes .I agree.Some of the later artists and bands dont sound great on vinyl as my friend said.Also I doubt much that Stevie and other older artists did not use the old 24 track analog recorders anymore to produce their latest vinyl albums.

I found these YT videos interesting.

Yes, I live far away from EVERYTHING!

Diana K's replacement album arrived today. The cover
wasn't damaged but the vinyl inside had too many little
scratches. But where there's not scratches it sounds like
vinyl should.

I've watched some of those videos about vinyl being made.
I have many of the Jack White records. The only thing I
hate is his choice of record pressing plants. If you look in
the dead wax area and see a circled U that's a bad sign.
United Records - I loathe them.

[Macfanforever]

Yes, I live far away from EVERYTHING!

Diana K's replacement album arrived today. The cover
wasn't damaged but the vinyl inside had too many little
scratches. But where there's not scratches it sounds like
vinyl should.

I've watched some of those videos about vinyl being made.
I have many of the Jack White records. The only thing I
hate is his choice of record pressing plants. If you look in
the dead wax area and see a circled U that's a bad sign.
United Records - I loathe them.

I see.Travel to everything.
Thanks for the tips on United.Too bad your D.K. album replacement is bad.Did United press Stevie's IYD and 24K vinyls. I'm to lazy to look.LOL

[iamnotafraid]

Did United press Stevie's IYD and 24K vinyls. I'm to lazy to look.LOL

I don't think IYD has been released on vinyl has it?

I'll check on the 24K.

[Macfanforever]

I don't think IYD has been released on vinyl has it?

I'll check on the 24K.

At this point Dahhh.Brainfart" LOL.I dont remember if IYD was on vinyl.Sorry if I'm wrong.

[iamnotafraid]

Did United press Stevie's 24K vinyls. I'm to lazy to look.LOL

I just checked. United did not press the vinyl.
At least not my copy.

______________________________

Cleaned 60+ vinyl records the past couple of
days. Replaced the old paper sleeves with Mo-
Fi sleeves.

Still working on the static issue. Things seem
a little better. Too many steps to list.

[becca]

Generally I could care less about the color of the vinyl, just the quality of it, but it seems to be a big selling point with a lot of people today.

Still waiting on that Gene Clark set, I guess the pressing plants are more backlogged than planned for.

[KarmaContestant]

Generally I could care less about the color of the vinyl, just the quality of it, but it seems to be a big selling point with a lot of people today.


I do love colored vinyl. :nod: Obviously - the quality of sound is key, but if there is a colored version to choose, I'll always choose it over the black. I suppose it's just for the novelty of it.

[Macfanforever]

I just checked. United did not press the vinyl.
At least not my copy.

______________________________

Cleaned 60+ vinyl records the past couple of
days. Replaced the old paper sleeves with Mo-
Fi sleeves.

Still working on the static issue. Things seem
a little better. Too many steps to list.


Wow .You got your work cut out for you.I need new sleeves here.
Thanks for checking.I doubt much if she used different pressing plants for the album.

Generally I could care less about the color of the vinyl, just the quality of it, but it seems to be a big selling point with a lot of people today.

Still waiting on that Gene Clark set, I guess the pressing plants are more backlogged than planned for.


Yes .The quality is the key.

I do love colored vinyl. :nod: Obviously - the quality of sound is key, but if there is a colored version to choose, I'll always choose it over the black. I suppose it's just for the novelty of it.


I love colored vinyl too.I would love to see Stevie's BD and Wildheart albums in purple.As long the sound quality does not suffer.

[KarmaContestant]

I love colored vinyl too.I would love to see Stevie's BD and Wildheart albums in purple.As long the sound quality does not suffer.

So - consider this - vinyl is clear. It has to be colored black. Thus there is no difference between black records and purple records, as far as the sound quality is concerned, based strictly on the vinyl. The only variances in quality will come in the process of mastering or pressing.

[iamnotafraid]

Wow .You got your work cut out for you.I need new sleeves here.
Thanks for checking.I doubt much if she used different pressing plants for the album.

No problem. I wasn't familiar with the symbol I found in
the dead wax area. I guess I'm slipping. I suppose I could
Google it.

________________________________________

Elvis Moody Blue
This was my first colored vinyl. I believe it was released
about a month before he died. And it was the first record
I played after his death. And that was a hard thing to do.

[Macfanforever]

So - consider this - vinyl is clear. It has to be colored black. Thus there is no difference between black records and purple records, as far as the sound quality is concerned, based strictly on the vinyl. The only variances in quality will come in the process of mastering or pressing.

Thanks for the tip.Karma.

[Macfanforever]

No problem. I wasn't familiar with the symbol I found in
the dead wax area. I guess I'm slipping. I suppose I could
Google it.

________________________________________

Elvis Moody Blue
This was my first colored vinyl. I believe it was released
about a month before he died. And it was the first record
I played after his death. And that was a hard thing to do.

Wow.Elvis color vinyl.I got a few here and I got the Mac on white vinyl here.
I got some reds and yellows and maybe green in the mass vinyl collection that I got from my neighbor down the street.

I do have some picture disks here somewhere.

[iamnotafraid]

I do have some picture disks here somewhere.

I only have one picture disc. Elvis of course.

Jack White's "Vault" (TMR) does the color vinyl with
most every release. Only problem is that it's pressed
from UNITED! But from what I understand he's opening
up his own pressing plant in Detroit. I anxiously await.
______________________________________

Can anyone tell that I really love music???

[Macfanforever]

I only have one picture disc. Elvis of course.

Jack White's "Vault" (TMR) does the color vinyl with
most every release. Only problem is that it's pressed
from UNITED! But from what I understand he's opening
up his own pressing plant in Detroit. I anxiously await.
______________________________________

Can anyone tell that I really love music???

Wow again.Elvis.The picture disc I know I have is a Disney one from the big vinyl dump that my neighbor drop off over here .I know there is more somewhere here.Yes I love music .Old music that is.

Tonight at the Goodwill I picked up two 4 album sets of classic country music collections from the early 1970's.Great shape and a great price of $1.99 per set.

[iamnotafraid]

Wow again.Elvis.

Tonight at the Goodwill I picked up two 4 album sets of classic country music collections from the early 1970's.Great shape and a great price of $1.99 per set.

Yeah, there's lots of Elvis at my house.

On those Country Sets do they have any Marty Robbins?
He's one of my favorites too.

[KarmaContestant]

Did anyone here preorder the Bella Donna or Wild Heart vinyl remasters? If so, I'd love to hear if there's anything notable about them once they arrive.

[Macfanforever]

Yeah, there's lots of Elvis at my house.

On those Country Sets do they have any Marty Robbins?
He's one of my favorites too.

Yes .I love Marty Robbins too.I think there was El Paso and White Sports Coat .I got the 50th CMA awards on now and its great to hear the classic tunes then the current crop of so called country music.

[Macfanforever]

As I was at the local mall today.I stopped into FYE and see they have a vinyl Rumours there for $21.00 bucks.Maybe I should set up a popup shop at the Mohegan Sun casino early of the day of Stevie's show there with all my extra copies of my Stevie/FM vinyl.I probably would make a killing .

[iamnotafraid]

Did anyone here preorder the Bella Donna or Wild Heart vinyl remasters? If so, I'd love to hear if there's anything notable about them once they arrive.

You know I did!

[iamnotafraid]

A few new vinyl albums I've picked up over the past week or so...

Stevie Nicks Wild Heart (2 copies, as one was damaged).

Stevie Nicks Bella Donna

I've only had a short amount of time to listen to side one of Wild Heart.

Elvis Presley Showroom Internationale (2 LP set)

Recorded August 12, 1970. The show hadn't been released in full
until recently. Excellent cover shot. I'm really looking forward to
a serious listening session with this one.

[becca]

This is the Elvis set I'm thinking seriously about now...

http://www.memphisrecordingservice.com/mrsms.htm

The Gene Clark set is finally on it's way, supposedly upgraded to 200g vinyl from 180g which seems more than heavy enough. I'm not sure what those mid 70s RCA flexidisc things were, 60g? Those things was weird, flopped around then sprang back flat.

[iamnotafraid]

This is the Elvis set I'm thinking seriously about now...

http://www.memphisrecordingservice.com/mrsms.htm

The Gene Clark set is finally on it's way, supposedly upgraded to 200g vinyl from 180g which seems more than heavy enough. I'm not sure what those mid 70s RCA flexidisc things were, 60g? Those things was weird, flopped around then sprang back flat.

I hear good things about those MRS releases. The only
complaints are from mostly hypocrites who own many
Elvis bootlegs and yet complain about these not being
legitimate releases.

I'm not sure the thicker vinyl makes for a better sounding
record. For me the 180g is enough. More than that I start
wondering about the height of the tonearm. I have many
of those flexidisc. By the time I was old enough to buy records
the industry had gone to that unfortunately.

[becca]

I think the Memphis Recording Service releases are properly licensed for sale in Europe at least, like the German Bear Family label releases. They do a great job in quality but they are pretty expensive items to import unfortunately.

[iamnotafraid]

I think the Memphis Recording Service releases are properly licensed for sale in Europe at least...

I think you're right. Guess the Public Domain is the difference.

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STEVIE NICKS BELLA DONNA

Finally got a chance to do a serious listen to this late tonight.
As with all my new vinyl I look at it carefully using a bright
lamp to see if there are any imperfections in the vinyl. I saw
no scratches or scuffs.

As I'm listening to side one, I'm impressed. The vinyl
is quiet. Much more so than many of my "new" records.
I didn't compare it to my original copy as I have not cleaned
it yet. But I did like the sound I heard.

Then side two... PROBLEM

Happy with my new vinyl copy until Leather and Lace.
Some odd distorted crackling through much of the song.
As I listened to the rest of the album I didn't notice any
other problems of that sort. My hopes of a perfect album
came crumbling down. Again with the lamp test, and still
I couldn't see any marks on the vinyl.

Curious to whether any of you have the same problem on
side two?.

[becca]

I still have the original pressing of Bella Donna from when it first came out and after wearing out a cassette copy or two made it into the CD age without the need to get vinyl over again. Same for Mirage. There's been a real increase in demand for vinyl and I think fine details can get lost in the rush sometimes.

[iamnotafraid]

There's been a real increase in demand for vinyl and I think fine details can get lost in the rush sometimes.

Becca, I think you hit the nail on the head.

_____________________________

I purchased a Neoteck turntable stylus
force gauge tester. At only $11.00 a very
nice gadget for someone like me.

Btw, I was soooo close on the recommended
tracking weight.

[iamnotafraid]

A few new records I picked up this week...

Roy Orbison The Ultimate Collection (Sony Legacy)

What a fantastic collection of songs. A truly remarkable singer.
I would recommend this set to anyone who loves music. Besides
a few scratches on side A, the vinyl is one of the better sounding
of all the new records I've purchased. At times it seemed Mr. O
was sitting in the room with me. I've never heard Blue Bayou
sound so good. Chill bumps.

Elvis Presley Way Down In The Jungle Room (Sony Legacy)

A nice selection of songs from the last sessions Elvis recorded at
Graceland. A little salty language that surprised me was left on
here as he's still working through the songs with his band. I've heard
him use this type language before but not on a release for the general
public. But he's in a good mood here and puts on some very good
performances. Disproves some of the tall tales I'd always heard about
these recording sessions. I have most of the outtakes already from
these same sessions, but this set sounds very different from anything
I've heard before. And except for a few scratches here and there the
vinyl sounds good.

Jack White Acoustic Recordings 1996 - 2016

Haven't got a chance to listen to the vinyl yet (I have the CD)
but it looks like another quality job from United Record Pressing
NOT! Even though I didn't see the circled "U" in the dead wax,
it sure looked of URP. That doesn't guarantee a bad sounding
record, but it doesn't bold well. I've been down this road with
too many of their pressings. Will report back when I've had
time to do a serious listen.

[shackin'up]

Jack White Acoustic Recordings 1996 - 2016

Haven't got a chance to listen to the vinyl yet (I have the CD)
but it looks like another quality job from United Record Pressing
NOT! Even though I didn't see the circled "U" in the dead wax,
it sure looked of URP. That doesn't guarantee a bad sounding
record, but it doesn't bold well. I've been down this road with
too many of their pressings. Will report back when I've had
time to do a serious listen.

Mine sounds awesome.

[iamnotafraid]

Mine sounds awesome.

Good to know!

[Macfanforever]

On this past Wednesday I received two milk crates of albums from my friend down the street.Too bad there is no Stevie and Mac in this batch.Most were great R&B artists from the 60's,70's and 1980's like the Donna Summer,Patrice Rushen,Commodores,Minnie Riperton .Isaac Hayes.Chaka Khan and more. .Plus classic pop rock like Peter Frampton ,Beatles ,Chicago,Bruce Springsteen ,Barbra Streisand and more.Plus some classical and big band music like Glenn Miller 3 album set in almost mint condition. in the collection too.No Stevie , FM or Elvis in this batch.I'm surprise that he did not take the Beatles and the Glenn Miller 3 album set.

Also there was some press test records plus a couple of high school marching band albums from the 1960's.

[iamnotafraid]

Skip you're one lucky guy. The only time anyone gives me vinyl
is at Christmas.

I wish someone would make a decent quality 45 rpm record player
like they did in the 50's and 60's. If I knew how to work on them I'd
have one now. I think they're pretty cool.

[Macfanforever]

Well I hope Santa gives you what you wanted on vinyl on Christmas day.
The Glenn Miller album might be heading over my friend Joe's house .He's 97 years young and he should hear it.If I get to 97 .I would love to hear some Stevie and FM.

I have those little toy record players here .I dont like the looks and the quality on those new ones in the stores.

[iamnotafraid]

Well I hope Santa gives you what you wanted on vinyl on Christmas day.
The Glenn Miller album might be heading over my friend Joe's house .He's 97 years young and he should hear it.If I get to 97 .I would love to hear some Stevie and FM.

I have those little toy record players here .I dont like the looks and the quality on those new ones in the stores.

The only two Santa knows about this year are:

Son House The Legendary Father Of The Folk Blues (Analog Productions 200g.)

and

Melody Gardot My One And Only Thrill

I'm not talking about the "toy" record players. RCA and other companies
made them. The ones that only play 45's. They were kind of expensive for
their day. I don't think I'm explaining them very well.

Can you fix any old record player?

My best to Joe. Hope he enjoys the record.

[becca]

Picked up a new vinyl collection from the Guerssen label of unreleased '60s recordings by the Peanut Butter Conspiracy's Alan Brackett. I guess I'm into under-appreciated L.A. singer/songwriters lately.

[iamnotafraid]

Becca,

You always give me something to look up.

[iamnotafraid]

The only two Santa knows about this year are:

Son House The Legendary Father Of The Folk Blues (Analog Productions 200g.)

and

Melody Gardot My One And Only Thrill



Got these^ and they were great!!!

Now two more have arrived...

Diana Krall - All For You

And

Diana Krall - When I Look In Your Eyes

They have been cleaned and are awaiting a serious listening session.
And that starts now.

[iamnotafraid]

Jack White Boarding House Reach
You ask is this the regular version? Of course not.
This is Vault all the way. From the colored vinyl,
pictures and what nots. It's a nice set. Hope to get a
listen to it soon.

I say soon because I have several titles that have yet
to be listened to. Like...

Melody Gardot Live In Europe (3 LP set)
Fleetwood Mac Tango In The Night

So much great music, so little time.

[iamnotafraid]

Jack White Boarding House Reach


Uh-oh...this might be the first Jack White record I
don't like. I'll have to give it another couple of listens.
I hope I change my mind.

[iamnotafraid]

...

I hope I change my mind.

It's starting to grow on me.

I'm not a big fan of the EVH guitar he's using.
But I guess I can't blame him for trying something
new.

[iamnotafraid]

A few more new ones...

Elvis Presley - The Searcher

Soundtrack to the upcoming HBO Documentary
which premiers this coming Saturday Night.
I have all the songs many times over. But
wanted to hear them with this new remastering
job.

The songs are great and so is some of the
remastering on choice songs. But I think
Sony Legacy could have used a better
pressing plant as the vinyl's quality itself
is relatively poor.

I'd suggest buying the Deluxe CD Set.

St. Vincent - MASSEDUCTION

Something new for me. I really didn't know
anything about her until researching her new
signature guitar. Her videos are interesting so
I gave her new album a try.

While I don't care for some of the language she
uses. Some of it was enjoyable on a first listen.
Time will tell how much is grows on me or not.

The vinyl is pink and with my copy there was
included a pretty cool poster with lyrics.

[iamnotafraid]

Fleetwood Mac - Alternative Mirage (RSD 2017)

Fleetwood Mac - Tango In The Night Alternative (RSD 2018)

Arrived but not listened to yet.

[iamnotafraid]

That old vinyl bug has bitten me yet again.

One of the titles that showed up today...

Elvis - From Elvis In Memphis

Absolutely one of his best, but one problem...
broken in pieces. How dare the USPS!

Guess I'll live. As I still have a mint MFSL edition.

[iamnotafraid]

I've come to the conclusion that a simple black velvet brush
(Tetra-Teknica RB-02) and a drop of Dawn dish washing soap,
can clean a record as good as almost anything.

After cleaning, place the record on a clean towel. Then turn
over the record and repeat. If needed a clean washcloth can
be used to dab (no buffing, it's not a car) the water drops up.
Wiping the record in circular motions with a dry cloth will leave
you with STATIC. Trust me I know.

This may be my biggest vinyl month ever.

[iamnotafraid]

Just hours to decide about Third Man's Vault release.
What shall I do?

[iamnotafraid]

Just hours to decide about Third Man's Vault release.
What shall I do?

I had to do it. Tis mine.

[iamnotafraid]

Two more must haves (pre-orders)...

Elvis - Where No One Stands Alone

Diana Krall, Tony Bennett - Love Is Here To Stay

Look forward to both.

[iamnotafraid]

An album that looks mint doesn't necessarily
play that way. Words of wisdom.

It's funny when you finally get a decent record
player you are then able to hear the shocking
differences in pressings. Even the same record
from side to side.

[iamnotafraid]

July's Haul...

Elvis - Today

Elvis - From Memphis To Vegas

Elvis - How Great Thou Art

Elvis - As Recorded At Madison Square Garden

Elvis - Sings The Wonderful World Of Christmas

Elvis - Separate Ways

Elvis - That's The Way It Is (German Pressing)

Elvis - Good Times

Elvis - Fool

Elvis - That's The Way It Is (orange label rigid)

Elvis - The Memphis Record

Elvis - Christmas Album (1970)

Elvis - Promised Land

Elvis - Burning Love And Hits From His Movies (my first album)

Elvis - On Stage

Linda Ronstadt - Get Closer

Linda Ronstadt - Hasten Down The Wind

Linda Ronstadt - Greatest Hits Volume 1

Linda Ronstadt - Greatest Hits Volume 2

Linda Ronstadt - Different Drum

Linda Ronstadt - Hand Sown

Linda Ronstadt - Mad Love

Linda Ronstadt - Silk Purse

Carly Simon - Have You Seen Me Lately

Crystal Gayle - Classic Crystal

The Platters - Encore Of Golden Hits

Oak Ridge Boys - Y'all Come Back Saloon

Oak Ridge Boys - Fancy Free

Oak Ride Boys - Have Arrived

Oak Ridge Boys - Room Service

Fleetwood Mac - Tusk Promo Sampler (6 Track)


^ All this and two Elvis LP's that came in broken.

Lots of records, lots of cleaning!

[iamnotafraid]

Just thought I'd share something that's pretty cool.
Nearly forty one years after his death, Elvis has the
number 2 album on Amazon's top 100 chart.

[iamnotafraid]

Fleetwood Mac - Tango In The Night (box set)

Finally got around to a serious listening session
with the real FM. The vinyl sounds very good.
And I'd forgotten how good this album is.

Plus a good helping of Ronstadt.

[iamnotafraid]

The Stone Poneys

Evergreen Vol. 2

Stoney End

For Sentimental Reasons


Almost done with Miss Linda.
Love that voice.

[iamnotafraid]

Diana Krall, Tony Bennett - Love Is Here To Stay

I know Mr. Bennett is a legend but in my opinion
he nearly ruins this record. That great voice isn't
so great anymore. It's a hard listen.