Urgent To Any One In Orlando Please

[olive]

please share on social media I know it is off topic have some Compassion 50 killed 53 plus in hospital

HELP: To any straight people in Orlando reading this, authorities are asking for blood donations to help the victims of last night's terror attack. Gay people are still banned from donating blood WE NEED YOUR HELP! Please go to your nearest blood bank and donate for us!

[Macfanforever]

Oh my god .Prayers go out for the victims and their families and the survivors.

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http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/orlando-nightclub-massacre/orlando-nightclub-shooting-emergency-services-respond-reports-gunman-n590446



Orlando Nightclub Massacre
Jun 12 2016, 10:49 am ET
Orlando Nightclub Shooting: Mass Casualties After Gunman Opens Fire in Gay Club

by Matthew Grimson and David Wyllie
[Rep. Alan Grayson: This Might Be a Hate Crime]
Rep. Alan Grayson: This Might Be a Hate Crime 4:02

At least 50 people are dead and more than 50 others are wounded after a gunman opened fire and took hostages at a gay nightclub in Orlando, Florida, early Sunday morning, police said.

Officials said a hostage situation developed after the gunman stormed the Pulse Nightclub about 2 a.m.

The shooter was identified by several law enforcement sources as Omar Mateen.

He was shot dead about three hours later when a SWAT team entered the club, police said.

The law enforcement sources told NBC News that Mateen was born in New York in 1986 and was listed as living at a residence in Port St. Lucie, about 125 miles south of Orlando.

The incident is being investigated as an act of terrorism, officials said.

Mir Seddique, Mateen's father told NBC News, "this has nothing to do with religion." Seddique said his son got angry when he saw two men kissing in Miami a couple of months ago and thinks that may be related to the shooting.

"We are saying we are apologizing for the whole incident. We weren't aware of any action he is taking. We are in shock like the whole country," Seddique said.

Meanwhile, a man who answered the phone at Mateen's address, Mustafa Abasin, told NBC News: "We are in shock and we are said." He would not say how he knew Mateen, but said he was helping investigators.
Image:
Orlando Police officers direct family members away from a multiple shooting at Pulse nightclub. Phelan M. Ebenhack / AP

"We are looking at probably in the range of 20 [dead], but we don't want to give you an exact figure," Orlando Police Chief John Mina said during a news conference. He said 42 people had been hospitalized.

Mina said a uniformed officer working extra duty exchanged gunfire with the shooter, who was armed with an assault-type rifle, a handgun and some type of suspicious device.

"The officer engaged in a gun battle with that suspect. The suspect at some point went back inside the club and more shots were fired. This did turn into a hostage situation," Mina said.
[Clint Van Zandt Discusses Orlando Nightclub Shooting]
Clint Van Zandt Discusses Orlando Nightclub Shooting 4:54

Officials made the decision "to go in on a rescue" just after 5 a.m. Mina said, adding that an officer was injured after being shot in the head.

"It appears his helmet saved his life," he said. "So he has an injury to his eye, but it looks like the bullet did hit his helmet."

Orange County Sheriff Jerry Demings said the incident "could definitely be classified as domestic terrorism."

However, Florida Department of Law Enforcement Special Agent in Charge Danny Banks said authorities were also investigating whether international terror was involved, and if the shooter was a lone wolf.

PHOTOS: Orlando Nightclub Massacre

Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives investigators arrived on the scene of the shooting at about 9:30 a.m. Sunday morning.

Florida Gov. Rick Scott was also on his way to Orlando Sunday morning. "Our thoughts and prayers are with the victims, families and all those affected by this horrific tragedy. We are a strong and resilient state and we will devote every resource available to assist with the shooting in Orlando," Scott said in a statement.

President Barack Obama was briefed on the shooting by Assistant to the President for Homeland Security and Counterterrorism and requested regular updates, according to a statement from the White House.
[Orlando club shooting witness: 'It's like you're at a gun range']
Orlando club shooting witness: 'It's like you're at a gun range' 2:13

Police had previously reported on Twitter that there was a "controlled explosion" at the scene of the shooting. Mina later clarified that the noise was caused by a device intended to distract the shooter.

Revelers described scenes of horror inside the club. One witness told MSNBC that they had to crawl over bodies to escape.

A post to the club's Facebook page at around 2 a.m. warned "everyone get out of Pulse and keep running." Witness video from outside showed dozens of first responders at the scene, and several victims on the ground.

"It was tragic," club-goer Christopher Hansen said. "I wasn't sure if it was the music, because ... it went with the beat almost until you heard just too many shots."

"It was just like — bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang — and that's when you just know chaos is just, it was in turmoil," he added.
[Expert: Orlando club shooting might be domestic terrorism]
Expert: Orlando club shooting might be domestic terrorism 5:21

Mina Justice was outside the club trying to contact her 30-year-old son Eddie, who texted her when the shooting happened and asked her to call police. He told her he ran into a bathroom with other club patrons to hide. He then texted her: "He's coming."

"The next text said: 'He has us, and he's in here with us,'" she told The Associated Press. "That was the last conversation."

Witness Anthony Torres posted to Facebook that he and his friends made it out of the club "just barely as we started to hear fire being shot."

"They are just pulling people out in stretchers loading them up," he said, referring to first responders. "Omg please god let everyone make it."
Image: shooting at Pulse Nightclub in Orlando
Emergency services respond to the shooting. "UNIVISION FLORIDA CENTRAL / HAN" / EPA

"People are screaming that people are dead," Torres wrote in another post.

The shooting at the nightclub comes during a series of national celebrations that mark LGBT pride month.

"As soon as we have any information we will update everyone," the club later posted to Facebook. "Please keep everyone in your prayers as we work through this tragic event. Thank you for your thoughts and love."

This is a breaking news story. Please check back for updates.
Matthew Grimson
David Wyllie
Contributors Laura Saravia, The Associated Press and Pete Williams
Topics U.S. news
First Published Jun 12 2016, 4:10 am ET
Next Story Florida Nightclub Massacre Is Deadliest Mass Shooting in U.S. History
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Orlando Nightclub Massacre
Jun 12 2016, 10:38 am ET
Florida Nightclub Massacre Is Deadliest Mass Shooting in U.S. History

by Hasani Gittens and Helen Kwong
[Orlando club shooting witness: 'It's like you're at a gun range']
Orlando club shooting witness: 'It's like you're at a gun range' 2:13

With at least dozens of people reported killed and wounded, the massacre early Sunday morning at an Orlando nightclub now becomes the deadliest mass shooting in the history of the United States — by nearly double the previous most deadly incident.

Here are America's deadliest mass shootings:
50 killed

At least 50 people are killed and some 50 others are wounded after a gunman opened fire and took hostages at a gay nightclub in Orlando, Florida, early on the morning of Sunday June 12. Officials said a hostage situation developed after the gunman, identified as Omar Mateen, stormed the Pulse Nightclub about 2 a.m.
Image: At Least 20 Dead In Mass Shooting At Orlando Gay Nightclub
Orlando police officers gather outside of the Pulse Nightclub after a fatal shooting and hostage situation on June 12, 2016. Gerardo Mora / Getty Images
32 killed

On April 16, 2007, 23-year-old Virginia Tech student Seung-Hui Cho shot 32 people to death on the Blacksburg, Virginia, campus before killing himself. The dead included 27 students and five faculty members. Another 17 people were injured. Days after the shooting, the worst school shooting in the nation's history, NBC News received a package from Cho that contained a video of him ranting about rich "brats" and complaining about being bullied.
Image: Students visit a makeshift memorial
Students visit a makeshift memorial set up on the campus of Virginia Tech for the students and faculty that lost their lives in the deadliest mass shooting in U.S. history on April 18, 2007 in Blacksburg, Va. Evan Vucci / AP File
27 killed

On Dec. 14, 2012, 20-year-old Adam Lanza killed 28 people, including himself, his mother, 20 elementary school kids and six school staff and faculty at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut. Lanza suffered from extreme mental health issues that weren't treated, and was preoccupied with violence, a report from state officials found. He also had easy access to weapons, the report said.
23 killed

On Oct. 16, 1991, A 35-year-old named George Hennard crashed his pickup through Luby's Cafeteria, a packed restaurant in Killeen, Texas. He shot and killed 23 people before shooting and killing himself. Twenty-seven others were wounded. The Texas massacre is the deadliest shooting to not happen at a school in U.S. history. According to a former roommate, Hennard "hated blacks, Hispanics, gays. He said women were snakes."
21 killed

On July 18, 1984, James Huberty, a 41-year-old former security guard who had lost his job, opened fire at a McDonald's in San Ysidro, California, killing 21 employees and customers, including children. A police sniper killed him an hour after he started shooting.

Related: Mass Killings Inspire Copycats, Study Finds
18 killed

On Aug. 1, 1966, former U.S. Marine Charles Joseph Whitman, 25, killed his mother and wife, then went on top of a tower at University of Texas at Austin and killed 16 others. He also wounded at least 30. Whitman had complained of physical and mental health issues before the attack. He was then shot by a police officer. An autopsy after his death revealed he had a brain tumor, but it was not clear whether that had affected his actions.
[Police: Shooters came in with a 'purpose']
Police: Shooters came in with a 'purpose' 1:45
14 killed

On Dec. 2, 2015, 14 people were reported dead and an estimated 14 hurt in an attack at the Inland Regional Center in San Bernardino, California, a state-run facility that provides services to people with developmentally disabled people and trains social workers who care for them. The killers remained on the run Wednesday afternoon.
14 killed

On Aug. 20, 1986, postman Patrick Henry Sherill killed 14 postal workers in Edmond, Oklahoma, and then killed himself with a shot to the head. The rampage came a week after two supervisors reprimanded him for lousy performance.
13 killed

On April 20, 1999, students Eric Harris, 18, and Dylan Klebold, 17, killed 12 other students and a teacher at Columbine High School in Littleton, Colorado. Two dozen were injured. They then killed themselves in the school's library. In journal entries, the high school seniors had written about a desire to imitate events such as the Oklahoma City bombing.
13 killed

On Nov. 5, 2009, Mad. Nidal Malik Hasan, 39, killed 13 people and injured 32 others at Fort Hood, Texas. The massacre prompted the Army to come up with a list of 78 recommendations for Fort Hood to identify the potential for violent behavior among its soldiers. Hasan has been sentenced to death.
13 killed

On April 3, 2009, in Binghamton, New York, 41-year-old Jiverly Wong, an immigrant, killed 13 people and injured four others at an immigrant services center before killing himself. President Obama called the shootings "an act of senseless violence."
13 killed

On Feb. 18, 1983, three robbers at the Wah Mee gambling club in Seattle killed 13 people. Kwan Fai Mak and Benjamin Ng were convicted of murder later that year and are serving life sentences; Wai-Chu Ng was deported to Hong Kong last year.
12 killed

On July 20, 2012, 24-year-old James Holmes sprayed bullets on a midnight screening of the new Batman movie at a theater in Aurora, Colorado. In addition to the 12 killed, 58 were wounded. Defense attorneys tried unsuccessfully to argue that he was insane at the time of the attack; he was sentenced to life in prison in August.
12 killed

On Sept. 16, 2013, a 34-year-old named Aaron Alexis opened fire inside the Washington Navy Yard, killing 12. The former Navy reservist died in a gun battle with police.
Image: Soldiers hold a candle light vigil
Soldiers hold a candle light vigil at Fort Hood, Texas, Friday, Nov. 6, 2009. A day after authorities say Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan shot and killed 13 people. LM Otero / AP File
Hasani Gittens
Helen Kwong
Contributors Elizabeth Chuck and Jon Schuppe
Topics U.S. news
First Published Jun 12 2016, 10:38 am ET
Next Story 'Absolute Devastation' Among Orlando's LGBTQ Community
NBC OUT
Orlando Nightclub Massacre
Jun 12 2016, 10:56 am ET
'Absolute Devastation' Among Orlando's LGBTQ Community

by Brooke Sopelsa
[Watch Live: Updates on Orlando Nightclub Shooting]
Watch Live: Updates on Orlando Nightclub Shooting

Orlando's gay community is in "utter shock" and after a mass shooting at a gay nightclub early Sunday morning, a local LGBTQ leader said.

Approximately 50 people are dead and 53 wounded after a gunman opened fire and took hostages at Pulse Nightclub in Orlando, Florida.

Rob Domenico, a board member of The Center Orlando, an LGBTQ advocacy and support center in the city, said "absolute devastation" is being felt across Orlando's LGBTQ community.

"Fear of the unknown is more overwhelming to us than anything, not knowing who of our loved ones is potentially laying on the floor dead," he said.

Related: Mass Casualties After Gunman Opens Fire in Gay Club

The shooter was identified by several law enforcement sources as Omar Mateen. His father Mir Seddique told NBC News that his son got angry when he saw two men kissing in Miami a couple of months ago. He thinks that may be related to the shooting.

"We are saying we are apologizing for the whole incident. We weren't aware of any action he is taking. We are in shock like the whole country," Seddique said.

[olive]

it's horrible that this happens here or anywhere in the world

[The Highwayman]

I haven't the words. My thoughts are with the victims and their families. I can't believe this, this is...

It is said that this could be a hate crime. Just when I think we have come far in this country with understanding, something comes along like this. Senseless.

[olive]

this happened too the other day fortunately no one was hurt

Chicago woman held on $250K bail in explosion in Evanston Target bathroom

http://www.chicagotribune.com/suburbs/evanston/crime/ct-evr-evanston-target-bathroom-explosion-tl-0616-20160611-story.html

[olive]

the original post is from that a tweet from Brian K. Sims\Democratic member of the Pennsylvania House of Representatives


and policy currently is


the new policy says that any man who wants to give blood can only do so if he hasn’t had sex with another man in the past year. In other words, sexually active gay men who are married or in a monogamous relationship will still be prohibited from donating.

[welcomechris]

Hillary wants to ban the guns - Trump wants to ban muslim inflow... What is the better choice?

And by the way, it was a muslim who did this and I stand 100% with mr. trump


RIP

[welcomechris]

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[Macfanforever]

More likely the place was a gun free zone and the security and bouncers cant have any guns .I do agree with Mr Trump on letting them carry guns and they could go after and shoot the guy that cause this tragic event..It would been less deaths or none if the security and bouncers or a customer had weapons .Nevermind securing the borders.

[KarmaContestant]

welcomechris - so what if Hillary opposed gay marriage at one time? Have you *never* changed your mind before? Have you never grown, learned, evolved? Do you still have the same opinions you did 12 years ago, about *everything*? If so, you might want to get out more and see the world - meet different kinds of people - broaden your horizons.

This isn't about Muslims. That guy was an American citizen, and his religious *freedom* is no lesser than your own. This *is* about easy, unfettered, unmonitored access to military grade assault weapons in this country by anyone with a chip on their shoulder.

No one wants to "ban the guns" as you falsely state. And who the flip cares if you stand with Trump? Have some damn respect and stop making the gruesome death of 50 innocent people about your political beliefs, because this isn't the place for it.

[olive]

welcomechris - so what if Hillary opposed gay marriage at one time? Have you *never* changed your mind before? Have you never grown, learned, evolved? Do you still have the same opinions you did 12 years ago, about *everything*? If so, you might want to get out more and see the world - meet different kinds of people - broaden your horizons.

This isn't about Muslims. That guy was an American citizen, and his religious *freedom* is no lesser than your own. This *is* about easy, unfettered, unmonitored access to military grade assault weapons in this country by anyone with a chip on their shoulder.

No one wants to "ban the guns" as you falsely state. And who the flip cares if you stand with Trump? Have some damn respect and stop making the gruesome death of 50 innocent people about your political beliefs, because this isn't the place for it.

thank you :xoxo:

[The Highwayman]

welcomechris - so what if Hillary opposed gay marriage at one time? Have you *never* changed your mind before? Have you never grown, learned, evolved? Do you still have the same opinions you did 12 years ago, about *everything*? If so, you might want to get out more and see the world - meet different kinds of people - broaden your horizons.

This isn't about Muslims. That guy was an American citizen, and his religious *freedom* is no lesser than your own. This *is* about easy, unfettered, unmonitored access to military grade assault weapons in this country by anyone with a chip on their shoulder.

No one wants to "ban the guns" as you falsely state. And who the flip cares if you stand with Trump? Have some damn respect and stop making the gruesome death of 50 innocent people about your political beliefs, because this isn't the place for it.

I want to hug this post. Is there an emoji for that?

[~*BellaDonna*~]

welcomechris - so what if Hillary opposed gay marriage at one time? Have you *never* changed your mind before? Have you never grown, learned, evolved? Do you still have the same opinions you did 12 years ago, about *everything*? If so, you might want to get out more and see the world - meet different kinds of people - broaden your horizons.

This isn't about Muslims. That guy was an American citizen, and his religious *freedom* is no lesser than your own. This *is* about easy, unfettered, unmonitored access to military grade assault weapons in this country by anyone with a chip on their shoulder.

No one wants to "ban the guns" as you falsely state. And who the flip cares if you stand with Trump? Have some damn respect and stop making the gruesome death of 50 innocent people about your political beliefs, because this isn't the place for it.
Thank you, thank you, thank you!!!

[Danielle]

welcomechris - so what if Hillary opposed gay marriage at one time? Have you *never* changed your mind before? Have you never grown, learned, evolved? Do you still have the same opinions you did 12 years ago, about *everything*? If so, you might want to get out more and see the world - meet different kinds of people - broaden your horizons.

This isn't about Muslims. That guy was an American citizen, and his religious *freedom* is no lesser than your own. This *is* about easy, unfettered, unmonitored access to military grade assault weapons in this country by anyone with a chip on their shoulder.

No one wants to "ban the guns" as you falsely state. And who the flip cares if you stand with Trump? Have some damn respect and stop making the gruesome death of 50 innocent people about your political beliefs, because this isn't the place for it.

I couldn't agree more.

[~*BellaDonna*~]

welcomechris - so what if Hillary opposed gay marriage at one time? Have you *never* changed your mind before? Have you never grown, learned, evolved? Do you still have the same opinions you did 12 years ago, about *everything*? If so, you might want to get out more and see the world - meet different kinds of people - broaden your horizons.

This isn't about Muslims. That guy was an American citizen, and his religious *freedom* is no lesser than your own. This *is* about easy, unfettered, unmonitored access to military grade assault weapons in this country by anyone with a chip on their shoulder.

No one wants to "ban the guns" as you falsely state. And who the flip cares if you stand with Trump? Have some damn respect and stop making the gruesome death of 50 innocent people about your political beliefs, because this isn't the place for it.
You deserve this!!!!

[Macfanforever]

Yes lets keep this thread for the prayers for the victims and the survivors .I know its hard but We dont need the political views here.I apologize for the earlier statement.

[FuzzyPlum]

A terrible trajedy-my thoughts are with all those involved. Lets hope the death toll doesn't rise over the coming days.

[Macfanforever]

I have to find out if my friend Ted is OK .He lives in Orlando and I hope that he stayed home last night..

[WatchChain]

Dear Politicians:

Those of you who use anti-gay rhetoric to rally your base, raise money & build your power, you have the blood of LGBT people on your hands today! Shame on you: Ted Cruz, Texas Lt. Governor Dan Patrick, Rick Santorum, Michele Bachmann, Mike Huckabee, Rick Perry, Sarah Palin, and countless others for using anti-gay rhetoric to further your political career.

[Macfanforever]

I have to find out if my friend Ted is OK .He lives in Orlando and I hope that he stayed home last night..

I just got a call from my friend which Teddy knows and said Teddy is home safe as he called his son this morning.
The shocker from the call was that Teddy lives right down the road from the place where the shootings took place.Also he said he's been in that place in the past.

What a relief that he is OK.

[welcomechris]

welcomechris - so what if Hillary opposed gay marriage at one time? Have you *never* changed your mind before? Have you never grown, learned, evolved? Do you still have the same opinions you did 12 years ago, about *everything*? If so, you might want to get out more and see the world - meet different kinds of people - broaden your horizons.

This isn't about Muslims. That guy was an American citizen, and his religious *freedom* is no lesser than your own. This *is* about easy, unfettered, unmonitored access to military grade assault weapons in this country by anyone with a chip on their shoulder.

No one wants to "ban the guns" as you falsely state. And who the flip cares if you stand with Trump? Have some damn respect and stop making the gruesome death of 50 innocent people about your political beliefs, because this isn't the place for it.

Let's start with you trying to be smart, and then misspelling a word.

Second, Hillary flip flops on EVERYTHING. that's not even debatable

He was muslim and pledged allegiance to ISIS. What Jews/Christians do that? Exactly.

Third, Hillary wants to ban guns. She's said multiple things to make you believe that... GO LOOK IT UP YOURSELF!

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[welcomechris]

Dear Politicians:

Those of you who use anti-gay rhetoric to rally your base, raise money & build your power, you have the blood of LGBT people on your hands today! Shame on you: Ted Cruz, Texas Lt. Governor Dan Patrick, Rick Santorum, Michele Bachmann, Mike Huckabee, Rick Perry, Sarah Palin, and countless others for using anti-gay rhetoric to further your political career.

I am very upset by anti LGBT politicians . It's none of their business to get into the way people love.

Donald trump has never said anything anti-gay, which a pro for me.

[SisterNightroad]

I think this particular assault was about homosexual hate. It was a single man, an American citizen, and it picked on a gay local in a relatively unimportant town.
I think turning this in an occasion to bash on politicians when we have other four, and I say FOUR threads, about that it's really unsensitive guys.

Skip, I'm relieved for your friend too. When France was attacked for a little while it was said that the terrorists could have been in Torino in North Italy, and my bestfriend studies there so I was really worried, I even told her not to go out. Thankfully that was not the case.

[welcomechris]

I think this particular assault was about homosexual hate. It was a single man, an American citizen, and it picked on a gay local in a relatively unimportant town.
I think turning this in an occasion to bash on politicians when we have other four, and I say FOUR threads, is really unsensitive guys.

Skip, I'm relieved for your friend too. When France was attacked for a little while it was said that the terrorists could have been in Torino in North Italy, and my bestfriend studies there so I was really worried, I even told her not to go out. Thankfully that was not the case.

Senator Bill Nelson (D/FL): "I asked the FBI if there was any connection to Islamic radicalism, there appears to be"

And he pledged allegiance to ISIS....

It's radical Islamic terrorism.....

[SisterNightroad]

Senator Bill Nelson (D/FL): "I asked the FBI if there was any connection to Islamic radicalism, there appears to be"

And he pledged allegiance to ISIS....

It's radical Islamic terrorism.....
True, the night news just said that too. They also said he was in the list of possible jihad sympathizers since 2013. And apparently a few months ago he manifested aggressivity towards a couple of men kissing.

[becca]

I think if someone wants to make a mark with insane violence they will use anything to justify or excuse it, not just a religion. Mainly I would say this was anti-LGBTQ, and second anti-U.S.A. There are hate stokers against both targets; how can they be kept to a further periphery while still allowing for important freedom of speech? I heard there were radical recruiting videos still on Youtube! Are the people behind websites not members of nations?

Well, Reagan urged fellow politicians to work toward a ban on military style assault weapons from the streets. Then they let the Brady Bill which stemmed from an attack on Reagan to lapse. It amazes me how basic common sense checks and regulations are not in place, I think deliberate confusion and fear-mongering have come before teaching gun safety for a long time much to the benefit of only an arms making industry. An offensive device for defensive purposes would more of an extreme last resort you might think but in the U.S. in some parts has become a go to plan somehow. It's just a tool, it is made to serve one purpose, but an almost religion seems to have been made out of it by the unbalanced. There should never be a question though of people losing access to necessary protection or stigmatizing a rural rifle owner. Americans choose freedom yet live in fear often. It's pretty complicated but that Sandy Hook thing was as horrible as this without any religion angle and I can't see an end in sight for my friends and neighbors. There are always going to be people who offer easy answers but I read somewhere that the simple solutions are usually the most transient.

[iamnotafraid]

Third, Hillary wants to ban guns. She's said multiple things to make you believe that...

Does anyone believe gun control is going to change a terrorist
point of view? If you do that's absolutely insane.

They can make bombs, what laws are you going to make about that?
Then can stab you with knives, what laws are you going to make about that?
They can run you over with cars, so on and so forth. Outlaw everything?

Are you going to put some controls over people who want to defend themselves
so they can't? And do you really believe laws are going to prevent anyone from
killing if they so desire?

If you are gay you should be less concerned with Christians and our beliefs.
You may not agree with Christian beliefs, but Christians aren't the ones who
are going to or want to kill you. It's that other religion that no Democrat can
seem to name all of us Americans should be concerned with.

That gunman pledged allegiance to ISIS. Or by another name
RADICAL ISLAM.

How many more attacks before we do something about it?

[BombaySapphire3]

This is a horrific combination of a hate crime and an ISIS inspired terrorist attack..I just feel sick.

[welcomechris]

Does anyone believe gun control is going to change a terrorist
point of view? If you do that absolutely insane.

They can make bombs, what laws are you going to make about that?
Then can stab you with knives, what laws are you going to make about that?
They can run you over with cars, so on and so forth. Outlaw everything?

Are you going to put some controls over people who want to defend themselves
so they can't? And do you really believe laws are going to prevent anyone from
killing if they so desire?

If you are gay you should be less concerned with Christians and our beliefs.
You may not agree with Christian beliefs, but Christians aren't the ones who
are going to or want to kill you. It's that other religion that no Democrat can
seem to name all of us Americans should be concerned with.

That gunman pledged allegiance to ISIS. Or by another name
RADICAL ISLAM.

How many more attacks before we do something about it?


Not sure if you understood me clearly, but I agree with you!

[iamnotafraid]

Not sure if you understood me clearly, but I agree with you!

I understood.

I just used your quote because it named Hillary.
She and our President are going to try to make
this a political argument against guns instead of
blaming the problem that they have let happen
under their watch.

[Macfanforever]

James Corden just did a heartfelt open on the Tony's tonight about Orlando .That was so nice .

[elle]

‏@TimODee16
How about a temporary ban on AR-15's, just "until we find out what the hell is going on"?
693 retweets 967 likes

@TimODee16
How about a temporary ban on white men driving to LA from Indiana "until we find out what the hell is going on"?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/06/12/the-gun-used-in-the-orlando-shooting-is-becoming-mass-shooters-weapon-of-choice/

[iamnotafraid]

That gunman pledged allegiance to ISIS. Or by another name
RADICAL ISLAM.

I'm listening to CNN letting the family of the shooter
blame it on mental illness. My oh my.

Wake up America!

[olive]

ISIS wins!

TONYS "Hamilton" drops muskets from awards show performance

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/tonys-hamilton-drops-muskets-from-awards-show-performance/

[welcomechris]

I understood.

I just used your quote because it named Hillary.
She and our President are going to try to make
this a political argument against guns instead of
blaming the problem that they have let happen
under their watch.

Yes! Exactly! Finally someone on this board with political common sense

[Macfanforever]

ISIS wins!

TONYS "Hamilton" drops muskets from awards show performance

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/tonys-hamilton-drops-muskets-from-awards-show-performance/

I see that was going to happen.

[Macfanforever]

Heres James Corden's Orlando tribute opening of the 70th Tony awards.

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[markolas]

When did this place become freeper central? Ugh.

[elle]

When did this place become freeper central? Ugh.

i know right? :distress:

[olive]

When did this place become freeper central? Ugh.

the interwebs is infested with them and this obviouslyis not immune to it

[KarmaContestant]

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[KarmaContestant]

I think this short video is a powerful reminder than nearly every human being on Earth is a multiplicity of different ethnicities and backgrounds.

Before we point fingers at another culture or religion or nationality or race, casting blame about who is better, who is worse, who is extremist, who comes from the better culture - it's important that we all know who *we* are.

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[KarmaContestant]

And lastly, the only thing I have left to say about what happened in Orlando, shared here from my own Facebook page. I won't be back in this thread to argue with people who refuse to look in the mirror.

I want to take a moment to say something that has been on my mind all day. That shooter in Orlando? His religion doesn't matter. It isn't relevant. He was an American citizen, like you and I, and he had the same religious freedom as the rest of us. The fact remains that anyone with a chip on their shoulder and the money to spend can obtain military grade assault weapons and take their grudges out where ever they please.

This country has a serious problem with hate and intolerance and bigotry. The daughter of our president is called a nigger all over the web and people openly wish for her to be raped at college. There is a sickness pervading our society, and while there are many root causes, every time we single someone out for race, faith, gender, sexuality, or ethnicity we spread that sickness. Making it worse is unfettered access to weapons of war, so everyone who feels victimized can take their pain out on others.

Our government - the real powers that be in Congress - send out their worthless prayers and wishes when instead they could be *doing* something about our gun problem. They could be *doing* something about our health care problem, including mental health care. They could be *doing* something about the economic disparities that plague our county, and they could be *doing* something about the joke that passes for education in this country. They could be *doing* something about the inequality in this country that feeds hatred and resentment. Instead, they do nothing but pander for votes by turning ignorant people against their neighbors and countrymen, and they squander our wealth on wars abroad creating enemies that hate us for our hate. Terrorism has nothing to do with faith - it has everything to do with revenge.

I believe that what you do, what you give, how you love - it all comes back to you. What has America done to deserve these senseless acts of violence directed at people from all walks of life? Look around - watch the news - hell, look at Facebook, and it's clear to see that we are merely getting in return exactly what we, collectively as a nation have put out into the world. Hate begets hate. Be the person you want others to be. Change starts in the mirror.

[becca]

RE: "the problem that they have let happen under their watch"

Contrary to what Mr. Trump seems to want people to think, the parents of this U.S. born angry blamer who got a military style assault weapon legally came in under President Reagan, not Obama. It was at a time when the U.S. was supplying weapons to the Taliban and Bin Laden. The invasion of Iraq after the WTC and Pentagon attacks was a similar bit of reaction-ism based on misdirected outrage and half-truth telling, please learn.

[iamnotafraid]

RE: "the problem that they have let happen under their watch"...


You can argue about us going to war.
You can argue about gun control laws.

What you can't argue about is that under this administration
things have gotten worse. We paid in blood for territories that
were given back. The sames places where these terrorists are
now waging a war against us.

Let's stay current. If our leaders can't call it for what it is,
you know that elephant in the room - how in the world does
anyone think that they're going to do something about it?
And I do mean to the terrorists, not law abiding citizens.

[MoonSister75]

And lastly, the only thing I have left to say about what happened in Orlando, shared here from my own Facebook page. I won't be back in this thread to argue with people who refuse to look in the mirror.

I agree very much with the sentiments that you posted on your Facebook page. I just wish more people would wake up to the reality of the situation, and I wish is would happen quickly...

[Macfanforever]

You can argue about us going to war.
You can argue about gun control laws.

What you can't argue about is that under this administration
things have gotten worse. We paid in blood for territories that
were given back. The sames places where these terrorists are
now waging a war against us.

Let's stay current. If our leaders can't call it for what it is,
you know that elephant in the room - how in the world does
anyone think that they're going to do something about it?
And I do mean to the terrorists, not law abiding citizens.

I agree....................................................

[SisterNightroad]

The wife of the man who committed the mass-shooting in Orlando has said that he was secretly homosexual.

[Macfanforever]

The wife of the man who committed the mass-shooting in Orlando has said that he was secretly homosexual.

I just heard that on the radio news.And they say she knew what was going on.
It sounds like team work like the tragedy in San Bernardino Cali .

[welcomechris]

I want to hug this post. Is there an emoji for that?

Isn't it funny that I was right? Not only was he muslim, but he pledged to ISIS. Now, liberals are trying to put a ban on weapons.

[iamnotafraid]

I agree....................................................

Cool......

[iamnotafraid]

Not only was he muslim, but he pledged to ISIS. Now, liberals are trying to put a ban on weapons.

Now ISIS has taken away American Citizen's rights
to own firearms.

Isn't that strange that's the way it's headed?

[welcomechris]

Now ISIS has taken away American Citizen's rights
to own firearms.

Isn't that strange that's the way it's headed?

Exactly! You're 100% right.

[olive]

Now ISIS has taken away American Citizen's rights
to own firearms.

Isn't that strange that's the way it's headed?

Have you considered a bunker/bomb shelter for when they take over on Obama's last day ?

[Macfanforever]

As I said before.Ordinary Joe or Jane does not need semi automatic guns like the SIG Sauer MCX , Glock 17 used in Orlando or a AK47 and any other type of machine guns which I do agree with the Pres on that with the ban on them.On the other hand people should not loose their rights owning their regular shot guns as long they get a mental health check when buying one.The problem today is nobody gets checked and some do show flags when checked and get ignored and get away with it like this A Hole that murdered these people and injured others.

[olive]

Now ISIS has taken away American Citizen's rights
to own firearms.

Isn't that strange that's the way it's headed?

If you can't buy you could win Conservative Christian Tennessee lawmaker is giving away two assault rifles at hog Fest onhttp://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_575f0d84e4b071ec19eec3a7e

[iamnotafraid]

Exactly! You're 100% right.

Thank you my friend.

[iamnotafraid]

Have you considered a bunker/bomb shelter for when they take over on Obama's last day ?

Who said they're waiting for his last day?

They seem to be doing well now.

____________________________

This isn't directed at you Olive...

But I think politicizing this event is outrageous.

_________________________________

One day there will be peace. But it will not be brought
about by man.

[olive]

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I think politicizing this event is outrageous.

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I 'm not surprised that it was or am I that this tread was

[BlueDenimLamp]

Now ISIS has taken away American Citizen's rights
to own firearms.

Isn't that strange that's the way it's headed?

You can believe what Obama tells you...You can believe in Hillary's promises...You can continue to keep your head in the sand when it comes the potential looming threat of radical Islam coming to America...But know this...If you ignore the threat of radical Islam / Isis one day you may find yourself a minority living in a Muslim country...

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[olive]

http://www.city-data.com/forum/attachments/elections/14922d1203442021-obama-illegals-share-same-message-n522306244_197290_3718.jpg

[Macfan4life]

Now ISIS has taken away American Citizen's rights
to own firearms.

Isn't that strange that's the way it's headed?
For someone not afraid you surely are acting afraid :eek:
Terrorists can never scare me. I don't give into fear and I definitely AM NOT AFRAID.
I have not seen anyone even remotely talk about taking guns away from anyone.
You cant board a plane with a bottle of mouthwash. But you can be a known terrorist on watch lists and go buy military assault weapons.

You cant make this stuff up. If someone is mentally ill, should they be allowed to buy guns? Or is it denying mentally ill people their constitutional rights?

No one is more conservative than me. I am a police officer with multiple guns. But there is common sense. A bottle of mouthwash is not going to kill anyone on a plane. But if government is tasked with protecting it's citizens against enemies foreign and domestic then common sense should be considered.
Our country has a wonderful thing in the 2nd amendment. It allows citizens to protect their life and property and carry guns. You also can hunt. The creator of the AR-15 created it for war and military. Its not for hunting or needed to defend your house. Its design is to kill as many people on the battlefield as quickly as possible.
Now ask yourself. Do you want terrorists to legally purchase these guns? Do you want mentally ill people to buy these guns. There is a 3 day waiting period for firearm purchases. But there is gun show loop holes and online loop holes. The mentally deranged Colorado movie theater shooter bought his assault rifle through this loop hole.
I think its reasonable to close these loop holes without violating anyone's constitutional rights.
Why stop at assault rifles. Why not let citizens to carry other weapons of war? A grenade launcher can kill equal numbers of people.
Your average patrol police officer does not have access to nor carries an assault rifle. However, he or she responds to shootings with assault rifles. There is no match. Engaging someone with a hand gun against a rifle is like bringing a knife to a gun fight. Look at the amount of police officers killed and mowed down by assault rifles over the past several years.
There is seriously something wrong with a government that forbids its law abiding citizens to carry shampoo or mouthwash on a plane but allows terrorists to buy weapons of war legally.

[olive]

You can believe what Obama tells you...You can believe in Hillary's promises...You can continue to keep your head in the sand when it comes the potential looming threat of radical Islam coming to America...But know this...If you ignore the threat of radical Islam / Isis one day you may find yourself a minority living in a Muslim country...

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Have you considered an underground bunker/bomb shelter for when they take over on Obama's last day ?

[olive]

You can believe what Obama tells you...You can believe in Hillary's promises...You can continue to keep your head in the sand when it comes the potential looming threat of radical Islam coming to America...But know this...If you ignore the threat of radical Islam / Isis one day you may find yourself a minority living in a Muslim country...

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OBAMA ORDERS GUILLOTINES TO BE USED FOR EXECUTIONS
http://thenewsclub.info/obama-orders-guillotines-to-be-used-for-executions

[iamnotafraid]

1. For someone not afraid you surely are acting afraid :eek:


2. Terrorists can never scare me.


3. I definitely AM NOT AFRAID.


4. I have not seen anyone even remotely talk about taking guns away from anyone.



1. I am not afraid. Only because I know Who is in control.

2. I'm kind of doubting that one.

3. No, iamnotafraid.

4. The problem with gun control is so easy to explain.

Truth is truth no matter what side of the argument you fall on.
And this is truth. If we give in to common sense it won't end there.
Gun control and taxes are much the same. If you give, they'll
take more and more - and more. Ever heard of a temporary tax?

I don't own those type of weapons you are talking about.
And I don't hunt, unless you're talking varmints. But I do
have guns for that and the protection of my family and self.

I could go on. But we are to avoid foolish and ignorant disputes.
Knowing that they generate strife.

[SisterNightroad]

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[becca]

I think the way Canada has handled the AR-15 is good, it's not impossible to get but there are regulations concerning it. It was used as a hunting rifle apparently in the past but was considered a fairly poor choice but still functional as one. If the same basic weapon was made to look plainer and with wood accents I bet it would be less scary, but the fact that it was advertised with some slogan about 'renewing your man card' sort of shows that it looking so 'serious firepower' means as much as the actual quality of it. Oh well. The fanatics are the most motivated and there are extreme people on both sides while most find themselves in the middle and shouted down.

I try to be a (lower c) Christian but I feel all the praying and angel stuff really doesn't fit with this thing that's happened in Orlando. If it means something to the people directly effected that's different but it mostly makes me think about these guardian angels not being there for some. Maybe Oprah or whoever would say those people must have chosen to be sacrifices or something in some weird predestination belief system and drawing positive or negative things to yourself, and I've heard that said even about Jewish holocaust victims... not for me. I do know there is a lot we don't know but invisible angels saving some and not others is just strange to me. Prayers after a tragedy need some more explanation, but it seems to be an almost universal reaction from many to simply say 'pray' , maybe it makes them feel less helpless or expresses sadness to them?